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No idea why the other thread was deleted.
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>Tsujimoto: First of all, we have a track record of having sold a total of 28.5 million copies of Monster Hunter: World. We need to promote Monster Hunter Wilds in a way that effectively appeals to that user base.

>One of the key points in this case is price. "Monster Hunter: World," which has been on the market for about seven years, is currently selling for $9.90. In comparison, "Monster Hunter Wilds" is priced at $70. How many users will buy it at that price range?

>Furthermore, since the main platform is the PlayStation 5 (PS), we had to take that into account to determine whether we could achieve an initial sales figure of 10 million units. In that regard, we used the data we had accumulated up to that point to develop marketing that would reach the target user demographic.

F2P will win.
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All they have to do is optimize their shit
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>>719584703
>No idea why the other thread was deleted.
Because mods are snoyggers and got mad
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>>719584703
You would not need to sell 500 million copies if you did not spend billions developing the game. As usual, it is a spending issue.
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>>719584703
Boy I can’t wait for it to brick a bunch of Switches or something.
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>>719585064
I hope Capcom realizes that graphicfagging is a dead-end and go back to making fun games again
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>>719584703
>the response to the Switch 2 was better than expected
What does that even mean?
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>>719584703
Companies should realize that when they push for open world games with realistic graphics they are limiting their potential audience with the kind of hardware required. All of the most popular games run on toasters.
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>>719584703
That's more cope than the average /v/ thread. The game runs like shit that's why it's not doing great, it has nothing to do with the ps5, especially since you can play it on pc as well.
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>>719584703
so, are they just not going to have the B-team make a new game this time? just keep running damage control for wilds until the mythological day it matches world's success(lmao)
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>>719585332
>we were certain that it would fail
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>>719585332
It sold better than he thought it would. It was the fastest selling console of all time so it sold better than almost everyone thought it would to be fair to him
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>>719585292
Fat chance. They'll double down and market 15 fps as a cinematic experience
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isn't ps5 selling as many consoles as ps4 was in the same spam of time?
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Look, I'm tired pretending everything is fine just because another sales record was broken. MH has been on a downward trajectory ever since MHGU. Yes the the new mosnters are all cool, god I wish I could fight them in a better game.
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>>719585397
World's success is the worst thing that happened to this franchise
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>>719585517
nope. it has been selling below it for a while now.
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>>719585332
it means "we're still trying to pretend we don't realize that Japan is now a Nintendo-only country"
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>$70 game sells less than a $10 game

Wow no shit?
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>>719585517
It's slightly less than the ps4 at this point in time last time I checked, he's just covering his ass over the shit optimization.
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MAYBE IF IT RAN THE(MY) DECK


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>719585332
There was no way to guess the Switch 2 would've done so well after the Switch 1 did so badly, I mean became the best-selling console of all time. Wait a minute...
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How many interviews are they going to have coping about the fact that nobody wants to play that boring ass unoptimized game? Just get over it Ryozo, this is sad.
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>>719585876
they have to protect the nepo baby.
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>>719585332
>we were hoping it would flop so we wouldn’t be forced to support it
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>>719585727
I wish it was possible to let the shareholders know of the real problems and fuck-ups instead of hoping the game does horribly
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>>719585332
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>>719586019
only way to do it is become a shareholder yourself and buy enough shares to be able to ask questions at investors' meetings.
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>>719585569
That's not the point.
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>>719584703
>target the absolute bare minimum that is considered playable on PS5
>surprised that it runs like shit on everything else as well
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>>719585619
worse, it's crapcom, they were constantly pretending japan was a dead market because snoy was dead there first (and is noy dying everywhere else too but alas) so in reality is closer to "we were still trying to pretend japan was an irrelevant market where an irrelevant company selling bing bing wahoo now has 90% of the marketshare"
if crapcom is smart we are gonna get rise 2
if they aren't, we will get wilds on the switch and we will get wilds 2 in 3 years (if crapcom is lucky)
>>719585849
>I mean became the best-selling console of all time.
thrice mind you
and likely a fourth time after snoy raises the 160m mark again with shipments from lemuria
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30 fps is not "running like shit." Evey MH has run at 30 fps on their home platform.
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>>719585517
I think a shitload of PS5s vanished into the great pandemic void. Prestige items that are now collecting dust in some normies closet. How else do you explain why every PS5 focused game doesn't do so great?
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>>719586234
they'll just port Outlands to switch 2.
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>>719586298
It's the 2020s
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I have Wilds on PS5. It runs about as well World did on PS4, and as others have already stated in this thread, the PS5 isn't underselling. This is just a cope because (a) the game runs terribly on PC after half a year, and (b) the game is too easy. At this point, I don't even know if an expansion can save the game from it's "improved" quality of life.

Also, the game looks like shit, too. All the detail goes into faces, armors, and monsters. Regular clothing looks terrible, especially in cutscenes.
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>>719584703
Why aren't they blaming themselves for making a shit game?
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>>719586174
Yes it is
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>>719586417
see
>>719585950
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>>719586298
when hardware costs a grand (after you include the disk drive and vertical stand) and it's constantly shilled as the strongest video gaem device evar, 30 fps is objectively inexcusable dogshit
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>>719585332
They were hoping for WiiU2.
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>>719586329
>(a) the game runs terribly on PC after half a year,
it actually runs worse now than it did at launch because all three performance updates intended to fix problems just made the game run worse
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>>719586417
The western world has completely lost its sense of shame, so for a company as large as Capcom to feel truly "global," so must they
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>>719586525
Have you tried deleting your shader cache?
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>>719586536
Japanese devs actually addressing their issues has never been a thing, nip businessmen have been always on the cutting edge of "ignoring real problems to shift blame" of business
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>>719586329
>It runs about as well World did on PS4
In other words, like shit.
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>>719586613
No, I haven't. Does that work?
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>>719586613
people on various communities have tried all sorts of fixes anon
it's a well documented problem the game straight up runs worse now, with some nvidia cards reinstalling the game and flushing shader cache tends to make the game run EVEN WORSE
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>>719584703
At least post the source.
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Monsta Hunta Raizu 2 on Switch 2 will save the series
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>>719584703
>spend YEARS making PC your main platform
>you finally achieve that
>proceed to shit out one of the worst PC ports in years
>admit PC sales after launch are terrible but console is doing "alright"
>now they say PS5 is the problem
>even dreaming of making a Switch 2 version when PS5 is already struggling

