>>719601990
Make it 100$ cdn, lol
I'm broke

Back on board? I've always backed the console wars winner, Sony.

>>719601990
>no online requirement
>normal physical copies

Literally all i ask out of a console. I just want a box i can play games with that doesn't require a gay ass internet collection.

>>719601990
Something that either improves how games play, or something that makes their games unique to play.
And when I say improves how games play, I don't mean 60fps over 30fps or 120fps over 60 or whatever the fuck. I mean something that actually affects how the games are played.

If a game like it could be built for the PS5, PS4, PS3, PC, or Switch or whatever. Then what's even the point of the PS6?

>>719601990
$400 at max, has actual games on launch, no more paid online.

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>>719601990
Fire Hulst, i mean literally set fire to him in an execution by immolation and restore Japan Studio to its former glory, returning their headquarters and all business operations to Japan as well.

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>>719602223
This. The value of a console is in physical, offline games. If you remove physical copies and make it an internet box, your console is completely worthless.

I own a 4090 system and a PS5 Pro, and i still struggle to find reasons to play something on the Pro when my 4090 can blow it out of the water.

Until Sony can deliver 4k ray traced at 60fps+, don’t even bother. Literally the PS6 will need the performance of a 4090, minimum - and we are several years away from when that’s feasible for sub-$1000.

Oh, and don’t be afraid to charge $999.95 retail price for the thing if it truly can hit those specs. It’ll sell.

release more than 1 Ratchet and Clank in a generation

At this point, nothing except axe every studio and make playstation japanese again

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pls a good design

How about some games? PS5 is the most barebones console ever released.

>>719601990
Backwards compatiability to at least PS4
No online requirement
<$600
Get ride of Snoy of America and fire anyone involved with pushing dogshit like Horizon, Forspoken, Stepfather of War, and all the rest of that horseshit.
Hall effect sticks in the stock controller model.

>>719601990
I got a external for ps4 games for PS5 and I'm wondering how this thing is not going to explode.

>>719601990
Consoles used to offer a superior gaming experience to PC's at the same price point. I bought an Xbox back in the day because it was $200 and had a GeForce graphics processor. Nowadays consoles are just watered down PCs instead of advanced hardware tailored to run games well. That's what the PS6 would need to be. A $500 machine that has amazing graphical and frame rate capabilities with exclusive games that showcase that hardware. I don't see that happening.

>>719601990
nothing at all

>>719601990
unironically mass fire, remove, distance, relocate from, and abandon anything to do with america outside of marketing/distribution. buy all shares back from American shareholders if needed.

>>719601990
No PlayStation Rental Service (PSRS) to play online, for starters.

dana carvey lookin mf

>>719601990
>Backwards compatible with every earlier generation of PlayStation, still includes an optical drive
>Don't paywall online multiplayer
>Move away from the "cinematic Naughty Dog clone" formula for console exclusives
>More emphasis on mid-budget AA games with a reasonable release schedule instead of bloated expensive AAA slop that takes at-least half a decade to develop
>Make VR compatible with third-party headsets like the Oculus Quest
>No online requirement
>Move SIE back to Japan and fire all the activist leftist cult fags from Cali who have pushed for censorship and woke bullshit

But all of these potential solutions are at-odds with Snoy's cynical strategy they seem to be perfectly fine with doubling down on even after kicking out Jim Ryan so the PS6 is gonna suck no matter what. Normalfag retards are likely still gonna lap it up since they can't be fucked to learn how to build a gaming PC and it has a steeper upfront cost these days.

>>719601990
Nothing, like Xbox, PlayStation is dead to me, I'm Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 going forward.

>>719601990
>PS4 and PS5 backwards compatibility.
>Free online play, like back on ps2 and ps3.
>Physical disc drive in every unit.

So I am out since only the first bullet is happening.

>>719601990
Concord 2
Fairgame$ PS6 edition
The Last of Us Remastered Remastered Remastered

>>719601990
>get you back onboard for the PS6
Free upgrade from my PS3, and bring back the XMB. Also stop charging for basic fucking online functionality.

>>719602297
yeah no paid online would help, i'm not interested in subscriptions to use my own fucking internet

>>719601990
Onahole integration with PSVR and an Official Senran Kagura VR sex game

Come with the entire playstation 1&2 libraries free of charge.

I'd consider buying a Playstation if they used Steam. I dont need Sony's gay evil subscription services but I like their branding I would buy a Playstation to play PC games.

>>719601990
File for bankruptcy

>>719601990
Games

>>719601990
>No more platform censorship
>Fix the shitty controller: good battery life, TMR sticks
>Disk drive included
>Exclusive games that are good
>backwards compatible to PS2, PS3
None of those are going to happen

ps e-store is such garbage to navigate it's reason enough to avoid the console

>>719601990
-Exclusive Japanese video games and FUCKING LOTS OF THEM.
-If they insist on digital distribution they need a refund service ala steam, or at the very least mandatory free playable demos for ALL titles.
-Backwards compatibility and complete libraries available to purchase and play. None of this "oh we can't get the license to that publisher's library so we can't include any of those games" bullshit. They have the money, fucking use it.

>>719601990
get rid of the online service loving nigga
and get based kaz back

>>719601990
I never thought I'd say this but there is a way for them to actually win ne back now. Sony won't do it guaranteed but its the only way.
Become the bastion for ecchi games and full porn games. Swing their big dick around and whip collective shout and Visa and Mastercard and Paypal in the face.
If they were to do this I would instantly buy their console. They won't do this, and I wouldn't trust them to keep it up, but whoever protects porn games will earn my custom.
Otherwise sony will still never see another dime from me for what they did to senran kagura.

>>719601990
Stop requiring PS+ for online play.

>>719601990
They can't. I'm going PC next gen but hypothetically speaking, for starters they'd have to start putting out games in 2-3 years instead of making people wait almost a fucking decade. They'd have to either 1. lower the cost of online subscriptions 2. add a basic tier that's just $5 for online/online storage data OR 3. increase the quality of games offered for PS Plus/Extra because at this rate you aren't getting your money worth. They'd have to also fix their shit UI. It really makes no sense that the PS3/PS4 had better UIs. Bring back themes. Bring back folders. And finally: pricing. They continue to increase the price but yet the quality isn't going up. There is no way in hell I'm paying $600+ just to play PS5 games. I didn't buy a PS5 until 2023 and even then there were still barely any games for the PS5 that wasn't sports titles. And 2 years later, we're still exactly in the same place for the most part. It's a joke.

>>719601990
lol there is no way I'd ever return to Sony. they can take their Tripple shit blm pride months and go fuck themselves

>>719606668
>>719606668
would also want japan studio back
and for them to make amy hennig a head of her own studio give her uncharted buy Legacy of Kain if she wants

>>719601990
Dana Harvey running PS5 would not have been on my bingo card

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>>719601990
Good on Bruce for losing weight.

>>719601990
Make it backwards compatible as far back the PlayStation, and I'll buy one.
If not, then fuck off.

>>719601990
Hot anime bitches.

Dedicated blowjob port. Fast Blu Ray drive so I don't have to install games. Free online multiplayer.

no physical copies/cd drive nonsense, mandatory online subscription, solder the ssd for reliability, $500 pricetag minimum so i know it's valuable, $80 controllers with no removable parts so it feels premium, port remastered games that i've already played on other systems. boom.

>>719601990
>What's Sony got to do to get you back onboard for the PS6?
they can't do anything. being an idort stopped being fun during 7th gen. nowadays all sony does is keep doubling down on gaas garbage. as long as they remain californian they are pointless.

