What's the biggest retcon in videogame history?
>>719561539I dunno, maybe that Metal Gear 1 Big Boss is actually Venom Snake.
>>719561539lmao
Huh, this was basically a Dallas shower moment wasn't it?
>>719561539 Probably the entire Zelda timeline. Nintendo themselves had no clue what was going on and just threw together that Hyrule Historia nonsense years later to pretend it was all planned. Now we’ve got like three timelines, time travel, alternate dimensions, and somehow Tingle still exists in all of them.
>liquid was never actually abused by big boss, a body double just beat him up a couple of times because liquid was trying to kill himIt ruins mgs1 so much. Kojima loved burning his previous games post 3
>>719562769because Tingle is the most powerful being in the Zelda universe. He is inevitable.
>>719561539And it's not even close.
>>719561539Is it true MGS3 Delta remake removes Eva's boobies? Gay if true. I bet it also removes Colonel Volgin's rapey behavior towards Naked Snake, which is also kind of gay. Snake feeling raped by Volgin wasn't mindless woke DEI garbage with no real purpose, it was crucial to Snake's character development particularly in his decision to leave the army and go rogue after MGS3. He had enough
>>719563179>>719561792Yeah these two come to mind.
>>719562769People who can't understand simple continuity are retarded.It only turned into a clusterfuck with TotK because it recycled old terms like "the imprisoning war" but in a completely unrelated context, and it ignored everything that happened in BotW.
>>719561539Humans aren't forerunner in Halo was the biggest crock of shit.
>>719562931explain?
>>719563390Osiris and Saint-14 from Destiny. Two oldfags who considered each other brothers retconned into literal fags
>>719563179NIPPLE!
>>719563491lol
>>719563354Everything forerunner related in Halo 4 and onwards is retarded.
Mario and Peach being good friends.
>>719563491Eh. Hardly counts. Could just have been developed feelings or figure of speech up until dicking.
>>719561539Based Dallasposter!
>>719561539>>719565315No one on this shitty board knows what Dallas was.
>>719564421It does count because they where battle brothers, they where turned into faggots when a literal fanfiction writer was brought on as the head writer and made his fic canon.The only saving grace is that this isn't the heroic Saint 14, its some other Saint plucked from a timeline.
>>719565868Plenty probably know about the infamous "dream season" retcon that OP is alluding to though.
>>719564421No it wasn't. It was literally done by a single faggot writer who could not understand male comradery between brothers in arms. https://youtu.be/-bjl7RiAR9c?si=jUZ8bI0-Ie7swIdL&t=41
>>719561539celeste being a tranny
>>719561539Testament being a tranny.Guilty Gear character. Wasn't one before.
>>719566284Testament but not bridget?
Has to be the constant retcons everytime a new ES games comes out post-Morrowind.Most notably, Cyrodiil not being a tropical jungle, Skyrim not being mostly a frozen savage land, etc.
>>719561539For me it's everything big boss says after he shows up at the cemetery and talks to snake.
>>719561539Doom IMO.Original doom2 manual had him as some random marine watching nudie flicks on his way back to earth from mars after the events in doom 1.In the newer games.. I don’t even know. Just whackadoodle space god magic.
>>719568889But that wasn’t really a retcon wasn’t it? Doom slayer was still a relatively normal dude until he stayed in hell for a thousand years after doom 64
>>719563350>>719562769The smartest thing they could've done was to say that anytime something is said that gets the details from another game wrong, it's because the telling of the legend/myth got some details wrong over time.I mean they still release a new Historia every few years and retcon something.They're not even written well, they always get something wrong. Like the one time they swapped Darunia's and Nabooru powers
>>719561539Half-life 2's cast being turned into these lifelong friends of Gordon Freeman when they were just disposable nobodies in the first game.
>>719562769>Nintendo themselves had no clue what was going onThe only people that say this shit are zoomers with no memories of the 90s. As early as fucking Link to the Past Miyamoto himself would openly talk about where the games took place in relation to each other and we always knew Zelda 64/Ocarina of Time was the earliest game until Skyward Sword. Even Twilight Princess got as specific as "takes place a century after Majora's Mask" from Aonuma.The only real curveball was the the hero dies timeline.
>>719566164>developper mind collapsed>changed story of past creation>to normalize his mind health issue
>>719562809Metal Gear as a whole is a victim of that post-Star Wars prequel obsession that everything has to be related to everything instead of a big ass world where things could happen independently of each other.Most of MGS1 and 2's cast were just unique entities and then by MGS3 and MGS4 the Patriots were all Big Boss's old crew, EVA became the mother of the Big Boss clones, Naked Snake personally knew Roy Campbell and Master Miller, SIGINT was the DARPA chief, Liquid Snake and Psycho Mantis knew each other as children, etc., etc. etc.Like the entire universe warps to Big Boss's gravity.
>>719561539not one retcon per se but every new fallout related thing that come out take a big shit on established lore
>>719563491>>719566021Basically pic related then.
>>719561539Forerunners being aliens rather than being past humans like had been outright stated up until 343i took control.>>719563354>>719564226Yes!I hate 343i so much it's unreal.
>>719569720>>719568889New Doom is pretty weird, the tone is different and all those space marines LARPing is just dumb.Nobody complained that much in 2016 so they heavily leaned into it with Eternal and the DLC was retarded too.Dunno about Dark Ages, didn't touch that game
>>719569949They just said "it's set around this time" but it didn't make much sense which is what led to timeline discussions.They never thought about it further than that and it shows. They should've never acknowledged it.How many books did they release by now?
>>719561539Final Fantasy 8 did this within the same game>We met each other as kids in an orphanage, remember?>Oh, we don't, but that's because summoning magic makes you forget shit>No, amnesia shit will not be relevant to the plot in ANY other way, it's just to pull this orphanage shit outta our ass.
>>719570691Yeah.. but it IS doom at the end of the day, it’s like complaining about the plot in a porn.
>>719570705That's a recurring japanese trope that shows up in fucking everything.Main characters all met as kids and then "forgot about it" only to meet up years anyway.
>>719563291Non of that is true. Evas boobs are still in full display and so are the buttons to stare at them as snake. Also volgin is still a creepy rape dude
>>719570705and of course>but wait one of us didn't use GFs until a week ago why didn't you say anything?>u-u-uhhhh well we all got along so well I didn't see the need to bring it up ha ha ha...
>Tekken>Kazuya is born and causes his mom to die giving birth to him>this causes Heihachi to resent him and even throw him off a cliff to make him prove himself>Kazuya survives the cliff and makes a deal with the literal Devil to become stronger in exchange for his soul(or his good side) so he can defeat his corrupted father>In Tekken 2 Heihachi defeats Kazuya who transforms into Devil and throws him into a volcano because he's fucking SatanInstead it got retconned to >lol devil GENE>Kazuya's mom died from Heihachi because she possessed the devil gene, and Heihachi was always a good guy until he turned rotten after being forced to kill his wife>throws Kazuya off a cliff to....kill his devil side? I don't fucking know
>>719561539Zoomers unironically think we called the Ps1 "PEE ESS ECKS" in real life instead of "playstation" or "PEE ESS WON" after the PS2 came out. They conflate spoken speech with written speech and base their assumption on old rom sites and forums having people type out PSX.
>>719570563Pretty much. The worst part is how before the retcon, they were both easily two of the best characters in the whole game, with entire updates lore books dedicated to both of their exploits. Then after the retcon, they just became the token gay couple with literally anything even mentioning them reminding you that they packed each other's fudge. Only exception was that time Saint felt bad about killing a genocidal race of alien pirates who ate human children because muh refugees or some retarded shit.
>>719571662>Zoomers unironically think we called the Ps1 "PEE ESS ECKS" in real lifeI mean, I did.It was called that by the time I got one.I only got 2 in like, 2004
Name a game and I can give you at least 10 major retcons.
>>719571907Damn, that sounds pretty grim. I'm glad I never got into Destiny.
Maybe not the biggest retcon, but a blatant and lazy one...In F2 Myron is the creator of Jet. There's dialogue about it, you can make a cure, it's not just a single line hidden away somewhere.In F4 it's stated that Jet existed before the world went to shit. This time it was just a line in a terminal, iirc, and there was no reason for it.Bethesda just don't give a shit.
>>719571635That's not even the worst thing about tekken. Jin starts a devastating world war that kills off a 1/4th of the world population....to lure out and try to kill a dragon or something and then no one cares.
>>719562769Bullshit, Link to the Past and then Ocarina were created to be prequels to entire story and then Majora and Wind Waker were created to be sequels to two different timelines created by Ocarina's ending, because former continues child Link story and latter has no Link at all.The only retcon was creating the third "defeated hero" timeline and also trying to fit every Zelda game on that list even though many of them were clearly standalone entries.
>>719570691>it didn’t make much senseIt did make sense. In the west, lots of interviews weren't translated until later on and lots of Nintendo fans are really stupid to begin with (like you).
>>719572180Why are you being mean? Can't we just talk about retcons without name calling?
>>719563354>>719564226>>719570567this and its no contest
>>719563179Warcrafts nu lore is so fucked
>>719561539>UM AKSHUALLY THE STORK DELIVERED THE BABIES TO THE WRONG HOUSE LOL
>>719571161Truck kun is also a Japanese trope that shows up in everything. That doesn’t make it good you retarded weeb
>>719572643Honestly the bigger one is>Mario literally went back in time to protect his younger self disguised as a pipeIt's literally the most insane and unnecessary detail in a franchise that otherwise just dumps "lmao you suck at this game here's the cheat code powerup" boxes on you.
>>719572643>>719572803you forgot>Bowser went back in time to do the same
>big boss' support team was just as struck by the boss' death as him and proceeded to have an entire ideological war with him over her last words
>>719572050Be glad. Be very glad.
Resident Evil retconning how the T-Virus works. It went from reanimating the dead and creating zombies to the infected aren't dead and only the recently dead can be "reanimated" because the virus puts them in a state that mimics death.I love Code Veronica but that game fucked up the lore a bit
>>719572768Nobody is saying it's good you mongrelic abomination, just that it's a recurring thing in their media.
Remember when he was Ansem?
