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obligatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVkGtVJVYps

basically yes

>>719598351
Yes, now finish the game, then move to 2, 3, ODST and Reach in that order, and if you have access to and like RTS games, Halo Wars. Also I hope you're playing on Heroic, anything lower can get a bit too easy.

c/e is the only halo i've played from start to finish

No, 2's campaign kinda sucks, but 3, ODST and Reach are fine as single player titles. CE's my personal fav for multiplayer though.

Stop playing after Halo 3: ODST.

Halo 1 through Reach are good games

>>719598684
100% correct and based anon

>>719598351
Nah, CE is the best one by far.

>>719598351
Everything until Reach is great, 4 sucks (I only enjoy it because I went to the midnight release when I was 10), 5 is godawful, infinite is only good for multiplayer. There are also the 2 top down games but those can be ignored unless you play Halo 4 and really like Sarah Palmer for some reason.

>>719598351
Someone on here bought me the mc collection last Christmas. Thanks bro.

>>719599140
Damn people buying games for others on /v/ is real?

>>719598351

1, 2, and 3 are. 2 and 3 had the best multiplayer. 2 had the sweatiest multiplayer with an insanely high skill ceiling. 3’s multiplayer was a little more noob friendly but still good. In terms of campaign, I prefer 1 and 2. They’re all good though.

>>719599770
people dont want to admit it but halo 5's multiplayer was goat, frankly maybe the best the series has ever seen

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Cutscenes since 3 have been a delight to watch. I'm currently playing Reach and it has so many good moments.

>>719599592
People here are always quite generous on Christmas Day. I’ve bought for others and received plenty.

>>719598684
Do this

>>719598351
2 has great writing and music, but everything else is dogshit. Level design and checkpoint system, weapon sandbox, new enemy types, flood changes, legendary difficulty balancing, it's all ass.
3 is mostly in between CE and 2's quality. Writing takes a hit, music is still great but goes back to CE's orchestral style, level design and weapons are much better.
ODST is a cool sidestory.
Reach is kind of bad. Weapons are worse, less enemy variety, new artstyle is a downgrade that 343 carriers for the next decade, the story isn't very good, the characters are really bland.

>>719599959
sometimes I think about how good we had it
https://youtu.be/uUbcU_kjK3c

>>719598351
2 is a trillion times worse, halo reach is fun, 3 gets boring fast but odst is interesting.... thats it.

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>>719598351
2 is the best

>>719601380
>Reach is kind of bad. Weapons are worse, less enemy variety, new artstyle is a downgrade that 343 carriers for the next decade, the story isn't very good, the characters are really bland.
I wouldn't say that the weapons are worse, just different. Needle Rifle is a good weapon, the problem is that enemies dodge a lot in this game, but on the other hand, the Magnum and Plasma Pistol feel as good as in CE and in my opinion, it has one of the best Assault Rifles in the series. What I would complain is the lack of weapon variety, you rarely get Plasma Swords, there's no Carbine and for a game that also has Brutes, there are no Brute Shots, which might be a blessing in disguise. Also no dual wielding.

I do like the story, and knowing that it's a prequel to the series, it's still bittersweet seeing how the Nobles are slowly picked one by one. I just got to the part where Kat dies, just like that she was headshot out of nowhere, it actually hurt.

>>719603520
Reach nerfed practically every weapon.

>>719598351
It gets better from there.

>>719603512
2 was by far the best campaign but to this day I wonder about the game we could have got if Bungie had more time to make the game they wanted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOKd43qJcXU

I desperately need more games in Halo 1 and Halo 3's engine

No, CE is the only good one, rest are blockbuster movie wannabe slop with way less atmosphere, terrible weapons most of which are useless and a retarded plot with aliens that speak English and a Hive Mind with a fucking leader.

Enjoy teleporting every 2 minutes for plot convenience and waiting for an elevator every 5 minutes in Gaylo 2.

Play CE and Reach and then ignore everything else.

>>719603512
>>719604246
2 is dogshit, kill yourself.

>>719603512
Any time I see the first level of Halo 2, it reminds me of how blown away I was that this was on the same console as Halo 1. Felt like a huge leap for the same generation.

>>719604297
Play custom campaign mods
Mercury Rising, Operation Solar Flare, Firefight Descent and Lumoria are all great.

>>719604602
Outside the ragdoll physics and better lipsync it looked like ass with muddy textures and desaturated colors.

>>719598351
No, every game after this one is a disappointment. Infinite is the closest one to emulating this game but still falls short. Cheers to this series future endeavors if Microsoft doesn't kill it too.

>>719604602
Back then it was amazing, now it just looks boring. The extra detail and realism aged worse than CE's more colorful and cartoonish artstyle.

>>719604972
Yeah, it's funny coming back to it now and seeing it as it is. I rather prefer how CE looks overall these days.

>>719604578
Based.
>fight through a series of linear corridors to a medium sized area
>have to sit there for the next 30 minutes as the game slowly spawns 11 attack waves
>no checkpoints until the end so if you die once fuck you lmao
>finally some asshole on the radio says you are allowed to go forward again
>fight through a series of linear corridors to a medium sized area

>>719598351
you should coop with a friend

2 didn't meet expectations, 3 was better due to more performance headroom. All 3 games have meh levels but they really aren't worth talking about, just get through them

>>719604962
>Infinite is the closest one to emulating this game but still falls short
Congratulations. This is the most dogshit opinion I've read all week.

>>719598351
CE is great, 2 sucks, 3 is good, ODST is great, Reach is okay but has a really good finale.

>>719605156
Worse is the linear vehicle sections and every level looking the same past the final Earth Level.
High Charity itself plus most Arbiter levels are somehow worse than the Library in CE.

>>719603512
this level is better than pillar of autumn but they really should've skipped "the space station level" in the second game entirely and just go to wide open set piece. First time I played halo I didn't realize my friend exercised extreme intelligence and just started us on the second level.

Also climing smgs were shit. I love pulldown crosshair mechanics on PC but on analog sticks its trash and it didn't add to the game.

>>719605347
CE's levels repeated in reverse are still better with more variety than 2's.

