The desire for good (read: arcade) game design is finally coming back into fashion.
Try that again with a video games image, you tourist.
>>719579647It's just the schizo that can't stop talking about that guy and going apeshit over arcade games filtering them.
>>719579527Matthewmatosis for people that have aids
Mork
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>>719579647wtf rude
>>719579527>>719579814It's a real shame. I thought Mark would have been a true MM successor. His Stellar Blade video was so different to what everyone else was saying. His videos are just insufferable, repetitious rambles now.
>>719580968He has some actually good and refreshing opinions that almost no one else in the online space is voicing like the demonisation of people who actually want to get good at games and game design that caters towards players who want to put in hours honing a skillBut then he also has some of the most retard takes imaginable like "Megaman X is a bad game because you can't control X like a ship in a shmup" He's incapable of considering things within the context they exist and thinks that good game design is universal and objective and what is good design in one game is therefore good design in every game
>>719579527You sound like a tranny.
>>719580968>>719581553>I NEED LE E-CELEB TO TELL ME WHAT TO THINK
>>719581553His view that arcade design is the fundamental basis of games drives me up the wall. As well as his gameplay is all that matters view.
>>719580968Because he took on his own Faustian bargain and assumed that since he went viral a few times, he could pivot from "the shmup guy" to a full-time gaming youtuber. Except he's still "the shmup guy" on top of doing suspiciously contrarian reviews of modern games. AND on top of this he's trying to run a Patreon like a breadtuber would, with extra podcasts and stuff. If Mark had a good work ethic and could pump out videos as quick as his peers, he'd be golden right now. There's definitely a drought of analytical gaming content on Youtube right now, but Mark doesn't have the personality or even really the autism to fill in that gap. Under The Mayo is an annoying faggot, but he's keen about games in the style of nu-DOOM or classic RE. Then there's Pariah695, who is basically retired now but understands Sonic's game design better than basically anyone on the platform and articulates it as such. Even small-timers like Feeble King do a better job of going against the grain. Mark is a good guy, he can talk well and I like his hot takes, but that's not enough to make someone worth listening to. Ultimately, his content just fits right in with the other video essays, he's still just some guy with a microphone and not a legitimate authority on the subjects he claims to be knowledgeable about. One reason MatthewMatosis is so respected is because he didn't hold himself to a higher standard and stuck firmly in his wheelhouse. Once he realized he had said all he could, he stopped. Now his catalog of videos will last forever as the gold standard of gaming analysis. Besides ShmupSlam and "Stellar Blade sucks lol" what will Mark's legacy as a youtuber be once he decides to go back to his day job?
>>719579527"COMPULSIVE FAIRNESS" is the funniest shit I've ever read
>>719581894I'm always suspicious of anyone who's as consistently and aggressively contrarian as Mark is. It never comes across as genuine, sure some people are just wired in a way to where there tastes will almost never align with the masses but Mark's brand of contrarianism feels forced.It feels more like he's developed a complex of always viewing himself as the outsider and underdog in every space he occupies so therefore must take the contrary position at all times
>>719581809It's not that I need an e-celeb to tell me what to think. It's that what I have thought for the past 20 years was never considered a valid opinion until an e-celeb appeared who legitimized it and got others to listen rather than dismissing it right away.It comes with the unfortunate side effect of a lot of the discussion being dumbed down and marked with meme-tier jargon like "mechanical darwinism" and "gameplay density" which are only used because it helps the average Neanderthal gamer digest and comprehend these concepts instead of brushing them off. But it's a small price to pay.
>>719580968that's because he got boghog to ghost write his vids now
>>719579527Video games, faggot, VIDEO GAMES!
im not gay but mork is cute and handsome and charismatic and i listen to his sweet voice when i go to sleep and dream about mechanical density
>>719581553>Megaman X is a bad game because you can't control X like a ship in a shmuphe did not say this lol, he was just drawing a comparison between the genres.he has buster only challenges on his channel bro he doesn't hate it
>>719582273He's contrarian but not in a way that is much different from you (probably) or me. He often calls himself a hipster who just takes popular art very seriously and enjoys scrutinizing it.
