>wins over /v/Apologize
>>719603264Yeah I saw the IH video too.
>>719603264Cant disagree. All those updates and nothing is paid for except the base game. Even all the 'time limited' stuff is unlockable with mods.
>>719603264wow the game finally went from giga boring to mega boring, what a time to be alive
>Inb4 100 "WHAT DO YOU EVEN DO!?" posts by the mentally ill who need achievements, handholding and boss fights to get dopamine Lmao at their cucked consumerist lives
They could've abandoned this game on release and still have made a shit ton of cash, why do they persist? What is the endgame? Is it genuine?
>>719603264where does his motivation come from?
Why can't you customize your guy from the start?
>>719603603Customer goodwill goes a long fucking way in a post slop gaming industry. NMS was arguably the first true example of mainstream slop, yet it persists. Had they not spent these years drastically expanding on the original lies, Hello Games would've been buried.
>>719603264WOW ANOTHER EMPTY PLANET
>blatantly shills on /v/Get off my board Sean
>>719603264I suppose it's good that he followed through with the updates, but he still has yet to make the game good to play.
>>719603264>>719603842>Apologizelol the core gameplay is still walking around planets. its boring.
What did he win?
>>719603264I hope all the goodwill and lessons learned make Light no Fire a banger. I'm skeptical but still rooting for him and his game but for the love of good don't fuck it up.
>>719603264I don't have to apologize because I've always loved nms even when everyone hated it
>>719604006500 years of free expansions and dlc
>>719604006The gift of Kool-Aid! Now available in all 5 food groups! Red, urnge, green, blue and turkwise! Because you always need mo' Kool-Aid
where the fuck is light no fire
>>719603264I don't approve of this parasite. Don't make threads.
>>719603629Because they added the 3rd person view later. And 1st person is still the best way to play the game
>>719603924>shilling a 20 year old gameI doubt it
>>719604482>20 year old gameNot even close senpai
>>719604372He didn't claim "you can do some things". He made bold faced lies about the scope of the game. Fucker straight up said it was a vast open universe game where you can run into other players
>>719604748and it is
>>719604770Not outside of expeditions which are limited time events. Other than those the only time you can encounter other players is in the space anomaly station. Did you go into a coma a decade ago and miss when people exposed how full of shit Sean is or are you a shill working with an outdated script?
>>719603264Okay! I lost! I fucking lost! All of /v/ lost and YOU WON! Is that what you wanted to hear? Is it!?
Getting bored of this BG3 run so I might try NMS out again. I tried it years ago but got bored after one planet. That was after like two big updates I think. I should give it an honest try.
>>719603264when was the last time /v/ actually won?
>>719603345Bro that was like 4 years ago. Which was only 4 years after release. Things are litterally 2x engoodened
>>719605429That's not true though. You can meet people on any planet, it's just that the odds of two people being in the same place at the same time are very low, since there's like 18,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the game
>>719603947Nah. My core gameplay is being a space Jew and spending half my time doing merchant runs and the other half being a landlord. I have not used my multitool in ages
>>719605429You are working with an outdated script. That was shown on release to be false. It was one of the first things that was made true. You are like 7 years out of date
>>719604254>No on 15 > Festival Rap
>>719603591Sony money to repair their reputation. Don't forget this was a Sony first, heavily advertised game for them. The "the engoodening" narrative keeps the attention away from the complete lack of quality control from the publisher.A bit of genuine remorse. The whole studio looks like they are the type to get caught up in their own hype. So putting heads down to fix it, at least at the beginning was, I think, genuine.Prototyping for their next game. They briefly put it in the release for the new update everyone's talking about, but Light No Fire is supposed to have multiplayer boats and stuff. So iterating on tech for NMS is a sort of no risk way to put systems in front of players that they want to use in LNF and see what works and how to implement it.
>>719603264Most forced shilling campaign I've seen so far this year.
>>719604006NothingEverything
>>719606479>>719605429>Universe so big you'll never meet anyone else >We're im the same spot but we just can't see each other This will always be hilarious
>>719606893Again, that now works. It was false, like all/most of what sean said. Now it’s true, like everything sean promised. That is why it’s crazy, he actually came through and delivered on all his promises
wtf is all this shit about SIXTEEN 16 SIxTEEN 16 SIXteeeEEEEN all the fucking TIME
>>719607005>Him adding it a year later after getting backlash for making shit up means he kept his promise
>>719607005Good on him. The fact that that happened almost immediately will always be funny to me.
>>719604254I have not thought about this in more than a decade and immediately heard terkwise in my head like it was yesterday, appreciated
>>719603264I will never play this slop
>>719607084guy wasn't being a deceitful marketer, he just got too hyped about his own game and people also went crazy with the hype. now he's delivered on everything but people are still butthurt about it. never pre order anything
>>719607084Yes. It’s what I wished Todd or Molyneux would do. No one but Sean has done so. So in my eyes he gets massive credit and I would say it means he kept his promise
where are the FEET sean
>>719603264>NMS is shaping up to be everything Star Citizen promised to be with a fraction of the budget It's crazy how they turned this shit around and keep building upon it, for free i might add.
>>719607202>he wasn’t lying he was just excited
>>719603264Apologise for what? All the hate he got was completely deserved. If you buy a plain t-shirt on Amazon and it gets delivered with no sleeves and big hole in the middle do you apologise to Amazon for complaining when they send you a t-shirt with sleeves and no big hole? No, of course you fucking don't.
>>719607394it's true thoughbut I didn't play the game until recently so I can see the truth unhindered, unlike yourself
>>719607276>kept his promiseMore like forced to keep his promise
>>719603264
>>719603264Not only have I never played this shitshow, but I have made sure to never watch any gameplay. I won't support a bunch of liars, ever. I won't even pirate this shit.
>>719603264>puts out unfinished game for full price>it sucks>finishes the game 8 years later>i'm supposed to be proudKill yourself and you're lucky Hello Games didn't get the dogshit sued out of them for this stunt. If you sell someone a car they'll want it to have the doors, engine, tyres, and all that in working condition. Hello Games thinks you can just sell the framework of the car and get away with it.
>>719607550it was fine on release though. some people even prefer that version of the game over the current one
>>719603591They can learn and test a lot of things by making limited scope add-ons to an existing system. I assume all this DLC work is feeding right into their next game.
>>719607482>forcedWho forced him? I would have just taken the 100million and retired. Keep in mind he hit the sales and review score targets for the bonuses from Sony. He did not have to do this, which is why he gets credit
>>719607453It isn’t, it was just Sean making up bullshit for things that weren’t in the game.
>>719607005I'm not going to play your shitty game.
>>719607648It is. Most of the free updates come directly from the stuff they're making for their next game.
>>719607753Play the game anon. You already own it right? Surely you would not have this vitriol if you were not one the people who was burned at release due to the lies. It’s all true now anon, the space game you were so hyped for is finally real. It just took 8 years longer than you were promised
If this game is so good and "redeemed" then why are there so many obvious shills trying to defend it in this board?
>>719607550>>finishes the game 8 years later>>i'm supposed to be proudbased. the fact that actual people are happy with this is concerning and why gaming is dying.
>>719608252It was a good thing for gaming. People learned to stop pre-ordering shit. Also the game doesn't sell any DLCs, all updates and new content are given away for free.
>>719608136>It just took 8 years longer than you were promisedThat right there is the problem.
>>719608315>8 years to get to what was promised 8 years agoit's a good thing. i bow to you, king of retards
>>719608383>>719608345don't care. I didn't play it 8 years ago. It's good now and that's what I care about
>>719603264- it's still boring- it was still a lie about the game having online at release, patching it in doesn't count- if it wasn't boring i'd be mad at it for getting rid of the flavor it didn't have by hyper causlizing the elements and making them "easy to understand"
>>719608430Then stop telling people who did that it wasn’t marketed off of bullshit peddled by Murray you dipshit.
>>719608642you're mad about shit that happened a decade ago
>>719608430>don't care.>good now and that's what I care aboutactual retard. i hope more people are like you i'll release a game and promise 10,000 things and only release a jpg of a cat then sit on my millions of dollars. after a fan completes it 20 years later ill expect you to thank me.
It still feels like a grab bag of unfinished ideas. Settlements are the worst of this in that regard even after a dedicated update.People say "make your own fun" but a lot of whats in the game isn't fun. Does ANYONE actually give a shit about/enjoy the game economy, trading or crafting resources? Or settlements? Or managing fleets? Does anyone honestly bother with non-main timed expedition quests to collect googly-eyed ayy lmao heads to staple to your helmet?Its a game about exploring space, but the exploring hasn't changed. They've just added more menus to navigate in between.
>>719608669Liars like murray tend to make people who expect a finished game on release not a decade later mad yes.
>>719608829the game is super disappointing for trade economyyou have to houserule not using teleport gates in order to make the systems make sense, it's otherwise way too easy to just warp at 0 cost to buy at cheap goods place and sell at demand economy place
>>719608812>>719608909I'm playing and enjoying Songs of Syx right now, a game too complex for you to understand. And you think you can call me a casual? You're a drama addict, an internet drama addict which is even worse than an IRL drama addict. I don't care what you think or how you feel. I play video games and have fun. Deal with it.
>>719608829I enjoy settlements and trading. I am this faggot >>719606562Why do you not like settlements? Since I love them I am genuinely asking. They are tons of fun now that you can multiple.
>>719607550>check out the dozens of updates>over half of them are just adding promised content>some of the other updates are just making the content actually do anything (Settlements shouldn't have taken 8 years to be useful)>new content is shallow or copied from another game that somehow did it betterThe amount of people who jerked off Murray because of gas giants only for the gas giants to be rocky planets with storms on them fucking baffles me to this day.
>>719609006>I play video gamesAnd defend dishonest marketing.
>>719609006>a game too complex for you to understand>Deal with it.>I don't care what you think or how you feel.actual reddit user comments. this has to be some employee at the company. topic switching to insecurely acting superior and then putting words in my mouth like calling them a casual. then projects their drama addict behavior>>719608909this too.