>>719601990
games, stupid

>>719601990
>They stop funding American games, they rebuild Japan Studio and only give money to them
>Console is no more expensive than Switch 2
>Console has actual games and exclusive, and no GaaS shit
>Stop holding non-exclusive games hostage. Fuck that "first on PS" shit, either it's exclusive or not.
>I don't play online, but free PSNetwork
>F2P games are banned from release on PS6
>Actual quality control for the games released on the platform, limit how many games a publisher can release yearly
>Physical games, under $70
>Native backwards compatible with PS1, PS4, PS5 at least. PS2 and PS3 through emulation would be fine, but native if possible.
>The console itself is not a humongous piece of plastic, make it as big as the Xbox Series X at most

That, or a Sony representative can literally suck my dick and beg on their knees so I even care to turn my head in their direction

>>719614231
You'd bankrupt them if given the chance. They don't want you.

>>719614508
It's not my job to keep them afloat, but it's their literal job to give me a product I want to pay for.

Can't give me what I want? Cool, see you

More Japanese games, less woke Californian ones.

>>719615037
Their job is to make money, not win you specifically over especially when your demands are contradictory and nonsensical.

>>719601990
Allow me to transfer saves ...
But you couldn't even let me do that, which meant I had to start all over again with FF7 Rebirth on PC.
Thank god FF7 Part 3 won't be a PS exclusive.

>>719601990
Free PSN, console is $399 or less, disc drive is included, all games come on the disc and don't need an internet connection to download, console doesn't look ugly as shit. It could be a rebranded PS5 hardware wise as long as it does all these things and I'd still be on board.

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>>719601990
i dont give a fuck how im going to sound
>focus on having a diverse lirbary
>cut back on making 1 quadrillion dollar game and instead make 20 10 million dollar games
>play into your strength again, bring back that edge that the original PSX/PS2 had
>hire the guys behind PCSX2 and RPCS3, give them a fat cheque and make it BC with PSX/PS2/PS3
>invest tons of cash into Team Asobi to make it your new Japan Studio
>forget about GaaS shit, that is a lost market
>make online free again
all of this topped with the personal lynching of Herman Hulst and ill buy a PS6

>>719601990
1) Physical games that are playable off the disc with no downloads. You can add stuff later, but the launch version on disc should be playable from start to end with no game-breaking bugs. If you can't do that, allow users to apply signed game patches manually if you download and save them on PC and use a USB stick. No internet required for patching, just a file on a USB stick.
2) $500 price
3) Homebrew allowed
4) Disc-based backward compatibility pack to PS1.

>>719601990
Make video games instead of outdated sociopolitical statements that no one gives a fuck about. Oops, they shutdown their only studios capable of doing that.

>>719601990
An anime ass and tits era.

I hope it's $1500, give it good specs, $1500 over 8 years is nothing, you expect to live forever?

How many more gens you got in your life?

>>719601990
Die.
The PS6 should be a literal tombstone that families buy for their sonygroid manchildren.

>>719601990
Free MP
Games
$400

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Portable that is backwards compatible with every single PS console including psp and vita.

Make every ps1,2 psp and vita game available on the psn store
Plus all the weebshit from ps3 4,5

Backwards compatability all the way back to ps1 era.

Strike a deal with Sega and have them showcase Sega CD, DREAMCAST, and modern/semi modern Sega titles on there console for download or play as a monthly sub incentive.

Have Sega team up with square to make a new sonic or Sega universe jrpg

Ristar 2

Always offer physical releases, offer fair deals to incentivice cheaper rates for digital downloads.

Make Microsoft sign an contractual agreement that they must spend the next few years re-releasing those recently scrapped games we wanted. Remastering their golden era content for ps6 before they are allowed to make fresh content.

Let us play offline if we want to or Lan with friends !

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>>719603130
>Consoles used to offer a superior gaming experience to PC's at the same price point.
that never happened

>>719601990

>backwards compatibility (PS4-5)
>disc drive
>no paid online
>focus on performance over resolution
>simple design that doesn't look horribly out of place anywhere and is stable without a goddamn stand (sold separately)
That's it. And they'll never do it

>>719601990
They didnt need much outside of triple A to be the best console to have of this generation

>>719601990
Make it downward compatible with EVERY previous PS generation.

>>719617671
>>focus on performance over resolution
Sorry but that's bullshit. Movie game devs will always max out the visuals at the cost of FPS no matter what hardware you give them.

>>719617671
PS5 already achieves 120fps in multiplayer games

>>719601990
Video games.
Last game Sony has released was Astrobot a year ago.

>>719618341
It has plenty of triple A that the competitor switch cant even fathom running.

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>>719601990
There is nothing any of these fucks can do to make getting a new console worth it, that goes for Nintendo and Xbox. If anything those fucks need to set up and fund their own dedicated service that assists developers in optimizing their games for their respective consoles. All their homegrown studios know how to develop for their respective console(Im ignoring that Xbox doesnt have a studio like that but if anything that makes my argument stronger) and its about damn time they stop keeping this shit to themselves and make their knowledge available to the public and offer assistance to studios in optimizing their big ass games. Its not enough for like Sony to just throw money at a studio and pray for the best and that the technology will be enough, they need to take part in development of these games. If they do that then I dont even see the need for a new console generation when the technology is plenty capable for the next decade at least. But of course they wont do that so theyre just gonna try to sell a thousand dollar console and fuck that noise

>>719618379
so does my pc?? at least I can't play Bananza on it but I sure can play your shit with proper fps lmao

>>719601990
Some games, more than anything. The PS5 still looks like just an Astrobot machine to me.

>>719618670
Ps5 runs multiplayer games at 120fps which is really good for the majority of people. perfectly adequate. For a small fraction of the cost of a PC

>>719601990
Games basically.
The only reason I buy consoles nowadays is because I prefer to buy games physically, so there just need to be enough games to justify the price of the console.
I wouldn't have bought a PS5 either, if it weren't for the fact that it plays PS4 games, and the PS6 won't have that sort of advantage for me, because I already own a PS5.

>>719601990
>What's Sony got to do to get you back onboard for the PS6?

4k resolution
stable 60 fps for everything it plays.
Gravity Rush 3
bringing back $60 for new games
make sure the full game are on the fucking disks and not some stupid key

This should be the bare minimum instead of trying to copy nintendo.

>>719618379
But why would you want to play 99.9999999999999999999999% of AAA "games"

>>719618892
Because people want an easy to use machine that can run Call of duty and other big stuff that the switch cant play. Switch doesnt really have that many games. its got a few games, but it doesnt make up for lack of triple a support

Allow me to install windows on it
Allow me to download and play steam games
Allow me to mod games
Allow me to change my settings to how I see fit
Allow me to play with an uncapped framerate on my 4k 144hz TV

>>719618782
That's arguably the problem even third party devs are seeing with the PS6, they're seeing that people who have a PS5 don't have an interest in getting a PS6, it's even worse for people with a PS4 since PlayStation players, like Xbox players, just play the same exact third party games.

>>719614508
Who asked you?

>>719619147
He did.

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>>719618929
>"people" want to play AAA goyslop like CAWADOOTI
And how does that relate to the thread? Or make the Playstation a value proposition to anyone half a brain and a spoonful of taste?
Not to mention you can play literally every AAA game on pc bar gran turismo 7 and astro bot at equal pric3/graphics, with no paid online and utility to do literally anything else a computer can that a Playstation can't.
There is no reason to own a Playstation unless your retarded and somewhat poor.
Which I guess does meet the criteria of AAA slop enjoyer

>inb4 "tendie"
There is no reason to own any Nintendo console as you can emulate every Nintendo game except for the worst matio kart and an admittedly pretty good donkey Kong game

>>719619240
A console doesnt have to deal with hackers in multiplayer and it can run multiplayer games at a competitive refresh rate for a fraction of the cost. Computers are nearly always broken and is becoming prohibitively expensive at this point.

>>719601990
The question is more what will they do to lose the people just hanging on, what features can they remove to push more people into subscriptions.

E.G. they let you backup PS4 saves to USB, but PS5... no such option. You have to do a system backup instead, or buy PS+ goy.
They're giving up exclusives and physical, reducing the brand to just another online store (why the fuck not just use steam at that point).
PS6 truly will be a PC for poorfags with no other redeeming quality.

