Umm steambros?
has nothing to do with that update in particularit's a long standing windows bug and or mass hardware issue
>Windowslol>Windows 11roflcopterData loss has been happening periodically with stable updates as far back as 8 btw.
>>719572265im still on 10
>updating windows ever
>>719572417people on windows 10 have reported the same issues
>still using Winblows by Microsaar
>>719572265They couldn't reliably make the issue people are reporting happen so officially this is a lie and just regular drive failure that happens all the time
>>719572265>reports sayPeople read this shit and unironically believe that there are 700 million people out there who just got their drives fried.
>>719572265It shouldn't be possible for correctly made hardware to be damaged by any sort of use case coming from any software, therefore this just means that the hardware (or its firmware) is broken in some way. No storage device should suffer any sort of damage just from being used in a particular way, that just means it's poorly made.It's like people crying about games "bricking" their graphics cards, when in reality the card fucking dies because it's not cooled properly, or the PSU is bad, or in more rare situations there was some actual mistake when they designed the board and they used some sort of sub-par part that's not good enough for the use case. Some game rendering 3D graphics can't damage a correctly made graphics card, just like reading and writing to a correctly made storage device cannot damage it either.
>>719572265Thanks MS
>>719572265I don't have this problem on my GNU/Linux machine. Arch btw.
i wouldnt even care desufree me from this prison
why are you still using the PooOS?
my SSD is like 12 years old should I replace it or is there risk of hardware failure and data loss at this age
>>719573576you should always have a backup drive and replace whichever fails first
>>719572424kek'd at the mouth bar
>>719573576Great thing about SSD is that it only allow for so many rewrites before it will just simply give up. That might sound bad but compare to a HDD which simply having your computer case tilted ever so slightly one way can completely brick it within it first use due to it being completely mechanical (as in there are moving parts within it that record data). Downside with SSD is that the data is stored electrically so while more immune to physical defects also means unless you have it plugged in there is a risk of losing data where HDD in theory can keep data virtually forever as long you don't fuck with it and it is left in a good climate. Ideally you would only buy a SSD the moment you decide to use one as age is generally bad for them, so don't buy one and keep it as a backup expecting it to be any good a decade later. Pros and cons to each but for gaming SSD is straight up better, more so if you are on /v/ and likely on your computer daily for hours at a time. Because SSD only allow for so many rewrites you can easily check the health of it with a program. If the program say it is good then it is fine.
>>719572845Alternatives? If you say Linux, you're fired.
>>719572265I turned off all updates on my Windows 10 and it's been 3 years since I got any updates. I disabled TPM 2.0 or whatever it's called in BIOS. I'm staying on Win10 till my motherboard dies and I need to upgrade.>muh security updatesDon't care. Shove your boogieman up your arse, micropajeet.
>>719575303You're just kicking the can down the road
My hdd that I use for media storage started shitting the bed about 2 weeks ago.Coincidence?
>>719575383I have enough linux at work. I will stay away from it for as long as possible. If by the time my motherboard dies the windows 12 or whatever is even worse than 11 right now, only then I will consider switching to linux.
>>719575704>he thinks windows 12 will magically have less bloatware, ads and spyware
>>719575592Mine did too but I'm on Win10. Weird as hell.
If you bought a known brand you are fucking fine
>>719572845I had a crush on her as a kid
>>719575895No I do not believe in such a fantastical outcome. But I want to. Because God knows I don't want to use linux as my daily OS.
Operating systems are massive so things like this happen occasionally, but HOW does it reach the outside? Do they not do testing?
>>719576062Are you retarded? This has nothing to do with brand it's a Windows glitch
>>719572265Fake news. Hasn't bricked anything for me, nor anyone that I know.
>>719573576Age means nothing. A new drive can fail in a year, a 10 year old one can last another decade.There's always a risk and you should always have a backup of your most important files.
