I, KING OF KINGSETERNAL RULER OF ALL MANKINDREST NO LONGERTHE WORLD TREMBLES BEFORE METHE GODS BOW. TO ME.I HUNGER FOR MORETHE POWER OF THE BLACK PYRAMID SHALL BE MINEAND MINE ALONE.APPROACH THE GREAT KINGAND KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT WORTHYFOR IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO BE IN MY PRESENCETAKE IN MY MAJESTY AND QUAILFOR I AM SETTRA THE IMPERISHABLEI DO NOT SERVE.I. RULE.
>>719613485is GW ever gonna walk back the end times and Age Of Sigmar
>>719613687They sort of did, they brought it back as the old world.
>>719613687they did alreadysorta
>>719614068Wait really? How?
I AM GOING TO SAY THE N-WORDNAGASH
>>719613485What's his name again?
everytime I see Warhammer Fantasy here I think about that one Jap thread>skeletons are cool
>>719613485Post Khemri TV
>>719614186Settra... Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River,
>>719614186>>719614342Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of all Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Lands, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds... and many, many more...
>>719614146https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/the-old-world-lpcathay #1
>>719614186
>>719614186Settra “hop off my bone” ImperishableSettra “My name's not Shane, kid” King of Kings
>>719614530>My name's not Shane, kidL'METELUSUMTHIN
>>719614410I am amazed that GW still haven't released the Empire or the High Elves for TOS. It's like sidelining Space Marines in the next 40k edition.
Remember age of shitmarines? AHAHAHAHAHA
>>719616076they dont want people to stop buying sigmarines or aelves.
Unbelievably based
>>719616531He really is the coolest motherfucker in the setting. He's like ten times as arrogant as Malekith and Tyrion combined, but it's entirely 100% deserved.
>>719616076TOS?
Already have Total War: Warhammer 2, but I saw 3 was on sale. Any point to getting 3 if I already have 2? It seems like they both use the same DLCs so what more am I getting with the third game?
>>719616835there's a bunch of qol updates in 3 that are nice but has lost a bit of its sovl in exchange with the ui becoming incredibly bland, public order basically no longer being a real mechanic, and stuff like thatend game crises dont hold a candle to the chaos invasion even if you set it so there are multiple firing at the same time and turn up their severity but its variety at leastif you've already played and enjoyed 2 there's little reason you wont at least get your money's worth out of 3
>>719616706I like these kind of characters believing their own hype for good reason like Napoléon>>7196168353 has some wonderful mods and a few cool factions but the core is broken with ugly colors and cancerous sieges. The devs said "there's nothing we can do". They use the same dlcs but pirate them with creamapi
>>719616531easily the most based LL in the entire setting.
>>719616835https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3007996493https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/12777455786337102010/B7F87F70FBBC7D4D060879D0D745BD776E260480/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false
>>719613485>KING OF KINGS
>>719616706When they can back it up it's not arrogance, it's confidence.
>>719617960>srpski
>>719613485Fishes want to be me
>>719618532Jesi ti neki komedijaš, šaljivdžija?
>>719618726možda, ali ti si srpski podčovjek
>>719618907Odakle si ti junače?
I wash thinking about buying warhammer 3 total war but apparently I have to buy the first two games too just to get all of the factions?
Tomb Kings consider themselves rulers of "Mankind"?
>>719618979
>>719619009Yes they do but I don't know if they count the barbarians north of their borders in that.
>>719619023
>>719618992no they change it you get the 1/2/3 base factions if you buy 3 now. It's to entice you to buy the dlcs who got the good shit (pirate them)
>>719618992You don't need to buy 1 and 2. You need to buy everything else tho
>>719617787..is Repanse
yes yes Setra is pretty good and all, but he's not THAT great
>>719613485>Over 10 years>The game is still shit and the AI is braindeadI have 0 hope for the Alien sequel if it's also made by nu-CA
>>719621412Fleshless fingers typed this port
>>719617960>another indication that the bible is just a remix of all the middle eastern myth that came before
>>719622648lol I bet you genuinely believe in everything you saw in Zeitgeist
>>719613485I'm not sure about those TK Blood Bowl models
>>719621525The AI still uses WH1 AI. Anything added that works through bruteforce .lua script extensions. For example the Beastmen Herdstones are hardcoded to get a free upgrade at turn 25, 50, 75 and 100. The AI cant upgrade them on their own, since for all intents and purposes they dont exist in WH1's AI code.
>>719618907>podčovjekNever ask Croats and Slovenes what Italians did to them at the Rab concentration camp, while Germans pointed and laughed, their own "allies" who were supposed to cure their daddy complex.
>>719622648>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atra-Hasis>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_of_AmenemopeVery, very obviously so
>>719623262this genuinely proves Christianity is false and God is not real!edit: thanks for the gold!
>>719613485finally a good /v/ thread
>>719613485>All this talk just to get mogged I AM SUPREME!
>the 10 millionth hrvatska vs srbija scenario quickly turns into fedoras vs biblehumpersand it was so fast too, never before seen
>>719624915*wipes out your entire army with the Gehenna's Golden Globe* LORE OF METAL!
>>719624915LOOOOOOORE OF METAL>guns the audience down
>>719625135dumb hrvat, kek
>>719624915NO SETTRA DON'T ACCEPT HIS BODY
>>719624915>Is rich >Is powerful>LORE OF METAL>Probably casually chats with the magic elf nerd>Gets to blow shit up with a crackhead Gelt is living the life
I really like Arkhan (THE BLACK) for both his aesthetics and his kit but I wish his lore was as cool as Settra's
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>>719616531
>>719625676The Gelt Zhao Ming bro comics are unironically some of my favorite things to come out of tww3
>>719614341
Who the fuck was in charge of 6.3?
>>719628523TWW3 is great for memes>Devs made Nam Gelt a literal thing
>>719628650>skeleton can't be poisonedThe horror!
Sometimes I contemplate how amazing WHF is and I feel bad for 40k fags.That gigantic underdeveloped galaxy all to sell more Power Ranger toys.
>>719622819>>719624512Matthew 15:14 KJVLet them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
>>719628673is gelt really that good now?i loaded him up an skimmed the faction mechanics and it just seems like he can have a critical mass of wizards, i was hoping for really high spell damage or somethingdidnt play him tho cause im so sick of Empire
>>719624915Why is Gelt the strongest faction in the game
>>719624512And here's somehing for you brother.
>>719628979You have absolutely no idea how broken "critical mass of wizards" actually is.Let me break it down to you on multiple levels. Gelt himself gets, from his unique trait a -20% reduction to magic cost per spell and can get an additional -20% reduction from the colleges of magic off-world mechanic. He can then get an additional -20% from the yuan bo defeat trait, and has, in his skill-line, the skill "loremaster lore of metal" which gives a flat reduction of -2, meaning that, if you combine all of them with his unique items, he can get absurdly cheap spells, like 1 wom cost golden hounds or 5 wom cost overcast final transmutations with like, no cooldowns.But that's just gelt, the actual wizard stack is even stronger. Not only do they all get, from the colleges of magic mechanic, -20% to wom cost to all their spells, and their own unique items can be some of the strongest in the game(looking at you hourglass of shysh sands) but there's 2 key factors to why gelt wizards are 10 times better than karl wizards. Number 1, gelt wizards, if you build the unique building in cathay, have mastery of the elemental winds, which gives stacking spell intensity per wizard in an army, up to a 2 times damage amplifier if you have 8 or more, and number 2, gelt has a unique trait that gives like +10 wom cap to every hero in his army.If you combine all of these, a gelt army with 10 or so wizards will have 500 winds of magic, super cheap spells cast at double their normal power, with a consistent and reliable way of getting infinite wom with the hourglass item I mentioned earlier, while also not even having touched on the unique skill lines of the wizards themselves, which can do anything from raising the regen cap of the entire army by 15%, or lowering the enemy's by 15%.The gelt wizard stack is without exageration the single strongest army in the game by far.
playable stirland when
>>719628979He gets access to free cataclysm spells if you use the colleges, and enough winds to constantly spam his normal ones even if he’s the only wizard on the field. If you stack wizards it can be functionally impossible to run out of winds before the enemy is gone.It’s incredibly satisfying to freeze an enemy army so you can utterly shred it with artillery and magic. Especially if that obnoxious fat fuck tamurkan is leading it.
>>719629305Oh and that's not even mentioning the other things the colleges mechanic gives you, like instant healing for an entire army, doubling movement, 3500 gold every 3 turns or enabling skaven stalking stance for an army. Or even the fucking cataclysm spell, but honestly, they're less strong than the regular spells most of the time lol.
