It's just more of the same, only not as excellent
I never thought it possible that someone could be this fucking retarded but it appears I've been proven wrong. Well done, OP!
>>7195778821 is better than 2
>>719578101It's not.
>>719577658No. 2 is a lot better than 1.
>>719578101No fucking way
>>719577658Labyrith Zone and MArble Hill Zone make 1 the GOAT of all side scrolling platformers. Fucking mind blowingly good level design and anyone who disagrees is a double nigger faggot. All 2's got over 1 is tails bussy. That's fuckin it.
>>719577658>>719578101I swear to god, sonicniggers are becoming more and more retarded day by day. For years people said years 3&K was the best one, then consensus shifted to 2, now it's 1. At this pace, before next decade hits, we'll see aoomers suck off Rad Mobile, just because they'll think they would look more sophisticated sucking off such an underappreciated classic.
>>719580271Sonic 1 is a really good game tho
>>719580449Dude spring yard zone and labyrinth fucking suck
>>719580480Spring is alright.Marble and Labyrinth are the GOAT.
>>719580730>Marblebased>Labyrinth are the GOAT.I fucking hate this zone, man. I don't think it's the spawn of satan like everyone claims it to be but it just isn't fun to play
What makes people say 1 is better than 2? 2 has a way better zone selection
>>719581096>What makes people say 1 is better than 2?It's a never-ending suckoff between sonicfags
>>7195810961 has the originality factor. Everything that makes Sonic so distinctive was conceived for 1. It's kind of a brilliant game.
>>7195812211 definitely isn't a bad game, but I'd definitely rather play the one with the Spin Dash
>>719578101fucking idiot
Sonic 2: - adds Tails as a passive player two character- option to play as Sonic & Tails, or Sonic or Tails- streamlined level design - no stage 3, bosses are on stage 2- stages are larger than anything in Sonic 1, mostly due to a new game engine. - spindash - half-pipe bonus stages- inclusion of Super Sonic when you collect all chaos emeralds- Sonic 2 is a much more forgiving game overall, and hands out more lives to the player.- Two player split screen race mode - Knuckles retconned into Sonic 2 via Sonic & Knuckles
2 is a bit bland. It doesn't have a masterpiece like Green Hill and it doesn't have the clever platforming found in Marble, Labyrinth and Scrap Brain.
>>719581539>It doesn't have a masterpiece like Green HillChemical Plant? There's a reason they keep reusing it.Also, nobody liked the slow platforming in Marble and Labyrinth, be for real
People are shitting on 2 because of that one fucking sonictuber.
>>719580829Just use the shortcut
Spindash is a crutch, you gain speed instantly instead of earning it from learning the physics.
Alright guys, which classic Sonic game has the best sprite? Discuss.
I have a theory that more and more people are playing these games with savestates and rewind, so they just brute force through the game without experiencing a single death just so they can go online and shit on the game asap. They'll talk about the gameplay and difficulty as if they experienced it (they didn't)
>>719583041Certainly not 3
>>719581416Sonic 3 updates: - Knuckles as a new rival character- battery back up, multiple save files- Tails is less useless as a passive player 2 character, can now fly, can pick up and carry sonic, can swim- Stage 1 and 2 maps are more seamless- Stage 1 mini bosses- More elaborate stage 2 bosses- transitional cut-scenes between Zones- larger stages than Sonic 2- additional bonus stages - gumball and slot machine- 3D sphere bonus stage- more gimmicks per stage- new power-ups; electric shield, bubble shield, flame shield- New Sonic move = spin attack- different music tracks per stage- more in-game cut scenes- updated race mode, with Knuckles as a playable characterSonic & Knuckles adds: - Knuckles as a playable character in Sonic 3- doubles the stage count- additional stages can be played separately without Sonic 3 locked on- New in-game cutscenes for Knuckles in Sonic 3- Knuckles playable in Sonic 2
>>719583041I don't get why 3 is so hated, it looked and still looks nice to this day.
Anyone who prefers Sonic 1 & Sonic CD over any other classic games in the series is nothing more than an animal that must be put down.