>>719604246
Anon, you can play that level as a mod.
And it sucks.

>>719605216
CE has great levels and it's a shame Bungie never focused on the open ended ones and instead turned Halo 2 into a corridor shooter and 3 into a bunch of scripted sequences with some really nice scale but not much more.

>>719605432
Yep, 2 level design and enemy encounters are just that bad.
Halo 2? More like Halo: Gondola Evolved.

>>719605430
>this level is better than pillar of autumn
How? Fucking how? PoA is fast-paced close-quarters action. You are only limited by how fast you can kill everything in front of you, it even has some nonlinearity with the maintenance ducts allowing you to skip some enemies. 2's first level is everything wrong with the game. Multiple times you are fucked by >>719605156.

>>719604246
2 has a good campaign provided you aren't trying to play it on Legendary. Then it becomes by far the worst one in the series with far too many shitty sections where you can be stuck in death loops because of either enemy placement or the sheer amount of instant aggression and increased attack rates enemies get. The Brutes become nightmares that can only be taken out with insta kill weapons like the Needler or fucking explosives. It's not fun.

>>719605278
Shut up faggot, gameplay above everything else even if it's repetitive trash to an extent. Video games aren't meant to be fucking Hollywood movies, it's why Halo went to shit right after the first game. Xbox sucked

>>719605156
Not to mention that Halo 2 nerfs half of the fun weapons from CE and all the new weapons suck massive donkey dick. The Brute launcher is literally fucking nonfunctional.

>>719605569
>?the game literally stops for like 30 seconds because it wants the player to look out the window and see one of its setpieces exploding
>the outer space sections are slow and obnoxious, never done again

>>719605636
The Brute Shot works fine. I dunno what you're talking about.

>>719605572
Halo 2 sucks on any difficulty
Zoomeroid Brownoids in this shit board only remember it or the half decent multiplayer, their first multiplayer FPS.

Even CE had better multiplayer, but that was PC only.

>>719605156
Halo CE's problems are 10x worse than a handful of defense sections. Which Halo 1 has plenty of too if you forgot. There's more defense sections in The Library alone than all of Halo 2 combined.

>>719604602
then you get to africa and the lighting is terrible with no shadows, the two colors you can look at are brown and brown, and everything is bump mapped but at n64 texture resolution. The environment detail is ass in larger areas too. Bungie completely misused their graphics budget. With doom 3 lighting it would've looked amazing but they decided to base all their assets around that then found out the xbox can't handle it

>>719605691
>shoot enemy
>invisible projectile ricochets off enemy, doing no meaningful damage, and explodes off in a corner somewhere
It sucks.

>>719605746
Works on my machine.

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>>719605636
Wrong, you'd never kill an Elite with an AR this quickly.

Sounds like a lot of skill issue in this thread to have so much difficulty with Halo 2.

>>719605636
Brute works fine
You know what doesn't?
>SMG if not dual wielded
>Needler
>Pistol
>Shotgun
Worse yet Bungie had the great idea of making you fight against Plasma resistant weapons (Brutes) with nothing but Plasma Weapons.

Fantastic game design!

>>719605736
You can directly compare the Halo maps remade in Halo 2 and see 2 is obviously better looking.

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2 will always be my favorite, but I'm biased. I didn't have an Xbox, only a PC, so I was limited to the Gearbox port of CE and the GFWL Halo 2. Never played 3, ODST, or Reach til MCC came to steam. I just watched the cutscenes on YouTube lol. I must have played the H2 campaign a hundred times.

>>719605792
Holding down M1 and M2 to spam dual-wield fire as your only consistently viable option isn't fun you tasteless fag. The only Dual Wield option in H2 that's even remotely interesting is using the plasma pistol charge shot for a shield break followed by normal pistol headshot for a kill.

Man, what the fuck happened. Between halo 1-reach/Gears 1-3 Microsoft was untouchable. Such a fall from grace that needs to be studied, Because not even acquiring Activision has softened the blow to their image as a result of damage suffered during this gen (to the Halo series, especially)

>>719605860
>Plasma resistant weapons (Brutes) with nothing but Plasma Weapons
Just use the Needler. It works fine in singleplayer.
Carbine is also extremely effective on Brutes on all difficulties, even legendary.

>>719601380
2 wrote the series into irreversible mistakes

Right when the game opens you see the arbiter on trial, the 3 prophets, how the convent is organized, they have voiced dialogue, you basically learn everything important about the covenant in a few minutes and the mystery and intrigue is completely gone. You also play as the arbiter before he is established as a cool and likeable character. So instead of "holy shit I can't believe I get to play as the arbiter chad" it's "I'm playing as this arbiter guy now I guess".

Then they do the same thing they did with the covenant but for the flood. They make the flood controlled by one monster that also has voiced dialogue and learn everything important about him in one conversation. From there the only remaining mysteries are forerunner shit which is just more exposition on "a long time ago they fucked up, the end".

>>719605728
CE has 2 locked sections in the whole game.
Halo 2 has like 12 of them

>>719605792
Point blank, absolutely could, shame you never played it.

>>719605807
>Halo 2
>The Halo that lets you bypass whole sections of the levels with invisibility
>Hard
Eat a fucking dick fangirl

>>719605583
And what great gameplay it is to fight the same stupid camps set in a green valley for the whole game, except you can approach them from a different direction sometimes. Always in between linear grey corridor dungeons too. Real fucking novel and interesting. Enjoy your slop you undiscriminating swine

>>719605924
Yes it is fun. That's literally what a shooter is you fucking retard.

Anyone who says play reach is retarded, just play 1-3 and odst. Reach sucks balls.

>>719606083
Better than the shit that came post-Halo CE. Fuck Microsoft for never learning from the FPS genre and going into to try and destroy it.

