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Oh boo fucking hoo nigga
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you already made this thread, nigga.
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Dude was just at PAX west telling people.
>come talk to me if you see me
Wtf happened in 1 day.
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>>719556732
People came and talked to him
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>>719555891
You see, if a sequel doesn't get made because the first game is shit, that means that the first game was good actually, the reason for this is because the person who made the game heard some feedback, which makes it impossible to make new games.
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>>719556197
Yoshida is not your friend
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>>719556732
He forgot Amerigolems aren't people and have no manners.
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HE
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>>719555891
YoSHITPiss is my most hated video game developer in Japan. He picked a fight with Final Fantasy boomer fans and turn based RPG fans. He can rot in hell that little faggot for his attitude towards turn based RPGs and his rockstar personality. Fuck you YoShitPiss I'm holding that grudge. FF16 biggest load of action slop in ages, take that Westernized soulless non-RPG pandering sellout shit to yor grave and choke on it.
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>>719557576
Even sakaguchi farted on turn based games anon, it doesn't help you dont buy all their other turn based games
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>>719557665
Go play rollslop #4590,443045,04535 from Fromsoftware, drone.
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>>719557576
Lmao I'm old enough to remember ff7fags vs ff8fags vs ff9fags vs ffxfags
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>>719557576
He was still right, honestly. I know people loved to tout E33 as a big FUCK YOU, TURN BASED CAN SELL, but it only sold a couple million. xvi sold something like 5 million back then and SE considers it a failure.
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>>719557749
Ok poser, did you even buy Fantasian?
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>>719555891
He shouldn't have said that.
There are people that actually want him to fail, and they'll do it even more if they notice that it's working.
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HEY, YOSHI, no one told you to higher the fucking Troon VA, no one told you to do the retarded South America Expansion when you clearly wanted to actually do the FF9 Allegory expansion and you just mashed them together and made both of them shit.

no one told you to put your D-list Writer in charge of your Post-Endwalker Expansion, making a giant dive in writing quality very obvious.
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>>719555891
He's right, tho. Mind you, he's not saying: "Please don't say you don't like my gamu :(" like you faggots pretend he does. What this is clearly about is sending shit like "This shit fucking sucks" or "Please never make a video game again" directly to developers, or worse. The fucking unconstructive dunking, the just complaining.
You can still say: "man, this game is absolute fucking ass" just don't @ the developer on it.
>Hurr durr grow a thicker skin
It's one thing to shrug it off if some faggot on 4chan calls you a retard for your retard take, it's quite another when you have a public platform you need to use and you have hundreds, if not thousands of people tell you that your shit sucks every day. There's no skin thick enough. Imagine getting spat on by a stranger every single time you leave the house. How long would you be able to just wipe it off and say: "it's just spit"?
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>>719557576
No one hates turn based games more than turnbasedfags themselves kek, as much trash ff14 is he had a point there, no shit he is trying to go after nuGOW and Souls sales
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>>719555891
He took the huge amount of money made during WoW shadowlands, and made FF16 instead of putting it into 14.

Don't know how 14 trannies managed to convince everyone this guy was based for telling people to play other games if 14 was getting boring, as if that's anything but admitting his game sucks.
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>>719557525
HAS
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>>719557861
Twitter posts are not the same thing as a guy physically spitting on you get a grip
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>>719557861
These days bitter millennials are too old for long games and have more fun harassing developers, this is why is better not to interact with internet, it's a lost cause
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>>719555891
Perhaps they shouldn't serve literal shit on a silver plate then if they don't want to get shit-talked.
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>>719557893
FF16 is fine, its a decent story and presentation and looks good its just the combat is boring.

its w/e, shame it cost so fucking much to make because it wasn't worth that fucking budget but nothing about it is awful.

FF14 however, is woefully underfunded considering its revenue and playerbase.
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>>719557821
maybe they shouldnt spend money to put a shitty cosplay sword in london tower, denuvo also launch alongside ragnarok and keep doing ramen engines
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>>719557893
im impressed he wasnt flayed in his office for shilling nintendo switch zelda in an oficial livestream
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>>719557273
He should make better games if he doesn't want people to criticise him. People spend money on this, and they are allowed to express their displeasure on the things they spend money on.

You know why I don't get shit for making video games? Because I don't make video games lol.
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>>719555891
I worked at Square Enix and he treats staff like shit, regardless of their seniority level, so he can shut the fuck up. He acts like a fucking king, this is even worse during working trips abroad where he had a department senior manager running PERSONAL errands for him. Fuck you yoshitpee.
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FF fags are the only people enthusiastic about killing your own beloved series. The rest of the board doesn't care.
You can post as much Tifa porn as you want, people won't care.
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>Nooooo not my hecking mare gooner plugins how am I supposed to enjoy final fantasy 14 if I can't mod out every part of the game into a second life abomination
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>>719557984
its a dogshit story the moment cid dies and resurrect joshua
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>>719558101
I thought you said FF died 20 years ago yet every jrpg gets compared to FF
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He used to look smug on every pic of him but now it is like he is about to cry all the time
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>>719555891
We are sick and tired of your ass Yoshi

You don't hear this shit from Kitase and Hamaguchi
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>>719557861
Or just stop making shit games and people won't call you out for being bad at your job
It's just that easy
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>>719558096
>We reached a point where people unironically fantasizes about working at SE
Damn
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>>719557984
combat is just special ability spam on rotation, kind of like how God of War 2018/rag is. The story was try hard game of thrones-esque that was told through literally 35 hours of cutscenes, my actual gameplay was 30-35. No dialogue between characters like in God of War, terrible ARR tier quests for side content... The game is literally a wading pool in terms of depth.
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>>719557934
It was an example of something you could probably get over if it happened once, but would send you into a murderous rage if it was a daily occurance, not a 1 to 1 comparison, saying that these are inherently equivalent in severity.
Semi related. Fuck nigger, why does nobody on the internet understand these? I was taught this in school, and how it's important to understand that examples like this serve to illustrate a point, not to make a direct comparison. Do they not teach this shit any more? Because every time I use something like this on the internet some faggot jumps up telling me how that's not the same. No shit it isn't.
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>>719556213
spbp
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>>719555891
Does this type of whining happen in other industries, too? Like music, or something?
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>>719557861
REEEEE STOP TELLING DEVELOPERS THE GAME SUCKS!!!!!

Fuck you.
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>>719558274
If you are a public-facing figure, you have to deal with the public. Don't like it? Get a different job.
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>>719558247
they re bussy fucking up ff7 universe
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>>719558253
Nobody makes a shit game or shit movie or shit book or shit song on purpose. Everyone who creates something sets out to create it the best way they can, and then real life happens. Shit turns out differently than anticipated.

>>719558335
You can still tell developers that their game fucking sucks you double nigger, you just have to do it in a constructive way instead of chimping out you fucking gorilla.
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>>719555891
He just needs to make a good expansion and people will think he's Jesus again. He can do that, right?
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>>719558256
How am I supposed to prove that without doxing myself? I can post a redacted copy of a P60 at best. But even that you'd complain and say it's forged.
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>>719558257
god of war bothered to have elements works besides being vfx
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>>719558408
Intentions don't matter, results do. You don't get a participation award for selling me shit even if you thought it was gold.
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>>719558321
I assume in movie industry, especially when it comes to entitled fags... We've seen stuff like
>woke movie isn't made for you chud
>aieeee why didn't you chud support the movie
>it's not our fault it flopped
I don't see something like this not happening in the movie industry
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>>719558408
waahhhhhhh stop being mean to Yoshi!

Yoshida has had every single opportunity in the last 10 years of his career to do something, anything that proves he's not a company man who will say and do anything for money.

Dude is not a creative, he has no ideas, he has no vision. FFXIV is trash, FFXVI is even worse. He needs to get out of the chair and go away.
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>>719558418
nope
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I think japanese boomers just don't understand western autism. Just organize and email japanese devs about pozzing without sounding autistic
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>>719557821
>but it only sold a couple million. xvi sold something like 5 million back
It sold more than XVI lmao.
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No criticism is non constructive. Even vitriol should be able to teach you about something you did.
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Yoshit-Piss...
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Why won't he fix his shitty game, then? People have complained and told him what needs reworking countless times yet he won't do shit except cry on twitter. FIX YOUR FUCKING NETCODE EVEN WORLO GOT THIS RIGHT 20 YEARS AGO
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>>719558401
And like true chads, they aren't pissing and crying because someone online is talking shit to them or their games

They are actual game developers who know what taking a risk looks like
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>>719558512
And yet you probably spent hundreds of hours playing 14
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>>719557821
>E33 sold a couple millions made bank
>XIV sold a couple millions, barely break even
You see the problem now?
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>>719558546
Online japs are infinitely more deranged than any westoid, when he talks about mean people, he's talking about 2ch schizos who wants to KyoAni them not some twitterfag.
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>>719558604
Lmfao fuck no, MMO's are cancer.
You're homosexual. Real FF fans are done with Yoshida. Dawntrail was the last straw.
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>>719558321
Yes, because people are dumb, especially people who are mad.

>I hate this woke movie/character
>better go bother the actor who just did their job
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>>719558631
Not multiplatform day one though
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>>719558631
Maybe square enix should poach some good french writers
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>>719558681
E33 is just western Star Ocean 3, they already wrote that one themselves
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>>719558656
>Real FF fans
You mean the ones constantly fighting between themselves ever since ff7?
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>>719555891
This dude always crying lmao
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>>719558681
Since jrpgs is peak contrarianism they would just shit on the new game for being called Final Fantasy
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>>719555891
We are done with Yoshida. The faggots, trannies and furries have completely taken over his games fandom and there is no way out. The MMO needs to burn.
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>>719558581
PS4 limitations, he said it himself
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>>719555891
No, they aren't.
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>>719558789
>Noooo don't call my games JRPGs its racist
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>>719558889
Nips have a trauma since western journos used to shit on jrpgs all the time during PS2 and PS3 era
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Silly Nickname man has the biggest victim complex. He gets felicitated by a sicophantic playerbase and as soon as people rightfully criticize his declining in quality game, he shifts into "Nohhh noohhhh don't be mean," just like the rest of Square-Enix. Maybe he should work on improving his video game that charges a monthly fee instead of going to conventions and trying to be a celebrity.
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>jrpg fags mad they have grandpa level response time
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>>719558889
>memoryholed the entire era of gaming where western devs and journos got super uppity
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>>719558730
>FFVII, FFVIII, FFX and FFXIII all the same team
>Sakaguchi deliberately forced other games into production that go against his main teams vision so he can keep FF in the past
>sees Everquest, wants to copy it because he doesn't have new ideas
Maybe if Suck a Gooch wasn't obsessed with fracturing his own series and making a shitty ass movie 20 years ago and almost tanking the franchise we wouldn't be in this mess today.

