this was the only reason people gave 2 shits about bg3, ESL-kun

I think its because its a game only adults jaded with similar systems could appreciate fully. It feels like every good idea you could employ in such a game is done here even up to the extent that breaking the game and exploiting encounters feels like correct problem solving in the hardest difficulties. The game feels mature enough to reward you for thinking outside the box.

>>719633980
Combat is even more broken than BG3, and not in a fun way

>>719633980
Where is the D&D branding? I can't enjoy fantasy unless it's D&D. I don't interact with off brand D&D (anything fantasy that isn't explicit D&D)

>>719633980
Disgusting reddit-tier writing

>>719635472
based physical/magical armor hater

>>719633980
because it's a trash game. and bg3 isn't

>>719635265
There's no such thing as thinking outside the box, especially not in this dogshit moblie phone tier game

I played DOS2 multiplayer so i dont remember any of the story/characters.

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>>719633980
Before you ever make a thread going "Why does nobody discuss [game here]" make sure you search the game's name up on the archive. We don't have daily DOS2 threads because the game is 8 years olds and BG3, Larian's most recent game, released 2 years ago.

>>719633980
not enough reddit humour/writing and cutscenes

>>719633980
It doesnt have the narrative strength of BG3 which is what people look out for the most in an rpg.

>>719635628
>5e slop
>isnt trash
kek secondary tourist

>>719635472
This was me literally but I played so much NWN that I need a break.

>>719633980
if you play it without knowing about it before hand, it is extremely tedious. this game is extremely biased towards magic and you cant doos vault your way out of anything

>>719633980
it was a poopoo in the style of peepee

Necrofire is awful and gives me ptsd

>>719633980
>better than Baldurs Gate 3
No, it's a good crpg but not as good as BG3. It would be a good game if the game didn't use fire everywhere in every encounter. BG3 has elemental stuff but nowhere near as much as Div OS2.

>>719633980
I've beaten this game twice while I still haven't been able to get past act 1 in BG3

>>719636646
man I don't know all physical build is pretty easy

>>719635526
I'm not sure why this opinion is regurgitated so often. The writing is above average for CRPG, particularly the companion writing and quests, and it's downright laugh out loud funny at times.

I feel like people instantly call the writing shit just because the game is more laid-back and whimsical, but still knows when to take itself seriously and deliver heartfelt moments. That's not bad writing.

>>719633980
it's not

>>719633980
It's my favorite CRPG and second favorite game of all time. The reason you don't hear /v/ talk about it is simply because /v/ barely plays games and has shit taste in the few they do play, oftentimes getting filtered by deep, complex, or challenging games.

/v/'s idea of a 10/10 RPG masterpiece is fucking Pokemon or FF7 that they played when they were 8 years old. That should tell you all you need to know.

>>719633980
It's a very challenging and hardcore CRPG for CRPG old heads that's very difficult to get into.

oldfags don't talk about it because they are jaded fags who refuse to acknowledge anything new as good, or even play it at all for that matter.

newfags don't talk about it because it is much too complex and challenging for them and they instantly get filtered and blame the game for their lack of skill and intelligence.

Because normies weren't playing CRPGs when D:OS2 was released.

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>>719635690
Or maybe you're just unimaginative blob of flesh, who can't think of anything himself. You're the guy they make the map markers and yellow paint for.

>>719633980
Tying Movement to AP is an annoying system that makes Teleport the best defensive spell in the back and the ability to teleport is something every class will 100% dip two points into multiple skills regardless of build.

Beyond that it's a much more interesting world to explore then BG3.

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It was somehow so much worse than DOS1. Had to give up halfway through. I really enjoyed DOS1 however

>>719642256
>It was somehow so much worse than DOS1
you're trying too hard contrarian faggot. always the retards that never even beat it spewing this shit.

>>719642329
Fuck you bloody bastard. I'm just telling what I thought about the game. And no I'm not going to beat a game that's barely enjoyable

Building characters is very open ended you can slap anything on anyone that has enough points in a skill. Traditional archetypes barely exist. Fights are like puzzles at times or throw different specific checks at your builds. The act maps can be rather open too so you might run into something you're not prepared for, or are actually prepared for but didn't play it right the first time you started the fight. Videogames are all about making players feel like they're discovering things on their own while they're actually walking through a set path by the devs, gamers hate when you actually give them freedom.

