will the next batch of heroes be able to top this one?
What are they going to do with bebop? Double bomb was too fun so they yeeted it, gunbop falls off quick, beambop is meh, unironically feels like the worst character only good for being a hook bitch and watching other characters actually play the game.
>Paige in the lobby>whoever gets her loses 90% of the timethis fucking shitter magnet should not have been released
stop queuing drifter, he is my main, i put 70 votes down for him
Post (You)r Deadlock character ideas
>>719595932Victor gets brutally framemogged by Drifter
>>719594882Victor's nerf has made him absolutely useless. He can't perform his role with any decent certainty.>>719596154Some sort of anti-magic Constantine type would be very cool. Priest might fill that gruff and tired demonhunter niche.I had an idea for a hero that buffs or works with minions. Some potter who works with magical clay. Perhaps buffing a particular minion somewhat with their ult. And featuring other support adjacent skills for fire rate, light healing, maybe a slow. The appearance can range from anything to an old man with glasses and overalls, to someone younger.
>>719596154Hand grenade wielding demolitions expert
>>719594882ENTER
>>719595852It's so blatantly obvious she was designed for those gooners and e-girls who can't play for shit but plays OW/LoL and mains Mercy/Yuumi. All her spells are non-commital with fuckhuge AoEs minus her shield ability which is just the token "Let me support my BF/buttbuddy" spell.It sucks because games like these need characters for these types of people if it wants to survive long.
>>719596154I want a Cho'gath in this game and the only way I think it could work is a two-parter robot where someone controls the legs and gun arm while the other controls the torso that uses all the abilities and acts more like a turret and can turn around independently of the legs.
>>719595852>other team>GOAT Billy>Cannot fucking die Victor>50k souls at the 15 minute mark Mina>our Paige is going 0/20/3MAKE IT STOP PLEASEFUCK
>>719597360>a two-parter robot where someone controls the legs and gun arm while the other controls the torso that uses all the abilities and acts more like a turret and can turn around independently of the legs.That's literally Cho'Gall from HotS, which is a fun as fuck hero, but it could be too problematic for a fast paced TPS like Deadlock, not to mention in this game unlike HotS you have to have individual net worth
>>719598259That is who I meant, I typed out that League character instead.
>>719594882Has anyone written a retard-friendly "what items to consider buying for specific opponents and when" guide? I've been flowcharting my builds and I know that's my biggest problem with improving, but there are so many characters and items in this game that I can't keep it in my head and I spend like 5 minutes trying to remember that you need to buy Slowing Hex against Grey Talon etc.
>>719596597>Victor's nerf has made him absolutely useless. He can't perform his role with any decent certainty.Didn't play him pre-nerf but I did get 3 matches on him in today, and he seemed broken as hell. Maybe you're fighting too much after the laning stage? When you have your core items (easy to get with Victor's farming abilities) you become a raid boss. I've had people complain about Victor being retarded in every game I've played so far.
https://files.catbox.moe/ckkkk5.pngI need to draw more brat Mina.
>>719596154Maybe have him be Warden's Canadian cousin
>>719596154spring-heeled jack, he's already referenced in one of the items
>>719598529What rank are you? And what build have you been using? I've been trying to lean into spirit and leeching health. His itemization requires too much money to come online, at least with this route. His abilities make farming not difficult, but his slow speed makes 1v1s difficult, and changing lanes for teamfights sluggish. Maybe slowing hex would be useful for bridging the gap? Maybe leaning into the low health gun boosting items? Dunno, I am playing in shit enough rating that no one picks antiheal items to counter me and I am still struggling to contribute. I can readily live and take the abuse of 3-4 people under the right circumstances, but I never see this capitalized by teammates. I try to play around them and make sure I am being useful in that role. Maybe I am retarded?
>>719594882i don't remember the last time i played a game that was this well designed and fun at its core but the skill ceiling of it is way too high for me and i fucking hate the dota/tf2/cs/valve userbase so fucking much
>>719596154Office Lady with a magic typewriter whose primary fire is her shooting out magic projectiles by typing. Her firerate is occasionally broken by her pushing the carriage on the typewriter back. Her reload is her pulling the paper out, screwing it up in a ball, throwing it on the ground and putting another page in.When she ults every enemy hero currently in her view gets an incantation in the form of a magic word above her head. They have to get out of her view before the player themselves type each of their words out killing each of them typing of the dead style.
>>719595852It's ridiculous too because she's such a fucking strong hero, has literally everything in her kit except mobility>>719596597>Victor's nerf has made him absolutely useless. He can't perform his role with any decent certainty.Just buy mobility and press the fucking buttons you goon. It's not like you don't have two heals, a spammable cleanse, absurd spirit damage you can leech off of and a fucking SK resurect
>>719599357>What rank are you?I don't know where I am after rank decay (didn't play for a pretty long time), but I reached the second highest tier back when I played very actively. I might be pretty low now to be fair, it does feel like smurfing sometimes.>And what build have you been using? I've been trying to lean into spirit and leeching health. Pretty much that. I build second tier speed boots, healing booster, some spirit, the freezing wave active item (cold something), warp stone, spirit resist and then infuser. Before I have those items I only fight very opportunistically (join team for fights that look good already), but when I have infuser I just blink on people, use the aura and cold active, and 1 whenever it's up. Then just keep shooting them in the head. Pop infuser when you're in the middle of a few people and you won't die. Healbane or something if they also have lifesteal guys.Escalating exposure, leech, juggernaut, siphon bullets and some other junk when you have the money is good, but the game usually ends by then I reckon.
Is there any way to report players in this shit?Just played a match where a victor called everyone retarded then proceeded to die to his own attack and instead of quitting he remained in the match throwing himself at the enemy so they could farm him.Abhorrent behavior all around.
>>719596154A "Wizard of Oz" kind of guy who claims to be a really strong magic user, but the truth is that he's a loser who's the only hero on the roster who can't actually use magic/use soul powers for one reason or another, so he copes by using technology(that he probably stole from McGuinnis/Fairfax) that makes it look like he knows how to use magic thanks to some kind of visual illusion device.He and his teammates would see his abilities as normal boring tech objects like a flamethrower or something, but the enemy team would see his abilities as actual magical powers.
>>719600272Press esc, click on player name and report
>>719600367>>719600272you can also report the player on the match result screen. there is a button at the bottom of their stats written report. You can also access this after the match in the hub by pressing ESC and clicking your profile pick.
Say thank you to her for fucking saving Deadlock after the initial leaks.
>>719601786no i hate her and the game would be better without ivy players
>>719601840But I'm an Ivy player...
>>719601786Thank you, Ivy!
>>719601786Ivy walked so Mina could fly.
>>719600272Valve really needs a surrender vote or atleast auto end if the entire enemy team leaves.This “this game will still be counted as a loss” is some bullshit when there’s 2 people left>Shiv player cries entire match>calls anyone that calls him out on his faggotry a pedo (admitted to being 13, what the fuck do these kids got no internet safety courses)>quits after feeding Abrams 10 times in a rowholy shit get these children out of here
>>719602291Just because you get shitter retards on your team doesn't mean every game should be ruined with a surrender voteTake the L and go next
>play with a doorman>he suicides and feeds 5 kills in lane>"wraith ur so hard to lane with">...>as game is ending seven says "wraith go back to ow ur terrible">have higher kd and damage than himyup its a moba
>>719602291>at least auto end if the entire enemy team leaves.whenever a player leaves for too long it literally shows on the top right that the match is safe to leave and it will not count.
A viscous that is ahead in souls is a sight to behold, fucker never dies.
>>719602850Gun Viscous is the gift that keeps on giving
>every single vyper player on my team is a new player that doesn't know how to play that is it. I am learning vyper so I can place her in high priority and never have to deal with this again
>>719602850Just play Doorchad and send the ball to the shadow realm
>>719603091>jumps and cubes into the pit>majestic leaps out of cube
>>719603091Viscous is a actual counter to Doorman, his cube is stronger than the pocket dimension
Just got a game with Bebop with a Drifter lane partner and heard their pre-game chat...Man, Bebop is too naive for his own good.
I love doorman so fucking much but he's top high iq for me, the best I can do is maybe trolly enemies into our own towers but besides that it's hard to know what to do unless you have the mind of a snake
>>719602850>Viscous in my team>cucks the enemy team with a perfect Cube every fight>he lets me dash in as Mo & Krill and grab the dumb pinhead YamatoI love the green nigga, he's just a saint cover in goo.