All Yoshida has to do is make a good game to get people to trust him. But that's impossible. So he has to go. Pretty simple.
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>>719557861
trvke
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>>719559082
Hell funny how Capcom can't win awards despite RE being fucking popular kek
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Oh no not my pozzed games. Bitch, I WANT you to stop making games and that's not me being edgy.
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>>719558401
FF7's universe always sucked.

its such a fucking strange clash of settings and tropes that never quite clicked with any sort of critical thought.

for instance, Midgar, big ass city right? BIG ass Industrial City like a mix of Detroit+deisel punk.
fine, works alright.. till you realize its essentially a world anamoly, what was used to build this city? what resources? what construction? did they just "construct additional Pylons" and summon the city on the spot?

why does it have potential Highways to nowhere that weren't ever finished? why is the rest of the world like 2 tiers of civilization lower than Midgar? how can you have such a dense city and just absolutely fuck all outside it or adjacant to it?

in a realistic take on it, there would be multiple City-states like Midgar, sorta like the Cities of America, all connected by various methods so that they could build up these cities, over time, as they would have all started as small ventures.. you don't just have one Grand Megalopolis and nothing else, nothing could BUILD the Megalopolis
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He's been doing this pity woe is me garbage since he failed miserably with FF16. We had 14 put on alt so that they could "work on 16" and now that it's done we realize that it was all a bunch of bullshit excuses to just be retarded lazy fucks like they have always been.
You literally cannot say anything to this guy and it amazes me how he is the only one here in the west that gets a free pass for the shit that he says while we got live service games going bankrupt and being controversial for way less.

>Hey man...listen i really like the game and all but could you maybe pick up on that update cycle a little bit? Im paying 15 dollars a month for what is basically owning virtual housing and there are other things going on my life that need attention, also other games are simply grabbing my attention a little more lately so...could you guys maybe work a little bit on the updates to justify my monthly spending?

>GAH...I CANT BELIEVE YOU WOULD BE SO RUDE...HOLY FUCKING SHIT, DO YOU WANT ME TO STOP MAKING GAMES ENTIRELY??? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT???....THIS NEGATIVITY IS GETTING TO ME...HOW DARE YOU....I SAVED FF14! DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE TALKING TO?

At this point i genuinely just hope he fucking quits.
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>>719559110
It's called SaGa and Dragon Quest
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>>719559031
His nickname was given to him by homosexuals who think he's a gangster/rockstar.

Look at his hands. Every single finger has a ring on it. He has no style, he has no sense of shame. Yoshi-P is literally a rap name, his fans treat him like he's some dancing nigger.

It's fucking pathetic, really. MMO fans are the most embarrassing group of gamers. Not only do they play a shit game, but they pay money every single month for it. They even pay money on top so they can dress up their bunny girl in dresses and ERP as a woman.

IE not Final Fantasy.
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>>719557821
fucking retard
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>>719559191
If he quits people would just go full autistic against the new director, I still remember all the autism against Nomura and even Sakaguchi
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>>719555891
>and as a result gamers could miss out on that next great game
Is the current great game in the room with us right now?
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>>719559189
terminal contrarianism. there is no saving you. never post again.
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>>719555891
Just make a new mmo
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>>719556213
>CHADler the BASEDreator
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>>719559330
It's funny because look at Bioware today. Not laughing anymore are they
Veilguard is 10x worse than FFXIII, which is a masterpiece in comparison
FFXIII led them to FFVII Remake which is a success, FFXIII trilogy sold nearly 20 million
Bioware games led them to Anthem and Veilguard
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>>719559381
why would they? its expensive as fuck
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16 proved cb3 is a bunch of hacks
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>>719559363
when you fail to attack what I say and just attack me, it means your fucking retarded.
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This nigga should be fucking THANKFUL for having the passive sissy bitch playerbase that his game has because from where i come from if the shit that's happening in here happened there i guarantee you it would go way beyond than just some mean comments.
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>>719559191
I don't think square can be saved at this point, mostly cause it was intentionally killed.
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>>719557861
>What this is clearly about is sending shit like "This shit fucking sucks" or "Please never make a video game again" directly to developers, or worse.
That's exactly what they faggot devs need to hear, every day for the rest of their life.
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>>719555891
As a leader within a company he holds more responsibility to maintain a vision for the game. It's not the devs who should feel that criticism is on their shoulders it's whoever is making the broad decisions leading to devs wasting their time on content nobody wants or asks for. A leader must act as a great filter so that the devs are at least making improvements and ideally making progress on new releases that can sustain interest which also provides resources for continued development. All of the leaders of any development studio should be performing dogeza at my feet when they waste decades of collective dev years on worthless content. Kate should yeet herself off a building
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Unpopular opinion but honestly I think jrpgs are just dying
>Zooms not alpha care
>Gacha eating most of their public
I think a turn based ff game would sell 8 millions at most, that said they really should remove open world and go for mapamundi again, but I still think a lot of ips are losing sales lately, millennials are also too old for these games and they are constantly disappointed that these games for kids/teenagers are not as good as they headcanon
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>>719558889
Meanwhile Kamiya had to come out of the woodwork to tell people to be proud about the "J"
Yoshi-P is severely lacking the samurai spirit, and the current state of the games under him show
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Yoshi even said "if you have criticism for Dawntrail bring it to me, I am the one approving this material"

So I guess people need to attack Yoshida even more so that he can understand that he made a mistake
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>>719555891
>"Mods"
>makes twirling hand motion
>"Make him Speak to Wuk Lamat".
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>>719559687
That's just Kamiya being opportunist, he still abandoned the team
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>>719557861
He should learn to just ignore it. He ain't the only person this shit happens to. Hell take a note out of Kamiya's book and block everyone.
Whining like a baby about his feefees being hurt is only encouraging the behavior, and as expected of a modern FF dev, he's too retarded to even realize that before he hits post.
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>>719557861
Internet sucks too much these days
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>>719557861
You're a faggot. You love men. You defend a homo game filled with homos and trannies. You actively want shitty games to be praised because you think the producer is your boyfriend.
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>>719555891
Can you not use that word? Thanks.
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>>719557861
yes, please stop making games you're bad at it
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>>719555891
>gamers could miss out on the next great game
From the dude that has only produced an MMO and a DMC ripoff? I don't think we're missing out.
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>>719560027
>You defend a homo game filled with homos and trannies.
Every online game is full of trannies now, it doesn't mean devs should stop making them, besides stop advertising trannies so much
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>>719556732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEZsGUqgtHQ
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>>719555891
The reasons put forth in that tweet don't explain bad games tho.
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>>719559680
Persona 5 sold extremely well relative to its budget. Person want 3 or 4 niggahs in a row taking their turns, they don't want action RPGs. Even for wrpgs the biggest modern hit BG3 was turn based.
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>>719560125
Yeah, you mean like casting one as the main character, and then publicly shaming everyone who has a problem with it?

Yoshida is a disgusting and insidious company man.
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>>719560304
Anon p3r sold less than P5, and when persona 5 was a thing gachas were way most popular, at most you had FGO. We don't know if P6 would do as well in the middle of all these gachas and with geriatric zoomers
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>>719560304
What modern "RPG" players want are dating sim games, that's all. If you removed combat from Persona and from BG entirely they would sell just as much, maybe even more.
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>>719560323
That's just a japanese boomer saying what consulting companies tell him to say.
Just email developers with reality with actual well put explanation
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>>719560323
the Trans thing could have been somewhat overlooked if they did a good performance and didn't spend all their time on social media being a degen troon.

but no, its one of the worst VA works in the biz, by far, like put me in the role of Wuk Lamat and it would have been better and I'm a 39 year old man.
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>>719559526
maybe say something that isn't retarded next time
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The same threads, again and again.
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>>719560304
P5 is a VN dating sim anon and it's old enough, it still sold more than smtv thanks to being a dating sim.
>>719560358
Also this, this time single player jrpgs have it way harder
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>>719560473
The beatings will continue until the product improves
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>>719560358
P3R sold just fine as a mid budget asset flip though and is about to launch on Nintendo Switch 2. Don't you worry about Persona sales, they are making Atlus a lot of easy money. Atlus is making more money than they ever have right now.

>>719560428
You fucking Indian. Holy shit. Train. Now.

>>719560441
>the Trans thing could have been somewhat overlooked
You fucking faggots seriously need to suck down a dose of reality. Nobody likes trannies. Everyone has a problem with it based on the principle alone. Your excuses are disgusting.
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>>719560473
crtl c, ctrl /v/
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>>719560463
how is it retarded? Midgar makes zero fucking sense, the whole world makes no sense.

why would you need SUPER DUPER Planet Life-stream reactors to power ONE fucking city.

not just the ones in the city but all the ones elsewhere too like Nibelheim, all to power one City that isn't even doing anything major with all that fuckin power.

the whole premise begs the question "how, and why", how did they build all this tech that would take a world of Cities to build, and why does all this tech exist to power one moderate sized city.
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>>719560473
The same game producer making the same mistakes, again and again.
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>>719560574
I'm saying if the voice sounded good and we didn't fucking know, it could have been ignored, not that Trannies are good.

the voice work was awful, they were a degen Troon, ect ect, shit I already said.

you fucks are so allergic to any sort of potential hypothetical thought.
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>>719560574
P3r still sold less though, meaning it's risky to make a high budget jrpg
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>>719560473
Sorry troony, but people and culture itself is tired of all these. We just good games
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>>719556213
so cancel culture is not cyber bullying then? it's actually okay to lose your job due to some tweet or false accusation. just turn off the computer, it won't follow you IRL :)
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>>719560574
P3R is translated by a tranny who removed genre tropes though, meaning you supported a troon job
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>>719560692
What you're failing to recognize is the ROT at the core of the design overall.

They did not CREATE a character that people would like. They made something they KNEW would bother people. It's POORLY CONSTRUCTED. When are you going to understand that? 80% of the voice lines come from the tranny. Not only is it a tranny. Its a fucking Mary Sue furry.