>get btfo on /g/>come crying to /v/ hoping the even dumber population bites itPhision memory controllers. Their firmware is what is crashing. The problem occurred on one (1) person's computer and nobody has reproduced it. You are all cattle.
>>719574774> 33TB> 84%What a pathetic SSD.
>>719576075nobody forced you to share that information
>>719573334Thank you for admitting you don't know how software works.
>>719573385She did 5.75 hours of work if I'm being very, very generous and assume that she is actually working during her "work" periods. (She most likely isn't).If you or your employer isn't charging your labor by the quarter hour, you don't have a real job and are in adult daycare.
>>719573385>30 minutes ''quick snacks''>1 hour 15 minutes ''lunch''>30 minutes ''snacks''
>>719577214He's right. If Windows was destroying the storage, you'd be able to see the constant throughput with the correct software. Hell, you'd even feel the SSD performing slower.
>>719575383Ok? That's true for literally everything ever. I'm not gonna stop brushing my teeth because I'm gonna die.
stupid fucking pajeetsoft
>>719577314Who the fuck charges by the quarter hour? Mine just does hours and minutesSystems where you have specific hard time blocks are retarded because they encourage time card shenanigans
>>719573385in case you don't know, these videos are literally propaganda to trick you into applying into a shit job for shit pay>but she's being paid to do nothingno. she's being paid to trick retards
I've had Windows updates paused for a year. They delete shader cache which is fucking annoying since you have to sit there and wait while your CPU melts every time you open a game.
>>719577338Congrats, you just fell for engagement ragebait.
>>719572265>1 tb storage the size of a cracker
>>719572424This, unironically. I bought my latest craptop almost 5 years ago and the first thing I did was disable windows updates, still runs like the day I bought it. Windows updates are a fucking scam at worst and a waste of time at absolute best.
>>719577338>he doesn't have a mandated 1-hour lunch breakkek, does mr. goldberg know you're shitposting right now instead of making the line go up?
>>719577065Why is this even such a persistent news story anyways? Just backlash against win 11? I remember the same shit happening with 7 to 10.
>>719577382Except he's saying that software only damages shitty hardware, which is completely false. Even the best hardware can be broken by faulty software If unchecked long enough. Just because you can prevent it doesn't mean it can't happen. Try actually reading the post next time.
>>719577757My lunch break is only 45 minutes but it's part of my 8 hour day so I'm cool with it
>>719577338Making software is hard.
Already debunkedOnly affects shit tier entry level SSDs Only turd worlders and poorfags are affected
>>719577765It sounds brick-shitting, and W11 is the new beat. Easy thing to slam together a story for.
>>719578608https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbFIUu_7LIc&t=5sA T500 is not shit tier entry level
>>719577816>Even the best hardware can be broken by faulty software If unchecked long enough.longterm nvidia users would know this>install drivers>restart pc>monitor screen starts flickering>can feel pc tower instantly getting hotter from a foot away>check temps>gpu is 100*C and climbing>turns out drivers completely disabled the fansnever again
>>719572265i don't have automatic updates enabled
>>719575704Lemme guess. You're forced to use terminal and don't even have access to a desktop experience.
had that update since two weeks ago and there's no option for me to even delete it unlike the othersgood thing i have a samshit that doesn't use a phison controller
>>719577549considering i didn't watch the actual video, did i?
>>719577338Jewish daycare
>>719577532Shader caching is genuinely a non-issue on newer hardware, upgrade yo shit. I know this from experience from using a crusty i7-2600k system up until 2022. I hated how long it took to cache shaders. I'm running a more modern build now, and shader caching-heavy games like Shokuho (Bannerlord TC) is very snappy with the caching. I know for a fact the game SUCKS to play if you try this on a old cpu. Those players stare at a shader caching screen up to three times longer than players like me.For AMD, get anything Ryzen 5000 series or later, for Intel it's anything 12th Gen or later. Don't be like retards thinking their old CPUs are still good, because everything older than I recommended is not worth it anymore unless its some sort of retro/media center build.
>>719577883Didn't read but Tharja is hot.
