Who was the shittiest companion?
probably quayle by the virtue of being a 10 WIS cleric
>>719618920>>719619002Basically everyone you meet post-Chapter 3, since by that time you have a firmly established party. Coran might be an exception due to how overpowered he is.
Most important why there are so many companions and why i cant finish game with all of them in my team but most of them in "camp"
>>719619082Anon, what the fuck are you talking about? There is no camp in BG1.
>>719619059yeslick is great>>719619082because there's not any "camp" and they have their own lives, zoomie
Do you think they intended the game to be played in a way where you didn't just reload if one of your party members exploded into chunks? It's the only way I could explain some of the fucked up companions you meet later in the game.
>>719618920dunno I never used any
>>719619215Yes that is the idea. There needs to be lots of extra character for players in case some die along the way.
Safana because of her horrid voice
>>719618920Skie. Probably the last character you can access, a thief in a game loaded with thieves, tied to Eldoth, nothing special about her stats, whines and complains because she's a rich girl.
>>719618920It's Skie. She's a vanilla thief who is a nuisance to recruit when the game has 400,000 thieves and Alora is right there. Numerically she's superior to Safana, but Safana's got that great inbuilt Charm that you can use to nullify enemy charms.
>>719619082Because at low level AD&D you are very squishy, so the idea was if you lost your original companions there had to be replacements sprinkled all along the course of the game. Most people just opted to reload their saves than lose the characters they'd built up. They lampooned this in ToB where you meet the party of low level adventurers who figure they can take you down for your god-tier loot, only to lose badly and then reload their save to take the other option.
>>719618920nortubel had worse companions
Quayle, Skie, Tiax and Alora. All of them have garbage stats or bad recruitment placements. For example, Alora is a capable thief but only available after having access to Baldur's Gate, at which point you're already drowning in thief options.
>>719619002He's actually quite good. Cleric/mage is good. 10 wisdom, who cares, you don't need that many cleric spells anyway.
>>719620093You can quickly max out a given character by that point though. Sure you might not want to but if you end up really liking Alora for example it’s hardly difficult to have her replace your current thief.
>>719620093Quayle and Tiax are still good imo, multiclass = good, stats are overrated.
>>719618920Dynaheir because everyone gimmicked it so they could keep Minsc without her.
>>719620617*Because she’s a nigger
>>719620661It is weird that a witch from Rasheman wouldn't look a little bit mongol or at best slavic instead.
>>719620093TIAX RULES
>>719618920Eldoth's side hoe, forgot her name
>>719620617Be a shame if she got left in a building forever.
>>719620661 Yeah, the race thing never made any sense lore-wise. Rashemi are supposed to be descendants of Raumvirans and Ffolk-stock barbarians, not exactly a region that lines up with western Africa. It's just the devs throwing in diversity without thinking about setting consistency.
>>719618920I finished the game with canon party and was thinking of doing an evil party>Viconia>Edwin>Kagainwho else?
>>719620881The funnest parties are honestly mixed ones where everyone is shitting on each other.
>>719620797>It's just the devs throwing in diversity without thinking about setting consistency.Nah, it's not that deep. It's just because the portraits are mostly bioware staff.
The truly shit-tier stats for companions makes me think they enforced a One-Roll rule, and if that companion's stats were shit WELP THAT SURE IS TOO BAD, LIFE AIN'T FAIR
>>719619082>Most important why there are so many companionsfor the same reason you get a million soldiers in fire emblem and xcom, my ESL pal. The developer's intention is that you play the game at a difficulty that would result in some number of your companions getting killed and you wouldn't reload to keep everyone alive
>>719621218Their stats aren't that bad, they're just not minmaxed. I do play one-roll characters and I'd be floored if I got a party with as many 16+ stats as they have. Most of the time you end up with 13-15s in your good stats.
>>719619082Wow, anon, never play Suikoden
>>719621218I think most of the companions are just the tabletop characters of the bioware staff. Wouldn't surprise me if they just used their own character sheets.
>>719619059There's a mod to move them outside so you can recruit them earlier.
>>719621740Minsc even got nerfed from his pen and paper version. In-game his stats are>18/93 STR>15 DEX>15 CON>8 INT>6 WIS>9 CHA
>>719621882>age: 17>hair: baldgrim
>>719621980>6'2''>nearly 300 lbsDear lord, 17 year olds were really built differently back then
>>71962216918/93 muscles are big boy muscles
>>719621882Fun fact about Minsc - if you keep him and Keldorn long enough in the party, and use Minsc's berserker rage, Keldorn will teach him how to calm down.This is permanent. From that point on Minsc no longer loses control when berserking, making it finally useful.Plus it's canon and mentioned by him in BG3.
>>719620881Montaron and Shar-Teel are great
>>719620749 Yep, Rasheman’s always been painted as this icy tundra full of bearded barbarians and berserker chicks with fur cloaks, so having a witch there look like she just stepped off the Sword Coast fashion runway kinda throws it off. At least give her some aesthetic cohesion-bone charms, weathered furs, maybe some snow in her braid. Instead we get high-fantasy cosplay tier nonsense.