>Demon's Souls is a masterpiece
if your game needs more than four buttons and eight-way movement its not aryancade
>>719583435Good post
Arcade games are just digital carnival games. And if you don't like carnival games, then what are you doing even gaming in the first place?
>>719583435I'm glad he got a haircut. He can't pull off the long hair, too thin.
>>719579814Matt was a retard. Mork's DS2 review will top his in every way.
>>719586894This is ironic as it's modern games that fit the mold of "games as a theme park". You're along for the ride. Mastery is an afterthought.
What is Marks genetic makeup? Sometimes I think he looks Italian or Spanish, but I'm starting to wonder if he's Israeli...
>>719581561Go fuck yourself. You wouldn't say that shit IRL.
>>71958010910/10 taste in shmups at least.
>>719588448Spanish-Frenchand "Israeli" is not an ethnicity, unless you're a gay retard who needs to a code word to avoid saying "Kike"
>>719588448>blue eyes>israeli
>>719589321
>>719589464>NOOOOOO TRUST ME GOY IM TOTALLY WHITE JUST LIKE YOUUUUUUUUKike-kun, I....
>>719585193it's almost like all faggots wanna do in here is chat shit. almost
>>719589464>>719589536>exactly one minute apartUhhhh whats going on here
I never really liked Mork because fuck you for bringing more fags into arcade or shmups, but at least I could agree with the sentiment since I like these games myself for similar reasons. The rest of his content sounds kinda dogshit tho
>>719579527Inappreciate that he plays Super Metroid with a stick. I tried it myself and that shit's fun.
>>719589464>posts literal german model
>>719590734I watched some making of RE1 documentary and I noticed they had a playstation hooked up to a arcade cabinet and played it with a arcade stick.Pretty interesting
>>719582298He's a cookie cutter incomparison to that real og sperglord Icycalm
>>719581875>As well as his gameplay is all that matters view.That's a cookie cutter arcade fag forum view #99999.
>>719582298Holy Dunning-Kruger effect
>>719592157>As well as his gameplay is all that matters view.Its not even true for shoot em ups, dog shit soundtrack or art direction can very much break a game
>>719591590Mork is an idiot full of himself that sometimes bites more than he can chew, but he's not a literal grifter who deliberately and shamelessly lies and tries to brainwash people like Icycalm.He's not a literal wanted felon who's constantly dodging the authorities like Icycalm either, so as much as you can rightfully dislike Mork for being a loud mouthed, midwit moron I wouldn't really associate him to a criminal like Icycalm because Mork is too candid about his stupidity.
>>719593636Does he still have that pay for membership forum?
>>719594127I think so, the last grift from him I heard of is trying to get people to pay him as an internet GM for some Pathfinder games on Steam.
>>719579527Lobotomized Matthewmatosis
>>719594314that would be a compliment
I think Mork is overhated and some anons ITT act like jilted lovers or some shit just because he's got a different opinion they don't agree with.
>>719579814>my eceleb is better than other ecelebYou all fucking losers. Kill yourselves you eceleb obsessed losers.
I've seen this guy's face like twenty times but still don't know what channel this is supposed to be.
>>719595446The morkin channel.
>>719595446youtube autist that thinks that every video game should be an arcade game
>>719595141Thisevery thread with him is just fags upset he isn't the exact embodiment of what they want to convey to the public
>>719595518>Plays Danmaku Unlimited 3 with the music off>Plays Silent Hill 2 Remake with the impaired vision option on>R-Type Leo is the best R-TypeStand back, I am beginning to Mork!