Holy shit, XIV players are absolutely disgusting Yoshida suckers.
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>>719557896
NO
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>>719560692
Nta, but it is hard to believe those men could pull off a convincing performance. Biology doesn't lie and no matter how hard they try, the man behind the voice is heard and felt.
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>>719555891
just dont read twitter? is it that hard?
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>>719560726
>>719560798
And here come the pussy ass XIV players crying and pissing about Atlus to deflect from Yoshidas ass burn.
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>>719560802
I didn't excuse any of that, I said "if it was good there wouldn't be an issue"

I never said it was ever good, are you SERIOUSLY fucking retarded?

the way to make Wuk Lamat good would have been to make her a cute Genki Tomboy, but instead.. well we all know how it went.
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STYLE
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>>719560868
What? You complain about trannies but then you support a product translated by a tranny, make up your mind
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>>719560913
>could have been somewhat overlooked
> if the voice sounded good and we didn't fucking know, it could have been ignored
You are indeed excusing it. Fucking faggot XIV player.
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>>719561018
>>719560868
Reminder atlusfags defended fucking Rebirth when E33 made them seethe, you backstabbing faggots
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>>719560913
>>719560802
Samefag or do you both just write in the same faggot ass way?
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>>719561001
>WHATABOUTISM!!!!! HOW DARE YOU SAY WUK LAMAT SUCKKKSSSS!!!!!
Fucking loser. Show me the tranny that voices Mitsuru
Show me the tranny that voices the protagonist
Fucking sycophantic Yoshida fags, you will literally say and do anything to defend him.
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Unreal raids would save XIV
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Reminder XIV fags are extremely fucking sensitive faggots and troons who will literally say and do anything to defend Naoki Yoshida from criticism

They will bend over backwards and open up their assholes wide if it means Yoshida gets to cum.
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>>719557252
You're right, Yoshida is their boyfriend.
They actually think because they give him their money, that he cares about them.
Yoshida is their pimp.
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I liked XIV from ARR to SB. When they introduced just straight up modern real world shit I was done.

Now I can never go back, the world is ruined, because that crap will be there like a canker sore on the setting forever no matter what they do afterward.
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>>719557861
only sensible post in the thread but retards on this board still think somethingawful and kiwifarms are/were good and not terminal cancer run by socially maladjusted retards who only get joy out of making discussion venus online unusable dogshit
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>>719561170
it's on par with the orange man bad shit to do it every single day
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>>719561098
I don't give a shit about your boyfriend yoshida dude, I'm just saying shitting on trannies is okay but it's retarded to still support trannies from your favorite company
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>Yoshida puts an untalented tranny in the lead of the newest expansion
>XIV players defend him to death while the game burns
What can we learn from this?
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>>719561170
Eww don't tell me about your wet fantasies
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>>719561308
ARR-SB is great because it's building on the backbone of 1.0. Coerthas, Dravania, Garlemald, Othard, Gyr Abania, they're all places alluded to since the very beginning. At the start there was no mystery box, you knew where expansions were taking you. Now the story comes to a grinding halt at the end of every expansion so they can drag out what could be a 2 minute cutscene into multiple patches teasing.
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>>719560616
that's the entire point you fucking retard. shinra is gutting the entire planet for their own benefit
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>>719555891
Maybe he needs to make a great game first.
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>>719561341
>XIV faggies are now crying about Persona because they can only deflect
>a woman pretending to be a man voices a late game elementary school party member
How gross, a woman pretending to be a man. We've never, ever, ever seen that in anime before......haha.

It's too bad that female to male tranny isn't a main character, nor is it extremely distracting, like being forced to interact with the furry tranny 1,000 times.
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>>719561597
1.0 started off as an original world, and a sort of successor to Vana'diel with original history, nations, and aesthetic.

Yoshida was forced to stick with that for a while after he took over since it was all already set up and expected by the players, but what became more apparent even from 1.2 was that he just wanted to make some theme park "Memberberry Greatest Hits" game for the FF franchise (and anything else he was a fan of and could get a crossover for). He later admitted this bluntly.

The story got fucked because it's no longer a story about a coherent world with characters who live in it and are invested in its history and future, but instead every single character, plot thread, and even piece of clothing has to be le epic reference to a past FF title.
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>>719560761
Just have zero online presence whatsoever. That's what the guy who stole that kid's hat should have done.
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>>719561391
??? In Japanese, there is no tranny.
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>>719562121
>MUH NIHON!!!!
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>>719561098
paragraph spacing is pretty common everywhere in the world.
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>>719561170
>t. extremely fucking sensitive XIVfag obsessed with the producer of the game
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XIV players are desperate to deflect from criticism.
Don't they know everyone is laughing?
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>>719558321
Musicians will storm off stage it they feel like the audience is giving them shit.
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>>719555891
>takes down a web service used by people to jerk off or share vfx mods and outfits
>does nothing about rampaging botters and cheaters that get so bad people entirely punch out of game modes over it
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>>719561661
benefit for what? reactors are active power, meaning all that power has to be used as its made, what exactly needs like 10 external reactors and however many were in Midgar itself? its never explained or thought about.

the City is ananmoly, what supplies it? how was it built? what feeds all these people? there should be dozens of smaller cities on its vast outskirts to facilitate this.

nothign, no thought put in, the worldbuilding never really left Midgar, its why there's a fuckin Casino in the middle of nowhere on another Continent, as if this world was so ill explored and filled in by its people they effectively only ever built like 3 locations.
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All the ingredients are there for a good mmo worthy of grinding but they're all locked behind Field Operations and PvP.
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>>719562559
The 'reactors' are for sucking up Mako. Think oil drilling.
The mako is what is used as fuel.
It's science fiction. It's a PS1 game that was made for children. You are not intelligent.
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>>719562635
Eureka maybe, Bozja and OC are not grindy in the slightest
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>good mmo worthy of grinding
Sickening
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>>719555891
What next great game? Something like Dawntrail? Oh no, what a travesty it would be to dodge another Dawntrail.
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>>719562559
Maybe mako is horribly inefficient as fuel but much cheaper to mine en masse
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>>719562749
Another Dawntrail would kill FFXIV
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>>719562559
>a city can't exist in a desert, how do they eat food? what supplies it?
You are literally an ignoramus. You know that? I know you think you're smart, but you're a lot dumber than the people who made Final Fantasy VII, I promise you that.
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>>719562678
less complex RPG's have better worldbuilding than 7, hell most FF's have better worldbuilding than 7, 8's world is far more fleshed out and "lived in" than 7's is.

7 has a modern (ish) megacity in the middle of a Continent with nothing else for thousands of miles.

its inexplicable, did they summon it into existence? no railways or outer cities or factories or construction hubs, nothing.

also they are sucking the entire planets worth of Mako.. to do what? where does it go, it has to be "used" to need more, but there's nothing on the scale of how much they suck up to show for it, a single City should and probably could be powered off one Reactor.
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>>719558321
google some dude called Axl Rose, also google some dude called Kurt Cobain
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>>719560473
That's right. And the same youtube vids, commentary and closed wallets no matter how long it takes.
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>>719563085
Based
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>>719562810
we are told the exact opposite, its very very powerful, they just don't explain why they need so much of it.

>>719562978
it can with supply lines and docks and shit, but FF7 never bothers with "how" the world works, it just presents to you this very disjointed world where somehow its a world like a barely carved out Pioneer America, but there's also Megaopolis Detroit in the middle of nowhere.
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>>719560473
Make a good game and the treads will praise it.
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>>719562706
Eureka has the element wheel. I wish they'd bring that to the main game. Bozja has the "skills influenced by your elixir" stuff that has laid the groundwork for subjobs. Idk about OC because I haven't played (and never will) DT. PvP has proven some skills can change depending on different situations (GNB's Draw).
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>>719562917
Genuinely still just baffled that they have a whole development team and seemingly everyone thought Dawntrail was worthy of standing alongside the rest of the expansions.
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>>719560761
when things affect real life it is no longer cyber bullying, retardanon
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Fire kate fire hiroi
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>>719563013
Remember the gigantic mega futuristic city in the middle of the desert/salt flats in FFVIII that is entirely cloaked in stealth camouflage? I remember.

>>719563142
>where's duh supply lines????
I'm gonna need you to stop posting about Final Fantasy. You know there are cities in the middle east, right? A desert surrounds Dubai.
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>>719563250
Yoshipee said he knew the reception wasn't going to be good. But I guess he didn't care?
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>>719560761
>how is harassing my boss or my bank by spamming their inbox making up stories about how I raped babies real, when criticism exists!
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>>719557525
Mostrar más
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>>719557861
The problem is that any time I give constructive criticism about anything nobody is gonna listen t ome cause I'm so internet rando, if a vidya developer reads my 10 thousand word disertation about the design flaws in MHWilds and how I'd change the game for the better in my personal opinion they'd just ignore it and think I am schmuck, however, if I just call the game director a retard say he should kill himself he won't be able to ignore me as easily and he will be forced to feel how much I hate him for ruining something good.
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>>719563336
>Acknowledges that something is going to be poorly received by most players
>Do nothing to fix it
>Release it anyway
>Tell people to stop saying mean things because it makes them sad
This dude is such a bitch.
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>>719563434
Based wielder of hatred.
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>>719563325
Nigga, Dubai was built explicitly because they could use the ridiculous resources and supply chain of the rest of the developed world around them. They got their steel from China, which was already a giant megalopolis itself, which was built up by the British, etc etc.

Dubai was built on the back of an already giant infrastructure. Midgar is like making Dubai when the rest of the world is still in the medieval period. Impossible.
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>>719563325
and you know there are railways and fucking mega boats bringing it supplies daily right?

there's no infanstructure to supply the weirdly small but dense world of FF7.

no one builds one giant City in the middle of thousands of miles of Plains, its retarded.
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>>719563523
Yeah pretty much
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>>719555891
>developers who made shitty game could be demoralized from making GREAT games
o i am laffin m8
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>>719560761
If you wanna act like a stupid cunt on the internet just don't attach your real name to it.
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>>719563530
not only only is the rest of the world like Pioneer wild west shit, there isn't even that many other human villages.

but BOOM Mega-Detroit with probably population in the hundreds of thousands in the middle of nothing, with no way to build it, feed or maintain it.
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>>719563325
Yeah Esthar is the Emerald City, where Laguna is playing the "wizard" by being in charge of sealing Adel
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>mfw publically advertising link shells got a response
Soon, I will destroy the modding scene of ffxiv.
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>>719563530
>the rest of the world is in the medieval period
That's complete and utter NONSENSE. You have not completed Final Fantasy VII in your life. You are so off base, you don't even understand how much of the lore of the world you have missed out on.
Shinra bombed the world. They took out Junon. Wutai is the other nation they are at war with stealing resources from. Midgar was build by the power company in the desert in almost the exact same way as Dubai. You are so fucking stupid.....

>>719563620
>there are no boats, planes or trains in Final Fantasy VII
Who the fuck are you people???? You realize Midgar is next to the water....right?