>>719609053People don't understand that it's a sandbox game. They read the wiki and say, "I have to dump that many resources into this shit only to get 500k a day? This is a waste of time!" without realizing that it's just for fun like all video games
>>719609267Sandbox gives you something to play around with. Fun faction systems, economies to fuck with, different builds. NMS just gives you basic progression and forces you to make up a reason to give a damn. Or it offers so many shallow features hoping one of them just appeals to your specific brand of autism.
>free dlc for 9 yearsShaun is completely redeemed in my book.
>>719609101Well they wanted to feel like part of a movement. Daddy Internet Historian said it was good so its time to do the bare minimum of paying lip service to a game. If Ssethentach did this with... I dunno Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League the exact same thing would happen to that game.
>>719609006translating text...translation complete.translation: basedboy corpo cuck
>>719609403Man I want to watch Gundam now
>>719609182no redditor would have the balls to say any of those things, and if they did, they'd get banned. I have over 9 accounts permabanned on reddit. Can you say the same, BITCH
>>719603264you are a retarded subhuman shill
>>719609479Its the same thing with Louis Rossman who wants everyone to change their pfp to the paper clip. As long as something takes 0 effort and makes people feel like they're the good side, they'll do it. Thats what the entire COVID shit was about.
>>719606479I ran into 3 players in one system the other day after 50ish hours so it can't be that bad. Was pretty cool, I thought they'd pvp me but one guy gave me a billion credits worth of items.
>>719609676Were you close to the galactic center? That's where you're most likely to find other people.
>>719609267I play and love many sandbox games and games that have elements NMS adapted. I don't think that's the issue here.Like the other anon said, its shallow and unrewarding. Pretty much every aspect doesn't have a very high ceiling as far as content, its just a different flavor of busy work with no buildup or unique returns. It just exists.And most of it is indeed for the sake of money or higher tier resources (to sell or to craft further higher tier resources... to sell) but money is already easy to make any way you flick your dick. And fuck money.The only uniquely rewarding thing is exploration still, which... I'd rather they just had stuck to that. Fuck settlements, fuck fleet management, fuck the half-assed collecting of NPCs to fill your base (well, a specific room of specific size in your base).
>>719609734There are a few mods that alter planet generation and some of them are pretty good. When I play NMS I mostly just fly to different planets to check them out. Not for resources or money, just because they look cool.
>>719609591You have to go back
>>719609718I was in one of the blue dead planet galaxies after warping to a bunch using the player base teleports in the anomaly. One of the ones in the 20s I believe.
>>719609591kek. holy triggered you need some mood stabilizers. go warm up your cuck chair buddy. im sure your wife is excited to have anyone else besides you in the same room as her.im screenshotting this, this is copy pasta level. thank you for making my day. i guess your retardation does have a purpose
NMS is one of the best gaming on mushrooms experiences.>doing drugsCorrect.
>>7196035911. they actually want to be game devs and make more games. 2. maybe the main guy genuinely thought he was going to make a good game but the lies and deadlines started piling up and he oversold to put it mildly
>>719603264Make a game worth playing instead of a toddler's coloring book first.
>>719609495My village is coming along nicely
>just walk around planets gathering resources to build bases to walk around more efficiently in a randomly generated world with no specific points of interest to until you leave the planet to fly around space to find a new planet to walk around inIs that really what people wanted?
>>719610160>>719609101this.
No Man's Sky will never be good.
>>719610160>>719610794you just don't get it. You need bright colors, flashing lights, and numbers going up to enjoy anything. Your brain is where I shit and you can't enjoy anything for its own sake.When's the last time you simply went for a walk in the forest or the mountains, even the plains? Not for any reason, not to gain anything, just to do it. Are you even human?
>>719609591>I have over 9 accounts permabanned on reddit.Way to admit to being a redditor, fag. Let me guess, you couldn't fit in there so you came in here>Can you say the same BITCHNo, because I'm not a redditor like you so I don't even have a single account there, fag.
>>719603345it was probably plagiarized
>>719603264he still lied
>>719610970you're missing out. trolling on reddit is always a good time, not just because it's easy, but because of how heartfelt people are while replying to the nonsense
>>719609006If you had good tastes you'd be playing a good space sim like Underspace instead of One Man's Lie.
>>719610919>doing that with NMS aestheticsI literally have more fun driving around in unmodded GTA or checking out landscapes in unmodded minecraft. NMS fucks with scale and procgen in a way where the planets have this AI feel to them I don't like.
>>719611073>Anon thinks pretending to be a retard is trollingNo anon, it isnt. Learn to troll. You just enjoy attention at the expense of coming off stupid, like a male version of attention whore.
>>719603502This doesn't really apply any more since now we fully know what you do in this game.You point your lazer around and disappear rocks until you have enough cubes to aimlessly wander to the next place (which is functionally exactly the same as the last place).
>>719603264This is how I feel when people who say FF 15 is good now. I refuse to believe any amount of patches/dlc can make that game interesting from when I played it at launch.
>>719603591Hello Games genuinely wants to be respected and beloved in the industry. They made their money on release but they're a laughing stock at best and despised at worst, may as well be blacklisted in the industry. The only logical explanation for what happened after the horrendous release is that they genuinely do love being devs and love the game they made and don't want this to be the last thing they ever made. Their plan did work out in the end, now they have another game lined up and people are excited for it, they arent one and done
>>719611286It's not attention whoring if it's anonymous on a disposable account. You have a point that being retarded is low tier trolling, but that's about as far as you can go on reddit without getting banned before anyone has time to reply to your bait.
>>719611141That one looked good. Is it a full game or more about the exploration?
>>719603502is there a story in this game?
>>719611620kinda. you figure out the origin of the universe and all life in it
>>719610919Yeah, I don't get it. Walking around for the purpose of walking around doesn't sound like something you need a video game to do. As you said it yourself, you can just go outside, live in the moment, enjoy the scenery. If you enjoy NMS good for you, but I just don't understand the appeal.
>>719610919>bright colors, flashing lights, and numbers going upThat is quite literally what this game is.
>>719603264i actually don't understand how their business model of free DLCs is sustainable, did they really make that much money on release or are all other devs just robbing us
>>719611945>are all other devs just robbing usIt's this.
>>719608669Because history is being rewritten to make Murray seem like an underdog instead of grifting scammer
game is ok now if you like gathering resources I guess. bought the game awhile ago for dirt cheap and finally decided to get on board, once I was free of the frankly way too long tutorial and got used to do the dogshit UI going around and finding stuff/research modules so I can build a base In a little mountain with a totally hollow center I've been having a decent time. the new ship stuff is super pricey though, I'm getting like 1 part per salvaged piece of shit I'm finding and scrapping.
>>719611847Do you ever figure out why every planet and system is a copy-paste with a wallmart and footlocker?
>>719612026yes, actually.
>>719607453>>but I didn't play the game until recentlythen shut the fuck up retard. no one cares about your dumbass opinion, you werent there for all the lies
>>719612076Imagine staying mad for a decade about a video game.It's fun now, I don't care about you being mad 10 years ago.
>>719612125retard. go play it then dumbass
>>719612075Is the reason space-Jews?
>>719611445It's a full fledged RPG.
>>719603264Still haven't played his game or the cheap Bethesda copy>>719611307But enough about Minecraft
>>719612203No, but maybe. the entire universe is something made up by an AI that's about to get shut down, in 16 minutes, for fucking it up and not making the optimal outcome, and that AI keeps resetting itself and trying to do better so it doesn't get erased but it isn't working. Every player/traveler is an entity created by the AI to explore and appreciate what it made
>>719610894You seen the gacha shit half this board """plays""" these days?
I knew NMS was going to flop before it came out because of starbound bought it after it was "engoodend" and it's still ass game sux
>>719612381So Sean Murray is the literal Demiurge.Nice.
>>719611445It's a full game but exploration plays a role as well. It's currently early access but it's more of less feature complete. Campaign's done and fully playable, all the ships, systems, equipment, etc. are all in the game. The main things the devs have left to do before the 1.0 release are implementing multiplayer and free play, recording voice acting for dialogue, replacing a bunch of text to speech placeholders for some dialogue, bug fixing, and improving the visuals.
>>719611445It's basically Freelancer/Privateer 2 with cosmic horror elements. It's story driven but at the same time you can freely engage in trade, take on jobs for cash to buy new ships and equipment for said ships. There's some exploration involved in that you're often encouraged to go off the beaten path to tackle storms and look for anomalies like ancient gates instead of just using the transit rings to get from one area to the next.
Any other good settlement management games that aren't ONLY settlement management? No 2D spriteslop either.
>>719612956not good but fallout 4 exists. might be able to mod it into a halfway decent state but I'd be lying if I said I'd tried very hard
>>719612582>and improving the visualsThey said with today's patch the game's pretty much going to look like how it already looks.
>>719612856>There's some exploration involvedlol it is way more of an exploration game than it is anything else. You can't get any of the good items unless you explore and fight bosses
>>719613139Yeah that's the only one I can think of but it's extremely barebones and pointless. Looking for something more in-depth with economy what stuff like that, but I don't want to just play a sim-game like rollercoaster tycoon.
>>719613139>>719613361Is the settlement system in shartfield any better?
>>719613361I know pathfinder kingmaker's whole deal is that you manage the kingdom while doing bogstandard CRPG questing and whatnot but I haven't heard many good things about the kingdom management stuff in general, but I haven't actually played it myself yet. I've only played like half of Wrath of the Righteous, and that game's whole management minigame is a super scuffed Heroes of Might and Magic.
>>719610160What is Minecraft?
>>719613504Minecraft is far more interesting with all types of physics and blocks. Each resource feels more valuable to get, a lot of unique items that build on each other or connect to a different system. Minecraft does with one block what NMS fails to do with any of its systems.
>>719613468Worse. It's more barebones and doesn't really function right.
