>wholesome 100 chungus man who hates scams, extortion, prostitution, kidnapping, drug trafficking and murder really wants to be part of an origanized crime familywho writes this shit?
>>719603867Kojima
>>719603867you should see the writing in the rest of the series
>>719603867When Kiryu was a yakuza he did debt collection. Not any of the shit you listed
>>719604045>the man who I beat within an inch of his life and left for dead in a puddle of his own blood... died!?
>>719603867he has a very japanese style of honor where loyalty itself and sticking to his ideals is much more important than who he's loyal to or what the actual ideals are. Like, in his world view sticking loyally to the most evil boss imaginable is more noble than turning on your boss for being evil
>>719604045That's quite literally extortion, most often for protection money.
Remember that part in Yakuza 1 where Kiryu grabs an innocent bystander to use as a human shield to avoid being shot?
When the fuck will Directors Cut be ported. My autism won't let me skip entries.
>>719603867Yakuza is slop for Fujos so of course it's shit
>>719604669>entrynigger it's a port with like 2 shitty extra cutscenes (cutscenes the game is better off with not having)
>>719606513My friend (male) likes them too though. Although he is roommates with a man who claims that he is not, so not rhe sharpest tool
>>719606574They're going to do DEs of 4-6. May as well wait.
>>719603867That's not Niko Bellic
>>719606574curious how 0fags suddenly don't want people to start with 0 anymore now that the definitive version is on a fisher price tablet
>>719604509you mean that Jingweon member that was ALSO a child molester disguised as a random waiter that ALSO got shot with rubber bullets so he didn't actually die?Yeah
>>719609034He engaged in all that shit and then regretted it, but he is not fundamentally against it or stopping people from perpetuating these activities.
The Yakuza franchise clearly has ties to the actual Yakuza and is basically whitewashing propaganda. There's also a ton of shilling of products and other cross promotion. Reminder that Kiryu smokes constantly throughout the series but then gets cancer because he inhaled some "myserious chemical" lmao
>>719603867Play at least 1(one) Yakuza game, faggot
>>719604123>"No, Impossible! i've onky beaten him to half death twice, he shouldn't be dead!"
>>719610657The degradation happens from 5 onwards though.
>>719609190meds
>>719603867Yakuza 1 Kiryu wasn’t like that, he just got flanderized
>>719603867Developers who don't want to get murdered by organized crime members.
>>719613715Yakuza have no power left in 2025Now, if they criticized african and muslim “youth” gangs…
>>719603867It’s been a while so correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it because he feels indebted to Kazama for raising him and basically being his guardian growing up? Similar for Ichiban with Arakawa, to an extent as one of his guardians.
>>719610554He smoke real brand cigaretThe studio get money for it
Listen, the Yakuza series really soft balls its depiction of organized crime. Don't expect anything realistic out of it. It isn't some kind of Japanese Mafia. It's not even Japanese GTA. It's not going for any kind of realistic depiction of crime. It's campy martial arts melodrama to which the underworld setting is kind of incidental.
>>719613776They have the ability to ask fanartists to be "polite" to horse porn makers. That's not to be underestimated.
>>719603867>who writes this shit?Kino enjoyers
the ichiban games fucking suck
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>>719604123his fists were blanks
>>719603867It’s propaganda OP. The yakuza literally pays people to glamorize their organizations I would be surprised if they had some influence here. They control a lot of the Japanese entertainment indusryc
>>719609034Niko is a self professed scumbag and war criminal. Never pretended to have honor
>>719614679>The yakuza literally pays people to glamorize their organizationswell it's working. the yakuza is badass
>>719610554This. Organized mafia LOVE these kinds of puff pieces where they’re portrayed as cool morally grey badasses when in reality most of what they do involves selling women for sex, selling drugs to addicts, and beating the shit out of and potentially killing desperate poor people. All organized crime is fundamentally evil
>>719613776They do have power, but they mostly engage in white collar crime/prostitution/gambling and rarely kill people directly anymore. If you’re in a red light district of a Japanese city there’s for sure a yakuza presence there
>>719614779The yakuza are fat boomers who employee Zanichi Koreans to do their dirty work because no Japanese man under 30 respects them anymore
>>719614984sounds based to me desu
>>719614847I see why Ralph Bakshi went so hard against them
>>719615060Not really, their main source of income is pimping out Asian women, both Japanese and imported from the Philippines/China/Korea, to foreigners to fuck them. They’re cucks
>>719615362Small hat on small hat violence
I know Tonegawa middle management blue isn't to be taken seriously but the slice of life wholesome format of a show that's about depicting the life of loan sharks and black market managers tied to the Kaiji manga in which they are relentless psychopaths is weird. Was it also influenced by yakuza scumbags?