>>719595943Danmaku Unlimited 3 does have a shitty soundtrack so I don't blame him
>>719594314MM can only dream of coming up with such genius terms as "mechanical darwinism" and "gameplay density"
Mark has no credibility as the hardcore arcade gamer he presents himself as. He's extremely casual and has barely achieved 0.01% of what the actual players have. You're a mindless sheep if you actually listen to anything he says.
>>719579527Never left, and the impending Harry Potter pinball game looks great.
>>719579527agree with these ideals but this man has abysmal taste
>>719579527
>>719595141I think basically all of his non-arcade videos are fucking stupid but it's so easy to just not watch them
>>719597873Nevermind I see this is a thread about some fag no one has ever heard about rather than a genuine arcade game thread.
>>719597746I don't care about his lack of sweaty virgin achievements. I hate him because he's a fucking idiot.
>>719579527>married with children>successful youtuber in a niche space>innovated gaming critique>chad god gamer at the highest levels of competition in fighting games, smash, and shmups>incredible interviewer and orator>former triathlete>well read bibliophile that sticks to the classics>solo game developer >author>handsome and fitAnything Mork can't do?
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=1584917#p1584917https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=1583599>The shmup community views this guy as a clueless grifter>/v/ glazes him
>>719598336stop sucking dick fag
>>719598361>a bunch of random boomers who spend their entire time on an obscure internet forum from 20 years ago is the entire shmup communitywow
>>719589464>"let us destroy palestine together, aryan-kun"Kike-sama, I....
>>719598842>a bunch of random boomers who spend their entire time on an obscure internet forum from 20 years ago is the entire shmup communitySounds about right.
>>719598361>Mork hatewatchers furiously looking up random ccomments on the shmups forum to validate their irrational hatredYou're self serving a compulsion loop that is leading you into mechanical anti-darwinism! Get help!
>>719598336Talk about Nightreign, Clair, Deltarune. The boat can't stay afloat if talks about his favorite games 90% of the time.
>>719599635>NightreinMork would like it.>ClairMork would hate it.>DeltatroonMork would be indifferent to it.
>>719588143No irony here. Fight me in skeeball, foo
>>719580109God I wanna undress her
>>719599932Do you dare shoot as many ducks as me?Get as many baskets?Fuck, i miss carnival gamesBEAT MY HIGH SCORE IN ADDAMS FAMILY PINBALL, SON!!
>>719595575>sause isn't porndisappoint
>>719595141They hate him because most of /v/ consumes AAA movie slop daily.
>>719599579I help myself by shitting on Mark.
>>719599772Legitimately hating Clair is free ad revenue if the RE4 remake video is anything to go off of. Get that money today before those kids asked for overpriced copies of the latest Pokémon and all.
>>719582273>>719585629You have to understand that Mark has a chip on his shoulder against the industry ever since Nintendolife never requested another review from him. His persecution complex also compounded when the older playerbase didn't unanimously share his views. You can literally see this from his behavior to the reactions of his original R-Type Final review and his accusations of boys' club cheating collusion on a long forgotten high score forum. There's a reason why he started gaining traction when he focused his identity as the "input lag" guy. Kind of reminds me of a certain old FGC figure, actually.Personally I just don't find his videos very entertaining nor enlightening. He's not the most lucid speaker or writer; his monologues come across as though he's arguing with someone and trying really hard to win (for fairness I haven't watched him in a long time now). I dunno if the guy can just chill and not take things too seriously.
>>719579814Matthews soul arts video is a testament to his absolute dumbfuckery
It's definitely nice to have someone with that perspective, but of course that's not the final say for someone who really likes JRPGs, or old Western PC games in their heyday. Atmosphere, exploration, and, yes, story are what's important for me, even if I do quite enjoy a decent action game.
>>719582273He loves a lot of mainstream, high selling, highly reviewed games though so no he isn't a contrarian.
Where the FUCK is the video about Fallen Feathers? That video sounds way more interesting than this one.