>>719629305so in effect lol, what you get is old men flying around in the skies, critical mass, just blowing up everythingi get the nam reference now
>>719622907They look awesome, actually.Great for characters.
>>719629523Basically yeah, all you need is one shadow wizard with the skill that gives him stalk regardless of terrain, put him on a horse instead of a pegasus, place him on the corner of the map and have the other 19 wizards circle around the enemy nuking them with the strongest spells in the game.The only doomstack that comes close is kairos with cultists on tzeentch warshrines, since that literally lets you cast like10 spells a second infinitely, but that's way harder to pull off
>>719613485WE WUZ KANGS
>>719618992You can unlock everything for free with a single ini.
>>719622907>egypt skeletons in shortsBest thing GW has shat out in a decade
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>>719629693Would love to see a video of Kairos Doomstack fighting Geld Doomstack with AI control, since then it auto-casts everything, all the time if it works.Although even regular fire-wizards of most races in 3 are way more dangerous than i remember them being in previous games if they have full mana pool army attatched to them, since they will start spitting out a fireball every 5 seconds and will out-do a hellcannon.
>>719613485Skarbrand do not care, Skarbrand will feed you to Skarbrands hounds.
>>719616706What makes him so deserving of the glory but not Malekith or Tyrion? How many demons has he fought?
>>719628650That's good and needed, there are so many units with poison or other effects like frostbite and there are currently zero ways to counter them.
>>719613485I've never seen AI Settra perform well. He always gets stuck at 3 or 4 settlements.
>>719624915>Men of the Empire! I am no Warrior Priest blessed with the gift of making grand speeches, I am no orator — that is true. But I am not a cold man despite the mask, frozen in its stern aspect. What we do this day is not just some plot to gain favour for the mantle of Supreme Patriarch... No... There is much more at risk; if the Mountain God awakes, if Sun-Eater is roused from his ancient slumber, all that we hold precious is doomed. We must stop the summoning and stop it now!Gelt got got so annoyingly during the end times man
>>719628673>Devs made Nam Gelt a literal thingReally?
>>719631671AI Settra is kind of fucked due to the lords around him. Manfred starts snowballing super quick, then comes Skarbrand, and if you are lucky enough to survive it, Volkmar the Grim declares a war on you at the same time you are getting demolished.
>>719631747They moved Gelt to NotChina in order to help them deal with some rebels (vietcong).
>>719631687We don’t talk about that round these parts, fella.
>>719631953I saw it firsthand in my Wurrzag playthrough.Formed a defensive alliance with him pretty early but EVERYONE was declaring war on him.Volkmar, Skarbrand, Mannfred... I ended it once Arkhan declared war. Was just too much. He died like 5 turns later.
>>719631687Goes for most characters, ET is Gay Workslop fanfiction
>>719613485MAKE KHEMRI GREAT AGAIN!
>>719628825>>719631108You're supposed to focus on the immune to psychology part
Elfsisters...is this true?
>>719632472Noldorfag… don’t look!!
>>719632472Elf (wood) women like human (empire) men
>>719632385>>719632214>Gotrek just leaves Felix behind>good number of famed characters die ‘offscreen’>unceremonious deaths for the othersChrist, getting into Warhammer through Total War then learning about End Times was one of the most rough transitions, “oh wow I really like these characters I wonder what they’re up to now” -clueless man
>>719631747In Immortal Empires, Gelt's starting territory is near the Jungles of Chi'an landmark in Cathay, the game's equivalent to China and Vietnam.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npO4n782FbYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uRe6BkslRo
>>719633261>Yes we killed fantasy, now buy 5 figurines for ToW for the price of TWW3 + all DLCs.>Fantasy is back thanks to vidya (too advanced for us) so we'll make a nu-fantasy!It's a miracle GW is still in business. Bad decision followed by an even worse one. Kept afloay by literal addicts who NEED to buy the latest slop
>>719633565LOOOOOORE OF METAL
I can't stop playing vampire cunts but I hate farming blood kisses
>>719629336they should just let you play minor factions
>>719633261>>719633602End time the idea was a good one, end time the execution however.
>>719633602>It's a miracle GW is still in business. Bad decision followed by an even worse one.That’s been GWs unwritten motto for 20 years now, or maybe it is, just in the CEO office emblazoned in 4 foot lettering on the wall
>>719631953https://files.catbox.moe/ls6137.mp4
>>719613485Settra wished he has a pyramid as big a Nagash's.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVPVIhX2SjA
>>719632239>WurrzagYou just reminded me how insanely easy it is to make him a vassal. As Arkhan I tossed him a settlement with some military buildings and he became my pet. He was rank 1 strength at the time.
>>719634056And Nagash wishes his crown could control orks.
>>719613485Can someone explain how Warhammer fantasy fits into the same universe as Warhammer 40K?Like where the fuck did these Egyptians go after they found the Pyramid? What about the Lizard people? Or the Vampires? Why does magic not exist anymore except from Psykers or Chaos presence?
>>719634284Magic and psykers are the same thing just different names.
>>719622907GW will do anything, but actually update the Tomb kings skeleton warrior line.im so fucking mad.
>>719634284it doesn't fix, they are 2 different things.there are implications that Mallus is just one of the many planets in the imperium's galaxy, but it's just for funsies and giggleslike that one time the rats made the equivalent of a phone booth, only to call the fucking eldar with it and get super scared they destroy the machine afterwards.
>>719634329they aren't
>>719634056Nagash pyramid is only so big because Settra had the biggest one.
>>719634284The entire universe of 40k is contained within a magical snowglobe on a shelf in the Colleges of Magic in Altdorf.
>>719614342>Deacon of the Ash RiverThat one. It's cool.
>>719634456Shut up Magnus, you have always been wrong about everything, and you are wrong about this too.
>>719634284They’re not the same universe they just took the Fantasy universes concepts and threw a shit ton of Dune and other 80s SciFi at it
>>719634284The entire 40k universe is contained inside a bottle on some Wizard's shelf
>>719634605>that Wizard? It's you anon.
>>719628650AI.Seriously there was tons of minor odd issues with TK in the patch. Not sure what the fuck the devs were thinking.>immune to psychology traits>upkeep reduction traits>difficulty impacts canopic jars, thus preventing starting research turn 1 on harder difficultiesAlso TK get shafted by the random locations popping up in their territory. Oh you don't want a minor-upside, with massive shitty downside? Pay 5k OR MORE, even though you make like 500 gold a turn right now.Dont get me fucking started on whoever designed unstable portal. What an completely dogshit mechanic. >what if there is a random chance your starting capital gets razed with you having absolutely no power to prevent it.It was turn 9, i couldn't afford to re-colonize Khemri.
>>719634284At this point, they're separate.
>>719613485I like these lizards even if they are hard as nails to use at higest dificulties.
>>719634284>40k babby surprised its dogshit favorite setting is just fantasy but in the futurekeklmaoroflel o el*vomits profusely*
>>719634284>Can someone explain how Warhammer fantasy fits into the same universe as Warhammer 40K?It isnt the same universe, since it has too many lore contradictions that solving those ruins both settings.Fantasy Chaos and Daemons are underpowered, where in 40k a single lesser daemon manifesting in reality can fuck up entire planets in cascade that never seems to happen in fantasy.Fantasy Orcs are not the same as Orks of 40k, since they do not advance into firepower forms even after a long time and different orkoids will not spawn all the general ecosystem that 40k does. Most powerful "mortal" species in Fantasy were the Dragons, who were space-flight capable and plan to abandon the world to fuck off some other planet before its consumed by magic. There is no equivalent or carry-over of them in 40k, even if in a shared setting Dragons should be at least noticed by 40k explorers.
>>719634605>Everyone in 40k is terminally retarded because the wizard got bored It all makes sense now...
>>719635006>Fantasy Chaos and Daemons are underpoweredDo you hear that? Skarbrand rapidly approaching your locaRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
How do I get into kinohammer?
>>719635006The Orks not steamrolling that planet is jarring as fuck. In 40k it would be like playing infection in a bottle, everywhere you go a greenskin would pop up.
>>719635273The orcs of Fantasy are dangerous in a hundred different other ways than just being a bioweapon.
>>719635217Vermintide
If you see this image while scrolling, you have been visited by Tehenhauin, prophet of Sotek and buck-breaker of vermin.Rat genocide will come to you, only if you reply to this post with "HOLA SOTEK".
>>719634807>Tomb Kangz>upkeep reduction traits
>Victory Conditions Overhaul mod still hasn't updated to include all the Tomb Kangs>it only has Arkhan the niggerfor fucks sake.
>>719635217play total war warhammer 2deploy one of these bad boysyou'll see
>>719635430HOLA!
>>719635441what bothers me most, is they made jokes about the traits when they released the initial patch notes.like "ha-ha" we made a mistake, "teehee".