Every new male hero is based and metathe two women heroes are cringe and you lose more than you win
>>719603971the two women heroes need to sit on my face
>>719603646Doorman is a fun utility character I love but it takes some time to snowball with him unless your lanebuddy is pretty good.god it gets so hard to farm as him if your team is getting stomped, usually end up having to give up slots for things like stuns.also fuck some of these door placement requirements, trying to panic/quick portal feels like such a gamble.getting enemies stuck behind the invisible wall in fountain is a real shitter thing I've accidentally done, the Victor was especially mad since he died 3 times unable to move
>>719603646The most difficult part of playing doorman is getting your teammates to use your doors.
>>719604169The two women heroes need to have actual upskirt textures.
>>719604538the best I can do is yell DOOR IS AN ESCAPE in mic for when we're risky pushing a walker
>>719604638Make it so that pointing at your portal and clicking with the mousewheel lets you pick words like "ESCAPE", "FLANK", "PEAK", "TRAP" which cause the portal to be marked with the word that just your team can see so they know the intention of your portal.
>>719596154Tf2 demoman gets transported to Deadlock's world, fights by crafting explosives using ingredients in the same way Invoker does his spells.
>>719604638Honestly, I probably just need to get better about communicating. I know it's hard to know what the door even leads to if you're on doorman's team and he doesn't say anything. But usually even if I specifically call out that I'm making a door behind their team, or giving vindicta a sniping door or something, I'm the only one who ends up using it anyway. Unless it's something very obvious like we're all in midboss and I place a door to get us out and say as much.
which deadlock hero would you most want to be friends with :)
>>719600158I'm not so sure, I spent a few games playing against him now and he's pretty easy to shut down with decay, bursts. He's very expensive to get going for sure. Very few middling tier items go well with him. I've had some success with whatever this games blade mail item is, usually catches people off guard. I think less self-damage or a small portion of inate spirit res would do him well.
>>719605146Viscous.
>>719605146Viscous, I wanna go in The Cube.
>>719604638>go into door labelled "ESCAPE">walk into a drifter, wraith, and mo & krill
how do i viscous?
>>719596154Don Quixote but 1920s was a fun idea someone tossed a thread or two back
>>719604638I usually open the portal directly in front of their faces to try and force their frontal lobe to reconnect, won a couple matches by doing that and its upsetting
>>719605420Gunmaxx
I've played Mina once and that was enough for me. I have never been bored with a cringe weeaboo hero.
BIlly is super fun
>>719596154time traveling astronaut from the future who doesn't de-suit in fear of breathing in the toxic 1920's environmentall of his voicelines are spoken over walkie talkie
>>719596154POLTERLOLIIF DOORMAN HAS A PORTAL GUNSHE HAS A GRAVITY GUN
>>719605970fuck off globetard the earth is flat
Just played my first match as Victor and would play him like I did with aura Pudge.Good results, with the right items he is very fucking tanky.
>>719605997yoshi hire this pedo
>>719605162I think he's definitely one of the heroes that actually requires farm the most, along with maybe Vyper, in order to have an impact. But he can get it quite quickly. One thing that's underrated is how much damage he's actually able to put out when he gets the items. If you can hit your shots while keeping people in your aura, and have itemised correctly, people will melt shockingly fast. His 1 hits hard too.I don't know, I guess my sample size is still small, but I've enacting a real power fantasy so far.
>>719596154A few anons in yesterday's thread briefly talked about potential for a werewolf hero (female) and I tried my hand at drawing a design (pic).Her gimmick would of course be that she can transform into a werewolf for a small period of time. Her human form is weak but fast, whereas her werewolf form is strong but slow (like a reverse Callico).Her gun is rocks. Literally, her backpack is full of large stones which she hurls at enemies. Maybe she has a healing/buff spell too, where she grabs a hunk of meat from her pack and schnoffs down that shit.Also had an idea where she has to place her backpack down before she can take rocks from it, but maybe two gimmicks in one would suck? idk if this would play like shit or not, just spitballing.
>>719596154A silly commie monster with time powers
>It's another "Mina pops ult and instantly kills a Walker/Midboss" episode
>>719605970https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9zr4sL9SkA
>>719606614a dapper & fancy individual with time abilities that comes from not america is already in the game though
>>719606506shit design driven primarily by lust first over "good character idea" firstI applaud the attempt but it was shit to begin with
>>719594882>getting jumped as Doorman>try to place portal>90% of wall is red>diefucking why
>>719607109Theyre fixing that up
>>719596154An alien radio broadcaster has been floating around in my mind for a while now but I'm kinda donut steely about it
>>719596154classic fast-talking 1920s radio personality who has all the essentials of a radio station ramshackled together as a backpack. one hand is always holding his microphone.his shtick would be that he is broadcasting the ritual live. his voice lines would always be spoken in a manner as if he was narrating to an audience, rather than speaking directly to any individual present.probably would have a supporty or magey kit, using some occult aspects to his radio backpack to utilize sound-based abilities. his gun could really be anything that fits into one hand, or even be some sort of sound-projecting device.
So is a requirement of the Baxter society to remove one of your arms and make it robotic?
>>719596154Baseball themed character named Deadball>cursed after he rigged a game to play forever, looking to have the curse lifted so he can die in peaceOzymandias>Egyptian pharoah whose mummy was on display at the MET until the new eclipse, risen again and seeking the Patrons to grant him life after the ritual so he can turn New York into his new empireOlmstead>A New Englander who caught a glimpse of the Adversary while out at sea and is now going insane and turning into a squid man, looking to have the patrons wipe the memory from his mind
>>719596154Door to Door salesman of interesting mythical artifacts that he uh... acquired.
'vy on the /v/
>>719608459>Giving the Gargoyle tits
>>719608552this better?
>>719608595Bueno.
>>719606379I admit it could be me being retarded and a clutz. I do miss his 1s at times and in a battle with multiple people, sometimes that can mean death. However, he's also incredibly suseptible to stuns. The 3 + lifesteal (if infuser isn't up) isn't enough to keep you alive if you get donked on the head. The answer I guess would be unstoppable or something. But that is yet another tier 3. I am not very impressed by the self-cleanse for debuffs, toxic bullets is easy to reapply, same with healbane. Decay getting washed off is easy though. He's fun to play I just need to experiment and maybe be more intelligent about who and where I am fighting.>>719608180>DeadballMight be cute to have him look like one of the baseball furies from The Warriors.
>>719594882I'm a pretty decent laner due to my dota hours but I just can't grasp the midgame in deadlock. there's so much shit happening all the time and the towers die so much faster than in dotahow am I supposed to kill the neutral camps with my towers getting sieged 24/7 and 10 sons of bitches dying at the urn brawl
>>719609195having a kill/hp lead during the first 10 minutes is the real make or break for matches, after that you want to farm camps or slap around slot machines or help gank, as past 10 mins is when the souls earned from lanemobs is divided between whoevers there, if you stay purely pushing/defending with your lanebuddy you're making about 50% less souls, one of (you) have to leave.losing some towers is fine as long as you keep a even pace (or outpace) with the other team.its really all about the items/soul count you got. you need to be greedy.
what doe ivy even do as a support besides the stun? that one ability she has to connect to another player doesn't seem to heal anything
I love playing Vyper and I love sucking (ally) Billy cock
>>719605489>G*tcha slopSkip.
drifter is so fun when ppl just feed you like crazy in lane and then go to solo jungle alone again and again !!!
>>719610595embarrassing post
>>719610671I know who you are. Go play actual games instead of that garbage.
>>719610106Faggot post aside Vyper being the only one to make Lash feel uncomfortable is pretty funny
>>719609195ive just started sidelaning and splitting like all the time, i used to go to all the fights but we just lost, now i cause chaos across the map and try and find windows of opportunities during that
>>719610792you clearly don't know a whole lot if you don't know who don quixote is
>>719610792Please, please, PLEASE take your meds.
>>719610989also i will collapse on a fight in say mid if the enemy is over extendeddraw someone to side to stop my pushcollapse on enemy team pushing mid if things look goodbasically, i also farm enemy camps when their lanes are pushed (i play drifter + victor currently)
>>719610994>>719611009>I-I'm not a limbus slurper bro!>THERE WERE TOTALLY VAMPIRES IN DON QUIXOTE!You aren't fooling anybody.