>>719618920That's funny I figured everyone would say Garrick
>>719621882Minsc's low wisdom would actually prevent him from being a ranger iirc the AD&D rules, changing him to a pure fighter.
>>719623034Bard Song's anti-Fear is useful for quite a while even if he does eat scrolls
>>719618920They're all equally worthless compared to my wand of monster summoning.
>>719623662It's only an entry requirement, if you're already a ranger and you lose wisdom you stay a ranger
>>719619082You can recruit all of them and leave them at the Friendly Arm Inn IIRC?
>>719620749>>719622974Rasheman is supposed to be a Slavland, encompassing everything from steppe folklore to the iciest tundra imaginable.
>>719620617It's funny how people talk about how they hated her because if you have her in your party you NEED to have Minsc and somehow I found her first and then never found Minsc in my entire playthrough so I just had her throughout.
>>719620617Lmao in all of my playthroughs I always have her turned to stone by basilisks and leave
>>719624463Thayvian hands typed this.
This guy because of his demoralising voice.
>>719622483>Plus it's canon and mentioned by him in BG3.Good bait
>>719620617Minsc is a monkey cheese reddit faggot character and I will NEVER recruit him
>>719625790>The contrarian has arrived.
>>719626184>Calling something for the bait it is makes one a contrarian now
>>719626382>Claiming BG3 is non-canon is not contrarian.
>>719626589>Never claimed such a thing
>>719618920>dwarf cleric guy>hey go to the mines or I'll leave your party>leaves>walk away 2 metres>talks to me again, hey you're gonna help me at the mines right>2 seconds later>hey go to the mines or I'll leave your party>leaves>walk away 2 metres>talks to me again, hey you're gonna help me at the mines rightI had to load an earlier save file to get away from him
Good to see the BG issue is reaching the point of meta-commentary. Maybe it can finally be behind us.
>>719619059This to be honest. Baldur's Gate 1 has a massive amount of recruitables in theory, but in practice it's actually a really low amount cause your party is probably locked in place very early in the game, and after that you have no reason to replace anybody.I think the shittiest one in the OG might actually be Viconia, because in the original version her 50% magic resistance actually blocks buffs and healing. I don't know if they changed that in Enhanced Edition. They definitely did in BG2.
>>719626589BG3 is absolutely noncanon you retard. Just because it has the name "Baldur's Gate" in it doesn't make it canon.
>>719626984They expect party members to fall in and out based on their bickering, players instead carefully manage them like a harem game where they make sure the zhentarim, red wizard, harpers and schizoid barbarian with attached hamster all cram together for maximum amusement for as long as possible.
>>719627045You are correct, but I was amused at how obsessed he was that he had to drop purposefully goading commentary.Its best to ignore them, nothing after 4e is canon, as per Ed Greenwood who still runs his campaigns firmly set pre 1372 DR. BG 1 and 2 are also non-canon by this technicality, however.
>>719626984>her 50% magic resistance actually blocks buffs and healingthat's rules as intended in tabletop 2e. It's the tradeoff for having a dark elf waifu with solid stats who can frontline if you give her the gauntlets of ogre strength
>>719627045Maybe first check what the word "canon" means before you start crying like a little baby. It absolutely is.>>719627267>as per Ed Greenwood who still runs his campaigns firmly set pre 1372 DRFunny you quote him in particular when he was the one who wrote CHARNAME'S death into canon via "A Murder in Baldur's Gate."
>>719620617I like dynaheir
>>719618920Gorion. Dies right in the intro.
wand of fireball is the best class
>>719621980>>age: 17>>hair: bald>race: mulHe's an Athasian from Gulg that somehow got to Faerun. And all Muls are bald.
>>719620946>female elf best portrait>also cutest irlYay
I lost all motivation to play this after reaching cloakwood.
>>719631621lol, filtered by web traps and poison
>>719619215Ironman Baldur's Gate was pretty fun.
>>719619215No. There's a tutor in Candlekeep that tells you to reload a save if something goes wrong
>>719620946>1998 Bioware>All those qt3.14s>Modern Day Bioware>Danger hairs and landwhalesSad. Very sad.
Low lvl AD&D is an abject MISERY
>>719636570Sleep goes in all slots
>>719633205The egneral vibe of the area is moreso the issueIt’s just kinda boring
>>719627267>nothing after 4e is canonNothing after 3.5e is canon.
>>719631621I lose all motivation to play in Baldur's Gate city. Exploring the wilderness is the most enjoyable part of the game.
>>719638198yeah this, the canon ends at NWN2
>>719618920>not creating your own custom party for an all mage or rogue set up
>>719626984>They definitely did in BG2.thats part of playing on easy
>>719627267isn't BG 1368-1369?
>>719639164Just checked, BG1 at the very start is 2 Mirtul 1368 and BG2 is 2 Mirtul 1369
>>719638718iwd is better for custom parties
