>what if...le LIGHT was heckin evil and le shadow was actually wholesome and misunderstood?!?!
You mean like reality, where god has killed infinitely more people than the devil, but the devil is the "bad guy"?
Angel villains look cooler than demons. Simple as.
>>719565687The Devil literally created death. He's responsible for every single death that has ever happened
>>719565883Nowhere in any glip glop book of retards does it say that.The only thing the devil did wrong was give humans knowledge, at which point we got dressed and god got pissed off that he couldn't watch naked children run around because he's a pedophile.
i like this
>>719565595You mean like every single Japanese video game and Japanese piece of media ever created?>>719565687>>719565883If you are talking about Abrahamism. God planted a tree that kills you if you eat it and then he put it in the center of the garden and then he created a deceptive snake and then left Adam and Eve alone in the garden with the snake. And then after they ate the fruit nothing actually happened to them until God decided to punish them for eating the fruit. In the Bible God kills millions of people and Satan only kills exactly ten people after he asks for God's permission to kill them. The only people Satan kills is Job's family and he even asks God for permission to kill his family and God gives him permission, except for Job. So Satan only tries to kill 11 people in the Bible and only kills 10. Lol.
>>719566102Factual, between egypt, sodom, gomorah, and the noah floods I reckon god's kill count in the tens of millions confirmed killsThis is the good guy people worship out of blind fear.
>>719565595Name five (5) games that employ this trope
>>719565595inb4 Shadowbringers glazers come to tell you why that trope is actually a subversive masterpiece
>>719566024He tricked them into eating the apple knowing that it would curse them and their progeny with death. Even Adam and Eve themselves already knew that. That makes him responsible for every single human death ever
>>719566309This is like leaving a glass of bleach out and telling your baby children, who haven't even grasped the concept of knowledge, not to drink it.Ultimate honeypot.
>>719566102Satan is generally understood to be the snake, even though it's not explicitly stated. And ironically, the "Satan" you're referring to in Job isn't Satan at all. Just a random angel
God lostJesus lostGabriel lostSaint Peter lostThe holy spirit lostThe virgin Marie lostSanta Claus lostHulk hoggan lostLucifer wonSatan wonMoloch wonAstaroth wonBeelzebub wonKrampus wonThe undertaker won
>>719566309Can you show any link between the talking serpent of the garden and the adversary that isnt imagined by people millenia after the stories?
4chan seems to have a big problem with stories about groups traditionally treated as unabashedly evil and irredeemable actually having more nuance to them.I wonder why...
>>719566393They were grown ass adults with free will. They ate the fruit because they were promised it would make them like God, which is arrogance
>>719565595I’ve never played a single game where Darkness is portrayed as the “good” element. If anything, that would be refreshing.
>>719566559How can you have free will without knowledge? At that point your free will peaks at a dog level.Also NOBODY at ANY POINT in the bible says adam and eve are adults. Eve isn't even capable of carrying children yet retard.
>>719566559They literally had no concept of good or evil, they were still mentally children.
>>719566456The story is really bizarre how Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 seem like they are written by different authors.Evidence:Genesis 1 covers the entirety of creation from beginning to end and calls God Elohim which means God.Genesis 2 starts with the creation of Man, (we are going back in time all of the sudden? And in Genesis 2 God creates the animals as partners for Adam, but then Adam doesn't like any of them so God creates Eve. But in Genesis 1 God created the animals before Adam. Technically in Genesis 2 God also created the animals before Adam, but it's just a bit bizarre the way that it states God created them as partners for Adam). Genesis 2 also calls God Y_HW_H which is a censored name because the Jews were too afraid to say God's name for some reason so nobody even knows what the real name was to this day.But besides all that bullshit, people at the time were also very confused by the story of the serpent, because to most people it seems like God is punishing humanity for God's choices. The story makes it appear like God set them up for failure and then punished them for it. Lol.
>>719566505Satan is referred to as "the serpent" in Revelations. Not explicitly "the serpent of the garden", but the interpretation was almost immediately and universally accepted since it's a pretty obvious and natural conclusion
>light: absolutes>darkness: nuance
>>719566770>it's a pretty obvious and natural conclusionThat's where the bible starts to fall apart right there, when people are incapable of applying any sort of rational process towards what they're reading. Too many preachers not enough readers.