>>719571918>I mean, I did.Is this some faggy regional thing like calling soda "pop" or did you have a computer? If its the latter, then you probably got corrupted by reading those old rom sites and body building forums in real time.
>>719562769You don't know what you're talking about. For the most part the Hyrule Historia timeline aligned with what we already knew, like Minish Cap predating OoT, or were commonly accepted fan theories, like LttP Link being the same Link from the Oracle games and Link's Awakening. The only major curveball was there being a third timeline.
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>>719570332Things connecting is necessary for theming and drawing parallels. It’s why the Star Wars Prequels did it, and its why MGS did it.
>>719563179>as your boss kicks you out of your workplace for doing a shit job, sneak in a massive retcon that shits all over the gaming trilogy you spent decades developing and guaranteed to receive no follow upNgl that's impressively spitfeful
>>719573668Is it really a retcon if nothing in the earlier work contradicts said retcon?
>>719572076They needed an excuse for why it would be on the east coast.
>>719575262Soft retcon, same with the example OP started this topic with.
>nu God of war reconning Kratos into a giant pussy
>>719561539Like any retard zoomer in here would recognize this pic
>secretly orchestrates everything that has ever happened in your path
>>719575461>i have never played a god of war game but I must go on 4chan and bitch about something because my life is fucking sad
>>719571993Rock 'n' Roll Racing
(((343))) retconning the forerunners
>>719575671holy shit it's Better-Man
>>719574989is that loghain from dragon age?
>Thought to have killed M. Bison, Gouken(Ryu & Ken's Sensei) AND Gen.>Nope! They survived due to bullshit.
>>719575671Wow, an adhom from a tranny.>Kratos with enough of a rage boner he dragged himself out of proto-hell, chose death to make sure all cunt gods were all dead. Resurrects to become a cuck, let's a bunch of Norse faggots push him around instead of just stomping a mud hole in their heads cause he's afraid he'll set a bad example for the irritating bastard godling trolling around with him. Old Kratos would have ended the lot of them because all the gods are cunts. Like you.
>>719562769I honestly think Nintendo underestimated the level of autism they were dealing with. Like they though people would take it with a grain of salt with the obvious understanding that the games were never intended to fit together and the entire thing was just for fun.
>>719576645Yes. In Veilguard it was revealed Loghain was secretly manipulated behind-the-scenes by an enemy that's never been seen, mentioned, or even hinted at before. That's why the comparison was made to Jay'lor.
>>719576735Gouken surviving was so dumb. Akuma embracing the dark hado was supposed to be sinful and something Ryu should resist. But if Gouken is just fine, then what's the point? What is Ryu fighting for, fighting against? It doesn't matter.
>>719577068Because Americans can't into mythology. Same retards screech about the big two comics continuity problems.
>>719577246lmao its a good thing i haven't given a shit about anything bioware related since TOR or else that might have bothered me
>>719577068they brought it on themselves making WW and TP successors to OOT.All of a sudden people liked the idea of a continuity and this turned out to create the stupidest possible outcome with the 'downfall' timeline.
>>719561539MGS4
>>719576750Please keep your culture war shit somewhere else, faggot.
>>719577430>How do I make this about americansEU infinitely being bitch slapped by will smith
>>719561539The Last of Us, the doctor's room being clean and them definitely being capable of the cure, rather than it being ambiguous.
>>719577430>le AmericansYou fucking Euros need to shut the fuck up
>>719576750>Kratos with enough of a rage boner he dragged himself out of proto-hell, chose death to make sure all cunt gods were all dead.And what good did that do him?
>>719572638Which "nu lore" are you talking about? Every single Blizzard setting, from Day 1, has been built by retcons upon retcons upon retcons.And sometimes people don't even know what is retcon and what is established lore. For example, a bunch of people on here and other forums bitched and moaned how much of an ass-pull the Dragon Isles were....While in reality they're mentioned as early as Warcraft 1 and its manual.
>>719577839>ChatGPT response
>>719561539The FF7 Nibelheim scene being changed literally every time they make a new game. There's like 10 different versions of it now and all of them except the original one are retarded in some new and unique way.
>>719571662>Zoomers unironically think we called the Ps1 "PEE ESS ECKS" in real lifeThat's because people did call the PS1 as PSX, devs included.
>>719578196Is the Crisis Core version that retarded? From memory it's pretty much the same isn't it?
>>719578117Yes, apparently death cannot protect from masculinity hating radfems and low T faggots that think immortal gods should suffer mid life crisis self loathing like they do.
>>719578310>PlayStation comes out>everyone calls it PlayStation>PlayStation 2 comes out>everyone calls it the PS2>everyone calls the PlayStation the PS1>nobody ever, ever says PSX>be 20 years later>mongs call it the PSX because turbo autism?>also they like the prequelsAll of those lead paint chips you chewed in school are coming back to haunt you eh
Aerith's death will be it, no question, when they retcon it permanently in Reunion or whatever that gay bullshit will be called.
>>719578515If you are so stubborn that you can't acknowledge truth even in the face of mounting evidence then I have nothing more to say except that you're retarded.
>>719578362genesis interrupts it with like a 10 minute monologue
>>719578668>games journalists and bloggers called it PSXNobody said that shit out loud you fat gypsy
>>719578668PSX was used in publications but I've never once in my life heard anybody say PSX when talking about the Playstation. It was either Playstation, Playstation 1, or PS1. Maybe it was different in Europe but in America nobody verbally called it the PSX.
>>719578487Why do you act like the only type of masculinity is violence? What happened to stoicism?
>>719571907Oh christ I had forgotten this.So basically through out the entire franchise you've been fighting a faction known as the fallen, they work on a system based off different houses each with their own hiearachy.When earth was REALLY fucked, the fallen showed up and started fucking us even further and it took a lot of sacrifice to hold them back, Saint 14 was basically a gorilla nigga with the highest body count, killing them without mercy.Fast forward to D2, now there's fallen refugees, they're all scared of Saint because they've heard the stories and the entire thing tries to justify the fallen while Saint is somehow bad and should feel bad for defending his people from literal baby eating monsters.
>>719578871I'm English and nobody here said PSX. People would've looked at you like you were a moron if you .
>>719573764No nigger it was literally called the PSone.You read that on the console.
>>719572076Couldn't it just be two similar drugs that people called Jet?
>>719576143I mean a game from Blizzard.>But...Nope, they were still Silicon & Synapse at the time.Also, new rule, no Blackthorne.
>>719578758Did you even take a singular glance at the provided image? Developers also called it PSX.>>719578871>never once in my lifeAh, and whales also don't exist because I've never seen one with my eyes I guess. How could I have forgotten this flawless logic.I've used it when I was a kid, I've heard people around me use. I can tell with complete confidence that people did call it as PSX.I'm hungarian, so I don't know about other countries, especially the US.
>>719571662>>719578310It was very rarely called the psx back in the day. The reason calling it that picked up was because of emulators
>>719579176You mean like how everyone calls everything "fent"?
>>719561539>diablo 3 barb is no longer the diablo 2 barb
>>719578362actually, other than genesis showing up, there's some other stuff about CC that's kind of dumb.In the original, Zack runs into fight Sephiroth and gets tossed out like a sack of potatoes 5 seconds later. In CC it's a big, multi-stage boss fight before Zack finally barely loses. This kind of undermines the original point of the scene, where Sephiroth is meant to be genuinely unmatched in combat and Cloud gets the better of him twice because he has too much pride and hubris to ever accept a normal human as a threat. In CC it seems more like Zack wore him down and then Cloud snuck up on him while he was already weakened.
>>719579221Developers calling a console by its codename doesn't translate to actual people, zoomer.
>>719579221Do you also call the Nintendo Wii "Revolution"?
Gwyn actually being evil in Dark Souls. I didn't even play 3's DLC when I was spoiled on that plot point.
>>719578716Oh yeah of course he did, I forgot every other scene is him reading his faggy poetry.>>719579336Ahh yeah that's fair. I guess it would've been a bit anticlimactic to just have a fight where you can't win (like the final fight) but probably would've been much better to just show Sephiroth as destroying Zack.
>>719563179zesty motherfucker
>>719578170>It must be a bot, no one can have different opinions!!
>>719571635when was it ever established that Kazuya's mother died in childbirth?
>>719579360Maybe you should have read the other half of my post then.Look, maybe it was true for your country, but it wasn't true in mine. People used it, on the street, in game stores, period.Also I'm fairly certain that I'm older than you, judging by the way you seemingly jump into isults, but as I have no certainty, I'll leave it as is.>>719579423No, it was simply called "Wii".Do you think that calling one console anything is somehow a deep pattern on project names as opposed to simple word of mouth?What a weird question.
>>719571635>>719579664Here's another:>A major part of the setup for Tekken 3's timeskip is that Ogre, a powerful ancient warrior, kills Jun as she protected Jin from it, leading to Jin training under Heihachi for the rest of his childhood and informing basically all of Jin's actions for the rest of the series>Get to Tekken 8 where Jun finally returns in a non-Tag game>She doesn't appear in the story mode at all besides some visions/flashbacks>...except in a couple of scenes you unlock after beating Story that show that she not only fought Ogre to a standstill but had that fight occur in a special part of the forest that lulled her into a decades-long coma where nobody found her until she woke up right around the time 8's story ends
>>719572180>>719572180Explain to me why they keep retconning then.With BotW they just went "lmao who gives a shit, it just takes place after the other games" completely ignoring the timelines they established with the retarded books
>>719580009So she was just lying on the floor of some forest for years?
>>719562632Yeah. The episodes really fucked up HL2's perfect ending. They should have just put Gordon back on ice. We'd have HL4 by now if they had.
Witcher 3 changing the White Frost from a global ice age every world eventually goes through into an evil entity you can beat up
>>719572638Warcraft's lore has never been consistent and Blizzard always were incompetent with worldbuilding. WoW only exacerbated everything and retards bought it as greatest thing after sliced bread.>>719572076Worst of all is that Pete Hines openly wrote on Twitter that he doesn't care at all and it shouldn't matter, even though he was PR guy at the time.
>>719580210This is more of a book retcon than a vidya one
>>719574679didnt he go from demon to gay man who became a demon?
