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>your basic attacks do 0 damage outside of your combo finisher
>you can't advance your combo unless you're specifically hitting an enemy
>you can't swing at whatever you like, you HAVE to swing at an enemy the game's hand picked for you and more often than not it'll pick some piece of shit completely off screen even if you're right next to an enemy that you want to hit and have the camera facing it
And don't even get me started on the way the menu completely fucks over all strategy - want to use magic or items without resorting to shortcuts, which you only get 3 of? Well too bad cause we made sure to make that as much of a pain in the ass as possible since the jump button is also the cancel out of sub menus button, and any time you select a command the game auto defaults back to Attack.
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I'm sure there's a lot of shit you could say about Kingdom Hearts 1.
But it is the one in the franchise where it's LEAST true that your keyblade swings do jack shit.
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are you mentally challenged by chance?
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>>719558130
once again, the day i decided to start playing a random game, threads about it appear on /v/.
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>>719558230
its the one game where you straight up start one shotting enemies.
hell even the party members will start one shotting enemies
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>>719558130
It’s an RPG, anon. All those things are unlocked as you progress. Also, you can switch between lock-on targets very easily with the shoulder buttons.

You also don’t need more than 3 shortcuts, and even then, the magic and item menus remember what item you last had your cursor over.
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>>719558254
Given the current state of gaming, it's not too surprising.
It was also on sale last week for $20 off.
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>>719558254
KH has threads on /v/ every day, lil bro
You're not special
Now be a good boy and fill up the fridge, me and the rest of the CIA are getting hungry.
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>>719558130
Just play on easy mode bro…
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>>719558130
Everything you wrote is objectively and factually wrong. Quite impressive really.
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>>719558254
You're living in a false reality. We're all watching you.
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>>719558303
Really the only thing that's kind of convoluted is the mechanic that areora ignores a lot of Invinicibility mechanics.
Like it's how you're intended to hit wizards while they're doing their thunder attack.
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>>719558420
The thing about RPGs usually is that they don't feel like shit to play before you've unlocked the "make the controls good" ability, you just get spells that do more damage or something.
As for not needing more than 3 shortcuts, the game has an enemy type with elemental weaknesses which you'll want to exploit, and Thunder for crowd damage, and Gravity for crowd control, and Cure for quick healing, and that's just for the first five levels.
3 is absolutely not enough.
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she looks like a monkey and thats cute

if this uploads without a transparent background im gona kill myself
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>>719559012
You gonna live stream it?
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>>719559109
in about 50 years yeah
i'll keep you updated
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>>719558130
>>your basic attacks do 0 damage outside of your combo finisher
Patently bullshit, physical attacks can hit the damage cap for numerous bosses and are your go to attacks. They're supplementary for regular enemies, you're not supposed to shit out damage, the point of melee is being a resource-free but weaker and less safe source of damage
>>you can't advance your combo unless you're specifically hitting an enemy
https://kingdomhearts.fandom.com/wiki/Combo_Master
>>you can't swing at whatever you like, you HAVE to swing at an enemy the game's hand picked for you
That's wrong, you can turn off the auto-target, it's also not a flaw, there's no situation where you would want to flail at the air lmao
>And don't even get me started on the way the menu completely fucks over all strategy - want to use magic or items without resorting to shortcuts, which you only get 3 of? Well too bad cause we made sure to make that as much of a pain in the ass as possible
Skill issue, watch a good player fly through the menus in KH2 (which has more sub-menus)

>>719558230
>it's LEAST true that your keyblade swings do jack shit
That applies to more KH games than it doesn't (thanks to Osaka team), but KH1 isn't one of them. Nor is 2.
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>>719559209
To be clear, I mean that melee is shit in Re:CoM, BBS, DDD, 0.2, and 3 to a lesser extent. But it's good in 1 and 2.
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>>719558303
Party members are insanely strong in KH1, even stronger than Sora in some cases, but you can’t one shot EVERYTHING. There’s a damage cap in the game, and once you hit it, your stats stop mattering until you hit an enemy with a higher damage cap.

