>most hyped indie game of the decade>5 year dev time>only 20 bucksYet every other indieslop thinks they deserve a 25, 30, 40 dollar pricetagYou dont hate them enough
>>719621001EUpoor hours
1) 7 year dev time, not 52) It's not just the most hyped indie game of the decade, it's the most wishlisted game EVER
>>719621001They're three guys and Hollow Knight sold 15 million copies, they don't need money for the rest of their lives. It's not the situation the vast majority of indie developers are in.
>>719621001Developing a video game is a fixed cost. There is no per-sale marginal cost. So if more people are going to buy it you can set the price lower and still break even. Most indie games will have fewer sales so they have to charge more for the same dev effort
>>719622062hollow knight is a much, much bigger and more ambitious metroid-like than all indie and aaa competitorsit was made on a small budget, a much smaller kickstarter than 90% of slop kickstarters these daysthey released it when the devs were literally broke and ran out of money so they couldnt develop it more, total financial insecurityand they still sold it for $15
my brother in christ did you forget that people ALREADY FUNDED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE GAME
>>719622779find me 1 (one) kickstarter that resulted in as much content for as little content as HK, let alone one that was sold for anywhere near as cheap.The kickstarter unironically raised like 1/4 the production value of the game, and it doesnt change the fact they worked for 3 years without a salary (a single decent salary is less than the kickstarter btw (ari used to make 5x as much) ) and released it when they had practically no money left
>>719621763But why. Looks astroturf
>>719621001Feel like they should've done 25 because of inflation, it's nice they didn't though.
>>719621001Well. If I could project 10 million sales with confidence for my indie game. I too could sell it for like $10 or $15, or like in this case $20. But if I can only expect like one to two thousand sales total. Then that'd mean I'd be pretty deep in the red if I sold my game for $10. I'll sell my games for cheaper if I ever get super famous. I promise you.
>>719623323>AriPreorder cancelled
>>719623446It's in line with inflation rate. Hollow Knight was sold at $15 in 2017 and that's $20 today.>>719622779Their Game Pass deal is already more than enough to cover their development cost. Any sale is just bonus at this point.
>>719621001>Yet every other indieslop thinks they deserve a 25, 30, 40 dollar pricetagOnly a delusional tendie who never leaves their bubble would think this is true.
TC is literally killing women and children. Indie devs have families to feed, and now that TC has set the unrealistic standard of developing a good game for 20$, all these families are doomed
>>719623841>muh tendiesLook up any recent big indie game they retail at least 25 bucks nowadays
>>719621001Hollow Knight grossed over 300 million dollars over its lifetime. Even if a big chunk of that is taken by steam, Nintendo, Xbox and all the rest, Team Cherry turned a 50k dollar investment of money that wasnt even theirs into a 6000% profit marginThey dont feel the need to make Silksong expensive. Hell, I doubt they even feel the need to profit off of Silksong.
>>719624059this game asked like 10 times as much as hollow knight and made a linear action game with 1/5 the content simpler art less polish and souls ripoff mechanics
>>719622750Hollow Knight doesn't even have slopes
>>719624547If you want slopes, play a japanese game
>>719621001>Yet every other indieslop thinks they deserve a 25, 30, 40 dollar pricetag. You dont hate them enough.Going by that logic, we don't shit on Nintendo enough for pricing their shovelwareslops (such as ARMS, Mario Tennis Aces, Mario Golf Super Rush, Kirby Star Allies, etc.) at $60.
>>719624547You can't write slope without slop.
>>719624650>ARMS, Mario Tennis Aces, Mario Golf Super Rush, Kirby Star AlliesThey shouldn't even exist.
>>719621158Contrary to amerifat hours?
>>719624059it actually deserves its price tag tho it doesnt put you to sleep like sharty knight its rare chinkkino
>>719623372It's just been teased so long it built up.
>>719626597Nine Sols is the best game of 2024, but you still need to kill yourself
>>719626597nine sois treats the chinese like humans, but they are sub humans. See why it sucks?
>>719622750>hollow knight is a much, much bigger and more ambitious metroid-like than all indie and aaa competitors>it's the most boring game i've ever playedi've tried and failed to get further than 10 minutes after the mantis boss fight about 4 times now.
>>719621001You forgot>team cherry already said they're going to make free DLC for it after launchJust a few aussie lads having a good time, making games and making millions
>>719627459they make millions because they make games like in the old doom dayswhile everybody else is busy with graphics, sjw and tranny pandering and political messagesit turns out that you have to make a game based on fun and gameplay, not on political discourse to succeed
>>719627525I agree but in fairness, the game looks greatIt's 100% artstyle > graphical fidelityThey've got a workflow that gives them both high quality + rapid turnaroundThis is partly because 2D is inherently simpler, but stillThere are some upcoming low poly 3D games I'm more excited about than whatever AAA shiny graphics garbage will get shat out
>>719624771kek
>>719623956how do we ramp this number up?