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>>719601990
HOW TO SAVE PLAYSTATION 101
>Move headquarters back to Japan
>Fire Cuckmann and Balrog, damnatio memoriae TLoU from ever being mentioned again
>Shovel rest of the incompetent californian cancer into the shittiest possible office in san francisco, preferably with as many niggers possible so the queers there resign
>Shutdown any movie AAA retardation (or at least put them on ice), scale back on AAA as a whole
>Shutdown/cancel all live service games except Helldivers 2
>Kill Bungie immediately and redistribute the dev manpower to other studios
>Revive Sony Liverpool, reform Team Asobi back into Japan Studio
>Start producing AA again and do a mass revival of older IPs like Ape Escape, Twisted Metal, Wipeout and Wild Arms
>STOP FUCKING PORTING BRAND NEW GAMES to PC, only release older previous gen stuff to PC
>make playstation online free again, with PS+ subscription still available
>games are no longer $70-$90, $60 max
>next hardware is a slightly more powerful PS5 Pro priced somewhere between $450-$600, all consoles have disc drives
>4k 60fps Bloodborne remaster (NOT remake), Infamous, Wipeout and Gravity Rush sequels/reboots as launch titles
>CUE THE PLAYSTATION RENAISSANCE

Make a CEO at SIE, i can fix it overnight

>>719619608
To be fair, TLOU 1 was well received and grew the playstation brand quite a bit. Until they ruined it.

>>719619517
>(why the fuck not just use steam at that point)

It's to avoid getting ripped off on hardware. Nvidia is really just shit at the whole gpu business.

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>>719601990
a flat top and sides so I can properly stack it, not this artsy-fartsy warped pringle nonsense

>>719601990
start remanufacturing ps1 and ps2 consoles
so yeah I’m never going back

>>719601990
The simple matter of the fact is that I'm not falling for it again. Hopefully they'll be generous with the Astrobot and R&C ports to PC. Because there's no reason for me to buy a console for what little brand exclusives still interest me. The value of Sony's consoles disappeared pretty quickly. But the other half of the story is that they shot themselves in the foot with numerous live service games. The only one excuse i can use that i didn't waste my money with the PS5 is saying i can play GTA6 first. And it's a terrible one as usual when it comes to value.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtG11pmBe3U

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>>719601990
Stopping this nonsense would be a good start

>>719601990
Single player games that I want to play.

>free online
It won't happen. Sony is too comfortable in the console market.

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>>719601990
ISIS style execution of leftist in their company

>>719601990
But i can already play 99% of their games on PC?

>>719619608
Going back 20 years is only going to kill it harder and faster, times change grandpa

>>719605342
Now that would be something

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You know how it's all gonna turn out. They'll bait you with one exclusive that people want to play that hypes people up then a few gated/timed exclusives and then it's back to no games. If you're lucky they might do a two bait then switcheroo just to reinforce brand confidence.

>>719617485
Yes it did zoomie.

>>719601990
Nothing. Home consoles are too locked down to be of any value.

>Performance better than a $1200 pc at $500
>BC all the way back (even Ps3)
>more good first party games
>basic PSN for free (all the PS extra stuff like free games is reasonable to keep behind a wall)

That's it. Literally that's how they win (again)

>>719601990
Full backward compatibility physically with all sony consoles/handhelds and allow fanservice and eroge games including loli games. Also powerful console and they should all modding installation. Games full on disc and no DRM bullshit. Basically be pro consumer it isn't hard.

once you go pc you can't go back to console because it's so massively superior in literally every single way that is perceivable or measurable. the only console i use now is xbox and that's only to continue gamepass games in another room. there is nothing sony can do which can make me want to abandon pc for their closed ecosystem which is designed to empty my wallet with mandatory subscriptions and high store prices.

>>719621357
My only issue is digital trash and no physical releases otherwise I'd go PC. I'm not paying for steamy faggots for censored garbage and digital only.

>>719601990
>haven't made a single good game since 2005
snoys can go fuck themselves

>>719621018
Switch cant play GTA 6 or call of duty. no game

>>719621302
The ps5 is already better than a 1200 dollar pc.
Also ps5 doesnt have to deal with hackers

>>719621414
you have more ways of owning your games on pc than on any console. and the software isn't tied to hardware either. you have storefronts like GOG which sell DRM free games. or just pirate a personal copy of a game if you already own it, like a backup. the ownership argument doesn't work with consoles anymore when many games don't even come with the entire game content on the disk anymore. not to mention hardware DRM to a console with garbage hardware even on day one, lets admit.

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>>719602289
>If a game like it could be built for the PS5, PS4, PS3, PC, or Switch or whatever. Then what's even the point of the PS6?
number higher good
next thing good
must have, everyone have

>>719621523
No it's not

>>719621473
When i said Switcheroo it was not referring to Nintendo's console. The sleight of hand so to speak. The tactic in which Sony leads you to believe that they're actually committed to first party exclusives by showing off something good early in and then go back to producing nothing of value. It's hard to predict what they'll do but maybe they'll get Miyazaki back on board for a 'killer app'. Well that's if you can still trick people that it's even worth the price of admission knowing that Sony will just put it on PC anyway.

>>719621641
Yes it is. A 1200 dollar PC is worthless. Also it cant play GTA 6.

>>719619608
>reform Team Asobi back into Japan Studio
yeah dude let's call french studio japan studio

>>719620573
then why xbox won't make online free? Everyone subs to gamepass regardless, it doesn't make sense

>>719621357
>>719621414
Physical is their moat, it's crazy they're doing everything they can to destroy it. Good luck to them...

>>719602289
>what's even the point of the PS6?
In a better world, it would be lower power draw and lower internal temps relative to performance, and leveraging all the gains in computing to create more complex game systems.

But all we get is nuclear reactors that can't run games that look worse than shit from 10 years ago and are all in-engine cutscenes masked as gameplay.

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>>719601990
>What's Sony got to do to get you back onboard for the PS6?
I thought the PS5 was their most successful console to date.

games
real games too not cinematic third person action stealth shit or gaas shit

>>719621689
>Team Asobi is a Japanese video game developer based in Tokyo. A first-party studio for Sony Interactive Entertainment, Team Asobi was originally formed in 2012 as part of Japan Studio, but formally spun off into an independent studio within Sony's PlayStation Studios in April 2021.

The XSex is a superior piece of technology to the PS5, and has backwards compatibility. The console is over, no need to but anything past this point. I'll just invest in a PC for next gen and hold the Sex for old game discs.

>>719601990
Ditch subscriptions
Stop engaging in specfaggotry
Stop making moviegames
Stop making gay games
Basically, go back to how games were thought of and made in gen 6
Anything shy of 90% of this, and I will continue to not bother

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>>719621952
you must be stupid

>>719602358
>If you remove physical copies and make it an internet box, your console is completely worthless.
Not a fan of steam huh

>>719621886
It was their most successful console since the PS2. But for some reason here on /v/ we pretend that Sony is in trouble or that consoles are dying or whatever.

>>719621662
It almost doesnt matter even if it comes to pc because people buying a console want them because theyre easy to use. PS5 is sonys most successful console to date and barely has any exclusives. Doesnt matter

>>719601990
Make some actual fucking games. Since PS4 launched there's literally only 1 game on Playstation that I have been bummed out about missing, and that was Bloodborne.

1 game since 2013. Absolute insanity.

I have gotten every single playstation console so far. There is nothing sony can do to convince me to get a ps6, when the ps5 was just a ps4 pro plus. I will skip it and eventually get a ps7 to actually play whatever ps6 games are worth it.

Sony is disgustingly greedy and does not commit to their new hardware so why should I?

>>719622297
That hasnt even stopped it from becoming by far their most successful console so far lol.

