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>>719549718Is that grey code meme an official disney thing or just some rando's fanfiction?
grey = mary sue oc shittherefore that one
>GreyThe what now? You already have dark jedi for that
>>719549860Fanfic created by an inability to cope that the Force is, in fact, binary.
>>719549967shut up chud. The force is female. And trans. And nonbinary. And you can be a jedi even as a paralyzed wheelchair bound cripple. Only straight white males cant be jedi because theyre inherently evil, unlike niggers who steal and murder all the time everywhere, theyre good people
>>719549881Dark side is too selfish and evil but light side is also too male coded and authoritarian with all the monastic order stuff and restrictions placed on jedi, it makes sense for there to be a common sense neutral path that is more accessible to individuals with their own unique outlook and lifestyle
>>719550149If someone told me that's canon I'd believe it.Some wookieepedia articles are ridiculous.Picrel is canonically an unironic virgin incel who got rejected by bitches.
>>719549718Gayest verse
>>719550149Even if it's ironic, it's still shiposting retardo.
>>719550683I recall reading wookieepedia articles back in the pre-disney days and while they were a bit goofy sometimes these new disney era ones seem way worse
>>719549860Gray force users have been a thing since at least the 90s in extended universe fanfiction to describe dudes using the force as a means to an end without being a comical asshole sith.That "Gray Code" shit is just pseudointellectual nonsense that seemed to get more popular after KOTOR.
>>719549718Both the Sith and Jedi are "wrong" in their own way. That has literally been the overarching theme of Star Wars
This entire shit comes from utilitarian rather than spiritual approach to a concept such as the Force, as if it's a slider in a videogame where you can put points in edgelord or points in Sunday morning school. It's genuinely fucking stupid.
George Lucas unironically believes that the prequel Jedi are in the right even though the movies themselves suggest otherwise
>no no see, I'm superior to heroin addicts AND people who are totally clean because I only take a little bit of heroin every once in a while, I'm so le heckin balanced and grey guysLucas himself said the "light side" of the Force IS balance, and that the dark side is an abomination of nature.
>>719549718>Edgelors and mad scientists>OC Donut Steele>Corrupt cops and retards
>>719551070source?
kill every force user
>>719551158I read it on /tv/ a while back
>>719549881Grey is basically just a guy with a lightsaber and a few questions
oh boy can't wait to see the same exact posts as always with that OP
>>719551112Prequel Jedi really sucked at balance.
sw is so fucking lame holy shit
>>719549718The neutral code is just the DnD druid code and it's just as retarded. Keeping balance between good and evil will have both unanimously agree to get rid of you for being a wishy washy ally who is guaranteed to betray you at the worst possible time.
>>719551657Sheev was using the dark side to cloud their vision, it wasn't entirely their fault
>>719549967>>719549860It's like warhammer fantasy where dudes want to play horny big plate chaos warrior but without corruption, mutations and being attacked in any town on sightdue to how Force is describbed, it's impossible to be a middle "grey" faggot, aka getting all the benefits without downsides. At most, you can balance on the edge, but you cannot sit a tthe middle constantlyboth light and dark side of the force heavily influence your actions and how you see things, so you cannot use it like a tool or means to an end
>>719549718That Grey code is pretty dumb.>There is no dark side, nor a light side, there is only the forceThey are aspects of the force that have been recognized in-universe by both Jedi, Sith and institutionally unrelated third parties for millennia.>I will do what I must to keep the balanceWhat balance, please provide a definition. Also why do you "must" do something to keep it? Under who's orders are you operating on?>There is no good without evilPseud nonsense that has nothing to do with the force.>but evil must not be allowed to flourishSee above, also why not? Also define evil.>recycling and reshuffling stuff from the other codesSpeaks for itself.
>>719550683Tbf he looked and acted like an incel
The force is just Daoism. Yoda's speech to Luke is describing Wu-Wei. Jedi virtue is De.Everything is underwater so there's no such thing as a "neutral action" that isn't displacing water so there's no such thing as a grey Jedi. True master flows effortlessly through water as if he is not underwater at all. Sith retards are toddlers who forgot how to swim and keep smacking the water and splashing it around. Jedi council faggots who lost their way think sitting in place and ignoring the waterfall on their heads is wisdom. Jar Jar Binks can breathe underwater so he easily solos Revan and the entire extended universe.