>>719563717
>thousands in the middle of nothing, with no way to build it, feed or maintain it.
There is no way to build, feed or maintain Dubai. Right?
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>>719561961
I don't even play 14 retard, you brought atlus, I proved you are just LARPers who still support trannies and pozzed translations
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>>719560761
There's a difference between having to deal with easily blockable retards hurl insults at you on a website vs smug moral crusading psychopaths that go out their way to ruin your life.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kye324j2vEc
i never actually played final fantasy xiv and this is all i have to see to hate this shit character
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>>719557821
Baldurs Gate 3 is turn based and made a billion dollars. Enix has been making the same jrpg for 40 years, and it sells massive numbers.
It's not a real time vs. turn based debate It's good games vs. shit games debate and game devs will do everything but admit they made a shit game.
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>>719563924
Imagine spending time with that for 40 hours
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>>719556732
>Wtf happened in 1 day.

>"HERRO U RIKE RUK RAMACK??"
>"no."
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>>719563805
>They took out Junon
Junon was nothing but the little fishing village under the fortress city. Midgar built the fortress city, again out of nothing and for nothing. A giant cannon sits on top of it, but it is aiming at nobody until the WEAPONS are awakened, and they just lucked out that one walked straight up to them from the water instead of from the side. No sense at all.

We see Wutai as well, which is just a fucking Sengoku era Japanese village with wood houses and temples. They don't even have a fucking boat dock.
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>>719564097
>Baldurs Gate 3 is
A dating sim.
The combat has nothing to do with its success
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>>719555891
The people who made your burgers are people too. Getting told they make shitty burgers might discourage them from making more burgers in the future.
Please think of the burger flippers.
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>>719564982
Food is necessary for life, video games are not
Therefore, burger flippers are infinitely more important than game developers
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>>719555891
you sound upset anon
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Kate is a gamedev
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>>719565140
Concept artist and level designer yeah

But community manager? Lmao
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>>719555891
All Yoshida critics are evil.
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>>719555891
Reminder Squeenix will go bankrupt and ff17 is cancelled, XIV players coping won't change this
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>>719555891
Piece of shit that made 16.
He deserves to burn
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>>719565219
>People pay for something
>It's not what they liked
>Why are they angry at us
People are paying money, they're entitled to be angry.
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>>719564701
>The combat has nothing to do with its success
Ok, so turn-based games can sell. Sounds like FF needs to add in some dating sim mechanics like Fire Emblem (the Japanese version at least, I think they censored anything in the west).
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I sense a lot of mmo player mental illness in this thread, have you guys tried to go outside recently? get some sun on that pale skin?
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>>719565212
She managed to make the community hate her
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Never will understand being this obsessed with some random Japanese dude, even the players aren’t this obsessed with him most of them know him as the live letter dude
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>>719561309
And every single one of these people have convinced themselves that they're "just being honest" and "telling it how it is". That people who tell them to fuck off just "Can't handle a harsh truth".
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>>719565140
>>719565212
Yeah but Kate is the English Localization head and now the "lore specialist"
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>>719555891
not like he remembers customers are people as well, what with the predatory practices most devs employ
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>>719557861
>unconstructive dunking, the just complaining
You're retarded.
See? It's useful because you can get a quick estimate of how shit your game is going to be. If you can't estimate how much people hate your game from a quick survey then that's a you problem.
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>>719558321
every public facing job deals with this shit on a daily basis, especially people in retail
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>>719557861
shut the fuck up dude. people post huge, well crafted walls of text about the innumerable problems the game has like once a week and all the problems are simply ignored every time, or snuffed out by the yesman fanbase. these devs have no interest in listening to criticism, constructive or otherwise
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>>719556213
igor sucked
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>>719561170
The only people obsessed with Yoship outside of the odd interview or Liveletter are the schizos obsessed with hating the game.
Who do you think creates this same thread 10 times a day for 5 years.
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why did he do it?
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>>719565272
>Reminder Squeenix will go bankrupt and ff17 is cancelled
Too good to happen. Square won't die.
And even if Square dies some Chinese or western company gets hold of Final Fantasy and mutilates it beyond repair.
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>>719558681
E33 is fucking ff10 and other rpgs in a Glutton mess
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>>719559432
i plyed all 13s games
1 is good
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>>719555891
>Mostrar mas
ngmi
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ah this is why a FFXIV thread was autosaged, a janitor is a moron and killed it in favor of a yoshida seethe thread
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>>719560358
>Anon p3r sold less than P5
thats cause p5 is shilled non fucking stop
with the omg this kids bop jazz is killer
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>>719567413
How can you tell when a thread is "autosaged"?
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>>719567380
I genuinely hadn't noticed that OP is Brazilian Portuguese. It's always the huemonkeys that get super hateattached to an MMO director.
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imo i think yoship is a good developer but hes not very good at being creative.
Hes not a good ideas guy, hes more like the one that gets the idea across and oversees that it is done correctly
Meanwhile devs like Nomura are one of the most creative ones ever, its just that he needs someone to convey his ideas. Hes similar to Kojima, since Kojima also had someone that helped carry on his ideas.
I still remember that interview when they talked about stranger of paradise, where he said that the ending sequence where Jack Garland sees the main party opening the door (see pic related) was one of the images he imagined when he played FF1 for the first time, and he finally managed to carry on this imagery in the game, thats when i realized "thats it". Thats the shit i respect, and something i can relate.

But yoship doesnt strike me like someone creative. He can get the job done, but it isnt the one that will create a concept or have a rough idea.
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>>719567515
it's spanish though
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>>719567494
instructions pictured
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>>719567542
>But yoship doesnt strike me like someone creative
I mean look at ff16, thats just proof of that
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>>719567494
When people post but it stops bumping
Easy way to check, just check how long ago the last post was, if it was a minute ago and it's on page 5, it's been autosaged by an assblasted mod
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>>719555891
its our prerogative to dislike what we dont like, dumb jap
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>>719567494
when the thread doesn't bump anymore before 500 posts
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>>719567413
Janny is probably unironically also a mentally ill mmo player irrationally made at video games so of course he'd kill the actual thread with discussion
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>>719555891
>Br
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>>719567797
janny mmo tribalism is common knowledge
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>>719567783
But it says "1" here, so it's not "autosaged" right?
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>>719555891
He's right.
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>>719567797
He loves Wow
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>>719567901
he's talking about a different thread anon
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>>719567901
there was another xiv thread that has been up for a few hours that got autosaged, because janny hate when people have a xiv thread that isnt 90% having a meltdown over a japanese developer for no reason
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>>719563298
yes it is dumbass. just because your cyber bullying causes real life consequences that doesn't make it not cyber bullying
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>>719565439
Not to say people aren't justified tin their disappointment, but some voices really are unhinged and treat XIV like some hated ex-wife
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I don't see why they can't implement glamour toggles. That's what really irks me. If I was a sprout in Halatali and the mt is a male lala wearing a speedo with those moogle arms and legs I'd be taken out of the game world. Have that toggle on by default so sprouts or people who care about the game won't have to deal with the tonal whiplash.
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>>719557665
>it doesn't help you dont buy all their other turn based games
But I want to play turn based FINAL FANTASY you fuck. Bravely Default, Octopath, etc. aren't FF.
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>>719565219
OR MAYBE YOU FUCKED UP AND THEY DIDNT LIKE IT DICKHEAD
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>>719568048
if i were a sprout in halatali "muh immersion" is the literal last thing i would be thinking about
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>>719568048
because realistically this is not a feature most people ask for and not really worth the time to make, not to mention not worth the headache of terminally online people complaining on the forums about it
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>>719555891
I have reached the point where I would prefer that Yoshi P not make another game. He is very bad at it and he is continuing to ruin a franchise I once loved.
But I also don't think Square Enix is capable of making good games anymore, with or without him. So I would prefer that they stop as well.
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>>719568048
Just play zoomed out, you can't see the character
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>>719555891
This guy forces people to pay him rent to keep their virtual houses in the game he makes a million excuses to not improve or provide content. He's a literal landlord crying that his tenant expecting the water to work. What a cunt.
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here's your bingo card for tomorrow's patch

yes thats the whole thing
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playing through dawntrail and it's so bad. can't believe yoshi approved of it
does kate have a blackmail on him?
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>>719568378
>sign rent agreement
>wtf i pay rent now
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Nobody can ignore shit and just make their stuff anyway these days not even the Japanese, fucking sad
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>>719560387
its sad cause dating is the same as Dragon age bioware shit
these faggots want two, three convos then PG-13 sex
everyone that brings up dating in a game I wish death on them one vmgame ever has g
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>>719568680
yoshida makes press fluff pieces like these almost constantly and the vast majority of them are just reiterating stuff he's said before already, OP's in particular is reiterating "please don't be a freak in our mailboxes" like he has before but he started going harder on it after square enix felt comfy saying they were gonna sue repeat harassers into the ground like sega did
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>>719568287
He has catered to those retarded faggots for too long. If I were him, I'd implement a dungeon glamour system. If your party members look like a bunch of faggots, you hit a button to dress them all in the gear found in that dungeon.
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>>719555891
I hate San d'oria