>>719575652He was just misunderstoodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIhAQzsQCDU
>>719580257How so? The novels have the elf dude explaining exactly that it's a non-magical ice age
>>719579791Nah you said PlayStation like everyone else did, but either your memory has failed you or you're larping and really are a zoomer. Next you'll say people called it a GCN out loud, because that's how it was referred to in magazines.
>>719580127Yup
>>719578878I don't. Also Kratos wasn't a stoic, nor is stoicism the only acceptable form of masculinity. >>719579635>Constant responses of unrelated milquetoast ad homs with AI tier focus on ignoring the fallacy or the primary argument.Sure you're not an AI?
>>719580009>decadesas I recall, there hasn't been 10 years since Ogre's attack on Jun, much less multiple decadesyou have a point about the rest of it, though
>>719572076He didn't "create" Jet though. He harvested fumes from cow dung and put it in an inhaler. He tells you himself the cow dung is special entirely because of a Pre-War protein fed to Pre-War cattle herds. That the cows are now radioactive, two headed mutants has nothing to do with it. He didn't do anything to the fumes, the brahmin or the protein, he just figured out what a safe dosage is.
>>719578117>And what good did that do him?Removed the gods, saved untold thousands if not millions from being tortured by the gods games in the future, returned himself to life, and gave the world a chance to recover
>>719580624He still reinvented it. Jet is still Myron's invention.
>>719580524Got the timeline between game releases and the games' events mixed up but yeah.
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>>719580873god i hate ME2 and the people who love it so fucking much
I don't even know where to start.
>>719580320I meant in the sense that's retconning the books instead of what the game established (I know Jacques de Aldenberg mentions the white frost in game 1, but W1 is pretty apart from 2 and 3 and also I don't think he says it's a natural phenomena)
>>719581836>I meant in the sense that's retconning the booksoh yeah sure
>>719561539charrs in guild wars 2 turning from literal dumb savages into a playable race that is well developed
>>719580873unironically dropped the entire series after playing with these things for 30 minutes
>>719581381Although I no longer care about this franchise, I think the retcon was a good thing for it.The dev actually tried to go for an "it was all a dream" approach with Fnaf 4.It's always eerie to see how often people repeat the errors of the old Dallas TV show>History repeating itselfalways seems like a fun phrase until it isn't.
>>719582093same. I tried like three times, play ME1, have fun and then just lose interest during ME2. never got to ME3
>>719580009>decades-long comaBro it's like 6 years between Tekken 3 and Tekken 8. Jun was also hiding for some unknown reason prior to T8, so I don't even think she was in a coma, she just was injured and then disappeared for a few years.
>>719561539Calling the Atari VCS, "Atari 2600" at posterioriAll the oldfags who had one remember it was called only VCS, but all the millenials call it 2600 in their youtube nostalgia about a past they didn't have.
>>719578995You structured your first reply in such a vague way that any reasonable person could construe it as an admission that you called the console PSX in real life. Read it again. Assuming everyone has the same context as you is a sign of autism.
>>719582449>Bro it's like 6 years between Tekken 3 and Tekken 8Kek nevermind, it's actually only 3 years.
>>719561539The entirety of Pikmin 4
>>719571662>Zoomers unironically think we called the Ps1 "PEE ESS ECKS" in real life instead of "playstation" or "PEE ESS WON" after the PS2 came out.Holy fuck, it's becoming more and more noticeable now that bearded mid-20's zoomers are becoming more visibile in sites with longform content. They're nerds, through and through, and some of the stuff they say is insightful, but I get a jolt every time they say PSX because it reminds me that they grew up entirely on the internet.
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Genshin Impact.>Version 2.4/5 introduces the forgotten Dragon Civilization and the fact there is a hierarchy of power amongst the gods; possessing knowledge of either will get you turned into a goblin by the Celestians>Version 4.x- everyone in Fontaine knows about Celestia and the Dragon Civilization.>Version 5.x- Dragons had hood culture.
>>719580873i probably don't get the reference but i'm already triggered by "CLIP"
>>719570563I have seen this quote about 20 times and I have looked an explanation on google 20 times and I re read it 20 times and I still do not understand precisely what he means
>>719580873It gets worse.
>>719563179Captain Grim's version of Jailer is way better.
>>719563491I left destiny 2 after shadowkeep, that must have been the best time to leave.
>>719572076It's a very lazy one because it shows how Bethesda is really uncreative.Is it really too much to ask to just have a different drug in 3 and 4?
>>719583874Actually yeah. Beyond Light was the tipping point for D2 in terms of unredeemable shit. Literally all downhill from there
>>719582138It fell entirely off the rails post 4. 4 wasn't an "it was all a dream" story it was only the events of 4 itself that took place in a somewhere between life and death feverdreamEverything post 4 is utterly ridiculous and asks you to accept that WIlliam Afton somehow opened and ran 4+ restaurants that not only went under almost immediately but had multiple high profile child disappearances/confirmed deaths in them and neverA. Ran out of moneyB. Suffered any damage to his reputation for running multiple restaurants where children were murdered
>>719583662It means exactly what it says anon. I can't even break it down for you because it's already broken down.
Kingdom Hearts runs on this and I fucking love it. >Ansem Seeker of Darkness wasnt Ansem from KH1 secret reports, Ansem actually stole his Master's name. >Ansem is an anagram for names so maybe this isn't a retcon...>Roxas and Xemnas came from Ansem>Xemnas and Ansem were actually Xehanort>Xehanort was actually inside Terra's body when he became the apprentice of Ansem the Wise>Xehanort put his heart in everyone so he could never die but they all died oops>Brown sack Ansem was actually Ansems heart time travelling from the future because hearts are light and light can go close to lightspeed>Apprenticr Ansem knew about Quadratum>Theres a fourth Xehanort in Quantum but that's just a fan theory >Xehanort was raised by the gacha game guy on Destiny islands and was the first to be there not Kairi>Vanitas is actually one of the big bads >Ventus has one of the big bads inside him>Ventus killed Marluxia's sister>Marluxia's sister is why he has a grim reaper in chain if memory >The first 2 Kingdom Hearts were not real only in BBS onwards >Luxu was the apprentice of the other big bad and the actual owner of Xehanorts keyblade >He manipulated Xehanort through childhood till now to enact his plans>dream eaters are dead children from the child soldier war which was mentioned in KH1>Xion
>>719561539I'm STILL upset about the fucking space goats...
>>719583662Friendless losers who've never had a close platonic friend they can say "I love you bro" to with no romantic implication can't comprehend that conceptThey think it impossible that two men can be inseparable, closely bonded friends and it never go beyond friendship
>>719584153I forgot more >Riku can wield a keyblade because Terra did the keyblade ceremony on him for no reason the light just told him to do it>Kairi can wield a keyblade because she accidentally touched Aqua's it's like some sort of fucking virus apparently >Aqua was in the dark realm right behind the door when KH1 was ending >Ventus' friends are the dead children Pokemon cause he's from 100 years ago>Maleficent time travelled when she died in 1>Xehanort is the Child of Destiny whatever the fuck that is>Nobodies always had hearts this wasn't a retcon you are just stupid >Axel became friends with Texas because he met Ventus
>>719584339This isn't a recon, it was a reveal.
>>719584339You can't have a retcon in the same game. Watch the cutscene again after knowing the twist and it all makes sense.Majima's personality being changed in Kiwami is a retcon.
>>719578310>maybe if I keep collecting examples my opponent will give upyeah, retards occasionally called it PSX because the X is cool but any normal person would have said PS or PS1get over yourself fag
It's not a game but I recently found out about all the Eureka Seven sequels and it made me so fucking mad. There are ps2 games I guess. I dont know. I'm so fucking mad about Eureka Seven.
>>719566006True. BTW, I shot JR.
>>719580873god fucking dammit, there goes my day
>>719580509No, you fucking mook, as much as you want to believe, there's people who don't hold /v/fag opinions.
>>719572328Stupid people are tiring.>>719580031>keep retconningIt's not a retcon if they throw a game way at the end of the timeline. You don't know what "retcon" means, which suggests you're a retard.
>>719583893They more or less treated F3 as a reboot.Why are towns still fucked up as if they're fairly new? Well because they wanted the post-nuclear atmosphere and couldn't come up with a good excuse. So people are now, in F3, living in shittier conditions than a hundred years ago, in F1.They just don't care. They want to appear like they care about setting and lore but they don't.
>>719562931Destiny doesn't have story or characters, just 3 people that say "the light and the dark, guardian" in your ear.
>>719584874Not that guy but the real retcon happened in Ocarina of Time when it was supposed to be the backstory shown in the LttP opening but they didnt follow it. What really fucked everything up was Aonuma though.
>>719571635see that retcon doesnt answer for jinpachi and heis absolute hate for him. and how he got livid when he saw that kaz and jinpachi were getting along. the backstory is really heihachi is player hater hall of fame candidate, and he hates all of his relatives for one reason or another with a fucking passion. but he fucking loves his goofy ass bears
>>719584728It's hard to believe that when you constantly recycle the lowest tier of /v/ fag adhoms and deflections.
>>719583662Basically retards with low IQ like redditors or twittards can see two good guy friends hug and redditors will make up an entire scenario about how those two dudes are gay as fuck and secretly fucking. A combination of distorted cultural views, low intelligence, and projection of their gay yaoi fetish.
Zelda timeline should have just been two timelines because OoT was a time travel story that made two parallel dimensions but then the downfall shit they had to add for some reason was retarded. And TotK retconning the Sheikah into being inferior to goat people and the Zonai being goat people instead of barbarians like they were hinted at in BotW was retarded.
>>719571161They did that in Ar Tonelico and it made me mad when i played it years ago
>>719585128Your parents should've beaten you more, retard.
>>719563491Same shit happened to this dude in WoW>Introduced as a rogue type character>His entire arc is how he is hopelessly in love with Bolvar's daughter>She rebuffs him constantly but its clear she cares for him>Whole storyline of this and its completely central to his character>1 content patch later, he's involved in a questline with another male character where they bicker at eachother and talk shit>For some reason, fags latch onto this and ship them with eachother>The writers acknowledge this and make them a full blown gay couple out of nowhere>Now thats all his character is>Bolvar's daughter is completely forgotten about outside one appearance in Shadowlands
I'm going to say Bridget being a tranny and not a trap
>>719585748>How to piss off Guilty Gear's secondary & tertiary "fans" in one easy step!