>>719642329
- Physical/magical armor sucks ASS
- Physical/magical armor removed most reasons to use CC except for the rare foes who have low armor and high health
- Physical/magical armor removed most reasons to engage with the field interactions like liquids and gases and how they change based on new elements which was one of the best parts of the original
- Physical/magical armor fucked party balance. You either go 2/2 or 4/0. If you go 3/1 the last guy is literally completely useless.
- No reason to use 99% of skills except 1. Big damage skill 2. Teleport
- 99 gorillion ways to teleport
- Character building became stupid. Just stack warfare for physical, even if you're an archer or rogue or necromancer, or whatever boosts your element damage for magic. Thats literally it, thats the character build
- Removed co-op roleplaying mechanics from DOS1
- Less sense of whimsical fantasy adventure than DOS1
- Massively falls off when you get to the jungle
- Pick your own character with a defined background = all characters are irrelevant to the story, your role in the story is interchangeable. Imagine if like in KOTOR your main character could have been Carth or Bastila or whoever instead of who it actually is

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>>719643583
They rebalanced the game to have more viable build variety beyond the utterly braindead initiative and CC spam of the first game where the enemy doesn't even get a turn, and filtered retard shitters cry nonstop about it to this day.

I'm not even going to reply to your points because it is blatantly obvious you do not understand this game at any even remotely high level and probably have not even beat it on Tactician. You are wrong on almost every point and even for noLW honour mode, there are dozens of viable builds where essentially every ability in the entire game has some purpose or niche.

>>719640939
>He thinks dropping a crate on something in a game designed around it is thinking outside the box
I'm older than you and don't play CRPGs for zoomers like Larian's trash so no

>>719633980
1 was better. The armor and movement system in two ruined build diversity.

>>719644260
Jesus christ it really is always you who make these dogshit D:OS2 shill threads

>>719633980
>Female lizards
>Downgrade to animatronic head tier dragonborn in 5e
Swen blink twice if you were held at gunpoint while designing that race for bg3

>>719638609
He didn't call it shit he called it reddit. I'm not sure what that means since I don't personally use reddit.

>>719635542
NTA but it's such stupid design and force you to balance things to survive onslaught

>>719644260
Nice reddit spreadsheet

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>>719643583
>Character building became stupid. Just stack warfare for physical, even if you're an archer or rogue or necromancer, or whatever boosts your element damage for magic. Thats literally it, thats the character build
No, that's literally not it, you fucking retard. And this is in direct conflict to your other point
>No reason to use 99% of skills except 1. Big damage skill 2. Teleport
>99 gorillion ways to teleport
where you just casually mention to throw teleport and movement abilities on every fucking character despite these requiring a massive multi-classing opportunity cost. So which is it? Or are you just full of shit and have no idea what you're talking about because you've never even beat the game on tactician, let alone honour mode.


>Physical/magical armor fucked party balance. You either go 2/2 or 4/0. If you go 3/1 the last guy is literally completely useless.
You have this idea that because something isn't the mathematical most optimal means it's bad or not viable. YouTube guides and wikias have rotted your brain to where you can't even play and enjoy a game without metagaming the most powerful build to try to trivialize as much of the game as possible, and even then you STILL fail because you completely lack tactics and game sense to know how to use that team and approach combat scenarios.

There are a ton of great abilities in the physical tree and in the magic tree that can help round out your team. Even with 3/1, your 1 phy/magic can isolate and solo an enemy with a low amount of respective armor/magic as well as providing CC and utility (there are like a dozen CCs that can go through armor btw).

It's just all fucking nonsense where people have no understanding of the game just continually regurgitate each other's bullshit, just the blind leading the fucking blind.

>>719644571
Ruined build diversity??? DOS1 was almost entirely initiative dumping and CC spam where the enemy team never even got to move if you knew what you were doing.

DOS2 created the armor system and the round robin system to address these issues, and as a result has much more viable builds, much better combat encounters and bossfights, and much more nuanced approaches to combat.

>>719644649
They don't really look that bad.

>>719644832
>massive cost
Lol wut
All my characters had a movement skill. He didn't mean literally only teleportation itself.