They 100% know the "performance fixes" at the end of the year won't do jackshit and they are trying to find more ground on console.
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>>719586657
>In other words, like shit.
Well, yeah...
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>>719586619
>Japanese devs
crapcom isn't japanese and hasn't for almost a decade now anon
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>>719586738
I currently have more faith in their more orthodox approach to the franchise.
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>>719584703
>Hey Capcom I heard you want to sell as many copies as you can
>hehe yeah we do!
>cool, how about you let me save swap between my PC and console, I'll gladly give you more money to buy a second copy.
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T EVER EVER SAVE SWAP
fuck capcom
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>>719586672
It fixes the problem of the game lagging after an update, but even if you don't do that, the game should fix itself in an hour or so.
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>>719584703
I know what to do when certain someone starts is spam when the next famitsu thread arrives.
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>>719586536
Bro please, the dreamcast was so dead it was starting to smell and SEGA was still assuring its shareholders that all was well.
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>>719584703
Is there any chance for performance to not be absolute garbage in the future? The game hardly looks better than World yet runs significantly worse.
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>>719585292
wilds looks like shit thoughbeit
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>>719586843
The most retarded thing is that Capcom ID was supposed to do exactly that, allow crossplay and crossave.
But since they are going all out on MTX, they don't want you to keep your purchases between consoles.
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I can't believe no one told them their story fucking sucked and auto-ride and chat is cancer during dev time.
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>>719586761
>>even dreaming of making a Switch 2 version when PS5 is already struggling
i legit don't think they can even optimize the REngine to run wilds on the switch 2 at all, unless they are willing to put out something that technically runs at 10fps 480p AFTER DLSS
people rightfully have repeated over and over REngine works for small detailed games, not for open world shit
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>>719586904
game is CPU bound so no
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>>719586904
They said the "first batch of improvements" will arrive with TU4, which is scheduled for Winter (so last week of December or early 2026).
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>>719584703
I take they were expecting Wilds to immediately outsell World? That is insane, even if Wilds was perfect will take a few years to outpace world's 28 millions.
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>>719584703
>game runs like shit
>people won't play it because it runs like shit
>crapcom wondering why people won't buy their game
Maybe because it runs like shit? Bring back loading screens already
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>>719587019
>They said the "first batch of improvements"
they mean the third(or fourth, i lost count)
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>>719586956
they would be fired for daring to go against Ryozo's vision.
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>>719587023
No, the point is that the sales cratered worse than DD2 in comparison
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>>719584981
>One of the key points in this case is price. "Monster Hunter: World," which has been on the market for about seven years, is currently selling for $9.90. In comparison, "Monster Hunter Wilds" is priced at $70. How many users will buy it at that price range?
And now you know why Nintendo never price drops their games.
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Their marketing was cancer.
I think that Marvels: Avengers of a main theme turned off a lot of people.
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>>719584703
game ran ass on PS5 and PC. Switch2 port has no hope.
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>>719587054
Technically yes, but this is supposed to be the "real one" lmao
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>>719586298
>30 fps is not "running like shit."
Maybe if you love eating shit then I'd understand why you'd think that.
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>>719584703
The end of PlayStation and Xbox feels so good
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>>719587132
The removal of the MH Language certainly did for me, and I'm sure for a lot of others as well.
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>>719587141
I think they mean Wilds was a mistake and they should have made Rise2 instead. But capcom thought the switch2 would be a flop because uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh
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>>719586943
makes he hesitant on buying their shit anymore and i love Mon Hun, Ace Attorney and few other of their IPs, but it's just fucking stupid. All of these game companies are losing their freaking minds and forgetting what and who make them billionaires in the first place
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>>719586298
30fps is running like shit, but more importantly it can't even maintain 30fps in the first place.
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>>719586298
The human eye is designed for 60 FPS, 30 FPS is for subhumans.
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>>719587132
The only thing they needed to show was the octopus boss. Such a fun, unique battle.
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>>719585332
like last time they expected it to flop, the japanese don't learn lessons really well
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When are they going to admit that using their RE engine for anything other than RE is a terrible mistake
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>>719587221
I can't lie. I've played monster hunter since Dos and while I will say GU is my all time favorite, I actually had the most fun and put the most hours in Rise (don't care what anyone thinks)
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>>719586060
tbf, the problem with Switch 1 adoption was primarily supply. there's less supply issues with Switch 2.
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>>719587173
>The end of PlayStation and Xbox
What? Was the ps6 and next xbox cancelled?
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I am extremely pessimistic about the idea that Portable 6th won't be infected with the brainrot that got Wilds.
I believe that things will be getting a lot worse before they will be getting better.
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hopefully we get rise 2, not a world or w*lds port
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>>719587335
if they don't hit a homerun with them then they are likely going to be their last systems.
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>>719584703
The point is console prices should be dropping 5 years after launching.
Them going up is absolutely ridiculous.

PS6 is probably gonna be $800 at launch.
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>>719584703
Yeah, it definitely has nothing to do with the poor optimization issue.
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>>719587313
Rise's saving grace was having some really fun weapon setups. Some really cancerous setups too, but like GU there's no need to use those.

You kind of cna't get away with not using the clutch claw in iceborne, or focus strikes in wilds.
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>>719584703
I prefer that they port MH World/Iceborne over wilds to the Switch 2. At least that would run decently on the Switch 2. Wilds will run like shit like it does on consoles and PC.
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>>719587325
According to left wing media, that wasn't the reason
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>game hasn't even been out a year
>people saying it flopped, its over etc

not my fault they keep churning out shitty games every year instead of a decent game every 5 years.
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>>719584703
He ain't wrong.
There is still a decent amount of PS4 players who have not purchased PS5.
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>>719585332
It's selling better than the Switch 1 was when it launched.
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>>719585332
3rd parties have been seething at Nintendo for decades, they were probably hoping for an excuse to not support the Switch 2 but now that it's breaking records they need to explain their lack of support to investors.
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>>719586761
>>spend YEARS making PC your main platform
>>you finally achieve that
Don't forget them adding some Russian malware to their back catalog to fight mods. What a bunch of retards.
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>>719587509
It's the legs. It might end up falling behind World and even Rise.
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>>719584703
They're throwing around every excuse in the book to try and not admit that it runs like shit.
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>>719587383
I honestly can't imagine that, ps5 has no games and sold more than 80 million copies and the xbox someone sold 30 million. The only way I can see either ending is if their parent companies go bankrupt.
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>>719587612
>It's the legs

What? Again, not my fault you churn out a shitty game that is meant to last 1 year instead of 5.
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>>719585332
Any company producing multiplatform games will have analysis to estimate upcoming console sales to make decisions on if projects should be started to prepare to port to those platforms. The Switch 2s early sales have drastically outpaced the Switch 1. They likely expected similar performance, they are surprised by the difference, and are likely considering more ports to it now.
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>>719586921
It could look like a whole sewer if it ran like a dream.
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>>719587413
>saying this on a nintendo dick sucking thread

they won't acknowledge this they'll use this as an upscale when the console would probably still have the same issue because the creator of monster hunters wouldn't optimize this game
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>>719587494
>forbes
>"""""left wing""""""
what kind of bait is this?
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>>719587593
You can sell fucking anything if you've got a launch title while your only competition are indie ports and the 2 obligatory nintendo 1st party games.
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>>719584703
There you have it, World 2 never even, only Rise on switch from now on.
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>>719587798
>Nintendo seethe out of nowhere
Meds
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>>719584703
>Capcom blames PS5 for Wilds flopping
They are taking a page out of orange mans book it seems
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>Don't want to get it on PC because shit optimization they refuse to fix
>Don't want to get it on PS5 because of gay retarded PS+ requirement for online
Guess which one of these is more feasible to fix?
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The game has so little content, tying every fucking feature or update to investigations, which have limited uses to waste people's time, is just pure desperation. Even though the controls are generally very good, it's the most lacking, repetitive game in the series.
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>>719587859
>trying to deflect with polshit
Shoo shoo filthy snoy
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>>719587891
Unironically they'd have an easier time trying to get Sony to drop PS+ than tard wrangling their retarded engine.
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I literally just want scantily clad tribal boys fighting demons. Is that to much to ask for?
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>>719587610
>World at its peak was like the #9 game with most mods on Nexus
>mod community is one of the reasons World had legs so strong on PC
>decide to go after mods anyway because one bong gooner on SF6 streamed a tournament with a nude Chun-Li mod
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>>719584703
>toy company releases childs toy with 15 year old hardware
>it looks and runs like shit

mmm hmm,
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>>719587335
Consoles are dying. People don't want to admit it or they're too blind to see what's going on, but the new generations are all about mobile and PC. Yes, it's true. Gen X and the older millennials were last generations to grow up without smart phones. The zooms and alphas were raised with a cell phone or table shoved in their hands by their single mothers to keep them occupied. They've adapted to the mobile platform much more than the Xs and Mills.
Add to that, smartphones just keep getting more and more powerful with more and more features.
I was laying in bed and didn't feel like moving thanks to a hangover. I pulled my S23U out, turned on my 65" Samsung TV and cast my screen and played Wuthering Waves and then did some 3DS emulation.
The technology is already here and it's getting adapted a lot faster than people think. Xbox is already pushing cloud gaming on TVs with game pass. You don't need a fucking console anymore.
But, the console warriors, brand loyalists, and consoomers here wont admit it.
Shitendo will continue to be successful with thei the form factor of the Switch, mobile will continue to explode, and PC will continue to rise up. Cuckbox and PissStation are doomed. It's only a matter of time.
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>>719584703
PFFFF AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED SNOYGROES CRAPCOM HATES YOU
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Because you're a disingenuous console warring faggot. The highest console sales by far have been on PS5, with it currently being the highest selling version, what with PC sales tanking. The PS5 Pro version's performance is also on par with the highest spec PC version.
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>>719587335
PS6 will be weak and expensive, next Xbox will only be 50% more powerful than the PS5 Pro while being the most expensive "console" ever released.
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>>719584703
Yes, of course, the problem is a console not the fact you made a dogshit game that was worse than its predecessors in every way.
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>>719587815
they are left wing. idpol is the thing that separates right v left
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>>719587979
>"Stop noticing!"
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>>719584703
Lmao what a dishonest cunt. Of course /v/intendogaf would salivate over this statement though.
Next time optimize your shit and leave out the niggers
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>>719587610
You now remember how wilds has THREE goddamn DRM solutions just to dick over modders.
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>>719588202
>The PS5 Pro version's performance is also on par with the highest spec PC version.
LOL, holy fucking shit KEK, LMFAO
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>>719588318
>PS6 will be weak and expensive
shits gonna have 40gb of GDDR7 ram, PC average is 8gb btw...of ddr4..lmao.