>>719584874>your too stupid to understandAmazing retorts there, buddy.
>>719573208The circlejerking over The Boss ruined the storyline post-MGS3
>>719568889All that old stuff isn't retconned, they just added crazy new lore on top of itm
>>719585597You're just saying that because you couldn't possibly beat me, you soggy fuck. Eat a salad.
>>719582669Tekken's story is fucking dogshit and it feels like Harada & someone else couldn't agree on a direction
>>719570575Larping?
>>719586083>Actual Internet "Toughguy"
>>719583761One really has to wonder why the fuck their proposed hybrid system didn't work with playtesters
Rayman's species being retconned into teensies
>try to come up with something to make warcraft lore more cohesive so you don't have to retcon shit every expansiona few expansions later>retcon it by saying it's the skewed perspective of the titan (order) pantheon
>>719583662A worrying percentage of people have never had genuine friendship and believe anything beyond an arms length attachment to someone means you want to fuck them.Concepts of long lasted friendships or even a godparent is bizarre or/and confusing to them, to them; a friend is someone you kinda know & hang out with once in awhile
>>719586380>Hurr durr your parents should beat you >I would only say this on the Internet because I'm a little bitchOkay buddy. Do some pushups.
>>719575461The real moronic retcon is Athena doing a 180 literally hours after Kratos skewered herWhat a stupid asspull
>>719586549>Chronicles volume 1 says that Sargeras killed the entire Pantheon>patch 7.3 comes out like 8 months later>actually Aggramar is alive and being corrupted and also the rest of the Pantheon is still alive and trapped in space prison
Acclaim had a whole series of comics that revolved around Joshua Fireseed from Turok 2. The comics introduce his family which consist of a dying uncle, Carl. An older sister, Vivian, along with her two kids Beth and Clay. A younger sister, Allison. And also a brother, Michael, which I don't recall of what happened to him. Adon also makes her first appearance in the comics. Way before Turok3, Council of Voices are featured in this comic. Seems like the comics were a big deal for the game Turok 2, until Turok 3 came along. Joshua now has an new older sister, Danielle, and younger brother, Joseph. The Council of Voices make their game appearance, though different head designs. And Adon has a new design, changing her pale blueish alien skin to looking like a regular human. Interesting detail on Adon is her old design did have four fingers, but over time the comic and merchandise gave her five.
>>719586653Motherfucker, you aren't tough, you probably can't fight and your only joy is this Mongolian Basket Weaving Site where you have like minded people who share your terrible opinions.
>>719586887I stopped playing after Warcraft 3, how many guys behind the guy were at fault for Gul'Dan contacting Azeroth by now?
>>719584616In what way is this retroactive? It's just regular dogshit.
>>719586549Yeah that book seemed interesting until I realized it was just going to be retconned and made irrelevant by the next expansion.
>>719572076Lore for Jet is so inconsistent in 2 that Avellone had to cope about it in the Fallout Bible among other things. This isn't Bethesda fuckup
>>719576735Like what is Akuma's canonical killcount anyways, like he killed 2 guys and a submarine crew?
>>719575461Kratos was always a giant megalomaniac pussy with a suicidal power complex, NuGoW works off of that in a really shitty way >WHAT IF KRATOS FELT BAD ABOUT BEING A HUGE ASSHOLE?!Woaw real impressive storytelling chief, would’ve worked a little better if he wasn’t far far away from any of his victims living peacefully with his family for years.>oh man, I was such a huge cunt>dad you were a huge cunt?>the biggest boy, just gaped across Rome, used to snap civilians in half for health, threw Midas into lava because it was funny>woah
>>719582669Reminder that the timespan from the end of 4 to 7 was "a few months" meaning there was literally around 3 Iron Fist tournaments that were set up within a year lmao.
>>719574679League really has a lot of retcons huh>Taric going from an alien to an ascended>Same for Malphite>Whole League of Legends system
>>719586998>Medivh>Kil'jaeden>Sargeras>the Jailer>I think at one point they tried to imply the void lords or old gods were influencing Cho'gall to help Gul'dan but can't remember the details
>>719583662He's saying that friendship isn't sexual / romantic love (eros) pretending to be something else, and friendship isn't a partial / incomplete / lesser form of eros either. Lewis is saying that some people believe that a particularly strong and close friendship must really be eros after all, or that eros is the true, completed form of friendship, or that friendship is an early or less extreme form of eros, and Lewis claims that for them to believe that, these people must have never experienced true friendship.
>>719577303>Akuma embracing the dark hado was supposed to be sinful and something Ryu should resist. But if Gouken is just fine, then what's the point?The point is that the Satsui No Hado isn't all powerful and by Gouken winning the duel against Akuma and training Ryu to the point he casts aside the metsu techniques he was using in SFIV it enables Ryu's growth into someone who is capable of achieving enlightenment If Akuma kills Gouken at that point in time then a Ryu who is already experimenting with Satsui No Hado techniques would most likely agree to be taught by Akuma and succumb to it
>>719561539>naked man in OP of thread>doesn't get deleted>naked women in OP thread>gets deletedI'm noticing something here.
>>719586964>Save me other faggots, I talked shit and was reminded I'm too much of a bitch to back it up irl. The only personal power I have is to come to this Himalayan Olympic swim team bulletin board because I can't manage a chin up.Sorry, it's difficult to follow your bullshit. Google translate doesn't have a dictionary for "little bitch"
>>719583509In Mass Effect, they had a cool, in universe scientific explanation as to how the weapons in the galaxy were able to shoot (almost) unlimited shots without the need for conventional ammo. The guns would shave a tiny fragment of extremely tough metal off a little block inside the weapon, then shoot it at near the speed of light. It was a cool mechanic as the only thing you needed to manage was the heat your weapon would produce. So, practically unlimited ammo but limited to how well you can radiate the heat it generated.Then, Mass Effect 2 was released and they basically said "lol nvm just fire off 20 shots then load in a new clip".
>>719580873>People STILL bootyblasted over a retcon that existed because the overheat system in ME1 sucked fucking balls to playget over it niggers>b-bbbbut h-how did ME2 Shepard know how to use themthere are several reasonable explanations but who fucking cares about a throwaway line in the literal tutorialThe thought of some retard seething and dropping the pure distilled ME2 kino because it swapped to an ammo system makes me laugh so hard
>>719584339It was never a retcon, just a reveal that Katsuragi's keikaku was retarded when people analyze it critically like with the commissioner
>>719587515Yea I never understood why people were so fixated on this. Fuckin autism.
>>719587485That sometimes jannies stop sucking cock long enough to do their jobs and delete off-topic dogshit?
>>719587515>because the overheat system in ME1 sucked fucking balls to playFiltered>there are several reasonable explanations You don't have to reach for any made-up reasonable explanation, the game itself very clearly states that Shepard engaged in several months of galactic clean-up duty after ME1, during which time the entire galaxy adopted thermal clips. Then he gets blowed up during one of those cleanup missions. You didn't even fucking read the dialogue in the game you're defending
>>719561792Metal Gear is cheating, every single game introduces some weird retcon, even MGS1 retcons some of the NES games
>>719587515Wrong, retard. Thermal clips could have worked just fine, but they implemented it incorrectly.Instead of thermal clips being an optional resource to use to allow you to lay down insane amounts of fire with a super fast cooldown mechanic, they changed the guns into regular converntional weapons.You wanna pick your shots and never have to reload? Play as you did in ME1.You wanna spray like fuck and not have to wait for your weapon to cool down? Eject the clip and keep firing like crazy.
>>719587710That the jannies are gay and love naked men.
>>719587826I'm sorry they deleted your pornography thread from the video game board.
>>719587826>love naked menWhich is still less gay than liking Sciel
>>719583509ME1 lore:Guns don't fire bullets, they shave extremely small bits off of an internal block of I think it was tungsten, then railgun out the tungsten. Functionally, every gun in the world of ME has infinite ammo. The downside is that the guns overheat. In ME1, every single gun had infinite ammo but with an overheat-cooldown effect if you shot it too much (like a turret in most modern shooters)ME2 replaced this system with some new lore that guns work the same, they just dump the heat into disposable heat sinks that can be ejected out of the weapon. Practically, this means every weapon in ME2 (and onwards) just had a traditional ammo systemThis change was done because honestly the overheat system in ME1 was novel but it was fucking annoying to use in a shooter. It was one of many issues that leads to ME1's combat being bad.>So why are people madPeople get mad about it because they're autistic retards. The complaint they'll usually resort to is that the change from heat to thermal clips was done in-universe while Commander Shepard was dead/comatose, but the start of ME2 has Shepard waking up and instantly knowing what a thermal clip is and how to use them without question. This is clearly a gameplay convenience because this is the tutorial, but retards gonna retard
>>719587909Why do you love naked men so much? And the thread not only wasn't mine, but was just as much on topic as anything else.
guns overheating in ME1 is better than ME2 artificial difficulty where enemies just randomly don't drop ammo after you kill them so you have none left by the end of the mission
>>719588042I'm sorry they deleted your pornography thread from the video game board.
>>719588156See >>719588042
>>719587231He was manipulated into killing his family, and was forced to abandon the afterlife with his family to clean up god/titan fuckery. By the time he tossed Midas into the lava he was entirely out of fucks to give. Which is why turning him into a pussy was retarded. Or even bringing him back. Why would he have stopped murdering gods if he woke up? By the end, that was all he had aside from death.They stole his chance at peace and turned him into a completely uncharacteristic bitch to "repent"...
>>719561539Totk reconning every game including the one it's a direct sequel to is pretty egregious
>>719563179The biggest WoW retcon was the one its userbase did to their birth certificates.
>>719578005Came here to post this.
>>719575461that's not a retcon that's just bad writing
>>719587731>filteredcope>blah blah blah blah blahI didn't bother to memorize a throwaway line that explains his familiarity with thermal clips because I took it at face value as a gameplay-first narrative change. You can obsess over thermal clips all you want, sperg>>719587825>They should have implemented a hybrid systemArguable, because the ammo system worked fine enough and ME2 and 3 feel great to play. I would have liked a more interesting system like the one you're describing, but every thread like this there are people who freak the fuck out over the thermal clip system like it raped their mother and shot their dog when ME2's combat was in literally every regard better than 1's.
easy mode:gears of war and halonormal mode:the rest of this thread.