>>719635217Books are a mixed bag, some are pure fucking Kino others are extremely retarded. Play Rogue Trader, genuinely the best beginner friendly introduction to the series I've ever seen.
Best magical gf?
>>719635538then based on the 1000 monkey thing, maybe they will make so many mistakes the game will become good by accident
>haha Dreadquake Mortars are so good>everything is slowed and melting>oh, the frontlines are meeting tho, let me ju->aaaAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH FRIENDLY FIRE NO STOP MY FRONTLINEhonestly the game should have much more friendly fire damage in general tho, its a bit silly
>>719633261You are not a true fan if you don't hate gw with all your heart
>>719635217study history
>>719618907>"you're subhuman!!!">meanwhile your average Croat looks like this
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>>719635273Tbf greenskins scaling just high enough to barely lose in a good scrap is the same in both settings.
>>719635217Depends which Warhammer do you like the most.Both are "grimdark", aka edgy and hopeless.Vermintide 1 and 2 are really good games that will introduce you to the gritty world of Warhammer Fantasy, and the Total War Warhammer series will cover everything else that isn't just the Empire of Sigmar.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbREAF-wmEgThose 2 franchises are responsible for the complete renewal of Warhammer Fantasy as a setting.Both are excellent games too.On the other hand, Warhammer 40.000 has a lot of cointoss content.Its games are significantly lower quality and mostly confined to nonsensical game genres (fucking trading cards, really?)Darktide is a bad copy of Vermintide, but it has the same excellent gameplay, just worse everything else.Space Marine 1 and 2 are good Gears clones, while Rogue Trader is an excellent CRPG.And last but not least, Dawn of War 1 is basically what made 40k popular between PC gamers to begin with.Anything else not on this short list is dogshit shovelware made by indie devs with very little experience.
>>719613485>ETERNAL RULER OF ALL MANKIND
>>719635273You could explain one of the contradictions away, but not all of them.Chaos is weaker than in 40k since planet is made of magic metal that allows a fucking peasant swinging an iron sword to somehow kill a bloodthirster.Orks are weaker since magic keeps them locked in certain strains, so goblins, snotlings, orcs are not one species but multiple.Humans get placed there by random warp shenanigains, rest are engineered by old ones(Elves, Ogres, Dwarves, Lizardmen)So somehow you end up in a setting where its a daemon-world that is held in a warpstorm, full of anti-warp materials and an ex-laboratory of Old Ones. That all Chaos Gods have their sights on yet none can somehow just blink at its general direction and claim total control over. It basically reduces the entire setting to being held hostage by some warp entity that is just doing it for no reason whatsoever.That turns Fantasy into a worthless appendage of 40k. It shits on both settings lore.
FUCK SIGMAR!FUCK THE EMPIRE!FUCK THE WORLD!YOU ALL DIE!
>>719633565Tariff is a fucking treasure
>>719635905To be fair. While 40k is over saturated with slop games, it also gave way to some pretty cool ones. Any other publisher would have their property under lock and key and we'd be lucky to see a new game once every decade.Say what you will about GW but at least they let different studios experiment with their IP.
>>719636091In general the chaos gods don't care about the Fantasy universe. They are only present there because the star gates let in the winds of magic into the world. The whole world of Fantasy is contaminated with chaos on the same level as a planet that would need to be blown up in 40k. You can treat Fantasy humans as chaos exposed since birth thus being abnormal.
I will search underground for a cute skaven GF. What's the worst that could happen? Probably just a few love nibble marks.
>>719635430HOLA SOTEKBOK BOK BOK
>>71963620540k had a rough period there where they just gave the IP out to whoever which led to a comical amount of dogshit mobile games
When will they make more dark elf dlc. I'm starving.
>>719635421>>719635471>>719635594Thanks. Also realized I have Vermintide 2 on steam, Total War: Warhammer, Gladius, and Mechanicus on Epic. >>719635843Of WH?>>719635905Thanks. Does it matter much where I begin with these games as far as story goes?
>>719636841nta but nototal war warhammer does not have a plot in the literal sense, it's mostly a sandbox gamevermintide 1 has a barebones story, vermintide 2 has significantly more plots and subplotsthe plot of vermintide 1 is hastily explained at the beginning of 2
>>719636205It's always funny watching the skulls event. The clear divide between the good stuff and the slop could not be any wider.
>>719637037>Orc fighter plane game Cool>literal port of a iPhone game with a unchanged UIfucking why
>>719617960Leave the thread, jew lover. Or you will be made to.
>>719636828>tfw you had a crazy gf during university days>one evening you decide to have a sit-down and an honest discussion about each other's sexual tastes, fantasies etc.>ask gf to go first; joke that since you're a guy you probably have a litany a mile long compared to herand then she started counting down>I'm bisexual Anon>I wouldn't mind having threesomes with other girls, but I don't want to be jealous, so if you agree and we go through with it I'd also like to try MMF>It would be really cool if you two played with each other, as well, since guy-on-guy action makes me flood my panties. Don't worry, we can find a femboy if you want someone feminine.>Oh, can we also have two safe words? One would be the regular kind for "STOP" but if I say the other one prior to sex, I want you to treat me as violently and disrespectfully as possible.>You can choke me, slap me, spit on me, piss on me, whatever you want in that case. I want to feel like a worthless object.>Can we also carve out each other's names on our flesh? It's romantic and hot.>I let my own from back home fuck me or give me oral from time to time. If that makes you horny, we could buy one for ourselves to rail me, or even a female one for you to fuck. I'd love to watch.Goths - not even once.
When are they going to release the siege rework? Your forces still refuse to use an open fucking gate if there's a ladder somewhere on the map.
did some of you start playing the tabletop thanks to Total Warhammer games
>>719637641Too broke/friendless to play the Tabletop but I’ve been pirating some books
>>719635712It took forever to get some decent artillery.Artillery in WH is so anemic compared to Shogun 2. Empire and dwarf cannons feel so sad and pathetic in comparison.
>>719637540Drop a link to your blog so I can subscribe for more amazing stories, normalfaggot.
>>719637641I played it before TW. Haven't made me return since I don't know anyone that owns a Fantasy army anymore. Everyone I know jumped to AoS and aren't interested with The Old World.
>>719634329Except Fantasy also has Psychic powers like psychometry and telepathy, and their unrelated to magic, even though wizards can achieve similar effects with magic
>>719637772Sorry, I lost the exact address. I'll ask your mom next time we fuck, she had it saved on her phone.>>719634329No, it's not.>>719637796In the Gotrek novels there was even a member of some insectoid race that was straight-up a psyker.
>>719613485>hey, shitass!
>>719637641I got into the lore and that's about it
>>719614410>cathayThis word in the link is all you need to read to know it's just China pandering and not worth playing.
>>719637641Does the role-playing game count?
>>719634329No they aren't. Psykers have innate powers, mages in Fantasy shape the winds of magic that exist in the air and can't use spells when the winds are too weak. Psykers don't have such limitations.
I love the sunmaker
>>719637932In return Wizards don't explode or mutate nearly as often
>>719637932Not everyone can be a trained wizard though.Even if they can see the Winds of magic, you do need the innate gift for it.And then God blessing also confuses things even more, since you don't need to be inherently gifted to do them, but you do need the patronage of your god
>>719633825>the idea was a good one"What if we just killed the entire setting and every character in it?""Good idea!"
so uh anything NEAT happen in that 40K ork book that came out this year? and i think there was a tau book too? and maybe something else/tg/ sucks and never answer my actual questions
>>719638034My dude wizards in Fantasy explode more easily than 40k ones. A trained psyker has to really screw up to blow up a Fantasy a battle mage(which is the ultimate expression of combat magic) can blow up by just trying to draw power.
They have like 2 more dlcs tops left right
>>719638034You should read the miscast table for WFRP anon. It happens pretty often it just Collage education makes it less likely
>>719637641I'm going to get flak for this but I fucking hate 40k tabletop but enjoy regular DnD. It's design and ruleset is retarded, even if the figures look cool.
>>719638065You don't need to have any talent. Nagash is a wizard that could never perceive the winds of magic in life and had to drain it from warpstone instead of collecting it from the currents like a real wizard.
>>719638141You talking about BL books?I think both factions have already had their 11th edition codexes
>>719637932I've not read current edition but in previous editions, yes, in 40K, psykers can have inconsistent limitations.>>719638238>Collage educationIs that better than mood board education?
>>719638284Negash probably could see them, but Khemri is a location in the Warhammer world where the winds are very weak, so there wasn't probably just enough for him to see them
>>719638284Well in the novels he learned how to wield Dhar from Dark Elves and then later also used warpstone on top of that.