>>719583586The ONLY thing I will give Sonic CD over the others is the ost.
>>719583586Sonic CD (JP) has the best soundtrack of any of the og Classic games, I'll give it that
>>719577658a game about going incredibly fastwhere you can only see 15 feet in front of youis fucking retardedit was okay for the time. sonic adventure 1 and 2 were cool. that's it
>>719583586I agree with CD, but there's nothing wrong with liking 1 over the others
>>719577658More of the same would be more Marble and Labyrinth, wouldn't it
>>719583659>>719583664Tidal Tempest and Quartz Quadrant make me cream
>>719583698>a game about going incredibly fastyeah>where you can only see 15 feet in front of youuh-huh>is fucking retardedno
>>719577658counterpoint, it has Tails
>>719583041Sonic 1the extra color bleed in the run is very nice
>>7195830413 looks like mickey mouse.
>>719584103You're never going to believe who Sonic's design was inspired from
>>719578101Yes, this is literally facts. 2 has some of the worst enemy placement and level design of any Sonic game. If you disagree, you didn't play it more than once. Sonic 1 is perfectly designed, unironically, and has better music. The only thing 2 has over 1 is Tails, and he doesn't even have unique abilities until 3. Classic ranking goes 3K>1>Mania>CD>2.
>>719583806im being hyperbolic, if you enjoy it im happy for you
>>719584781You're the first person on /v/ to ever utter these words, congrats!
>>719583041His Sonic 3 sprite is a lot more expressive but I like Sonic 2's Super Sonic sprite alot more than the Sonic 3 one
>>719578101fuck off, mariotehplumber
>>719583041i fucking love S3 sonic sprites.
>>719577658S3&K is better. Sonic 2 has dogshit special stages
>>719586173I wonder how blue spheres guy is doing rn
1 has way better special stages than 2. They aren't as scripted.
>>719587178Like comparing dogshit and horseshit
>>719587178i’ll take the scripted special stages over the ones that make me want to hurl
>Trumps all the classic games
>>719587830see >>719583586
>>719583586>>719587927>Implying that Sonic 1 is even comparable to Sonic CD
>>719588101Why imply it if it's true? Sonic CD's level design is garbage
>Trumps all the 2D games
>>719588180
>>719588146It's good...
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>>719588280It's not, the only good thing about CD is its OST
>>719588251Jim Sterling's favourite
>>719588327Nope. The OST just makes the game even better
>>719588251Episode 2 was like average, this one is actually horseshit
2 is better than 1...until you get to Oil Ocean
>>719588609Oil Ocean is a pretty shitty zone but it's not until Wing Fortress where the game actually shits the bed.
>>719588609>>719588779I… I uhh… I kinda… like Oil Ocean…Metropolis though? Fuck that level
>>719589036>Metropolis though? Fuck that levelOh yeah I forgot about this oneFuck Metropolis
>>719586173Reminder that the praise for Sonic 2 is just cope from the americans who worked on the game, even though they just did very little and Yuji naka told them to fuck off because their ideas were retarded and impossible to implement in such a short time.
>>719589075The game is so good you can't even remember half of it
>>719589036I also hate Metropolis and the slicers that populate it.
>>719578101Correct, except the master system version is better than the megadrive one because it has better controls and level design, and the gameplay focuses on platforming instead of memorising entire levels and navigating irritating gimmicks.
>>719589372i haven't played it in a while but I think it went something likeemerald hillchemical plantaquatic ruincasinopolishill top mystic caveoil oceanmetropolissky chasewing fortressdeath egg
>>7195802713> 3&K
>>719582532>the level is fun if you play less of itSo we agree that the level is dogshit.
>>719589792Yeah, I know you just looked that up right now. Didn't mention hidden palace zone either...
>>719589959>Yeah, I know you just looked that up right now.nope>Didn't mention hidden palace zone either...and you just proved i didn't look it up because i forgot this one.