>>719611115
>>719610853https://youtu.be/2WkXB8OBnIIshe ahs the best lines. I love the sass
>>719611295I don't like Paige but the pole palace dialogue is great.
>>719611561the rolling papers dialog is great
>>719598658Peak
>>719611115What the fuck are you talking about?
>>719611295Completely understood the assignment of "you're a trashy midwestern crime degenerate that still somehow has lots of charm"
>>719596154Stereotypical fast talking journalist with a PRESS fedora, keeps asking the wrong questions that’ll probably get him murdered after the ritual.>Rolled up newpaper heavy melee>tracker ability that shows enemy on teams map for awhile>long cooldown camera that rewards souls depending on shot (can save actual pictures to harddrive if enabled to) so enemies/allies ulting or large team fights reward a lot, close up of enemies a decent amount>short range short duration flash stun>”Extra! Extra!” Turns a enemy black&white, their death rewards double (not sure about this one)
>>719611295Vyper being a massive loser yet so likeable is a impressive feat
when this game has 1 other casual game mode, custom games, hero levels (mastery system from league basically), skins, customizable hideouts, unlockable visual novels, improved jungle, and 20 more heroes, it will be so kino, truly the best pvp game ever made
>>719594882I've been wanting to play this game for a hot minute, when TF is gabe gonna bless us with an open beta?
>>719612441my guy the game is basically in open beta, just go to the discussion page and request access from one of the many open topics there.
>>719612441probably full open beta within 6 months, they said their goal was to launch with 50 heroes, we've got 32 rn
>>719596154Dude from some kind religious or cultlike organisation (maybe the Friends of Humanity?) who uses a flamethrower laced with incense that incidentally gets him high>personality wise he's a mix of a zealot and a chilled out dudebro >gameplay wise he can create barriers with his flamethrower to support teammate's AOEs and positioning, maybe with some healing abilities too that might require him to stand still for a it so it creates a fun dynamic where he has to first control where the enemy can and cannot be and utilize that to create enough space for him to safely heal teammates >despite basically just being there to help people, everyone hates him because the serious characters view him as a disgrace, he's racist against the monster characters (but is too high to recognize them as anything but human so his dialogue to them is still super chill) and Vindicta exists to murder people like himhe'd have religious robes but also a chill weedtwink face, sorta like picrel but less shitty and gay
>>719611295Calico and Vyper convo is 10/10
>>719596154Basically this guy.A movie director.
Started playing this recently. Not confident enough to try PvP yet, but I've been having fun with bot matches and feel like I'm slowly starting to get the hang of thingsSo far I've mostly been playing Infernus, Mo & Krill, and Doorman. Any recommendations for other characters I should try?
Isnt this doa?
>>719611295That line at the end with Mirage about DeKalb is so good. Americana is really underutilized in games.
>>719612818>Dedicated Otaku AnimeNo..? It’s based on 1920s America, New York stereotypes mainly
>>719598658epic catbox link also
>>719612778give lash a try, hes very unique, you might also like billy and seven
>>7196124416-12 months I’d say to open beta
Where do I find the lore of the characters in the new menu? Loved reading through shit like Seven's lore.
Post dem deadlock edits, I have the need to make a folder of them.
>>719596154Skaven looking street urchin rat girl that has undergone magical/medical testing and escaped from the facility. She uses throwing knives and has a somewhat gloomy sardonic personality. She could stack debilitating debuffs on herself via gun proc buildup (and possibly overtime) that she can then dump onto a single target ability or a giant AOE Ult that transfers them onto opponents. You could even go further and allow her to gain buffs as well and you can apply them to allies. It could be a fun balance to try and buff/debuff appropriately or you could swing her towards being more of a support/healer or damage/debilitator.
they need to a a character that looks like this, and then maybe I'll play it
>>719613810but Valve wants to make good character designs
>>719613810Vindicta basically has that lower half
>>719613810valve's artists like giving emphasis to the silhouette of their characters and a venus type silhouette would be unique enough among the current cast but valve is unfortunately not that horny to pull off something like that
Something about Doorman being a lesser god that got bored of torturing humanity and instead wants to treat them is so funny to me.
>>719613191
>>719598529lol Viktor can dive enemy walkers and not lose any health
Is this more or less accurate? Tell me which models I got wrong. I understand even the "Pretty Much Finished" characters are still subject to change, but they look good enough for me at this stage of development.
If I have a time wall down as Paradox and swap with an enemy and they go through the wall during that animation, does it count as them touching it, triggering the silence? It's kinda finnicky since the swap is more of a swing motion, but I thought I did it to a few people and they were able to instantly use abilties.
>>719614892Move Mirage, Paradox, Pocket, Seven, Vindicta, and Wraith down
Geist is crazy oppressive in lane
>>719614892>>719615070Infernus too
Where do you find patch notes? In ye olden times, it was the forum, but I checked it don't see anything from the past two weeks.
>have 50k soul lead>enemy team is losing, decisively, but slowly>have to play out another 10 minutes of winning before we actually win, despite it being clear and obviousI literally said out loud,”this can’t be fun for anyone”
>>719598939drifter was probably meant to be spring heeled jack. has the big claws and glowing fire-like eyes.
>>719615268i've seen comebacks from those "we've obviously already lost" games happen, the attacking team gets lazy, jumps pit all at once, gets mauled and suddenly it's a game again
>>719614892God I fucking hope they keep Sinclair a nondescript mannequin instead of making him the only black magician in the history of magic.
>>719615339That’s true, it happens, but it’s pretty unlikely
>>719615339If I am Victor, Dynamo, Bebop or Seven, I live for those matches.
I feel like if your team has Victor and/or Drifter, its almost a guaranteed win at this point. Alternatively, only ever seen 1 Mina win
>>719615550I keep seeing Minas 30k ahead of everyone soulwise and I have no idea how
>>719615550Using Knockdown on a drifter who refuses to buy debuff clears is hilarious
>>719615631>Can't fight anybody, so can't initiate fight>First one to run away if it feels like the team is losing>Can't do anything else really while waiting for the next opportunity to fight, so it's always time to farm
>>719614892Holliday is holding a cardboard cutout of a gun
>>719596154Legendary warrior-king from a sunken antedeluvian civilisation participating in the ritual so that he can raise his kingdom from beneath the sea. Basically Conan meets Namor with a bunch of pulp fantasy/theosophy references thrown in.
Will you play this game now /v/? Well?
Mina's ult silencing is perhaps the most obnoxious thing I can think of.
Another Victor game.Man, you really do just get leech, torment pulse, some regen items and just sit in the middle of a whole team. I had a 4 man team wailing on me in mid with a Mo&Krill ult and I still live and get 3 kills from it.
>>719598658Do you have more? A gallery/twitter link?
>>719596154Politician running for NYC mayor.>GunHenry Deringer>1Flyering bundleToss a bundle of campaign flyers in the air, after a delay, the area below them will be littered with flyers causing damage and lowers the enemy firerate and creates a brief silence.>2 Campaign VehicleSends a ghost car with speakers in a direction that slows enemies and speeds up allies if standing nearby>3Bull MooseActivating this ability amplifies damage the enemy PERCIEVES you are taking, after a duration, or the enemy perception of your health reaches 0, the ability ends and your health is regened based on your health taken during the duration.>UltPodium SpeechGives entire surrounding team slight firerate increase and regen boost for a duration but firing any abilities will interrupt.
>>719602945Give good /v/iscous build, I suck at him
>8 hours threadWhat killed the hype?
>>719616256amazing
>>719619428always take cold front unless ur gun (and maybe even if ur gun...)
>>719614917Yes
>>719619515Patch fever is overWake me up when Priest comes out
>>719611295>Billy, Lash and Mirage dialogWhat a fucking SLUT
>>719596154Do a crossover and put everybody's favorite character in it.
>>719596154Warau Salesman
I want to play Mina and Paige but I'm only good at Mo&Krill and Victor, they better release a character like Hinako from KoF so I can play as a retarded tank that is also cute.At least Victor is cool
How long until the new characters don't have the "queue as 3 other unfinished character" requirements?