>>719558943
That just means you have to choose which elements you want to prioritise, which is strategy in of itself. It’s not like enemies have only one way to beat them.
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>>719558130
You may have brain damage
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>>719558130
I played the demo of the 3ds one. It wasn't super great. I remember the combat being kind of slow and sluggish.
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>>719559365
All the KH games made after 2 were developed by a different team. The first three games (GBA version of CoM) are have fun combat, later ones were they went with the Command Deck like Dream Drop Distance, not so much.
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>>719559209
>Combo Master (コンボマスター, Konbo Masutā?) is an ability that appears in Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix and Kingdom Hearts Re:coded.
Thanks for nothing retard.
>there's no situation where you would want to flail at the air lmao
Ok but there might be a situation where I want to hit the monkey right in front of me rather than the flying black mage guy behind me - an attack which will most likely whiff since that enemy is just darting around everywhere - but of course I'm at the whims of the game on that front.
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>>719559324
>you can’t one shot EVERYTHING. There’s a damage cap in the game
Small correction, there's numerous damage caps (individual for different enemies), and percentage based attacks like Gravity and Proud Roar Lv.5 bypass them for regular enemies. You can't one shot bosses though.
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>>719559568
Combo Master appears in KH1 FM though. KH2 actually doesn’t have Combo Master even in its FM version.
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>>719559568
Not him, but I never had trouble hitting anything in KH1 without using the lock-on. Do you not know how to jump and just aim your strikes so they connect?
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>>719559568
>Thanks for nothing
Did you forget to read the page? It's also a barely relevant issue even if they never added it to KH1.
>Ok but there might be a situation where I want to hit the monkey right in front of me rather than the flying black mage guy behind me
The lock-on will default to the enemy in front of you, unless it's a hard lock-on, which you can change manually.
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>>719559707
anon, it DOES have combo master in 2 fm
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>>719559707
Yes it does, beating Roxas unlocks it by memory and I haven't replayed the game in like 4 years.
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did you play on an emulator, using a keyboard? if you're playing on controller, you should just get used to it as you play
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>>719559707
2fm is literally where combo master made its first debut
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>>719559884
anon... 1FM came out before 2 and 2FM
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>>719559665
Gravity and Proud Roar are exceptions, but even they have their limits. Also, while you can’t technically one shot bosses, you can spam Stop on the majority of them and basically combo them to death before they have a chance to attack as long as you have enough MP, which is effectively the same thing as a one shot.
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>>719558130
>your basic attacks do 0 damage
This is Kingdom Hearts, not Tales.
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>>719558130
>Complaining about a 23 year old game
TODAY ON A NEW EPISODE OF: ZOOMERS BITCHING
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>>719560017
erm anon dot dot dot, it wasnt in the original final mix release of the first game
it was added in in the 1.5 release, along with the exp zero ability dot dot dot
erm cringe!!!
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>>719558778
>Like it's how you're intended to hit wizards while they're doing their thunder attack.
What the fuck I wish I realized this
I did see how broken the spell is at allowing you to get away with dumb strats on bosses but didn't know it allowed you to hit invincible enemies.
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>nooo the soft lock on is fine
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>>719560434
anon, you are a retard for using soft lock

use the blue hard lock like everryone else
>noooo softlock acts exactly how it was designed to! im not gona use the mechanic purposely made to solve the faults of soft lock!!!!
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>>719560434
Why wouldn’t you just use the hard lock-on?