https://www.neogaf.com/threads/if-the-40-gb-ram-rumors-for-the-ps6-are-true-pc-gamers-are-in-big-trouble.1687726/
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>>719588202
>he PS5 Pro version's performance is also on par with the highest spec PC version.
you are an idiot.
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>>719588202
Yet you posted no proof of your claim.
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>>719588163
>Consoles are dying
gonna assume you also buy into the "the switch 1 and 2 are not come consoles and don't count" meme given the switch 1 is about to be the best selling console ever for the third time and the switch 2 already is the fastest selling console ever by an order of magnitude compared to the second place
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>>719588480
Wilds on PC is completely fucked, you need a powerful PC just to run on par with consoles
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>>719588465
You really believe that Moore's Law is Dead bullshit?
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>>719584703
Can't World be optimized to run on the Shwitch 2?
I mean they are fucking retarded for not optimizing their games enough, but I guess they are comfortable segmenting their finds
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>>719588465
bruhdder, when in the absolute fuck has ram (not vram mind you) been a metric factor on performance? what in the absolute shit are you on about?
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Imagine this laggy game running on a switch 2 makes me kek, even if they upscale from 240p or something and it looks even worse that e-waste tablet is going to explode
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>>719588690
You can count the amount of times capcom gas gone back to port an older MH game on one hand anon.
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>>719588202
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>>719587856

>>719585986
>>719585849
>>719586738
but don't pretend this isn't just thinly veiled consolewar thread also that they aren't acknowledging that this a dev problem and not a console problem
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This fucking game runs like ass on my 9070 xt, how are they going to get it running on something with the performance of a ps3?
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>>719588545
It's not a console. It's a handheld device. Same the Steam Deck, the ASUS ROG, and the chink handhelds. So, it has a dock that can display out to TV, and? Still not a console. So, keep reaching Tendie.
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>>719588465
THIS is the power of the consolekeks technical knowledge.. wow..
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>>719588956
>All of this seething anger because his shitbox that leaks liquid metal is being called out by one of their biggest supporters in the industry
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>>719588690
>Can't World be optimized to run on the Shwitch 2?
World, probably.
Wilds?
Maybe, but it'd be hard.
The Switch 2 CPU isn't bad, but it's not particularly good either, and Wilds is apparently heavy on the CPU, which is part of why it runs like dogshit.
They'd have to do a LOT of optimization of their dogshit code to get it to run acceptably.
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>>719588956
Switch and Steam Deck also get categorized as Mobile devices as well, Nintendo knew when to dip home consoles, and Valve knew to make a handheld.
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>>719589104
I'll never understand why they got a bunch of literal newbies to make world and Wilds.
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>>719589104
>The Switch 2 CPU isn't bad, but it's not particularly good either,
It's better than the one on the pis5 pro actually
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>>719589104
There's no way in hell wilds is running on the switch 2 unless they completely re-worked the engine or said sub 20 fps is fine, the switch 2 is seriously a weak piece of garbage
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>>719589085
Capcom is calling out the PlayStation not the pc, snoy
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>>719588956
t. Sony's lawyers
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>>719589242
Trolling or retarded?
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>>719589275
That NDS is really showing.
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>>719585332
Didn't learn from the sins of the past and bet against Nintendo again.
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>>719584703
Yeah, THAT'S why.
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>>719589336
Read carefully next time, retard.
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>>719589275
>said sub 20 fps is fine
you mean like how they already did?
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>>719589275
Sub 20? Lol on the switch 2 it would be like 240p sub 10, switch 2 can't even keep 30 fps in cyberpunk with 2 npcs visible, it's comically weak
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>>719589242
Anon, there is no ARM CPU out right now that's better than a ryzen 3000 series.
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>>719585064
>>719585292
Trying to make these open world games on RE Engine has been a disaster. Not only do they run like shit but they're ugly as fuck too. It's weird how good the Resident Evil games and Devil May Cry look relative to Monster Hunter and Dragons Dogma. Both of them are so insanely washed out and lacking in color and contrast.
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>>719589275
Switch 2 isn't too bad, it's just a bit lopsided.
The Nvidia GPU is pretty good, but the CPU is some subpar ARM design from a few years ago that's genuinely weaker than current phone CPUs.
The one thing I personally don't get is why the fuck they decided to have the CPU run at lower clockspeeds in docked mode than in handheld mode.
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>>719589435
>Snoy is upset because his console is shit
That anon is retarded for calling the switch a console ,but he is right that the playstation is shit, cope
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>>719587105
They will never admit Nintendo is right about that.
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>>719584703
80 million consoles sold btw
did they expect every ps5 owner to buy monster hunter?
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>>719584703
Just stop fucking around and make a Switch 2 update for Sunbreak already.
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>>719589537
why lie? oh wait, that's all you can do
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>>719584703
>PS5 ruined their sales
>Switch 2 is doing better than expected
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>>719589646
>Switch 2 update for Sunbreak already.
that'll be $60 for the update, Ninpedo.
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>>719589639
sony counts peripherals like the VR headset and Portal as PS5 sales btw.
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>>719589713
Go look at its phantom liberty performance, which is notoriously a cpu hog, it's laughably bad
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>>719584703
It sounds more like they developed it first for PS5 but they're disappointed by PS5 (the console) sales and how expensive it's become so people don't want to buy it and thus don't want to buy monhun. Capcom should just make games for switch 2 first
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>HURR DURR WILDS CAN'T RUN ON SWITCH 2