>>719594882>Griefer Dull as shit, they removed the all fours running and the whistle the enemies would hear during some effect that is apparently also removed>Mina Just a fucking trash character, likely the worst character in the fucking game lmao>Paige Super fucking boring made for egirlsSo yeah, very likely they can top this one, specially given that we can approximately guess who is in the next batch and they were all very cool
>>719596154vintage boy scout. he can fire a red ryder or a slingshot. haven't thought about story or abilities yet- maybe something to do with ghost stories or summoning innawoods cryptids as allies
>>719614892a lot are wrong, a lot in finished are not finished, para for example has had the same model since very early deadlock, they will definitley give her a new model
we are definitley getting a newspaper guy hero btw, the baroness got a hero, and the daily oracle is right across the street
>>719596154Dude with a long, adorned coat on his shoulders similarly to Swain that walks with his hands behind his back and throws magic fists by punching when shooting1 gives AS and piercing2 is a forward big fist that drags enemies and can make them crash against walls for extra damage3 is an uppercut if you are on the ground and a slam if you are in the air (charges here for the combo)ult grabs the enemy by the neck and drags it along the ground in a straight line for a distance and throws him away, extra damage on wall collision
>>719620524You can hear the whistle when he ults
>>719614892I don't think Dynamo, Paradox, Wraith and Pocket are finished, and I know Seven might get a changeVindicta will probably get a model rework to make her look like in the portraitHoliday is very unfinished, Kelvin seems like they just dont really know what to do with him
>>719620863I have never heard it
Do you think vindicta wears any underwear?
>>719614892Vindicta arms are not connected to her body and her hair has very basic texture. She’s not finished
>>719621004You have to be the enemy
>>719595852>Drifter in the match>either goes 1/14 or 20/1
>>719621050No, but her ghostly white jungle makes the point moot anyway even when she's flying over people
What part of in development do you guys not understand?
>>719612973Can you explain it? I don't get it.
>>719618412>loli geistHOLY FUCK
>>719618412Powerful image.
>>719621382Do NOT remodel Bingus
First time playing as Victor (tried playing his yesterday, but I kept getting other heroes). Very strong hero, especially since he is aligned with my playstyle of just standing there and taking damage like a moron.
>>719621539What build did you use? I've got one that reliably gets me 35~ish k player damage.
>>719621648This build. I'll be refining it now. Not sure how much good Healing Nova did for me.
>>719603971thigh highs scientifically designed to make me hard
>>719621743I'd say get some spirit resist items in there I'd say. I've had so much fun with Spirit Resilience giving me 30% spirit resist when below 30% health (Which adds up quickly).Also Leech is going to be your friend for late game fights.
>>719621812>Also Leech is going to be your friend for late game fights.How does it fair against Infuser? Both upgrade from Spirit Lifesteal. It sounds pretty good as long as you remember to use it.
>>719621880I'll have to do more testing with it and get back to you on that.
Wow, Victor actually takes off his arm for his heavy melee.
>>719621812>I'd say get some spirit resist items in there I'd say. I've had so much fun with Spirit ResilienceWouldn't it be better to choose between Bullet Resilience and Spirit Resilience depending on who you are fighting?
>>719620969Just make Kelvin a bit creepier looking, dude is supposed to be some sort of ice-wight reanimated by the totem on his back, he should look a little more ghoulish.Something like MacReady from The Thing in that scene where he's threatening everyone with the dynamite, but even frostier, more tired looking.
>>719622078Yeah, good point. I've just been finding most of my incoming damage has just been my own 3 doing spirit damage to me so I've found it works for my lazy ass playstyle.
>>719621880Infuser is better for tanking a bunch of long cooldown abilites and healing up after faster, Leech is probably better if you're mixing in some gun items and the fights tend to be more drawn out.
>>719622116Yeah, that would be better, could give him some lines about how people look weird at him since apparently he doesn't know he is a zombieI do think his model is completely unfinished tho
>>719622220Agreed, they clearly took his old spacesuit design from Neon Prime and reskinned an arctic explorer over the basic silhouette.Some lines like that would be cool, maybe redo his voiceover in general so it's a bit less peppy, dude sounds pretty energetic given what he's supposed to be in lore.
>>719622220>since apparently he doesn't know he is a zombieHe does.https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/conversations/33da402290e1b729ba73a1dd83a30a64/
>>719622315>>719622342Kelvin's recent voicelines has him a bit more down and everyone points out how judgemental he is (Love the one from Paradox that points out that the different between a thief and an explorer is that explorers steal from the dead).
>>719622342Interesting, haven't heard those in-game yet.
Anyone feel like mirage underpeforms a bit?I love the character but I never feel like I deal a lot of damage like other left click characters
>>719621743>>719621812I'll try this now instead.>>719622598Yes. I see him rarely, and I'm not interested in playing as him myself.
>>719596154The Boss, but reskinned as an Italian mobster instead of a yakuza. Maybe change his 3 from a generic shield to something more interesting, but I liked the idea of the 2-1-3 "call goon squad, pin them down and orbital nuke them" combo.
>>719622598Every single aim cheater was playing mirage so Volvo nerfed him into trash
this game manages be way more toxic than league ever was, granted it's my first valve game ever but are all valve games like this? it feels like the dregs of society came crawling out and are infesting this game calling everyone cucks trannies faggots and all other slurs imaginable
>>719623038It's just what happens when there are more lax communication rules.
>>719623038Volvo (almost) doesn't moderate chat in their games, you can find people regularly dropping the nigger word in Dotard. TF2 too but that's mainly regulated by server owners and each admin is different.
>>719623038This is every Valve game
>>719622598He's my most played hero by far, except recently. He is painfully mediocre since his base bullet damage was nerfed by 10%, which doesnt sound enormous in theory. However, in practice, you basically have to buy only of gun items and aim perfectly to keep up with turbo gun heroes. You can do a spirit build, I guess, but, realistically, your team is gonna have a bunch of spirit heroes on it, anyway. As a result, the enemy team will probably want to buy spirit armor more than bullet armor. I've messed around with an all gun items Mirage build sincd the nerf. Its not bad, but its not as good as doing the same thing as Ivy or Haze or Drifter. His laning was still good until the new heroes patch, but now that scarabs do typeless damage rather than spirit damage (i.e. they dont proc Mystic Regen), his laning is truly awful.
>>719623084>>719623241>>719623331i'm not saying that they should go full draconian like riot has but i think there's a better approach than the hands-off approach despite however much mobas will attract faggotry
>>719594882I want to like her but everything outside of her design is shit.>shitty pistol instead of like an ak47>have to build spirit because she doesn't scale well with gun damage>gun items in general suck right now>her 1 is so close range that if you are that close to an enemy you die cuz u squishy>rest of the kit is cool>ult would be better if it lasted longer and did more damageEverytime I queue her I am just thinking to myself this is walmart pocket. Pocket does everything she does but way better.
the deadlock general was the worst piece of shit general i've ever seen on /vg/, literally nothing helpful, no guides or tips or questions answered and instead it's nonstop shitflinging, shitposting and people screeching about trannies and how much more popular the game is now
>>719622598He was turbonerfedOn release he was very fun with the spirit mark oneshot build but had a retarded broken gun, and instead of nerfing just the gun they nerfed everything and made him fucking dogshit
>>719623038Let me preface this by saying you are a fucking faggotNow with that out of the way, League is turbopoliced to the point you get chatbanned while in a game now, and Valve games are notFaggotI really miss being able to tell people to fucking kill themselves in LeagueFAGGOT
>>719596154A character that uses a grenade launcher where you have to angle your shots to get the most out of your gun. He will also have a motorcycle he can ride around at the cost of his health. His second ability will be a stim that turns his grenades into homing missiles akin to what Gordon Freeman used in HL1 to kill the fighter jet. His 3rd ability will be drone you can pilot around the map that has a machine gun and his ult will be a nuke that does massive aoe spirit damage.
>>719624180third worlder brown behavior
Just started playing a couple of weeks ago. I'm always lagging behind souls, while in every game there's always that one guy who's 5-10k souls ahead of everyone by the time the game ends.How do I become that guy? Is laning and farming enemy/neutral creeps not enough?
>>719624325Faggot
>>719624491You can download all your previous games and spectate them
>>719624301He would have lines akin to a Malkavian from VTMB and would also use a crowbar as a melee. I am trying to give him that crazy mechanic greasy monkey vibe. His lore would be that he was a disgraced high ranking fairfax engineer who was let go because he cared more about developing the technology at Fairfax industries moreso than the wellbeing of society. After losing everything, his family, his career, his house, his food he turned to trying to summon the amberhand/saphhire flame to get revenge and redemption against the Fairfax industries. Miku would know him but stay away because she was hired to replace him and knows it was he who hired calico to kill pocket because he wanted calico to test out her new punch gun thing she has.