>>719609591lol what a loser
>>719613501The kingdom management in Kingmaker is not very expansive. That game was good because it's a good CRPG.
Made this today, use as you see fit
>>719613169They're going to be adding furry sex to the game next though
>>719603264i'm not apologizing over a game that gets boring in the first five minutes you redditor
>>719609403Literally me
>>719603264Soundtrack was legit amazing, but spending a hundred hours into this game was a mistake
>>719603264Wow, I can build a custom ship now, too bad the game is still a boring piece of shit with 0 interesting activities
>>719603264bullshit, you want a real breakdown of this game?>play after the big 'we fixed it, game good now' update>get bored after 2~3 hours>stick it out>get 20~25 hours in>realise... its not getting good>game isnt good, game is significantly better than it was before but the game is still bad>going from a 1/10 to a 4/10 is a 400% improvement, but its still boring slop>another 'major' update drops>brother wants to play>do a coop playthrough>get like 35 hours in>still boring, still not a good game, better? sure but its still a polished turd>leave the game for years>/v/ starts shilling it again>know it will be the same story>but for the sake of honesty and brevity, play it anyway>its STILL boring, still a bunch of disjointed mechanics that dont work together cohesively but just are slapped on top of each other>game still looks bad>planets still load ugly even on the highest settings on a top of the line rig>no mechanical cohesionlook, no one can say I didnt give it a fair shot. 100+ hours into a game I dont even enjoy trying to give it a chance. face facts, /v/, its slopyou only like it because>muh media said its good>social prescence / hype making you want to fit in>the 'redemption arc' narrativeif this came out today as it is, youd write it off as boring slop.Youre sheep.
>>719603591I guess the sentinels are just clocking in at this point
>>719613739hoo boy
>>719603264>that's a pretty cool game you have there, but unfortunately, it's no Skyrim
>>719607550>unmarked early access on AAA games bad>unmarked early access on ""indie"" games... le good
>>719607276>Todd or Molyneuxboth made couple of incredible games. sean is still on his fiest game which is kinda mid.
>>719619095The irony is that it is kinda Skyrim, if you're the type to play it just to chill a little. I once did this after installing some emote mods and had the same experience I'm having with NMS.
>>719607005>allNo, there's still some missing stuff, but if they improve the creature AI this game would be a pretty complete experience, right now it's asset flip tier. Since they'll probably have animals on their next game, I hope for some future dlc fixing this
>>719611934Kek yes I thought anon was trolling
>>719607378It's closer to what Starfield promised.https://youtu.be/cNN5m4SOGiA
>>719603502>needing video games to get dopamineSo glad I quit video games 12 years ago lmfao
How did they fucked ship controls so bad? It's half the game and it's a mess, if it was fun to fly this game would be so kino
>>719617508>100 hoursIt really only clicks after 200 hours
I'm having fun with it.I always check it whenever there's a major update, but the corvette one really pulled me in, now I'm exploring all the new features for the last updates
>>719622551>Quit video games 12 years ago>still browses /v/Hmmm...
>>719603264How is this game on VR?
>>719623579>rape in self-defenseWhat?
>>719603264>putting more makeup on the pigWhen will it be enough? It will never be a good game. Focus on Light No Fire instead, at least then you have a chance.
>>719623579
>>719603264Why does he always wear the same old fart shirt?
>>719623579Was he really?
>>719623659fRaid so.
How good is the stuff outside of the rock grinding?Can i interact with other factions in any fun way?Can i become a space cowboy and hunt bounties?Can i become a space pirate and become the bounty?Can i work as a merc and do missions for them?Can i work as a space smuggler and transport cargo from one station to another?Please dont tell me the game is just landing on empty planets and building lego houses.
>>719611945They've sold millions of copies post launch because of the free updates.
>>719623579KWAB
>>719603264>>719603264v just loves bbcbig brit cock
>>719623579It's the only way I play it. It's the only space game that's not indie-tier where you can seamlessly go from planet to space in your ship and in VR it's mindblowing.The game is designed to be played when sitting down so there's not that much wagglan required.
>>719623848Started playing yesterday and I've done all that, but I don't think the game "recognizes" it, you just do it yourself
>>719623848>Can i interact with other factions in any fun way?no, just the usual "do X activity and I give you friendpoints" stuff like do some scanning, fight a pirate, go to a location and get some item etc>Can i become a space cowboy and hunt bounties?yes and no, not really. Theres no real space bounty hunter or space cop role in the game, but you can jump from system to system until you find a bad pirate, shoot them, and repeat. its more or less roleplay>Can i become a space pirate and become the bounty?no and yes again, same story, you can be a dick and just shoot people, and you will be hostile to all the factions so they will be hostile on sight. but they wont send a bounty hunter after you or anything.>Can i work as a merc and do missions for them?not really, see above. Sometimes theres one off missions you can take to fight someone but theres not a job role that specifically is a merc for hire. youre more like a prostitute, going door to door asking if theyve got work for you.>Can i work as a space smuggler and transport cargo from one station to another?yes, in fact if you play on "scarce" merchant settings, some items become rare and more limited and others are removed from shops all together, this actually makes this more useful to you as a player and also more profitable being a space delivery man. Buy low sell high.cool, but gets old since theres no nuance to it, go from station with high X and go to station with low X. Come back with Y, repeat.
i shot rocks with my mining beam for around 10 minutes and got bored. is this seriously what most of the gameplay is?
>>719624019>The game is designed to be played when sitting downsoldhave VR but cant be fucked to move the PC to the room anymore, and my desk is just to crowded.im not going to rearange the room for it to work in the bedroom so ive let my VR gather dust so far.bet my VR sickness is bad again, took weeks on weeks to get over it kek
>>719603924You WILL play my gameHAHAHHAHA
>>719624227Sounds pretty boring, to be honest
>>719612352>But enough about MinecraftNever understood why nms retards wanna be compared to minecraft?Your game looks even worse. Can You build interesting structures in NMS?No.Can you actually modify terrain in an interesting way in NMS?No.Just the simple task of guiding water in a ditch in minecraft is leagues aboves NMS terrain terraforming.I have no words..
>>719624447Ive seen some redditors even comparing it to Terraria, which is insane.
>>719606562Trade is dogshit in NMS and it has less landlord options than a flash game.
>>719624447>Can You build interesting structures in NMS?Yes.>Can you actually modify terrain in an interesting way in NMS?Yes.Both of these are untrue for MC btwNext question
d : hello, test
>>719603264is the gameplay actually good or is it still boring slop? is there even any combat?
>>719624604It's an IQ check. If you are bellow 130 don't play
>>719624540>Yes.No, see i can do the same thing. But at least a minecraft fan could post his dick castle or something.>Yes.Both of these are untrue for MC btwNext questionSo i can't dig a ditch in MC to guide water into whatever i want?And i can do this in NMS?Are you even trying?
>>7196129567 days to die is pretty good in the base building department.The building is kinda like minecraft meeta rust with every wood block being upgradeable from stone, to cement, to hardened metal. The ground is also fully destructible and you can use shovels to dig trenches and kill pits but it takes a while
>>719624676>if you are autistic play itokay not going to waste my time.
>>719624723
>save freighter from enemy spaceships >captain invites me on board>expect to get small reward of credits >literally hands over the keys to his giant freighter, all the cargo, and everybody working insidewhat in the Skyrim is this?
>>719625050
>>719625051Kek I remember that one
>>719625056He knows his ships deserve better
>>719624824>only autistic people have high iq
>>719625056it's just the introduction to freighters, you gotta pay up if you want cooler ones (unless you take over a pirate freighter which are a million times cooler than regular ones)
>>719625056"We owe you our lives! Me and my men will serve at your pleasure!"Real honourable shit.
>>719624604yes but the combat is dogshit and very buggythe main point of the game is still space sandbox collectathon shit
>>719603264>>wins over /v/Alex, I'll take 'Stuff that never happened' for 500.
>>719623579Merry KWABmas!
One of the most soulless exploration games out there
>>719626261list the non soulless exploration games
>>719626316Abiotic factorMinecraft (the microsoft updates are NMS tier soulless as well, all "wow a different coloured mob/block!" that adds nothing to the game) GroundedSubnauticaEnshrouded
>>719626462pff hahah
>>719626316NTA. I don't even like these types of games but I saw some footage of Elite Dangerous and it looked interesting to fly around space.
>>719626491Absolutely bootyblasted
>>719610983It was probably paid for.
>>719611073It is kinda funny when you see someone just make up the most outrageous story and instead of everyone calling it fake and gay they actually take it seriously. It reminds me of Facebook boomers honestly.
>>719626462>the microsoft updates are NMS tier soulless as well, all "wow a different coloured mob/block!" that adds nothing to the gameThe last update added seamless ship interiors, which persist in space and even allow for space walks. This is all substance, with style emergent from it.
Do gay orbs still follow you around for farting in space or whatever
>>719607005he's the anti todd howard. >There actually is 16 times the detail!
>>719610983>plagiarizedFound HBombertroon
>>719603264Redemption begins with admitting fault. He never admitted fault. He's a scammer and he always will be. Looking forward to the next release.
>>719603264>lies>puts out a terrible trailer showing a terrible game>lies>somehow convinces people that his terrible game that is obviously shit is actually good>lies>releases a terrible game>lies>puts out some patches for a terrible game>lies>game is still terrible>lies>gets rich because people are retarded and never stopped falling for his lies>lies
>>719626782So what's he lied about in the last 4 years?
>>719607063The universe is a simulation thats shutting down in 16 seconds. The atlas is an ai within this simulation hyper calculating how to avoid this so time within the simulation is being stretched out.
>>719603591Well firstly there would have been legal issues if they just cut and ran. Secondly Murray would have to move into a different career completely and probably change his identity since a simple google search would show that he's that guy who famously scammed a bunch of people. It's purely about survival, he doesn't regret the scam he just wishes he didn't get the controversy.
>>719626782you talking about sean or todd?