You retards know that they can do a Streaming version, right?
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>Capcom calls Playstation out
>Sony trying to appeal to China's nationalism fails in spectacular fashion
>Switching over to MAU instead of units sold as measurements of success
>Sony blew $3.5 billion on buying Bungie with nothing to show
>Bungie is paying people to play Marathon
>Concord is the biggest failure in recorded history
>Fairgames is all but cancelled now that the director left the company because the sinking ship that is WB Games is far more appealing somehow
>Sony's so starved for money they have to open a studio dedicated exclusively to release Playstation games on every other platform
>Raise the prices of anything that has the PS5 brand despite having nothing worth buying it for
>The only place where Sony and Playstation aren't a joke is India
JUST
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>>719589713
Welcome to Night City: population 2
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>>719589813
But it's also on pc, so they have to know the price of the ps5 isn't the reason it's not selling well.
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>>719589765
>Monster Hunter Sunbreak Ultimate
>for 70 bucks
i can see Capcom doing that
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>>719585716
are you genuinely retarded
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>>719589953
Sure but they're talking about Japan first. Even if it's growing in Japan most don't have PCs. This is why I don't understand Japanese companies. It's like they got this slave mentality towards Playstation
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>>719589892
You forgot.
>Hoyo is already suffering despite being one of the main pillars keeping the PiS5 afloat.
>Hoyo pulled the plug on the PS4 port of genshit to cut costs.
>SIE is so strapped for cash they had to sell EVO to literal pajeets.
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>>719589779
source me up homie
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>>719590116
I genuinely forgot because 99.9% of all Sony news are bad news.
Kinda like how their next Absolute State of Play is exclusively for a multiplat.
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>>719590106
I thought that the pc market in japan was rising, but if that's not the case, then they probably have this attachment to playstation because that'd mean it's the only "strong" system they have over there. Xbox is dead in japan, nintendo doesn't care about graphics and making top of the line systems, and if pc isn't that big there, then the only place to make these kinds of games would be the ps
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>>719590228
he deleted the tweet shortly afterwards
can't be giving out company secrets
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>>719590317
a multipat that was randomly announced at a nintendo direct, and showcased in a xbox direct
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>>719590317
and you always know that bad news is coming when all the usual suspects start spamming anti-nintendo threads.
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>>719584703
It was unoptimized to hell and back. The only group they can blame is their devs and director.
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>>719590382
damn
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>>719590510
I'm not a console warring fag since it's cringe as fuck to be a fan of a company but man by far the most annoying thing about this board are all the Nintendo faggots that act like they're persecuted when they make up 80% of this fag board
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>>719588408
And it didn't stop anyone. I'm still using unlimited vouchers and modding in early festival gear. Also the performance would raise significantly if they removed all the DRM, at least 30% uplift.
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>>719590815
>i'm not a console warring fag
>proceeds to console war.
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>>719590815
>t. >>719589720
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>>719590815
Its because they're not gamers. They're tribalistic brand loyalists. Their allegiance is to Nintendo, not the games. Their whole identity is being a "Nintendo fan" - note I said "Nintendo fan" and not a souls-fan, a monster hunter fan, a resident evil fan.
Nintendo fans are the iSheep of the gaming world. Clueless NPC consoomers.
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>>719590873
Calling out how annoying you fags are is not console warring, it's not like I'm defending Sony though you're so obsessed and incapable of not thinking in an us vs them mentality you'll call me a snoy anyway like this retard>>719590882
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>>719585378
Its more then just the game running like shit, its also the lack of content, how easy most of the content is, and the actual challenging content being not even really worth running (most of said content is just reused content but with a numbers change to make it "harder"). Combine that with the absolutely abysmal release schedule for the Title Updates and you get Wilds sales drying up extremely fast.
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>formulating a strategy to boost sales
>wants to get Wilds in as many hands as possible
They'll do everything BUT optimize it
lol
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>>719590593
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>>719590510
The bad news haven't finished raining yet either, nexon (blue archive) just had a worse than nintendo-megaleak-tier catastrophic security breach where the hacker had full access to EVERYTHING in the company and could have outright deleted the game from the app stores due to having access to the admin certificates if he felt like it.
Nexon got astronomically lucky the only thing the guy did was push an update to the game that added a bunch of shitposts by editing some sprites and replacing some 3d models and nothing else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTe1hSlPgug
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>>719590971
>snoy projects again
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>>719586329
It runs a hell of a lot worse on PS5 than on PC. The performance mode still dips below 60 and is horrendously ugly. Runs at like 900p with the muddiest textures you'll ever see. At least top of the line PCs can squeak out 1440p with maxed out settings at 60. Dogshit either way but it's not a PC issue. The game runs like shit everywhere.
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>>719590971
I've really noticed, I was curious about the claim phantom liberty lags like shit so I googled it and someone reported 15 fps and asked how to make it more playable and was met with absolute cultist tier vitriol and no actual help, just a bunch of fags attacking him for daring to imply Nintendo is not perfect. Shits surreal desu, literal golems.
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>partly due to the system's price
What? It costs about three times as much as a PS5 to build a PC that can actually run this piece of shit.
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>>719590378
Nintendo is way bigger than Sony worldwide but especially in Japan. Siding with Sony the loser in the console wars doesn't make any sense. That's why companies like Capcom are so baffling. They were surprised by how successful Switch 2 was and it's like why? They've outsold everything else and it's the only console that makes any sense anymore
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>>719591191
>nooooo don't call out my lies!
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>>719585292
next game will be photorealistic and have 40 hours of railroaded tailing missions
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>>719591224
they're comparing it to the MH world, which was on the PS4, which was 200-250
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>Its because they're not gamers. They're tribalistic brand loyalists.
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>>719591315
Hasn't the PS5 sold about as much as the PS4 anyway?
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>game berated almost solely because of optimization
>blame absolutely every factor except optimization
What's up with devs never admitting their game runs like shit?
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>>719591283
>videos show regular immense frame drops in dogtown
>noooo you're lying
lol
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>>719591140
the PS5 performance is bad but the game runs like gutter trash on anything below a top end PC, it's much cheaper to get a PS5 than it is to get a PC that can run it even on lower settings
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>>719591452
go ahead and post them.
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>>719591448
they want to be a westoid company, and in true westoid fashion they learned to blame everything but themselves for their failures
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>>719591369
You would think so. Sony claims it as much but they also found 20 million surprise ps2 sales last year.
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>>719586761
switch will be the home of "portable" MH games, don't bother with wilds on switch capcom it doesn't even run on pc.
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>>719591692
given their track record, they'll just port Outlands to Switch 2 and call it a day.
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>>719589359
>stating an objective fact is NDS
top kek
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>tendies have a containment sales thread that still leaks into other place
>no you see it's DA SNOYS falseflagging!
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>>719590971
>Its because they're not gamers. They're tribalistic brand loyalists
lmao, are Snoys really saying this, REALLY?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>719584703
its gonna run at like 5 fps on switch 2
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>>719584703
>Wilds on Switch hardware
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdH13BXdNqI
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>>719591779
take a guess who started those threads and only started complaining about them when they were no longer at the top?
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>>719591840
both brands have they're tribalistic brand loyalist
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>>719591914
this shit should've been nuked from the start
who the fuck thought it was a good idea?
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>>719591514
You could just google yourself but you're not interested in the truth, guess I'll spoonfeed you a ss
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>>719591448
>blame absolutely every factor except optimization
They also aren't blaming the game itself despite also being a problem.
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>>719592185
snoys are used to far worse, what's the issue supposed to be here?
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>>719592185
>digital cuckoldry
>testing handheld mode
at least try faggot.
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>>719588408
>You now remember how wilds has THREE goddamn DRM solutions just to dick over modders.
I bet it would run 50% better just by removing all of these. Also better load times across the board.
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>>719592053
Fence sitting won't make it true anon. Whether you like it or not there's only one group out there that acts like that and it's no one that starts with N, X or P.
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>>719584703
but I thought it was a success?
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>>719591448
Because they assume consumers like to eat shit, which is not really wrong
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>>719592267
>deflects with muh snoy
jesus you "people" are fucking npcs, you asked for proof cyberpunk runs like shit on the switch 2, I gave you proof, and you immediately resorted to some irrelevant shit about the gaystation 5
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>>719592387
reminder that this faggot removed the MH Language because he wanted people to take the story seriously
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>>719590815
>are all the Nintendo faggots that act like they're persecuted when they make up 80% of this fag board
Persecuted? Is that what you call it when they mock you?
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>>719592334
>nooo I don't like them so it doesn't count
kys
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>>719592436
ironically enough the removal of that made me give zero shits about anything the NPCs said that isn't literal gameplay menus
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>>719592484
Whining about "anti-Nintendo" threads is mocking? The fuck are you on about
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>>719592053
Nothing comes close to Snoys, even the Xbots that are brand loyal are Snoys wearing a mask. Snoys are the biggest sheeps in the industry, nothing comes close.
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>>719592334
Why even market your system or have it handheld at all if the games on it are unplayable? It really isn't much better in docked either.
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>>719592436
hilariously out of touch with his own product
what the actual fuck
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>>719592561
Since when is
>oh man this guy has Nintendo Derangement Syndrome
And proceeding to egg them on whining?

You really need to learn when you're being farmed for cheap laughs.
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>>719584703
>flopped
didn't it have millions of players at launch?
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>>719584703
Wilds flopped? I had no idea, the preorders seemed very good no? Wilds is the 2025 game right?
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>>719592650
>even the Xbots that are brand loyal are Snoys wearing a mask.
The same could be said of most dissenters. Because they don't have any games to play they just pick the latest one and use it to whine about Nintendo.
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>>719592404
that's all they have in their life they can only deflect
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>>719592528
the removal was the deciding factor in me buying the game or not. I absolutely do not want to hear the stupid shit they make hunters say and the MH language at least helped with that a little..
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>>719592561
Who's whining? This shit is good entertainment.
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>>719592747
>>719592792
Yea
to these tards if the line doesn't go up all the time it's a flop
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>>719592792
sold 10 million and then the sales dove off a cliff while wearing weights into the Marianas Trench.
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>>719592387
The first couple months after Wilds release were fucking insane.
People are saying fans are being MUH TOXIC now, but back at release you couldn't say anything about the game.
Some reviewers got harassed because they gave the game "only" an 8/10
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>>719592747
>>719592792
No legs and missed expectations.
Basically between capcom releasing it on PC day one so it didn't get the double dip bonus and the game running like shit on all platforms people just stopped buying and recommending it with many going back to world and rise.
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>>719592792
>sold super well at launch due to World/Rise hype
>post-launch sales immediately collapsed worse than DD2
Not a particularly good sign
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>>719585517
PS5 sold high simply because it was Covid when it came out and people bought so many just to hoard them. It's telling that damn-near anything on it doesn't sell and how many just collect dust or are still in their original boxes.
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>>719593004
>many going back to world and rise.
Not even that
World and Rise are still slowly declining like they before
People are just stopping to play MH in general and going elsewhere
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>>719593152
ps5 was the only system that didn't receive a covid bump, actually.
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Bruh… Who even wants Wilds???? I’m holding out for Rise 2 or literally anything from Team B.
As long as Tokuda (obsessed with “next-gen” but stuck using last-gen tech) and Tsujimoto (classic nepo baby) are running the show, I’m out. The only way I’d come back is if Fujioka leads Team A again. Otherwise? Hard pass.
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>>719593206
Are you trying to say that the XSX did?
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>had the opportunity to make a MHGU remastered version, which would shit money considering the hype around new MH
>fuck it up