>>719624006You're supposed to engage with others. Poke in and retreat. Her ult would be busted if it did silence and damage at the same time.
>>719624006Her ult has highest single target damage in game wtf you’re talking about
>>719624641Yeah at that point I would rather play haze than have to kite someone or Billy. >>719624689Haze ult.
>>719623803They will probably implement low-priority queue (for people with low behaviour scores) when the game is actually out.
>>719624301>a character that uses a grenade launcherNo, the token character for retarded mongoloids no, thank youKill yourself
>>719624015Fact atomic explosion
>>719624689No fucking way lmao
>>719596154Give me a gatorman who has a skill with a passive buff on it when he's belowground that makes him really fast at tunnel rotations and fighting midboss, then let him activate the skill to get the buff while aboveground for x seconds so it isn't a wasted ability while pushing objectives.
>>719621382I know it's still in development but I can't get over how Yamato is ever looking like that in the first place. They have a former Capcom artist in the studio and he made this; why not use him?
>>719624895Name what deals more damage
>>719625014I cannot wait for the redesign.
>>719624846nigger faggot kill yourself.
>>719624715Haze ult has major problem of enemy just walking away from your ult or buying metal skin instantly invalidating you
Flopping tranny deadcock.
Is this the worst lane opposition?
>>719605420Okay so the guides with the MLP avatar are the best ones, most refined up to date autism, if you arnt a coward learn how to ball, pp&cube launch, dribble. Punch builds still are really good and will make people ask for express shot nerfs
>>719625043ah you just made it upYou conceded fairly quickly
>>719625140Bebop and Doorman is cancer.>Random hook to guardian because thinking with portals>Get stunned by cart
>>719625140Yes
>>719625140it doesnt have bebop so i wouldnt say so
>>719625172So you can’t name anything that can deal more single target damage
>>719625242i think mcdonalds with maxed out turret autism is the only contender, atleast consistent DPS
>>719596154Homeless Wizard
>>719625014>former Capcom artist in the studioSource? I've seen nothing like L4dy in Valve games.
>>719625242I canI will not argue with retards, however
>>719625315So in other words you actually can’t name anything that deals more single target damage but need an out so you pretend to be above actually substantiating your position
>>719625313Naru Omori, the guy's been working at Valve for 10 years now. He also made this.
>>719625098>you can just walk awayThat can be said about anything
According to a voiceline by Talon to Lash, a lot of Baxter society people end up dead in Portugal or Denmark.
>>719625485Haze ult has very low range, doesn’t silence or impede your movement, you can’t walk away from bebop bomb, you need to break vision with Vindicta ult, etc. but haze is ult is almost melee range
>>719625610Yeah but you can build more range on her tho. boundless spirit plus rico plus unstoppable goes crazy.
>>719598479its because most of the time they end up buying debuff remover which is already one of the best and necessary items in the game
>>719625674So your investing 20k souls into something that doesn’t increase your bullet damage
>>719625751boundless spirit plus qsr literally gives you 400+ bullets and rico gives you tons of damage what are you talking about?
>>719625425Cooler than in-game Jeff.>Valve isn't making anything now that could use the art of the guy who designed coolest Dante.Grim
>>719624015Not what I've experienced visiting there last week. Sure, there are no helpful in-depth discussions, but I've asked some basic question and had at least two good anons reply. Almost zero tranny shit too, are you sure you aren't the one who brought it there? Overall its far from being the worst vg.
>>719625392>>719625315
>>719625140Yeah, this sucked. I'll take Bebop-anyone over Talon-Vindicta any day, especially on a close range hero. That Dynamo was a great support, though. He made good use of the "get out of there, retard" beam.
>>719625014He's on HLX.
>>719626349>That drifterI see Bloodseeker Syndrome is alive and well.
>>719625140Mina + Infernus when you're playing something wide like Abrams is even worse. At least you can just counter these two with knockdown.
>>719624006She has one of the best ults in the game you are just using it wrongShe pushes down Walkers for free and kills Midboss in a few seconds by herself with it. It's incredibly overpowered and needs to be nerfed vs NPCs/towers
>>719626607I just went into sandbox mode with my haze build and I had an ult up for like a minute doing 30k
>>719625303https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2uZ4WeU1_4Irresponsible Wizard would be cool, but we already have Sinclair.
>>719625140Rather play against this than Bebop Mirage or anything aggro + PocketGT Vindicta is only oppressive against close range characters
>>719594882who caresmatchmaking is fucked beyond belief
>>719606660don't forget the clutches where you're respawning and get one final chance to fend off the enemy team from your patron and mina proceeds to pop ult and proc soul burn 500 times and kills it in 2 seconds.
>>719625303isn't Kevin a Bong, how did he get a gun
holiday seemed really cool and stylish until I realized you actually just spike the barrel at your feet with jumping melee and her headshot passive sucks because geist has a way revolver for some reason
Look that this gay motherfucker.
>>719625140nah easily 'two niggers with free damage passives for left clicking on you' are 20x worse
>>719626649And? Mina nukes Midboss/Towers in seconds with just Spirit Burn, she doesn't need an entire build for it. I'm not saying her ult is as good in a fight, I'm saying her ult breaks the game by killing objectives so fast that a fight doesn't even happen.
>>719626662tbf stage wizard and regular spell slinging wizard are very differentwe really do need a wizard that just throws huge fireballs and lightning bolts and arcane bolts and such
>>719627096But that is literally not what you said you FUCKING RETARD
>>719627243>perma drunk hobo wizard as invoker of deadlock
>>719604538thiswish you could ping your own doors
>>719627286That is exactly what I said. I don't know what you think you are responding to
how come it's so hard to find people to play with on this site that aren't literally like alchemist or something
>>719627243>>719627306high society Wizard who's just really slobby
>>719627096Even if that is what you said miku does that better than her. She is legit there for fanservice gooners like you.
>>719627687esl or brain damage?
I just realized that this is basically Valve's darkstalkers
>>719614892they already tweaked drifter
>>719627798Here I'll explain it to you, you lukewarm IQ retard. Miku rats better than Mina, Seven rats better, Infernus rats better. I could go on but you get the point.
>>719627828That looks like shit wtf
>>719627687Nah, you are just wrong. Mina is the best rat in the game right now and has a better way to escape than the other rats too
>>719627889>>719627828They already tweaked the tweak.
>>719627985She is a worse pocket in every way. Pocket rats better than her too.
>>719628046You're just making shit up because you can't admit you're wrong about her ultAverage schizolock thread
>>719627804damn, you are right
Thoughts deadtards?
>>719628105No her ult is poo poo buttcheeks there is a reason they buffed it. I know you can't read but when you learn English you will see it for yourself.
>>719628215>russian accountit's bullshit
>>719628215it is all coming together rather nicely now.
>moba slop in shooter gamePlease tell me spirit builds don't beat aim builds.
>>719628585aim builds win in lategame scenarios
Got any advice for Shiv? Played him twice, stomped in the first game and did absolutely nothing in the second (still won though). Game 2 I was laning against Haze+Victor and I didn't have the leeway to just bully and harass my way around like I did in the first game.The build I'm following is a hybrid build and it feels kind of unfocused, so I'm trying a gun-tank build next.
>>719628719Yeah. Dont use him. He's fucking worthless after the giga nerts.
>>719596154I want a fairy. Fairies are massive bastards and should be real in Deadlock and run the Mafia.
>>719627352Apologies, thought you were the "highest DPS" tardGood to know the ult is good for towers, character is still absolute idarrhea tho
>>719601786>saving Deadlock after the initial leaks.Spring/Summer 2024, Ivy was the least fucking played character, next to Mo&KrillPipe down nigger.
>>719628783Irish mafia fairy.
>>719628215>3 modesAwful>Vacation on OctoberSo another 6 months without updates again like last year
>>719612117>being a massive loser yet so likeableThat's a common archetype, billy is like that tooThe exception is Paige who's a loser yet extremely unlikable
>>719620716Paradox's design is sublime, if they remove the Twin Peaks rose I'm going to kill a motherfucker.