>>719621832
physical isn't viable anymore in this new age of seamless ecosystems. for example there is supposedly a ps6 handheld coming which will be able to play ps5 and ps4 games on it. we obviously know that some small handheld isn't going to be reading blu ray disks so it'll be an exclusively digital device. whether that's because of sony or just times changing, an all digital future is inevitable and that also means pc is the only platform which offers true ownership in the digital era.

>>719601990
It needs to be affordable and have physical copies. A few decent exclusives would help. If it's $800, geared towards all digital and has no games then I don't see why I wouldn't take those $800 and put it towards my next GPU.

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>>719622147
>It was their most successful console since the PS2
*by revenue
>But for some reason here on /v/ we pretend that Sony is in trouble or that consoles are dying or whatever.
They didn't spend 4 Billy on a studio for said studio to base an artstyle of their new game entirely around ip theft during the ps2 days
They didn't cancel 90% of the new games initiative during the ps2 days
They didn't pull a game 2 weeks after release in the ps2 days
They didn't double down on woke shit for all their tentpole sequels and lose half of the 1st games sales in the ps2 days
Most importantly, they didn't go 99% third-party in the ps2 days

>>719622334
People itt are talking about their personal experiences and opinions. Not about the PS5s success in general.

>>719601990
allow porn games on the store.

>>719622410
I'm not reading that. The PS5 was a hit. The PS6 will be a hit. The Switch 2 is a hit. Consoles are in great standing. Your average consumer doesn't want to build a PC. They want to hook a console up to their TV. /v/ lives in a fantasy world divorced from reality.

>>719622336
Digital shill. Many still do physical releases fine. You can check does it play also anime and movies still release on bluray. Digital shill should fuck off because they will be controlled and everything will be censored and will be tracked online.
>>719622490
Agreed but I need physical releases of loli eroge.

>>719622334
80 million isn't as impressive as you think; that's only half the Switch install base, and doesn't account at all for the MASSIVE growth in overall player numbers since the PS2 days. PC is winning, simple as.

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>Playstation is japanese

>>719622497
>I'm not reading easily verifiable facts
I know, you're a ps5 supporter

>>719622553
is that the astro bot team? its just latinxes and jeets albeit

>>719622565
Because the only fact that matters is that the PS5 was a massive success.

>>719622497
Switch 2 has Nintendo exclusives and portability
What does ps5 have again?

>>719622098
I mean if the entire credits rolling was Japanese dev names I'm going to believe that it's really just a jap studio and probably some remnants of old Japan Studio, although i was too lazy to look that up i do remember someone saying as much. Also not that anon you were replying to but that's what stood out to me.

>>719622593
*by revenue
If marathon flops as bad as concord, which it 99% will, all the ps5 profits will go up in smoke with the 4 billion cost of acquiring bungie
It's ogre

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>>719601990
Good games

Don't pay to play online

Ps1-ps3 games but with good emulation.

Bloodborne 4k 60fps

Physical copies even if that means switching to cartridges

Native 4k 60fps minimum and if they want to upscale to 8k or 120fps they can use all the AI they want.

Honestly I don't think there's much stopping me from going PC. Most modern games will be garbage for the rest of western civilization.

Honestly I think apple had a chance to fill in the small space here but they kind of missed it.

I think people will just emulate old games for the rest of time.

>>719622497
ps5 is barely making a profit, so much so that shareholders and investors have been flagging it as worrisome for years. revenue =/= profit. it's not even selling as well as the ps4 despite the ps4 basically launching the playstation brand to new highs after the failure of the ps3. meanwhile steam concurrent users is breaking new records every other month. people are migrating to pc en masse. and with the rise of pc handhelds, that will become even more prevalent.

>>719622589
Nicolas Doucet isn't even on there so no

>>719622643
It's the best multiplat console. The PS6s competition is not the Switch or the PC. It's the Xbox

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>big 3 modern consoles
>0 games
>0 games
>2 games, 1 which is bad
I don't think I'm buying a console ever again lads
What's the best handheld pc for emulation up to 3ds/ps2?
My budget is 1600 dollerydoos

>>719622770
Yeah but most multiplats are garbage. The most anticipated game this year is an indie game and I don't even think gta6 will be good. Gta has been reddit tier since gta5.

>>719601990
Not joking, an explicitly pro-white commitment and apology for all the woke bullshit they’ve shit out the last few generations, plus a $300 price tag. They are dead to me and need to do something extremely drastic.

>>719622839
>most multiplats are garbage
what an inane take

>>719622770
Given the absolute retard proof nature of pre builts nowadays, PC is absolutely snoys biggest competition
Buying off steam is as easy as buying off psn, which the majority of CoD and madden normies do nowadays

>>719622874
Name 10 good multiplats from the last 5 years

>>719622874
Sorry, most MODERN multiplats are garbage.

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Bring back the pre 2017/2018 mentality and games
I should be able to play Senran Kagura, Kingdom Hearts, Astro Bot, Stellar Blade, God of War, and cool new IPs on the same console

>>719622882
Not to mention no need for ps plus

it's time to build a pc and replay all my childhood games with retroachievements

>>719622770
>The PS6s competition is not the Switch or the PC. It's the Xbox
Lmao xbox as a console right now is virtually dead. The new xbox is going to have steam on it and be a janky pre built kinda PC. It's going to offer infinitely more than the PS6. So Sony's competition absolutely will be PC. Switch 2 is cheaper le family friendly updoot console and PS6 will be a worse version of a PC with less games. Normies will never build a PC but they'll pay double for a prebuilt.

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>>719622839
>>719622882
The day these people buy PCs instead of a Playstation to play Fifa and CoD is the day I will stop calling /v/ retarded.

make a PS6 series s for use a couch console and have cross-buy with PC

>>719622970
(p.s, it's not happening)

>>719622970
I think it's a good thing that it's not happening because otherwise companies would absolutely try to go after emulation or game mods.

The only thing we need to be doing right now is making emulation better and maybe making good fan remasters like RE4 HD project.

>>719622970
Those kinda people are the same people still playing on PS4 which I think is like 40%~ of people on playstation iirc. Even the most stubborn of normies are despondent over the state of console gaming

>>719622970
And what the fuck do you care?
You don't actually play those games do you?
And if you don't, what do you actually use a ps5 for?

>>719623159
>I think it's a good thing that it's not happening because otherwise companies would absolutely try to go after emulation or game mods.
Well then perhaps this retarded board should stop praying for the downfall of Playstation. You bring up a good point

>>719622970
Screenshotted
Please be around in 5 years or less
There will be no ps7

>>719623196
>>719623194
>Why do you care
Why are we having this discussion with me about the success or failure of the ps6? I don't fucking know.

>>719601990
>>719601990
Don't even have any games for the PS5 yet

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>>719601990
Crash Twinsanity remake

>>719601990
Make games.
They wont ever do that thoughbeit

>>719622970
The only way that will happen is if someone makes a prebuilt PC designed to be full on RETARD PROOF with a customized OS designed to play games and Netflix so users don't have to interact with Windows or Linux AT ALL. Give the box a nice design. Give it a marketable name like X-Station or something and include peripherals like a controller in the box since most people don't want to play on a keyboard and... oh wait.

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>>719622970
PC gaming will continue to look smaller and smaller in the market because these casual machines do gangbusters for sports games which is why Sony put most of their efforts into it. When people brag about why Sony's consoles sell so high what they're not telling you is the real reason that they're actually selling for and that it's literally just because people are buying garbage like FIFA, indeed. Inflated adoption rates for actual trash.

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>that one lone ps fanboy standing up for Playstation despite the gargantuan amount of fuckups by snoy in the last 12 months
Kinda sad tbqhwy sempai
At least it's not Eric for a change

>>719623441
Didn't that go multiplat

>>719602223
This but also online play without payment for me. PS3 managed it.

>>719623441
Because they're just delusional marks who love Playstation but don't actually know why it sells so well. No one is buying a Playstation for Final Fantasy 16, Uncharted 5 and the latest Kojima game.