>>719605954
>Such a fall from grace that needs to be studied,
Literally every USA-focused game company has exploded in the exact same way. It doesn't need to be "studied", we know exactly how it happens.
>Make good games
>Sell off your good IP to move on to "bigger and better" things
>Make dogshit live service and/or cinematic garbage that might be pretty good for a game or two but very quickly turns bad
>Get gutted by your parent company because LOL SHAREHOLDERS
>All the talent leaves
>IP is raped by whatever company you sold it to until nobody wants anything to do with it
>Parent company is publicly traded so they don't give a shit about training new staff for the long-term and making genuine quality vidya (since staff retention is ALWAYS bad for NUMBER GO UP)
Same song and dance, every single fucking time. Naughty Dog, Bungie, Insomniac, all of them. That's what they all do/did.

>>719605569
POA is the same hallway copy pasted 20 times and a cafeteria, thats how. Then they copy pasted that as the last level

>>719605860
You're complaining about being locked to plasma weapons against Brutes when the same level that pits Chief against them is filled to the brim with Needlers, which is one of the best weapons in the game when dual wielded. As the other anon said, Carbines were also really good against them, granted you knew how to aim to headshot them consistently. I rarely had issues dealing with Brutes during the entire game.

>>719606072
>The Halo that lets you bypass whole sections of the levels with invisibility
Sorry anon, unlike your casual ass, I played the whole levels on Heroic as they should and outside of some deaths here and there and sniper Jackals being assholes, the difficulty was fair. Learn how to play before opening your bitch ass mouth.

>>719605969
None exist at the beginning of Uprising

>>719606037
Yep, they turned the Covenant from a mysterious alien race to just Human Religious Zealots.
>Gravemind
Don't remind me, I was like 12 and I started laughing my ass off at that trash.
>Hivemeind
>Has a talking head
So fucking retarded, at least Halo 3 tried to put all that garbage into the background.

When you first saw Halo, were you blinded by its' majesty?

>>719598351
Uh yeah. It's even better coop.

>>719606365
Blinded?

>>719606331
>Yep, they turned the Covenant from a mysterious alien race to just Human Religious Zealots.
Read the manual of Combat Evolved.

>>719606174
Halo 3 and ODST suck outside the Gausshog and the destructable Scarabs.
Reach at least tries something different and commits to the military grunge where ODST disn't have the balls.

>>719606415
Paralyzed? Dumbstruck?

>>719605885
I remember multiplayer halo 2 looking better and halo 1 multiplayer maps looking like complete ass, so that's no surprise. It's not like all of halo 2 looks bad. But it does always look blurry and spartan areas like the city look like shit but delta halo looks good

>>719605569
>Corridor in Halo CE
>"fAst paced closed quarters Action!"
>Corridor in Halo 2
"corridor shooter.."
These are the people telling you Halo 2 bad. You also move quicker in 2 btw

>>719606473
No!

>>719606509
>You also move quicker in 2 btw
Yeah and the movement is slippery as fuck and the jump feels like shit compared to 1.

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>>719606546
The movement in 2 is snappy and responsive as fuck. And the jump in Halo 1 is balls.

>>719606534
Yet the microsoft were able to evade your good taste, land in the gaming scene, and desecrate it with their filty games.

>>719606612
Nah, it's shit, both counts. Halo 2 feels worse in every way. Not to mention that the H2 Health System is a downgrade in every fucking way.

>>719606331
Anon, they're literally called the COVENANT

>>719606509
One single room in cairo took longer than the entirety of PoA, and half of it is just you sitting there waiting for the entry pods to shit out some elites and grunts. In CE those entry pod squads explode out instantly like chads, they die, and you move on.

>>719606509
...You know that Halo CE is known for it's wide open sections with vehicle combat AND it's corridor shooting? It's literally the second level of the game.

>>719606330
Uprising does that, not High Charity you fucking dunce.
Bungie literally starts you off with a needler and gives another one in the ground in High Charity, they give you a fucking Plasma Rifle in Uprising and then pit you against 6 Brutes.
I finished the game on Heroic 6 times with different mods and the game sucked everytime.
You can literally bypass whole sections of the game with Arbiters invisibility.

>>719606437
Aliens, in Halo 2 they act, talk and behave like humans.

>>719606621
Noble shitposter, surely you understand that once the shareholders attacked...

>>719606647
No it isn't. You're dumb.

>>719598351
No one ever denies Halo being a good game, what we deny is how much the Halo fans like to suck it off when it's just a good FPS game and not the greatest game ever made.

>>719606717
You were right to focus your attention on the shareholders, but this Halo Studios? This 343 industries?

>>719606715
>You can literally bypass whole sections of the game with Arbiters invisibility.
literally the point

>>719606509
>>719606546
>My first Gaylo was 2
lol, 2 gargles balls

>>719606715
>Aliens, in Halo 2 they act, talk and behave like humans.
did you just miss the grunt dialog in halo 1 or what
the covenant were always human-ish

>>719606786
>No stahhp you cant suck off the greatest game ever made because...well you jsut cant!

>>719606789
By the time I learned of those Demon's intent, there was nothing I could do

>>719606786
This, also removing the health packs after the first game was one of the most retarded decisions any studio could make.

>>719606437
Not that anon, and it is right that they were revealed as religious to the audience in halo 1, but the problem is halo 2 just makes them fully retarded and guilty spark explains everything to them and they ignore him. I just can't be intimidated by 3 geriatric brainlets. Then they combine this terrible villain design with a joke boss battle where you board his chair and punch him. It almost feels like a kojima tier prank but I think they were serious

>>719606826
Did you even read my post, retard? I was calling Halo 2 shit.

>>719606851
You are one of /v/'s most treasured instruments. Long have you lead your fleet with honor and distinction. But, your inability to safeguard Halo was a colossal failure.

NAY, IT WAS REDDIT!

>>719606708
Too bad the vehicles in CE controls like ass and way more fun in 2

>>719599858
I too enjoyed literally three maps

>>719604246
That''s not the real story of what happened in Halo 2. That E3 demo is a teaser at what is waiting for us in "Pimps at Sea" when it's found.

>>719606892
I will continue my campaign against Microsoft!

The rest of the series is just juggling a peashooter and a heavy weapon through loud-quiet-loud firefights and increasingly too-long vehicle sections

>>719606929
No you will not.
The Great Happening is about to begin. But when it does, the weight of your faggotry will stay your feet... and you shall be left behind.
Thanks for playing anon.