>>719628916>3 modesThis will just be all-pick/draft/captain's mode like dota has, not some ARAM fuck-around mode or CTF.
>>719628873There's something about giving forest chicks inauthentic terrible Celtic accents that really warms my heart, like Kerillian. Dota does it a bunch too.
>>719629105doesn't seem sustainable with the current playerbase, calling bs
>>719629105>Surely not a mode to try and get the Tranny Faggots 2 to play the gam
Matchmaking is pure fucking aids
>>719611295I love the one where she just upfront tells Geist she's gonna mug her for her jewellery after the ritual
I haven't played all the new heroes yet, but Doorman is too fun to ever take off my roster.
>>719629350I may not be able to get kills, but I least I can draw attention of several people at a time for others to push lanes. Unfortunately, I'm in the ranks where team fights often take priority over taking down enemy objectives. Also, that is the strongest Billy I have ever seen.
>>719628215>draft systemSo what actually just queuing people on skill levels, then having people draft heroes on a pick screen? Its inevitable but as long as its not some role queue. >I only queue FIGHTERS and AIMERS, I don't play TANKS or SPIRIT KEKS
>>719628215guessing there will be an aram type mode
>>719613810You have Mcginnis already if you want a fat pig
>>719629105sounds boring, at least Dota 2 had custom maps/games, so it's going to be an inferior Dota 3
>>719629105>>719629767I seriously doubt Deadlock won't have custom game support.Valve is stupid lazy and letting players jingle the keys themselves is plain smart.
>get reported by the entire enemy team for being a "smurf"thanks a lot rank decay
>>719630071based enemy team. next time don't drop ranks. all you got to do is never lose ever
>>719630119he lost rank with time because he hasn't been playing constantly, not because he is loosing games, pay attention
>>719628719something like this was every single deadlock game back in 2024 may/early aprilfun times
>Mina seems like garbage in fights>Just be a fucking rat and ult walkers and guardians I feel this is probably not her intended design
>>719596154german ww1 veteran that's a skelly, uses mortars and mines and turns into a tank monsterwagie that's a brain in a cooler, astral projects as other wagies who you actually play as
>>719630898in a tight hallway or choke point, her ult is undefeated, I.e any inside of a building
>>719631217every thread somebody says they want a WW1 character and show that they don't know anything about the setting, WW1 never happened because time didn't follow a similar chain of events to real life after the magical shit was discovered.
>>719631748>WW1 never happenedWait so Nazis dont exist?Does that mean Germany is still an Empire?
>>719631781yesthere are strings for an imperial german hero being worked on
>>719631781>>719631849Napoleon might've still happened
Call me when they make matchmaking not hot rotten dogshit because I get games so one sided it makes my blood boil more then League ever did. What in the fuck is going on when 3 of my team mates are 0/5 at 10 minutes. Truly what is happening
>>719594882>teammate Victor is getting jumped in a small inclosed space>playing Doorman>throw three bells and a trolley>Victor is slapping shit by standing completely still>practically a teamwipeHoly shit people need to stop fighting in a closet this is getting too commonplace, especially with Victor.
>>719631978the ranks basically reset
>>719628841Yeah but it was everyone seeing her instead of Gey Talon that made people want to play it here
>>719612441Genuinely not excited for open beta, that’s when the hacker count will skyrocket and every match will devolve into anti-gun builds
How in the absolute fuck do you play these niggas?>Mirage>Calico>Ivy<wardenThey gameplay just don't really click with me
>sucks yo dick
>>719628987I liked that even Billy can see through her bullshit>why do you have so many books on you>you can only read one book at a time
>>719594882>PriestYes. I will stop playing Warden and Paigemaster for him.
>>719632149I only know Warden. Buy actives + majestic leap, then faceroll every button while you're landing on someone. Never use ult without majestic leap or at least dash-jumping before the cast animation. Point your gun at the enemy's head.
>>719631748that was just to explain the aesthetic of the character. The reasoning could be anything, like the Ixian War or whatever the lore is.>>719631849neat, what other characters are there?
>>719596154A dog that died but came back in similar fashion to Vindicta, but instead of hunting for revenge he's just been hanging out with the 10 year old kid who was his owner as he aged over the course of 50 years, and the reason he's fighting to release the Patrons is to wish that his owner gets to live longer or some such.And his entire personality is just a 1-to-1 copy of picrel.
>>719631781>Wait so Nazis dont exist?No, fascism in general was born out of WW1 so the ideology as a whole doesn't exist in the is universe.>Does that mean Germany is still an Empire?Most likely, Russia is called the 'Soviet Empire' and is lead by the ghost of Catherine the Great.
>>719611295Vyper seriously has the best VA in this game
>>719632276I can't believed they nerfed his sus grin. But at least they unnerfed it when they realized they went too far.
>>719632389>druid>boho (witch doctor dota 2)>priest (shotgun priest with weapon swaps)>slork>fortuna (luck hero)>poltergeist>succubus>skyrunner (construction worker spiderman)>swan (ballerina with movement abilities)only one we have a picture of is boho
>>719632276>drinks your piss
give drifter a FUCKING gun
>>719632481What kit would Courage have?
>>719596154A big Red DragonA Guy in a Cursed CarConjoined TwinsGoldfish in an Cursed Floating Jar big Cursed Dog
>>719632149>Miragebasically ignore his abilities and build gun, yes you even ignore the gun proc abilityby ignore i mean that you just don't build any spirit items, you just buy orange and green items, maybe CDR just to spam teleport more often, hitting tornadoes lets you get free potshots on enemies and hitting scarabs makes it so they take more damage from gun so that's what you do>Calicoyou press every button like a macro autist and nuke the opponent, or they don't die and you eat shit, honestly don't even bother playing her he has a single usable build (something something spirit snatch cold front) so she's really boring>Wardenmax ult, buy leap, buy CDR and just spam ultmaxing your ult gives you 80% resistance to bullet/spirit (yes, EIGHTY, that's more than yamato whose ult's whole point was resists) so you are basically unkillable, just build into that and turn your brain off he's the easiest character ever
>patron's head on half hp>everyone is running after kills instead>we loseI am flabbergasted.
>>719632896Warden's ult resists only apply during the 2s channel time
why can't I stop playing this game
>>719632896so with mirage you just build gun? does his other abilities even do anything useful? i mean his ult is to teleport to an enemy
>>719633121Because I personally won't let you
>>719633121It's really addictive if it clicks with youI lost track of time playing Doorman and barely got any sleep last night.
>>719633209You either build gun damage or gun debuff ricochet spreading aids. His spirit scaling is mediocre and he doesn't have much flash to his kit. It is kind of fun to turn off a Drifter's gank and make it 2v1I'd just leave him benched for now since he needs some work.
>>719632761Off the top of my head I'm thinking>Ability 1: most basic attack where he rushes in and just bites your opponent since he's a fuckin dog, could have his head grow weirdly big since he's a cartoon to make it funnier>Ability 2: Courage does a loud funnne scream that does damage to opponents in a cone/circle around him, causing spirit damage and spirit resist debuff>Ability 3: Courage does his "trying to explain there's a monster" gag that gives him and nearby allies a movement speed buff or something>Ult: He transforms into a giant monster of some sort that gives him bonus damage, damage resist and so onI dunno how to design actual characters so I'm just working off of gags lol
>>719596154skin walker that can shapeshift
>>719632149>>719632896>Ivyrat with tesla and fire rate because her gun is the gun that can abuse tesla the most, her ult lets you get in or out of ratting very easily so even if your damage isn't that great you have the best way to abuse the opportunitiesspirit CC is just buying tankiness, spirit items and CC, mostly so you can make the insane ult bomb -> kudzu -> stone form -> arctic blast/vortex web combo which basically kills anyone you hit as long as someone else is there to also shoot at them >>719633209>>719633209>so with mirage you just build gun?yes>does his other abilities even do anything useful? i mean his ult is to teleport to an enemyyes, his 4 abilities all serve the purpose of making your gun better and making you survive/chase fights more easily, and all have dogshit spirit scaling so there's no reason to try to improve them with itemsthe ult is OP general utility and it also has no spirit scaling at all and buffs your gun
>>719633121It’s actually good with a high skill ceiling, but with the jank matchmaking it’s also gambling where you can get matched up with either sub glacial IQ motherfuckers or knee crushing stomp gods
>>719629569You left the match ID in, defeats the purpose of censoring names
>>719633708I always leave it. If you care to see the match, go ahead.
