Is the death of physical games really that bad? It seems to me that some people are overly concerned with the idea of "ownership" even if it offers little practical benefit. The fear of losing access to your digital libraries feels overblown. Is it more of a sentimental thing?
>>719600586wow that guy looks like a faggot
>>719600756You mean the guy in the image or OP?
>>719600586It's more having the thing. You can hold it, you can smell it, you can put your memories into itWhy do you think things stolen are sold or thrown away? A piece of you is in them and it's uncomfortable to keep them if they aren't yours. YOU putting the effort to get them. YOU put in the work to earn them. Not some faggot theif that did nothing
nigga I have sold (some) of my old systems and games every console generation. I have bought so many fucking used games I can't count them. normies may be ok with being sheep that don't own anything but I'm not. there's enough old games now that I will never run out of new old things to play, I don't need modern slop.
>>719600887Since time immemorial
>>719601725SINCE ANCIENT DAYS!!!
>>719600586I don't like Nintendo's attitude towards physical media or piracy.
>>719601150I rarely sell my games, but sure, that is a tangible benefit of physical. Though you can also do that with physical license keys.
>>719600586Why did Sony never get similar push back and criticism over releasing digital only consoles with not disk drive?
>>719600586It’s an orchestrated attack on used games/resale.Are you this cunty retarded?
>>719605368I think it's more than games companies don't want to pay for expensive cartridges. You can still resell the key cards. Nintendo is still putting their games actually on the cart.
>>719600586If i cant buy a physical copy to play on my offline console, then i will just pirate everything. Physical copies are literally the only reason any company still gets money from me, because its more convenient to play my vidya box offline without internet bullshit. Take that away, and I leave the ecosystem of supporting whats left of this shit industry.
>>719604345Because there is always a disc optionEven the new PS5 has a disc option, even if it's via an overpriced, separately-sold peripheralWith Nintendo, you don't get a choice. If you want a physical copy of most Switch 2 games, you will need to downgrade to the Switch 1 version... if the game even released there in the first place.
>>719607743But the vast majority of games are not released physically, especially not for PS5 or Xbox Series, and don't even get me started on PC. Physical PC games are an actual novelty, the publisher trying to be funny and pulling off a marketing stunt and releasing a physical collectible.I don't even know why you would buy a Switch 2 version if there's a Switch 1 version available. The box art is worse for Switch 2 Editions, you pay more upfront, and I don't know for sure about this, but if you still have an original Switch, the S2E cartridge might not be compatible with it (don't quote me on that, it probably still is backwards compatible).It just makes more sense to buy Prime 4 on the Switch with the better box art and buy the digital upgrade if you want it. You're still paying the same price, but you get a better box and guaranteed compatibility on your old hardware if you want to share it. And maybe you decide that you're fine with playing Prime 4 without the upgrade so you don't pay the $10 or whatever. Why lock yourself into buying a physical Switch 2 Edition, that's retarded
>>719600586>It seems to me that some people are overly concerned with the idea of "ownership" even if it offers little practical benefit.>even if it offers little practical benefit.Yeah, is there a practical reason to play whatever I've bought whenever I want to?
>>719608324You can do this with digital though>b-but what about in 40 years when the steam servers shut down!Not a realistic concern.
Did something happen or is this another Snoytranny "it's Nintendo's fault devs are jewish!" psyop?
>>719608457What if the publishers take it away? What if the terms and conditions of your digital licence change? What if your internet is down so now your always online DRM blocks you from playing?There are reasons to not trust digital libraries and game publishers trying to steer into digital only sucks. We should always have the option of both.
>>719600586if I can't get physical games then I'll revert back to piracy fuck you dude
>>719600586>The fear of losing access to your digital libraries feels overblownIt's only feels overblown because piracy and backups to download most games exist. Unfortunately, DRM shit like Denuvo is being promoted at least for the mainstream titles.Ninty and Snoy stuff needs to be cracked and pirated, no exception.