>virtually every single part can be easily purchased and replaced or upgraded
>opening up console to clean it doesn't void warranty
>10+ good new exclusives on launch with a dated timeline of 30 titles to come over the next year after launch
>Free online
The more you describe the dream console the more you describe building a PC. PS2 era was the last time a console was actually worth it.

>>719622963
>Normies will never build a PC but they'll pay double for a prebuilt.
Absolutely fucking delusional. To get a prebuilt to compete it would have to become a console. See (>>719623438). No company aside from maybe Apple is in a good position to do that.

>>719601990
The next xbox is going to have mod support so that. It has to be able to do mods like a pc and that's pretty much it.

>>719623736
You underestimate normies
They eat slop but uf they know how to buy shit off psn they know how to buy shit off steam
The majority of them use a pc for work anyway, they're not complete cavemen
When Sony release their next console (their last) and go full 3 Rd party the gen after, normies will majority move to pc and like 10% just quit playing games altogether

>>719623845
I mean there's no confirmation that there isn't going to be mod support. We don't know anything official about the ps6.

>>719601990
Other os like the original PS2/3
Good originals like the ps1-4
Controllers that aren't dogshit like the ps4-5
Games cost 30-50usd and consoles 499usd max for a pro
Haven't had a ps in over 13 years

bring socom back

>>719623942
Eh maybe
>>719624000
and this. In terms of games, they'd have to have actual video games again like ps1 and 2 era playstation, not just interactive cutscenes.

>>719601990
they should go back to their roots and copy nintendo

>>719623880
It still needs to be designed to interface with a TV, and Windows needs to be cut out/made invisible like on Steamdecks. But I see your point. Price and branding are more important than you think though.

>>719601990
a)have games
b)when i say games, i mean games, not movies

Back to exclusives focus and drop the movie games.

Bloodborne 2, jak n daxter 4, zone of the enders 3.

PS3 was significantly worse than before but it still had a bit of soul. PS4 and PS5 feel like shittier pc's

>>719624115
With every generation console just becomes more and more just like pc, to the point where console gamers should just buy a prebuilt and save themselves a subscription

>>719601990
Given how much dough I dropped on my new PC build in January they would have to come out with some sort of miracle system
>10 banger exclusives in launch window that are actual exclusives, not timed
>$499 MSRP WITH disc drive
>BC up to PS4
>Share feature saves last 4 hours of gameplay
>Double controller battery life of Dualsense 5
>120 FPS 1080P MINIMUM with some games doing 4K 120 FPS
I'm not even going to put free online on the miracle wishlist. Might as well ask Sony to make the console bake me cookies and shit.
Quite frankly I'm done with Sony probably. PS5 was the first Playstation I didn't buy besides PSP, and I don't see myself getting another one. Nintendo+PC is the way to go.

>>719601990
send me a new PS3 free of charge to make up for the one I bought dying a month out of the warranty period due to faulty hardware
otherwise, fuck off

>>719601990
Dig themselves a hole in their backyard, jump in it and have their neighbors cover it with cement. It's the only way to make me a Sony fan.

>>719601990
enforce a guaranteed absolute minimum of 60 fps in ALL published games for the console

All devices are becoming the same thing. A computer in a different form factor. Most people can do everything on their iPhone or Sammy that they do on a computer. Consoles and PCs are the same things now. The differentiator is form factor and how you market it.

>remove the online subscription
>move the analogue stick where the d-pad is
That's it, I'm now a Playstation fanboy.

>>719602331
This but unironically, also turn every rock to find Jim Ryan and execute him with a pickaxe

>>719624279
>Back to exclusives
Games are too expensive to produce and too easy to make multiplatform now since the hardware is all the same for it to make sense to make many exclusives

>>719624102
HDMI out
Normies know how to use Windows anon
They use it at work
They will jump through a slightly smaller hoop to get their Ronaldo microtransactions fix because their dopamine withdrawal will tell them to do it.
Maybe some 3rd worlders won't make the jump because of price, but I will bet you 1000 dollerydoos right now pre built companies that advertise all over YouTube, twatter, instagram and Facebook will absolutely release a "ps5 killer" brain dead pc that is no more than 200-300 more expensive and tell them exactly how much they save on no psn membership fees to actually fucking play online, which they can then justify buying more shark cards or whatever the fuck with the savings

>>719624392
Impossible because the games are all made for PCs with 5090s first and everything else as an afterthought, I suppose they could upscale 320p to 4k

>>719601990
I have a PC, there's zero reason to buy a new console unless it's offering decent exclusives.

>>719602661
What difference would it make? We're not living in the PS2 days. The second I picked up the first PS3 ratchet I knew it was over. And I was already feeling put off by the time that 4th game came out on the PS2 with the arena. Total deviation from the formula. It's unironically the worst PS2 game. Not a bad game by itself. But it wasn't a platformer. It didn't involve any measure of exploration. It was kinda boring and changing the default camera option to something that was available in previous titles wasn't nearly a crafty enough trick to make me forget that. They raped the character dead and even their reboot of R&C 1 shows they've no intention of considering the old character a thing. Essentially, there was no character development in Insomniac's eyes. The old Ratchet never existed. They replaced him.

>>719602756
No coincidence playstation used to be at its peak for that reason.

>>719624615
So then hypothetically if some consumers are willing to pay a $1000 for a prebuilt PC that's basically a console, what's stopping Sony from just dropping a $1000 PS6 ULTRA PRO? And then Microsoft responding by releasing a budget friendly $500 console (because that is a very large market will always exist and one or more of these companies will aways fill it)... then Sony responding by releasing their own budget Playstation... and you see where this is going? We're at the point we are at now because this is the only way it can be.

>>719624615
>Ronaldo microtransactions fix
Uhmmm. excuse you. I'm only buying my MESSI TRANSACTIONS

>>719604881
Nintendo should be dead to you too with how litigious and fucking greedy they are.
>SORRY GOY NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY TIME TO PONY UP ANOTHER 20 DOLLARS TO UNLOCK YOUR GAME ON A NEW CONSOLE
>WHAT'S THAT, SOME RANDOM KIDS ARE USING POKEMON AND MARIO MODELS ON GARRY'S MOD, A 20 YEAR OLD GAME? SUE SUE SUE
>HOLY FUCK IS SOMEONE TRYING TO PUT A SPIN ON THE DEAD HORSE THAT IS THE POKEMON SERIES? THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF COLLECTING FANTASY ANIMALS AND USING THEM IN COMBAT IS THE SOLE PROPERTY OF THE NINTENDO CORPORATION, SUE SUE SUE
>WOWIE IS THAT A CHARITY USING OUR GAMES IN A SPEEDRUN TO RAISE MONEY FOR INTERNATIONAL EMERGENCY RELIEF? DESTROY THEM NOW
literal subhumans

>>719623253
I shall be waiting five years to see if you remember to tell me that I was right anon

>>719601990
Allow you to install games and other software that isn't on Sony's store.

>>719605306
I would actually buy a PS6 for this. Like I know emulation exists on the PC and it's 95% fine. But for the first time in two decades it would feel like sony had their finger on the pulse.

>>719625061
A controlled eco-system is what keeps consoles safe and easy to use.

>>719601990
How much of a failure is the PS5 that they're already deep into the development of PS6? What could it possibly offer? Slightly better performance of PS5 games, which currently are just slightly better performing PS4 games? And what are they gonna charge? $1000? Fuck that. It should be five years away at minimum. PS5 is the first Sony console I haven't purchased and how could I? It's an overpriced minor upgrade and they're already preparing its replacement.
It's those kind of moves that shatter my confidence in a company and the direction its going.

>>719625105
"Safe" from what.

>>719624913
>what's stopping Sony from just dropping a $1000 PS6 ULTRA PRO?
Terrible business decisions that are sign posting the end of Sony making consoles all together. Not going to regurgitate, read the thread.
There will be no ps7, and given how shit a ps6 could launch, most likely no ps6 pro, which is what your describing.