Yakuza are different from other organized crime because there's a nationalist element to them. Similar to the Triads in China. In the West mafias arose from lack of powerful/trustworthy authorities, in Asia it seems to be more about codifying outsider groups, like Burakumin and Koreans.
>>719604295Kiryu is the world's biggest dumbass and thinks he's literally collecting debt
>>719615827You should be more polite to the gokudou kai. But of COURSE there's influence there. You don't think the people who made fucking AKAGI of all things are 100 percent disconnected from these groups? Here's a subtle but obvious one. Try looking up Kodansha and Yakuza. See what you get. You'll get a bunch of book titles, because that's what's filled the search results instead of any discussion about their ties.
>>719610041>disguised>rubber bulletsIf you think that this has any relevence to the point being made then I have no faith that you could understand the explanation as to why you're wrong
Yakuza mostly prey on how polite and unwilling to make a fuss the average Japanese person is and use that to extort businesses and abuse people. They're cowards that mostly rely on social pressure with nothing to back it up. The murder of Juzo Itami in a desperate attempt to regain clout after being made fun of is proof of this. Also they're mostly korean.
>>719615976>Yakuza are different from other organized crime because there's a nationalist element to themThan why is half their ranks full of Zanichi Koreans and why do they employ Nigerians as bouncers and to sell drugs? It’s all bullshit anon. Gang members don’t actually believe in anything but money and staying out of prison
>>719616526Wouldn't be like this if the government didn't stab them in the back
>>719616596>The government doing it's literal job and stamping out crime is... le bad!!
>>719614847You actually barely ever play as a Yakuza in these games, despite the title. Throughout the entire series, spanning 9 games, you're in the yakuza for about 40 minutes - 1.5 hours maybe. Yakuzas are constantly villains in the series and portrayed as sex traffickers / extortionists.
>>719616526The yakuza helped rebuild the country after ww2
>>719616626After literally asking the criminals for help, yeah. They had a good symbiotic thing going and then the government decided to bolster it's own public image by cracking down on a group that had ostensibly been on their side
>went to Japan for 3 weeks >didn't see a single yakuza/Street thug>not a single street brawl Yakuza lied to me
>>719604045He's still part of an organization that does all of those other things.
>>719616526Doesn't really change a thing. Zainichi have a complicated history with Japan and Japanese nationalism. In a way the Yakuza are a way for them to become Japanese. Chinese Triads controlled opium dens, a drug that ruined China, but also organized groups to resist foreign occupation. Meanwhile the Italian mafia joined with the Americans to help them invade their homeland.
>>719616753>He's still part of an organization that does all of those other things.He isn't. Kiryu is in the yakuza for maybe 40 minutes throughout the entire series.
>>719616720>>719616596>Yes little girl, we know you’re being sold to a greasy old man to deflower you at age 14 but we can’t do anything because your yakuza pimp donates thousands of yen to a charity and itd be mean to crack down on them!This is how all criminal organizations work retard. They do this to get people on their side. They aren’t your friend. They’re criminals who rape, assault, and even murder people.
>>719616739I saw one when I visited, he was sitting in a little folding chair outside what I assume was a little backalley whoerhouse. I gave him a little thumbs up and he did not reciprocate, just quietly looked at me until I was out of sight.
