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>Still the last ARPG worth playing
Grim.
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>>719622846
all ARPGs fucking suck, they're the epitome of skinnerbox dopamine addict gameplay
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>>719623031
The phrase "dopamine addict" will never stop being funny to me
>dude you have an addiction to being happy
Uh, yeah, no shit?
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recommend some beginner friendly braindead builds
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>>719622846
Last Epoch is pretty good
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>>719623031
Are they goyslop for pajeet shill consoomer paypigs with buyer's remorse?
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>>719623198
bet you thought you were really fucking clever with that one huh fatass?
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>>719623198
Yeah, they probably mean something else, not really sure what though. Literally every single human on earth is a "dopamine addict" lol.
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>>719623031
False. Diablo 1 and 2 are great.
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>>719623235
I checked some footage but the game looks really...artificial? Something is off about the artstyle and the movement is super stiff. It looks like the dryest game in the genre. I don't see the appeal.
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>>719623332
>insert insult about retareded PoE marketeer shitposter

Last Epoch both looks great, and plays best of all ARPG, including Grimdawn, of which it took lot. Its foremost FUN ARPG with great mechanics making fighting hordes of mobs a joy, and best skill and items upgrades system.

Its only downside is same as all others - endgame is boring grind.
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>>719623394
That is not my impression AT ALL watching gameplay videos from youtube though. Looks super boring and bland.
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>>719623332
You’re pretty much right on the money. It’s Diablo 3 but worse in every way. It has no sauce and tries to do nothing interesting with the genre.
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>>719623449
>super boring and bland.
thats PoE

Last Epoch is Grim Dawn on steroids.
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>>719623483
Every post you make reeks of insecurity
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>>719623214
Sentinel. Start as occultist and use Dreeg's Evil Eye and Bloody Pox as your levelling skills.
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>>719623481
retard shitposter

In Last Epoch, i can dualwield two handed swords, raise attack speed x10 and animations will support it and make me a mincemeat grinder ingame. You dont have nearly similar freedom to develop fun builds in other ARPGs at all - with PoE2 being retarded slow wannabe soulslike and Diablo giving you 1 build and 2 buttons.
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>>719623575
I don't know. Not convinced.
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>>719622846
>FOA out never ever
I understand that the team at Crate works with a budget of one sandwich between all of them but come on
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>>719623628

Grim Dawn is honestly the standard for me now, that game is just too good. Last Epoch is actually pretty decent though I haven't went through the game since it was in EA. Even then I enjoyed it, the skill system alone is worth it imo, and I assume they only improved upon everything since I last played. I wish more ARPG's had LE's skill system, it's a brilliant idea and executed perfectly.
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>>719623214
Elementalist and stack lighting damage bonuses
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>>719623575
uh huh
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>>719623198
There are other hormones and chemicals that can make you happy.
Dopamine however is specifically targeted by the psychological design of these games, and all addiction is related to its imbalance.
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>>719623282
Yeah okay, Mr. Addicted to Being Sad.
>>719623838
Nice broscience. Tell me more.
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>>719623214
Forcewave soldier is the ultimate Grug. Second mastery doesn't even matter, but you could take Necro to go with the guaranteed Krieg's set in the endgame
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>>719623214
vindicator with primal strike
not viable for uber bosses but you aren't going to be doing those anyway
very simple, you click on a mob and everything on screen dies
alternatively - any minion build, you aren't even going to be doing any fighting yourself, very d2 necro esque
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>>719624021
Literally not wrong at all
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>>719623654
PLZ UNDERSTAND SAAR, WE HAVE TO CENSOR STUFF.
Her cleavage was completely removed.
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>>719624351
Proofs.
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>>719624351
The cleft is still there but it's more hidden by the harsh lighting from above. Tilt your LCD and you'll see it.
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>>719624351
it is a step down but we got tummy
you win some you lose some
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>>719623214
BWC Demo with the modifier that increases the cooldown. Sprinkle in Grenado, Mortar Trap, etc. Second mastery Arcanist or Shaman if you're a pleb, Oathkeeper if you're a real nigga
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>>719622846
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>>719626524
>posts a guy who's yawn personified
huh?
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You guys know any ARPGs in a tech/science fiction setting? I'm tired of dark fantasy (diablo/grim dawn/path of exile etc) or magictech (torchlight, sacred).