>>719606786
BUT MUH MICROSOFT IS AMERICAN AND SAVING GAMING NOW PAY FOR THAT DUMBED DOWN PC SHOOTERS MULTIPLAYER AND MAP PACKS!!!

>>719606802
>The point is being not difficult
You played yourself, good job retard

>>719606832
Grunts were comedy relief, but thats merely Grunts.
Halo 2 completely ruined the Covenant by humanizing them.

>>719606882
Misquoted my bad

>>719606878
>but the problem is halo 2 just makes them fully retarded and guilty spark explains everything to them and they ignore him.
You mean just like IRL religious nutjobs? I'm not exactly seeing the issue here.

Jesus Christ could literally come down from the heavens and tell (certain sects) Christians evolution is real, the world is not 6000 years old, and Noah's flood never happened and you would have many people calling him a lying libtard

>>719607169
>Jesus Christ could literally come down from the heavens

stop being christian

>>719606869
I completely forgot about this and was dumbstruck when I realized why Halo 2 doesn't have a health bar when I played it for the first time in over a decade. These are good games but I understand why retro FPS fans hate them.

>>719606832
Just grunts having funny voice lines has a completely different vibe than the whole enchilada having speaking roles

They went back to elites speaking in tongues to make them intimidating in reach. There's a reason that works

>>719606878
The prophets knew the truth, they knew everything 343GS had to tell them. They knew that humans were needed to activate the halos, they knew where Earth was, they knew that humans were forerunners and what became of the forerunner civilization. Just because they didn't shove that in your face in 2 like they did in 3 doesn't mean the writing was bad, you were just retarded.

>>719607169
Jesus came to tell the Jews he was their prophesized leader and they told him to fuck off and pretend like they're still waiting. That could've just been the Jews being contrarian as they are wont to be though.

>>719607169
>You mean just like IRL religious nutjobs?

See you think that because something is realistic or has an example in real life that it's now good and preferable to alternatives. I didn't say it was illogical or not true to life. I'm saying it is not cool or interesting

I have no idea what the fuck your last sentence is about so I'm just going to leave it on the shelf

>>719607259
>They went back to elites speaking in tongues to make them intimidating in reach
And Reach sucks just as much as Halo 2 because it tries WAY too fucking hard to be SUPER SRS BSNS since it's trying to be a CoD campaign. The only time Reach's godawful attempt at tone-setting actually works is OBJECTIVE: SURVIVE. The rest of that game is like watching a generic milshit heroic sacrifice factory.

ODST executed the concept of making the enemies actually intimidating again a MILLION times better.

>>719607264
Oh ok why did they want to press the suicide button then. You should play the games

>>719607246
I don't hate CE, I hate 2, it's rushed out development and it's fuckhuge Microsoft funded marketing campaign that attracted the current CODfags that plague the industry today.

>>719598351
no they're not. 1-3 and reach are the only good ones

>>719607169
There’s no “could”, that’s exactly what happened the first time except they eventually killed him.
>Hey guys, you know those prophecies? They’re me here’s some miracles to prove it
>LIAR! SORCERER! THROW HIM OFF THE CLIFF, KILL HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>719607438
Reach is way more open ended than 2, Reach is way better than 2.
2 doesn't know what it wants to be because it was shat out in 8 months

>Microsoft managed to kill both Halo AND Call of Duty
This shit should be illegal

>>719607438
I didn't solicit your entire opinion on reach and halo odst and it doesn't matter either way, but thanks anyway

>>719607524
2 is mostly made for multiplayer

>>719607554
343 killed halo, and the bungie infighting didn't help

>>719607469
Because they were religious freaks who set up their entire culture and political/military systems around the forerunners and the halos. They had nothing else. You should play the games. The dumbed down Truth in H3 tells you "that secret dies with all of the rest."

>>719607472
This

>>719607554
>Certain people were hopeful with MS owning all of these game studios now
>Halo is a shell of its' former self
>CoD is a joke
>Bethesda continues to be Bethesda
>Arkane has been putting out flops
>All of the studios activision owns still stuck in the CoD Mines
>Crash Bandicoot and Spyro are dead again.
>Blizzard continues to be Blizzard
>Pretty much the only studio that is still doing somewhat good is id, and Dark Ages was a step down from Eternal.

>>719607514
>Jews withness the ten plagues in Egypt
>get led through the parted Red Sea
>led by the pillar of cloud and pillar of fire
>recieve mana and quail frrom heaven
>Moses makes a pit stop at MT Sianai to literally go and physically talk to God himself
>Jews are worship the golden calf within 40 days
Are Jews the biggest retards in history? Literally fucking HOW could you be this stupid?

>>719607554
Good, this is why everyone wanted them to buy Activision.
Their management is fucking terrible and their executives are all terrible sociopathic nepobabies that fail upwards.

Let them die

>>719607571
Pretty much, the campaign is just terrible gameplay and atmosphere are completely lacking from CE and even the art design pales in comparison.

>>719607209
I'm not, I don't believe in a god of any sort. Just saying for the sake of the analogy. You could make the same argument for any other religion. Allah could tell the retards in the middle east to stop blowing everybody up and they'll tell him to fuck off.

The Covenant are a faction of religious nutjobs. Also like >>719607264 said the Prophets knew the truth, they just didn't want to believe it because it would completely destroy their power structure and cause their religion to collapse.

>>719607362
>>719607514
true

>>719607390
>See you think that because something is realistic or has an example in real life that it's now good and preferable to alternatives. I didn't say it was illogical or not true to life. I'm saying it is not cool or interesting
The problem is you've failed to explain why you think it's not cool or interesting to have a faction of aliens literally called the Covenant be modeled after our IRL religions.

>I have no idea what the fuck your last sentence is about so I'm just going to leave it on the shelf
You act like it's illogical for religious fanatics to ignore facts that are presented to them, when it's literally the case IRL

>>719607708
I was hopeful because I want all these shit studios dead and their faggot shit eating fans in tears.

Fuck AAA, burn it all baby!