>>719616853Did a yakuza fuck your girlfriend or something?
>>719616853The same could be said of governments really. It's just a matter of scale.
>>719616916No, I just hate criminals and am glad when they get crushed.
>>719616739They are hiding behind the endless crowds of pakistanis and africans
>>719616853It goes beyond that dipshit, the government outright enlisted the yakuza to literally guard foreign dignitaries. They had a good thing going.
Kiryu just wants to emulate his father figure and as time goes on he ends up reaching the obvious conclusion of "wait organized crime is evil and I don't like it actually"
>>719617016He doesn't care if it's evil, he just wants to be able to sit back and not be crucial to it's continued operation. He still wants his old crime family to keep doing crimes while he raises some orphans
Kiryu is just a rubber man in a rubber world
IMMA READY GO TONIGHTTHERE'S A PARTY ALRIGHT
>>719617201I'm going to become the Yakuza King!
>>719617130kiryu's final boss before he became old and cancer-riddled was a guy who jerked off the yakuza dream the same way he did and he told him that the dream wasn't worth shit if it was built on the backs of exploited everyday people (which it is)idk why it took that long to get there after yakuza 0 but he got there
>>719610229He never regret this. Obviously no one here played the game and op sucks bad. He loves yakuza and loves what they are doing.
>>719617524>the game its a series of games. 0 is a prequel. People are talking about the actual development of the character, not the prequel
>>719616664>Series where you can manage Hostess Clubs and even features irl JAV stars>Bro its not trying to glamorize the Yakuza at all!Uh-huh
>>719617873>Game has women in it>This "glamorizes the yakuza"ok incel
>>719617972Yeah that's exactly how it worksStraight people understand this
>>719603867
>>719618513kek
>>719618513680844571 got the timeline fucked up. He only ever joined because his adoptive father was a Yakuza. There was no pretension about "being a good person". The "carving your own path in life" thing was by the end of yakuza 1, when he was named the third chairman but immediately resigned and ended his life as a yakuza. And he never goes on about "being a good person" ever anyways. He never even says that he won't kill, he even explicitly calls out a goon in Yakuza 5 who "thought they said Kiryu doesn't kill". Some people think Kiryu has some sort of "strict good guy code" because that's his reputation as a non-anti-hero protagonist in a game series about the yakuza, when no such thing is the case.
>>719603867He doesn't hate prostitution, he wholeheartedly accepts and encourages it.
>>719616753>yet you participate in society, curious
>>719623436Nigger, the difference is Kiryu actively wants to be in the yakuza although he knows they do all that shit. He CHOOSES to be a yakuza he could be doing anything, Kazama straight up tells him to fuck off and be a civiliian before he joins the yakuza.
You "people" think like women. Kiryu, as a man, knows a man gotta do what a man gotta do.
>>719623825Obviously the "FUCKING PROSTITUTES IS RAPE!!" crowd is woman-brained.
Japanese culture is so cucked you can't have a gritty crime drama about the Yakuza so it has to be some immature, silly shit instead.
>>719623930>t. hasn't played Daiakuji
>>719623896I mean, you cant in modern yakuza games, not anymore>>719623989 Who?
>>719617205imagine going to a dance club and not racing tiny cars with sweaty nerds in a random basement
>>719603867Literally the perfect man, learn to be like him faggot
>>719621057Well? Has he killed?
>>719624319ThisHe doesnt silence women but upholds them and listensHe isnt afraid to sacrifice himself to open glass ceilings for women and oppressed immigrant folxAnd he doesn’t ask anything in return, he lets the love of his life go to america to rediscover herself, because he is a better man
If someone says the story of literally any game is good, they're retarded. It's that simple.