>And then Microsoft responding by releasing a budget friendly $500 console
They could, yes, because infinite Microsoft money, but all signs are them going 3rd party too. I think the suits at MS have finally realised what a money pit xbox has been outside of the 1st half of the 360s life. Also Switch 2 will be seen as "budget" the way console prices are going and it will play all your FIFA and fortnite and bullshit

>>719625048
Looking forward to it
Unlike the non existent ps7

>>719602661
In completely opposite view to that other anon, yeah one more R&C game could have made the difference on this generation being underwhelming, maybe. Either that or a second Astrobot. I don't expect it's realistic that Sly Cooper or Jak to ever come back. But if were up to me fix Sony it would just be focus on legacy franchises or older company direction and trim down the bloat like Horizon, all of Naughty Dogs games, Studio Bend's games and tell Suckerpunch to make Sly Cooper. I'd rather Sly over Infamous anyway.

But still i don't think it's appropriate anyone who owns these consoles should be begging to get more games when Sony wasted 400 million dollars on Concord. I'd say you just need to see a bad value proposition when you see it and move on.

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>>719613293
holy fuck we sold a unit

>>719601990
Why would I buy a console? All of the games I play are already on PC.

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>>719601990
There's nothing they can do. Without exclusives I couldn't care less about their platform. I'll stick with nintendo/pc

>>719625139
From accidentally breaking things. Also from a developer perspective, it's much easier to work in a streamlined environment. A locked down eco-system is one of the main reasons the iPhone beat early Android phones, for example.

>>719625113
It really is a ps4 pro 2, and I own one

>>719601990
undercut the fuck out of Nvidia by making their shit 24GB vram. Game devs optimise their game for 24GB VRAM. You either spend $600 on a ps6 or pay $2500 for a 5090 or you crash and lag like shit while playing smooth on a PS6.

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>>719613293
>>719625206
FUCKING KEK

>>719625145
>Terrible business decisions
It wouldn't be a bad decision in the hypothetical scenario that you are describing. Where consumers who are used to paying $500 magically all decide that $1000 for a prebuilt PC larping as a console is something they'd be wiling to do.

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>>719625005
Their games are good, so the money I'll spend.

>>719625269
Would be based but could they even do that

>>719625269
Anon, by the time PS6 is out the 60 series is out and the 6050 ti will be stronger

>>719623336
they'd have to actually finish it first before remaking it. It's incredible how far that game falls off after just the first area.

>>719625321
They spent 4 billion on Bungie anon, only for Bungie to steal literally all the art assets for their new Destiny successor and make it completely DOA and the next Concord. Wasting 4 BILLION FUCKING DOLLARS is enough to make even the most retarded company (except Disney) completely rethink and overhaul their business. They're going 3rd party to somehow recoup losses.

Also price point really isn't a factor with normies. Mobile phones used to be 200 or less, now everyone except for the absolute poorfags pay 1000

>>719601990
Knack 3

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>>719622935
This, fuck them for their censorship policies.

Right now there's no reason to get a PS5 unless you just never got a PS4.

To win me back, you'd have to have the following.
>Full Backwards Compatibility, including the PSP & Vita. They have the tech to make proper PS3 emulation, they just choose not to because they see no reason to do so. If some tech junkies can make emulation of PS2, PS3, & PS4 by guesswork and reverse engineering, imagine actually having the proper documents.
>Disc Drive as standard without an online activation
>Free Online
>No gimmick on the controller like the trigger feedback, it's useless.
>Smaller but in more quantity of Sony IPs, they have tons of IPs just waiting to be used that could have been made. But instead they went with GAAS games that all failed.

I'll gladly pay the premium $700 then if I know I'm getting what I would consider a full product.

>>719625005
Nintendo will have games in the future.
Also I'm waiting on a hardware revision

>>719625591
I just bought Peach Beach Splash

>>719625183
When do you think the PS6 is releasing? I think maybe 28. In such case, a PS7 could launch in 35 or 36. A decade from now the landscape of computer technology will be so radically different that it's hard to even imagine where we'll be.

>>719625596
I agree with all of this but actually like trigger feedback for gran turismo 7 and Returnal

>>719625521
How does Sony going third party look to you?

>>719606910
>Become the bastion for ecchi games and full porn games
Why would they destroy their incredibly profitable brand as THE place for prestige, "mature" stories in games just to pivot to an audience of broke perverts? That seems like a terrible idea. At that point I would just tell them not worry about losing coomers. Have all the manly faced women in the world

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>>719601990
not charging a subscription fee to use my fucking internet for a start

>>719625692
I dunno, really depends on how far they are along, whether it's just a slightly better ps5 clone architecturally or an actual switch like hybrid that th rumor mill has been suggesting
But if Sony continues on their current trajectory without pulling some massive W out of their ass either this gen or next, there will be no ps7

>>719625759
Sega basically, with way worse games.
Maybe trying to make psn a steam competitor and failing miserably
That's about it

>>719623528
>online play without payment
A little barrier to entry keeps the armies of shitty 3rd worlders and faggot cheater off the platform.
I'd rather drop a few bucks for PSN bro-op now and then instead of getting the authentic PC faggot multiplayer experience.

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>>719601990
Knack 3

>>719625787
OY VEY

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>>719625862
Holy fucking goy
Just play better mp games
You're literally paying for air

>>719601990
They can't.
The only thing they had was being a space for third party developers and with them going multiplat only going for timed exclusive deals at the most there's absolutely nothing PlayStation can do to bring me back especially since their first party games were always garbage.

>>719625862
>A little barrier to entry keeps the armies of shitty 3rd worlders and faggot cheater off the platform.
no it fucking doesn't you lying kike. if people are building PCs and cheating and let me remind you that PCs cost easily 3-6x more, how do you think a little subscription fee is going to stop cheating niggers

>>719601990
games?

>>719625663
And that's the last game they allowed to be made besides the spin-off crossover.

>>719613293
Is the joke that they're already doing that?

>>719626068
GAMES ARE PROBLEMATIC CHUD

Sony lost me as a customer with the ps4 primarily through their lack of (for the time) next gen racing games (no fuck off driveclub came out way later and was nowhere near as good as motorstorm). It also didn't help that namco left ridge racer to die and with current trends sony is not going to offer exclusive games I want to play.

>>719626150
Yes I think they're being ironing

>>719626193
OT but what's some good newer RACAN vidya?
Kinda dipped on the genre after all the good shit on ps2 by Genki

>>719601990
I will never buy a Sony Playstation.

>>719601990
remove every movie game
bring back mascot platformers as their main draw
bring back japanese games as their main draw
remove DEI policies from top to bottom with a concerted effort to show that they are sorry for trying to fuck with their male consumer base so terribly. A game like Wuchang would be a good apology letter. A game with a big breasted woman with jiggle physics proudly stamped with the Sony logo on it. None of this Forspoken crap, where the characters are ugly and talking about female body positivity or trying to get people to experience this fake "black youth" experience.

Sony IPs that could use new games, doesn't have to be AAA. Can be just AA.
>Ape Escape
>Arc The Lad
>Jak & Daxter
>lemmings
>MotorStorm
>Oreshika
>Siren
>Sly Cooper
>Syphon Filter
>Wild Arms

>>719625815
It doesn't really need to copy the switch, but it probably will. Sonys path to victory/recovery is so simple. Everyone itt is massively overthinking it.

>>719601990
Nothing lol
They can rot in hell, them and their brand loyalist cultists niggers for all I care

>>719626263
For anything in the AAA space pickings are basically non-existent. The genre is effectively kept alive on pc by simdads or indie titles which can be hit and miss. On playstation it basically GT7, (now) forza horizon or gtfo.