WHEN CAN WE GET FUCKING DLSS OR FSR4 IN TWW3EVERYVERYSINGLE FORM OF AA IS FUCKING AWFUL IN THE GAME, AND PLAYING WITHOUT AA IS FUCKING AWFUL. HOW DOES THE GAME LOOK SO FUCKING SLOPPED OUT COMPARED TO TWW2
>>719638381Collages are better than mood board
>>719638238>Curse of temperanceThat's a grudge, a big one
SETTRA IS DESSICATED...
>>719638425Warpstone isn't used at all by dark elves. Dark elves just mix the winds to create dhar. Only time I remember there being warpstone mentioned in dark elf lore it's in one ore mine where they found a warpstone vein and it started resurrecting dead miners which increased mining efficiency. Using warpstone for magic would be a insult to a sorceress.
>>719638238>All this Heh, faithchads win again
>>719633261>oh wow I really like these characters I wonder what they’re up to now”Most of the characters they killed off were glup shittos.
>>719638894They killed everyone man
>>719637641Yeah I got into Disciples of tzeentch for aos. tried getting into warriors of chaos for tow but Im just not happy with the army there, even with the big changes a couple months back.
>>719638425>learned from the dark elves dosen't even know a single dark magic spellYIKES imagine being the lord of undead and not being able to at least cast power of darkness(the most selfish and chad spell in all lores) .
>>719633261AoS takes place millennia after Fantasy. They would have died even if they survived.
>>719638892Faith has its own miscast table
>>719639170>can miscast so hard you outright turn into a heretical sinner LMAO faithchuds on suicide watch.
>>719638784No, that came later, the Delves gave him a tutorial for Dhar and later became the tutorial boss, many years later Nagash found warpstone and used it as a fuel source.
IS IT HOT?
>>719633261>Gotrek just leaves Felix behindIsn't the current lore that he fell into a chaos portal to a twisted future and now tries to go back to the past?
>>719639235tbf to get that point, you have to have a lot of Sin points i.e. act against the teachings of your chosen deity if you just role-play a priest of Sigmar or Morr, as they should, you could never get a high role on Wrath of Gods tablepic is structures of a super strict god that you have to follow if you want to keep your powers
>>719639406>Slayer Gotrek the animated series Soooo there's a chance he'll stop the End Times and all will be good again?
>>719613485>tfw there are no good warhammer fantasy games where you can play Tomb Kings
>>719639661No Gotrek has a entire series of AoS books that continue his adventures.
>>719639661>wanting to re-create the ending of Samurai Jack
>>719639459>That pic Wtf!? Literally me?
>>719638221I doubt they have it in them to make any more after the next one, which is taking a whole fucking year to make. It's clear they don't care about this game anymore.
Settra? Khalida? Arkhan? Fagash? No! For me it's Khatep.
>>719639683egypt is a superficial setting that is never handled well.
>>719639170>>719638238Once again, Average Joe is the only winner.
>>719639683Warhammer: Chaosbane is a sort-of(I like it) Warhammer Fantasy game where you can play against a Tomb King in Nehekara in the DLC. Pretty cool at showing what a immortal and petty menace the Tomb Princes are
>>719639804>Khatchup the Literally-Who, Avoider of Remembrance, Fart in the Wind, The Never-not-Forgotten,...
>>719640295Khatep is cool because he is the oldest living human in the setting.
>>719639804this nigga needs a glass of water
>>719634284It isn't connected at all. Waaaaaaaaaay back when, during the Rogue Trader days, there was an implicit connection between the two settings, but each edition that followed downplayed it further until it became two entirely separate settings.
>>719633261>ETdidn't happen
>>719641242Imagine how ET coulda looked if GW had let players dictate the story like in Storm...
>>719639731the first 3 episodes were so promising
>>719634284Fantasy doesn't take place on Earth, it takes place on an almost identical planet called Malus which has 1 extra continent in the middle of the Atlantic (While that should compleatly mess up the climat of that not!Earth it just doesn't because nobody at GW knows how geography works)
>>719641894the warhammer world is suppose to be 4x bigger than earth too
>>719641894retard.
>>719633261>Gotrek just leaves Felix behindLast I heard Gotrek found out Felix became a sigmarite and had a fucking scathing meltdown over it because its not a pleasant process and kind of strips their personality and humanity away
>>719641959I have many complaints about fantasy. This is in like the top 5
>>719641510Chaos would get it's shit rocked and GW can't have their precious darlings lose too hard, other factions be damned
>>719640159>The average joe in question
>>719641959That has been really inconsistent as maps for the Empire basically have it the size of Germany, so it wouldn't work unless the Warhammer version of the Pacific Ocean was truly massive
>>719642358>sigmar torching the wood faggots awayABSOLUTELY FUCKING BASED AND EMPIREPILLEDPRAAAAAAAAAAISE SIGMAR
>>719642504That’s how you get ass raped by the bajjiluon beastmen
>>719642165Nowdays people alway vote for the bad guy to win narrative events, so modern end times done in the style of Storm of Chaos would have ended with Archi winning so hard GW would send police to your house to burn your models for you
>>719614327Yeah! Skeletons are cool!
>>719642504Sigmar said (in my dream) that only the elves of Laulelorn have a place in his mighty empire.
>>719614186Palawa Ignacious Joko
why didnt they make warhammer total war but it plays like historic total wars? its just empire counts fighting amongs eachother with spearmen and crossbowmen
>>719642591A classic GW situation, you lose or you lose
>>719642718WAAAAAAAAAAR FUNDING
>>719642591What are you talking about, SoC ended with Archaon getting kicked in the nuts by Grimgor precisely because nobody actually likes chaosfags and wanted them to lose and fuck off.
>>719642738Nobody would accept their favorite plot armor characters being killed off in the first cavalry charge by dumb luck.
>>719629027that 'uncensored' image looks like a la creatura meme
>>719642882No SoC ended the way it did because>Fucking no one played chaos>People realized they were faking the numbers on games won>People got asshurt and started spamming fake reports of greenskins winning as a fuck you
Tomb Kangz need a pre-skelly faction, remnants and survivors or were on campaigns far away from Khemri
>>719642738>uppity histonigger screeching that TTW outsold every single game CA has ever made combinedI AM THE COMETI BURN THE IMPURE
>>719642814I AM THE COMET, I BURN THE IMPURE!
Is SFO better than vanilla?How do I stop getting my teeth kicked in every fight? I like Bretonnia
>>719643068>>719643074Nice.
>>719643068Three Kingdoms sold as much, but that game is hardly historical
>>719642718>elves of LaulelornCan I get a QRD?
>>719643068>tribefagging out of nowhere fuck you i just want low fantasy shit and there is no mod that does that
>>719643150>is sfo betterNo. It has OP as fuck things in it and the AI is too stupid to make use of them. Not saying it's not fun but I would never call it flat out better.
>>719643178>chink pandering sold very well-wellgee, anon-friendi wonder why-why thats the case-matter
>>719642882It ended the way it did because GW allowed endless amount of submissions with no proof, resulting in a few autsts saying they won 10000000 times
>>719643150>Is SFO better than vanilla?Depends on the faction, it has a different feel to it and makes elite shit actually feel more elite. That being said, it advertises itself as having battles last longer and that is just not true.>How do I stop getting my teeth kicked in every fight? I like BretonniaI don't know much about Bretonnia, but I think the strat is just cavalry spam
>>719643271>anon-friend>why-why>case-matterვირთხების სრული სიკვდილი ვირთხების მოკვლა ვირთხების თავის მოკვეთა მრგვალი სახლის ვირთხების ბეტონში ჩაგდება
>>719643237yeah, herehttps://letmegooglethat.com/?q=laulelorn+elves
>>719643341
I CLAIM THIS THREAD IN THE NAME OF HASHUTHASHUTHASHUTHASHUT
>>719639804Y'all look the same to me
>kills your setting
>americans wake up>thread is unusablemany-plenty such cases
>>719643237They are Wood elves called the Eonir that live in the north of the Empire but aren't as tightly connected to the Forest Spirits of the other types of Wood elves, and as such, they are less fey and mystical and more diplomatic and willing to deal with Humans in a real political manner
>>719643271Wait a minute, that way of speaking... by Sigmar!
I will hug elves of all kinds!
>>719641894Ulthuan is not a continent dumbass, it's a boat.
>>719643619anon. Americans woke up hours ago. East coast is already midday.
KILL CATHAYBEHEAD CATHAYROUNDHOUSE KICK CATHAY INTO GOLD
>>719643686>implying they want to hug you
>>719643802I will hug them by force if necessary.