>>719600586yes very bad you should know -that without physical game there is no use game market, so the price will never or rarely go down.-game can be remove from the digital shop for no reason. that mean there will be game that if you wait too much you cannot buy it like pt demo and there are many other exemple-it will kill the fun to buy retro game in the future which is our current game. futur gaming convention will be empty.- a lot of game will be destroy when they shut down the server like super mario 35- if you want to play and even buy a game in digital store you may be force to be their bitch like you cannot says a bad word and dont forget that the switch 2 have a micro build in- sell or share a digital game is ways more complicate or even impossible- you have to give your credit card number to buy a digital game and I know that gaming compagnie are getting hack easily
>>719608568It's one of those "Switch 2 having digital games has killed physical games forever" console war argumentsIgnoring that>PlayStation 5 Digital Edition>PlayStation 5 Slim Digital Edition>PlayStation 5 Pro>Xbox Series Sdon't come with disc drives at all, you have to buy a disc drive accessory, and PC games are pretty much universally digital-only. Every Switch 2 reads cartridges, every Switch did as well. But people are upset about game key cards. It's not the death of physical. It's another notch, but most of that tree was chopped down before by everyone else along with the prevalence of on-demand streaming models like Netflix changing how people expect media, which is what Game Pass and PS Plus being subscription services capitalize on. NSO is similar, but people have asked for a way to outright buy older games ala the Virtual Console from 2006-2017.
>>719609543ESL moment, go back to work saaar
>>719608728There will always be work arounds. In practice, publishers taking games away is rare, and steam lets you redownload these anyway. Always on DRM is retarded, true. I agree that physical SHOULD be an option, but I find the fearmongering around losing access to digital games more of a hypothetical, principled thing, than a practical concern. >>719609249>It's only feels overblown because piracy and backups to download most games exist.That's part of it, but I'm not worried about steam/micosoft/sony/nintendo going under any time soon.
>>719600756happy console gamer is so cringe that he wraps around and is actually giga based
>>719600586>death of physical gamesWhere?I download any amount of digital software.I remove DRM from it.I store it on a physical storage medium that I fully own.It is now physically owned by me. It seems that it didn't go anywhere, and you're not sad about death of "physical ownership", you are sad about not having a retail box with corporate logos lmfao.
>>719609895I hope you have backups.
>>719609543Yes, this has been a problem since digital games were a thing. Those Flash games you played as a kid weren't released on any official media, and a lot of them have been lost to time. Physical exists because>Physical storefronts were better for promoting and selling software>The early internet existed for universities and research institutions and was not available to the general public until the early 90s>Storage space was incredibly scarce>The online infrastructure for software distribution was incredibly primitive until the early/mid-00s>Consoles, the primary way people played professionally-made games, were mostly offline until the mid-00s, though attempts to get them connected had existed as far back as the late 80sBut games exist digitally first. The software exists before it's put onto a physical medium. Not everything gets turned into physical media. Is that bad for preservation? Yes, but so much digital material is just gone forever. Not everything can be backed up in every state it was ever in, just like you can't go back to any specific point in your life and have everything you did at that point.
>>719600586>overly concerned with the idea of "ownership"kys
>>719600586Buy on GOG, burn to DVD or put on flash drive.
>>719608154share it with who? a switch 1 owner?retard
>>719609895There are arguments to be made that the physical assets that come with the software are part of preservation. If your game comes with a thick manual filled with interesting content and art, is that not something to be considered part of the purchase? I think the focus on just preserving software is shortsighted. I want the original Photoshop assets saved, all the art assets, how to reproduce the box and everything that comes in it. But you'd need to actually pull that stuff from company servers.
>>719610824Yeah, because Prime 4 is a Switch 1 game, retard. If the Switch 2 Edition only lets you play it on a Switch 2, you are giving up backwards compatibility and the option to resell it to Switch 1 owners (once again, I don't know if S2Es are playable in cartridge form in their regular Switch 1 mode on a Switch 1) just so you can get worse box art that's half warning text and logos. Why wouldn't you just buy the Switch 1 version and get the S2E update digitally? It's literally the equivalent of buying DLC separately for a physical product.
Kek at the over confident Steam drones in this thread.Steam is dying way faster than you think. Gen Alpha uses Epic more than steam because of Fortnite and free games. When Gaben officially steps down Steam will never recover and lose users slowly forever.
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>>719611242Case says it contains the 'Nintendo Switch Game' - so I'd assume the cart plays just fine on switch 1?
>>719611487Read my comment nigger. When Gaben steps down.
>>719610484>Buy on GOG
>>719611242neither is backwards compatible, you retardim sure resale prices are going to be great when buyers need to factor in buying an upgrade (that will bite them in the ass too if they sell it)you are buying a lastgen release for full MSRP, still paying for a digital key, and don't even have the ability to share your digital copy with a friend
>>719611623It's good to support competition to Steam, and GOG is the best.
I must not be a schizo nigger but I am 100% fine with my games being digital.
>>719611570Okay, so it doesn't have the downside of not having backwards compatibility. I still think the S2E box art is ruined by all the text and the logo size, and chances are there are people like me who think that a Switch 2 Edition wouldn't be compatible with their regular Switch. I don't see any point in getting the S2E over the original. Is it simply because one has an update included on the cart?