I blame you for that.
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I didn't know there was a contingent of people that care what their dungeon party members look like but also don't have the presence of mind to run it with trusts if they're that bothered about it.
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>>719569003
it didn't have the soul that the jeuno raid did. qufim looks fucking gorgeous though and kamlanaut is one of the best 24 man fights we've had in ages
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>>719567542
this entire scene goes hard as hell and really makes me respect the "reimaging" of FF1 that this game was.
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>>719567696
FF16 was Maehiro's bad writing on full display
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>>719569046
There was a guy in the other thread that was ranting about deep dungeon for like 1000 posts so I can believe absolute retards exist.
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>>719569104
I'm so sick of wiping because I get healers that have been conditioned for years to never ever heal. I don't think most of these niggers even have half their buttons on their bars.
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>>719569193
Oh yeah he was attacking some other guy for pretty much the whole thread and accusing him of having fifty billion alts to play pretend with himself with, all because he had a specific Deep Dungeon title. It was really funny
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>>719569046
trusts can't comm me and play like they use addons to predict mechanics
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>>719569271
Counter-point, they also won't (can't) revive you, you don't have to wait ten minutes for your mouthbreather tank to solo a boss if the healer dies, and they're guaranteed to survive most things
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>>719555891
"we're people" is not an excuse not to do your job
>>719560761
>cancel culture is not cyber bullying
of course it isn't. cyber-bullying is not real
getting people debanked and fired from their jobs because they hurt your fee-fees online crosses the line and makes you a sociopath
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>>719569236
yeah. there are a few good heal checks, the kirin intermission phase and kamlanaut's phase change are surprisingly rough. the stack marker in kamlanaut's is so hard hitting its best to sac yourself unless the raid is with you, and it always targets a healer
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>>719569259
Yeah the deep dungeon dude posted a childs hand in the thread to try to win an internet argument about ??????
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>>719569162
Maehiro wrote HW, he had been working on XVI's script since 2016, if anything the fact it turned out that bad when HW was done in probably a year or two is just the fact of Yoshida's meddling.
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>>719569395
>being a gamer
>not having a child wife
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>>719569162
>>719569410
They tried top replicate Games of Thrones without understanding what Game of Thrones was replicating.
It was a copy of a copy, fucking retarded as a basis for a story.
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SPHEEEEEEEEEEEENE
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>>719569410
naw. maehiro can't write women and he can't write personal development. note moenbryda and ysyale both died in patches he wrote
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>>719569410
>Maehiro wrote HW
Not really a high vote of confidence, Maehiro also dropped the brewing civil war subplot after barely bringing attention to it, put Ysayle in a wood-chipper to spite Ishikawa, shanked Aymeric in an alley through plate armor to move him from scene to scene. I find a lot of Maehiro's writing faults for FF16 are still present throughout ARR and HW, most especially that he has NO idea of what to do with female characters and he has difficulty connecting specific "cool things happen" points.
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>>719569445
>Waking your little brother up and taking him out of the crib to post on 4 chan to try to win an internet argument that your "wife" is real
That's a real gamer move
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My 4 days of free login time ran out, and although I didn't do all the content I had access to before running out (I've still only done the first 8 and 24 man raids in Dawntrail), I have no interest in buying game time until we get Beastmaster.
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>>719569162
I think it was Yoshipee who wanted to appeal to edgy western fans instead of being FF
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>play like they use addons to predict mechanics
i dunno if trusts still do this but alisae would sometimes fuck up mechanics which isn't a big deal for her because trusts don't get vuln stacks but god forbid you held her hand to do the fight

>>719569337
>im-fucking-plying
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>>719569663
Yoshida definitely wanted an edgier and western inspired FF but he also got a butt-ton of money for FF16's development and couldn't commit to his idea as a result. Ended up with a bland, undercooked and very expensive game with zero levity. Also Snape kills Cid immediately.
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>>719569684
>im-fucking-plying
Run into the wall and kill yourself if you smell the boss will take an eon
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>>719565572
Shouldn't the lore specialist know the lore or at least do their job well enough that they don't contradict their own lore?
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>>719569684
>We did it, Thancred!
KEK
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>>719565572
>now the "lore specialist"
She's listed as a consultant for Dawntrail, probably purely for being an American and probably only as a liaison for the actual consultancy they hired
Lore specialist/setting dungeon-master is Banri Oda
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Why is Yoshi-P so memed right now? It feels hella forced. It's like everything he says is a controversy. I'm not even sure if he's a drama queen and loves just getting the news to report on everything he does, or MMOtrannies are just mentally ill and will dig through his trash to find something to cancel him.
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>>719562559
>the City is ananmoly
GOOD MORNING SAAR PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL FF7 AND DO NOT REDEEM THE MAKO ENERGY
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>>719555891
This picture perfectly describes the fanbase. Good msq is representative of all the normalfags playing ffxiv
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>>719557273
How does that yoshi-penis taste, you fucking queer

maybe dont make bad games, and people wont shit on you
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>>719569551
HW had the best personal development in the game between Alphinaud and Estinien what the fuck are you on about?
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>>719570051
It's an extension of Twitter rage-pigs that scrutinize every single thing the man says as a grand indictment of FF14.

Note: These guys didn't really exist before the big WoW exodus during and after Shadowbringers.
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>>719563013
If you're wondering how he eats and breathes
And other science facts
Then repeat to yourself, "It's just a show
I should really just relax
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>>719569798
or just do the mechanics and don't die
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>>719569721
Elvaan and San'doria are superior
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>>719570125
GATHERING FIREWOOD IS NOT PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT
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World of Final Fantasy is the best game in the series we've gotten in like 10 years
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>>719556732
Final Fantasy XIV fans talked to him.
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>>719570221
heavensward is not one quest retard
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>>719555891
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>>719570051
there's a mixture of factors:
>he speaks only in PR speak
>he only speaks in japanese and translations are done either by fellow PR speak translators or free-lance unofficial translators that have axes to grind about one issue or another
>as such we get trolls being as harsh as possible in their retellings of what happened
>every now and then yoshi-p does say something really stupid or contradictory which gives the previous step just enough crediblity that only the people who follow everything can really sort out
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>>719557273
The softly unspoken reason we haven't gotten regional DC travel and instead have Oceania as a borderline unpopulated travel point for that is that Americans are pigs and he knows it
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>>719570051
Because he is the face of ff14
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>>719570197
I was an Elvaan that started in Windy in Dec 2003, come at me
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>>719570221
It is, thoughbeit, but also a lot of that development is over the course of the expansion and not just one campfire scene. There's a reason sentiment for Alphinaud improved drastically in HW when everyone here wanted to kill and rape him to death during ARR
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>>719555891
Make a better game if you don't want people shit talking you.
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>>719556732
lmaoooo fuck cons so much
normal people stay away from those places like the plague
AND IT SMELLS LIKE THE PLAGUE TOO
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>>719570370
>>719570459
pics unrelated, i'm guessing
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>>719570535
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>>719555891
>HE
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>>719555891
He made the mistake of viewing consumers as persons and not as mindless NPCs that don't know what they want
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>>719570590
do not doro at me
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>>719560935
HE
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>>719570132
>>719570325
>>719570351
not even nomura, kitase or toriyama gets this much fucking drama. why the fuck is there so much fucking autism on this game jesus christ? it's like everything about this game is so political. why the fuck has FF gone so political?? (NO not in the sense you're going to troll me with on how lolololol woke shit, what I mean is the whole oh if you like yoshi-p FF stuff then you hate nomura stuff or vice versa or it's my side vs your side)
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>>719570683
>not even nomura, kitase or toriyama gets this much fucking drama
They don't make MMO's. MMO fans are ultra autistic.
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>>719555891
>panel with Minegawa
>Yoshi-P: "For someone who can't draw, telling the art director what you want to see, it takes a lot of courage..."
>*pauses and looks at the room for applause*
AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>719570770
i don't even know who created FF11 lmao.
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>>719570683
Yoshida is the big figure head for FF at the moment for heading the MMO and mainline, both of which are floundering at the moment due to him. You do the math, and also yes those people got just as much flak when they have relevant projects.
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>>719566138
I liked it. New Magic Wand goes hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds1bgcB4Wk4
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>>719560935
what's with the sudden influx of people obsessing over what this guy wears?
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He just misses the days where people worshiped the ground he walked on.
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>>719570683
>not even nomura ... gets this much fucking drama
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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so he abandoned FF 14?
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>>719570841
I like XVI though. how the fuck are people eating up ff7r, I never know.. but it feels like both XIV and XVI gets hella into political warfare and jesus christ every fucking time it's always SOME controversy whenever yoshi-p opens his mouth.
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>>719570793
Imagine being a project lead and being scared to tell people how you want the game to fucking look.
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>>719559189
absolute spastic
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>>719570683
You tell me my friend. The only opinions I ever see consistently from all XIV players is that "Yoshi-P saved Final Fantasy, Yoshi-P is carrying Final Fantasy single handedly on his back, FF would be dead without Yoshi-P"

These people are not Final Fantasy fans, they are MMO fans. They are autistically obsessed with their preferred MMO and therefore they WORSHIP the corporate figure at the center of the game. If you say something negative about the game, you're insulting their cult leader. They get extremely angry if you point this out.
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>>719570994
Mobile is hated in China
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>>719570951
How could you stand 16's gameplay but hate FF7r gameplay?
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>>719555891
good. stop making games if u suck ass at it, losers
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>>719570683
Nomura has a lot of shit flung at him but FF14 is SE's cashcow and MMO fans, both 14 and WoW, are extremely mentally ill.

>like yoshi-p FF stuff then you hate nomura stuff or vice versa or it's my side vs your side)
Mentally ill schizoids like Barry!
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>>719570994
FF 14 is so simple it can be played on phones?
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>>719570683
>not even nomura, kitase or toriyama gets this much fucking drama.
You're a zoomer.
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>>719571041
they're both autistic.
>>719571083
rule of cool + rhythmic gameplay. but I think I'm the minority on that end. what really grills my marbles about ff7r is literally everything outside the gameplay though. even if they wanted to do this not really remake sequel shit why are they trying to take both cakes and eat it. well whatever, discussion for another day.
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>>719570683
>not even nomura, kitase or toriyama gets this much fucking drama
None of them have failed in delivering Final Fantasy games as bad as Yoshida has failed.
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>>719555891
I dont give a shit I already unsubbed and am playing POE2
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>>719570132
>Note: These guys didn't really exist before the big WoW exodus during and after Shadowbringers.
Actually, you didn't. Those of us who have been around from the start always called Yoshi-P a lying faggot. This little cult he has going now started after the WoW exodus because you golems programmed by the CIA operatives on the Activision board only know how to worship and defend corporations.
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>>719570683
>not even nomura, kitase or toriyama gets this much fucking drama
They might be retarded, but they are at least based and retarded.
They have passionate ideas and are deeply creative people.
They take risks, they fail, and they keep moving forward.