>arcade design>goodThere should be 20 minutes of content gated behind difficulty that kills 99% of players in order to compel them to put in more quarters.Arcade design is literally, and I mean this it is literally just as psychologically manipulative as gachashit. Always had been.
>>719601071
>>719600160And then what
>>719601071>having a hard game you're meant to put time in to get good while constantly dying (extremely frictional, unlike gacha) without any reward aside from your own effort being retarded is literally the same as chink mobile casino slopkys
>>719601071>Casualfags have to spend more moneyidk that sounds kinda based bro
>>719601267I have roms on computer that are older than you are and more than one 1cc under my belt.>>719601498>you're meant to get good atNo you're not. The difficulty curve exists not as some concession to human ability but to keep you tantalizingly close to 'if I just put in one more quarter I can finish'. The treadmill eventually ends but it's because of development time limitations and how you can't create programming and assets for a 30 hour arcade game.
>>719601267The image macro that nvked /v/ to high heavens
>>719601071Your post is incredibly retarded and disingenuous. You've probably never actually been to the arcades in your entire life.
there is people here that unironically enjoy playing trash movie games over and over againor the latest rollslop, all of them are the same shitgames with arcade design are the most fun ones, there is a reason that "roguelites" becamse very popular on pc, they are the closest to arcade games these days
>>719601726>EVERY SINGLE ARCADE GAME IS WORTHLESS DOGSHIT YOU STUUUUUUPID FUCKING CHUD!!!!!>but also I've spent enough time to get multiple 1ccs.... but not like I like them or anything baka!!You already tried this last thread morky schizo
>>719600261Whenever I post that I get the same response I feel you brother
>>719601726>you're not meant to get goodWhy do arcade games have endings then? Why didn't devs just keep making infinite loop games?
>>719579527Arcade games lost their popularity because they became completely derivative, it's a good thing that there's more to gaming now.
this guy is a gigantic tool
>>719601267having to compare arcade games to the lowest-hanging fruit in existence has to be an automatic self-own
>>719601927"arcade" just means a run-based game where the focus is on a pre-determined / overall deterministic set of content and player skill.
>>719602005ironic >>719601071
>719602005>719602085>say retarded shit>get completely BTFO>UMMM BUT THE FACT YOU HAD TO INTERACT WITH MY ARGUMENT IN ORDER TO DISPROVE IT IS A SELF OWNkys
>>719602075They're more so defined by their simplicity.
>>719602085>being an illiterate fucktardthat post is comparing arcade games to gacha in order to insult arcade games.your image is desperately comparing arcade games to gacha in order to point out how much "better" arcade games are, as if that means anything. this is why it's a self-own. you are literally too retarded to breathe.
>>719601813>>EVERY SINGLE ARCADE GAME IS WORTHLESS DOGSHIT YOU STUUUUUUPID FUCKING CHUD!!!!!Where did I say that? I said they're inherently psychologically manipulative and that precludes them from being "good" design. If the quarter vortex is the most important thing to an owner operator, then the design will spend most of its time trying to create that. It's only logical. Fun is subordinate to economics in the developers mind.I like some arcade genres and I have 1cc runs of a few arcade games. But I very much prefer the early console games that were inspired by arcade games but free of their economic constraints.
>>719602394>your imagemeds
>>719602420The most important thing is that the game must be hard enough to get the player to put in quarters, but at the same time be easy and fair enough that player doesn't feel cheated. It's a tightline that promotes a perfect difficulty curve, not an unfair one.
>>719601071Arcade games had some of the best developers ever putting everything they had into it and it spawned many genres and innovations that spread everywhere else in the industry. Gacha has a bunch of nameless chinks and pajeets making slop games that wont be preserved or remembered and the only innovations are how to extract as much cash as possible before the ""game""shuts down forever.
>>719602345Define "simple". A game being put in an arcade environment needs to be "pick up and play", sure.