>>719633261>Skarsnik, the avatar of Mork just gets depression and for all intents and purposes kills himself>Dwarf becomes an incarnate of Winds of Magic>Thorgrim dies because he left his window open lmao>Bretonnians were simply forgotten and written offEnd times: the fanfiction of someone who never read any Warhammer lore
>>719643645
>>719643237Basically High Elves who live innawoods and don't hate humans, unlike the Athel Loren hillbillies.
>>719643637Is there a better map for this
>>719642128Why is that bad?
>>719643802Aye, I'll hug them till their puny lungs pop
>>719635712>Upgrade Dreadquakes to Dreadquakes (Iron Daemon)>Can no longer target enemies with them, since the game prioritizes Iron Daemon's ranged attack for targetingSometimes it feels like I'm playing chinese Temu copy of an actual Warhammer game
>>719643995It just reinforces the scale being so absolutely dogshit, which is fine if you dont want me to take the setting seriously, but Im pretty sure from 6th onwards fantasy wanted to be grim dark and instead ventured into grim derp, which leaked into 40k.
>he doesnt play exclusively luthor every single patch>and lose badly to the liggers before turn 50
>>719643976Any map of Nordland looks nicer but gives less info about the elf section of the forest
>sacrifices you to KhaineNothing personal slave.
>>719613485
>>719644117im begging gw to make a map that doesnt look like dogshit
Fuck Gayos>Kill Chaos worshippers. Behead Chaos worshippers. Roundhouse kick a Chaos worshipper into the sea. Slam dunk a Chaos worshippers baby into the great maw. Crucify filthy Chaos worshippers. Launch Chaos worshippers into the sun. Stir fry Chaos worshippers in a wok. Send slayers after Chaos worshippers. Hit Chaos worshippers with doom rockets. Toss Chaos worshippers into active volcanoes. Launch Chaos worshippers out of cannons. Turn Chaos worshippers into training dummies. Judo throw Chaos worshippers onto a spear. Twist Chaos worshippers heads off. Report Chaos worshippers to Witch hunters. Karate chop Chaos worshippers in half. Beat Chaos worshippers with 97 chariots. Curb stomp pregnant Chaos worshippers. Trap Chaos worshippers in molten metal. Crush Chaos worshippers with trebuchets. Liquefy Chaos worshippers in a vat of al-kahest. Dissect Chaos worshippers. Stomp Chaos worshipper skulls with steel boots. Cremate Chaos worshippers with winds of magic. Lobotomize Chaos worshippers. Mandatory burnings for Chaos worshippers. Grind Chaos worshippers into dust. Drown Chaos worshippers in Bretonnian lakes. Vaporize Chaos worshippers with Hellstorms. Drive over Chaos worshippers with steam tanks. Kick old Chaos worshippers down the stairs. Feed Chaos worshippers to Orcs. Slice Chaos worshippers with a greatsword.
>>719644097i finally figured out a way to use them that works for me in my last gameissues were:>they keep moving around while firing>they fire into the frontline if im not paying attentionsolution:>dreadquake mortar IS frontlinei got the one that has like a machine gun or something, got 4 of it and gave them beefy upgrades and supported them with gunnersvery good!!!angry cows in backup in case melee was needed
>>719613687End times yes, AoS never. AoS getting chaos daemons over 40k is an out of nowhere show of faith by GeW.
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>>719644189Could you provide an example of a non-dogshit map, anon?
>>719644152>KhaineEw, I don't want to be a sacrafice for a zesty version of Khorne
>>719643619>>719643892
>>719642564... by destroying the only place they can hide and get sustenance/gather up (forests) and not stick out like a mutant they are?
>>719644414There is more Beastmen in the Empire than humans. The Empire is 99% forests inhabited by mutants.
>>719644414caves anon, caves. Beastmen dont just stick around in the forest.
>>719643892>Casually strolls through a nurgle sacrafice site, deflects all your blows and shoots you in the face.
>>719644365>Canonically stones Bela'kek in your path Imagine being Bela'kek, lol
>tfwGod I fucking love this game so much.
>still no nagash dlc
>>719643053When I play the Kangs I headcannon them as the actual citizens of the cities but they don't fight cause there's literally an endless army of undead who will do it for them.If there are no human citizens then you'd have to explain what the fuck is actually growing in the cities.
>>719644695gotta leave the kino for the end.
These threads never cease to feel like a Tariff video.
how do i perform MEAT RITUAL
>>719638065Not true, anyone can make themselves able to use magic.-t. Settra, The Imperishable...
>>719644502Yeah no, they're a joke faction that would get wiped out if the Empire cared/wasn't pressed to deal with something else/could reliably find them>>719644546As far as I know, their primary raiding areas are located near the infamous forests of the Empire>>719644747The real kino faction would've been Dogs of War. Imagine playing something akin to a Rogue Army but with actual mechanics. As a bonus the Tilea/Estalia areas would've finally been fleshed out
>>719644773kek the general is even worse
>>719634869anon do you really have to self-insert in warhammer of all things
>>719614410Why are they gradually releasing factions for the Old World? Are they doing it just for money or do they need years to build up stock of the product and are having to restart production?
>>719613687No they will not. In fact they will double down and reinforce it through forcing it into the Total Warhammer just to ruin a beloved setting AGAIN in order to shill their corporate safe and copyright friendly sequel. The End Times are coming as the final DLC.
It would be great but they won’t do it
>>719644189
>>719644721Lore-wise there are TK cities with humans, and the undead are fine with them.Most TK settlements are fully undead though.>explain growthTK are just like necrons. There are legions upon legons of undead buried within the deadlands. Growth is you just pulling more and more undead from beneath you.its been a while, but im pretty sure the TK empire was the largest human civilization, before they fell. Even comparing it to the empire today. they have countless undead.of course, thats just how GW writes lore though.
>>719613485Think I'm a villain? Go play Settra.
>>719645251I WARNED YA*CRASH CRASH CRASH*YA STUPID GIT*CRASH CRASH CRASH*DIS IS WOT YA GET
>>719644721Some cities are like that, with the living being nomadic arabs worshipping the kangs. Though gameplay-wise the "growth" is just the skellies rebuilding things, they don't need any sustenance but magic.
>>719645130Does elder scrolls even have units?
>>719645130Khajiit will wipe out the skavenposters and become their replacement
>>719645040Yes
>>719644721>Host a population of humans>When they die their burial rituals means you get new skellymansmite b cool
>1 dlc per yearSo far everything I have seen from DLC is mediocre at best. Throgg is mildly less stupid, Alberic is still as generic but now woth Mannan flavour. Elementals for HElvs is whatever, but skycutter is cool. I don't give a fuck about Slaanesh and Norsca looks boring. Sayl is literally Tamurkhan's bitch and people woll probably use him only as a modding base for whatever the fuck is his diplomacy system.. The only hope they actually do decent siege rework (they won't)
>>719645404They are not going anywhere, trust me.
>>719645130>Cannibalism Visa isn't going to like this...
>>719645130No it wouldn't
>>719645637How so?
>>719643852>Bretonnians were simply forgotten and written offDidn't Bretonnia get absolutely raped by skaven (like most of the old world) and the remaining knights went with Louen on a big crusade into the Empire against Chaos, then the green knight turned up and was Gilles Le Breton? I forget what happened after that. They weren't really written off, unlike Araby, Estalia etc. I know there was also something about the Lady being an elven goddess in disguise and most it was retarded (like 99% of the End Times lore)
>>719644695>>719644747>>719644926Nagash would unironically kill the game, and in a good way.
>>719633261One (1) Uno thing I liked from ET was the fact that Middenheim somehow found a giant and taught it how to load a cannon. Imagine getting a SEM Giant (Empire)
>>719645604?
There aren't enough games that have cool portraits for conversations anymore.
>>719642814*dwarf hunting
>>719645931That cannon predated ET, iirc even wfrp mentioned it
>>719645156God I wish so, so, SO fucking much that Lustria, the Land of the Dead/Great Desert, and the Southland got much bigger in the game map so its both not so squished and warped while also being a land that doesn't feel like a bunch of mish mash random factions put there for no reason and it is all 90% Lizardmen and Skaven and Tomb Kings as they fucking should be.That would quite literally make the game perfect for me and I'd never want for or complain about anything ever again.
>>719645681What does it have going for it?
>>719645189>and the undead are fine with them.Yeah but imagine living in a city ruled by a Tomb King who occasionally just forgets that the living need food.
>>719613687They will not, even if it remains condemned to the niche of tabletop, there is no reason to squat it since its selling there, not as well a 40K, but no wargame was selling as well as it did for the last 20 years except for maybe Warmachine before it shat the bedSo keep crying
>>719644926>they're a joke faction that would get wiped outNo they aren't lorelet. Empire should be happy that Beastmen only care about Wood Elves because the moment Morghur decides otherwise there is nothing in the Empire that could ever stop him from turning the entire Empire into Chaos Spawn county.