>>719549860Boredom leads to apathy. Apathy leads to laziness. Laziness leads to the Grey side. Once you start down the Grey side it will dominate your destiny.>Have you heard the tragedy of Grarth Flabulous the Dull? Some say he had the power to open a bag of cheetoes with his mind. He eventually drowned in them. How ironic.
>>719550271>common sense neutral pathSo dumb.>The jedi tell me that cancer is bad>the sith say that cancer is good>time to take a common sense middle path>cancer is good in moderation
>>719549718Old republic light side sith and dark side jedi are both more interesting than attempting these in the high republic, movie canon, or sequel trilogy and beyond timelines.
>>719549718There's no jedi bullshitOnly the EPSTEIN FILES
>>719553804who are you quoting
Kreia was right
>>719549881Aren't most Dark Jedi on average far worse than the average Sith?
>>719551038This. I read a fan theory somewhere that George Lucas never actually conceived of the "light side" of the force because it is never mentioned in any of his Star Wars materials. There's only the Force and the Dark Side. The idea is that the Force is like a healthy body, while the Dark Side grows on it like an infection. Then the Force vs. Dark Side becomes a conflict between a state of healthiness against a state of sickness. If a "grey" character is supposed to be half-light and half-dark, then that as meaningless as a half-healthy and half-sick person. Which is to say you can either be healthy or sick, but there is no meaning or benefit to being somewhere in between.
>>719554001Yoda
>>719549718The grey nonsense was invented because some of the spin off writers and fans didn't understand the force the way George intended.
>there is no good without evilGayest shit I have ever seen put to words.
>>719554181it a mixed bag. Also they've had sith that are arguably better than the jedi
>>719554185This >>719553460Also this
>balance between good and evil>turns thermostat to 15C
>>719554330There is this old game from the 90s that parodied this. This one race's backstory was that they were so good that they looped back around to being evil and became the most evil race in the galaxy. Another good race, witnessing this, decided to always be a little evil so this never happens to them. They will therefore constantly spout out petty insults at you while otherwise being good-aligned.
>>719549860its just a fanfic meme that's been the scourge of discussion and roleplay communities for decades
>>719549718Grey Jedi means "i dont want to be some gay ass monk, i want to love and have sex with my waifu and shoot force lighting and choke a fucker but im like not evil, ok?"
>>719549718The problem with being a Grey Jedi is that it's incredibly risky trying to balance both the Light and Dark sides of the force when the Dark Side is the inherently more corrupting side. If you were to compare this to politics, it would sort of be more like being right/left leaning than actually being true neutral.
>>719549860grey code is fanfic but grey jedi are a thing
>>719550271The force is literally female though.
>>719555004disneywars fanfic is not canon
>>719550271>it makes sense for there to be a common sense neutral path that is more accessible to individuals with their own unique outlook and lifestyleI can tell your favorite nu wars character is ASSoka.
>>719549718>Light side is purposefully killing your own emotions at all times and only acting to prevent violent conflict and end the lives of those engaging in violent conflict>light side is also the side of moral greater good and justice>light side is also the state of the dark side not existing, and the force not being abused to oppress others.>the dark side is the state of morally evil actions, and corrupts people to go beyond in any violent action they take>the dark side is the use of the force for personal gains in power>the dark side is also the state of being in tune with your emotions and at the mercy of your whims, though the dominant ideology prefers to reenforce anger as a means to power you can technically be strong in the dark side through passionate love and lust>a sith using the light side tends to try to make the world a better place but still relies on emotional power>a dark side jedi is willing to commit atrocities to uphold the greater good>grey jedi do not hold back their emotions and so are always on the edge of having one outburst go wrong and committing evilAll these descriptions are contradictory.
>>719555135Didn't the old expanded universe books have like literal force gods in the galaxy and they were actually female?
Dark Forces 2, you have>Only 1 jedi that dies in the intro>Rest are dark jedi, including Kyle>1 inquisitor aka Sith larperNo need for grey fanfiction or focusing only on Jedi/Sith conflict
There's no such thing as a grey jedi or dark jedi, it's a completely made up thing for snowflakes. Even if it's canon it's not canon.>i will do what i must to maintain balanceIt's just reddit with a lightsaber. Bad writing, Lucas should have shut that crap down immediately.
>>719555495because grey jedi is shit fanfictionit's literally just "I want the cool sith powers but without any of the downsides"if you watch the OT and don't understand that 'balance' means getting rid of the evil sith fuckers then you're a retard, but faggots who fail to understand Eastern mysticism have been spreading this "ackshually the good guys are out of balance too" horseshit for too long.