Victor and Drifter are so OP you cant play this retarded fucking game anymore.
>>719633592Mr. Yoshi, you might want to see this
>>719633790>DrifterStun his ass>VictorStun his ass and use antihealEvery single player I’ve meet that uses those characters always stack their items but never use active items or debuff removers. Usually end up stunning them 3-4 times with the Doorman>anvil>door and trolley into position>trolley stuns>refresh item to trolley stun again>send to hotelIf the cunt isn’t dead or atleast half dead by then you’re either throwing or the game has already been lost
>>719633701>but with the jank matchmaking it’s also gambling where you can get matched up with either sub glacial IQ motherfuckers or knee crushing stomp godsIn my experience the only thing you're really gambling on is which team gets victor, drifter and seven
>>719634907>get a match against Seven, Lash, Victor and Drifterthat was a very unfun time
>>719634205Here's the thing.If Drifter can be fed so much until he's unstoppable, your teammate is most likely the one doing the feeding, and will be completely useless to help kill drifter even if you stun him for 5 full seconds. Especially when the enemy team are there to help out too.
>>719594882>coffee/tea in wine glassDISGUSTAN
I need Bebop tips.
>>719633790Stop. Feeding. Them.
>>719635348Do not hook where they are unless they're right in front of youHook where you know they WANT to beAlso, punch them backward toward your tower.Or failing all of the above, just buy echo shard + majestic leap, put two bombs on yourself and dive right at them
>>719635408I cant exactly stop my team from doing so, or eat all the crates on the map.
Release the new Vyper model so I can goon to her dialogue
>>719627306>>719627243>>719625303>>719596154HOBO INVOKER NOW!!!
>>719596154>>719608180>Ozymandias>>Egyptian pharoah whose mummy was on display at the MET until the new eclipse, risen again and seeking the Patrons to grant him life after the ritual so he can turn New York into his new empireThis could've been Calico if she wasn't a fucking NIGGER
>>719635659Meant to add this >>719599963. This design would work great with Calico, not a fucking "cat lady" shit.
>>719635408They dont even need to be fed.
Is Victor fucking broken? I like playing him but I'm afraid they'll just nerf him soon. I was 20k souls behind but still second in damage in the lobby.
>>719633121>>719633269>>719633274>>719633701tfw already have 900 hours in a game thats only in alpha
>>719635854His fucking aura is doing more than seven's ult with the same items.
>>719594882femcels voice lines be like>tall white men owe me sex even doe they're literal rotting corpses
>>719635514This, need snek wife
Th-thanks team
>>719635906It murders him at the same rate and has a tiny aoe, of course it does more damage.
>>719635949He isn't picky as long as they die
>>719636001Assists give you less than half of the value of a final hit.
>>719635859For me, it's 1,100
>>719635514yesss give it to me
>>719594882>got into low ELO>i can no longer play heroes I want to because only seven,drifter,haze,victor,billy wins gamesIt sucks cuz I only like playing haze out of these but it is what it is.I lost like 12 ranks playing heroes I want and despite doing well we just lost cuz fucking Mirage and Sinclar wont win games, a single fucking Seven ult will.I have a 80% winrate since I stopped playing fun heroes
>>719635514I'm pretty sure if Sclut hit up Vyper with his fried chicken line, he'd be set for life before getting stabbed after an alleyway fuck.
>>719596154Cultist that got used as a vessel to summon a powerful demon. The demon wasn't able to take over him completly and it often whispers to the host and ocassionaly takes over the body and interuptes his dialogue. Both want to fully control the body but have to work together to succeed in the trial. Neither knows whose wish the patron will fullfill first and both WILL want to terminate the other.
>>719636154>got into low ELO>i can no longer play heroes I want to because only seven,drifter,haze,victor,billy wins gamesActual fucking skill issuet. support Ivy spammer climbing from rank decayed Arcanist 3, now at Emissary 6
>>719636280This one's a fun idea, but the concept's maybe too similar to Sinclair
>>719636381Ivy is busted thoughI will not play her, faggot ass character for gooners
>>719636280The game already has "two people, one body" in Sinclair.
>>719636460>Ivy is busted thoughWeren't you JUST complaining about Seven Drifter Victor et al??
>>719611115No one mentioned Limbus until you did, genuinely kill yourself tranny freak.
>>719635197Then you gotta be the one to stop them, sorry to say but you’ve gotta carry the team and snap Drifters neck even it means doing a full counter build
>>719636791Ye but Ivy is in there as well but I wont play her.Mo and Grey Talon as well but they are not fun either.I played against an Ivy that went all in on the AOE vine shit and could basically deny an whole lanes area with bullshit damage and slow, was kinda funny.By far was the most dmg on their team.
>>719599963>When she ults every enemy hero currently in her view gets an incantation in the form of a magic word above her head. They have to get out of her view before the player themselves type each of their words out killing each of them typing of the dead style.I hate that games have to be balanced because this sounds like such a fun idea that will never in a million years work because of balance reasons. Like, there's no way you could let this character ever be good since the gameplay is so "out there" compared to everything else, but it sounds like a ton of fun.
>>719636540>>719636442I think both can coexist. Same concept, different relationships. Sinclair being the "we understand each other" and Culltist dipping into "evil spirit possesing me". For ability kit it could have ult that enhances all abilities with additional effects letting the demon take over or be first transformation character that switches between human form focusing on gun damage and demon form focusing on spirit damage.
>>719636952>MoKinda fair, his winrate is pretty high in most brackets>Grey TalonHe's an actual shit tier hero though, the higher you go in rank the lower his winrate dropsI don't think you've quite got your finger on the pulse of which picks are shit like you think you do. Drifter, Victor, Seven, are the only things that are really busted with their absurd winrates. Ivy's got a consistent ~51% winrate across most brackets, she's slightly above average and that's it
>>719627804Give me a quick rundown why.
>>719637259Five of the six new heroes and a few of the old ones are spooky.
>>719627804Deadlocks characters could easily work as fighting game archetypes>DrifterRush>AbramsGrappler>DoormanTech>ViscousRanged
>>719625140>landing against Drifter and Lash>as a squishyThat was not a fun time
>>719596154A professional stunt performer, think like Buster Keaton but he is both melee based and movement based, allows him to dodge bullets and possibly melee with quick reaction, his passive allows him to deal bonus damage whenever he avoids attacks and abilities close by (or targeted). His first ability is him flipping forward, dodging projectiles and melee, and upon landing, delivering a powerful kick that knocksback target and damages them, if he dodged midflip, his cooldowns reduced, for his second ability he throws random stage props like chair, bottle, etc out of thin air, AoE damage with slow effect, and his third ability allows him to run up on a wall and bounce off it for leaping on short distance, and if he does that near an enemy, he can do an elbow drop which damages enemy and reduces fire rate, and finally his ult gives him both bullet and spirit resist immunity for a short duration, but melee still damages him, but he can dash through enemies and damages them, and if the ult ends, he will dramatically "crash" down on the ground, dealing AoE damage and stuns, kinda like Infernus ult.
>>719594882low bar
>>719636540Delete Sinclair
>>719637649I forgot to add a weapon for him, it could be a prop gun that fires blanks but still damages (albeit bad velocity). Or it could be a flare gun modified for combat. I can also suggest a cane that is actually a rifle, possible nod to other stunt actors like Charlie Chaplin.
>>719635534I'm rooting for hobo invoker too. It would be a very grounded character idea.
>>719598479nah most of the guides require you to check the discord or their youtube for a breakdown. It's not great and I've given up on making guides because the recent update keeps deleting them.
so how is the game these dayslast time I played we had 4 lanes and shiv just released
>>719631978I'm gonna fucking scream. I'm in no way a shitter but some days on this game they just shove shit down your throat all day if you let it. I could go on some 7 win streak, rank up twice, then randomly be met with a day where I get nothing but literal full middle eastern 70 IQ teams on my EU server vs stacks. Even my wins yesterday just felt like they kinda just 'happened' out of circumstance like draft. It feels like Oracle is a fucking gulf and if I'd just get to Phantom games would be more tolerable. Thanks rank decay. I was fucking Ascendant 6.
>>719639379>I'm in no way a shitterI got bad news...