Yoshida cries. He's a corporate stooge. Not a creative
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FF14 fags do seem quite unhinged and cringe. Never playued it, but after Omega was announced for MH they spam about how it's a time-hopping universe-destroying superboss from FF5. It's just fucking warmech from FF1, even I know that.
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>>719571305
newfag's gambit: everyone else is a newfag
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16 wasn't even directed by yoshi-p, why is he the face of the games, how come nobody talks about the other two directors like lmao wtf.
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>>719571346
this
yuckshit-piss's claim to fame is that he copied WoW's gameplay loop. that is literally all this scam artist has done.
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>>719555891
I don't want people who have this mentality to make video games. Wasn't he also saying "JRPG" is offensive? Fuck this faggot, FF16 SUCKS!!
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>>719570994
I never would have thought that japs could just get completely dunked on by chinese slop factory workers at their own fucking game.
I especially remember people absolutely seething that they even have a better glamour system, mainly the catalogue they they kept theorycrafting on live letters since SHB and seemingly just fucking gave up on.
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>>719571441
I can prove I've been here since day one. How about you? I already know you can't, because I know who you are and I know you started just before Shadowbringers came out. Your Simpsons image macro gives you away, dog fucker.
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>>719571460
He's the most well-known person thats why
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Oh, shit, Nomura apologism and revisionism. We're randy for a Yoshida hate thread today.
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>>719571239
I mean the stock just hit all time highs it hasn't seen since 2000. June 21st 2024 was a rocket ship.
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>>719571460
They don't actually care about that. They want to obsess over Yoship
Thats the answer
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>>719571498
but he's just the producer like what the fuck? he's not even the writer. why the fuck are people acting like he's completely in charge and it's his vision. I mean with XIV it's somewhat similar but he's head honcho so I get it.
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>>719571460
The producer has authority over the directors. Just like you blame showrunners instead of scriptwriters when a TV show fails.
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>>719571545
That's because of the Singaporean group buying up all the stocks for a takeover.
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>>719571494
>i know who you are and you're my greatest enemy and you fuck dogs and
blah blah blah i love reading my own posts >>>/vg/xivg
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>>719571460
>16 wasn't even directed by yoshi-p, why is he the face of the games
Probably because Yoshida made himself the face. Did you ever see Takai on the marketing tour?
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>>719571606
Ive always said square has huge potential as a gacha money printer. The entitled fanbase was on borrowed time.
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>>719571636
That's a good bitch (and no that's not a term of endearment, don't get a stiffy). Sit down until you're willing to post your oldest achievement.
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>>719571460
Yoshi-P is the one playing the game with one hand on stage to brag about how easy and automated the game is
Yoshi-P is the one in all the interviews putting his foot in his mouth about game design (he's not a game designer)

Takai is not on video saying something fucking retarded about Final Fantasy
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>>719571732
>square has huge potential as a gacha money printer.
They've been trying the past few years and it didn't pan out.
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>>719571601
They do keep hiring this faggot to write the same gay satanic slop over and over again.
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why am i not allowed to like ffxvi again
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>>719556213
>get doxed my nigga
>ahahhaha close your eyes walk away
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>>719571864
Because it's a shit game and you already know that which is why you preemptively came in with the all lowercase no punctuation faux apathy bullshit.
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>>719571864
You should play more, better games.
FFXVI is not a Final Fantasy game in it's design, and it's main theme is subversive of the franchise in of itself.

"The legacy of the crystal has shaped our history for long enough"
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>>719571864
Go make a thread
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>>719571864
It's kinda mediocre but also I'm obsessed with Naoki Yoshida and "The State Of Final Fantasy" so if you aren't too then you're my sworn enemy and LITERALLY everything wrong with the franchise. 4chan belched and tried to eat my post, during which time exactly the same aggro rage addict I'm strawmanning started flailing at you.
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>>719572006
>It's kinda mediocre
It's a completely incompetent game.
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>>719571776
Somthings generating 300B a year, we know its not FF games and FF14 cant be that big?
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>>719571997
>and it's main theme is subversive of the franchise in of itself.
>"The legacy of the crystal has shaped our history for long enough"
Final Fantasy 6 also said "magic bad"
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>>719571864
Its OK I guess, but gameplay, story, and world leave a lot to be desired. The VA is good but thats all I can really give XVI highmarks for.
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literal forced hate
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>>719572073
Crazy how you read something completely different from what the post said.
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>>719572062
It's not good, but this doesn't by necessity mean it's bad. It's a AAA action game. It can't be very difficult, it can't really follow through on its own writing, it has to make its enormous budget back. It's video game white noise.
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>>719570683
It's a MMO that should continue to thrive by most metrics considering it's a breadwinner for Square, but now the casual first MMO players are seeing the fruits of Square's stealing.

The engine can't handle what people want out of the game. Glamour and Houses are still restricted out the ass. Stuff goes on the shop too quickly this expansion. All signs point towards the game tumbling down the cliff to a point of no return.

They can't do A Realm Reborn twice.
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>>719571859
Maehiro is the best writer at SE. You're a tard.
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>>719555891
>devs make shit game
>the public call it shit
>devs become sad and you could miss out on great games
>....but instead, devs make shit games again
there ARE no good games in the future nigga. Don't be afraid to shit on devs when they deserve it
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>>719572073
>FFXVI poorly copies yet another better FF game
>the defense for FFXVI's poor thematic gameplay integration is that.....FFVI exists
Kek.
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>>719571603
>similar 'feel' to japs means rip off everything right down to character archetypes
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total larry defeat
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this is who i imagine all the people replying to me look like
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>>719572128
Yeah it is crazy that I brought up another game that also maligned crystals and magic for the purposes of its own plot, and didn't actually interpret the line as being an indictment of Final Fantasy itself like the lunatic on the other end of the computer screen wanted me to interpret it as
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>>719572195
lmao
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>>719570653
HAS
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>>719572151
I can't think of a single design choice in XVI that was well implemented. Half the game's runtime is just spent doing shitty FFXIV quests. The action combat is as shallow as a puddle. It could have been a AAA action game and been decent at the very least, but it just wasn't. They needed to cut the 40 hours of shitty sidequests, the meandering filler between dungeons, and give you something to do between skill cooldowns (or remove cooldowns and put them on a resource that refills if you're aggressive).
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>>719572224
i have esoteric reference to some nobody on twitter everyone is somehow expected to know about fatigue
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>>719571603
Has a scenario where a creative gave "homework" to their team like this ever turned out well?
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>>719572316
NO
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>>719571864
Because Yoshida was involved in it.
It doesn't matter that FFXVI was 10/10 high fantasy kino.
What matters is that my boogeyman was involved, so it's bad.
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>>719572207
Remember when he said FF6 was bad because the scene where Terra was conceived isn't explicit enough? These faggots haven't actually played FF.
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>want to get good house plot
>FORCED to transfer to a relatively dead data center, Dynamis, just to get a house because getting a medium/large on Aether/Primal/Crystal is actually impossible (you may wait 5+ years otherwise)
>now I have to DC travel back to aether just to raid

Yoshi where the fucking cross DC queue/party finder? Come on Japs I know you can force your workers to work 16 hour days to get this shit done.
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>>719572415
BUDGET
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>>719572351
normal people do maybe three sidequests, see the rewards suck, then don't bother with the rest, like how BOTW/TOTK have people that fucking hate how padded the game is with korok seeds and got mad the reward for getting them all is a golden turd when the obvious intention was you do whatever's along the way until you have full rewards, or the ur-example of gold skulltulas in OOT where the game is audibly confused you got them all and gives you a useless reward (infinite money)
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>>719572227
FFVI didn't malign crystals or magic. It never says magic is bad. And again that's not what the post you replied to said at all. The tagline for XVI is "The LEGACY OF THE CRYSTALS has shaped our history for long enough." The legacy of the crystals. XVI is a game about uprooting and destroying tradition. The main villain's theme is the FF1 world map theme. They weren't going to put chocobos or moogles in at all until some producer lady had a shitfit in the board room. It's a game that actively despises the legacy of Final Fantasy.
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Is there a JRPG community that isn't completely retarded and stuck having wars with each other? I've played a couple of them and it sucks because nobody will talk about the niche one and the popular series gets absolutely riddled with posers, shitposters, actual fucking basement dwellers, and crazy people. Is there this much autism in Tales/Trails/Atlier? like damn
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>>719572407
Mega Man 11 where the director forced everybody to play the older Classic series in its entirety so they knew what worked, what didn't and what the musical style should be
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>>719572351
I loved it, but the gameplay was awful. Wish they had gone souls slop. Not shitty .hack clone like FF Origins, but souls like the first 15% when melee mattered.
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>>719572407
Sakaguchi with the first 11 games unironically. Metzen with most of the stuff he does. Vince Gilligan. It's just Yoshida always delegates to like-minded retards and the one time he didn't we got the only universally praised storyline he's responsible for in Shadowbringers.
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>>719572073
I'm not sure if FF6 has an overarching theme. It's more about a bunch of characters on an adventure, and in that regard it's flawless. Games like FF9 really muddy itself down with trying to establish meaning out of nowhere.
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>>719558321
musicians are the biggest drama queens

from pop roasties to zesty rap bucks
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>>719572495
Source?
Pretty sure that story is about ffxiv 1.0 and Yoshida is the one who put chocobo and ff jobs back in
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>>719572503
Reddit
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>>719572495
>FFVI didn't malign crystals or magic. It never says magic is bad.
Didn't Play FF6 But Voted It Best JRPG Of All Time award
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>>719572495
Based and irrefutable. They can only cry about the better games that XVI stole from.

They literally cannot see what is right in front of them, no matter what. FFXVI is the worst FF game of all time. It's pure shit. It's an insult. It's literally worse than Dragon Age Veilguard in how badly it betrays what came before. And the worse part is that it's taken seriously, people praise it, and completely fail to comprehend why people have such a massive problem with it.
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>>719572608
The overarching theme of FFVI is finding a purpose to live. Everyone in the party after the World of Ruin goes off to find their own reasons to continue on. Kefka, on the other hand, has no reason for doing anything.
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>>719555891
>they don't want to make games anymore
good. fuck repetitive wokeslop unit 3
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A couple of my points.
I think this criticism should've been voiced MUCH earlier when the game started showing signs of deterioration.
I had sicken me to see people praise Yoshida as a god during the game's high points when he was never really that spectacular to begin with.
But at this point, It's a bit too late I feel. They're, what, 3 more expansions until maint mode? You really think they can fix everything before then?
I ALSO think the hate is a bit overblown. Like, it's just a video game at the end of the day. If you don't like it, stop playing it and disassociate immediately. I don't care how many hours you spent prior. Just let it go. Come back if things get better. Keeping it rent free in your head even after all that is not healthy.
Now if you ask me if things can get better, there's always that chance. Do I believe it's likely? Not without key changes to design philosophy, workplace culture and key personnel, I don't think.
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>>719572443
They are MMO players. XVI was their first one.
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>>719572659
>Pretty sure that story is about ffxiv 1.0 and Yoshida is the one who put chocobo and ff jobs back in
Pretty sure you're retarded because FFXIV 1.0 had chocobos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc7QJueQy7Q
>>719572672
I play it every few years. You'll never back up anything you say because you're full of shit. The game doesn't malign crystals or magic. Crystals in FFVI are the fucking souls of the espers helping you, retarded motherfucker. You're trying to say FFVI maligns the ESPERS.
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>>719572826
So no source?
You couldn't ride Chocobos in 14 until Yoshida took over
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>>719572826
ffvi maligns the imprisonment of espers in crystals as magicite

you are a retard walking in half-cocked
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>>719572670
wrong
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>>719572495
They leaned so hard into the moogles I have a hard time believing that. Its actually mogs game.