>>719626839The game being good. He shills on /v/ 24/7 saying the game is now good even though it's the same ugly barebones nothing-game it was on release except they shoehorned in multiplayer or something.
>>719619564What a dishonest post.
>>719626912cope
>>719626912So you can't find a lie that he's told and instead need to say that Sean is in this thread shilling.
>>719626907Obviously not. At least Todd puts out trailers that look good. No Man's Sky never looked good. I do not understand how mentally ill ''people'' looked at anything pre-release and got hyped for this game. It looked like some freeware slop where some indie company figured out random generation algorithms for the first time. All they had to show was that the world gets generated as you explore it, like minecraft.All the Sean Murray's lies were terrible. It's not even shit that makes you want to play the game>duuude, we made our own periodic table!>duuude, it's a multiplayer game.... but you will never see another player as it's not mathematically possibleThe lies were not even good. At least Todd lies that the AI is really sophisticated.
>>719603264I still remember the lies he dished out about it>yeah it totally has online bro... trust me bro... the world is just so big that nobody will ever meet eachother>game launches with no online features at all, 0 networkinglolAlso the shit about them having their own table of elements to simulate the color of water and shit like that. Yeah I'm sure it's not just a texture swap or RGB value. It's not even that he lied, it's that he got away with it. Faggot literally singlehandedly set the industry precedent that you can just lie about shit in your game in advertising and it won't really bite you in the ass at all.
>>719607202He was by definition a deceitful marketer. It's not even deniable, he straight up lied about so much shit. He pretended that multiplayer was in the game on the actual day of release. How is that "getting overexcited?" He continued with his bare-faced lies until he literally couldn't deny it anymore. Then went radio silent for like a year. Such an innocent guy...
>>719626912the game is objectively several orders of magnitude better than it was on release, retard
>>719607453"I was 10 when it came out but I watched a YouTube video and now I'm an expert."
I bought it and I think the beginning/tutorial is one of the most unfun new player experiences I've gone through in a while. Running around scrapping together shit to fix my ship, I get it in the air and it is some of the worst floaty ship controls I've used in quite a while, seemed even worse when in-atmosphere. After that the tutorial wants me to make a base and throw four walls and a roof together and in the process I start getting harassed by robots. I use my shitty deconstructor laser to kill them and then a second wave of them shows up while I'm trying to craft a roof and these ones don't seem killable with my starter laser so I get in my ship and fly away, only to be chased down by the same robots but in spaceships, and after killing two or three of them (while dealing with aforementioned shitty ship controls, the combat didn't feel any better) I just said fuck it refunded the game. There may be a good game to be found after that, but I'm not gonna slog through to find out. It's a shame, because when I saw that eventually you can get bioships it piqued my interest but I doubt they're worth the experience getting them will entail.
So, which youtuber did he pay this time?
>>719603264its so fucking loudeverything is so loud >stand next to shopping computerentire fuckign desk vibrates and theres just 3 volume settings, voice, music and SOUNDSthe whole soundscape is just so fucking cluttered and busy, its the opposite of comfy
Ack
>>719609101Murray has this weird cult of personality among a particular brand of autists who struggle to understand personal responsibility. I guarantee if he was some ugly fat guy saying exactly the same shit he would be universally hated and blacklisted from the industry. His loveable autist persona is a very effective shield.
>>719627131By the time the game out it was already industry standard to release bad unfinished games and then patch them later. They've done studies on this and found that you can give someone inferior product and they will be more satisfied if they get small improvements to the bad product.People are more happy to get a 2/10 game like No Man's Sky and wait 10 years for it to get patched into a 4/10 game, than if they just released a 10/10 game on day 1.In many industries they fuck up things on purpose so they can increase customer satisfaction by then repairing the damage. It makes the customer more invested with the product and company and spend more time with them.
>>719627186Kill yourself trans freak
>>719603264>lies through his teeth about everything>disaster launch>shows that, given enough time of you publishing low quality trash content, you will simply filter out everyone with a brain and at some point the only people left in your game will be those who are sub 80 IQ to enjoy and praise trashgoycattle
>>719607202profoundly brown
>>719612012I fear this narrative has already become the prevailing one. It's infuriating.
>>719627331I'm only really saying that he helped popularize the "just flat out lie about shit" approach to markettingThe division also did I guess. The fucking trailer that was clearly completely fucking animated, not played, with voice actors pretending to be players on top of it. And then the game comes out and it's nothing like it and retarded lobotomites had nothing better to say than>HUH? IT GOT DOWNGRADED? no you nigger cattle you believed an obvious pre-rendered video because it said "actual in-engine footage" or "running on real ps4 hardware" which translates to "our engine can play mp4 files"
>>719624417>every time he lies he laughs maniacally>yup, this is what a trustworthy guy looks like
>>719627331Doesn't work on me thankfully. I guess there's enough retards in the world to make it a viable strategy though.
I want the gaming industry to crash so hard it will cause a global economic breakdown and kickstart ww3
>>719626462LolLmao even
>>719627981Kill the entire industry because someone decides to update their game for 8 years instead of abandoning it when the launch doesn't meet expectations?
>>719603264I might check it out after being disappointed with starfield but isn't this game just endless grinding for better minerals and gear?Not sure how you can improve that
>>719628254it's about exploring, not an rpg like starfield. If you want an rpg or a game that constantly tells you what to do you will be disappointed
>>719624743kek
>>719624743Asymmetrical bullshit, why bother building like that?
>>719603264They keep adding more to the game but it is still boring somehow.
There are bigger publishers and developers who did worse than Hello Games and /v/ hasn't given them half the vitriol they've given Sean. At least you know which targets to pick.
>>719629428How are gaymers supposed to take on big companies like EA and blizzard if they can't even stop sucking off Sean Murray and can't defeat such a disgusting lying scammer?>oy vey, there are bigger pests do deal with, don't even think about the rats in your home, there are giant venomous snakes in Australia
>>719625050>>719625096There's two kinds of autismOne which compels you to build something like the ColosseumAnd another which prevents you from building shit like this because you know you have to use the snapping feature so everything lines perfectly and boy the snapping in this game's pretty fucking bad
If they completely rework animals, improve ship controls and give players a RGB wheel for customization I'd call it kino
>>719603264the amount of seethe this game gets on v is quite sadim glad it clicked with me so i can enjoy it
>>719608315>People learned
>>719629930He was considered a scammer 7 years ago when the game didn't deliver anything promised. He could have left it and ran with the money.Instead there's been constant free updates to live up to those old expectations. The whole thing is the opposite of a scam.
>>719609006>indefinite early access management slopYeah no wonder you like NMS.
>>719630193Tranny cope. Still a scammer. Made millions off lies. Tricked morons like you into thinking he is some saint because he patched in some features 10 years later. Yet the game is still terrible.You can't even get this guy's dick out of your mouth and you want to take on EA.I am supposed to praise some guy who made a terrible game because he no longer has to work and just gets to put out small mods for a terrible game. He can live the rest of his life comfortably with strategically released small patches to a game that isn't even good.>The phenomenon where a company's frequent small fixes for a poor product lead to higher customer satisfaction, even when the overall quality remains low, is often referred to as the "Sisyphus effect" or "paradox of progress.">Here's a breakdown of the key psychological principles at play:>Effort Justification: When customers invest time and effort in a product (by downloading patches, reporting bugs, etc.), they may justify that effort by overvaluing the product. It's a form of cognitive dissonance reduction.>The IKEA Effect: Similar to the effort justification, people tend to value things more when they've had a hand in their creation or improvement. The feeling of "helping" the company fix the product can increase perceived ownership and satisfaction.>The Illusion of Progress: The frequent, visible updates give customers a sense of forward momentum. They see the company "working on it," which can be more reassuring than a single, delayed major fix. This creates the illusion that the company is highly responsive and dedicated, even if the underlying product is flawed.>The "We Care" Signal: The company's frequent interaction through patches sends a powerful social signal that they are listening and care about their customers. This builds a feeling of partnership and trust, which can outweigh the frustration of a bad product.
>>719630595All that stuff and you can't post a single lie he's told in the last 5 years
>>719603264I liked when they received a Game Award in 2020 or something and camera switched to Sean drinking beer and he had no speech prepared, that was funny
>>719630193>freeThe company or this game's development doesn't run on redemption energy. They're still porting and selling the game and getting funding.This approach did help them recover financially, because had they tried to sell these updates/expansions instead, their rep would just get even worse, nobody would buy them, and HG would have shut down years ago.
>>719630693More tranny cope. He doesn't verbally lie anymore because he no longer communicates.He lies with his actions and abuses a known psychological phenomena to trick morons like you into praising him.None of the features he added to the game are changing the core issues with the game. They are pushed only so you get reminded of the game every few months when steam asks you to update it. It gives you a false sense of a scammer caring about you and the game getting better as they are just spinning their wheels in place adding content that took a few hours to make.
>>719630975>recover financiallyThey never had financial problems.They were funded by Sony and due to the lies they sold an insane amount of copies. The game kept selling well because most people don't follow this shit. Then the game exploded in sales when they paid Internet Historian to promote it.They were never at a loss. This has been their money cow and it would make no sense to not put out updates for it.
>>719603264Fine I'll reinstall, are any of the procgen overhaul mods like "Better Planet Generation" good? My biggest complaint by far was that I started to recognize animal body parts and trees before I visited my tenth planet
lol no
>>719630975No shit the companies being funded along with whatever they get from actual game sales. But for the consumer who already owns the games, free is accurate. I've never paid for an update.>>719631087Yet you still can't find a single lie in the years since all these updates started coming out.
>>719603264The game is still not where I thought it would be when it released. Not interested.