>>719633636>rat with tesla and fire rate because her gun is the gun that can abuse tesla the moststop giving stupid fucking advice. tesla has a CD and ivy's gun being as fast as it is is a disadvantage. you will barely proc tesla by the end of a mag. buy actual gun items if you must. she's still just best played as a support.
>>719639429Yeah good thing I don't take alchemist retard opinions seriously on /v/. Not one of you fucks could take me in a 1v1.
>>719639296It’s good but matchmaking is completely borked from the influx of new players returning old, it’s a stomp or be stomped world
>>719639296better
>>719639570>1v1 in a moba lmfaoI'm ascendant with a 65% winrate
>>719636460you might be mentally retarded if you think she's any more busted than the permanently broken roster of lmb characters in 99% of games.
>>719639631Drop your friend ID and I'll check for myself.
>>719636001That's an odd line when it's considerably more important for him to get last hits than Vindicta
>leaves the threadlmao
>>719639928>when it's considerably more important for him to get last hits than VindictaVindicta's the one who gets far more value out of a last hit though
>>719639379>ivy+paigeCool, what's your build? Actual support healer or are you one of those gunoids I've heard of
>pick drifter>winit is THAT easy
>>719640152ivy nova beam barrier knockdown/cursepaige spirit build
>>719596154>>719625303MERASMUS FUCKING WHEN?
>>719596154>Sea-ship Captain that was fused with his ship by a roaming Eldrich entity that did it cause the Captain cursed out the entity for making him drop his best glass of wine overboard. Has the ability to shoot cannon balls out of his arm that can bounce between people when upgraded as a passive ability. His ultimate is calling upon the eldrich beach as a taunt and riding on-top of it across a full lane, stunning and dealing damage to anyone within that lane. (Can be canceled by pressing space)
>>719594882This game has the ugliest, least appealing art design I've ever seen in a shooter.
>>719621382that calico design is awful but really i put 90% of the blame on the hairstylesinclair boggles my mind on how he made it in with that model and the characters still stuck in the fucking code have better models than him
>>719640257DRIFTER NO!
>>719640428that's simply a lie because battleborn existed
>>719594882What's a good noob Mina build that's not the meme EZ WIN LR build?
>>719625059this looks like shit too
>>719640428Thanks be to God that you aren't in art design then. You can check my 7 tho ya fucking baked potato
>>719640616drop this?
>>719640492That is how it goes on this bitch of an earth
>>719595325> Double bomb was too fun so they yeeted itbomb having infinite scaling is good though? I don't think double bomb was ever stronger than it is now but I am a bit murky on it since there was a year gap between when I last played and when I started playing again. Gunbop was always pretty meh even last year. It was great if you could reliably hook uppercut headshot people for like two? patches when uppercut completely deleted your movement and ever since then it's been very shit. I think hook range should be double it's base, and the cooldown should be 15s at most, but you shouldn't get either range/cooldown from the point investments.
>>719625303>voiced by a drunk gabe newell
>>719640081Vindicta gets 250 souls base, and 850 with ult maxxed vs. 5% permanent weapon damage each isolated kill, and what 2% for assist?
>>719637882Thinking this through, the character shouldn'r be drunk. We've seen enough of the drunk savant archetype like demoman. Make him just homeless. Even better if he's the voluntary Diogenes type of homeless
How do I convince people to actively respond to *potential* pushes as opposed to pushes that have already begun? People only rotate to base assets/walkers when they're already taking damage. They don't fucking care when you ask them to clean a lane, and will gladly waste time finishing their jungle camp or w/e letting our walker lose 1000 life just for 50 fucking souls. I've sick of gun heroes just m1ing my buildings to death and I can only rotate so many times.
>>719640876>erm bebop should be allowed just baseline displace someone from their entire team half way across the map into yours every 15s actuallyyea that won't be fucking annoying at all.
>>719641175>FREE levelups and 6400 items handed to you on a silver platterversus>less than the lowest value urn powerup's weapon damage boostYeah, Vindicta deserves it more
>>719641402>got chat banned>can't tell people how to macro anymore>losing more gamesI give up
>>7196414251 6400 item at 10 kills vs. double weapon damage...
>>719641581>doubleIt's added on to the generic weapon damage stat you get from investing in gun items, jar buffs, and item stats. It's not multiplicative.I'm sorry you had to learn this way
>>719641402I am also tired of playing lane janitor instead of getting to actually fight. At least I have 50k souls...
>>719631781>Nazis never happened>occultism is realWould Valve have the sheer balls to include Adolf the World-Famous Occult Chronicler? Not even as a hero but just as a lore detail or NPC or something.
>>719642272Was Hitler into the occult? I thought that was mainly Himmler.
>>719639512tesla has a proc chance on top of a proc CD, so the higher your fire rate the more chances you'll get to proc the effect so you'll cycle CDs quickerthe CD per shock is like 0.25s, if you can proc it consistently it can add up to 160 DPS for just a t3it melts objectives, you should try it out
>>719639654>lmb characters in 99% of games.bro just buy one return damage or metal skin
>>719641758Yeah, I got no idea how this shit works desu
>>719598658Feel like i've seen your art before
>>719642373It was mostly Himmler but there's so much memey bullshit pop-history about it because of stupid books and the History channel's """documentaries""" that Hitler is included, as well. It would just be funny to lean into that completely and make Hitler a painter with vast knowledge of the occult.
>>719642581>G*tcha out of nowhereGo back to bickering about your slop instead of tainting kino game threads.
>>719596948please be shotgun hero, please be shotgun hero
>>719598658kys pedo
>>719642750>triggered by image macros
>>719642735>Functionally make him the same as grimstroke except give him an ability where he shoots himself to deny himself instead of giving souls to the enemy teamWould it be kino
>>719598658
>>719642847Thanks for the compliment, retard.
>>719642849Your kind ruins everything it touches. Deadlock would be no exception, that's why we gotta gatekeep from you.
>>719642847this but unironically
>>719642943Hey what did you use for reference btw?
>>719642847this but ironically
>>719618412mina alone got me to play the gameand to jerk off 2-3x a day
>>719625059i really like this design but the colors clash too much
>>719642847
>>719642949But I'm already and have already been here for ages. The image was a contextual hook in reference to where I suppose to have seen the art before, lacking an actual source.Wasting post count bitching like a woman is hardly healthy for the threads either, you colossal fag.
>>719641758Yeah but amped IS multiplicative. So you're getting 25% more out of all your numbers in a majority of situations.
>>719640561I like Zerggy's. You only really need boundless, spirit burn and tank buster, the rest should be complementary to that and survival items.
i only like mina and paige in this game, but i have to choose 3 heroes, life is tough...
>>719643929wait till you realize you cannot choose only new heroes
>>719644058i know... i only want to play those two why do all the other characters sukc
>>719644181>>719643929>no gameplay commonalities>Mina is a horrible pick for new players >has to have a hot girl in the corner of his screen to enjoy himselfshiggydiggy
>>719645580name 3 interesting characters i can play
>>719596154Double Barrel Shotgun/ Melee brawler heroHas a mechanic where he is always limited to 2 bullets with items that give him ammo capacity instead giving him reload speed or damage. Has a dash for gap closing on his 2 and his 1 has a melee damage scaling component. He doesnt really scale much off spirit items. Basically I want my alt fire only melee shiv build but as standalone hero.
Returning player her, how do I play Victor?
>>719645580>has to have a hot girl in the corner of his screen to enjoy himselfThis but unironically yes.
>>719643340>SlurpslurpslurpGo back to your containment thread g*tcha tranny
>>719645710buy spirit resist and infuser and then become unkillable
>>719645645paradox and vinny were the designated AGP picks before the big updatemaybe holliday for the third if you know about meleeing barrels
>>719645918wtf is AGP pick
>>719598658based
>>719619261Not yet, I'm building up a gallery though and must fill it with brat Mina.
damn drifter is pretty fucking bullshit. basically no counter
>>719646940his counter is never being allowed to get a bunch of kills which you cant control
>>719647083too bad, I am on a match right now and our retarded kevin and wraith fed the guy and he is on a 18 kill streak. he has 4.5k health
>>719645710bloodstone
FACT: Mo&Krill are canonically the most powerful characters in the game.You're telling me low level two bit gangsters are competing again demigods? They're hiding something.
>>719646604Yes, you should.
Opinions?this is a win rate chart btw.
>>719647708basically in order of how braindead they aremina is kinda shit though
>>719647708unbalanced garbage