https://youtu.be/QBG4TUPxQ0U?si=s-1lp_SXd0AdJK0j
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>>719555891
Demoralize developers? Bro I'm demoralized, I don't give a shit about these complex bosses I just want fun jobs again
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>>719572826
Yoshida cultists say anything at all, to defend Yoshida. They defend XVI because Yoshida was the face of the game. It's that simple. No matter what you say, they will deflect to another game to nullify all criticism.
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>>719572874
>You couldn't ride Chocobos in 14 until Yoshida took over
Because they weren't patched in yet. They were in the game. Even the chocobo stables were in, just not accessible. The game was released in alpha stage.
>So no source?
Find it yourself. You already know the interview I'm talking about because you tried to assign it to 1.0, which you now know is bullshit. So go find it again.
>>719572891
>the imprisonment of espers in crystals as magicite
Very ironic post after you accused me of not playing it. The espers aren't imprisoned in crystals, you arrogant faggot. Magicite are the corpses of espers. They're the remnants left behind after an esper dies. It's not a prison. Play some fucking video games before you open your mouth again.
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>>719572969
you are exactly the kind of permanently enraged moron that made me filter out "criticism" and "cultist" for using them as buzzwords
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>>719572941
Saw this ad years before I played the game. What other game promotes a completely optional character past the tutorial like this?
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>>719555891
Not my fault XVI sucked, Yoshi-P had it extremely easy with XV being disappointing and people sucking his dick for XIV and still fumbled it
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>>719573053
If you filtered them then how did you see that post?
Oh, because you didn't filter anything.
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>>719573035
>You already know the interview I'm talking about because you tried to assign it to 1.0, which you now know is bullshit. So go find it again
I can't even begin to understand how dumb you are
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>>719572941
You lack reading comprehension. Read that post again. FFXVI didn't have moogles, the moogle had to be added in. A WOMAN superior was told they didn't have moogles in the game, and she put her foot down
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>retard raging out about FF6 is addicted to archiving his own posts and believes everyone he's ever argued with is one guy
You can't make this up.
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He Mostrar más
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>>719572495
>They weren't going to put chocobos or moogles in at all until some producer lady had a shitfit in the board room.
At least someone at Square knows what they're doing.
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>>719573174
You already admitted you're aware of the story because you tried to cope and say it was about 1.0. So you don't need a source, you've already seen it. But here you go.
https://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-xvi-moogle-art-mature-story-1850495302
>The development team was worried that the moogles would both be too difficult to create, and wouldn’t fit the feel of the world, but our Assistant Producer was like, “I don’t care, just put them in the game!”
>In the end, we took her advice and put one in the game but it was a lot more work than we expected.
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I like the setting of XIV. The Garleans were a decent threat. They should've gone the Organization XIII with the Ascians. The Shards are a good idea but poorly executed. The world looked like it was on the eve of the industrial revolution. Garlemald's steampunk fantasy aesthetic drew me in but died off after Stormblood.
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>>719573205
Next time play FFVI before you open your mouth, dogfucker.
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>>719573308
So you were sperging out about a single moogle and your article doesn't mention chocobos at all.
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>>719573278
They literally just took the XIV moogle and ported it over, and that was still a significant challenge for them.
Not a joke.
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>>719555891
i want to remind developers, that fans are also people too

i say that bad games and non constructive gayfaggotry can potentially demoralize players that they don't want to play games anymore and as a result developers could miss out on that next great player.
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>>719573437
Move those goalposts, faggot.
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I'm playing FFXIV right now actually and doing some dailies before I try to get more music rolls in sandoria, I love watching people eat shit to the elemental aoes in there.
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>>719573437
That's Dumpy, he lies a lot and spams threads to death when he doesn't get his way.
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>>719573390
Notice how it keeps failing to write the numerals?
You can notice a lot about these types.
They lie, they troll, and say anything off base they can in order to deflect any and all FFXVI critiques. If you say something about the game, you're saying something about Yoshida, which means you're saying something about them personally.

Yoshida is their pimp.
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>>719556732
He got told
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>>719573447
yeah but an intern spent like, 30 minutes applying the fur fuzz to it
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>>719573390
>>719573569
Quite probably the fucking dumbest attempt at a "gotcha" I've ever seen
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>>719573630
>accuse other people of not playing FFVI
>make a completely retarded post that proves you in fact did not play it
>post gachatranny shit and disengage
That's fucking embarrassing.
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>>719573525
You claimed there was an interview where they weren't going to add chocobos to the game
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>>719573701
>fall into "gachatranny's" pitfall of accusing everybody of being one person
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>>719573447
I believe you. I've seen what happens when they can't meet that challenge.
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>>719573203
>And a random hystorical woman not only got her way, she made it the whole theme at launch.
>Source, my retarded ass who actually has shit level logic comprehension.
Read you loud and clear, still calling bullshit.
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>>719573767
jesus christ how horrifying
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>>719573767
FUCK, I forgot this monstrosity existed.
What the absolute fuck were they thinking?
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>>719573861
Who hates koalas.
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>>719573767
Jesus fucking christ
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>>719573808
>hystorical
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>>719557576
Based
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Asians are weird because they act super “toxic”(which can be perceived as masculine energy) but only on and about video games.
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Notice how they are now deflecting to yet another FF game in order to avoid the point? It's literally all they can do.
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>>719572495
That's funny. Probably because Stranger of Paradise was based on 1, they put in 0 effort and it is the only action game with their brand that isn't garbage.
Imaging spending every waking move of the last 2 decades putting out garbage that pisses off millions of people that all tell you how much better a 100 kilobyte game is.
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>>719573962
Within every SEA man is an Ian Miles Cheong.
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>>719555891
>"I want to hear criticism!"
>Wuk Lamat is awful and Koji's replacement just hired her friend instead of a talented actress
>"Please don't criticize our game"
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>>719573939
Yes, im shitposting from a galaxy tablet. Spell checks a cunt.
Still doesn't make up for a outrageous claim followed by zero sources. I even quickly googled it, nothing came up.
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>>719574019
>they put in 0 effort
>100 kilobyte game
I need you to never speak about Jack's game ever again for getting both these points wrong.
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>>719573767
I thought it was pretty cute. The worst ones are the ones in tactics and FF12, like why are they brown and shit?
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>>719574084
prove koji's hires weren't his friends
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>>719574086
>zero sources
Blind and retarded kun? How confusing can this possibly be for you?
A woman producer is the only reason that one single Moogle is in the game.
This is very old news.

https://tech.yahoo.com/gaming/articles/final-fantasy-xvi-devs-almost-145514218.html
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>>719556213
Still an all timer
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>>719555891
God, YoshiP is such a bitch these days. Did he just let the hype get to his head and start sniffing his own farts?
>revitalise and re-release a god atrocious MMO as a serviceable but non-offensive WoW clone
>fans really get on board with the writing
>convince yourself that you are the best, make a shitty DMC clone mainline FF
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>>719574220
Koji has connections in the British theatre world?
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>>719574281
See Im actually educated and not some retard who struggled in highschool. I source my claims, you should try it. It won't stop you from being a genetic deadend but it will slightly justify that autistic arrogance. What that take you, 10 seconds? Kek.
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>>719574445
when making a claim of kate's VA hires being nepo hires, one must prove koji fox's weren't
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>>719574340
>make a shitty DMC clone mainline FF
I wish it was more like DMC. Different weapons, more combos, attacks not on long ass timers.
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>>719574048
I say the quiet part out loud.
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>>719574281
And it has fuck all to say about 6... fucking illiterate pottery.
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Good things that came out of FF XIV:

Bad things that came out of FF XIV: The fanbase, Yoshi P, the fanbase
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>>719574340
>Did he just let the hype get to his head and start sniffing his own farts?
He's been like that since ARR the problem is when Endwalker post patch and Dawntrail sucked ass, and FF16 was a bit of a flop, Yoshida didn't stop huffing his own farts.
It's one thing to huff your own farts if people are enjoying your game, it's another to keep being an egotistical fart sniffer when your game has gone down the toilet.
Which makes him completely insuffereable.
Just look at how he walked on at Gamescom in Germany, to promote a crossover timed event in FF14, who the fuck cares? But he's still acting like he's some superstar game dev, the guy lacks self-awareness.
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>>719555891
kwab
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>need to do 2nd walk for my coing before reset
Gee I sure can'r wait to spend an hour in an alliance raid because the healers can't keep any of the dps alive during raidwides or stacks.
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>>719574478
Even if that was the case they wouldn't be nepo hires because they're actually good at their job.
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>>719574456
>im shitposting from a galaxy tablet
>Im actually educated and not some retard
Hey shitposting retard, the article was already posted here
>>719573308
Why ya so desperate to defend FFXVI? Just because you like a dogshit game doesn't mean you have to embarrass yourself?

>>719574569
You have got to be ESL. You don't even understand what point you're making anymore do you? You'll say anything to deflect from XVI.
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>>719574143
Stand corrected. Final Fantasy is 256KB.
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>>719574603
>they wouldn't be nepo hires because they're actually good at their job.
that's not how nepo hires work
they don't cease to be nepo hires because you liked the outcome
you a bitch-ass nigga is what you are
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>>719555891
He's always apologizing instead of actually fixing stuff nowadays
Then falls back on the we don't have enough staff, despite being one of the biggest gaming companies around with more than enough budget. It's because they don't want to hire non-japanese because of communication issues, they admitted this.
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>>719574340
How is saying "stop harassing my employees" a bitch move?
That's just basic being a boss shit. No one wants to deal with Karens.
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>>719574595
So being quiet means you don’t have an issue with something? That’s demonstrably not true
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>>719572495
Your post was so correct, it buttblasted some XVI fag into oblivion and he confused "XVI" and "VI" because his eyeballs were vibrating from the anal anguish.

Good job.
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>>719574694
>It's because they don't want to hire non-japanese because of communication issues, they admitted this.
MMO experience is the bigger hurdle, that industry effectively doesn't exist in Japan.
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>>719574694
He's not even apologzing anymore. They're moved on to the western way of doing things which is pretend everything is fine and then, when confronted with evidence that it's not, accuse those critiquing you of harrasment so you don't have to do any work.
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>>719555891
Yoshi-P dropped a massive TRVTHNVKE and this whole thread is full of selfish entitled chuddies jerking eachother off
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>>719556732
people went and told him they do not like wuk lamat
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>16 different FF games
>Half of them don't even have crystals
>Some even have the plot of "Thing we enjoy is actually bad"
>One decides to go "Crystals bad'
>Severe autistic meltdowns on /v/ that lasts years.
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>>719571891
doxxing is using real world to bully people. You actually just proved his point.
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Weird how this only started when people criticized W*k
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>>719574949
ummmm *snort* actually it's a denouncement of every previous final fantasy game
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>>719574706
>criticism and harsh words = harassment
Definitely a bitch move.
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>>719574870
XVI fags will say anything, literally anything, to deflect from arguments and points.