>>719630193>He could have left it and ran with the money.Haha no. Why do you retards keep insisting he could have done that? It was their first big release so obviously they couldn't just leave it as is with their reputation deep in the shitter. Getting future publishing deals and actually selling their games would have been a nightmare because they were considered con artists. As for Sean himself, the backlash that came as a direct result of his lies was so big the studio was actually receiving death threats. If he'd just taken the money and run he could kiss any professional relationship he had built with the other developers plus they probably would have started looking for shit to take him to court. Sony probably would have started looking to do the same thing with Hello Games, kind of like how investors sued CD Projekt for Cyberpunk.You're a naive retard if you genuinely believe that Sean didn't take the money and run because he's passionate about the game. It's because it'd be harder to make bullshitting people into buying his future games harder down the road and because his colleagues and Sony would probably look for ways to pursue legal action against him and score some big fat settlements out of him if he didn't.
>>719603264He’s still a con artist who sold a game on false premises. The fact that they slowly patched in content years later which was promised to have been in the game on launch does not suddenly justify his fraudulent advertisement
>>719631283You are so fucking retarded
>>719631283his small team made enough money to be set for a very long timeUpdating the game was a bigger risk than running with the money
>>719610121>increase food servings...>just a little>80 stones
>>719625567No man's sky?
>>719631194>They never had financial problems.They would have them, had they just tried to blatantly scam people again.
i'm just glad they made gas planets a thingnever expected full ship cutsomization
>>719632130Looking at the planet in the background and the engine trails, yes.
>>719632181>>719625567Pretty sweet. It's got a nice WH40k Imperium look to it.
>early NMS release>Sean going full idea guy with wild promises>didn't preorder because I'm not retarded>forget about it since it looked like an EA scam>a few years later the game is fixed>buy it and enjoy new features as they comeHow easy it is when you're not retarded.
>release game>it's shit, overhyped and everyone calls it out for being shit>sometime later the update the game>update barely adds anything'>everyone praises the game like the best thing everI never understood this
Why do people constantly use the launch state of a game as their basis of judgement instead of the most recent update.Anyone new getting the game today wouldn't care how it used to be. It's not just No Mans Sky either. You get people in random threads shit talking games from their first release when much of the content has changed, refined or even been removed in the years following.
>>719632429>barely adds anything'another day of lyingbro just drown in hateseethe seeeeeeethe
>>719632483because they are perfect and cant forgive nor forget the weakness of others /s
>>719632483>wooow, why do people judge the game for the 2/10 game it was at release instead of 2.5/10 game it is now??? can't they realize the game has been slightly updated in the past 10 years?
>>719632429Simple, they pay youtubers and streamers to shill and people are morons.NMS is not even a game at this point, until they interconnect and make what they added matter it's just a big ad campaign for something that is still vaporware. Right now playing NMS is like playing a dead mmo.
more stuff out of their ass719632909bro /v/ is fucking deadis all hate npcs
>>719632909Just when you think you've seen the dumbest post on here, something new comes up.Vaporware outright means it's not for sale.
>>719632130Yes, and coolest part is you can walk on it mid flight in space
>>719633070>software or hardware that has been advertised but is not yet available to buy, either because it is only a concept or because it is still being written or designed.The game as advertised is still only a concept and not purchasable
>>719633284New levels of doubling down
>outright lie about all kinds of features in your game>people get mad>add base building and cars>REDEMPTION ARC REDEMPTION ARCNah fuck all that and fuck rock clicker
Anyone enjoying Voyagers so far? I made a basic corvette and am having fun with it. It's cool being able to haul my friends around. But I have no idea how to deal with my freighter while using one. You only get to dock outside, but there's no way to float inside?
>>719633697everytime you dock you can use a button on the exit to teleport
>>719633070The game they announced still isn't there. At this point NMS is more a concept than a game.It's all about advertising how the game is finished when all you can do in game is see how unfinished and shallow everything is and say "it will be good later surely".It's all about getting other suckers to pay for it and for their next game to not flop.
>>719623579Having fun with it in VR. DLSS 4 and some other optimizations have made it run better as of late. Interactive cockpits for everything are cool. My main gripes are that the HUD doesn't actually follow your head so you need to face the same direction. And they sort of broke the quick menus so you need to stop your ship before accessing them. I hope they fix that.
>>719633759So what's missing from the original announcement?
>>719603502Yeah, games generally need some kind of substantive content to be fun. Consider taking your meds.
>>719633896it doesnt matter if something is missing or notthis retards have a hate boner and will continueuntil they die from a stroke
>>719633896Still like half of Seans lie listMost notably it still isn't massively multiplayer
What hoops do I need to jump through to start making these things
>>719633896Good gameplay
>>719634242I'm curious too. I wish there were more color options for corvettes.
>>719633896Even if it's not missing, everything feels like it's made for toddlers with 0 depth. Phone games have more gameplay.
>>719634363That was never promised.
>>719634242i hear salvageable scrap planets are the best place to get that ball rolling but idk for sure
>>719612381>>719612518Kinda sortaBasically Atlas is running multiple simulations of various universes at once, his creator, which is some one outside of the computer/AI he is running, made him to do this but something is wrong with him, basically think of what happens when you leave your computer running for like a month straight and everything starts running like shit and crashing all the time. Atlas does not know what to do, so ATLAS started trying to make more simulations of universes to simulate its creator so that it could fix himself. You, the traveler, are the simulation of ATLAS's creator which is why you go to the center to try and give him the ol turn it off and on again treatment. Atlas of course being an AI is kinda terrorfied with the idea of being shut off, and all the various simulated life is also shitting their pants becuse they dont know what happens when you get turned off either, they assume you just die. So you also have to deal with the existential crisis of. "Holy shit, am i real? do i even matter?" Insert René Descartes I think therefore I am. The story has been getting rolled out over a long period of time from what i have been reading so for all we know we will get more context to it and possibly a resolution were the traveler, you, basically tells atlas, hey hit the save button before you reboot and we should all come right back up online.
None of the previous updates had that many threads about NMS, especially for an entire fucking week. Im fairly certain that even hardcore NMS or IH fans dont really care about the game that much to keep the threads for so long, nor does the game have that much content to discuss.With the amount of repeated shit i am reading here, and the fact that these threads come at basically a schedule makes me think this retard just makes them himself to bait people in and jerk off his raging hateboner from seeing people come and try to correct him, which might also be him because masturbation does not need a partner.Mental fucking illness.
>>719634545Also INB4 we get a expantion called SALTA where the creator of the system ends up making a always on fail over cluster of atlas so that he can bounce it between various computers so atlas stops shitting itself.
>>719634634The game hit it's second highest peak of all time
>>719633759>The game they announced still isn't there.>>719634461>Even if it's not missing everything....Great arguments being put forward today, you're really justifying ignoring years of updates here.
>>719624743what does the atlas button do
>>719603264Still won't play your space slop.
>>719603264is the game still unplayable?
>>719634242lmao
>>719635047fuck off we are full
I wish you dickless freaks wouldn't shill this shitty game every time it adds a new time sink crafting route. the gameplay fucking sucks
>>719634634The new update is a big thing, people love spaceships and customization, also it's the only good part of Starfield and they just btfo'd Todd lol
>>719610983this comment was probably plagiarized.
>>719632130No! Mans, sky
>Still no on-foot pirate enemies despite killing them in the millions in a starship>Still no away-team of humanoid AI crew that follow you and fight hostiles/collect resources >Latest settlement update proved they know how to implement crew stats for humanoid companions and make them fight enemies too>Yet the galaxy remains without on-foot npcs outside of stationsI won't respect Hello Games until they can prove they are capable of making humanoid NPCs move and act appropriately compared to the rest of the game.It's actually fucking ridiculous that roaming on-foot pirates don't exist yet.WHEN I HUNT BOUNTIES THEY SHOULD BE SOME RANDOM CUNT IN A RANDOM SETTLEMENT NOT THE SAME GODDAMN STARSHIP EVERY TIMEIT'S SOME SERIOUS BULLSHIT
>custom ship building on the latest update>can hang out with your friends inside it with different roles and act as a baseuhhh, can anyone tell me what the fuck star citizen is doing that will be any different for it to be taking this long? it doesn't feel like there's anything left that NMS hasn't implemented already
>>719635491Multiplayer is gay.Give me a team of AI Korvax using the stats system from the latest settlement update. WHERE IS MY AWAY-TEAM FEATURE, SEAN?
>>719635491They're still trying to use CryEngine lmao. Thats why its taking forever and is still riddled with embarrassing bugs.Also who shuts off a money printer? They STILL have a retarded boomer defense force that runs out and buys new jpegs of ships regularly.
>>719635478So far this is a big complaint of mine is that we dont have humanoid entities, we will are stuck with just stupid fucking bots and animals.
>>719635478you are the only one of all the retards hating on this thread that said something worthi hope they make npcs better
HAS NO ONE MADE A BEBOP YET?
>>719636364Parts are expensive and hard to find.I haven't even built a corvette yet.
>>719635478I think it's a concept issue, they seem to be actively avoiding adding action to the game to keep it being le wholesome peaceful exploration. And I agree it would be a great improvement over the boredom of the current gameplay, like just make it really rare if that's the problem.
>>719636503If you wanna be a looser you can set it to creative mode, i dont advise this but you can.
>>719636503>>719636364most ships on reddit are made with free building enabled
>>719609403Techland have done this for dying light 1 and 2
>>719635047>anime image>braindead questionLike clockwork
>>719636578I dont really understand their hellbent ambition to avoid action/combat since it seems like that content is the most popular out there. It does not take much either is the thing. What irks me too is that if you pay attention to the lore/story of the game, bro its pretty fucked up and grim what the various races do to each other so i mean just adding some onfoot combat is not that big of a deal in the core aspect of the game.I mean Gek Literally enslaved and melted down the robots for their parts.The robots literally bleed themselves into the spawning pools of the Gek to perform eugenics on them. The Warrior race i cant type their name out correctly, just fucking fight and kill everything.
>>719626889Legal issues? What the fuck are you talking about? Some of you retards are so fucking stupid it hurts. Nothing illegal about making a bad game. There was no legal ramifications they could have possibly faced. Please kill yourself.