>>719644945
>DOS1 was almost entirely initiative dumping and CC spam where the enemy team never even got to move if you knew what you were doing.
D:OS2 is the exact same

>>719644945
You're proving my point. Ds1 was ankle deep and ds2 dumbed THAT down further. No clue why cultists praise these 7/10 games so much.

>>719645097
There is like a half dozen movement skills plus teleport, obviously you don't need all movement skills but having a couple can be helpful for when they're on c/d. In either case, it's not just warfare dump like the retard claimed.

>>719645116
Can you at least keep your story straight?

Here >>719643583
you said
>removed most reasons to use CC except for the rare foes who have low armor and high health
and
>No reason to use 99% of skills except 1. Big damage skill 2. Teleport

>>719645176
How is nerfing the OP centralized strategy of the first game where you don't even interact with the enemies because they don't get a turn "dumbing down the game"? Another retard who has never even played, let alone beat, the games on Tactician.

>>719643583
trvke

>>719644260
>>719645381
>ahahahaha no one but me has beaten this piss easy game
go take a shower

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>>719645176
>most deep and challenging combat with the absolute best encounter designs and bossfights of any CRPG or JRPG
>meh they are dumbed down 7/10 games, btw I never actually beat them

>>719645552
In other words, no, (You) haven't actually beat them. Thanks for that.

>>719645685
no, you haven't beat the game
cope

The game would be great if not for the shitty armor system that forces you to either be all physical or all magic if you don't want to hamstring your party.

>>719633980
>Why no one ever talks about it?
We talked about it a ton when it can out and we still have threads on /v/ from time to time.
>Beast
>Sebille
>Lohse
Was my team.

female lizards are just so fucking peak, bros
I just can't make myself play anything else, even though I want to do the premade characters' stories

>>719633980
It was okay but I stopped after the first chapter
I do like the music though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX50_C5EckI

>>719645953
It doesn't force that at all, you fucking retard. It's like one filtered shitter spews this garbage and then it just gets regurgitated over and over and over and over and over by hordes of retards online who just blindly accept it as truth, and who can't just play a game naturally and teambuild, but must rely on youtube man and the wikia to tell them the mathematically optimized best build in existence.

You see in this very fucking thread, a dozen different builds even for fucking SOLO HONOUR, that utilize phys, magic, and even hybrid, yet you still feel the need to peddle this shit. Too bad you're trash at the game, because looking up a build online doesn't help at all with tactics or how to approach individual bosses or encounters, and arguably makes you worse because you have no intuitive understanding of what your team is or why it works, you just download an opinion and build from the internet.

>>719646205
>but I stopped after the first chapter
LOL you stopped right after finishing the tutorial?

>>719646382
Hybrid will ALWAYS be worse than targeting a single armor type. It's the nature of the game.
And solo is far easier than a full party because Lone Wolf is broken.

DOS2 is the least amount of fun I've had playing a video game. It never really clicked for me like I hoped it would. Put 40 hours into the game before dropping it. What did I do wrong, bros? Or is the game simply designed for people who don't enjoy fun?

>>719645381
What story do I need to keep straight you obsessed schizo?
I wasn't the anon you were replying to in the first place, how many threads are you going to make just to get humbled by dozen of people?

>>719646418
It must be like 10 years since I played it, I think I out of fort joy?

>>719638609
>it's downright laugh out loud funny at times
yeah. the whole game is this surreal juxtaposition of grimdark and irreverent. it's a horrible combo and undermine both at the same time. they should've just gone all-in on the low-brow babyhumor.

>>719646712
Are you fucking dense and illiterate? Solo Lonewolf is not stronger than fucking duo Lonewolf. And one of those charts is for solo NO LONEWOLF.

And no, it's not "the nature of the game", it's splitting hairs over two completely viable builds and different playstyles with pros and cons that are absolutely viable even for the absolute hardest mode of the game. Try playing the game yourself instead of just blindly copying some wikia build without even understanding the mechanisms behind it.

>>719646860
8 years

>armor system
>godawful RNG gear you need to swap every level up
>elemental vomit
>every character is a teleporting super saiyan
Nah, it's considerably worse than BG3 gameplay wise

>>719646924
>guy citing wiki builds says to stop basing my opinion of the game I've beaten multiple times on wiki builds
Is this just trolling? Are you le ebin trole?