>>719607615
No, he's right, every time a dev got creative, Microsoft suits would come in and kill it. Look at Halo 2 and 4, both pushed for the same exact thing, a Hollywood Blockbuster. That notion that games should be this is why Capcom didn't give Microsoft Resident Evil 4 until the Xbox 360. Halo 2 was meant to be a proper sequel to Halo CE while Halo 4 originally was going to build off what Halo CE did. All of this was dropped for a blockbuster movie push. Microsoft is cancer to anything. They even somehow managed to ruin the ROG Ally with their shitty new Xbox full screen experience.

>>719598351
Yes. Except for 4, 5, and Infinite. All of Bungie's games were excellent and the series ends at Reach. Pay no attention to Microsoft and 343's awful cash grabs that came after Bungie left.

>>719607624
What is your point? What conversation are you trying to have? I said they're retarded because guilty spark tells them that activation will suicide them all and they do it anyway. And you're explaining the cause and effect of how that works, something about they're retarded because they are retarded, and they're still retarded. You don't even seem to disagree with me you just got mad about something.

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I'm still baffled by Paramount's Jimmy Ring's existence.

>>719607843
2 sucked, ODST was supposed to be DLC and is barren and Reach is good but not even Halo.
Fucking sick of this revisionist bullshit from fanboy fuckwits.

>>719607945
I think we all are, honestly.

>>719607960
Must suck to be as miserable as you.

>>719607945
>Make Halo series
>Master Chief never wears his helmet
>constant disobeying orders
>strong human womyn in the Covenant
?????????????????????????????????????

>>719607945
Does this fucker ever wear his helmet?

>>719607960
None of that is true. 2 is great, ODST being DLC doesn't detract at all from it being a great game, and Reach is great and definitely Halo. Dumb 343 tranny.

>>719598351
Played H2 a couple of years ago since it had been so long, not really expecting to enjoy it. Took a few levels to get in to it but man I actually had a blast. All I could think about was how awesome it would have been to play this with mates when it came out (I'm a h3 babby)

>>719608019
Nope, Gaylo isn't my favorite franchise and I don't get to see it raped everyday by Microshaft.
I feel great!

>>719607725
Oh right, the funny. The Covenant in denial about Humanity being the figurative "son of god", and in denial try to wipe them out. Well its more like, if the rest of the covenant learned about humans=you know what, then it would undermine the whole organization and the power the prophets held.

>>719608040
I honestly think he has more screentime helmetless than he does not

>>719607960
All of the bungie campaigns were fantastic. Multiplayer secondaries are not permitted opinions

>>719607945
The reason for the "silver timeline" (God what a fucking retarded way to say we don't give a fuck about lore) flood spreading out of containment is so fucking stupid.

>>719608048
2 is trash compared to every other Bungie title.
ODST is Halo 3 but worse and Reach is great but not Halo, it's a gritty military SciFi shooter, not a Space Action Adventure game.

>>719607781
>The problem is you've failed to explain why you think it's not cool or interesting to have a faction of aliens literally called the Covenant be modeled after our IRL religions.

Sorry I let you conflate two different things here.

I think they are too retarded to be good villains. They also don't have anything cool or interesting going on to even start to offset the retardation even if that were possible. And relating to how religious nutjobs exist in real life and are a problem for us in real life doesn't make them or interesting in the game how it is, I don't mean in principle. Obviously religious villains with folly can be good interesting if done differently, you can start by turning the retard down on them to the point that they aren't completely unintimidating.

>>719608202
>Playing Gaylo Multiplayer
I was playing heavily modded UT 2004 while you were waiting in a matchmaking queue faggot.

>>719607781
>You act like it's illogical for religious fanatics to ignore facts that are presented to them, when it's literally the case IRL

Weird because I explicitly told you it wasn't illogical. You're just not even reading the second sentence anymore

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What was his problem?

>>719607945
My only exposure to this garbage were webm's and screenshots that got posted here after every new episode and I still cringe remembering half of them. It seemed genuinely unwatchable.

>>719608318
>he missed out on peak online for mid gay shit

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>>719608080
>Nope, Gaylo
And stopped reading here, figured as much that you were nothing but a shitposter. Have a nice night lil' buddy, I will continue playing Reach and enjoying it as much as I did all of the previous games.

>Using Human rationale to try to understand how Ayys think
See? This is how Halo 2 ruined the Covenant.

WTB 50

>>719608398
There are certain pieces of logic that would theoretically be universal regardless of species if they achieve sentience.

>>719607891
No my big point is the prophets weren't retarded. My big point is that you are the retard. That is exactly how those organizations work out, that is the fucked up logic they use. That's why mass suicide is a very realistic end for a collapsing cult, that's why drinking the kool-aid is a fucking expression. There doesn't need to be deeper meaning to that, and you trying to insist there should be doesn't make you look more logical or sophisticated.

>>719608318
That was a fun game too. I played both. Why didn't you? And why are you here if you hate Halo so much?

>>719608357
>mid
Zoomeroid, UT2004 shat all over your pathetic wannabe PC game in console.

>>719608394
>Shitposter
>For having a different opinion from the faggot masses that worship this poorly managed anally gaped franchise by Microsoft
I love CE and like Reach, you're just butthurt I don't lick Bungies taint.

>>719608481
Yeah, and God looks like a human being amirite?
Fucking retard

>>719608648
Halo multiplayer is trash

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>>719607945
>Not understanding the series
>In one simple image

I fucking hate modern writers. Every single one of them.

Reach is worth playing and has a few cool moments, ignore any lore fags
343 should have continued with side stories like ODST and Reach, Chief had a perfect ending in 3

>>719608729
But dude the actor has to be RECOGNIZED for his incredible acting in the role, otherwise he has no reason to even try. It's the same difference between Stallone demanding to take off the Dredd helmet and Karl Urban fucking nailing the character.