>>719607550The game isn't finished, it's still shit. Every update is a half assed apology so people can't say he lied but there's no actual heart or thinking behind any of it. It's just endless check boxes being ticked, features that are boring and lead to nothing but were promised at one point.
>>719632429>barely adds anything Lmao ok
>>719625567Insane
>>719626462LMAOOOOOO are you 12?
>>719634802And those people are playing it, not posting about it on /v
>>719625056My same reaction when it happened to me lmao, but I get it's for you to understand and see what freighter ships are about
>>719635491maybe because star citizen is trying to be an actual game? I had more fun with some shitty flight module SC released 8 years ago than the entirety of NMS. I'm not defending SC since it's vapour ware but the flight model and combat in NMS feel like the type of shit an Indian in a unity YouTube tutorial would make.
>>719624743I imagine that thing is fucking huge
>>719624295Do the missions you fucking retard, they will show you all the shit you can do
>>719624295i wont even deny the first like...2 hours of the game fucking SUCK hard. But it picks up as it goes on. Its not with out its faults but its pretty interesting and entertaining Ill admit. The potential is relaly there and if HG keeps up at this pace they could make the space game that people have failed to make for decades finally fucking happen.
>>719637201>maybe because star citizen is trying to be an actual gameThe only thing they are trying to be is the biggest scam in history
Question, assuming I've either bought or found the parts to build a corvetteDoes it cost money to build on top of that?
>>719637439NMS isn't far behind, I already told you I had more fun with a 2 year old star citizen build than a 10 year old NMS build.
i would've probably been all over this shit when i was like 10, i tried playing it but it was boring as fuck
>>719637554because you are retarded
>>719603264He lied and he's simply trying to recover what's left of his reputation.
>>719636836nta but probably false advertisingSaying the game has online multiplayer when it doesn't...
>>719637603Yeah, wanting real gameplay is retarded. Just look at this sea of boring randomly generated slop and clap and the bright colours. Dumb monkey.
>>719603264wow.... a bigger puddle.... gaming is saved
>>719637603NMS babby seething because his game is literal jank supreme with animations coded by brown children
>>719637736SC looks way fucking cooler than NMS could ever hope to be, even with the fact you can buy shit with real money lol it doesn’t look like a pedophiles playground with all those heckin wacky colors and basically no actual gameplay
>>719603264I don't know who that is or what he did do.Unironically qrd us or fuck off.
>>719637554>NMS isn't far behindYeah, you are just a retard trying to cope with the fact that got scammed. Also, you are not talking to just one person, retard.
>>719637809cope
Reminder SC raised 1 BILLION dollars in donations and has been in development for 13 years.The result?A buggy alpha playtestSC drones are the biggest retards in gaming
>>719637936I felt more scammed buying NMS this year than the 30 dollars I spent on SC 10 years ago. Atleast I have ignorance to blame for my SC purchase, I knew NMS was shit but I fell for the scam anyway
Do this game have quests introducing mechanics or should I just know? I see people who just started playing talking about settlements, freighters and corvettes and I don't even have a car yet
>All this SC vs NMS>Which one is the biggest scam>Which one actually has game playListen faggots, all of you, each game is serviceable in its own right because each one prioritizes different aspects of game place and both have different approaches. SC has a bottom up approach, they focused on detail and what you actually do in the game before they get a working established macro game play IE things like a massive galaxy and what not. NMS focused on a top down, meaning the forced on the framework of the game IE the macro first like a working galaxy and core aspects of the game, then are adding in the details post.SC looks for combat and RPG like elementsNMS is more exploration focused Both are fine and for different people.You are both literally just 2 retards fighting over which scam artist is better then the other.
>>719607084It's already been proven he wasn't "making shit up" he's just an autistic retard that didn't conprehend you can't make speculative statements about a game you're developing unless it's a feature that is literally already complete. He's not a PR guy and didn't understand that when someone asks if something is possible in your game, you CANNOT say "Yes it's possible. I don't see why we couldn't do that." without clarifying it isn't even remotely in the game. Yeah it's "possible", jackass. Anything is. But there's a finite specific list of features you need to clarify instead of daydreaming in an interview.Sean Murray genuinely believed he could spitball ideas to the public and they wouldn't take it as honest declarations of features. When it released and everyone on Earth called him a liar, it broke him to the point he refuses to abandon the game until every single idea discussed before release is implemented. He didn't lie.He's autistic and stupid.The intent matters.
>>719603264>ApologizeNot until he does.
>>719603264>Releases shit unfinished game>Sells miniscule fixes as DLC>Shills want us to apologize to him
>>719638276sells?And how do you sell a free update?
>>719638112Do what the game tells you?There is an on rails tutorial to show you how to build a settlement and eventually a freighter and all that shit. ITs boring and hours long, but it leads you by the hand through all of that.
>>719638175NMS is exploration focused but the exploration is boring, therefore it's shit. The novelty of visiting a new planet disappears immediately, on your 3rd or 4th planet hop you realise it's meaningless procedurally generated noise and that you've seen 95% of what any planet has to offer within 60 seconds of landing on it. SC is a shitty broken scam but the ship combat was fun when I messed with it like a decade ago.
>>719638420You have to pay for the game in order to play the "free" updates retard.
>>719632176>glad they made gas giants a thingWhy? To me that's one of the biggest disappointments. It's just stormy planets with very little added and are blocked off by lame travel requirements.
>Initially it seemed like it was never going to be good>Now it seems like it is never going to be finishedHow many times are people's empires going to be destroyed with a world gen update?How many times will players lose their homeworld?How many times will a massive collection of bugs be injected into the game because of a new game system?How long will this game be in development?I refuse to play it until it's finished. Which is looking like never at the moment. They clearly have no idea how to make everything cohesive since half the features are almost meaningless and noticably lacking polish.
>>719638619>you've seen 95% of what any planet has to offer within 60 seconds of landing on itYeah it's extremely shallow, planets should have multiple biomes with different fauna, flora and resources each. As it is it doesn't really make sense to explore anything.
>>719609101>The amount of people who jerked off Murray because of gas giants only for the gas giants to be rocky planets with storms on them fucking baffles me to this day.no fucking way.surely you are shitposting and this is not actually the case
>>719638626I've already paid for the game. Anything additional is considered free. This has always been the case for any game with post launch updates that aren't paid for.The specific distinction of cost is important.
>>719603264No, you get an apology for doing what you said you would in the first place.
>>719635231>>719634802Yes i know that, but i was talking about the possible hateboner schizo who seems to want to fuck Sean or some shit.
>>719639015Im not the hate boner anon, but i had a chip on my shoulder with sean and the entire way NMS was handled but even ill admit, that they stuck through with it and actually fixed a lot of the issues of the game, and are continuing ot add to it. As someone who just enjoys flying through space and exploring, i for one like it.
>>719638880So you payed for an incomplete game and are celebrating when the devs slowly add the stuff they already promised? Man you shills are delusional.Btw, Starfield already has literally everything NMS is slowly adding.
>>719639390No I got the game about 2 years ago when it looked like they delivered on their original promises. There's been at least 6 title updates since then.
>>719638626That's not even remotely similar to "selling miniscule DLC"No owner of the game has ever once spent a penny on any of the updates.Do you just not fully know english?
>payed
>>719638853No the planets just need to vary more.Trees are all basically the same height. They occur in basically the same patterns and rate. Which is annoyingly sparce making every planet feel kind of barren.Fauna has like 2 patterns of behavior.There is always medium, small and large rock formation and flora. 2-3 variants of hazardous plants and 2-6 cave rock and cave flora variants.Even if a planet has water it occurs in the same weird archipelago pattern every time, so you don't really get oceans. Each planet doesn't need multiple biomes, but planets should feel like they have different biomes, instead of just recolouring the same one over and over. Bascially the procgen needs more variation on the actual rates and patterns of things on the surface so you can't immediately tell the planet is using the same procgen algorithm as the last 20 you visited.There ARE a few interesting planet types, but they mostly just plop down a random "exciting" feature in the midst of what I talked about above. Like the giant cubes or floating rocks. Its just a giant cube randomly interspersed amongst the exact same small bunches of 10 trees and random rock formations.
>>719638626>buying a game is badthis might be the most /v/ opinion i've seen in awhile
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>>719639390Starfield does not have alien races to interact with.
>>719639660Aye the planet generation is kinda mid. What really wild is that there is another game, Empyrion Galactic survival, which has really good planet generation IMO but has a shit ton of other issues as well. Hell if I could get the flight combat of ED, the mechanics of NMS, and the enemies/structure/generation of Empyrion, fuck that would be amazing.
>>719639846neither starfield or this game lets you fuck cute aliens they are both pretty shitwhy can't anyone copy mass effect
>>719603461Weird how I’ve been bored for 85 hours now.
>>719604436Weird, I started playing last year and 3rd person is the default view.
>>719603264On behalf of /v/ I sincerely apologize
>>719610983you plagiarized my comment.
>>719639846Starfield isn't in the convo anymore. That game is dead and most view it as a complete failiure.
>>719639390>Starfield already has literally everything NMS is slowly addingBethesda really does have the worst fans in all of video games. It's profoundly insane to say something this blatantly biased and willfully ignorant.
A big issue i see people have with NMS is the "its boring" which ok yeah it is, there is not a lot of dedicated shit to do, its a sandbox its like Minecraft. You need to make a goal for yourself and progress toward it, the game is you making your own intentions made up. LIke for me, my goal is to max out and geta S class capital ship, then jump to the edge of the galaxy as far as i can go, basically this games version of Beagle point, and then make a bar called "The bar at the end."
>>719639484>>719639507Samefagging shill going hard lmao. So if someone sells you 5% of a game up front, do you celebrate and brag when he drip feeds you another 5%? NMS still doesn't have a fraction of the shit they promised.Again, Starfield has everything NMS promised but you retards will probably say it's shit because "Bethesda le bad"
>>719603264I just hope LNF becomes the most robuts survival base builder game so all lazy fucking devs that make all the others starve. I swear every survival base builder game just tries to get one good mechanic and then try to coast off the hype for the rest of their fucking lives. The most egregious example being Valheim
this ship is so goofy i dont even want to expand it.