>>719577532I don't think it deletes the shader cache. It just gets invalidated for being incompatible with the new drivers.
>>719572265>PNYOh fucking no no no!
>>719579029Yes, you got mad.
>>719572845>even with all the bloat, indians still make better UI than Timmy not the win you think it is.
>>719579050I have a 7800x3D what are you even talking about. It doesn't matter what CPU you have if you install an update you have to generate the cache again
>>719577757Yes, 1 hour. As in 60 minutes. If that slut is just fucking around afterwards for 15-30 minutes every day (and most likely just browsing her social media for another 30 minutes when she's supposedly ''working''), you can count how much of time wasted that is in a year.
>windows 11Thanks, but I'm sticking with windows 7
>>719573385>they make you insert $$ into vending machines for snacks now That’s how you know the tech industry took a dive after Covid.
>>719578608an but egg tariffs are unaffected
>>719572365https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEZsGUqgtHQ
>>719579303Me too, but as of a month or so, I can't connect to the Steam update server anymore so I have a few steam games I can't play until I figure something out.
>>719579167
>>719577757>mandated 1-hour lunch breakOnly good if it's being paid. Otherwise you're essentially just forced to sacrifice an aditional 20-40 minutes of your day for no benefit whatsoever.
>>719577314Her work is doing those tiktok, not actually working at microsoft.
>>719577517You have never worked in an office and it shows.
I will never "upgrade" to Windows 11 and that is that.
>>719578168why do women think they are cute when they do these retarded movements or the fucking duckface? Which man is into that?
>>719578968No, I also had Mint on my machine. For like three years, boss thought it was a good idea to not use the cracked windows, can't blame him at some point I got tired of dual-booting to use some retarded software/drivers from our retarded partners that only works on windows (and even then barely) and asked myself why am I using linux at all, and never went back. Also the amount of times GUI crashed when I was using the debugger in my IDE was more than zero, which I didn't liked.Terminal is not bad because unlike the desktop OS it's not supposed to be user-friendly, and you're not supposed to do casual tasks on it all the time, you're supposed to automate the shit out of everything.
>>719580071it's like the soiface of women
>>719573576My oldest most used drives I usually just keep slop storage on there like my programs I can easily redownload or games that don't need fast drives.
>>719579198You run a Ryzen 7000 series x3d cpu that gets too hot when you rebuild shaders for updates, so your solution is to just stop updates to stop rebuilding the shader cache? What about when your graphics drivers update? I figure some games may run fine with old shaders, but lots tend to need a rebuild of shaders after you do a driver update.Your previous post I replied to (assuming that's you) was worded in a way that made it seem like you were a poorfag. I still think it's a bit goofy you complain about the caching on such a setup though. Pair that with other good hardware and it theoretically shouldn't be an issue, unless you got it configured in some way or just maxing too many settings.
>>719580386When did I say it gets too hot? Literally what are you talking about. Why would I want to wait a few minutes every time I open a game I haven't played in a while? Plus the shader cache always misses some shaders and makes the game start stuttering again while playing.
>>719580527"since you have to sit there and wait while your CPU melts every time you open a game."
>>719580593You realize modern CPUs try to boost as much as they can until they hit 80-90C right? Yea, it's going to get hot no matter how much money you spend. Have you even used a PC in the past 5 years?
>>719577314Multinationals are just overpaid adult day care for conformists aka corporate fashists. Big politics can assert control over people through multinationals. Broke? No problem, banks. They are broke? No problem, tax payers' money.
>>719580783What do you suggest? The way I see it, they are crap anyway after 5 years, so why bother? Is there another way to handle it?
>>719577757>mandatedCringe. I just leave an hour early from work everyday. Lunch breaks are optional but they have to pay for lunch at my job so I just leave an hour early. Been doing that for 5 years now. But I'm remote 3 days and only in-office 2 days so lunch while remote doesn't matter as much. I usually just take a nap or play vidya.