Nothing is sacred. No accusation, misdirection, or deflection is off the table.

>>719574949
Yep, deflect to another game. You have no argument, you have no recourse.
You know the theme of the game is dog shit. You know there is no narrative/gameplay integration. All you folks ever do is grasp at straws and muddy the water.
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>>719574949
I don't even know wtf you're talking about. I'm not made about fucking crystals I'm mad at Yoshi P because DT sucks fucking ass.
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It's not even that Wuk Lamat was so bad, but after 5 patches of Zero's retarded meandering plot and no Bozja in EW, people were tired of the game being boring. Forked Tower being BA instead of CLL really didn't help.
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>>719574785
Hell it doesn't have to be mmo experience though, they could hire a buncha people who's job is to just make/update the models of gear for the graphics update. They still haven't even dented 5% of gear in the game with graphics update / 2 dyes feature yet despite starting it over a year ago.
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yoshi p is just a pr guy, he doesnt even work on the game anymore because he's in the SE mines working on several other dead on arrival slop projects
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>>719559241
Are you deeply, fully, 100% fucking retarded
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>>719574949
>He thinks there are only 16 FF games
Ho Ho Ho
it is at least 72 games
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>>719575159
They want long-term developers, not model farms.
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>>719575204
Feeling called out, XIV tranny?
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>>719575095
The game was mid at best. The ending ruined all fun from the game and the combat got boring halfway in. And even though advertised as some big political intrigue plot, it drops all of that after the timeskip and relegates it to images of a map.
But you're still having a daily meltdown about it though.
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>>719575330
no
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>>719559241
>His nickname was given to him by homosexuals who think he's a gangster/rockstar
It just stands for producer. He's not even the only Yoship in Japan
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>>719574143
Honestly, they should end XIV now by having you log into the game to an unskippable cutscene of Jack beating up your character. And if you are anything but a human male, it's especially brutal. I want to see modbeasts seething how their super unique au ra and cat girls were pulverised by "SOME RANDOM FUCKING GUY, I'M DARKTEAR SLASHVIPER / MIYUKI DREAMNIGGA GOD DAMN IT, THE WARRIOR OF LIGHT"
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>>719575358
>The ending ruined all fun from the game and the combat got boring halfway in
It's shitty. It's really, really bad. Systemically.
>daily meltdown
Do you defend XVI daily? Why do you see people criticizing XVI every day?.
This is a XIV thread by the way, and because I said the theme of XVI is subversive dogshit that puts a hole in the entire games production, people are leaping to deflect and talk about any other game in the sun other than Yoshida's game.
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Make a new yoshitpiss thread please, I'm not done yet.
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>>719559241
Damn bro what did YoshiP ever do to you? Did you get banned in XIV years ago or something?
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>>719575452
I know what P stands for.
Why do you call him that, exactly?
Nobody calls Yoshinori Kitase "Yoshi-P".
What's it about if it isn't fans pretending the developer is cooler than they really are?
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>>719575605
daily special-ed "tantrum corner" thread
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>>719575247
They're understaffed in general yet are being picky about it. Having long term developers working on being model farmers. Like they're not helping themselves out at all
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>>719575159
This pretty much. Development doesn't happen in a vaccum and people working on scripting or dialogue aren't the same people doing art assets. Every other fucking game dev on the planet has been outsourcing shit like this for a decade too. You cannot convince me hats on Viera needed over 5 fucking years to cook just because it wasn't a "main priority" when one tranny in a basement has been able to mod in this shit in like a month.
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>>719575629
YoshiP is cool. He's a creative icon.

Yoshitpiss is not. He's a creative hack.
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>>719555891
>1.5 more years on Dawnfail
No sorry you deserve criticism
>Can't even level tanks fast anymore because of content bottleneck
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>>719575660
It's about Japanese people wanting to use as few keystrokes as possible when they bitch about his game.
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>>719575771
>time ghosts are good now if that means I get to shit on Yoshida
Jesus
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>>719574706
Because he does what every other online bitch dev does.
>Here's 10,000 fair criticisms of my game
>Etooo... nanda... aha, YATA! Here's 100 people calling me a nigger faggot, now I have an excuse to not respond to criticism because some people are being abusive!
The MSQ made up for the steady decline of the game but now it doesn't even have that.
He won't man up and talk about the game's actual problems, the nearest he ever gets is
>Some people think classes are too samey, but we are doing this intentionally for future reworks, please wait for another patch 2 years from now
And empty platitudes like that. All whilst shoving more and more shit into the cash shop every few weeks, whilst putting less and less content into the actual game. And these were the problems that existed BEFORE the absolute shitshow that was Dawntrail
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>>719575629
There's a running theory in some FFXIV threads that most or all of the supremely dedicated hate-cultists for the game are RMT gil farmers and botters who are mad they have to "settle" for FFXIV because there's no room to get in on RMT in other games, and FFXIV is one of the least profitable games to do RMT in because of gil's obscenely low value. It would be a similar phenomenon to the hate-cultists for other online games like Team Fortress 2 or Titanfall who try to sell the narrative they're spamming the game to death by making it as unpleasant as possible and rage the absolute fuck out if any kind of anticheat or direct developer/publisher action manages to stomp them out. P.S. apparently at least one of Team Fortress 2's hate-cultists and bot farmers is a CP hoarding brony who is now incarcerated for public masturbation at a library.
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>>719575867
What do you think that rant in the 7.3 live letter was about if not listening to feedback?
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>>719575156
I have no idea what you are trying to say with this
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I'm convinced there are only a few people on this website. I've seen the same Kitase glazing and Yoshitposting thousands of times at this point
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I really don't understand why people want to see ff14 fail. It will not make <insert your favorite game here> more popular or successful.
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>>719575981
I don't know, I checked out after DT's first patch and nothing my still-subscribed friends have told me has made me want to come back. What happened in the LL?
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>>719576021
strawmanning daily tard rage as actually being gentle, well-meaning criticism and "harsh words"
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Once this game's story is absolutely done for and enters maintenance mode, the game will die.
There is literally nothing holding these game's horribly flawed mechanics and design together besides the MSQ, that's the entire reason everyone still cares about this game, FF14 has one of the least sustainable long term plans ive ever seen in a game. You won't see people coming back to this game the same way you see people going back to WOW, Runescape, FF11 etc in 10 years or so because the gameplay is simply not good, and when that time comes the community will probably just bend over and accept that the game where they wasted time and money for the last 20 or so years is over and done for, for good.
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>>719555891
Translation: We can't fire Kate so please stop bullying us
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>>719575159
I honestly do not know which is the before and which is the after, and I'm not an XIV hater. I'm assuming left is before and right is after? (Since that's typically how these are presented) right?
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>>719576152
"Kate is untouchable" is an astoundingly westoid train of thought
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>>719557861
You're right but it requires wisdom to see it.
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>>719575808
>>Can't even level tanks fast anymore because of content bottleneck
It's miserable to level anything from 90-100 unless you want to just spam pelupeli quests because the queue times for all DT content is miserable. No one wants to fucking do it.
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>>719576085
Not spoonfeeding. He's done interviews as well about the plan going forward. You can go find them.
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>>719575768
>3rd most played race in the game
>It wasn't a priority to give them hats apparently
but hey they spent 2 patches fixing au ra graphics update horns lol
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>>719576125
>FF14 has one of the least sustainable long term plans ive ever seen in a game. You won't see people coming back to this game the same way you see people going back to WOW, Runescape, FF11 etc in 10 years or so because the gameplay is simply not good
TRVTH NVKE
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>>719576169
After is on the left, it's shinier and more of a steel color. Pic is from when they were showcasing the updated materials in an alpha or beta state before Dawntrail released.
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>>719576152
why not tough? she's not doing a great job
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>>719576095
So saying Yoshida is a hack means I am Hitler?
Okay cool, I'm Hitler now
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>>719576169
The left ones new there for that example. They were showcasing how metal textures now reflect light instead of being fake-shiny
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>>719576095
OP's image says "harsh words and (non-constructive) criticism". It doesn't mention harassment.
If those are Yoshi P's words, he's saying "don't be mean about our bad games or we won't make anymore" which is a bitch. move.
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>>719576234
I've been using Frontline Roulette since EW. Very basic no brain stuff.
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>>719576458
You'd be an excellent politician the way you clearly understand what is being said but skirt just shy of the actual point.
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>>719576517
>the actual point is the way I choose to contextualize his words, relying on what he actually said is wrong
Maybe he should choose his words better instead of being a little bitch, then.
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>>719576642
the actual point is not misrepresenting what he says and arguing with your misrepresentation

better yet go find yoshida at pax east and deliver harsh words and criticism to him there instead of arguing with him by proxy in a dying 4chan thread
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>>719576461
Yeah, and like I said there are beast tribes too. There's plenty of ways to level just not a single good way that actually involves new content. You can't even level in Occult Cresent for fucks sake. The myriad ways they managed to fucking ruin this expac is amazin.
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>>719576713
>You can't even level in Occult Cresent for fucks sake
Just like the Stormblood the best expansion amiright
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>>719576713
>You can't even level in Occult Cresent for fucks sake.
Of course not, the zone is there to keep you busy, not level you up. Eureka did the same.
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>>719569341
>crosses the line and makes you a sociopath
It's quite literally terrorism, it's the literal definition of what terrorism means, making yourself terrorized of portraying your opinion in a public space without fearing for your life, because if only was contained in an online space it would be a lesser thing than what they really did of harassing people in real life and even try to kill them.
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>>719576768
>>719576778
Eureka sucks. We had Bozja and then took a running leap backwards from that off a fucking cliff.
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>>719559285
the ridicule will continue until final fantasy is good again.
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>>719576690
>the actual point is not misrepresenting what he says and arguing with your misrepresentation
He's misrepresenting himself. If he means harassment, he should say it's harassment. Otherwise he sounds like a
WHINY BITCH
>don't discuss a developer in a thread about that developer
No, Mr Criticism Police, I think I will continue to do so.
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>>719577097
>He's misrepresenting himself
Damn... nigga won't even take responsibility for his own posting

What is this phenomenon where everything is Yoshida's fault, even personal behavior not immediately related to Yoshida



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