>>719608318
>unreal slop
Grim. Real anons played tribes

>>719607469
>>719607624
Truth, while still drinking the Covenant Kool-Aid, did seem to have figured out that Halos would actually wipe out all life, his plan seemed to be

>get to the Ark with his fleet of loyalists, fuck the other prophets
>activate Halo array
>all enemies are now dead
>re-seed the galaxy with you as their supreme leader

The rest of the Prophets seemed to genuinely believe they'd just ascend to godhood like their religion preached. Which is probably why Truth was so quick to dispatch of them at the soonest opportunity he saw. Obviously he did it also so he could become the supreme ruler of the remaining Covenant, but still.

>>719608717
In the case of the covenant their gods would look like humans yes and this fact is one of the major underpinnings for the whole setting

>>719608823
As much as I get why it was stupid as fuck to make Dredd take off his helmet with the Stallone version, it was also the campier one I can enjoy for remembering that 2000AD also has dumb shit like Walter the Wobot or the Fatties in it as well as more serious stories like America. Of course, Stallone was a known entity and people really would've seen the movie purely based off his charisma on screen. I don't know who the fuck John Halo man is and don't care.

>>719608779
That's what Bungie wanted but
>Expecting Microshit to ever let that happen
lol
Short term profits > Growing a Multi Million Dollar franchise into a Multi Billion Dolllar one.

>>719608571
Play the games retard. Mass suicides happen because the jig is up and the cult leader won't get free acolyte pussy anymore and will go to prison. The last prophet thought he would become a god after being told by a perfectly reliable source over and over that it would just kill everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTalHvE5vSg

If you watch this clip and don't change your mind, you are just as retarded as the prophets ignoring guilty spark and it will create perfect circle of irony between the real world and fiction.

>>719608898
Vengeance wasn't that good

>>719608949
Applying human logic to an alien with a completely different set of organs is fucking retarded, it's retarded when animal crazies do it, much moreso with an alien.

>>719608973
Well didn't Bungie want out after 3 but they had a contract, so they did ODST and Reach since they (smartly) knew that Chief's story shouldn't be touched

>>719608935
There is more hierarch lore that isn't in the original games. They used to be a warrior race like the elites, but something something their home planet was unstable and exploded. They were forced to make the forerunner dreadnought ship that was on their planet into their new and only home, they used forerunner technology to force other races into the covenant with them at the top, and the low gravity and lazy lifestyles disfigured them into weaklings.
The hierarchs lost their homeworld, lost most of the covenant in the great schism, lost their new home high charity to the flood, and lost their physical health along the way. They had nothing, and learning the truth only made Truth want to take down everyone else with him.

>>719608935
I think this is just a rationalization because of how incongruent it is for the most ruthless main character to just blatantly ignore information from guilty spark, so you expect him to be playing dumb with an ulterior motive, but I don't recall any evidence for this. This is what I remember >>719608986

it also makes sense for turth to kill the other prophets if he thinks the facilities will make him god, so he's the only god.

>>719608986
see >>719609194
Imagine getting filtered by the dumbed down H3 Truth.

>>719598684
heroic is the way its meant to be play

>>719599858
Infinite had the best MP by far

>>719609296
Legendary is perfectly fine on CE and mostly fine on 3. It's only 2 and Reach that make it cancer.

>>719605860
smgs are OK against flood (if you have literally nothing else)

>>719609114
Yes

>>719609348
Difference being that Reach is an actual fun game even outside Legendary, unlike Reach.

>>719609447
>Reach is an actual fun game even outside Legendary, unlike Reach.
I know what you're trying to say, but lol

>>719606331
>None exist at the beginning of Uprising
that's deliberate game design, to force a challenge by limiting your tools. i mean yeah damage sponges suck but it's just for a short section

>>719609447
*unlike 2

>>719609491
For what fucking reason?
It's not fun and I already have the whole weapon sandbox.

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>reason numer 1 why I like reach

>CE
All weapons are good and viable in their own way. Game isn’t afraid to give you a shitload of fun power weapons. Best aesthetic for the UNSC.
Game is actually stupidly short, crusty, and just clearly unfinished. Tight combat and encounter design and the brevity makes the backtracking passable but it’s hard to overlook how much content gets reused. Unfinished due to time constraints.

>2
Sovl incarnate. Looks amazing. Dialogue is peak. Set design, sounds and aesthetics for the covenant were simply never topped.
Kind of plays worse with how long and drawn out a lot of the scripting gets design wise, really hard by comparison and often times not in a fun way, just a brutal checkpoint system and little in the way of safety nets. Unfinished due to time constraints.

>3
Best music. Best weapon balance and variety even if some weapons are objectively bad and all but unusable, this is peak Halo MP. Very fun campaign that meets a lot of sweet spots CE and 2 didn’t.
Story kind of sucks if you think about it, so just don’t. Brutes just aren’t as fun to fight as Elites. Has the worst level in the series made by Bungie. Despite having the fewest complaints I actually prefer both CE and 2 over 3 because while 3 is solid the whole way through, except that one level, for their lower lows the first two have higher highs.

>ODST
It’s fine. It’s just 3 but different. Firefight is cool.

>Reach
Honestly? I love it, but it’s very unsatisfying. I can’t put my finger on exactly why. Perhaps because it has the most peaks of the series, but a whole lot of the game is also just boring and slow. It kind of fails to capture the scale, the scope, you’re in the middle of a covenant invasion of a forge world yet so often you’re just alone and there’s a cognitive dissonance in effect here.

>>719607945
Uh pretty simple 343i hates Halo and wanted to poison every facet of the IP. Imagine their embarrassment if someone made a good Halo TV show without their involvement, now that will never happen.

>>719609296
>>719598684
2 in Heroic went from fun but challenging to CBT halfway through.

All the OG Halo games were amazing; every single one of them was an absolute blast to play.

>>719609194
Interesting, is this Bungie era lore or 343 era? I read some of the Bungie era books back in the day but it's been forever

>>719609247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SaxEThl1so

>Johnson: What's the matter, big shot? Can't start your own party?
>Truth: I admit, I need your help, but that secret dies with all the rest.

https://youtu.be/1nqk3MmIRFw?t=150

>I opened the portal to this hallowed place, this shelter from Halo's fire, in the hopes that more of our Covenant would follow. Alas, save for a rabble of Heretics and their Demon allies, we are all that made the passage. And thus, we must temper joy with sorrow. Keep in our hearts those left behind.