>>719561539Shadow the hedgehogs death, really anything sonic related post SA2.
>>719588343>rabidly defends ME2 because it's the one he started with (and he never played 1 at all)>"I wish the shitty combat was more interesting though"Yeah.
>>719588227Everything post majoras mask is a shit show of story telling. Before wind waker it was pretty vague how much time was between each game, and how they even connected (outside direct sequels like zelda 2 and MM).Then Aonuma took over and just took a big fat shit on the series.
>>719580716yes but what good did it do for HIM? It's shown five seconds after you finally kill Zeus that the world around him is little more than a devastated wasteland, obliterated by the catastrophic amount of collateral damage that has been caused the gods were cunts but they were also cunts holding the place togetherthe only winners from all of this were the vermin population
>>719588613>winning an argument against someone you made up in your head>winning an argument by making up a quote you concocted after reading my post while not understanding it
>>719588851>winning an argumentAt least you admit it. Thanks for confirming that you have not played ME1 at all, and said ME2's combat is not interesting. No more (you)s
>>719588042>I must defend any & all off topic threads because of my ongoing "war" with janny!!
>>719578005As an outsider looking in I still have no clue why the creator apparently just torpedoed all of his good will like that.I can't imagine a third game ever being successful after the shit they pulled.
>>719572076The best part was that guy from Bethesda mocking the people that actually care about lore consistency. Saying something along the lines of "we have super mutants and radioactive ghouls, I'm not gonna argue about what makes sense".Always the worst mindset possible from a writer or anybody involved in anything creative.>We have dragons, so NOTHING has to make sense XDDDIt's almost like these people were the original "nerd bashers", then got a job working for the nerd companies, then proceeded to go "lol why do you care about this???"
>>719589370combination of trying too hard to be "subversive" and also obsessed with spiting an imaginary demographic that only existed in his head
>>719561792Metal Gear 2 retconned Metal Gear to have Big Boss not be Big Boss, so MGS5 is just following on from that.
>>719578005>>719589370>>719589454Wait, what happened with this one?
>>719589370>the creator apparently just torpedoed all of his good willTLOU2 is beloved by both critics and your average casual gamer. No good will was torpedoed leave the echo chamber that is 4chan and you'll see what a monumental following that game has
>>719586284Those guys in crusader armors or something like that, I can't remember it that well anymore.
>719566164>719566284>719568889>719569881>719575461>719579332>719579829>719584169>719584616>719585748Not a retcon.
>>719589506the last of us 2 is basically druckmann going>WOAH>BET YOU DIDN'T EXPECT -THAT- TO HAPPEN!like 50 times back to back and somehow believing that this is actually good storytelling just because it never goes in the predictable direction
The Koopalings aren't Bowser's kids.Fuck that.
Didn't Assassin's Creed go completely off the rails by rewriting all of the templar vs assassins stuff that the first 5 games were setting up before they killed Desmond and painted themselves into a corner?
>>719578668Psx started getting used later because I think that's what the smaller version was called. It is pretty retarded though it would be like calling genesis, genesis 3
>>719571635>>719580009>>719586123I think Tekken had a somewhat interesting story until 6.Biggest issue with 4 was just Kazuya being brought back5 felt more like a side story6 was the point of no return and had ironically the biggest story mode. All that effort for a big shit story and it's still affecting the game's lore.Somehow Harada managed to make up more retarded stuff in 8 though
Thermal Clips in Mass Effect 2
>>719589780The little thing with the attachable screen? That was the PSone.
>>719561539The equivalent would be like saying Link randomly turns into Ganondorf because a random unaffiliated monster takes control of him.
>>719562769The entire timeline shit is a mess and I am shocked any fanboys defend it.
This is a PSX.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX_(digital_video_recorder)
>>719588297He died, they undied him to make more games.
>>719561539Arthas le bad
>>719590442He didn't die, you see a blood trail from him crawling away.
>>719589546In any case it's not live action role-playing
>>719589934Kaz being brought back is whatever but Jin being a heel and starting World War 3 because reasons was the worst fucking thing.
>>719590943The reason is total bullshit too>Prophecy says Azazel will awaken and destroy humanity if a world shaking conflict ever happens>Jin believes only he is strong enough to kill Azazel and if Azazel were to ever awaken at a time he was not alive humanity would be exterminated>He starts WW3 to awaken Azazel and kill it>There was no guarantee WW3 would ever break out without him causing it though
>>719591181Then 7 & 8 tries to salvage it but no, Jin shouldn't get that. Like where's the fuck is Miguel in T8? Dude has every right to end Jin for his stupidity.
>>719561539Peach and Mario not being a thingi guess
>>719561539>>719562769Honestly I never understood why people say the Zelda timeline is a mess or way too complicated. I know they were more or less making it up as they went and only gave an official answer way later but like >Skyward Sword is first>OoT splits into three timelines >it's been like this for many years nowLike it's not Kingdom Hearts or Metal Gear, you could explain this pretty easily to somebody unfamiliar with the games and even without any spoilers. Half the games aren't even important to the overall timeline
Speaking of retcons, how is Ass Creed doing nowadays? Are the Templars still trying to make a super brainwash network using satellites?
>>719584962There's also the unimaginably retarded need to set every game after the other. The concept of setting a game earlier in the timeline is anathema to the retards st Bethesda, so Fo3, that would make much more sense of set like 50 years after the apocalypse, is set 200.
>>719586549>shadowlands>shadow (void)>shadow>undead>necromanticThis is so funny coming from the perspective of somebody who never played WoW and knows nothing about the lore
>>719588181>s-stop telling me to watch porn I just want normal attractive women!!>every reference you post for it is literal pornI'm sorry they deleted your pornography thread from the video game board.
>>719593039AssCreed one has such a interesting built up to the world.Africa was mostly dead, global warming had killed millions, America was in chaos and had mass immigration towards Mexico and Canada and all types of dystopic stuff building up to a major apocalypse in 2012, but then they started milking it super hard and making irrelevant games so when 2012 finally arrived they hadn't moved the modern day narrative to anything significant and it was all a wet fart.
>>719593385it barely makes any sense even if you do know Warcraft lore
Glad to see Ansem was mentioned. Even Sora himself thought that was bullshit in KH2.
>>719593605I refuse to believe a single living soul gives a fuck about WoW lore at this point Even my most ardent Blizzdrone friend stopped playing it because it has gotten so gay.
>>719589506>fireflies base in TLOU1 is dirty and dingy, not great environment for brain surgery, fireflies are also sketchy and assholish to joel for no reason>base in 2 is completely clean and the fireflies were totally in the right and joel was a mean chud all along
>>719586964>>719587493I ship these two ngl
>>719593868
>>719562769If you only look at wind waker, majoras mask and ocarina of time there is an obvious connection that makes sense lore and time wise
>>719589508Actually blow your head off with a shotgun you baiting retard
>>719587493You'll do nothing if you're ever confronted.
>>719594142I doubt I could stand dealing with someone that regurgitates pissant ad homs and immediately assumes the worst in everyone.>>719595624You're welcome to test that and find out.
>>719579176It's clearly not, but even assuming the premise the parallel development of a separate inhalant that just so happens to get given the same name a random twelve year old came up himself with would still be very hacky writing.
>>719575362i just realized that this twist is more or less the same shit e33 did (with a little ffx springled in)suspicious
>>719561539meh... lots of Fallout lore and history...
>>719561539According to the nes booklet of Super Mario Bros for the nes... all people of the mushroom kingdom were turned into bricks..Every time you destory a brick... you kill a innocent person from the mushroom kingdom.That was really grim dark so nintendo pretty much retcon that lore and it was never mentioned ever again.
>>719588017Fewer people would be mad if they just made the real-world marketing decision an outright retcon, but they were too proud to so instead their flimsy narrative justification falls apart the moment anything older than the events of the original game appears (something they do with careless frequency)
>>719562931>>719563491It's amazing how much story telling potential Destiny has squandered.
>>719597006A blank page doesn't have any "potential" that you aren't projecting onto it. It was always just the cobbled together scraps of a prior project with no ongoing plan beyond "do something with this later".
>>719586425ME2 was 2010 which was just about the absolute apex of CoD dudebro pandering where anything more than what a toddler could understand was thought to drive off sales. Basically the current "modern audience" fallacy but instead of black disabled transfolx it's retards.
>>719584169I let it go because of the tailjobs, but it was still weird.
>>719573423The T-Virus in Veronica wasn’t even the T-Virus. Its the Progenitor spliced into a prehistoric ant virus. Thats why the C-Virus is bug based in 6, because its the Veronica Virus crossed with G.
>>719566520Bridget being trans was character development, not a retcon.
>>719571993Eredar being Draeni was always the one that bothered me the most.
The box turning all the olympians evil in GoW 3Such a massive fumble, they got cold feet at the very end and fucked it all up.
>>719597462tailjobs?
>>719598574The retcon was terrible but the female Draenei models were pretty hot, had to hand it to blizz on that one.
>Thermal clips, a finite resource that could run out in a prolonged conflict is better than a weapon just overheatingRetarded.
>>719598924Retcons aren't by itself terrible, they just frequently and almost always are because they indicated lack of foresight and lazy writing.
>>719596671Nah, they're turned into item blocks. So they help Mario by giving him stuff.I think.
>>719597006You get used to it after a while.
>>719587515I morally and ethically should have the right to skin you alive with impunity
>>719563354It's absurd why they changed it anyways, Forerunners could've remained Human's and they still could've kept roughly the same look of the Didact they went with with the basic explanation being that divorced by 100s of thousands of years of evolution nu-humans evolved a bit differently than before. Nearly beat for beat could've had the exact same plot for why he doesn't believe humans are worthy Reclaimers or whatever too. Wouldn't have saved how dogshit of a game 4 and onward was and the terrible "le humanizing the machine" plot they did to Chief, but it wouldn't have required so many big and small retcons to the universe's lore to fix their fuck up afterwards
>>719597972more like character regression
>>719563354I have argued that this change was absolutely retarded with zoomers on xbl. Their answer is essentially: “they never explicitly said that they were” and then I point to guilty spark and they have no answer and eventually get upset.