>>719622803
Deck oled

>>719601990
move hq back to japan and revive japan studio. I don't care if you have to call it something different, I just need to see first party japanese developed exclusives. That's understandably never going to happen though, which is why I'm done with playstation.

>>719626319
I would kill for a new siphon filter game
but it would be a copy paste of cod/bf at this point.

>>719626653
>and revive japan studio
I'm pretty sure most of them moved to greener pastures at places like Nintendo.

>>719622102
I can backup my steam games and play them without steam though

>>719617485
A $200 Xbox would blow a $200 PC out of the water back when it came out.

When the PS6 is the biggest Sony success since the PS2, I'm gonna drink your tears until I die.

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>>719626319
FUCKING SOUL SACRIFICE
SNOY ARE SITTING ON A GOLD MINE
ALL THE MONHUN MONEY
ALL THE DARK SOULS MONEY
ALL THE BORED OF HELLDIVERS 2 MONEY
FUCK

>>719601990
Move their gaming division's HQ back to Japan and fire every non-Japanese person in a position of leadership

>>719627028
Anon, even if the system sells 200 million it'll still be a failure since they aren't selling software. That's the important part.

>>719627028
It's gotta make 4 billion in profit just to break even after the Bungie fuck up, not including the cost of developing and manufacturing the console itself
Good luck bro, my tears are safe as houses

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>>719627272
We're making 8 billion in profit with our exclusive Fortnite clone and GTA6 money making machines baby. You don't understand the geniuses at Sony. A PS6 in every household in the world. The Bungie shit was a minor setback for a major comeback. This is why you're a doom and gloomer and not a SonyChad

>>719627457
>We're
Talk about a corporate cultist.

>>719613293
This + only make overwatch reskins that cost $500 million to produce
Only then will I buy a PS6

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>>719626319
What sony should do is hit up the Von Snake guy who made BallisticNG, finance him (and probably supply him some artists) and have him make a true wipeout series best of compilation. Admittedly that boils down to reskinning BallisticNG but it is something he could likely do with proper financial backing and it would be a good way to make a game that feels right and uses the wipeout IP essentially just as a marketing tool. Market it as the retro games you remember now on ps5 or some shit.

>>719627457
Didn't he admit to not owning a Playstation and not playing video games
Nice messiah

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>>719602223
>no online requirement
nah, they will still go with a detachaed physical drive
your only option, just like with a ps5, is to get a disc drive version at launch
>normal physical copies
what's wrong with ps5 in that department?
I mean if you play ANYTHING besides call of duty and ubisoftsloppa there's a good chance you are a getting a physical release
>>719602289
this will never happen
the next big thing was supposed to be VR
we are still rehashing the same 20 year old gameplay: ubisoft-style open world games, linear cinematic walking simulators, all straight from 7th gen consoles where games peaked (gameplay wise)
>>719605306
retard do you realize that most of the companies that made those games are either defunct or in licensing hell?
it's simply not possible, even some sony owned IPs are like this

anyway for me it's
>competitive pricing
since xbox is going full pc prebuilt it will obviously be more expensive than a regular console that is sold at a loss as a business model
$399 - 499 is what I expect (depending on how many versions they do, it could be a series X/S situation again, with an upcoming handheld)
ps6 will be pretty much the last home console on the market, they should leverage that as much as possible
>backwards compatibility
just bring ps3 BC nigga, it's not much to ask for, people have been beggining for it (despite not buying a BC ps3 in the first place as hypocritical faggots)
they already have a partial BC with ps1-ps2-psp-vita games through ports and remasters on their new emualator, your ps3 digital purchases also carryover to ps4/ps5
people who think they will do
>full hardware BC
>no online/no paid online
are simply delusional, why would they do this if people are actually paying for this shit?
ps5 alone is their most profitable generation to date

and last but not least, do you retards believe the shit that you say? NOBODY WILL PLAY SMALL GAMES
it has always been about big budget blockbuster AAA games, period

>>719627550
The way some of you niggas talk one would wonder if you have vested interest in Sony failing or something.
>>719627616
Chad Warden is an idea, not a human.

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>>719627656
Anon the thread is about what would ACTUALLY get a former Sony fan back in to Sony's ecosystem, not what retarded jew-jitsu they're actually likely to maintain going forward
Everyone here with the exception of that one deluded snoy (who is probably a nice guy I'm sorry to say) know Snoy is beyond hope and saving at this point

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>>719601990
first: fire mark cerny
second: shut down Santa Monica, Naughty Dog and Team Asobi.
third: give me it for free.

>>719627738
>make 4 of my top 5 favourite consoles of all time (ps1,2, psp, vita)
>sell out and make jewed movie games
>kill Japanese support and Japan studio
Yes, I absolutely want them to fail and lose sleep over it for not just being a good Japanese console company and taking blackrock society killing bribes
Their colossal GaaS fuck up and burning 4 billion on Bungie is some of the best news I've read all decade
Yes I have a vested interest

>>719627821
doomerfaggots said they will never purchase a switch 2 and yet here we are it's selling as hot cakes
anon the thing is that it's pretty much the default choice, if you want hassle-free gaming and even slightly care about exclusives or playing games earlier then you go and pick a playstation consoles because xbox is dead and has no value due to microsoft shooting themselves in the dick every single time they come up with something new, while pc player are milked by Goyvidya for marginal increases in performance that you wouldn't see without a 10x zoom-in while playing the same console games essentially
people will still show up and preorder a ps6 despite crying how shit sony is because consumers have the memory of a goldfish and all the $COMPANY_NAME goodwill is restored as soon as they see a fancy advertisement
Snoy doesn't need to be saved, shareholders are having a good time, that's the only thing that matters to a public company, customers are irrelevant

>>719625898
You can pro Pali all you want it doesn't make it untrue

>>719628017
I've been trying to tell them this all thread anon. They genuinely think that the PS6 will fail. No saving people like >>719627974

>>719628017
>it's pretty much the default choice
For now.
Before the ps4, it was the 360. Before that, the SNES, slthough it lost way more customers than it should have to Sega because Genesis had the better sports games
Look at phones. Racer was the meta, then iPhone, then Android. Consumers are not loyal unless you have Nintendo's 1st party ip strength. Which snoy doesn't, because they keep fagging up their games in the sequel entries to the point of even turning off normies.

Market shifts can and absolutely do happen
All that needs to happen is some genius pre built company makes the iPhone tier branding and ease of use Playstation killer sports game box and get it in to normies heads that ps plus is peak judaism they don't have to pay for so they have an extra 15 a month to spend on micros and they will abandon Sony in droves.

Also, I never said switch 2 would fail. I absolutely expect it to do well and at absolute worst do 3ds numbers compared to switch 1 doing ds numbers

>>719628201
>"pro Pali"
Ahem

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>>719617485
Underageb&

>>719628261
What's your strategy for recouping a 4 billion dollar loss Herman?
No really

>>719622102
pc as a platform lets you rip shit, archive it, do whatever you want with your files
there's no difference between files on a disc and a hard drive
consoles don't let you do even basic file management
there's a reason they call it jailbreaking, if you're in prison you might as well get free food

>>719626945
>I can use piracy methods to back up my games
You can do the same with consoles.

>>719628413
>All that needs to happen is some genius pre built company makes the iPhone tier branding and ease of use Playstation killer sports game box and get it in to normies heads that ps plus is peak judaism they don't have to pay for so they have an extra 15 a month to spend on micros and they will abandon Sony in droves.
The only company that has the resources and mindshare to do that is Apple. A random startup is not going to carry more weight than the Playstation branding. Just not happening. You guys do not understand how fucking powerful a strong recognizable brandname is.