>>719572265Saars do not redeem the windows
>>719573450If you use Arch you're a poser faggot, Gentoo or GTFO
>>719572450Works on my machine!I reverted the most recent update because it destroyed game performance, not my SSD
>>719573385>uses iphone>forced to use windows 11 computersI bet she misses her Macbook
>>719581692Literally the only reason I use a Mac is because of how good the integration is between iOS and macOS and nobody else makes a decent 4" smartphone except Apple.It's unreal how bad Android/Windows is as an ecosystem.
>>719575028Not just Linux, you moron. GNU/Linux.Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;it can only function in the context of a complete operating system.
>>719581602Fuck you. I use Arch because it works, I'm not trying to make my life more difficult just for the sake of it.I have installed Gentoo several times btw. It was kind of fun, especially that one time I did it on a Pentium 3 system with 128MB of RAM, it took me 3 nights of compiling.One night for the kernel.One night for the desktop.And one night for Firefox.But it was surprisingly usable after all that was done.
>>719573259I didn't upgrade my PC, retard. 699,999,999 confirmed though
>>719573385>White chick in "prestigious" make-work job where she essntially sits around or socializes all day>Brown people serving her at the food courtSlavery never ended
>>719583776>White chick
>>719584321She thinks she's white.
>>719573385Ms is going to fell
>>719572265
>>719572265Running windows 11 on my ssd for almost a year now with no issues.
>Jeetsoft
>>719577314>She did 5.75 hours of workThat is more than 90% of office workers.Do you burger flippers really think office workers don't slack whenever possible?
>>719572265What does Windows 11 have to do with Steam? Don't tell me you're still using Windows in 2025. Arch Linux and use Steam's built-in compatibility called Proton. Lutris and Wine for anything outside Steam.
>>719584321Maybe by American standards.
>>719577314>If you or your employer isn't charging your labor by the quarter hour,I have a salary like a real employee. The amount of time I work is irrelevant as long as the job gets done.
>>719577314if you're not putting in 100 hours of real work for your boss every day LOWER YOUR TONE
>>719584798This. The one day a week I'm forced into office I shoot the shit with my entire team while we play board games. I get maybe 2 hours of work done at best. When remote I work hard since I don't have people interrupting me every 30 seconds.
>>719577338>getting mad they aren't workingClock in, faggot. Show them how a real man works so your boss can get a bigger yacht.
>>719584839>Arch Linux and use Steam's built-in compatibility called Proton. Lutris and Wine for anything outside Steam.Yeah.I just wanna fucking turn my computer on though and be able to use the internet and play games at the same time.I don't care if I'm a fucking brainlet, I don't want to juggle shit I just want to turn my computer on and have it be able to play games and shit. I don't want to have to fuck around with the hardware.Linuxniggers are like that faggot who went HURR FOR THE PRICE OF A BIG MAC YOU CAN BUY SOME BREAD AND ROAST BEEF AND EAT THAT INSTEAD. Nigger, I want some onions, I want some cheese, I want some lettuce, and I want some goddamn pickles.
>>719577816>Even the best hardware can be broken by faulty software If unchecked long enoughThere's no such thing as faulty software which damages hardware, with one exception which is software-adjusted hardware parameters (voltage, clock, fan speed, etc.) which can lead to the hardware operating outside of spec and perhaps being damaged that way. But we are talking about storage devices here, I am 99.99% certain the OS does not adjust NVMe or SATA operating voltages in any way whatsoever, so there is actually no way for the OS to damage a drive. If reading and writing to a storage device in a certain pattern causes it to break, then the storage device is poorly made.There's basically no way for any OS to kill drives unless the drives are already bad and the OS does something to trigger a bug or failure condition in the hardware itself. You're a fucking retard if you think mythological "faulty" software is damaging your hardware rather than bringing it up with the hardware manufacturer who sold you faulty crap that dies while being operated within spec (for example: Intel's relatively recent debacle with degrading CPUs despite operating within Intel's own spec. The video games and shit which were causing those things to crash were the symptom, not the cause).