>>719646309Well, nevermind then
>>719645102>The End Times are coming as the final DLC.What would they even add in there? Archeon is in, Belakor is in, all that's left are some second rate chaos lords no one cares about and that's itNo special mechanics to add either as most of those are already in, as are units
>>719614171>WHAT DID YOU SAY, NIGGA?
>>719625676>>Probably casually chats with the magic elf nerdGelt probably facetimes Teclis with a crystal ball. Probably asks jim for some magical trinkets in exchange for brining some human pussy to Elfstein island
>>719643237Empire has great value version of Athel Loren in its borders, they are more chill than regular wood elves and are kind of in between of them and high elves, culturally speaking
>>719646597Nagash, Boris, Thanquol, and Glottkin are the End Times roster and the final DLC of the game that's been leaked.
>>719646358The crazy lore
>>719646778Other than Glottkin and Nagash I don't think any of them are strictly "End Times" related, Thanquol is most well known for his one sided scuffles with Gortrek if you ask me, and Boris...don't think he was doing much in there eitherI am against Nagash as legendary lord in general because he is, to put it simply, too busted
>>719646983>to put it simply, too bustedHe isn't and we should stop pretending he would be in TW. You have characters like Malekith in the game already and Malekith had such a busted ruleset they had to change it in ET to make Nagash a credible threat. In game Malekith doesn't even have 1/10 of his TT power. Nagash would be no different.
>>719646684Hello Teclis, it's Gelt. We need 5 million rockets to bomb Norscan children. Glory to the Empire!
>>719647191Nagash is, for all intends and purposes, a bonafide deity, Malekith had his ass kicked by Tyrion, they are nowhere near the same level
>>719646684Elfstein Island has a human part in the haven of Lothern, but Gelt could probably hook him up with some 11/10 so that Teclis can feel a little like his brother.
>>719647345Malekith had LITERALLY a sword that turned Nagash into a level 1 caster. He had a shield that reflected magic back to the caster. They had to take away his armory so the magic spamming shitters like Nagash wouldn't explode looking at him.
>>719647425>Elfstein Island has a human part in the haven of Lothern,i.e. the indentured servants queaters as most humans that go to Lothern are either Traders from the old world or people who live their life as servants for the High elves
>>719647345>Malekith had his ass kicked by TyrionYou mean by the Avatar of Khaine not Tyrion. A god that almost killed Nagash whit a single curse while he was still outside of the Fantasy world.
>>719647623>You mean by the Avatar of KhaineHave you ever read anything 40k related? The Avatar of Khaine is the single biggest jobber entity in the entire franchise, to be defeated by one letigimately puts you below orc warboss tier. Nagash is simply on an entire different level to the entire world.
>nagash powerlevels discussion
Fuck chaos
>>719647425>Gelt, you know humans can't master more than one lore of magic. >Hear me out, ok? So, there's this girl...
>>719636313I wouldn't say they don't care but they have a lot of competitors so to say too many factions with a lot of bullshit going on.
>>719646806what would the units be, though? you know bethesda would be cunts that would take away all the cool shit, also argonians wouldn't have shit
>>719648261This isn't 40k RETARD. Aenarion as the Avatar of Khaine is the one that defeated the four chaos gods and ensured peace for millenia.
>>719649197Dawnguard, Knights of the Nine, Storcloaks, Imperials, Breton and Reachmen, Dwemer if they feel like it
>>719618992creamapi moment
>>719648261>equalizing 40k’s dead bitch khaine to the mad lad khaine
>>719649350Its the same universe, fuckman, the avatar of khaine is the single weakest thing that exists based solely on hype so that any actual important character can solo it as a rite of passage.
>>719649547>Its the same universeIt literally isn't. Khaine in 40k is a shattered deity that needs souls to materialize. Khaine in Fantasy almost killed Nagash with just a bit of elven blood cursed by him. His sword is enough to make demons too afraid to even speak his name in fear of being deleted from existence. He's on a completely different power level in Fantasy.
>>719613485Is 6.3 out? I heard TKs got a light rework.
>>71964954740k Khaine - Lost to Khorne and got broken into small fragments losing all his power.Fantasy Khaine - Broke into Slaaneshe's chaos realm and chopped up the gods face with a wound Slaanesh can't hide even when changing form. Then left laughing.That's the difference between Khaine in the two settings.
>>719637641The movement and shit looks like aids, so no.
>>719649981yes
>>719635905Fantasy wasn’t as edgy and hopeless as 40k until endtimes. It was much more comedy forward as well as way more hopeful. Sure some frogs and rats accidentally ruined the dwarf empires by complete happenstance, but it was through two hilarious mistakes. Brettonians are incredibly oppressive towards the peasants, but they really can kill swathes of daemons while jacked up on elf piss.
>>719650959>Brettonians are incredibly oppressive towards the peasants
>>719649905To be fair, that's because Nagash was literally being reborn with his blood. Full power Nagash, after he consumed the souls of all the gods of death, would absolutely beat Khaine.
so would Nagash be a VC legendary lord or a new faction?dont know much about the lore
>>719650959Also the peasant oppression was more comedic akin to monty python
>>719646597The real final DLC will be the hardfoots and the Mootland armies.
>>719651179Nagash literally created both the Tomb Kings and the Vampire Counts. He is literally Big Daddy Death so there is telling what they will do.
>>719646806>The crazy loreNone of it is canon, will never be in a video game, let alone a total war game, and the only "interesting" thing anyone knows is hurr durr milk speak hurr durr penis and hurr durr the world is just the imagination of a sleeping man
>>719651179He should be like Arkhan, with access to both the TK and VC roster.
>>719649981Its in beta because CA is incompetent
>>719651402It just released today for real this time
>>719635905>Both are "grimdark", aka edgy and hopeless.>>719650959>Fantasy wasn’t as edgy and hopeless as 40k until endtimes. It was much more comedy forward as well as way more hopeful.>>719651201>Also the peasant oppression was more comedic akin to monty pythonThey're slowly feminising and browning Warhammer Fantasy. The grimdark and the comedy are being wiped away.
>>719651092Full power Nagash lost. Full power Nagash accomplished nothing but killing a bunch of Tomb Kings with a united undead army. Full power Nagash kept Manfred on roster, who was the most accomplished ally-murderer in all end times and singlehandedly ended the world by stabbing so many people in the back for no discernible reason.
>>719651497Oh did it? Thought the real wouldnt be out for 2 more days
>>719651567>for no discernible reason
>>719651695And he was better at it than all of Chaos. Manfred was Chaos’s most prolific pawn, he should have been crowned Everchosen after Archaon got kicked in the balls by Grimgor.
MERWYRMS FUCKING WHEN?
>>719648957>Gelt, you know humans can't master more than one lore of magicI don't think that's ever been a strict thing. It's just sort of a magical power that envelopes the sorcerer and they can use whatever they are practiced to. The problem is that these magical powers don't like the share hosts so it's hard to balance, and being practiced in magic more or less makes you obsessed with that specific type unless something invasive comes along like Vampiric or Chaos magics.
Did they give Grimgore his trademark kick yet?
>>719651567>>719651695>>719651798>order wins>forever a slave to nagash>chaos wins>forever a slave to archaonI mean I would've probably done the same.
>>719651939Humans can’t hold several winds without them mixing and turning into evil garbage magic that corrupts you by its presence. They just aren’t good enough.
>>719652013And Nagash should have burned Manfred into nothing by his fourth betrayal but let him be the world’s worst minion.
>>719652037They do sometimes to a very small degree. But it's usually just a precursor to abandoning [old magic] for [chaos filth] or equivalent.
>>719652037They can actually, they just were never taught how to do it properly by the Asur.Hedge Wizards usually wield Dhar alongside any wind of their choice, without any problems.
>>719652274>without any problemsHedge Wizards are somewhat infamous for “whoops the spirit was actually a wraith” and other such accidental forays into necromancy.
How do I learn to play and start having fun? I have over 200 hours and have completed several companies by the way.Half of the units just don't listen to me and do whatever they want. Just recently a bunch of birds decided to form a line and die in the middle of battle. Or all melee combat always turns into a pile with one unit stretched across half the map.
>>719652397Bad luck, mostly.Necromancers wield both Dhar and Shyish, as an example.The first to raise the dead, the second to control them.
>>719652661Necromancy is effectively just dhar. It’s heavily shyish aspected dhar but it’s dhar nonetheless. Some powerful vampires can wield multiple lores but they skirt the mastery loophole by being even more immortal than the elves and having time to study.