Imagine hating money that much.
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>>719593243
>I’m holding out for Rise 2 or literally anything from Team B.
Fun fact, the World team is the B team.
If you look at the names on the credits only about 5 have ever been on MH before.
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>>719592792
10million is still great numbers so it didn’t really “flop” but they burnt all of the good will they built in the past few years. If Wilds gets a G Rank expansion it’ll do terribly.
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>>719592185
>looks like absolute shite
>20 fps
Why were so many people cooming over this things power before release, it's so fucking bad, it's the Switch 1 all over again, awful ancient hardware that is equivalent to 12 year old consoles but sold for the price of a good GPU
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>>719585130
this but unironically
There's 24/7 anti-nintendo shitpost threads that hit 300+ posts regularly, but if you make an anti-sony thread it gets deleted within 10 minutes and banned for "off topic" or "instigating flame war"
it's very clear where the trannyjannies' loyalties lie
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Maybe they should've made the game fun to play.
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>>719584703
Had they just made it for the ps4 instead this wouldn't have been an issue.
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>say PC is your main platform
https://gamingbolt.com/capcom-announces-that-pc-is-platform-with-majority-of-all-game-sales
>market Wilds for PS5 while letting it run like shit on PC
What did they mean by this?
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>>719592185
lmfao I remember tendies on here were saying it was stronger than the Series S, holy shit get a load of this fuckin' dude
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>>719592404
>deflecting
>in a thread about sony
any compaints about nintendo are the deflection, snoytroon
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>>719593670
>game that runs bad on everything also runs bad on the switch 2
stop trying to deflect from the thread topic
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>>719593670
Why are you replying to yourself, snoyric?
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>>719593773
Strange, it's fully maxed on my PC with ray tracing ultra and running at a stable 1440p 144 fps
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>>719593773
this isn't 2019, cyberpunk is one of the better optimized games out there, the only 3 hardware it runs like putrid dogshit on are the deck, ps4 and now the switch 2
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>>719584703
>begging that sweet switch 2 money
lol get fucked crapcom
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Its amazing how they tried to make big expansive maps with loads of details but it doesnt really matter because your temu chocobo just taxis you around anyways. Whats even the point of maps when all the monsters are visible and you just autorun to the next area anyways?

I recently played MHGU again and its amazing how you actually have to grind to get better gear, and plan your encounters. Idk what monster hunter even is anymore, a social hub for ERPers i guess? I didnt fail a single time thru the entire playthru.
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>>719594217
>Its amazing how they tried to make big expansive maps with loads of details but it doesnt really matter because your temu chocobo just taxis you around anyways. Whats even the point of maps when all the monsters are visible and you just autorun to the next area anyways?
Nothing. It's shit game design. It's game design by checklists
>market research says we need open world
>okay, boss
>but now everything is too far apart
>so we include a mount that auto walks for you
>making the open world useless
brilliant idea
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>>719584703
I think we can all agree the ps5 is the worst console ever.
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Nintendo always wins.
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>>719584703
Mainline Switch 2 exclusive entry incoming.
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>>719594478
still trying to deflect from the main topic?
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>>719584703
>No idea why the other thread was deleted.
because of the anitsnoymatism
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>>719584703
Maybe because it had meme format in the OP.
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>>719588340
/pol/ is leftist?
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>>719584703
RISE 2, MOTHER FUCKERS

HERE WE COME
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>>719584703
as crude as it is, I didn't buy Monster Hunter Wilds because I saw a streamer dress up his male character in female clothes and I despise everything about that
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All this situation is fault Nata, he is a mistake.
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I would've bought it if it was a PS4 game.
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Bleak yet true.
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>>719589359
Love me NDS
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>>719588408
I blame that fucker that turned on Chunli nude mod on official EVO tourney.
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>>719595309
>lite
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>>719584703
>more pozzed and censored and ugly
>game is piss easy, then release 8 star update which 100x's monster health, so hunts take at least 10+ minutes for non-speedruntrannies
>literally so bad that they have more health than fucking Alatreon from world, the second to last Master Rank monster released for it, for -high rank- monsters
>zero content
>game was blatantly unfinished on release, took months to have content that should have been in there
>retarded visual effects present at all times that make the game look blurry and grainy, always, finish/kill shot screens look fucking terrible
>absolute wet fart "finish" to the Zoh Shia shit, which should have had way, way more actual story/lore focus on it, but was glanced over, AGAIN
>retarded collabs that no one gives a shit about, like Street Fighter for the 874th time
>no Dragon's Dogma collab
>keep nerfing shit on some less meta melee weapons while sucking off ranged weapons and Longsword for the nth time in the series
>optimization is fucking awful, second to Dragon's Dogma 2's dogshit performance
>"Hmmm, surely it's because of the piss5 and its cost...", saying that for a game with a base price of $70 and a deluxe version that is $110 (LMAO)
Nah.
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>>719595210
At least Rise had cute girls.
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>>719595428
we both know crapcom was desperately looking for excuses to fuck over modders tho
those cosmetic micro-transactions aren't gonna sell themselves if mods exist
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>>719595509
Better screen than the OG and still has the GBA slot.
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>>719594427
You say this in every thread, tendie
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>>719595570
>so hunts take at least 10+ minutes for non-speedruntrannies
Are you implying this is too long? Are you a fucking faggot?
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>>719595634
>replying to yourself because nobody took your bait
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>>719595634
You sound upset at the truth ;)
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>>719584703
>Furthermore, since the main platform is the PlayStation 5 (PS)
Didn't 6 million of those "10 million sold" come from Steam alone?
I remember World was similar in the since that (outside of Japan where Sony won) it sold more on PC than on PS4 in every country.
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learn to read corpospeak

this is just complaining the japanese consumer base refuses to buy a playstation 5 but the switch 2 is also weak as shit yet extremely popular
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>>719595963
So Capcom will graphicstranny itself to death?
Kek
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>>719595701
The zoomer attention span is the cancer that is killing gaming.
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>>719595842
Saying PC is their target platform is tacitly admitting the Chinese are their main target demographic instead of the Japanese
I'm sure that would go over well
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>>719584703
>the main Monster Hunter series could vome to Switch 2
Honestly, fuck that. Only the portable team can save MH now.
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>>719596006
in this case its cpu issues, every REengine game that is remotely openfield/openworld chugs like no other

if wilds chugs on ps5 it would 100% be a technical disaster on switch 2
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>>719596047
It will be funny once China does do games what they did to Hollywood movies.
From one day to the next, 50 percent of all steam accounts will be dead.
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>>719594943
>crude
More like retarded.
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>>719596070
Rise 2 will save us.
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>>719596145
their latest slop flopped hard so it's already happening.
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>>719595701
>>719596009
When the base game hunts take 1.5 minutes, yeah. The disparity is retarded.
I'm honestly tired of the damage controlling shilltrannies that Capcom has all over the site. There is literally no excuse for High Rank monsters having more HP than Master Rank Black Dragon monsters.
This is peak damage sponge, "Just 30x the HP bro" game """""design""""" that /v/ shits all over on the regular, but of course Capcom gets a pass because... t-they made games I liked in the past!!!1!!!
It's valid criticism and that's why all you can do is respond with oldfag larping and buzzword spam, cope.
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>>719595963
>Capcom will commit suicide because of how petty they are
Sounds good to me.
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>>719584981
I thought World was at like 21 million a month ago? How the hell did it jump to 28?
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>>719596375
They just need to eat the losses till their next engine is done and they can live this cursed one behind.
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>>719596458
panic regional sale at -70% off for chinks only
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Wilds sucked ass and ran like ass and this is all blame game cope shit to justify downsizing the monster hunter teams so they can go back to copy and paste handheld games with shit graphics.