You need mods. Epic Encounters makes the game actually enjoyable.

>>719646832
Once you solve the combat, it loses its charm. The most fun parts are the first few hours where you are barely scraping by. Once you can reliably do physical or magic dmg, it becomes braindead easy.

>>719633980
larian didn't pay streamers to shill it like they did for zoomer's gate 3

>>719646960
>armor system
already debunked dozens of times. This and round robin were a much needed balance change to the initiative and CC spam of the first game and allows tons more viable builds and greater balance and expression in combat

>godawful RNG gear you need to swap every level up
first of all, level ups are fairly and large power jumps considering you only reach around level 20-22 in a 40-80 hour game. Secondly, a strong armor piece particularly a unique and/or one with great stat bonuses or innate skills

>elemental vomit
you mean environmental interactions? That's one of the main appeals of the game, but there are still plenty of viable builds that don't use this

>every character is a teleporting super saiyan
I mean if you deliberately go out of your way to multi-class in multiple different schools in order to get all their movement abilities at the huge cost of your primary skills and overall damage, then... yeah, no shit.

>>719647308
>solve combat
let me guess, you barely scrape by on explorer even using online builds. Fuck off retard, play on Tactician, or honour, or solo honour to truly appreciate the combat system, try different builds for a totally different perspective.

DOS2 is one of the most replayable games with one of the deepest and most challenging combat systems. What particularly makes it great is the encounter design and bosses which are like individual puzzles where you can't just use a one-size-fits-all approach, and must have unique strategies for each fight (outside of blatantly broken cheese exploits like barrelmancy)

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>>719633980
I hate that there isn't a procedurally generated/horde mode anywhere, and that everything is as-designed with nothing ever changing.
These games have a super interesting/engaging combat system but it's trapped inside a totally static game.
I just don't get it.

>>719647602
>This and round robin were a much needed balance change to the initiative and CC spam
you fucking retard. they made it even stronger because the second you strip the armor the enemy is helpless and the combat is over. so every single party comp in this game just leans to DPS race

>>719633980
I prefer it to BG3. BG3 makes me want to play Divinity or actual D&D.

>>719636646
You what? It's incredibly easy to make an unkillable dude that hits things with a sword.

>>719633980
the combat is SIGNIFICANTLY better in DOS2. like 2 or 3x as good/fun.
Literally everything else is 10-50x worse. Characters, world, storytelling, quests, interactivity.

>>719647863
No the fuck they aren't. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Some enemies have small amounts of armor/magic armor and huge amounts of HP. All stripping armor/magic armor does is make that combat encounter how every combat encounter starts in DOS1, except it's still not even that bad, because initiative isn't completely fucking broken in DOS2 like it is in DOS1.

And again, if you think that stripping their armor means you won the fight, then how the fuck do you come to the conclusion that it's just a "DPS race"? The WHOLE FUCKING POINT of stripping armor is so that you can use CC abilities freely on enemies. Again, you can't even keep your fucking story straight because you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>719648021
>Literally everything else is 10-50x worse. Characters, world, storytelling, quests, interactivity.
That is a MASSIVE overstatement.

>>719648105
>Some enemies have small amounts of armor/magic armor and huge amounts of HP
and it doesn't fucking matter
the second they lose armor THEY ARE FUCKING DEAD
they will spend the rest of their time perma-ccd or turned into a ruptured chicken
absolutely godawful, braindead, trashy system

>>719635265
dos1 lets you think outside the box. 2 however is no fun allowed

>>719647602
>let me guess, you barely scrape by on explorer even using online builds. Fuck off retard, play on Tactician, or honour, or solo honour to truly appreciate the combat system, try different builds for a totally different perspective.
No I played on Tactician blind. It was incredibly easy. Highground crossbow ranger with bloodpool, aero+lightning mage, main character some physical dmg and another fire+earth mage steamrolled the game. You can literally craft infinite charm arrows and barely anything is immune to it.