>>719640229I dont think he is doing that, he is saying that >They sold a shit game at first.>Yeras later its now ~90% of the game they promised.>That alone is worth praise becuase were most would just abandoned it, HG at least followed through with what they wanted which not a lot do. THAT is worth praise, but launching a 5% gamae is not. Also >Starfield.LOL if your going to make a point, dont use star field, that game is fucking dog shit, cant even land your own ships its auto piloted, crappy game play, bullet sponges, shitty copy paste cells when you land, that game actually is shit.
>>719634847years of updates and it's still complete garbage
>>719608669you shouldn't be so blaze anon. You should hold contempt for people when they lie to you, otherwise they'll happily do it again and again. You shouldn't hate Murray, but you should understand that he's a known liar, and you should use that information to further your opinion of his products and of him.Only a fool steps in the beartrap twice.
>>719640229What part of buying it 2 years ago do you find difficult.It had 6 years of updates before that and I was satisfied with what I played. Getting another 2 years with multiple free updates is far more than what I expected.Sheer desperation that no only multiple people could think this way but that the game isn't how it is at launch. I don't give a shit about how it was before I played it, I'm playing todays version.
>>719638626>durr they are selling DLC>No they are free updates for anyone who owns the game>durr you have to buy the game so they aren't free though>HURRR literally making the game better is just a marketing scheme to sell more copies Goddamn this is one of the most retarded takes I've ever seen in my entire life.It's like my ex-girlfriend. I mentioned while watching a movie that everyone dies someday and her sincere response was "YOU DON'T KNOW THAT"
>>719640598Shes right though
>>719640139Minecraft has the added benefit of being 3d pixel art, if you could not build with the level of detail they let you, it would be a very boring game. A few pre generated structures to stick on an empty planet does not make your boring ass game the next minecraft.
i still have this saved on my pc. dunno why. ive never played the game lol
>>719640448NTA but i did hold contempt for them, they lied and got caught doing it and every one shit on them for it.And guess what? They built trust back up over the years by fixing there shit, im impressed with them agian. Where most devs would have walked away with the bags and called it a day, at least HG stuck to it for 10 years and actually delivered what they originally intended, that much i have to say im impressed with. If you lie and do nothing to correct and make amends for it, then yeah your a scum, but if you lie, and then actually put effort into to fix it, i cant NOT have application for that. I bought the game about a week ago, and i gotta admit im impressed with it, and hope they keep it up because im having a good time at least.
Are the rumours...true?
>>719637268Not even close to the biggest ships in the game, but big enough to consider them as bases
>>719638175Exploration without conquest or adversity is just completely unfulfilling.If I wanted this kind of boring shit I could just open google maps or go outside.
>>719638104mid cope, try harder
Do the corvettes let you lean into different playstyles, ie making one more of a mobile base and another minmaxed for combat? I'm having a hard time finding most of the components right now.
>>719634890It deducts one.
>>719640756That the games being "played" yes, Its being botted by him and sony to promote his upcoming game.
>>719638863Check out the wiki or check out some reddit posts about how disappointed people are with gas giants. It's stormy scorched planets that actually have less content than normal plants, including no plants or animals, harder to navigate due to high gravity almost killing jet pack use, limited fishing and very little to mine there while always draining your environmental protection. For what? Storm crystals? Oh dont worry though, theyre very big so theres lots of hard mode nothing to explore. They are legitimately the worst planet type and a testament to how NMS can't even get the scale or majesty of space right. Minecraft biomes have more of an identity.
>>719638191You know, Molyneux was a liar but at least his games were good.Sean can't make a good game after working 10 years on it, he's as good as some weg dev on patreon.
i haven't played this game since like 2021, re-installing right now, what am i in for? i think i completed the "story" where you eventually get to pick a new universe, and i had exotic ships and such.
>>719641270you're in for the same game you've played all those years ago with slightly more bloat
>>719638863you wanted realistic gas giants so you couldn't land on them?
>>719641324so its still fun?
>>719641417nuh uh
>>719641417Depends are you able to set goals for yourself for htings you would find enjoyable? Do you already have maxed out everything? If you can give your self a goal and or have things to grind, it will be fun, if you cant do that, then you will be bored.
>>719640139Rimworld is a sandbox game but at least building and managing a base is instantly fun.In NMS you have to grind for hours to have two minutes of fun.
>>719641360>new aliens>fun storm navigation mechanics>crazy weather like on actual gas giants>oceans of chemicals like on actual gas giants>items unique to gas giants>difficulty entering a gas giant so flying around it or into it is a fun challenge>aerial harvesters for the chemicals and materials in the storms>layers of storms with land floating in themLiterally anything. Gas giants was hyped to hell and back by NMSfags and it felt like an after thought.
What is Todd thinking about right now?
>>719641645i enjoyed having an idea for a base on a specific type of planet and the loop of gathering materials and for that activity, if it has more of that involving buildable ships and the like i will probably enjoy it. are there a lot of new biomes and buildable things?
>>719640139Minecraft is a world where you want to have fun. Having actual challenges to overcome, biomes with distinct items, items that have unique physical properties and uses, POIs that absolutely shit all over NMS'. Minecraft makes mounting a horse feeling better than mounting any alien you'll find. 5 pieces of iron feel better than 100 pieces of copper in NMS. A single biome in Minecraft contains more and does more than 10 planets combined in NMS.
>>719640130Remind me how long ago NMS added custom ship building. And I will remind you that Starfield had that on DAY 1.>>719640390>that game is fucking dog shitThanks for proving my point. You only think that because some shitty youtuber like Asmongold told you to.>>719640484>2 years agoSo you buyed 8% of a game instead of 5%. Congrats bro, you got scammed and are thanking NMS for it lmao.>>719640598You don't have an ex girlfriend.
>>719607550This. Why didn't he delay 8 years?
i remember back in the day people were making these bases, that extended all the way to basically the atmosphere up in space, but the devs considered this a bug or something and made it impossible. it was basically the coolest thing you could do in the game and they got rid of it.
>>719641853>"Massive, revolutionary update">Constant shilling across the internet>Can't even crack 100K playersAbsolute kek
>>719641853"I should have paid youtubers to say my shit game is fixed"
>>719641021Lmao.Are you the Larian Chinese guy?People think ship building is neat and there's not a lot of new games out right now, so they're checking out a game they had sitting around on Steam.Everyone is Lego Spaceship guy at heart. We all just want to build a spaceship.The hype will die back down in a few days. This won't even last a full month. The game is fun, but only for a little bit at a time, because there isn't much but trade autism and base building in the game to keep you around long term
>>719641853Happy I'm sure. Other games can update and instead of their fans playing them all people think about is Starfield. That's obsession you just can't pay for; people cucking themselves. Play NMS in your custom corvette and still Starfield haunts you.
>>719641951>Thanks for proving my point. You only think that because some shitty youtuber like Asmongold told you to.No i think that because it is boring, Bethesda basically was banking on people treating it like Skyrim and having mods do the heavy lifting but they forgot that the only reaosn people modded skyrim was because it was a good game at its core.
Why is this so true for space sim games?
>>719642048Yeah, it's not like it was incredible shilled everywhere and still flopped
>>719642045Uh oh, the Bethesda troon is madYour game lost and got raped
>>719641951>hate's one game with such passion that he uses starfield to make his argumentStarfields ship building is basic blocks too, you can't make anything close to this
>>719642304So just like NMS.
>>719642445>NMS is a rick and morty space game >Starfield sticks to strict rocketpunk aesthesticsNTA but I don't want that kind of ship in Starfield though. That ship works in NMS. Just like how NMS doesn't need the shitty story it has meanwhile even Starfield has a more cohesive setting with way better combat and story.
>>719642684lolnms ship builder clears saarfield
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so the corvettes are more customizable frigates? do they have hangar bays for other ships too?
>>719642928For the outer part of the ships I agree. For interiors? Not close. The decor and design is still top notch in Starfield. Gameplay wise? Starfield still has better ship combat, actual difficulty, better ways to get ship parts. Overall I'd say both games are focusing on what makes them different but NMS seriously needs more uses for ships.
>>719603264I feel like the only people that hated it the most were Star Citizen cultists that still don't have a working game
>>719643069>>719642985>>719642928Are corvettes just chunkier starships that you can walk around in? How do they fair in combat? >>719643134>Starfield has better ship combat.>ED Slaps your starfield on the ass, and knows you wont do shit about it.
Can you fit a exocraft into a corvette? Because i would LOVE if i could have like a single exo craft in a corvette either the minotar or the buggy would be great, that way i dont need to lug my freighter everywhere i go.
>>719643183yesbtw you can't do that in starfield, nor can you seamlessly enter/exit planets atmosphere, fly freely in the atmosphere, and land wherever you wantyou also can't dive underwater and build huge ocean bases underwater on ocean planets
>>719643183>can't defend NMS ship combat>just jumps to using ED as a defenseGuess I can use ED to say the same thing about NMS. Oops!
>>719642095>Are you the Larian Chinese guy?No I'm the guy who correctly pointed out that BG3 was one of the most botted games in history.
>>719642462yea NMS flopped so hard they made 40 free DLCs for it
>>719643332I mean ED space combat is kinda one above all at this point. That shit was on lock. I just like to meme about it. >>719643296Ok this is pretty fucking cool. Now if only i could take a exocraft on it, also they need to hurry the fuck up and let you upload corvettes, becuase i suck at designing them.
>>719642162>BoringPure irony that you would call Starfield boring while it has a better story, world, planets, combat, weapons, characters, ships, ship building and base building than NMS. Hell, NMS doesn't even have most of these things.>>719642408>Starfield peak is way higher than NMS. That means NMS le wins!!!Retard.>>719642445Why the hell would I want a ocean ship in space? Are you actually retarded? Go play a Disney game.