I remember darkspore but that game failed so fucking hard they removed it from steam after like 2 months.
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>>719626524
>he doesn't grind while sleeping
ngmi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EISGG9zRc3A
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>>719627082
There's only Warhammer 40k Inquisitor
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>>719627082
Space Siege. It's not very good.
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>>719627082
Restricted Area
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>>719623654
The fact that they're still strapping shit onto Grim Dawn instead of just making Grim Dawn 2 is insane to me. I like GD a lot but it's so fucking old, even in a lot of their dev talks about Fangs of Asterkarn they have to talk about the issues of working around such an old framework. Just the werewolf transformation for the new class required a lot of work to implement changing the player character model.
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>>719627082
The Ascent
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why no GD2?
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>>719628241
After they finish Farthest Frontier, Fangs of Asterkarn and the unannounced survival? game.
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>>719628346
>Farthest Frontier
>a fucking city builder out of nowhere?
but why? I though they were developing gd2 for a very long time at this point?
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>>719623575
>i can dualwield two handed swords, raise attack speed x10
So Diablo 2 barbarian?
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>>719628458
I may be wrong, but I think they have only a few guys working on a new engine which can take a while, that's why they're working on those other games on the old engine so other people have work to do.
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>>719628616
>so other people have work to do
Why not have them work on that engine too? Or other assets for a sequel if they don't have the skillset?
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>>719628587
Diablo doesnt have attack speed stat. Last Epoch does and due to great item upgrade system you can stack specific stats as much you want. So rogue can dualwield 2h swords with tornado speed, and it looks great.

PoE has attack speed stat too, but you can stack like 10% max, in LA you can have 200% or more. It affects not just base attacks, but skill animations too. Overall LA is probably the most fun one due to skills actually changing alot by upgrades, and you being able to build whatever insane stats by item upgrades and idols.
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>>719622846
GD kinda sucks. Most builds feel the same.
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>>719628694
>Diablo doesnt have attack speed stat
What a retard.
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>>719628031
Thanks anons I will look into them
>>719627330
If it's what I'm thinking of, I think I've tried it and quality was just too low to be useful.

I'll take top-down/twin-stick space sims too as long as they are focused on looting, upgrading equipment and skills. Nienix had some of the systems (skill tree, random loot) but it had like all of 4 equipment slots and visual clarity was poor.
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>>719623198
buzzwords gonna buzzword. in arpg cases gambling addict is more appropriate as the behavior and reward cycle is similar to a slot machine

>>719626524
kripp calling it out like it is. This is the guy that was super addicted to D3 being the only on to beat HC diablo on highest difficulty (pre nerf) and then fell asleep playing as it was too boring. then he moved onto poe and not even pussy plus card game shilling with its big bucks has made him let it go completely
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>>719623235
Last Epoch also sold out to Krafton. Well, it was fun while it lasted.
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>>719628683
because they have no money and are constantly verging on the edge of bankruptcy. aka your typical game dev studio
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>>719629036
>I'll take top-down/twin-stick space sims too as long as they are focused on looting, upgrading equipment and skills.
In that case, you might like 'Space Pirates and Zombies.'
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>>719628694
this is one of the most blatantly paid for posts I have ever seen on this website
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>>719629435
>no money
anon, farthest frontier sold over a million copies and don't forget, crate entertainment is like 10 people who are core devs
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Functionally, I fail to see the difference between playing crap like this and normalfag goyslop like borderlands. Both are the polar opposite of actual video games and I have no idea what possesses retards to make the same exact rpg threads every day



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