I don’t really care about physical media unless it’s something substantial like a cartridge based format for a retro console. I just download new games digitally (even on consoles) because I don’t really feel anything for disc based formats and I want the convenience. I also really don’t like collector editions of games with a bunch of useless junk for $200.When the day comes I’ll just mod theconsoles and download roms or I’ll just emulate them. I don’t care about the money I spent on the digital games while I used them they’re just software and we all turn to ash one day.
>>719611856By the looks of it the update is not even on the cart. It just comes with picrel inside. So no, there isn't any point to buying the physical S2E.
>>719600586>Is the death of physical games really that bad?Ask PC faggots. Klaus (the Jew) Schwab have been fucking them in the ass for over a decade and they love it.
>>719600586Due to internet data limits, I simply can't play any games over 50GB in size if they don't have a physical release. I also like to play games years after release. Game key cards which stop working when Nintendo inevitably kills the Switch online servers in ten years would stop me from playing Switch games.
i bought death stranding 2, beat it in a week, and then sold it for 60i cant imagine burning 70 dollars + plus tax for a game you have no intention of replaying to rot in a digital library which will be made redundant by a remaster + all DLC included for free in 24 months
>>719611641So why not BUY THE SWITCH 1 VERSION like I'm saying? Also you can share digital games with friends, they have this 2 week loaning thing now. What you are complaining about is not being able to RESELL a digital copy. That was supposed to be what game key cards were a solution for, by giving you a piece of plastic that contains a license to download the game. You can put it in ten Switch 2s and download the game on each one, but the cartridge functions as a key so only the person with the cartridge can play the game. That's the closet thing to reselling a digital game, but it comes with the caveat of not having the same convenience of easily selecting any game from a menu at any time.
If I can't touch something then I won't pay for itI won't pay for virtual game or movie, I will pirate it
>>719612237i'll be playing it on yuzu a week before release because every other option is cucked
>>719612113NTA but the upgrade actually does come in the cartridge, the game just doesn't load it when put inside the Switch 1. If you get the digital upgrades you can enable and disable them by removing the virtual game card, so it's basically doing that with the hardware. Think of it like a Link's Awakening DX situation. Best video I can find to showcase it, wish it wasn't a short but not many people have even tried it. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Zs-dALEl2PE?feature=share
>>719612168I don't buy slop, so that's a non-issue
>>719612415Thank you, I stand corrected.
>>719609617They don't have to go under to shut down their console's servers. Nintendo routinely shuts down the online services for their old consoles when they want people to move to the new ones. They did it to the Wii, Wii U, DSi, and 3DS. They'll do it to the Switch at some point too.Microsoft shut down the live service for the original Xbox in 2010, and shut down the Xbox 360 store last year. Sony killed the PS2's online service, killed the PSP's store years ago, and the PS3 network also appears to be perpetually on death's door with how Sony just barely keeps it functional, so it could die any day now. These key cards, along with all your digital libraries will become unavailable eventually, and its entirely up to the people hostiing the servers when that happens.
>>719612393The basic Switch option has literally no downsides, what are you talking about? You were so dead set on the Switch 2 Edition like a retard and didn't even realize there was a basic Switch versionAlso good luck getting performance equal to the Switch 2 on outdated forked builds of Yuzu, you're stuck playing the cucked version
>>719609895It sucks if I want to get a game, and don't have the data or bandwidth to download all 200GB of it.
>>719612631>They did it to the Wii, Wii U, DSi, and 3DSYou can still redownload games you purchased for all of those systems, though they have said they will stop this for DSi at some point.
>>719612779How does that work if you can't connect any of those consoles to their shop anymore?
>>719612907You can still select titles you've downloaded and redownload them. You just can't purchase stuff.
>>719600586>Is the death of physical games really that bad?not at all>It seems to me that some people are overly concerned with the idea of "ownership" even if it offers little practical benefit. don't expect consolecucks to make logical sense>The fear of losing access to your digital libraries feels overblown. it's cope>Is it more of a sentimental thing?the brain chemistry of adult consolekeks needs to be studiedbasically if you are choosing a plastic box and inferior experience over digital and respectable framerate/graphics settings, you are a cuckold.
>>719600586When physical is gone I just won't ever buy another game.
reminder that Stop Killing Games fags are all bugmen, obese cuckolds and nigger lovers
>>719613151reminder that all anti stop killing games fags are pathological contrarians and/or literal paid shills
>>719612972How? You can't connect the Wii to Nintendo's servers at all anymore. That means it can't go online to download anything.