To me this comes across as Truth in H3 seeming to have some level of understanding of Halo's true intention and was already hard at work manipulating his loyal fleet.

>>719598351
>this game is actually fun
how can you play it without nostalgia goggles and think it's good?
Hide behind cover to get health back then trek back through all the levels backwards in big empty fucking planes and you only hold two weapons both of which always suck fuck you

do I have to buy the entire master chief collection or can I just buy one of the games how does that work on steam

>>719598351
1 2 and 3 yes.
Everything else is shite.

>>719610660
MCC regularly goes on sale for $10.

>>719609752
I assume you're talking about Cortana in H3? It's got problems but it's not nearly as bad as Library IMO.

>>719609348
Back on 360I finished every level on h3 on legendary with no issue except cortana. And once I was already at the part when shit starts exploding I got a checkpoint 0.5 seconds before a flying wall panel hits me and kills me. I was so fucking mad I gave that shit up rather than playing again from the beginning.

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Is there a mod that makes the AR in 3 like the one in CE?

>>719610660
You can buy individual games and you can check/uncheck them here in your library if you just want some installed

>>719610660
MCC on steam allows you to install specific games

>>719610660
Gotta get the whole thing. Buying the MCC gives you access to Halo CE, 2, 3, ODST, Reach & 4 as DLC, letting you pick and choose which ones you want to download and play. Like >>719610809 said, it goes on sale for $10 very often.

ODST legendary was the worst halo experience of my life

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>Gigantic flagship franchise that made the xbox console what it is, and influenced the fps genre as a whole
>Given the keys to this kingdom, promised to take care of it
>Fuck it up immediately with Halo 4, where the story legitimately does not make sense and introduced a ton of concepts that directly conflict with old well-established lore
>Fuck it up even more with Halo 5, introducing even more contradictions and creating convoluted reasons to why Chief's old team is even alive
>Fuck it up again with Halo Infinite...
I don't understand how a studio can be given so many chances and not be shot to death by executives. I will also say that the story Halo Wars was good since Bungie had a direct hand in designing things carefully. Halo Wars 2 is also completely nonsense actual capeshit that introduces an entire other faction of red Covenant.

>>719610836
Library is fun, frankly. Cortana is way worse unless you use speedrun strats. Doesn’t help that the Flood in 3 is honestly less fun than the Flood in CE. Pure forms were a mistake.

>>719611676
>influenced the fps genre as a whole
Only on consoles. It was just a well-made arena shooter that got the console experience right. Like arena shooters on PC, it was destined to lose popularity once competition took up other niches.
>Fuck it up immediately with Halo 4
Bungie actually began fucking it up with Reach. In the same argument of arena shooters losing relevancy, Bungie tried mixing things up and copying other. Class loadouts, armor abilities, weapon bloom, more hitscan etc. Balance updates that removed the bloom but kept the hitscan did not help. It would have worked a lot better with true neutral starts and armor abilities being powerups that spawned on the map, like how OS/camo worked in 3.
>Halo Wars was good since Bungie had a direct hand in designing things carefully
Lol. Bungie fucking hated Microsoft for pimping out "their" IP to another studio, even though by that time they already planned on leaving. Bungie actively refused to help with the game. The story had to be totally isolated from the main games and was really bland as a result, but Ensemble did a great job with all of these issues.
Similarly Bungie hated all of extraverse books and refused to acknowledge their lore. One joke in Halo 2 about how Johnson survived CE's ending was a jab at First Strike. However that was honestly a good decision to keep the games' story tight and accessible. 343 did the complete opposite and shilled the books as hard as possible, even though 95% of players didn't know or care about them.

>>719611676
Destiny wasn't any better on the story front, unfortunately. Whatever magic they captured with 1-3 has seemingly evaporated.

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>>719598351
People used to be banned for making shit threads like this.
Kill yourself OP.

>>719611676
>creating convoluted reasons to why Chief's old team is even alive
What? They were never killed off in the old story, only separated. The only convoluted part is how they conveniently got back together.

>>719598351
>Halo 2
It's also fun but it has some retarded bullshit like jackal snipers and shitty bosses.
>Halo 3
Fun but its mostly just cool setpieces and the ending is kinda rushed.
>Halo: Reach
Solid but it's mostly a rehash of old ideas and the cast is gay and lame.
>Haven't played the rest.

>>719612634
Anon, it's time to let go of the past.

It bums me out that /v/ doesn't host firefight or anything anymore, I remember playing a couple matches with some randoms here years ago, it was well long after ODST dropped but it was still fun as hell to just fuck around on that one skyscraper map.

>>719598351
It aged really well too. As a kid I jumped straight in to 2 and never actually played CE. When MCC came out on steam I picked it up and it's better than a large number of single player FPS out right now.

>>719598429
I miss the fuck out of midnight launches

>No pressure to be first in line since shit was pre-ordered
>friends all pulled up, blasted austrian death machine, drank and smoked in the parking lot and hung out with other nerds
>midnight hits
>chill for just long enough that the line has teetered out
>get game
>get burgers/snacks
>tear up whoevers house is closest and crash there until noon

>>719607708
cod has been a joke since BOCW
MW19 was the last decent one

>>719598351
Sadly, no.
CE is the only good game. In 2 and onward they killed the pistol.

>>719610841
cortana gave me issues on the room before the main reactor room. you had to spiral up this tall chamber and i was out of ammo. there were a bunch of equipment pickups that you could throw down to block the flood from assraping you and that's the only way i was able to get through that part, had no issues afterwards

>>719598351
Spooky I just finished replaying it today myself. I fucking love the sandbox of CE so much more than the rest of the series. And holy fuck the plasma pistol is OP as shit even without the vehicle emp

>>719614924
>Muh pistol
Litmus test time. Plasma or Magnum?

>>719615580
If opponent have overshield you go plasma otherwise the regular. If we're talking CE.

>>719614924
They killed every duel wield weapon, but yes that includes the pistol.