That’s on you if you screw up something the game teaches you about in the tutorial.
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>>719560434
how are you actually this retarded?
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>>719560556
Not defending him being a retard but on my second playthrough I found myself prefering to not use hard lock a lot of the time compared to my first playthrough. Felt like both had their situations.
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>>719558130
>>you can't swing at whatever you like, you HAVE to swing at an enemy the game's hand picked for you
That's incorrect for KH1. You can completely turn off any assist and (soft) lock-ons in that regard. Most people will keep them on or use manual lock on to make keeping combos easier.
Did you go blindly into FM's Proud mode and you are getting wrecked early on? You either gitgut or you grind some levels.
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>>719558254
We're here for you, anon. ALWAYS AND FOREVER
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>>719560556
Because I want to be able to hit both legs since they're separate targets?
And how is it on me that I have to play around the game's shitty lock on? If there's a hard lock on why would the soft lock on go out of its way to stay on the shittiest target imaginable?
Even if I had decided to use the hard lock once I realized what was happening what would that accomplish? I'd be hard locked on the monkey and have to manually switch between a billion other targets, likely landing on every single monkey before the legs, and get fucked anyway.
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>>719560720
You’re right, they do, but the soft lock on does require some specific movement and positioning to be most effective. The hard lock on is an ideal crutch for most first time players.
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GOAT game
Nomura is the man
Let him finish a damn game
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>>719560803
brother you are a magnum doofus
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>>719560803
So, position yourself to face the legs. Also, you can hit multiple targets with the base finisher even with the hard lock-on.
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>>719560838
I’m still not over Versus XIII. Imagine the KH1 and 2 team working on an FF game.
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the only mechanic in this game that genuinely tilted me a little on replay was the revenge mechanic where certain bosses just get to hit you for free when you've attacked them enough unless you do some janky obtuse bullshit. Went against every action game instinct I have and felt like I was doing something wrong trying to fights without taking damage until I looked up what was happening.

It kinda makes sense in a way as an action RPG where they want to make you engage with the RPG mechanics and not just skill your way through everything while ignoring them but still
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>>719560803
Just turn off the lock on and strike normally. It's not that hard.
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>>719558130
>basic attacks do very little damage
>builds up meter for special attack
Kino JARPG mechanics
Might have to play it after all...even with the Disney cringe
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Kingdom Hearts is actually the best action RPG ever made.
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>>719558130
Yeah it's a game for real niggas you wouldn't understand whitey
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>>719560965
How much more facing do I need to do than this??
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>>719560434
>no magic
>doesn't rotate camera
>never presses L2 to switch targets
I will never take any bad opinions about KH combat seriously. They never understand how to play
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>>719561941
>no magic
Ah yes as you can see by my extremely filled up MP bar I am very conservative with magic use.
>doesn't rotate camera
What finger am I supposed to do that with if I'm using the face buttons?
>never presses L2 to switch targets
That doesn't work with the soft lock on, but even if it did the target it switches to would have been a crap shoot.
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>>719561692
buh buh buh based
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>>719561692
is that a PSP
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>>719562934
And redpilled
/v/ is too afraid to address the (((whitoid))) question and challenge the status quo
Buncha normies infesting this site now
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>>719561692
Are you watching Futurama? That looks like Leela's boots
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>>719563036
Steam deck

>>719563195
Kek yes when I took the pic I was watching futurama
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>>719563327
do one thing at a time.
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>>719563691
Why
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>>719563802
because you'll appreciate them more that way, and miss less
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>>719563883
>implying anything is being missed watching futurama
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>>719558130
>he doesn't spam magic for max dps until halloweentown
Not my fault you're playing the game wrong
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>>719563883
I played KH in 2002 and I've already seen Futurama a billion times. I'm only replaying KH cause I have nothing to play until SS Thursday.
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>>719560434
The correct way to fight any version of this heartless armor boss is to use the hard lock and then press the trigger buttons to swap targets mid combo. If you get lucky with position, you can hit all the pieces of the armor together with your attack combos so they die more or less at the same time
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>>719558130
always has been.
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>>719564034
using magic is lame though

TAKE SWORD

SACRIFICE STAFF
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>>719564034
For like the whole game. Magic rapes melee for everything that isn't bosses.
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>>719564251
You're playing it wrong.