>>719569720If anything, Doom 2016 actually cleared up a ton of lore by simply stating that all WADs are canon and are part of the Doomguy's eternal cycle of fucking up demons. It is a shockingly simple and effective thing.
>>719580270It's more like "dude turn into a demon in an attemt to save his family" to "two gay dudes inside a demon gundam"
>>719567080>the yokudan blades serving the savage nord ruler>asking you to kill parthuurnax>HOW COULD THEY THIS IS INHUMANEI hate how brainlets cant wrap their heads around blades expecting the dragonborn to act in accordance with a warmongering spirit of a nord
>Mario Odyssey shows New Donk City throws a yearly festival entirely dedicated to Mario saving grown up Pauline from specifically Donkey Kong (who’s supposed to be Cranky Kong) to the point where the entire city idolizes him>DK Bananza instead has Pauline befriend the actual Donkey Kong as a teenager, completely ignore her kidnapping, and then has DK save New Donk City from a K. Rool Genocide>Now Odyssey has a glaring plothole where the savior of the City being a giant ape is ignored and instead it’s Mario>Also all the DKC country games happen before Mario is even a teenagerI need to know what kind of crack Nintendo was smoking
>>719577068Yeah they absolutely should have gone the Castlevania route and openly admitted that there's no way to fit all of the games into a single canon so the canon only matters as far as each individual game is concerned.>>719577430Americans never had a problem with 007's (lack of) continuity for decades, but that's because the directors never tried to draw up a specific timeline post-Diamonds Are Forever and claim all of the movies are supposed to fit into it. Also it's never comic fans complaining about DC and Marvel continuity, it's always weeaboos trying to claim manga is superior for being mostly linear.
>>719561539Henry from Kingdom Come: Deliverance being retconned as (((bisexual))) in the sequel when he was created as a heterosexual character.All of this to shove the cancer known as (((bisexual))) representation into the game.Avoid any video game series with at least one entry featuring that garbage.
>>719562632In hindsight Eli's death in Episode 2 was a mistake honestly.>Eli reveals that he is the only person other than Gordon to know about the G-Man>Promised to do something about it>Dead without any elaborationHis death was because Gabe wanted some big character to die without thinking about the story's potential at the time. It just so happens that the devs managed to make a fucking good scene out of that.
>>719603309yknow when i play games like these i just decide to not be a faggot, i guess closet cases like you have a hard time with that
>>719597006what? I played Destiny at launch and later 2 and i can tell you absolutely fuck all of interest happened, I've never seen a MMO exist for ten years and the plot evolve nowhere.Literal one step forward one step back wait 3 months to see the next shuffle>_____ IS DEAD>no wait lmao>EVERYTHING IS FUCKED>we're ok actually (actual next mission)>THIS DLC IS WORTH THE MONEY GUYS>we're removing all the DLC content lmaoTHERE IS NO STAKESThere is the concept of a stake, shittly drawn on a bit of used tissue paper in a forgotten Bungie closet listed next to "buy back the Halo IP" Dated 2016.That game is a perpetual hamster wheel that even Warframe somehow has a leg up on
>>719603397There's nothing wrong with gay or lesbian representation. However, Henry was written as heterosexual, and then the director retconned this in order to introduce a cancer into the game.
>>719603508i'd be pissed if someone other than the series creators had made henry a fag but if the people who made the first game decided to make him a homo in the second then that's their decision, he's their character and again i just choose not to be gay just like i do in real life
Link's hat being gifted to him by Gaepora instead of being a lasting gift from EzloFUCK you , Aonuma
>>719561539someone explain bobby.png being a retcon please
>>719603661The inclusion of the cancer known as (((bisexual))) representation is never okay. And it's especially heinous when you have to use a retcon to shove it into a game.
>>719603778So it'd be better if he was just gay?
>>719603843If there are no retcons involved, yes.
>>719571993World of Warcraft
>>719572076You made me remember that Bethesda made it so that China didn't start the nuclear war.There's all kinds of cope about how that totally wasn't canon.
>>719578310I live in Sweden and I always used PSX in the 90s.
>>719589504>Metal Gear 2 retconned Metal Gear to have Big Boss not be Big BossNo it doesn't. Metal Gear 2 includes a rumour that Big Boss is only alive because he was basically rebuilt as a machine. Never is it ever suggested there that they're not the same person.
>>719562769>Make standalone games in a series with some loose themes and threads tying them together>Retard fans demand a chronological timeline because they're midwits
>>719563491They did it with Cait and Vi from LOL first though. Instead of female buddy comedy we got dramatic lesbians who can't do their jobs.
>>719561539Sonic arms being made blue because...... white arms is racist? Why else?Also I think Amy is no longer being crazy about Sonic? I've not kept up with Sonic lore but I hear that's a retcon.
These two were always boyfriend and girlfriend but they have retconned it into them being brother and sister.That's very fucked up.(There are Tiny Toon games so its on topic.)
Making the Baldur's Gate novels canon instead of picking one of the available endings to the game and basing the 5e Baldur's Gate storyline off that, while also choosing to undo 20 years of tabletop game worldbuilding because Ed didn't want to let go of Bane, Bhaal, and Myrkul.
>>719572076Another dumb Bethesda retcon is the scarcity of Quantum. Which is really funny considering how they created that piece of lore to begin with.
>>719604385>Also I think Amy is no longer being crazy about Sonic? I've not kept up with Sonic lore but I hear that's a retcon.Actually that was character development following her story in Sonic Adventure, not a retcon, but they did alter some dialogue and cutscenes in the Sonic Generations remaster to make the characters act less mean to each other, which is weird since the series' whole gimmick from the first game is that it's edgier than other mascot platformers. Amy might have been obsessed with Sonic in Generations, I don't remember, but that game was written by people who admitted they pretty much didn't know anything about the series. And we're talking about the plot of Sonic the Hedgehog which is absolutely not worth getting upset over.
>>719569750They should just treat the Zelda universe like the Neverending Story where its just constantly changing and in flux. Could do some neat stuff with that concept.
>>719603721>character died at the end of a season>the fans want him back>to justify this, the writers retconned an entire season as it was just a "dream"
>>719604473i grew up watching this on tv and i always thought they were brother and sister
>>719604845Sounds like just trying to defend them with "character development", it's not like the characters age. If it was an older Amy I would buy it.
>>719563179This one. Literally ruined everything retroactively.
>>719562931Once they killed the Queen for good I knew this series was finished.
>>719604973ah i see, was that show called Dallas?>>719604981sounds like even less of a reason to retcon them then
>>719583662All the other replies are too long and too smart.Horny retards have no idea that you can love someone without wanting to fuck them, that's all.
>>719574637My only autism with the timeline besides the "lol he died" line, is Oracles Link being LttP/LA Link. They dont even look like the same character. Pretty sure they changed the placement of them again in a later revised timeline. Would like to know what the Capcom devs intended with them since plot wise they feel intended as OoT sequels, with the witch sisters and an un used design for Ganondorf.
>>719588017The overheat system worked fine and was easy to get good heatsink mods to mitigate then trivialize it.
>>719578005dont forget the doctor was BLACK and abby was supposed to be BLACK, the only whitewashed character in vidya
>>719567080That'd require them to create something interesting and unique. Not a task Bethesda is up to these days.
>>719561539Is that Scuzzlebutt's leg?
>>719605227Not even horny retards, just retards who are friendless
>>719563354This and it’s funny because it wasn’t intentional. The tards at 343 genuinely missed all the blatant hints in the original trilogy when making halo 4. Talk about irony.
>>719603224They could make most of this make sense if the next game is about Mario and DK, starting out as rivals after Pauline requests DK help save New Donk and they basically reinterpret DK/DK Jr arcade as a misunderstanding, before the two team up to fight maybe K.Rool whom is revealed as working with another evil king to conquer the world and it ends with Mario traveling to the Mushroom Kingdom to save it from that king.
>>719605038Oh I think the changes they made to Generations were stupid for sure, I just mean that we've seen Amy being less clingy for a long time and they have a whole storyline in one of the games explaining why that is as opposed to it being a random change with no explanation. And while the Generations changes are way overkill for softening what was already a pretty soft game in the first place, the "story" is so weak in the first place that I never would have noticed the changes after playing both versions unless other people pointed them out to me.
>>719576750Kratos, at the end of 3, learns that his scorched earth policy isn't really helping. He caused a world-wide cataclysm that killed tons of mortals. Not only did he lose his mortal family by his own hands, he realized he lost his divine family as well. He was the reason why mankind lost its real connection with the Gods for the rest of history. Dad of War does retcon it to show that other pantheons exist after the Greek one fell. However, Kratos' motivation to settle down and stop killing everything is completely supported by the original trilogy. Learning lessons and personal growth was part of the original games. Kratos wasn't some hedonist who simply killed and fucked. He always had some sentimental purpose and was at war with himself. He tried to commit suicide in the first game because he was so guilty over killing his human family. He started this whole thing as a dad. He had emotional attachments. He wasn't a warrior himbo who doesn't care about anything but being cool.
>>719586549got a questionhavent touched anything warcraft related since frozen throne but did they ever explain who those squid faced guys master/god was during that mission with anubarak since they said that they served some outer god or something
https://nichegamer.com/overwatch-mccree-renamed-cole-cassidy-due-to-being-named-after-accused-blizzard-developer/
>>719583761>convoluted solution just to have guns that need ammo like regular guns
>>719606149See the bottom part of that image that says shadow? Thats all about that shit and WoW has been building on it for decades. Even those outter gods were made by extra dimensional entropy gods now.
>>719606108While in retrospect you are correct, the STORY always treated him as that, however
>>719571635https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsJ3YStaWHYlol
>>719606205shit like this is so petty and only accomplishes confusion + makes people more aware of who the character is a tribute to (even if the character name changes)
>>719606345huh thats pretty dumb/weird then since they were hinting that they came from another realityalways thought they were somenxel naga that got displaced through warp shenanigans and went tribalwould explain the marine and hydralisk easter egg
>>719604981Their joke was quite literally:"I'm Buster Bunny!""I'm Babs Bunny!""...no relation!"You are just a moron.