>>719588609I’ll never understand why the Oil ocean zone has a desert-like track
>>719590138>I’ll never understand why the Oil ocean zone has a desert-like track>why the Oil ocean zone has a desert-like trackYou have a brain, use it
>>719589792Order is correct, but its Casino Night. Casinopolis is the casino level in SA1
>>719590265>Order is correct, but its Casino Night.ahhh yeah thanks, i always get those two confused lol
>>719590092Nope. You intentionally excluded mentioning it so that you could say that just now
>>719577658Anyone who likes Sonic 2 is a pedo
>>719577658Played both back to back the other day and Sonic 2 is definitely superior
>>719590372>You intentionally excluded mentioning it>it's a zone that was left unused in the original genesis version and is only in the Christian Whitehead remaster
>>719581416>stages are larger than anything in Sonic 1no kidding
>>719577658It is not more of the same. The level design was casualized adding way more automated roller coaster sections and there was a much smaller focus on precision platforming to maintain your momentum through the levels
>>719590138Because originally it belonged to a scrapped desert zone, Oil Ocean was going to use the Casino Night 2P music instead. It’s theorized that all the 2P music was just recycled from those scrapped zones
>>719590632Should have played the remastered version bro
>>719591026>Should have played the remastered version broI have played it, 4:3 (especially pre-fifth gen) games were not meant to be viewed in widescreen and that is a view I will forever have
Sonic 1 has two good zones and the rest range from mediocre to shitSonic 2 conversely only has two bad zones and two mediocre ones, the rest are goodSonic 3 is good throughout
>>719591116>Sonic 3 is good throughoutSandopolis
>>719578101>>719584490I can't believe I'm seeing patrician takes on /v/. 2 was a bit uneven with Chemical Plant, Casino Night, and Wing Fortress stealing the show. 1 was a little more consistent. It's slower pace meant it didn't force the speed gimmick too much and water down the core level design. It felt more satisfying as a platformer. Also, that bonus round was peak sovl. The final boss was underwhelming though, 2's was better.
>>719591186Act 1 is good
>>719591110*Burps in your open mouth
>>719590248it’s just a ‘the’ added by mistake, autist. chill out.
>>719580829Labyrinth Zone was fine until they turned it into a nightmare in the final act by slowing down the air vents.
>>719591259meanie
>>719591116>Sonic 1 has two good zonestrvthnvke, idk how people unironically say shit like marble and spring yard are good when half of those levels involve waiting and doing shitty not-puzzles instead of actually gaining and maintaining momentum
>>719591382>"it’s just a ‘the’ added by mistake, autist.">this wasn't what my post was about at allAnd you need to learn to read
>>719591507Because people post the one webm where you can jump over the lava in Marble Zone then delude themselves into thinking you can do that at every one of those segments, and you can't
>>719591636ok autist
>>719591507Marble and Spring yard zone are just fine, wtf is wrong with you?the only real shitty ones are Labyrinth and Scrap brain zone.
>>719577658I play Sonic mania in its entirety almost once a day and jack off to Amy rose, blaze the cat, tikal the echidna, and other girls from hot chick heaven
>>719591186>SandopolisSandopolis is a stage from Sonic & Knuckles, and was one of the cut stages from the initial release of Sonic 3.
>>719592794Sonic 3 IS Sonic & Knuckles, it's supposed to be one big game
>>719592846>Sonic 3 IS Sonic & Knuckles, it's supposed to be one big gameYou're not wrong. But the stand along Sonic 3 cart does not have Sanopolis, and it is really part of its' expansion pack upgrade.
>>719593239> But the stand along Sonic 3 cart does not have Sanopolis, and it is really part of its' expansion pack upgrade.Fair enough, in my mind Sonic 3 is both Sonic 3 (the base game) + Sonic & Knuckles and it always has been
>>719577658How the hell do you even reach such a contrarian opinion lmao.