>>719604206This isn't healthy for anyone
>>719624830We Europeans stopped being like that and look where it got usJapan also abandoned honor and now half of tokyo is a ghetto
>>719604123rubber beating
>>719624363No, and in fact Akiyama calls him out in 6 for even considering it
>>719624114>you cant in modern yakuza games, not anymoreWhy? Do bitcoin mining Korean gangs roam the streets of Yokohama IRL, clashing with mask wearing assassin gangs from China? No? Then you don't need to be realistic with your depiction of Japanese gangs either
Is there a video game that actually tries to depict a more realistic interpretation of being in the yakuza? Like a narrative focused Mafia/GTA-like yakuza game or a yakuza management simulator
>organized crime>organized crime, jp
>>719604206>>719624830That's some weird sense of "duty". >>719625001The honourable Europeans that let their Christian brothers next door live under Muslim rule for centuries.
>>719616853The Yakuza glazers are fucking retarded. The Japanese people themselves created laws to push these people out of civil society because got tired of their bullshit like bopping random film directors exposing them. >O-oh but the manga told me they protect Japan from foreign threats!>Traffic drugs and foreigners into their own country/their own people out of the countryAnd then they'll default to "Oh but that was the DISHONORABLE group not my chungus one"
>>719624114>I mean, you cant in modern yakuza games, not anymoreWhat do you mean? Y7 literally has a huge plot beat about excusing prostitution and pimps. It's full blown apologia for sex trafficking
>>719625349>>719626191I mean you cant fuck hookers anymore like in the old gamesCase in point Y7
>>719604123well no he had rubber fists and a villain next to the guy kiryu beat up woke up and killed him for real
>>719626089There's a similar thing in the US where people believe it was better when the Italians controlled crime because they had a "code of honour" and all that shit.
>>719626191>Nonomiya: I want the girls to be desperate so they have to keep working for me(This guy is treated as a tough on the outside but sweet on the inside guy, who's death is considered shocking and tragic)>Hamako: Most of the girls who work here are foreigners who rely solely on me
>>719614587>>719626257>>719625036
>>719614915Too my knowledge it's the Chinese who've taken over the scummy side. They fun the barker scams, unregulated prostitutes (who are all SEAmonkeys), and the black people.
crime is okay when japan does it
>>719604295Its kinda weird in Japan, loan sharking is totally legal so there are literally thousands of shady moneylenders in every city that hire any type of thug as collection agents, with varying levels of legality. One might get the paperwork to legally reposses your posessions or one might just go straight to the leg breaking
>>719626517this
>>719610554Why are the Yakuza investing into videogame propaganda instead of stopping their homeland from being defiled by floods of degenerate third worlders?
>>719626845because the yakuza are basically third worlders you dumb nigger, all criminals are spiritually turd worlders
>>719626845They are too busy owning and managing American baseball teams
>>719626517It's mostly about style. The Yakuza came off as sleek and efficient, La Cosa Nostra had class but with an attitude, and the Russian Mafia were psychopathic killers.
>>719624363Don't you shoot people up in a car chase in the first game of series, those people are definitely dead, especially the truck driver whose vehicle explodes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fieM6A_lZt4
>>719628664if it doesn happen in a cutscene its not canon
>>719628756The final 20 seconds are a cutscene, so yeah, canon
>>719624363https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUnGk21cTfc
>>719626845Who the FUCK wants to be a Yakuza today? Japanese zoomers think they're fucking uncs. Hearing one of these people talk about the 'old days' probably comes across the same as a teenager in America hearing a 50 year old rapper talk about how he'd go hard after snitches and people who don't "check-in"
>>719624363Even if he doesn't kill anybody, that misses the point. He has no "strict code against killing", regardless if he has killed people or not.
>>719628860Off topic (Possibly), I heard a rumor that the Kagurabachi Manga that's really popular these days was initially given low ranks in TOC in Jump back when it started due to how main character was killing a fuckton of Yakuza guys.