>>719613207>bugmen, obese cuckolds and nigger loversso which are you?
>>719613210NTA, haven't tried it on Wii but if memory serves you basically get a gimped version of the shops that only let you access a "Your Downloads" screen where you can pick the games tied to your account and then download them.
>>719613210anon.... anon you fucking tard...
>>719600586Who cares about physical, emulation is the only true way to preserve gaming.That's why it's hated by griddy corporations like Nintendo or collectionist faggots that think a mint copy of Assassins Creed Shadows will be worth something in 50 years
>>719613421>>719613412I guess I misremembered.Still, that means all the people who didn't buy the games when they were available are locked out of playing them forever, and Nintendo still will eventually shut down those download servers too.
>>719600586Anon, I would like you to go and download your purchased games for 3DS and WiiU stores from the official store.
>>719613675Not OP because he's a faggot, but he can do that though.
>>719613552>griddy corporations
>>719600586>Is the death of physical games really that bad?As long as pirating remains easy and rarely punished and emulation never becomes illegal, no. It only becomes a problem when the corpos get 100% full control and we literally have no options.
>>719613572DS / Wii consoles are easily hackable so whatever, but yes, eventually that will stop too. It's a bit different now with the Nintendo Account system carrying forward to Switch 2. I imagine Nintendo will want to keep that going indefinitely, if possible.
>>719613675We just discussed this, you still can.
>>719614191>I imagine Nintendo will want to keep that going indefinitely, if possible.They could just as easily do like Microsoft did with the 360.
>>719612136I hate that faggot as much as the next guy, but...>Klaus Schwab isn't Jewish. He was raised Catholic.>He never said that. That quote belongs to Ida Auken (a danish woman).Your faggotry isn't helping, my dude.
There are a lot of games that just don't exist now outside of extremely limited physical versions.Sometimes a game gets an "updated" version removing the older one from digital store fronts. Dragon Quest XI on the PC had superior visuals than the console versions but got removed from all digital store fronts in favor of the Switch port with more bloated content, nerfed bosses, and inferior visuals. If you didn't buy the original PC version, the only other option to is buy a physical PS4 version and play it on a PS4 pro or PS5.
>>719600586yes you fucking moron
>>719614386I don't think that's likely. Companies want to keep their existing account systems to make transitions to new hardware as seamless as possible. Consumers have an expectation their digital libraries will carry forward. Modern consoles use x86/ARM so backwards compatibility is easier. The difficulty for Nintendo will come if they stop making Switches.
>>719600586yes you zoomer faggot
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>>719600586Game libraries need to be more than just a mountain of useless plastic.Why do people go to the trouble to care for real plants when perfectly good fakes exist.
>>719614881This is one of the stronger arguments I think. Not being able to buy the original version is lame.
>>719617863The problem with that is that even back before patches, a pretty sizable number of games had v1.1 versions that replaced the typical ones in later shipments and contained bug fixes. Super Mario Bros. 3's North American version got an update several months in, and that became the standard. There are always going to be purists who feel that the original Japanese v1.0 copy of whatever game is the truest form, or whatever the earliest build that was officially released, like the Japanese PC version of Final Fantasy VII. Other people view the final v1.1 and v1.2 versions as the "finished" true versions.
>>719617652 Because fake plants don’t bloom with time, don’t change, don’t decay, and don’t surprise you. They’re static and sterile - just like a digital-only library. Owning something physically, even if it’s “just plastic,” means you control it. It's not on loan, not subject to a server shutdown or some EULA change. It ages, it gets scuffed, it has a history - just like you.Fake plants never die because they were never alive. That’s not a virtue, that’s a feature of something that was dead on arrival.
>>719600586With a full game on disc, even after nuclear holocaust, I can just plug a console or a PC to a generator and keep gaming. But I can't do that if all my games are on an obliterated server somewhere in California
>Anon's playing a manly game that he doesn't physically own>feminist and other groups succesfully shutting down every games they dont like>he can't play the game anymore
>>719619026If that happens we're fucked anyway
>>719600756IT'S OVER...
Consoles are useless on every front and you can't even do basic file managementThey need physical because of how little you control about them
>>719619339OR maybe we aren't. And maybe there comes a time when you really wish you had video games. But you won't. Because you didn't think about it when it actually mattered.
Singular experiences, whether in physical or digital form, will go the way of the dinosaur anyway once we figure out how to leverage the mind to create its own digital experiences.Gaben is already hard at work trying to make this happen.