>>719585206>I just wanna fucking turn my computer on though and be able to use the internet and play games at the same time.it's no harder to do that on 99% of linux setups than it is on windows
>>719585206>I just wanna fucking turn my computer on though and be able to use the internet and play games at the same time.it's called a console nigger
>>719585607>paying twice for internet>to play games at 30fpsLMAO
>>719573576SSDs usually go into read-only mode before dying, so you should be able to recover the data. Unless you install and update windows 11, because that shit kills the controller outright under heavy load.
>>719585206>I just wanna fucking turn my computer on though and be able to use the internet and play games at the same time.I do this every day. A Windows desktop for gaming and a Mac Mini for everything else. All with a simple button to switch between them.
>>719585206You sound like an obnoxious faggot ngl.
I just hate when my Windows laptop for work just doesn't work for something. It doesn't happen often, but troubleshooting that shit is a nightmare. I know I have other IT wagies to deal with it, but I can't help not wanting to find out why something isn't working only to be disappointed where most of the microsoft answers are filled with "So you'll need to edit this registry..."
>>719572265>"some" SSDsnot my problem, works on my machine
>>719573385So she just scribbles some stupid shit on a whiteboard and then eats the rest of the time? I wish I could live on EZ mode.
>>719574774>33TB>84%PNY LMAO NOT EVEN ONCE
>>719578608>Only affects shit tier entry level SSDsThe T500 is on $400 SSDs
>>719572265Yea, why can't windoze users be like us ? We only fuck your SSD up if you don't support ukraine. :)
>>719585206>I just wanna fucking turn my computer on though and be able to use the internet and play games at the same time.We're at that point with Linux today unironically. Just install CachyOS (ignore any other suggestions) and check the box during install (or at first boot after install) for gaymin features. Then signin to Steam like normal and you can start playing immediately. CachyOS is so good that their customization were actually taken by Valve to roll into SteamOS. Rock solid OS with all the features you'd want in a desktop experience. You could even just get their "Handheld Edition" version of the OS which removes the requirement for checking a box to get the extra gaming features preloaded. It has everything outta the box and starts you in big picture mode, but you can just exit that and use the desktop. Ready to go with a simple install. Easier to install than Windows. Supports Nvidia too with full features like DLSS.https://cachyos.org/download/I use it on my livingroom PC which is an Ryzen 395 system with 128GB of unified memory. It is perfection. HDR works outta the box too. Great for my use case which is a media center client (connects to my Unraid media server) for streaming 4K HDR Dolby Atmos pirated media and for light couch gaming with my wife.
>>719572845Same issue has been reproducing under various Linux distros with SSDs that use Phison controllers as well. In fact, Linux has had stability problems for years on end with them already.
>>719578168That's why the nowadays games suck. Who would've thought?
>>719582414chatGPT explanation
>>719573334>Some game rendering 3D graphics can't damage a correctly made graphics card,Define 'correctly made.'Remember Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 melting graphics cards because of uncapped rendering and thermal protection not kicking in to do its thing due to the thermal load ending up in a few volatile hot spots only?
>>719586235>not my problemexactly, is not my problem, your are>works on my machineretard
>>719577757>He doesn't work a 12 hour overnight shift completely isolated and unmonitoredLmao @ if lifeI get paid 60k to straight up goon and watch anime all night if I wantI wouldn't trade this job for even twice the salary
>>719579493Get VxKex.
>>719588558What? If uncapped rendering breaks a card that's a problem with the card.