Donald does magic. (staff)

Goofy does support and tanks. (shield)

Sora is the offense (sword)
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>>719564034
Staff start and then rushing Olympus Coliseum for Thunder trivializes the first several worlds. It's pretty great.
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>>719564214
NEVER DROP STAFF, AP IS IMPORTANT
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>>719564352
Yeah, but pure melee is gay. Spellswords are the best kind of playstyle.
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>>719558130
Yes it is terrible, so why did you make a thread on it
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>>719564760
>>719564685
Way more badass to just beat the fuck out of everything with strength and skill
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Just level Donald until he gets MP Haste and then have him overkill entire groups of enemies the moment they show up.
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>>719564967
dropping staff takes away ap tho, you can use the ap to smack stuff better!
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>>719565079
But the sword/shield/staff thing is a personality test, same as the rest of the KH intro
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>>719559508
The DS game Re:Coded had the best command deck system out of all of them. DDD was a downgrade in comparison
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>>719565354
Only played the HD collection so never touched it. If it plays well though I'll add it to my backlog.
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>pick sword to get all those combo modifier abilities ASAP
>get to Atlantica and they're all removed for underwater combat
Never again
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>>719565158
Iirc the only thing you can get from the weapon pick at the start they you can't ever get another way is a bonus MP from picking staff. Everything else can be made back up for later but you can never get that off MP back.
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>>719566053
I never used MP anyway except for Heal, and sometimes to shoot fireballs at flying bastards that kept escaping my sword
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>>719558130
these are all good things. kingdom hearts is the best video game of all time
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The most retarded part of Kingdom Hearts is the impact of the opening on your leveling.

Basically it comes to this
>be severely underleveled the entire game because you won't be playing enough to value those sped up 50-99 levels
>be underleveled the entire game but have the ability to grind your way out easily
>be properly leveled throughout the entire game, only being punished at the very end with slow leveling when you are already overleveled
If you pick anything but the last, you're gonna have a bad time in the Jungle and Atlantis, especially if you picked Expert difficulty.
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>>719558130
You were supposed to pick the wand at the start for the magic build and spam light jump hops + Graviga.
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>>719565079
It takes away MP if you don't go wand which makes a lot of difference in this game.
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>>719566989
it doesnt take away mp if you drop staff. it only takes away AP

picking staff gives MP, but dropping it wont take away any MP. yes it is confusing
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>>719558130
You can advance your combo without hitting an enemy when you get combo master I believe. But I think that's only in final mix.
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>>719558130
wow did you copy-paste this from steam discussion? this post is that retarded
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tinker bell and aeroga trivialize this game so hard even with level 1 enabled.

needed a critical mode
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>>719558943
3 is fine, not as good as 4 but it's fine. I understand why they did it, so that you can always jump and use shortcuts at the same time, but 4 is nice. Just git gud at scrolling the menu. The cursor also remembers your last place so you functionally have 4 shortcuts.
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>>719567286
Almost all the games have 1-2 mechanics that make the game a cake walk even on the hardest difficulty, but people rarely use them or experiment.
The amount of busted summons and magic in KH1, summons and limits in KH2, stop sleights in COM, fusable commands with low cooldowns in BBS, you can go on and on.
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>>719560434
The return of cheesefag
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>>719567286
When I played KH1 as a kid, Simba's summon crashed the game every single time. I never used a single summon throughout the entire rest of the game, even to this day I avoid summoning anything.
Still makes me laugh in KH2 when Simba and Sora act like old friends.
>bitch you froze my game, i never got to meet you...
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>>719558130
Nigger, I played and beat KH1 on ps2 when I was 12. There was no camera movement with the right stick at the time and you had to use L2 and R2 to only move the camera left and right.
>>719561941
>I will never take any bad opinions about KH combat seriously. They never understand how to play
You can apply this to EVERY game. A lot of people suck ass at playing video games. There's been a ton of threads for games I've played and people will call it shit but also make it very obvious they don't know how to play the game. 9 times out of 10, it's just a skill issue



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