I'm actually not mad about this unless they're truly switch 2 exclusive and not on PC.
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>>719588340
What a comically American post.
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the game runs like shit on modern hardware but they wanted as many people to play it as possible?
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>>719585332
Not Wilds for Switch2 but Rise2
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>>719585517
It was, but now it's slightly down by 2 million globally. In Japan, it was actually outpacing the PS4 by almost 10% a year ago but now it's below the PS4 by about ~4% and actually getting gapped. It's even worse because the hard numbers don't show that software sales in Japan is vastly more dogshit compared to PS4's in the same timeframe. PS5 also only sold well for the first few years because Chinese people bought it in droves thanks to JPY being worthless. Ever since Sony raised the price of the PS5 in Japan (twice actually, but the second price bump had more of an effect), sales collapsed lmao, cause even chink scalpers didn't want to buy it from Japan anymore.
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>>719597146
playstation will never sell in japan again untill they make a handheld (and not price it retardedly)
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>>719584703
>HAHAHAHA NINTENIGGERS BTFO
>Rise outperforms WIlds
>Capcom comes crawling back to Switch 2

W-world Bros... What went wrong?
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>>719596458
Started selling the bundle for like 10 bucks. I bought it at the price. Game sucks, I feel like you have to hate yourself to like Monster Hunter, it doesn't even pretend not to be a waste of time.
>Congrats you finally met the big epic monster
>Fight!
>oh he's hurt now
>Haha now he's running
>Now you get to chase him across the map!
>Isn't this fun?
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>>719597290
Capcom mistaking the reason of World success, they thought it was focus in story and becoming easier when in truth it was outright normies FOMO.
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>>719589361
Switch couldn't run any new games without serious downgrades and most 3rd party games did poorly on it
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>>719597294
>>Isn't this fun?
yeah!
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where is that autist fag that responds every post with a screenshot of his ugly character in this threads
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>>719585064
All they have to do is either fix the game so people who bought it before could run the game, or refund them.
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>>719597256
There's actually a kinda reliable sony+amd shill called Kepler_L2 on neogaf that says a new PS""6"" (actually close to around PS5 specs) is coming out in 2027-2028. MLID, an unreliable leaker, estimates that it'll cost ~$350 and regular PS6 will be ~$500. Personally I think that price is absolute bullshit especially considering how poop the global economy is right now but who knows. I can see Sony subsidizing a Japanese-only PS""6""" handheld though.
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>>719597256
That won't even sell, it's digital-only and what games will it even have?
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>>719597507
busy in the other thread
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>>719597549
those prices are pure shill copium.
If Sony has the tech to do that in two years, they could make the ps5 pro under 500 dollars today.
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>>719597549
>I can see Sony subsidizing a Japanese-only ***ANYTHING***
What are you on and can I have some
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>jerk off about how Wilds will have an epic story
>it's the exact same plot as every MH game but just with additional walking
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>>719584703
what the fuck? i thought ps5 broke records. fucking explain this sony bros
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>>719597290
>28.5 million
WorldGODS still winning.
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>>719584703
I just got a 5090 FE from Best Goy the other day and going through to play some games that ran like shit on my 3090 Kingpin. Do you think now with the most powerful graphics card on the market that Monster Hunter Wilds is finally playable? I'm doubtful.
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>>719597735
Considering it's CPU-bound and you didn't buy a new CPU. no
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>>719597735
it ran splendidly on my 5080 so i'm sure you'll be fine
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>w-wilds can’t r-run on switch 2
no one wants that piece of shit anyway, just give us the next portable game, drop wilds and work on the next game and make it not shit this time
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>>719584703
It would have sold better if it was like world and had the old gameplay system with no open world bullshit and also released it for ps4 and ps5 with crossplay..
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>>719597290
Worlds outsold Rise by a metric ton wtf is this retarded tendie talking about
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>>719597549
>I can see Sony subsidizing a Japanese-only PS""6""" handheld though.
i doubt that is happening when their HQ is on trannyfornia
maybe if sony aniplex gives them the middle finger and makes a sony branded handheld with troonix and effectively taking advantage of proton given it's open source to ride off the steamdeck hype, but otherwise i doubt it
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>Check source
>AI Translated
It probably gets the point across but...
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>>719597828
remove the normalfag turdworlder bonus and it flopped
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>>719597624
Depends on the cost of the actual chips. Once manufacturers move onto newer processes older tech can increase in price from lack of supply. If they're moving onto using completely generic parts then they can possibly achieve a lower price point. There's very little point in paying for propriety processors these days since it'll probably become obsolete within a year given the pace of technology
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>>719597549
>unreliable leaker

You mean literal bullshit artist that lies for sport. If he's the first to say something then you can be damned sure it's false.
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>>719597928
>if you ignore reality I'm right
Ur trans
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>>719597828
They are talking about Wilds, you fucking retard.
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>>719597928
and remove the the bugman japs from rise and it flopped
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>>719597964
TSMC is dramatically increasing their prices across the board right now, so the ps6 chip will never be cheaper than the ps5 pro chip.
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>>719584981
why does this shit look better than wilds
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>>719597982
normalfags and turdworlders aren’t real mh fans
>>719598002
the games were good when they were made for the jap audience though
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>>719598048
Because it's allowed to retain feminity.
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>>719596208
Shut the fuck up
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>>719598097
>ummmmmm please stop using reality that heckin hurts my narrative
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>>719598048
little too chink/gook slop for me but still miles better than the abomination that is world/wilds
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>>719598002
turdies bought world at 10 bucks or less anon, meanwhile all rise sales were full price
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>>719598131
>BUT MUH HECKIN SALES
this isn’t the win you think it is normalnigger turdie
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>>719589547
nta but aren't the apple chips quite strong?
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Isn't Rise on RE engine? The problem maybe the design Wilds on a render cluster forgetting that consumer PC have mostly 1080 and 2070.
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>>719598221
It is the win I think it is because it is reality.
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>>719598263
They are
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If it was playable at all on a Steam Deck maybe I'd try it.
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>>719596171
more like you are a flaming homosexual and I do not condone your lifestyle
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>>719598125
>bitchboy bitched out
>again
Shocker.
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>>719598319
>I win because I consoomed the normal cattle slop
ok you won
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>>719598182
Rise is on all platforms. And has gone on sale consistently even for the switch version
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>>719598097
no you're just a weeaboo faggot, worlds take a massive dump on rise and only bugmen, coomers and tendies like that game
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Retard niggers should have done GU 2 with world graphics.
Sadly milds already sold gorillions thanks to the niggercattle masses
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>>719598437
>world graphics
fuck no
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>>719584703
Isn't this the game with the obnoxious pajeet kid in it?
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>>719598424
always was a niche weeaboo franchise outside of Japan until worldslop brought in the normalcattle and turdies aka (You)
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>>719585849
In all fairness, the PS5 totally failed to live up to the PS4's numbers.
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>>719597828
Oh no, it only sold over 27 million copies. How terrible.
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>>719598437
>world graphics
how to spot cancer
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>>719598559
they also never had to come out and do damage control on why it’s post launch fomo sales went to shit
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>>719598042
>5-10% increase
Eh. That'd apply to the PS5 too since TSMC produces oberon.
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>>719598437
>world graphics.
I don't need more ugly people, Wilds already delivered on that.
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>>719598640
every new node significantly increases the price right now.
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>>719589558
That's an art direction issue
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>>719597475
I fucking hate it but I'm glad you're having fun anon. Definitely like the monsters and overall world and aesthetic. Just can't stand the game itself.
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>>719598514
The PS5 just outright failed at everything, no point on getting one instead of a PS4, is astrobot PS5 exclusive?
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>>719584703
Nah, we don't want shit gaymes for abnormal sóynycuckaloids. Let it stay there..
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>>719598382
What's the matter tranny, upset reality doesn't agree with you?
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>>719598871
Yeah too bad sony forces the team to use the soulless skinwalker mascot instead of a new original IP or ape escape
or ape escape
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>>719598915
is reality in the room with us right now?
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>>719585292
Jesus christ this so much this.
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>>719598291
Rise was coded for the fucking switch, it had to be optimized or the game wouldn't fucking boot
not only was Wilds not coded for switch, the retards also decided to put a focus on graphics and big giant fucking maps. This is DESPITE dragons dogma 2 having a god awful fucking launch
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>>719599147
Yes.
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>>719593596
PS4 was the unplayable one
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>>719599290
This might sounds naive but wouldn't it be more logical to design the game for baseline PC (aka 1080), more customers, more money.
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>>719585292
This is the future you chose when you didn't buy GnG Resurrection and Kunitsu-Gami.
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>>719598701
PS6 doesn't need to be using the newest nodes to exceed the performance of the ps5.
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>>719599534
I did buy GnG resurrection
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>>719599530
Our world doesn't operate on logic, it operates on PR bullshit
Capcom decided they should put all their focus and attention on the graphics (that still look like shit anyway) in order to generate hype, and it actually worked. Incredible day 1 sales.
Unfortunately, it turns out the product they created is so fucked they have no clue how to fix it.
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>>719592792
You have to think like a business. They are looking at expected sales. Capcom hoped that Wilds would sell similarly to World did, so roughly 20 million. It got to 10 million and the sales cratered. For a company that messes up their financial report because they promised 20 million units sold to investors. It makes the people in charge look bad.
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>>719585292
They better make Megaman Legends 3 after this and make it a Switch and Steam exclusive since Sony and Microsoft want to keep playing grab ass on graphic faggotry.
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>>719586761
>>even dreaming of making a Switch 2 version when PS5 is already struggling
I think they're just working on "portable 6th" for it. I don't think they intend a port of wilds.
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>>719588575
My friend bought a ps5 pro for it and thought something had to have been wrong with the system. He returned when he found out it just ran like crap
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>>719585517
don't even look up software anon, PS5 is a freenium machine
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>>719585332
Look up Capcom DEI's slides
>Nintendo is social conservative = BAD
>SONY is social progressive = GOOD!
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>>719596145
>It will be funny once China does do games what they did to Hollywood movies.
What re you talking about?
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>>719597256
Problem is that sony burned lot of bridges with developers and publishers, specially smaller ones that gave ton of support back then.