>>719643478Kek basedAll free btw
>>719641951I have multiple ex-girlfriends and the one I mentioned was both ugly and fat.
>>719643563>Why the hell would I want a ocean ship in space?Captain Harlock larping
>>719643563Imagine crashing out this fucking hard over people saying starfield is worse then NMS. Holy fuck dude there are so many hills you could chose to die on and you pick this one?
>>719643563It's to demonstrate the versatility of customisation. It feels good to be able to make what you want instead of varying grey bricks with engines attached.
>>719643708>The SS Feel Good Inc.
>>719642040The inability to make base literally anywhere you want is pretty gay. Skyborne or orbital bases should be a feature.
question for people who play NMSare there FOMO cosmetics that you can't obtain anymore and such or can somebody just play for the first time now and obtain anything else people have that have been playing the past 10 years?
>the space games are fighting again!!!Why does this always happen? None of them do half of their content right.
>responding to the starfield troll
>>719643791From what i understand....kinda? I guess some time expeditions (community events that have cosmetics) comes back around every so often so you cna get another shot at them.That said, i have been told that you can just mod said cosmetics into the game, since the game has no premium currency there is really no issue with it.
>>719611307>disappear rocks til you have enough cubesWhat the fuck are you talking about? What cubes?
>>719643663You're an incel, you don't have any ex girlfriends besides your hand.>starfield is worse then NMSBecause it's not true? Do you care about truth or only do you care about lies? Starfield had everything NMS still lacks on DAY 1. You didn't need to wait 10 years for ship building in Starfield. It's simply a better game, like it or not. Just accept the facts and move on.
>>719643708Based la creatividad haver
>>719643813Its the curse of space sims. No one space sim can do it all, they only get one aspect of space sim right then fuck everything else up. Its like the philosophers stone of video games.
>>719643624See >>719609101Most of these updates are a fucking joke. Why did it take them 8 years to update the settlement feature just for it to still be worse than Fallout 4's settlements?
>>719643708>Look mom I made a floating island! Remind me how bad NMS combat is. In the Starfield you have unlimited cool weapons. In NMS you have... le rocks?
>>719643478If you look at the steam chart it flopped as much as starflop.And as much as I hate Bethesda they have nothing to prove compared to hello games so no incentive to fix their shit.See you in 30 DLCs when the game will be fixed, surely.
>>719643990>rockets>Pulse lasers>Beam lasers>Gattling canons>Rail guns effectivly.>Plasma blasters Cmon anon, at least do the base research first.
>>719644021the game has 91% positive review ratioStarfield is at 50%
>>719643893>Starfield had everything NMS still lacks on DAY 1Can I seamlessly enter/exit planets, land on them freely wherever I want, fly in the atmosphere with my ship in Saarfield?
>>719603264It's good that they put so much effort into it but the game is still just a bland sandbox with nothing to do.
>>719644021>Bethesda literally takes a shit on a plate then expects you to pay for it. >HG shits the bed and then proceeds to clean it up and replace the bedWhy am i mean to be upset at HG again? Like yeah both of them fucked up, but at least one of them is trying to fix it, they should not have shit the bed to begin with but at least ill give them credit for fixing it. or trying to.
>>719644107NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO NO DELETE THIS YOU FUCKING BENCHODSAARFIELD IS BEST SIR
>>719643130you can't fly frigates
>>719643990Easy. NMS combat is great because most aliens have no combat data and just run squealing. Only the same template of aliens or the handful of unique aliens that only provide a problem due to swarming you. You can make unique builds like "buy weapon that just kills everything" or "craft weapon that just kills everything". You probably mean ship combat huh? With zero upgrades you can destroy freighters and wipe out high level sentinel bosses. So....ready to gear the fuck up Traveler?
>>719603264Buy an ad
>>719643990>missing the reference entirely
>>719644123>Bunch of pointless shitAnd this is why no one takes NMS seriously. You brag about a bunch of useless features no one cares about. Starfield is a much smoother experience because you don't waste the precious time watching your ship descend to every planet. It's way cleaner, just click where you want to go and BAM you are there. Now you have more time to do the stuff you want to do. You're basically bragging about a horse being better than a car because you have to feed your horse and pick up his shit.
>>719603264>no female spacesuitHow am I supposed to self insert?
>hype and promise best space game of all time>cut nearly all the content and even graphical nature that was shown in tech demos>slowly add back what was promised over the course of half a decade>OMG SEAN IS SO GOOD TO USLiteral sheep, and people wonder why AAA games get away with charging $80 now
>>719644369Not for self insert but a sexy spacesuit would be nice
>>719644107I was obviously talking about the launch period, esl retard. I said "it flopped", not that it's a flop now.
>>719603461seems like you're boring my man
>>719644107>the game has 91% positive review ratio>Starfield is at 50%Yes that's called using bots to review bomb your competitors.
>>719603603he made enough money to fund his company and his lifestyle for the next 60 yearshe finally had the ability to do what he wanted to doAND it's a great test bed for features for new games like that Light My Fire game
>>719644360>space game>entering and exiting planets seamlessly, being able to land anywhere>pointlessSAARFIELD IS BEST SIR
>>719643708Do you have a pic of the epsteins island corvettePlebbit removed it
>>719643791You can just edit your save and get all of them. I don't mind having to do expeditions as they are fun, but I hate Twitch drops so I added those in. NMS not being GAAS slop will always make it better than Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen in my eyes.
>>719644457You said the game needs 30+ more dlcs to be good. I pointed out it's sitting at a very good review rating
>>719644565SAAR, DO NOT REVIEW!
>>719644394Can you imagine if Skyrim was like that? Can you imagine if we got>faction update (add factions and storyline)>faction improvement update (now includes radiant ai quests, characters that say stuff after quests are done)>perk tree update>perk tree upgrade (now we have 10 perks per tree instead of 3. Really expands the game)>Blacksmith update (introducing craftable weapons)>Mines update (now there are mines as dungeon types, you can even mine now)>Destruction update (dualcasting now implemented, new tier of spells)>Crime Update (now you can steal and get in trouble)>Main Quest update (now you can access quests beyond the first dragon fight! Now includes dragon fights all over skyrim)People would shit themselves in sheer fucking rage. But apparently this is how you become a herom
>>719644612>STARFIELD IS BESTI'm glad you agreed. And yes those things are pointless because they just waste your time. I'd pick Starfield's system any day in the week. At least in Starfield you can hang out with interesting characters instead of all alone in NMS.
>>719644153Both are the same price and both are shit, but at least with starflop you didn't have to wait 10 years for a shit game.I think Bethesda wins.Hello Games can be better if their next game is not shit from the start.
>>719644823>you didn't have to wait 10 years for a shit game.Anon, i...
>>719644797So true sar, so true
>>719644706Well there is a difference between ratings and a game being good. One is an aggregate and the other hinges on me having fun. I'm not having fun in NMS so I can't say it's good, other people saying it is doesn't change that fact.
>>719644778Your argument involves removing stuff from an existing game because every other actual example is other games doing the exact same thing NMS has done.I suppose Terraria should have always had hardmode and the years worth of updates at launch too?TF2 should have had payload at launch along with a multitude of weapons for every single class.
>>719644946Yup, 10 years ans it's still shit.
>>719645186Yeah, Starfield just had to wait 5 years to deliver a shit with no improvements to it
>>719645186Anon, you can it shit all you want all day every day.It's still better than Saarfield and Scam Citizen.
>>719644778>faction update (add factions and storyline)Literally dawnguard>Mines update (now there are mines as dungeon types, you can even mine now)Literally hearthfireSkyrim only got one proper dlc
>>719645114Not really. NMS was barely a game when it came out and was missing a lot of what could be considered a $60 game or match what they advertised. So yeah most of its updates was actually finishing the game. While later updates like Worlds 2 and Voyager do add bonus content, they're still doing shit like the settlement update just to make shit more than an unfinished, forgotten feature.
>NMS and starfield fag are one and the same anon trying to keep his thread alive
>>719645186If it was actually shit you would like it, Rajeesh
>>719641853NMS is proof that you can keep updating a game and people will come around to it eventually. Starfield is on release a way better game than NMS so it'll take them a bit to update the game and fix issues while adding new gameplay systems to fix things. Honestly I'm happy that good space games like starfield and NMS exists and the devs are passionate enough to keep working on them.
>>719645424>have to misread this hard just to lie and feel betterBelieve it or not, might be an obscure gamer secret, but Skyrim had factions and mines beforehand. Also you could mine before hearthfire. This is strange. Every thread it just seems like NMSfags don't understand what gameplay is or is supposed to feel like. You have to explain basic concepts to them every time. Why is that?
>>719645369Idk about SC, it's barely better than SF tho.
Is it finally good?
>>719645558Back at you, Pajeet.
>>719645554This isn't really fun discussion. It's deluded bethesdrones vs battered Murray wives. Then again I suppose being retarded would explain all this.
>>719643130No they are much smaller and can't hold other starships.They are more like a mini-base that can go wherever you want.Their intent is to make interplanetary travel a better experience that feels less like a glorified loading screen. Also giving the player a truly custom starship instead of a modulized "retail car with swapped parts" ship.They are also the second step of prep work for the away-team update where you can have a squad of on-foot NPCs follow you around instead of just pets and starships. The corvette will be how you transport them between planets and freighters while keeping the separate pre-existing flight squadron. The first step of prep work was introducing NPC stats and combat AI for settlements. The away team update will also introduce on-foot pirates.If I told you how I know this, you wouldn't believe me.
>>719645684No
>>719645684No. You can now have a cool ship to take to worthless planets to do your worthless quests and gather your worthless rocks. It's like driving an Aston Martin to your 12 hour septic tank repair job.
>>719603264>entire patch is just adding a giant ship with no purpose other than uhh building it and decorating itand that's enough for people to shill it to death? lol, lmao, top kek even
>>719643130They are frigates you can actually fly.You're thinking of freighters.Also no you can't dock ships onto them. Hence the new class denomination.
>>719645684It's been good since 2018
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