>oddball on wizard
>nade spam on longest
>1v1s on rat race
>slayer on hang em high
>ctf on rat race
>fuel rod boosting to impossible locations on danger canyon
TAKE ME BACK

>>719616281
>rocket CTF on that teleporter map

>>719616514
boarding action?

>>719616514
>>719616557
Oh, wait, Chiron?
Could never learn the layot of that map.

>>719613606
That sounds like fun, better miss those times than never happening to you

>>719616609
yeah
such a stupid clusterfuck of a map but it was fun.
if forge wasn't so difficult to learn now i'd try remaking it

Reminder Oni was killed in favor of gaylo

>>719598351
no
it goes
good
bad
good
bad
good
and then the series is dead.

>>719610219
maybe on the og but in mcc with unlimited fps and mouse and keyboard its much easier.

>>719599065
>when I was 10
AYO THIS NIGGA WAS BORN IN 2002!

>>719606037
>2 wrote the series into irreversible mistakes
It's more that Halo 3's writing room was a complete disaster because half the team responsible for 2 weren't available for 3. It's why there's such massive tonal shifts in characters like Truth who becomes a bumbling idiot, after 2 set him up as seemingly knowing the Great Journey was all bullshit and he just wanted power. Hence why he willingly met Mercy die.

>>719599858
Meant to say 5 Kek I’m scrolling down now and assume that anon will be PISSED.

>>719616847
Gaylo killed the proper Marathon reboot for the shit we ended up with today.

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For me it was Sidewinder. I don't understand why Blood Gulch got all the popularity.

>>719598351
I don't get Halo's campaign. Played Reach first, then Infinite, now I'm going through 1. The gunplay is cool, sure, but that's it. Do you need a friend to really enjoy them?

>>719618683
probably red vs blue

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>The Library
good level or no?

>>719618683
>ignore the middle
>sniper duels up top

>>719620246
It drags on too long

>>719620246
No, I get it but it ain't making me entertained.

>>719620246
The library on legendary is probably some of the most fun I've had with a halo campaign mission
It nails the feeling of an endless onslaught against insane odds

>>719620246
I hated it back in 2001.
I appreciated it (even enjoyed it) 20 years later.

>>719618683
Sidewinder was my absolute favorite, too. I loved the atmosphere it had. I was really upset when it wasn't brought back ever again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQxcV48pa5A

>>719609594
Am I the only one that plays Noble Six as a girl, the team feels more balanced with two female spartans compared to only having Kat.

What is the best way to play CO-OP Halo 1, 2, and 3 on a PC?

Why are Sangheili _men_ so hot?

>>719621532
That would surely be the Master Chief Collection.

Reach is the worst Halo game by far. 4 is better in every single way.

Reach had:
- armor lock
- introduced loadouts (the whole game is badly attempting to suck off Infinity Ward yet somehow 4 gets all the blame for the CoDification, most of which was patched out or irrelevant)
- a pathetic amount of launch maps and not much DLC either
- most maps only have one primary color
- the disgustingly overpowered DMR
- worthless automatics (4’s ARs are far stronger and more satisfying)
- downright pretentious and bland aesthetics
- the campaign consists mostly of empty space for no reason, and first-person cutscenes that fade to black when switching to gameplay because they don’t have the tech to actually integrate them
- HALF THE MATCHMAKING IS FUCKING FORGE WORLD MAPS BECAUSE THERE’S NO CONTENT

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Is there any way to increase the viewmodels on pirated copies? Apparently you can in gameplay settings but I guess none of the uploads are up to date enough?

>>719617017
I at least partially blame Marty for Halo 3's story. Johnson and Miranda's death scenes are both forced, long, and shit. I liked Johnson through the entire trilogy but I feel fucking nothing when I watch his death scene. It sucks. They're only there because someone handed Marty the script and he said it needed more character deaths.

Also whoever greenlit the Cortana and Gravemind moments owes me hours of my life back for making watching those over and over.

>>719618683
>I don't understand why Blood Gulch got all the popularity.
because snow and ice and cold and grey dull colors make people more depressed than everything blood gulch has

>>719620246
zombies bad
flood are the best zombies
i dont like zombies
therefore i dont like the flood
any level that has flood is bad
thats why reach is goated

remove the flood from all other halo games and replace it with more story development and they become better games

>>719598351
slop for american dudebros that don't know what a pc is

>>719620246
It will forever be Halo's "that level", but I think that Assault on the Control Room is worse because it drags on forever with iirc 4 instances of copy pasted areas if you don't know about the skips.

>>719627768
I think AOTCR is worse because the first quarter of the level doesn't have a single health pack.

Legendary is an interesting challenge but always killed the fun out of Halo for me. You feel much more like a vulnerable marine than Master Chief.

>>719607945
How the fuck does something so unanimously hated get a second season?

>>719629375
It was already contracted before airing.

>>719598684
I love you.

>>719608036
It was supposed to be a Mass Effect TV show that got a Halo skin following Paramount's retardation, Wolfkill is also to blame

>>719608351
It's twice as worse than you can imagine. The entire CE premise of the halo ring killing everything in a means to starve off the flood was explained by a nigger slave that the covies didn't kill for some reason? Despite them thinking humanity were lower than insects. They spoke english for some reason as well? And he overheard them explain what the halo ring was for, retelling everything for MC who paid a visit to an asylum on Reach. It's omega retarded bro

>>719608823
Pablo Schreiber's agent definitely had a push for this to justify making his face known to people, if the show popped off and his face was covered all the time, then he wouldn't be doing a proper job. I fucking hate hollywood and the games industry

>>719620246
Conceptually, it was a home run of an idea for a Bungie that was crunched and had to deal with a really shitty deadline. If they had more time to make an actual level, it would've been more thought out and polished than just the same corridors that make you walk around in circles for an hour

>>719620246
it's really good but it drags on too long. Its a skill check level because there are only like 3~4 weapons that are effective against the fllod. It challenges your spacial awareness and how to shoot and scoot and not get overwhelmed or get blown up. It's fun on legendary too, because while legenedary difficulty always has some bullshit to it, that level is reasonably fair.

>>719598684
This, dont fucking touch any 343 garbage