Fact that something like FSN completely skips PS showcase how fucked whole scenario is.
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Feels good to play the most popular monster hunter on steam
good day for us monster hunter enjoyers
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>>719584703
Capcom is retarded and needs to die
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>me chinese
>me make joke
>me no upgrade pc for wilds
>TIME TO REVIEW BOMB!
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>>719584703
didn't most of their sales come from PC?
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>>719584703
My switch 2 can barely run Fortnite
It’s not going to run mhw
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>>719588408
>Operation system: Windows (vista)
huh??
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>>719601567
They are doing everything to avoid putting the blame on themselves and they can't blame PC because by its very nature "PC is different for everyone" so they blame Sony.
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>>719601651
maybe try upgrade your pc?
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>>719601746
>frame generation
>calling anyone else brown
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>>719601746
>Fake frames
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>>719601827
>>719601847
it's not my problem that i upgraded my pc after 2 betas and a benchmark because im not brown
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>Crapcom
Stopped reading there
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>>719601746
>he bought a 6 core
lmao what a cuck
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>>719588202
This hasn't been true since the PS4
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>>719601962
you literally are brown
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>>719601746
>frame generation
>esl post
brown
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>>719601746
>>719601962
You are brown and subhuman.
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>>719602028
>>719602094
>>719602119

Feels so good to not be brown and upgraded my pc for wilds
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>>719601746
You're like 5% of the steam users most people are still on 1080 and 2070 idk what makes them think everyone will upgrade just for them.
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>>719589226
Because Capcom's development pipeline is slow and dogshit. If any company wants to grow, they hire more people, but the question remains: how do they get these people up to speed on their AAA games? While older developers with experience will settle in quicker, they still need to get familiar with the company's culture and workflow, even more so for fresh college kiddos. What can they get these new hires to do to get experience? New projects like Pragmata, Kunitsu, and Exoprimal but those aren't guaranteed to sell (Kunitsu and Exoprimal are a prime examples of that; flops) and a public company like Capcom still needs LINE GO UP every single year. Even Pragmata looked like it had a slightly troubled development. Now their only choice is to get these new hires real experience is to put them on the MH and RE series. That's where remakes come in. RE had a ton of remakes so new hires working on those were good, but what remakes did MH have? Nothing. Now the MH team has to balance training new hires on top of tardwrangling a shitty engine not made for the series.
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>>719584703
>the response to the Switch 2 was better than expected
What? That was the least surprising development ever.
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>>719601604
Brownie why must you lie
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>>719584703
Link to the previous thread?
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>frame generation
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>Wilds actually sold super well
>however reception after launch is so bad that sales dropped off a cliff afterword
>now Capcom is in full panic mode because they actually might have damaged the brand heavily because they rushed to release this
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>>719602347
>but what remakes did MH have? Nothing
Technically...it had one.
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>HOW CAPCOM FUCKED UP REMOVING THE CLUTCHCLAW!
remember these are the people against wilds
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>>719585986
this, a lot of devs were not willing to support the switch 2 at all, so the sales boost makes them seethe
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>>719592436
How do these idiots keep getting put in charge of these projects?
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>>719584703
>the response to the Switch 2 was better than expected
Billion dollar companies are run by people stupider than the average /v/ user apparently.
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>>719585292
Game already looks like shit
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>>719584981
Speaking of MH Outlanders, what happened to it? No info in half years.
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>>719596458
I have a hard time believing it was strictly World, but if it was, then selling 7 million in a single quarter is impressive. Here's data from Capcom's website itself. Reading the disclaimer for World. I'm pretty sure it's just him regurgitating this data from June which states 21 million World base sales + 7 million from the World+Iceborne bundle.
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>>719603886
>7 million in a single quarter is impressive.
>Meanwhile Wilds sold 477k in a single quarter.
Oh, no wonder Capcom is so fucking mad and in panic right now.
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>>719592387
The only reason he's in that position and got promoted faster than anyone else is because he's the son of Capcom's CEO. I wish I were joking. Over the past few months, a lot of Japanese players have been calling for him and the current director to step down. Capcom responded by accusing some of them of "harassment" and even threatened legal action
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I suppose you guys are gonna spam this when HE starts his usual spam on famitsu day.
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>>719604347

remember when world babies praised ryozo because of iceborne???
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>>719602837
It’s a port, not a remake. Still, I totally see where you're coming from... the quality’s so high it almost feels like one.
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>>719585332
They admit avoiding the Switch 2 was dumb and focusing on the PS5 and their graphic focused ecosystem was a mistake.
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>>719584703
I blame wilds not having a number being the reason why it flopped.
Why cant Capcom count to fucking 5?
Literally all they have to do is what they did with 4U
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>>719584703
Lol wilds is going to get more then one expansion and it will be coming to switch 2 capcom is going to do everything to make sure live service wilds take off
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>>719603181
Anon, nintendo can sell 1 fuckllion console units and third parties still going find a whole excuse to not support.

At least bean counters get impatient with that shit ass behavior as shown by sony trials.
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>>719584703
The switch 2 will not save monster hunter if Crapcom makes it a data key card game.
Sales for key card games have been horrendous. You know something is wrong when Hogwarts legacy is the best selling key card game.
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If Capcom does bring Wilds to the switch, it means years of console wars shitposting will be for nothing. Loads of people in this forsaken site will completely lose it.
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>>719603862
Public demo at TGS, might launch in December according to rumor
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>>719584703
>>719584981
I would have thought World's sales numbers would make Capcom realize that giving priority to Playstation is bad for them. Then again, Sony has always been successful at forcing Capcom to give them whatever they want (as seen with Resident Evil 4's Gamecube exclusivity being overwritten after Ken Kutaragi accused Capcom of betraying them and threatening to withhold PS2 resources forever).
Pragmata will do better because of loli, but the PS5 version will once again be completely eclipsed by the PC sales numbers.

>>719585332
It means Capcom has once again missed the Nintendo party line by having nothing in the works for their platform. All they had was Street Fighter 6, but the player base for that game isn't on consoles to begin with. Even Sega wised up and had way more prepped for the Switch 2's launch.

>>719585517
It was, but only when Covid/Lockdowns/Shortages/Scalping/Crypto/$GME/Bidenbucks created the perfect storm for demand to rocket on high. All of that is gone now, so now nobody's buying it in the same frenzy anymore.
The greater issue is that none of this is translating to software sales. The attachment rate was last known to be less than 1.0 back in 2021, meaning there are PS5 consoles that were sold but no games being bought alongside them. Since then Sony has completely hidden the attachment rate metric from their fiscal reports since Q2 2022, instead replacing it with another metric measuring how many digital games are being sold compared to physical games.
This is exactly why Square Enix, quite possibly their most loyal and most important japanese third-party, publicly announced they would no longer have Playstation exclusives* going forward.
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>>719605139
good all those browns who dont want to upgrade their pc can buy wilds on the switch 2
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>>719585876
It would've sold better as a switch game I'm just saying
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>>719605404
>It means Capcom has once again missed the Nintendo party line by having nothing in the works for their platform. All they had was Street Fighter 6
They do jave something: MHS3, yeah, is coming to literally everything but it was revealed in a Nintendo Direct.
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>Wilds on Switch 2
Jesus fuck imagine the FPS and visuals
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>>719599534
i bought both :^(
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>>719605512
Fuck that, imagine /v/ if that happens. It would a glorious storm of hellfire with console wars shitposters just wanting to destroy the whole site and take down everyone with them.
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>>719586761
>even dreaming of making a Switch 2 version when PS5 is already struggling
It could work if it was a Rise 2, or you know they could stop using an engine made for MAXIMUM GRAPHICS but only if those graphics took place entirely inside of 1-2 buildings, at night, with enclosed spaces everywhere, and not that many characters running around at the same time.
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>>719605593
I dunno, might be funny
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>>719586943
>But since they are going all out on MTX, they don't want you to keep your purchases between consoles.
That's actually Sony's policy, Microcock is actually fine with console/pc cross-purchases and most Xbox games/DLC are default cross-purchases. The only exception is Fortnite, and everyone knows that's because Tim made a backdoor deal with Sony to give Unreal Engine 4 all sorts of Playstation-exclusive development features in return, as was revealed in the Fortnite v. Apple court case. Playstation is also where >50% of all Fortnite transactions happen
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>>719602445
Probably saw all the youtubers bitching about the price and thought that represented the average consumer
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>>719584703
>Was about to make a post saying how funny it would be thinking it would happen considering the performance on other platforms and if it does happen, imagine the absolute state for the FPS and Visuals in the game
>was also gonna say how funny that they didn't blame PC since they know they actually fucked up on the optimization and can only blame themself
>Then entire thread is just console war shitposting instead
never mind then
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>>719587023
>I take they were expecting Wilds to immediately outsell World?
No, they expected it to sell just as well. It never did. In fact, it's doing so poorly that fucking Mario Kart 8 is outselling it.
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>>719605920
Monster Hunter World, retard.
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>>719587335
>PS6
It's three models: the base PS6, a Series S type of cutdown that's worse than the PS5 Pro, and a fucking handheld version that's even more cut down and is supposed to be "as good as the base PS5" when docked.