>>719580271NO ONE ever thought 2 was the bestexcept for zoomers because its the only braindead classic sonic where you can hold right and win
>>719590372>>719590328the fact that he mixed up casino night and casinopolis proves he's going by memory>>719592303>marbleact 1 is fine but i don't like pushing blocks on switches, act 2 introduces waiting on moving blocks to progress, one of which is mandatory to wait, act 3 in particular has one that has you fall back into it if you fail the jump off the platforms towards the end, very slow zone overall>spring yardact 1 introduces bumpers which have ALWAYS been annoying in sonic games, and the slow moving elevators, 3 of which are mandatory to complete the zone. i have yet to meet anyone that defends these
>>719594732>ring path in the wall make you think there's a shortcut to skip one of the spring yard block elevators>take it>it's a dead end and I have to go backPisses me off every time
>>719594732So when are we mentioning the >step on this to go at max speed and let the game play itselfwheels that 2 introduces??
>>719594732the only strictly mandatory elevator in Spring Yard is the first one in Act 3 iirc
>>719595242act 1 has 1, act 3 has 2
>>7195776581 does have it's own unique appeal in the trilogy. It fells like a more pure platformer, and a damn good one for the time. I think up outside of labarinth zone you can have alot of fun using the physics to skip segments, thinking of marble zone mainly.
>>719595676act 1 can be overtaken with speed shoes,act 3 can be bypassed if you're faster than the block
>>719578101Marble zoneLabyrinth zone
I play Sonic 1 when I want a snack.Sonic 2 when I want a meal.Sonic 3 when I want a feast.
>>719594836>
>>719578101Lol OK
3&K is my favorite but the others are good too. I think it's telling that each one only has like one shit zone>Lab zone in 1>Metropolis in 2>Mushroom Hill in 3&kEverything else is a blast
>>7195802713&k will always be the best one
>>719591186>SandopolisI liked that one, cool Egypt stage that leads into Lava Reef
>Um actually this highly praised game was never good!Every time with your retro niggers
>>719597769>Mushroom Hill in 3&K???
>>719597769>Mushroom Hill in 3&kNigga it's the first zone
>>719596926What's her problem?
>>719598253>>719598284I just do not care for its aesthetic or music compared to the other levels in 3&k. It's not even awful but it's a silver in a game with gold
>>719577658Unless you played a version of 1 that added spindash to it, this was not "more of the same"
>>719591186Sandopolis is overhated. Act 1 is fantastic, and while act 2 is a little slower, it still got incredible atmosphere.
>>719598216Thats just /v/ in a nutshell
>>719578101They're different games in very different design philosophies to the point that it's hard to simply call 2 a sequel. It just so happens most people prefer 2 across nearly every regard.
>>719598583Amy's immodesty is unladylike and especially inappropriate at her age.
>>719598216>um games are never overrated
>>719599808Overrated is a buzzword
>>719599839You can pick whatever term you prefer for games that get more praise than they deserve.
>>719599951How about shutting the fuck up?Games are classics for a reason, if every game was "actually lel bad" then all of Sonic should count.I could nitpick Sonic 1 all day, you're not going to tell me a game that has something like labyrinth zone is a well designed game that stands the test of time
>>719583228Not a theory, it's 100% why younger people say Sonic 2 is better than 3&K and why they say Mario 3 is better than SMW. If they didn't have save states they would never get past the 5th world in Mario 3 without flutes and rage quit after the 3rd game over.
>>719600673Sonic 2 is harder than 3&K
>>7195802712 was always more highly regarded than 3&K.2 > 3&K > 1 > CD
>>719600718That's my point, a big reason why Sonic 3&K and SMW are more fondly remembered is because they had real saving built into the games, on top of being "easier" but in reality the saves made it so the games could be a lot longer (and harder) while feeling easier. Beating Sonic 3&K without saving would be harder than Sonic 2.
>>719578101True.
>>719601419>Beating Sonic 3&K without saving would be harder than Sonic 2.No it wouldn't. Nothing is remotely challenging in S3&K. It's all themepark set pieces and introduced some of the worst elements of the Sonic series. Sonic 2 is simply a harder game and Sonic 1 is harder than both.
>>719601572>some of the worst elements of the Sonic seriesokay I'll bite, what elements?
I remember all the zones in Sonic 1&2 but almost none of them from 3&K.