>>719555624If you mean pic related, the son, daughter and the father were all embodiement of the forceone of the greyfaggotry came from the father, balancing between daughter representing light side of the force and son repreenting dark side of the forcet's like christian god being in 3 persons as one entity
>>719555624That mortis shit was just stupid
>>719549718I don't get how the force works isn't the light and dark side of the force balanced?
Canon Grey Jedi just means “normal Jedi who doesn’t agree with the council or every aspect of the code” like Jolee Bindo or Qui-Gon Jinn.
>>719555495I'm just upset we don't have any yandere sith succubi running around brainwashing men to fall in love with them.All we get is the pretty boy sith that are trying to be the perfect "I can fix him(he'll abuse the shit out of me)" archetypes for the female audience.
>>719556157There's a theological split both in and out of universe in regards to that but in general dark side is corrupted Force rather than it being a Yin-Yang situation
>>719556157Could be wrong but I recall its something like this:Light side is the force in balance ie the force in its healthy and natural state. Dark side is the force when its not in balance and is perverted into something evil and unnatural.
>>719556157Replace word 'force' with 'magic', and 'light and dark side' with 'magic and dark magic'
>>719554927Ain't Cal Kestis a grey jedi at this point ? He openly use both light and dark side and also said "There is only the Force"
>>719549860Grey code is pure fan fiction. Grey force users are also fanfic thing but there are in between characters in various canons, especially since it's "running the asylum" situation where creators are fans who tried to add their headcanon (even when Acolyte tried to do it). Grey Jedi exist but they are not some neutral things but Jedi who are against Jedi Order dogma/mainstream, like they are outside Order or they are still in Order but critical or contrarian toward Council
>>719549860It's just an excuse for inconsistent characters and bad writing. "Sometimes he's good but uhh... sometimes he's bad and that's just so deep and meaningful".
>>719549718As long as you use the force responsibly you're in the light side. This grey side shit is cope for evil people who do bad things while claiming they're in the right.In that "Acoshite" disney series, the main girl strangles her master with the force and the show wants you to believe that was the right thing to do. That's the kind of people pushing the "grey side" narrative
>>719556157>the light and dark side of the forceThis in itself is a bit of a misinterpretation because there really is no "light side", nobody in the OT and I'm fairly certain the PT ever uses that phrase. It's a term that's invented by fans and other media to distinguish what Jedi do from what Sith do, as well as have mechanics like morality meters in games. It gives off an impression of a yin yang type of 'balance' between dark and light, which is incorrect. The Force is an energy field generated by life. All living things are connected to it, and can tap into it to varying degrees. The 'dark side' is the use of the force while clouded by emotion, subverting and distorting nature for selfish purposes. It's not a contest between light and dark energy, it's a battle between the natural order and a perversion of it. "Balance" refers to ending the perversion and putting things back to normal, which is how the film series ends. This is why gray jedi and other fanfic that involves creating some 'need' for the dark side to exist is pure faggotry. It's pure evil.
>>719549718Why not just portray as a mid side guy as mc, taking side is gay since only middle jedi doesn't get traitores in his team since he is playing for both sides. Lucas should be doing this from the begining. The middle code is mc.
>>719557261The grey side doesn't do space genocide and blow up planets, he is like Jedi that knows how it will end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiImoO5QkcA
>>719550683Didn't luke no way fag some force god-woman? I think that's an EU thing
>>719549860>official disney thing >some rando's fanfictionsame shit kek
>>719556913Cal is a light force user veering to the dark side, he'll probably be shooting lightning by the time we get to the third game
>>719557461Sith can like repent became a good jedi again. Grey side is skipping that part.
>>719558571>Sith can like repentAs a general rule, no. And that's the central problem with gray jedi, they make Anakin's fall and redemption meaningless. Luke resisting the dark side and redeeming Vader is something that even Obi-Wan and Yoda didn't think possible. If you introduce characters that can use the dark side and either pull themselves back or avoid falling altogether, it completely trivializes the central story of the films, and no amount of "but my OC is built different!" can save it.
>>719556913don't know, I'm not into that disney crap
I never bought into this Grey Jedi nonsense, but characters like Jolee Bindo and Asajj Ventress prove that Force users who are no longer associated with their respective orders can still carve a path for themselves in the SW setting
>>719550953I thought Gray Jedi were supposed to be Jedi who believe in the basic principles of the Jedi but don't want to follow the dumbass dogma.
>>719549718Faceless soldier in cool armour