>Next Xbox
It's going to be $1000 and will be an actual pre-built Windows PC with a Gaming Mode. And people thought the Switch 2 was too expensive.
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>>719585064
>>719585292
>Dragons Dogma 2 drops
>people get mad about the ingame shop
>instead of it being unfinished, running like absolute dogshit
>they fix the shop prices
>drop DD2 support right after
oh man im still so mad there was a chance if people weren't retards and focused their anger on the bigger problems that game had
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>>719587383
That's why so many devs and media outlets are putting all their hopes on GTA 6 which ironically won't do them no good GTA 6's success will just hurt third parties more than help
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>ACTUALLY THE STORY WAS GOOD AND PEOPLE LOVED THE 30 MINUTE WALKING SEGMENTS AND THE GAME SOLD AMAZING
>ACTUALLY WE CANT RE RELEASE THE OLD GAMES BECAUSE OF THE LOBBY SYSTEM
>ACTUALLY WE’RE WORKING ON THE WILDS OPTIMIZATION
>ACTUALLY IT’S ALREADY FIXED AND INTERNET TROLLS ARE SENDING US DEATH THREATS
>ACTUALLY THE GAME DID SELL LIKE SHIT BUT THATS BECAUSE OF THE PS5

By literally every metric capcom has lost the plot
Classic ports or just kill the series at this point, I really don’t care any more.
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>>719588202
>The highest console sales by far have been on PS5
The Nintendo Switch is right there.
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>>719606123
It's two models, there is no third SOC, and the handheld will not dock, having a low-powered mode for the PS5 kills the whole handheld will dock nonsense right out of the gate. KeplerL2 > MLID
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>>719601627
That just means Vista is the oldest OS the DRM is checking for.
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>>719601746
>1080p
Wow 2006, the future is here.
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>>719585292
Lol you say this but a lot of you guys didnt like rise/sunbreak gameplay wise that was mh peak other then frontier

>>719606160
capcom cant do no wrong right now
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>capcom cares more bout console than pc
KEK, console won PCfags BTFOd
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>>719600786
Nintendo is bad because its draconian and orwellian corporation, bootlicking faggot
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>>719606261
I legit don't get this shit.
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>>719584703
I tried the demo of Wilds on both PS5 and PC. Had to go lowest settings at 720p on PC to get 50-60 fps and it was ugly as fuck. PS5 version seemed to run slightly smoother to the naked eye, but it also looked like it ran at 720p.

Optimize the fucking performance in games you make and maybe more people will buy them.
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>>719597605
Still can not believe this remains relevant even for modern consolefags
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>bad performance to visual fidelity ratio
>way too much story bloat
>awful balance choices
the game ran okay for me for, but I have a pretty decent pc, but it didn't look anything special for running so poorly and the gameplay was just such a slog.
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>literally has two perfect live service Monster Hunter games ready to go
>just needs English translation and modern console port
>will never get released because It would reveal how shit modern Capcom devs are in comparison
Kek
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>>719590116
>SIE is so strapped for cash they had to sell EVO to literal pajeets.
Worse, they sold it to pajeets that are also owned by Sony through shell companies and Sony is STILL paying for EVO as a sponsor. I hope it was worth it just to remove Killer Instinct and Smash from the event.
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>>719606735
There are people who buy scalped $2000 GPUs only to get fucked over by poorly optimized shit.
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How the fuck is a four hundred dollar console the barrier to entry and not their dogshit PC optimization that needs a thousand dollar computer to run even remotely well?
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Bring Bloodbath Diablos to Wilds and all is forgiven.
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>>719607012
>didn't buy a $3000 scalped GPU to brute force unoptimized games at 30fps
Ngmi
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>>719588465
1500 dollar console is gonna be hot
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>>719607012
The game telling you to turn on hallucinated frames when you start it really tells you a lot about how incompetent these devs are.
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>>719587132
What do you mean doubling down on having vtubers and ecelebs suddenly gushing about the franchise and dropping it not even a month in during launch wasn't a good campaign? just like how everyone suddenly was a fan of dragon's dogma for DD2
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>>719589808
it’s also a custom cucked version for the switch which is even more hilarious
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>>719606884
IIRR, Frontier ended because the devs felt that they have done everything that could be possibly be done with the MH2's engine.
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>>719585378
11m is good though
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>Most of complaint are that game runs like dogshit on the main platfom for Wilds (pc)
>Capcom: Actually this is Sony's fault
??????
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>>719605506
>Game that has no actual release date yet
Like I said, they missed their chance to capitalize on the launch period.
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>>719599534
i did buy kunitsu-gami, thoughbeit
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>PS3 graphics
>Retarded interface
>Every low rank monster dies in 2 hits
>Every low rank monster deals 0 damage
>Unskippable walking segments
>Infinite restocking so it's impossible to die
>Power Clash is literally just a 3 sec cutscene that wastes your time and doesn't do anything
>No cat cooking
>Like 95% of set bonuses are useless
>Million tiers of tempered monsters so you are forced to fight the same monsters over and over again
>9 star tempered monsters oneshot you and have more HP than Fatalis so G rank will feel like a cake walk
>No Elder Dragons
>No HR final boss
>Collaboration is not even a monster but some generic colorless robot
>Underwater combat
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4
>No MH language
>First flop in franchise's history
Is this the worst game of all time?
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>>719588163
>Consoles are dying

Ain't even gonna read the rest of your retardation, PCmutt.
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>>719607319
PC is an afterthought devs are primarily concerned with getting things working on console. They're asserting game would sell more but PS5 is not widely adopted
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>>719605404
RE4 would have flopped if it wasn't ported to the ps2 you tendienigger
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>Rise on Switch
Looks, loads and runs fine enough considering the dogshit hardware
>Rise on PC
Runs like a dream even on a RTX3060 laptop, basically no load times and is sharp as fuck
>Wilds on PC
"pls turn on fake frames the game is feeling a bit under the weather right now :(" and then it barely fucking runs at all.

Dare I say... Kino?
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>mhwilds running on switch 2
Imagine the resolution/frame rate
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>>719607293
I know, just put that game on 1.0 then dripfeed the expansions. Even if they double the speed of drops thats still 5 years of content with no effort required.
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>wilds runs fine on switch
>browns still cant run wilds on pc because they didnt upgrade
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>>719584703
monster hunter as a franchise has always made insanely massive games. When I finish one I dont feel like playing another for at least 5 years. I was just finishing iceborne like 2-3 years ago and wilds looks like dogshit. Call me when you added water combat back and its actually good this time.
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>bump limit
May Wilds' flop make Capcom go full anime with MH, ultra realism was a fucking mistake.
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>>719607541
>They're asserting game would sell more but PS5 is not widely adopted
Then maybe shareholder should get ears on the ground and realize Piss 5 has no games. They should have supported switch 2
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>>719606082
Clearly you didn't read my post and instead got upset that I brought up outside information. Wilds is doing so poorly that its monthly sales numbers are lower than Mario Kart 8, a Switch 1 game from 2017 that was originally a Wii U game from 2017.
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>>719607553
Thanks for posting the sales numbers to back up your claim.
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>>719606674
They think GTA's success will make their games pick up lost sales yet will just make them more ignored than they are now.
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>>719607918
It sold 1.6 million on GCN
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feels good knowing that people who don't upgrade their pc(because they are brown) will be able to play monster hunter on the switch 2
what a day to be a monster hunter enjoyer!
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>>719584703
if they port garbage like Monhun Wilds to switch2 rather than make good new games the thing will stop selling
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>>719605440
All the browns who didn't want to upgrade their PC/upgrade to PC bought a PS5.



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