>>719601768Stage gimmicks that slow down the platforming like standing on mandatory rotating platforms (hydrocity, carnival night etc). Autorun sequences (angel island etc). Time wasting gimmick switches (sandopolis etc). Bosses where you have to wait to hurt them, padding out the battle (doomsday etc). That's why knowers always say Sonic 2 is a more "pure" representation of gameplay for Sonic and part of the reason it's more highly regarded. Sonic 3&K is a more is less type of game where they went full gimmick instead of improving core gameplay.
Behold! The best Sonic character of all time.
>>719602192>characterhardly
>>719601572The only hard zone in 2 is Metropolis, and that's because of shitty level design and enemy placements. Death Egg is also hard if you even count that as a zone, but only because the bosses are jank and there are no rings.
>>719596540Marble zone is good
>>719602496>bosses are jankRetard
>>719597769>mushroom hill>shitI think its a stronger opener than angel island, personally.
>>719600073A game that has something like Labyrinth Zone is a well-designed game that stands the test of time.
>>719602639Har har
>>719602547Death egg robot is jank and everyone knows it. Unless you've only played it the exact same way for 30 years, maybe I could understand forgetting how jank it was before you had a strategy.
>>719601572>Sonic 2 is simply a harder game lol if you're a terrible player, yeah.Sonic 2 becomes a slog without a save feature since it has so many levels, but it’s definitely not hard.. it just gets boring halfway through the game.
>>719602841>Death egg robot is jank Retard.
>>719580271The Genesis games have nothing on Waku Waku Sonic Patrol Car.
>>719583041I really dont like Sonic 3's sprite and I dont know why. Maybe the black of his eyes are too small or huge hands.
>>719602191what the fuck are you even talking about? S2 had a lot of obstacles and platforms that also slow you down
>>719583041>2 is 1 with a new coat of paint>3 is a complete cartoonification
>>719577658classic sonic sucks balls unless you're into replaying for speed optimization
>>719578101I can understand how someone can like 1 more than 2, but its not more of the same at all
>>719589959>>719590092>>719590372>he thinks hidden palace is part of the game because he's only played some recent remakestop fucking outing yourselves as zoomers
>>719597542>you can literally interact with it at several speeds and even go thru it backwardsso 2 introduces the worst version of it?
>>719606874>>he thinks hidden palace is part of the game because he's only played some recent remakenowhere did I say i thought it was part of the game, i said i forgot it even existed you dumbass
>>719602191>Stage gimmicks that slow down the platformingSonic 1 had those. It had a lot of those.>Autorun sequences (angel island etc)Don't say etc, list them out. What else is there besides the one thing in Angel Island Act 2? Then justify why they are worse than something like Sky Chase>Time wasting gimmick switches (sandopolis etc)Functionally no different than getting air in an underwater stage>Bosses where you have to wait to hurt themSonic 1 has those too, so does Sonic 2
>>7195776582 is the peak.
>>719607959Agree
The main reason I rank Sonic 2 slightly lower is that it's special stages are ass. The choppy turns and dips in the fake 3D half-pipe make it impossible to react to oncoming objects which requires you to just memorize the stages so you can be standing in the right spot before the rings even spawn in. What makes it worse is that not only does playing with Sonic and Tails mean you'll get cucked constantly by the CPU Tails stealing and losing rings, you need to collect extra rings each stage because the devs thought he somehow was making the stages easier.
>>719583041For me it's Sonic 1.>>719583543He looks like Adventure Sonic. That's a good or bad thing depending on which side of the debate you fall on.
Have you guys played Triple Trouble 16Bit? Might be the best fangame I've played.https://youtu.be/wfb5VF00FfA
>>719588351>let's check out xhis/xhos/xhus favorite game ever....oh.
>>719609823I love that one.
and yet....
Why do zoomers hate Sonic CD?
>>719613195it's already too intelligent for them.
>>719577658Cybershell I know you're in here.Where's the Tempo bonus video?
>>719577658sexual assault 2 is the only actually good sonic game
>>719615227Sexual Assault 1 is better you retard.
>>719615779if I was lying I would say 1 is better than 2 too yeah
>>719615227>>719615779Sex is better
>>719615913Nope. Neither of them has Gamma.