Is creamapi completely dead?
>>719653061No
What's worse, a v*mpire or an e*f?
>>719653061How the fuck a simple script can be dead? The only problem there is every update is fucking blood dlc files updating
>>719652274I don't know if it's super lore-accurate or not but Sienna from VT is probably fucking insane ever since going full necro and breaking poor Victor's heart
>>719637641not played, but it influenced me to get some old miniatures i liked from ivan.
>>719653660Huh? The game flat out wont launch now if you have an edited steam_api64.dll You can manually edit the new blood dlc it doesnt matter
>>719652983Necromancy is using Dhar to bind Shyish to do whatever the fuck you want with Death, like raising the dead themselves.Dhar can be mixed with any sort of wind to "corrupt" it and do your bidding, skipping mastery and the painful trial and error process of hedge wizards.The act of "forcing your will" upon magic is Dhar, but the act of raising the dead and controlling them is 100% Shyish-fueled.Basically Dhar by itself is useless unless chained to a specific wind; it's like a personal well of reality-bending purpose that can only fully manifest when glued together to a wind or multiple, like the True Dhar pools around Chaos corruption.It's not necessarily explained well even in the old fluff codexes, but like to cast something like Blackfire, you're gonna need Dhar plus Aqshy, etc.Only the Dark Elves know how to do that, and Nagash.>>719653890Sienna went full Necromancer because she's in the End Times.Back then, in that horrible book no one wants to read, Nagash managed to pull a prank on the mortal world by "severing" Shyish from the Winds of Magic and have it funnel all towards Sylvania.This had 2 funneh outcomes: Nagash became even more lazy and retarded, while every single human wizard in the Empire obtained the power to wield Shyish overnight.Balthasar Gelt literally raising the dead, then scurrying to Mannfred to ask for some tips in how to not fuck up as a Necromancer, was one of the main reasons the Auric Bastion fell in disuse half-way through the Chaos invasion of Archaon.So in short, Sienna is a Necromancer because Nagash wanted his fix of Shyish.
>>719654010Try an older version of Creamapi or SmokeAPI
>>719653627vampires are kinda irrelevant so I'd say elgi
>>719633261>thorgrim dies because of an open door>skarsnik just leaves after they kill his pet (actually sad)>tretch ???>all those other minor characters that dont get a proper ending, just dissapear or forggoten>those who get one, are terrible or neutral (only cool one was the end of queek)>manfred
>>719654264>Skarsnik literally evaporating because everyone forgot about the champions of gork and mork plotline
Attention! New VT map got announced, all rat obliterators are expected to do their part. Sigmar and the Empire!
>>719654536You mean the one with Bile Troll big boss? Already played, pretty nice overall.
>>719654370I was so mad when I discovered thatHE IS MY FAVORITE GREENY, AND HE DESERVES RESPECTTHE SUPREME LEADER OF EIGTH PEAKZgobbla will be avenged
>>719652274Isn’t the point of dhar/dark magic is that it’s basically water to the eight winds’ juices? It’s easy to mix, but the method is a problem in itself
>>719654802Yeah, sorta.
>>719613485okay but are we WAS TOMB KANGS again? how much did the touch up to kangs do?
>>719654536What the fuck are they doing? Where are all the maps for Darktide?
>>719655075>
>>719655075You can barely recognise anything new for what it is since all maps look the same.
>>719613485Settra SOLOS 40k btw
>>719655138>all that ESL babblejesus
>>719654898I just learned about the patch, so I will be trying it and reporting back later this week.
>>719655075Someone post that meme, you know the one
>>719654689It's out already? Any new character dialogue?
>>719651354>none of its canon
Are the Kangz worth 50% off atm for Warhammer 3?
>>719634807>The game is over by turn 40!- you, very probably "difficulty impacts canopic jars, thus preventing starting research turn 1 on harder difficulties">Fuck dude why do they make the game harder? I can't start the steamroll on round one? A faction has to wait one turn? Hard difficulty is now hard, wtf man? CA used AI boo Also play fucking skaven once. Why do you retards bitch and moan for every race to start research immediately?
>>719654898WE ARE KANGS now. The changes to big constructs make getting then faster and the Jar economy is not adjusted for inflation. Once the economy is up and running you can use the New Dynasty to get the army cap increase like every turn. Khalida is also very strong early game now. Seriously, I had 2+ armies by turn 80 and almost every lord and hero had all the Blue mortuary artifacts because you can make them multiple times.
>>719656179>Why do you retards bitch and moan for every race to start research immediately?Because every race who couldnt research T1 has been changed when they get updated.And this is clearly just an oversight
I dont get the new confed system for tomb kings.
>>719613485Wtf the update broke creaminstaller and I'm paying $100 for dlc
>>719656370I'm not*I'm so smart
Kremlo came from space and I find that quite neat
>>719613485All those new Tomb Kangs players are for a bit of a rude surprise when Skarbrand declares war on them before turn 5
>>719656280Settra confeds all but ArkhanArkhan confeds all but SettraKhalid can only confeds WhathisnameWhatshisname only confeds Khalid
>>719656556Thats much simpler than their retarded ass chartThank you anon
>>719645102>forcing it into the Total WarhammerSurely they wouldn't do something as stupid as that? A friend of mine who hated Warhammer got into Warhammer Fantasy because of it.
>>719655075They like working on VT, that's the difference
>>719656026A few lines at the very least
>>719654898I dislike that unit caps still function the same. I personally would have made it so building tiers unlock the units, but you need to spend money on the building itself again once its completed to "dig" out the unit you just unlocked from it, and the more times you do this the more that unit cap goes up. This would let Kangz play tall if you wanted but also going out and conquering territory would be rewarded by having more dig sites and thus unit caps would increase faster.Not being able to make a front line of Tomb Guards, a tier fucking 3 unit, is a god damn travesty compared to literally every single other race in the game.
>>719656814The End Times as it was written is literally slated to be the game's final DLC and send off. We have 2 more DLCs before that happens, with one of them being the Monkey King guaranteed.
>>719635430HOLA SOTEK, MI AMIGOEL PUEBLO SIEMPRE ESTARA CONTIGO
>>719656107I showed you my bone please respond
>>719656107Do you like ancient egyptian kino? If so, yes.They aren't the best faction, but the aesthetic is 10 out of 10. I can't speak to the new update, but plan on playing it when I get the chance.
>>719657129Grim. Grimdark, even. The grimdarkedest of fates.
>>719656280>Game being hard on higher difficulties must be an oversightNever change, reddit-sisters. if challenge is too much, instead of asking the game to change, lower the difficulty
>>719657129Why are you lying? The End times content is off limits for CA and Total War as dictated by GW. Why do you think Skaven never got Stormfiends or the new Verminlord varients? Chaos never got the Glottkin, Magghot Knights or Putrid Blightknights? I think the only End Times units in the game are Khorne skullreapers/wrathmonger because there was literally no other units to flesh out the Khorne roster.
>>719657676Nigger do you even play kangz?99% of your jars dont come from battle now so the battles reducing them does nothing other than punish legendary players for a single turn of research.Its clearly just one of the many oversights since they half assed the patchIts the same shit as the absurd penalty for the later dynasty research.They clearly had zero fucking QC in this update
who wonned?
Last time I played, I ran with the new Khorne lord they added and completely shat all over the entire map due to how busted the blood hosts were and how much money I was raking in by sacking everyone. Did they fix that yet or is he still easy mode?
>>719658243Any faction that gains movement speed through battles is gamebreaking easy mode, before Khorne it was Taurox. Nobody can cope with you taking twenty turns of movement in one turn.
>>719645587A good siege rework is impossible when all the redditors they listen to just want their epic Helms Deep defensive battles, ignoring the fact that you fight 20 offensive sieges for every defensive one and so they will just make offensive sieges even more of a pain in the ass.
>>719637914It's honestly hilarious how GW have gone all in on China pandering just as China was about done turning away from Western Europe. They really are always late to the party.
>>719658751Even if we ignore plebbitors I don't think CA can pull of good sieges even if they tried. They haven't been good since Shogun 2.
>>719616835Games better overall with qol updates and you get a massive campaign map with all the factions.Downside is you get somehow even worse siege gameplay.
>>719658207Why are you so amped up over one turn? If playing on harder difficulties makes the game too hard for you, it's not an oversight, you're just expecting CA to coddle you like a big baby. Just lower the difficulty so you get your super important first turn research
>>719658751The game doesn't need to be any faster than it already is... Sieging a city every turn is so dumb and it's good they're making the progress slower and more tactics based. Instead of just autoresolving and occupying every turn
>>719657763>The End times content is off limits for CA and Total War as dictated by GW.Source, your ass
>>719658751Bigger issue is AIThe AI is literally too retarded to handle sieges
>>719657763>The End times content is off limits for CA and Total War as dictated by GW
>>719657763We already have End Times units in the game, we've had End Times units in the game since Warhammer 2
>>719659453Only Major Faction Capitals should have a full City + Keep Siege at most. Every other city should only have a break the gate siege. Provided they can get half decent AI
>>719655075The thing with DT is that they keep doing these somewhat big updates to everything but the maps, while in VT they just create more maps from mostly old assets.