>>719622750>hollow knight is a much, much bigger and more ambitious metroid-like than all indie and aaa competitorsI love Hollow Knight, but this isn't true at all. Cool it with the ultraglazing.
>>719621001>Yet every other indiekino thinks they deserve a 25, 30, 40 dollar pricetagyes, they do because they're infinitely better and more soulful than meme knight
wartales is pretty awesome even though they have 90 dlcs for it never tried hollow knight . not appealing to me nothing original or interesting is being done within 5 minutes of wartales its all original and unique and interesting takes on things
>>719621763wishlisted literally means "I'm waiting for a 70% sale to buy it". ShitKnight only sold what it did because of the hundred of sales it already appeared.
>>719623372buy of the gamepassing sirs
>>719621001if you're an indie and you want to charge more than 20 bucks you better fucking learn 3D game developmenti will never pay more than 20 dollars for a 2D game in 2025
>>719623956Will doesn't do his own dirty work.My animator walked into his bathroom and found Ari waiting for him with a gun. He told him to get on his knees and then stuck the pistol in his mouth. Asked if he believes in God, then let him know that no God would save him. Asked him to start begging, masturbated while he pleaded for his life. Put the barrel in his mouth and blew his top off. As he walked out he said to me, "He killed himself. If I start hearing otherwise, you might kill yourself too."Drove off in a 2003 gray Toyota Camry blaring "Boys in the Bright White Sports Car."Team Cherry are stone cold motherfuckers.
>>719627005Anon, what you are looking at is called oscar bait, specifically manufactured emotional reaction from your pavlov dog tier brain. Garbage like E33 did the same.
>>719627525deltarune is popular and is all about that. so is bg3the true blackpill is that "woke" rarely has anything to do with success, it's just that corporate rot has spread deep.are you telling me ac shadow would be a good game if floydsuke was replaced by an asian dude? it would still be slop made by kikes based on whatever other trend you replace woke with
>>719621001>Switch listingI hate Nintendo far more than any indie. Vast majority of indies are around $20-25 or less. This is not an exception.
>>719629203vast majority of indies are like 5 hours long.
>>719629409And Nintendo charged $60 for Dread, which is barely more than 5 hours long. Or I could get something like Risk of Rain Returns for $15 and get 100 hours out of it.>but roguelike reusingMetroidvanias constantly have you backtrack to reuse content and pad out their game time. Not that different. Most indies know how to make the most of what they have within their means, just like Silksong will.
>>719621001these two guys made like a hundred millionthey could sell this for freealso>5 year dev timelmao if you believe that
>>719629860>5 hoursWhy is this bad? It's a fucking Metroid game. You're supposed to beat it in one sitting then play it again. No Metroid or Castlevania was ever intended to take 40 fucking hours so I don't know why so-called Metroidvanias always need to be so long. I guess they know they have 0 replayability and their only appeal is the initial novelty factor.
TC were getting drunk and watching netflix, that's the realityThey already have enough money to live comfortably for the rest of time
>>719630136Yeah, I've beaten metroid dread a number of times. That's how the genre works.
>>719622750Someone is really huffing their own farts here
>>71962100120 is still too high imo, should have been 15
>>719621001Didn't play the first one and won't play this one either.
>>719630369You will get more replies if you say you are pirating it anyway
>>719630446But i don't want to play overhyped indie slop.
>>719630136Because they're charging $60 for a 5 hour game. Next one will be $70, maybe $80. That's why. Nothing wrong with a 5 hour game when priced appropriately. But I think you knew that.
>>719621001>Hiked the price by 33% compared to Hollow KnightThose greedy fucks won't get a cent from me
>>719630536>he doesn't just lie to get easy repliesDo you even reply farm
I dont think its fair to say that. Silksong had microsoft support and they also are very popular so they know they will sell at least a million copies. Its not the same if you have say a group of 5 or 6 guys working on a game with no big support from microsoft or snoy or whatever and not big hype like silksong so their game wont sell close to the sales of silksong.
>>719630910>microsoft supportthey removed the microtransactionsidk what support you are talking about anymore, is it because they conceded to be in goypass? a non issue if you ask me
First Hollow Knight was boringWhy would the sequel be any different?
>>719630549ZASED
>>719631328Improved movement and acrobatic mechanics and tighter overall pacing
I just want to goon man https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8JAkGq0QpNg
>>719628807imagine being a shazamtranny and having literally nothing better to do with your life than spam a taiwanese rhizome cultivation forum in the vain hope it will cause a random game about bugs to flop.
>>719631852Silksong has a chance to be the masterpiece people say Hollow Knight was.