>>719602409Arcade games and shmups are literally teaming with tranny freaks, who do you think you're fooling here
>>719602580
>>719602580entire internet is full of freaks including this website.
>>719602580tranny freaks breath air and drink water too, guess you'll have to stop doing that now
>ITT
>>719595141The dude is a single step above that absolute retard UnderTheMayo in terms of analysis. Mork at least tries to appear systematic, but a lot of the time he fails to do anything except create terms for no fucking reason.Above all else he's stuck in the past.
>>719602568As in there's not nearly as much you can do in comparison to other games and overall game logic being less complex.
>>719579647fpbp
>>719603117Define exactly what you mean with several examples.Until you do so, this is essentially meaningless conjecture and empty posturing.
>>719579527morky mork
>>719603101>Mork at least tries to appear systematicDoes he, though? The terms he makes up aren't just pointless, they're load-bearing.
>>719602075Isn't that just shmups and beat 'em ups?
your le 1cc shmup boomer will never take off, he's too closeminded no matter how many pseud buzzwords he comes up with
>>719603175>Define exactly what you mean with several examples.Compare sim-racing games and arcade racing games. The latter is thought of as arcadey in large part because they don't pay any consideration to most mechanics of driving, they're simple in that regard. You can also compare games like Ninja Gaiden Black to your average beat em up, there's a ton more mechanics in the former so arcade games are simple in that regard.
>>719603501>>719603572>deleted at the same timeis this nigga falseflagging his own threads?
>>719603501Sadness and isolation
>>719603561NGB is as simple as Streets of Rage 2
>anti-mork schizo is a mentally ill tranny faggot
>>719603429He thinks he can come up with categories whenever he needs to make a point when categories arise from the study and understanding of a subject; he doesn't get that the terms he tries to use to appear smart are more "found" than they're "made".Because of that what he says often doesn't survive scrutiny.When I said he was stuck in the past, I didn't just mean he's fixated on older games; he tries to analyze things the way people did in the mid 2000s, when everyone tried to make videogames appear smart and serious.Hell, the dude doesn't even particularly care about game theory as a whole, or even the history of videogames before the NES. He's just a dude with a shtick.
>>719579527Stop posting this dunning Kruger effect faggot. He’s not smart.
>>719588706which?
cute
>deleting porn but not the thread
>>719604185>this sold 150k copies in America
>makes a video about how he's all in on T8>the state of T8he needs to give up the FGC sidehustle
>>719604026By mere fact of it being 3D it's already more complex. Even just from a game devs perspective there's a lot more to consider in a 3D game.
>>719604358Most weebs had a 360 in that era.
>>719604187>jannies in charge of being intelligent
>>719604387no one could've predicted T8 becoming such a massive dumpsterfire that somehow even surpassed sf6
>>719582987Kill yourself pignoy.
>>719604447It's more of a push and pull.With less complexity, you can push the mechanics you already have much more.Consider the fact that with a 2d game, you can see the entire field at once, as opposed to a 3d one where there are universally camera issues just because of the nature of a 3d field.But just as well, having more complexity can lead to more complicated interactions, but only as long as each mechanic has importance.
Stop shilling your shit channel and get a pop filter you fucking cheap faggot
>>719604545The writing was on the wall for a good while just reading T7 patch notes and their presentations leading up to T8's release and first season. Instead he decided to become another lightning rod for modern bad. It's why I can't take the nigga seriously.
>>719598361What is it then? Something he does is setting everyone off. Do people just sense the bullshit?
>>719598842yeah, pretty much
>>719579527I've been playing Super Monkey Ball for the first time and it's pretty much the textbook definition of arcade game he likes. He should put his money where his mouth is and "analyze" it. However, knowing him it wouldn't surprise me if he only plays the first couple of Worlds and focuses all the "review" on one single, semi-isolated subject and then proceeds to draw a conclusion only through that.
>>719604178Twinkle Star Sprites. That's the game the art is from, anyway.