>>719606946I thought they meant 'no relation to Bugs Bunny'
>>719562769isnt that because tingle is a representation of the fans? Not the pople who casually enjoy the series, but that cringy manchildren that refuse to grow up and treat the series and the lore like its religious myth rather than just a series of fun stories for entertainment.
>>719604473 >>719604981 >>719606946 >>719607128Imagine kids watching older episodes after learning in newer eps that they are 100% brother and sister.https://youtu.be/_g0_VRAi3EM
>>719606946Wouldn't they say 'not related' instead? 'No relation' is what you say when your second name could lead someone to think you're related to some famous or infamous person with that same second name
>>719607291https://youtu.be/fwreNNSYj1U?t=7the sister's good night kiss after a successful date
>>719578515>>719578310zoomie, stop talking, you werent there. PSX was like GCN. It was an official designation that you might see in gaming magazines or manuals because it was a product code - but no one ever actually said it.As the other poster said, it was N64/nintendo 64, playstation and dreamscast. When Playstation 2 released then it was either playstation/ps1 and ps2. No regular person ever called it the fucking PSX. Maybe it was common nomenclature inside the journalist or development circles, but it was not common language. It was not uncommon to see letter codes for things on cheat code websites or magazines and you just kinda understood what they meant. GCN was the perfect example - no one EVER sayd GCN, but every magazine and website had it listed as such on the little side tabs. You saw it once and understood what it was but never called it that.
>>719606847Nope, its:>Shadow and Light energy beings fighting to control the universe >Shadow energy beings(Void Lords) have explosive diarrhea that sends out chunks of shadow warped/infused flesh bits that act like planetary parasites to try and eat/corrupt the soul of a planet(and said souls basically use planets as giant eggs to hatch into roaming space giants that construct worlds)>giant planetary parasites fight amongst themselves till they reach a chaotic equilibrium among them for shared infection over a planet>parasites being mutating lifeforms to serve as minions and various mortal cults show up to worship their tentacle rape gods
In this obscure game Fuga Melodies of Steel game there's a blink and miss moment that completely changes the context of events Does this count as a retcon?
>>719562769brainrotted zelda fanboys disagreeing with this kek
>>719607179If anything, Tingle has been a self insert for the devs. Pretty sure one even dressed up as him to promote one of the games.
>>719607480fucking hellthey should just go back to the whole orcs vs humans shit instead of this
>>719572076>In F2 Myron is the creator of Jet._A_ jet. There is more than one Jet, the original and the knock-off.
>>719607357saying "not related" would have been clearer but saying "no relation" is perfectly valid.but did you really watch much of the original show?https://youtu.be/BRXrhuDsVFw?t=182
>>719561539That Mario and Peach were never lovers
>>719578161>>719580250OkThe new stuff is worseMaking Draenei sexy isn't as bad as the Jailer. Ok?
>>719607645The new lore, is pretty much every major event in Warcraft history from the rts games, was set up by this fag >>719575652Who is basically Warcraft's version of Lucifer(with no relation to the actual demons of the franchise), and who may have been some kind of artificial robot thing originally built by a yet unknown true, for realz this time precursor gods, to act as a giant soul filter or something for everyone who dies, but he didn't want to do that for eternity, so he put in place a very autistic and questionable set of events to try and gain access to a machine to remake reality, i think.
>>719607908Nintendo for some fucking reason sucking the little romance that existed out of Mario is dumber than them forcing that purple ghost into being a tranny.
>>719607602tingle is a complete joke character though who's whole gimmick is hes cringe and out of touch with reality - why would anyone make that their self insert?
>>719607560elaborate, what am I looking at here
>>719582495They literally call it 2600 on the later all black console boxes, on the games labels and the system itself. If anything, VCS was the PSX term of the era that was rarely used.
>>719607645Yeah but actual factions of people with opposing beliefs killing each other because they choose to is too antagonistic and depressing when Blizzard is trying to sell wheelchair skins to disabled people.
>>719561539Mass Effect 3 basically retcons the entirety of Mass Effect 1
>>719608241Japs are self depricating. Tingle is supposedly a beloved character internally at Nintendo (maybe not anymore).
>>719588227This was going to be my answer. You know it's bad when Nintendo's own timeline puts BotW and TotK into a bubble that's basically separate from the actual Zelda games, and doesn't even have a line connecting the two either.Putting a direct sequel in the same world and focusing on the same core supporting/antagonist characters ended up wreaking havoc on so much of TotK, because it ruins the story (stories have historically tended to be a middling affair in Zelda games but TotK's is outright awful), it calls the state of its worldbuilding into question, and even acts as a detriment to its mechanical potential. It's actually impressive in that light.
>>719562769Zelda did not need multiple timelines that attempted to tie every single game game together. Even the fucking NES game. It's retarded. Fuck any faggot that says otherwise.
>>719608706I remember my hype going from "OOO, IMPRISONING WAR!!??" to "who the fuck are these cat llama people?" real fast.
>>719604473Tiny Toons was better than Animidiacs.
>>719608820Two timelines made perfect sense based on the plot of OoT and allowed the series to explore different directions while being tied to a major event/game as past history. The third one however, was a completely unnecessary ass pull and should have just been "everything pre oot".
>>719608675Mass Effect 3 solves the entire premise of the series with a deus ex machina in the first 45 minutes of the game. This alone qualifies it as one of the worst fucking games ever made
>>719608831>the reason TotK's DLC was cancelled is because they decided to put the lore in a full-price musouslop spinoff instead (remember, unlike AoC, Nintendo is actually promoting AoI as the canon events of what happened in and leading up to the Imprisoning War)Above all else, it's criminal how Nintendo underbaked the Imprisoning War and Ganondorf's first mainline appearance in nearly 2 decades.
>>719608328The game is about 12 children trapped in a giant tank trying to survive the war.The game has good and bad endings. There's a plot device known as Soul Cannon , a weapon that can insta kill bosses for exchange of one kid's life.If you play the game well , you don't have to sacrifice any kid.During the final boss battle , soul canon MUST be used. In perfect good ending player assumes that's it's the cheesy "power of friendship" of 12 kids who bonded fueled the canon, turns out there's a 13th kid in the tank. Never mentioned before about in the game.
>>719561792I'd argue MGS1 changing Snake into a clone of Big Boss is much more important retcon. It completely changed the direction of the franchise from that point onward. Without that retcon Naked Snake and Venom Snake wouldn't even be possible to begin with.But most people don't see it as a retcon because let's be honest Metal Gear only really starts with MGS1.
>>719609238Why do you think they would do this?
>>719609335To cheat player out of satisfactory ending
>>719609289I wouldn't say Snake being a clone is a "retcon" since it doesn't contradict/rewrite anything established beforehand, it's more of a plot twist.
>>719608841I didn't watch both enough to know, but both are good. However Animaniacs haven't fucked up their lore like TinyToons.
>>719589421It was Pete Hines, he's retired now, but he used to be a PR guy and often acted like a dickhead. There is whole history of good old Pete behaving like a retarded dudebro and then going "hurr durr why be mad lol"
>>719609238Interesting, might check this one out. How do you find the 13th kid?
>>719609516>it doesn't contradict/rewrite anything established beforehandI mean Big Boss was supposed to have trained Snake so you'd have to wonder how he never noticed he looked just like him. It's pretty clear that MG1 and MG2 weren't written with that in mind since it completely changes the context of their fight, and you'd imagine Big Boss would like to tell Snake he's technically his father-brother.
>>719563491Yikes glad Bungie is getting shut down soon
>>719593919I stopped playing long ago, but i like to keeps tabs on the BS. They have the occasional fun lore bit. I was reading the description of the Dinensious raid and i like the bit about its one attack bombarding the raid with the fragments of all the worlds its destroyed.
>>719609974You don't find it. It's never mentioned before. It is acknowledged in the archives later.I might show you the entire ending on YouTube.
>>719569881In blue shift the ending is barney and some scientists riding away from black mesa and got away from the nuke so it makes sense that they could become buddies
Liquid Ocelot being nanomachines instead of the actual soul of Liquid revived through Ocelot's psychic genes.
>>719561539>retcon>caring about story in a toy for children
>>719610334Why are you here nigga
>>719586549So lookin at that, are the naaru not supposed to be the opposite of the void lords now, despite being able to collapse into one? This shows them as equivalents to the old gods instead. Are we now gonna get Light Lords?
>>719569720They had some partnership with the WWE and they insisted the guy was always constantly referred to as 'Doomslayer' and it was just weird.
>>719563491Gross
>>719606946this>>719607128
>>719584978https://www.ishtar-collective.net/categories/books-of-sorrowFuck off, Destiny 1 had great fuckin lore, it was just formulated in a parable format and left for you to find on your own. If you bothered to read and explore it's always been top tier.Destiny 2 ruined it all with Marvel writing but Destiny 1 was awesome.
It's not technically a retcon, but I had no idea Fatal Fury wasn't actually canon to King of Fighters for decades, and it fucked me up like a crazy retcon.
>>719562769I cannot believe there are still people disagreeing with this post.Specially after shit like Tears of the Kingdom just making arbitrary contradictions to Breath of the Wild's lore for no other reason than to create contradictions.
>>719609197Is the musouslop gonna explain where the fuck Sonia and Rauru's kids are?
>>719611867>The man opened his eyes and took an even breath. Almost nothing was where he remembered it. Eaton was gone. Blasted and paved. Mild climate was the only reason the shacks and huts that made up most of the town remained standing.>But the storm of Light versus Light had left scorched earth and shadows behind. And the bones of the dead. It was a blood red dusk. Ghost hovered above him.>The man looked down at his hands. He tried to chuckle, but coughed instead.>"Are you all right?" Ghost asked.>He stood up, straighter than he had in a long time. Easier to seem like people when you slouch.>"Germaine?" Ghost asked.>"That's not my name.">"You let them call you that.">The man turned to look at his Ghost. "It's not my name. One 'a the Warlords mentioned seeing a lone Ghost. Did you get sloppy?">Ghost nodded. "I'm sorry. I was scouting a new livestock route for you and I got carried away.">"I don't ask for much," said the man, shaking his head. "Shovel. Get me one.">Ghost scanned the debris and ash to find a charred spade, lifting it with a lasso of Light.>The man slowly gathered all the bones he could find and began to dig.>"The child. Yu," Ghost continued.>"Stop talking," he replied.>"What did she tell you? You were speaking to her at the end.">He didn't respond. It would be lifetimes before he told Ghost the answer. But he would remember.>"You could have helped her.">The shovel hit the dirt harder. "I told you to shut up.">"You could have saved them all.">The man had nothing to say.