>>719603867he's an orphan whose dad was a yakuza member, him wanting to be yakuza and then quitting is the least retarded plot-point of any of the utterly insanely plotted gamesi mean if you want a plot hole you could just point to any single aspect of yakuza 4>there's a ten thousand criminal strong secret ultra prison with hundreds of staff that was bought by stealing yakuza money, and has run for 10 years with not a single person ever finding out or knowing about it >the entire point of the secret 100 billion dollar prison is to occasionally beat like 12 yakuza members to death
>>719629317>wants to quit crime>still helps the criminal organization when they ask for helpkiryu is retarded
>>719604295>borrow money>they eventually want it back>surprise pikachu face
>>719629404i would say the counter is that he made an oath to the tojo and so he feels honor bound (i think actually in yakuza 4 he says to taiga that the only thing they have in this world is the tojo)but then in the next game hes like 'fuck the tojo they can all die i want to drive a taxi, that's what's most important, also fuck my daughter'so i have to agree with you that kiryu is either retarded or has CTE-fueled personality swings
>>719628823doesn't count that waiter chose to not dodge those bullets
>>719629404hes not retarded, hes just japanese :)
>>719626845the yakuza are one of the few organizations in Japan who don't give a fuck where you came from, they only care about resultsconsequently they are one of a very small number of sources of employment for the ainu people
>>719621057he very clearly has a no-kill rule, or he despises killing intensely or somethingin yakuza 5 he says that line about how he can kill specifically as a bluff to make that guy piss his pants, as shown by how immediately after saying 'i can kill people!!' he punches the car or some shit instead of his skullim also pretty sure hes said at different points in the game something along the lines of 'we don't kill' or some shit when one of his friends tries to kill someone, but i can't remember where
>>719603867Are Yakuza games usually as long as 7? I’m halfway through and shit keeps going
>>719629774No. 5, 7, and 8 are the longest games in the series even when just talking about the main story.
>>719628860frfr no cap the yakuza ain't bussin' :skull:
>>719629774depends on how completionist you aremost yakuza games, if you only do main story and play at a leisurely pace are like 40-50 hoursif you add in sub stories that is probably another 5 -15 hours, depending on the gamethe real time sink is if you decide to 100% shit
Funny enough Kiryu is a very bad fit for Yakuza coz of how he acts.The series beats you over the head that he deep down is not cut out to be a real Yakuza member even if he saved it multiple times.
The funny thing about the modern games is that it portrays the yakuza as a club for people who are too dumb to make it anywhere else, a kind of social last resort for fuckups and people with criminal historiesThe games do everything in their power to pretend it isn't organized crime until one day for no reason at all they start killing people
>>719630378You just have to pretend it’s an alternate world where Yakuza means something else
In Yakuza 1, Majima threatens to rape a woman.
>>719616739I saw one, and he must have been an important guy, because he was dressed elegantly and walked as if he owned the streets. His bodyguard walked three paces behind him, keeping an eye on everything, and everyone made sure to stay away from them/change the sidewalk.
One thing that the games was right about is how the Yakuza is too traditional and has not modernized to keep with the latest trend which is is why it's losing out.For example the triads are running circles coz they are flexible and willing to take any profitable job no matter how low it gets.They expanded into other countries (most notably SEA) where they run casinos and cyptoscams in order to help launder money for Mexican cartels and various Mafias.
>>719631801no you see that was a silly chungus moment too
>>719614847This and organized criminals should be considered enemy combatants who can be shot on sight. Sick of them snaking their way out of consequences through loopholes
>>719629864>40-50 hours purely for main storyI don't think that's accurate. Most of the games are 15-25 hours if you only do the main story. The RPGs + Yakuza 5 being the exception, RPGS are like 40-50 hours of main story, Y5 is like 30-40 hours.
>>719633227Actually Y0 might also be a bit longer than the other games, I think it might be in the 20-30 ball park
>>719604045As we know from RDR2, debt collection is the most evil thing ever and worse than wanton violence and murder
>>719626517this but unironically
>>719626845organized crime is typically who trafficks those third worlders in, buddy
>>719625935Christians are not brothers to anybody but jews