>>719566456>>719566770I don't understand why the serpent's punishment is to crawl on his belly. Serpents already crawl on their bellies. Apparently this serpent didn't? But it does not explain why the other animals fight humans. God said that the serpent and man must fight each other as punishment and the serpent bites at the man's heels, but many other animals fight humans too and crawl on their bellies. Did God not punish them? What did the fish do to be punished? Or are fish greater than man and serpent because they are not guilty of original sin?In Genesis, only man, woman, and serpent are punished, are the other animals superior to Man because they didn't disobey God? Lol.
>>719565595>Disgaea: Hour of Darkness>Vulcanus and Seraph Lamington weren't good.>Evil hero boo hoo backstory and is the villain/a villain/a demon
>>719566852Elden Ring does this, especially Nightreign.
>When you say ‘he has seen the light’ you sound as if you mean ‘corrupted’>Something like that, yes. Different worlds, Commander. Down here, it would be unwise to trust your metaphors. To see the light is to be blinded. Do you not know that in the darkness, the eyes open wider?
>>719566303it isn't. but the sin eaters make for cool enemies.
>>719565595They both make for cool villain factions if done right.
I choose chaos and oblivion. Light and dark are just weaker imitations.
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>>719566559>"WHAT!? You say you dare disobey my micro-controlled "paradise" where I won't let you do a single thing that I personally don't agree with and if you do I'll fucking damn you to hell for all eternity. You mean you don't like being my literal puppet with no free will of your own!?"G*d is fucking retarded
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>>719566303What, is that what shadowbringers was all about? Just retreading FF3?
>>719565687The thing is, why associate the concept of God with the Abrahamic/Semitic myth at all if it doesn't make sense? When people mention god, they are not talking about the ultimate creator, but from some character in a poorly written Hebrew book
>>719565595Even without the religious element, darkness isn't a good thing compared to light. Without light life wouldn't exist, you wouldn't be able to see anything. Darkness means no sun, no heat, it's literally the death of everything. Light can give life but can also take life a lot like the old testament God. Solar radiation can give you vitamin D or destroy a planet depending on the intensity. Also beings that can only live in darkness are sick or are parasites
>>719566524You're saying NatSoc = good btw also why is Jolyne randomly there>>719566606What you're really saying is that you've never played a single Japanese fantasy game including Nier
>>719567265If you read the Vedic literature (i don't know how i know this myself since i never did) you realize that the ultimate purpose of existence is to transcend the concept of god itself in order to evolve. Brahman (The thing that can't be perceived but without it there is no perception) is from where every god came from after all. Even in "1 Enoch", an apocrypthical Hebrew Bible book, ends with one of the prophets becoming the most powerful Archangel. It all comes down to a personal realization beyond all reductive metaphors.
>shade will keep you cool while the sun overheats and gives you cancer
>>719565687They're both tied at 0 kills
>>719565595The shit they tried to pull in Kingdom hearts 3 with Xehanort
>>719569925>shade will freeze you while the sun warms you and keeps you alive
>DUDE NATURE IS LE PEACEFUL AND JUST AND MEN ARE EVIL
>>719566102Ah so that's why we should let billionaires rape and eat our children from time to time. It's all part of making the world whole again
>what if the robots were basically mecha mexicans because they uhh steal the jobs, and the message will be racism bad
>>719572867I can't stand:>setting where you make robots to do jobs>make them look nearly identical to humans >make them interact with with people like humans>"woah dude....are these basically....le people????"
>>719565595so how redditards think?
>>719566757Genesis is written by four different authors and the final text is a combination of all of them.
>>719572123Shade doesn’t freeze you, the weather does. You can still freeze to death in direct sunlight.
>>719566524O contraire, I think those new Wolfenstein games are basically bigoted.