>>719656179Anon, TK are insanely reliant on research, as it fucking grants you army cap.The fact they start behind, is incredibly stupid.The best part anon, i never fucking play on hard mode. it was my friend who made me in our multiplayer campaign. its still so fucking stupid, just like you.
>>719659453The problem is that siege battles are not funit doesn't matter how fast or slow it is, they're all fucking boring and easy.Changing how long it takes to take a city doesn't change the fundamental problem that 99% of campaign battles are awful boring sieges.Waiting two or three turns before having the awful siege battle doesn't change anything.
What the fuck are these new unusual locations with 6.3 man.What the hell is this shit
>>719661543Isn't that a mod?
>>719661543I can't believe Egrimm has a commandment that namedrops him, an item that namedrops him, a pre-battle lore quote that namedrops him and now an unusual location that namedrops him but he still isn't in the game.It's actually crazy.
>>719655075VT2 devteam is the skeleton maintenance crew of like four guys. They are the ones who _wanted_ to keep working on VT2 instead of moving onto Darktide. As a funny prank no one told the higher-ups that all major bugs have been fixed like five years ago, so they get to essentially just fuck around with the game they love, and that shows. Despite Darktide still having devteam of over 50, in the time after it was launched the Vermintide team has released MORE maps than Darktide team (or well had released ~half a year ago when I last checked), largely attributed to having close-knit and competent group that can set focused goals and tasks and work efficiently towards them.
>>719661968Isn't he that guy who tried to out-Tzeentch Tzeentch?
>>719662074yeah
>>719657763This nigga really thinks GW won't take the most beloved Warhammer Fantasy game and blow it all up in the biggest sea of diarrhea shits just to shill Age of Sigmar again but this time to a brand new audience.
How difficult wouls it be to mod WH3 unit names? I wanna make AoS naming shitpost mod>Empyre of Men>Ironwill Halberdiers supported by backline of Hawkeye Handgonnes and Halefyre Rocket Blasters, with Steelplate Rakeguards charging on the flanks
>>719662610Probably incredibly trivial. Then again there's a quirk where lord stats are tied to lord names, so perhaps it would be more involved than that,
>>719662779>lord stats are tied to lord names
>>719662779Yeah I'm fearing that units are attached to their names somehow and changing their name would break some stupid string search matching or similar. I dont want to learn modding for such a simple and silly thing if it is impossible to begin with.
>>719663093Yeah, if you find a way to name someone a Legendary Lord's name, they get that lord's stats.
>>719663169WH2 at least is possible. Doubt anything has changed with WH3.
>>719616076They've released both of those factionsWhat the fuck
>>719663169I've done a couple victory condition mods to WH3, it's extremely simple. Most their stuff is just in plain text files. Even if the name shows up more than once just do a search for it and replace all.
>marching to siege settlement >ambushed by 3 Skaven stacks
>>719661919No. It's official. You can also disable it and a few other of the more retarded unusual locations.
>>719663468That is fucking hilarious
Are the TK the best magic users in the setting or is that the elves or lizards?
>>719664484Had that happen to me. Not a problem though since I was playing Liggers and the skaven armies were full shitstacks.
>>719664649The most powerful spellcasters in general are the (older) Slann and Elves. There are a few notable ones from other races like Nagash and some vampires though.Doesn't matter because magic is for faggots.>t. Khorne
>>719613687they sorta areGrand Cathay actually got a brand new army of its own for Old World when Old World was only supposed to be a supplemental game for people who still want rules for their old models, the shadow realm for stuff that gets squatted out of AoS like beastmen and new people who didn't get a chance to collect those old models Now they're getting an entire new faction thats not in AoSif you want Old World to overtake AoS then Old World needs to sell much much better
>>719650959>>719651051Wrong. Bretonnia was only comically oppressive/grimdark in the 6th edition army book. They were noblebright before that edition and they are back to being noblebright in old world. Pic related my copy of the first Bretonnian army book.
>>719664649Slann and High elves are much better wizards than TK, Negash was 1 a one-in-a-million exception of a powerful Human wizard
>>719664649Slann have the strongest spells, Elves cast magic fastest and most often but TK probably have the most generally magic society since every single thing is animated by Nagash' really big spell snd other bullshit.
>>719664649Tks magic and lore are pretty underwhelming. You mostly use them to debuff while your big fuck off constructs rip the enemy in half.
>>719664649If you're asking like, on average, then Lords of Change are by far the best. If you're talking peak of peaks, then it's probably lord Kroak, followed by Nagash.
>>719664790The issue for that is the 6th edition lore was the only Brettonia lore for 20 years, and everything that referenced Brettonia in that 20-year timeframe like TWW, VT2 and books like Knights of the Grail, all use that 6th edition lore. So it's hardly unsurprising when most of the fanbase dislikes GW's attempt at returning to the older Brettonia theming of 5th edition
>>719664790>>719665061Redpill me on pre 6e Bret lore. It sounds like they didn't treat the peasants like turds so I'm interested in hearing how that worked.
>>719664997If Kroak is so powerful then why is he fat and dead
>>719665137He carried too hard
>>719665137Died by straining his body and blowing up a massive daemon army or some shit during the first invasion of chaos.He's dead but also hangs around his corpse still. Not undead though as he's explicitly not undead.In end times lore he just wills himself back to life.
>>719665137He killed 8 bloodthirsters at once as a pure caster.
>>719646364the horned rat is a tombking statue?
>>719665137He is so powerful that he became a force ghost upon dying and then one shot the raid.
>>719665128Brettonia went through a lot of changes(like having better Gunpowder and more guns than the Empire) before the 5th made them Chivealric Romance played straight with some Peasants not getting much character outside of the Robin Hood Ersatz and a Jester to the 6th edition version, which had them as grimdark Arthurian Knights with grubby, almost Monty Python-esque Peasants, the Technologcal stagnation and rot of the Kingdom was also played up way more in 6th edition.The 5th and 6th editions are the same idea, but the 5th edition played everything almost painfully straight, and the 6th edition is much more about making fun of those ideas and leads to a rather overbearing take-down of them.The WFRP supplement Knights of the Grail did at least try to round out Brettonia and have it make sense, but 6th edition is still very Grimderp.
>>719665789Thanks loreanon. I much prefer the knightly stuff played straight as a solid contrast to the Empire. But even the knights and gallantry are cool as fuck.
>>719664782Anon they fucking annonced ToW with TWW3 tie ins hyping Kislev'snbew model line that still isn'teven rumoured. If anything the project got scaled back
>>719666154Kislev is a casualty of geopolitics, but I would say there is some weird backroom drama going around TOW at GW. The entire thing about Beastmen getting squatted out of AoS and other odd decisions exemplify that.
>>719665237>he just wills himself back to life.pretty based
>>719613485ayo unc spittin fr
CONFESSIdon't actually hate End Times or Age of Sigmar. It's similar enough to not be alienating, but different enough to get me thinking on possibilities, though I still prefer Fantasy. My main gripe is that GW doesn't use the setting in a more interesting way, instead just riding the wave of End Times and Space Marines. Stormcast would have been cool as player characters for an rpg or /yourdudes/, instead they have the bestest weapons and armor and are their own army instead of just Warriors of Order for free cities. The models are often gorgeous, the lore is hit or miss but has a lot of potential, but GW doesn't seem to want to do anything too interesting with it. Hell, female stormcasts alone are a cool idea, what with them being people who chose to die fighting chaos at the last moment, you could have mortal heroes brushing shoulders with housewives who found their courage at the end, both given the power to be the heroes they have the potential to be, but instead we get lesbian girlbosses with sideshaves.
what happened to lost calm Jurassic. There goes my save kek
>>719666457they defiantly don't want their games to start cannibalizing each other and probably want to find a way for both to co-exist but also be really successful
>>719664782>then Old World needs to sell much much betterBasically no shot of that ever happening with those rules lol
>>719666795>run TT game that canonically decides the fate of the story>chaos loses>make chaos win anywaysGW
>>719664649The race with the best magic is the rats due to warpstone.they also have the most technologyand the biggest numbersand somehow manage to infiltrate every single good guy race territoryand also have big monstersand the best ranged attacksthey have nukes and plagues and their own super special chaos god