>>719563179Biggest retcon in vidya, and worst retcon in the history of fiction. Literally ruined the entire setting irrevocably.
>>719563491so like Gus from breaking bad?
>>719571161Funny you post Kenichi since it literally got written twice.
>>719561792how bout them turning cartoony ass 70s movie villain, fucking evil big boss basically into the main protagonist of the whole thing?
Hasn't officially gone through yet, but the fact that they keep dropping in-game hints that Fallout 76 is a simulation, with more explicit reasoning at the game gets more content is funny to me.Considering It and the twist from the Amazon Prime show that they are still pushing are pretty much incompatible, it only a matter of time now.
>>719610334Anon. Even children know that story to be enjoyable must be somewhat believable
>>719612732I don't even blame MGS3 for that. I primarily blame MGS4 because it decided that Big Boss and The Boss were the key to all of this.
>>719585748>the plotline is about Bridget proving his village community was wrong for assign his gender against his feel>actually it's fine and the society was right all alongIt's funny how making Bridget trans actually gives his story anti-trans message.
>>719609238Kek. You spent a lot of time getting that perfect run didnt you? Now think to yourself, did 13 deserve being singled out? Or were the 12 you control the antagonists all along. Try doing a run where you canon fire all 12 of them. 13 might be saved that way.
>>719603661Its not maddeningits just pathetic
>>719612398Your point?
>>719613878If the 13th kid was mentioned anywhere in the game before the final battle this would make more sense. Writes pulled a rabbit out of magic hat. This is how I see it.
>>719614079You've poorer taste than you think is my point
>>719563354>>719570567Came here to post this, they fucked the lore so much...
>>719609289MG2 definitely feels like a MGS game, imho.
>>719614236Nah, nothing wrong with it. It's pretty good for its length, establishes a plot and very vague character sketch in very few lines. Knows when to be sparse. Its limited in what it can accomplish because of its length but its solid.Unearned smugness does not equate to taste or intelligence friendo, and funnily enough your post here actually proves my point.
>>719572643I don't really give a shit about the Mario lore but goddamn I was annoyied how that shitfart movie retconned Yoshi's Island.
>>719561539This.They just retcon shit every month
>>719614179*writers
>>719561539>you killed a god dragon and saved everyone from a predetermined fate?>that's cute sweetie now shut up and do what I tell you to>also I was involved with your 300 iq 5d chess move from the very beginning despite nobody ever mentioning meChaos mechanics are a pain in the ass but this bitch is what really makes fatesworn a terrible dlc.
>>719616858For a moment I thought you're talking about Skyrim.
>>719573423Did you retard even play resident evil 1 non remake. Have you read the notes?
>>719572076All hail the best lore retcon to ever exist!https://youtu.be/_kgbYdmVSyM?si=hNVdGVtSsDK_8kex
>>719572152starts a world war that kills off 1/4 of the world population and two games later he turns into an angel lol
>>719579791no one cares about your third world shithole, zoomieyou probably didn't get ps1 until like 2012
>>719616210What did they do?
>>719563350That was nothing new, ever since they established the concept of the Master Sworf it was specified thst it was forged by the sages (A process that is actually shwon in Wind Waker), come Skyward Sword this was retconned twice over, the original goddess sword was forged by Hylia and the master sword was reforged from it by Link using the flames of the big goddesses, and the Master Sword itself was an earlier retcon of the Magical Sword.Really, the thing with Zelda is that they make whatever game they feel like with zero regard to solid continuity and simply go by generic terms, the games were never meant to function as a timeline, otherwise continuity would be much more easy to follow like with Metroid.
>>719574679how many characters did they retcon to be gay already? has to be at least four i think
>>719617925Officially? Just that guy. You can I suppose throw Arcane people into that lot, but they had no previous stated relationships or inclinations so two of them ending scissoring is not really the same as outright rewriting a character two be fundamentally so gay that he is two dead dudes in love fused together into a demon bow.Even actual gay people find that to be one step too extra.
>>719561539The Mario platformers are non canon spinoffs
>>719611970it kinda is but only up to FF3
>>719563491destiny ruined their own characters often. ill never forget when they turned rasputin into a gay little robot
>>719563491Sounds like a weird and poorly telegraphed direction to take a character to earn brownie points but not a retcon.
>>719603397>yknow when i play games like these i just decide to not be a faggotit's because you don't like self-insterting>>719603397>i guess closet cases like you have a hard time with thatarachnophobic? you must secretly want to fuck spiders!
>>719618072>Just that guyAnon...
>>719618221>quotes the same post twice to react to two different statementsThe bot is glitching out. Get your shit fixed, Chang.
>>719618261Was that an actual thing? Not actually argumenting, I genuinely thought it was more a gay bait thing they did like with basically every other pair of male characters in the game. I stopped with LoL a while ago so I only have superficial awareness these days.
>>719618323apparently graves is canonically gay and tf is bi
>>719585128if you actually believed they were a bot, you wouldnt be replying to them. disingenuous faggot
>>719618369Who knew. I guess it was easy to glue together when they could barely think of any storyline to them than constantly talking about one another or whatever, but feels like a copeout. Which it should, since it obviously is, but you know.
>>719563491Lmao
>>719617925varus, tf & graves, diana & leona, caitlyn & vi, nami and neeko makes it 9 gay retcons and i probably still forgot someone
>>719583662You are dumb, sorry
>>719585732This is another case of a fanfiction writer getting hired and immediately muscling their headcanon gay pairing into the lore.
>>719618578To be fair the likelihood is that the original writer never actually cared about the character/s and was looking for an excuse to dump them on someone else after losing interest along the way, then some carrion birds showed up to pick the carcass of his creativity and he just let them.Many such cases.
>>719596248Except nobody cares about star ocean because its weeb shit, meanwhile e33 is far more renowned
>>719618640The original writer was more likely to have been fired for budget/breastmilk reasons.
>>719618831It's Blizzard so like, yeah, probably lost in the sea of coping with rape allegations through mass firing people and dubious self-wanking with a faux DEI flavour.But if under the assumption they were still there to have a say, I'd guess that was the reason.
>>719608000Once again, this has been a mantra since long, long ago.Oldfags were bitching en masse when Warcraft 3 came out that they made Orcs into good guys, for example.
>>719580873FUCK YOU
>>719577687Twilight Princess has:- The Hottest DOMMY MOMMY Zelda - The Hottest Semen Demon imp with also a humanoid form with huge ass if you're into that - The Most Good-looking Link, with also the biggest KNOT which is fought for by women (and Ganondorf)
>>719607908Mario was always the cuck, while Luigi fucked. This is a FUCK YOU to everyone who laughed at Luigi.
>>719583662It means this.
>>719561539Venom Snake being a thing in the MGS5 lore.
>>719587515I'll never understand anyone who thinks ME1's infinite ammo guns weren't fun. They were fun. They were a lot of fun actually.
>somehow, all the sheikah tech disappeared
>>719608029He was obviously influenced by the God of Berserk Universe, the Idea of Evil which plans everything that happens and has some nefarious goals, also serving as an immense soul filter.
>>719619664That's not a retcon
>>719561539the story of nortubel
>>719606108WE SHOULD BE BETTER MEN
>>719561539That taking 7 years to finish Silksong was actually cool and based and they were just having soooo much fun :)
>>719569881why does this trigger autists?
>>719617042The old games had no consistent lore for how it worked. Some notes imply that it infects living people, but other stuff is very obviously meant to imply re-animated corpses. Like literally digging themselves out of a graveyard in RE3. Or chief Irons saying Mayors daughter (who is dead) is going to turn into a zombie unless he decapitates the body.
>>719563179jailer is so bad dude. if you never played world of warcraft, this character was basically introduced as the leading force behind every single important event in game history, even those pre-dating world of warcraft in warcraft iii
>the world as we know is on the verge on ending and once the flame goes out everything will be lost forever>you can delay the inevitable for a few more years, at best>actually, we need an excuse to make sequels so its all a cycle and the flame will come back eventually, so dont worry too much about it>also gwyn was evil and selfish and a coward, please ignore the fact that he spent the last years of his life waging war to defend his kingdom and then chose to sacrifice himself
>>719588724Who cares about the world? What matters is that every greek god is dead, Kratos did what he had to do
>>719580873>Amerimutts seething because its called clip instead of magazineWeakest ego alive
>>719620226is clip/magazine an american vs. euro thing? i thought it was just regular guntism.
>>719583761Its a fucking videogame mechanic autistic fuck, who cares?
>>719619960>Rollzlop has LORE WHOA MOMMA
>>719619783Explain to the class why you should not be expected to learn and grow as a person.
>>719607560That's foreshadowing. That's Jihl he's one of the antagonists in the second game. You find out he's been in the taranis for a while in the first few chapters of 2
this dude dying like 3 times and existing in different eras
>>719583024isn't this from that video where the girl takes like 20 anal creampies then farts out the cum into a bowl before drinking it?
>>719620931What compels a woman to do anal, at least fags have a reason for it
>>719621019>What compels a woman to do analshe's a pornstar so she was probably getting paid for it
>>719620606But didn't know about the child the ENTIRE first game. It's like midichlorians.Also the sequel shits the bed even before they put a sheet on it.
>>719621019Everything women do is for male attention. They don't have any agency of their own. They also don't really get anything out of handjobs, footjobs, titjobs, and blowjobs(there are exceptions to this) and they still love doing these acts because it gives them some sense of worth. In other words, a man enjoys her efforts.In this case some guy thought that making crazy anal porn will be good for his business. And a woman just followed orders.
>>719620606It's not a out what it means to the next game. But what it meant to the player who thought combined efforts of the crew paid off. How could a computer "forget" it has a powerful power source?
>>719583662It helps if English is your first language