>>719565595>game universe alignments simplified into broad concepts like light and shadow
>>719565595I like the D&D interpretation of positive energy If you are exposed to it you start healing, eventually gaining temporary hitpoints once you have no damage. If at any point your temporary HP is the same as your actual maximum HP, you die
>>719567825this is some pathetic cope>pneumatics want to transcend the material>apparently have enough divinity to manipulate beyond the material>not a single recorded instance of them actually doing anything verifiably define or transcendental ( there is no reason to assume the "knowledge" isn't just schizo nonsense other than you don't want it to be meaningless )
>>719565595https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2699HTY-g8
>>719566102In which Japanese media is 'le shadow' good? They universally use black goo as evil and only call out the church for being a cult, which is obvious to anyone not in it.
>>719565687>good guy wants you to mutilate your genitalsmakes you think
>>719565595Aragami does this.Except that it turns out shadow is actually the evil ones. The villainess is just seething over the death of her friends/subordinates (who were as evil as her) and the fact that she got her ass handed to her, so she tricks you into helping her get revenge.
>>719569709>tfw life started in volcanic vents deep in the water with no sunlight>tfw deep cave fungus that feed off of minerals with no light
>>719565595name 5 examples of this
>>719566102>leftists freaking out over Yahweh being evil when it’s the only thing that has made me remotely interested in reading the Bible
>>719574586>I looked in the toilet and LIKED what I saw, take that!
>>719565595Darkness without light is an abyss. Light without darkness is blinding. You cannot have a coin with one side.
>>719565595yeah man we get it your brain is finally turning on and you can recognize tropes now, good luck with the rest of highschool.
>>719566985It was supposed to be an origin story for snakes as a whole. Snakes don't have limbs like other lizards as punishment for tricking Eve into eating the apple. Same thing in how Gilgamesh explained snakes supposedly being immortal, because ancient people believed them shedding their skin rejuvenated them, was a result of one snake drinking an immortality potion.
>>719569786It's a little more nuanced: It's not "NatSoc", that's bad news, it's Socialism of any type.Denying the individual and only thinking in population groups is what is killing the West at the moment.
Make a game where both are hecking good and the villain is actually you.
>>719567265wtf I'm a thebeophile now?...
>>719565595Sidelining Squidward in the first movie (which was supposed to be the series finale) and denying any proper closure for the squidfag self-inserts remains one of the greatest decisions in an animated film.
>>719577848>t. spons bob
>>719565595I misread light as lgbt, would be a much more compelling tale
>>719575468>god supposedly loves all creation>snakes everywhere get shafted because lucy impersonated one oncethat's an even more unjust punishment than what happened to humanity lmao, the snakes didn't even do anything
I want more games where the elements are terrifying and I'm NOT kidding.>>719574181Shame aragami 2 sucked.
So do you guys actually believe in God, and I don't mean metaphorically but literally.
>>719579974By "you guys" you should clarify that you mean (at least I hope you do) the self-proclaimed Christians, as it is meaningless to ask anyone else.
>>719577848Band Geeks is squidward's finale tho
ROMANS 9 :19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience evessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles? 25 As indeed he says in Hosea,“Those who were not my people I will call ‘my people,’and her who was not beloved I will call ‘beloved.’”26 “And in the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’”This probably won’t make a lot of sense to some of you for a few reasons. 1 those who are not yet saved are essentially blind and couldn’t comprehend the nuances of scripture. 2 it’s a hard pill to swallow, no one wants to accept that they are not good and are not owed anything by God. 3 every single one of you is made in the image (think ISO) of God with the ability to chose, thus there is no excuse. I hope you all come to see The Truth and repent from your self centered ways. Maybe study up on Bible lore instead of watching 2hr lore essays about some game that won’t benefit you in the long run.
>>719574451Volcanic vents can only exist because our planet was formed by our star and has enough internal heat from all the gravity. Heat is light and light is life.
>>719565595Neither the Light, nor the Darkness are inherently good or evil or both, nor are they obligated to be. Their roles can be interchangeable.Also your flavour of -isms (Atheism included) is no more important then any other.The apple cannot be anything that lies around, therefore one can posit that everything written or shown is just a fabrication, everyone is lying, and Eve, Lilith, and the Snake are the same person.Gnostics just covet power, pretending they don't. All others are even creepier.