>>719572265>BrickingI really wish tech journos would actually tell the truth for once. The issue is bad, especially for tech illiterate people, but it's not bricking shit, the drive isn't broken, it's basically "frozen" to put it in normalfag parlance. If your drive does this and doesn't recover itself on a reboot, you boot into a live USB of Linux and just mount the drive. You don't have to do anything special at all, just have the drive accessible and that fixes it.This bug is flooding the write queue with a gazillion empty writes, which is causing it to shit the bed and lock up. Sometimes the reboot doesn't purge the write queue, mounting the drive in linux flushes the queue automatically
>>719588558All that tells me is they didn't have thermal probes in the correct locations
>>719585153They'd get the promotion cuz they can suck dick thobeit
>>719588562let me know how to search for your jobi fucking hate mine and i make as much / my job involves reporting to the govt from a private business and it sucks my soul because i have to sweep all the bad shit under the bed for my company and im tired of telling liesalso my company was bought out by a corp last year so its full corporate bullshit nowadays and the hq is in retarded utah
>>719577665When I was around 10 years old, my dad brought home a new external hard drive. It was the biggest we had ever seen. I hadn't even heard of this prefix before. We named it "The Big Gig" and it was 1GB. It was the size of a physics textbook. We thought we would never be able to fill it up.
>>719581920unironically get one of the chink phones. their versions of android OS are leagues ahead.
>>719578168product manager is an euphemism
>>719577314Sounds pretty good desu
>>719573385This shockingly isn't as bad as the female Blizzard employee video that's essentially the same thing. All she does at 'work' is paste UPCs onto merchandise.
>>719590193heh
>>719590373Thats the one.
>>719572265Linuxbros, we are winning without doing anything
>>719572265this has been known since window 10. it is a firstly a core issue with how windows stores memory and drive space for "faster" functionality. This got worse with Windows 11 and all the shit coding from developer, NOT JUST VIDEO GAMES, requires a ton of read/write to perform basic function is causing the life space of SSD to just fucking evaporate.This is a little off topic for video game, but I have been crying and screaming about this for over a decade. my infrastructure gig is fucking secure as I have reduced the need for ssd while still having just slightly lower data transfer speeds and high uptime for my company.FUCK MODERN CODERSIN THE PARALLEL PORT!!
>>719572265>weeks agoNon issue now
>>719590834There are times I want to peer into the offices of microsoft just to see what the developers are doing when they add new features on top of the legacy codebase.
I have an IQ of 600 and I did not install Windows 11 precisely because of how much Microsoft wanted me to install it. Just like I didn't get the fucking jab that somehow wouldn't save me and only saves my neighbor. Cry about it NPCs.
>>719586668We, fuck Russians to be 100%. War or no war, those inbred, barely functioning, chronically drunk, slovenly, bootlicking, cantankerous, miserable, and hollow husks which we try to call "human beings" are literally the dregs of Asia that no one wants to touch besides China who is helping to tank their economy even further with the tremendous loans being fed to Russia by them.Again, this is not even bringing any geo-political bullshit into the mix. Russians are just that fucking broken as a people that even amongst family members nothing is sacred, and one can be expected to be thrown under the proverbial bus by their brothers and sisters that are blood-related for a phenomenally meager short-term improvement on any sort of living condition.Their history and culture are some of the lowest forms of living and being perpetually under the boot of whoever might be higher on the societal ladder to the point where they couldn't save themselves even if they tried. It is hard-coded into their culture from nearly 900 years of indentured servitude to be subservient mindless drones whose only enrichment in life is getting drunk and/or high as a kite on whatever they can get their mitts on, propping up their 'leaders' in an ad nauseam fashion mindlessly, and putting on their rose-tinted goggles of back "in the glory days" when the Soviet machine was little more than a nuisance and the only card they had to play was Mutually Assured Destruction just to say "We are here! Don't forget about us!"But we all know how that turned out, and they're getting their asses handed to them by some podunk ragtag group of slavs trying to be better than Russians ever dared to dream.
>>719584798>>719577314>>719573385I really don't understand the time punch system. It seems like corporations think they are getting their moneys worth but are just wasting time and money. As long as the work gets done who cares the specifics? Most days my job only gives me one hour of work to do. So most of my day is spent listening to audio books and walking around to stay active.
>>719572265Don't care, Didn't ask, Werks on my machine.