>>719628497
ps6 799 dorra

>>719628567
years after and you can't ever use the console online again after you do that
what a shit deal

>>719601990
-Make multiplayer free
-stop censoring games
-improve the subscription allowing you to keep a game forever every month seven after the ps bs ends

>>719628452
It's not a genocide I'm sorry but the numbers don't add up to one

>>719628413
>Market shifts can and absolutely do happen
so what do you reckon is the next market shift going to be?
latest reports show how alphas play on mobile more but the actual cohort of people that actually purchase games and gaming devices are later zoomers-millennials aka people with jobs and extra income to waste on gaming, young people simply don't have that (as a matter of fact all the ipads and in-game purchases are made with the money of their parents)
the kids that played on ps1-ps2 are in the perfect age to be in the workforce and afford their first consoles that is ps5/ps6
>Consumers are not loyal unless you have Nintendo's 1st party ip strength.
I mean not really, ps5 generation lacks in that department compared to previous generation and it's still doing very well
there are other things in play here
for instance people already have libraries of physical/digital playstation games, there's no point to let's say switch to xbox that has the same games, it makes more sense to purchase a nintendo console or a pc to complement the playstation (or the other way around, you get the point)
>All that needs to happen is some genius pre built company makes the iPhone tier branding and ease of use Playstation killer sports game box and get it in to normies heads that ps plus is peak judaism they don't have to pay for so they have an extra 15 a month to spend on micros and they will abandon Sony in droves.
well I'd like to see it happen but it just doesn't, unless it's an already established brand with a big following they have nothing to put on the table against the giants that are sony/ninteno/microsoft because they will just crush them
>Also, I never said switch 2 would fail.
I didn't say that you said that, but the sentiment was there even in normie spaces, it's mostly ragebait

>>719628571
No one knew who the fuck Samsung was 20 years ago outside of the few random poor fags that bought their shitty tvs. Ironically, as Sony was the leading brand in electronic home entertainment, TV's stereos, walkman, discman you name it.
Where is all that shit now? Oh right Market shifts.
Sony us absolutely not "too big to fail" as you are describing

>>719628728
>the numbers don't add up
Peak Kettle Shlomo
Best laugh I've had in a long time

>>719628497
Back to the roots. Last of Us, Horizon, all the woke (I despise that term but I'll use it because you know what I'm talking about) is out the window. Sony has to win three categories.
Exclusives, they need to revamp their entire thinking here.
Multiplats, easy win. Already the best place to play multiplats. No one who owns a PS5 and a Switch two is buying the switch version of the new From game or GTA6 or whatever
Price/Performance, also an easy win. Keep is around $500 with the performance of a PC roughly 3x the price ($1500)

>>719628810
Herman would have an aneurysm reading this

>>719627656
Ps5 pro is 749, ps6 will not be less than 800

>>719628752
Sony is not too big to fail. But a new company coming out of no where saying "Buy this $1000 pre-built PC instead of a PS6" is just ridiculous man. It has to be a company that already has a lot of backing and mindshare. Prebuilts already exist and they are not replacing consoles so this hypothetical company that you're talking about will only having marketing as a differentiator.

>>719628810
This is the only realistic way forward thoughbeit unlikely
I regret having boughted 3rd party games on the Switch 1 as a poorfag with just that console
They look so much nicer on better hardware that I really double dipped a lot

>>719628810
>Already the best place to play multiplats
Eh, no. Between being considerably weaker than PC and not having the features of the switch next to no one buys their multiplats on PlayStation anymore. The only way they sell more on ps is if they're exclusive which would require Sony paying them which defeats the purpose.

>>719625862
if they can afford a console they can afford a shitty subscribtion

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They lost me after the ps2

>>719628929
mind that ps5 pro is made on old out of demand silicon too
zen2? rdna2? on 5 year old silicon? and they're still raising prices?
now imagine the chances of amd giving sony a good deal on more expensive wafers that amd, nvidia, apple and qualcomm are all going to be fighting for and then sony passing off that deal to the customer when they're also going all third party with less return on investment per customer

>>719629028
>Between being considerably weaker than PC and not having the features of the switch
No one cares about playing the new Fifa at 120fps and the undocked Switch stuff. They buy it on PS5. The Switch 2 can't even run Elden Ring and Cyberpunk.

>Free online service, multiplayer + free games
>Killer exclusives
This would be compelling, even at the insane prices that they sell consoles at nowadays.

>>719628929
anon the ps4 pro was $399 msrp and that was also the launch price of the ps5
they will keep the price low, the no-disc drive ps6 will be around $399
whether they will use the drumpf tariffs thing to increase the price at launch is another topic

>>719628891
Because he's retarded
>>719629018
Exactly. And the Switch 2 is not going to be any better in terms of Multiplats either.

>>719629000
And marketing always fucking wins the mind of normies
All they have to do is value proposition based on not spending 100 plus a year on ps plus, make it retard proof and reap the ensuing word of mouth and popularity snowball. It literally doesn't have to be an Apple tier company. Every major company that wasn't big/existed in the 80s came from fucking nowhere in the last 10-15 years. Every social media site, Amazon, Uber, YouTube, fucking only fans. All of which had first mover advantage and great marketing. A genius pre built company could absolutely kill console gaming outside Nintendo (and would fuck them up too depending on emulator progress) like smart phones killed dedicated handhelds

>>719628929
i built a pc for the price of a ps5 pro and ii can play every game at way better quality settings and framerate it's honest a joke how much consoles still go for nowadays considering they were already outdated at launch.

>>719629320
honestly*

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>>719627595
There are probably other capable developers that can make good arcade racing. BallisticNG is probably the closest spiritual successor and the safest bet on developers on the other hand. But I'd point to any of these games about being potential candidates too in regards to developers who know how to make good arcade racing. Even if half are really just F Zeros mostly. And rollcage sort of games sit somewhere in the middle.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/517710/Redout_Enhanced_Edition/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1799930/Redout_2/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2539910/XF_Extreme_Formula/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2160360/Aero_GPX/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/396900/GRIP_Combat_Racing/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1721590/DEATHGRIP/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/443860/Riptide_GP_Renegade/

I believe anyone who just has experience with an extreme racer in general would be capable of making a Wipeout.

>>719601990
They can't do anything. I'm PC only at this point. I just bought a 5090. No way I'm getting some bargain bin console.

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having some games would probably be enough to make me actually get one but there's no point in getting a PS6 to get one or two movie games that they're gonna port to PC anyway

>>719628795
I'm not jewish pro pali paypig

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>mfw a Playstation that isn't 1, 2 or a portable

>>719629204
Then why are they selling more on pc and switch if no one cares?

>>719629450
>"paypig"
>advocates for 10 million selling AAA goyslop instead of based 2-3 million selling gameplay first AA kino

No U

>>719629380
>I believe anyone who just has experience with an extreme racer in general would be capable of making a Wipeout.
You've obviously never played Pacer (formerly formula fusion). Especially as they marketed it as from some of the wipeout devs. The secret sauce that makes wipeout wipeout and good is more subtle than what most are capable of hence why BallisticNG gets the praise it does as it gets it right. Even if I would prefer it had physics like wipeout 2097 as opposed to 3 but meh, that is on me.

>>719629307
>make it retard proof
So make it a console that you can also dualboot into windows...?

>>719629260
>the ps4 pro was $399 msrp and that was also the launch price of the ps5
The PS5 launched at $499.99.

>>719629581
Yes. Normie mode and enthusiast mode

>>719622497
>hook a console up to their TV
I only want this if the console is actually plug-and-play. Console setup takes way too long now.

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>>719629540
Its not kek

>>719630042
>Xbox

>>719630110
Unfortunately read the smaller sub headline

>>719630110
Read anon! You can do it. We believe in you

>>719601990
I honestly don’t know, man, which makes me feel disappointed as shit as someone who got into PS after being a tendie kid up until high school. The only thing I can suggest is that they
>focus on putting out more double AA titles instead of trying to make a massive game that costs fucking billions to make >find some better management that ain’t filled with old retards who think trend chasing is the way to go
And I can’t see the second point happening because of Sony as a whole being filled with faggots like that since the ps3 era.

>>719601990
Games
Sadly that's a tall order for Sony