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The game is good but also ass because save scumming is basically a requirement. You have random ass encounters (thankfully less later on) that will party wipe you if you dare to walk down a random street. You’re absolutely fucked if you don’t have the mod on that disables the need for resurrection scrolls

>>719648170
Only if you break every enemy's armor and have enough CC to keep the entire enemy team all CC'ed simultaneously. And you literally just said how you want to focus on pure DPS to get rid of their armor quickly, while simultaneously having a massive amount of CC to keep them perma-locked? Again, you don't know what you're talking about and can't keep your story straight. All this while you also praise DOS1 despite DOS1 having this same issue except much worse because you don't even need to shred their armor first, and you don't even lett the enemy team have a turn due to lack of round robin.

Again, you have not beat tactician, and you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

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>>719648163
Understatement if anything.
I can remember a single party member's name.
I remember a single point of interest.
I don't remember a single quest.
I do however remember quite a few fights because the gameplay was really enjoyable.

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>Divinity 2
>see tight corridor between me and some enemies
>summon water in the corridor and electrify it
>enemies can't reach me without getting stunned/damaged

>BG3
>same scenario
>summon water in the corridor
>now have to wait until the next turn
>enemies are already in my face

>>719647065
No, he's actually that retarded.

>>719648621
>Only if you break every enemy's armor and have enough CC to keep the entire enemy team all CC'ed simultaneously
pfffft you can literally drown enemies in status effects you coping moron, this is never an issue, as long as your DPR is enough to break priority target's armor in a turn the fight is OVER

>>719648170
>bro just break all their armor and magic armor with massive DPS
>but also keep them perma CC'ed and don't let them move
>but also have a million blinks and TP by multi-classing in a half dozen different schools
>but also use all these really strong utility and buff/debuff skills
That's not how it works retard.

>>719648772
nuh uh
Deboonked999x times

>>719648839
>all their armor and magic armor
you only need to break 1 armor type
they will not outlive the next round
os2 fans are massive brainlets, seriously, this godawful system is perfect for you niggers because you don't have enough brain cells to see why it's so fucked

>>719648772
Status effects are CC you fucking dense moron. And breaking the armor of every enemy in the fight is not fucking trivial, that's more than half the fight. And you can't just be a jack of all trades like you so casually suggest, as focusing on DPS takes away from CC and mobility, and vice versa.

Post your solo honour run or shut the fuck up and fuck off you absolute retard

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Why did nobody beat the game?

>>719648954
You haven't even beat tactician mode. Why haven't you killed yourself yet retard?

>>719649014
>And breaking the armor of every enemy in the fight is not fucking trivial
oh noe i disable priority targets and DPR the lower priority targets on a second round, how insanely hard!
jesus fuck, are all OS2 dickriders this braindead?

>>719649085
>>719649014
You do realize that people don't play that right?

>>719636646
Physical comes with the advantage of every source of damage being complimentary to each other, and never being in a position where one party member gets cucked by an absorption.

>>719649019
Because only the act 1 is fun to play. The story is so dreadfully boring people just drop it, and there's nothing mechanically new and exciting in the late game.

>>719633980
This is so much worse than the first game. The first was fun an whimsical like a Terry Pratchett novel. This one tones down on the whimsy and way up on the woke.

>>719648954
>[thing] seems easy when I massively oversimplify it and describe it an extremely reductive manner
>the reason why I haven't beat tactician is because uhhhhhhh.... it's actually TOO EASY.. hah!
pathetic, kys lmao

>>719649304
I don't know what to tell you anon. We never had any issues like you did.

>>719649247
>there's nothing mechanically new and exciting in the late game.
There absolutely is, the game has a very distinct strategy and meta for early-game, mid-game, and late-game. That progression is one of the most satisfying aspects of the game.

>>719649304
i'm sorry you got so thoroughly blown the fuck out
thankfully 5e turned out to be a vastly superior ruleset for vidya so they will never go back to this dreadful system ever again

>>719649419
>meta
oh yeah, the late game meta of "spam source powers to roll everything into the dirt lmaoe"
mortifying

>>719649247
>nothing mechanically new and exciting in the late game.
There's a bunch of enemies that make you want to kill yourself for going elemental over physical.

Game is alright, combat is disappointing coming from bg3

>>719649360
>>719649432
You haven't even beat the game on tactician, no one is listening to you or cares what you have to say.

Would you listen to a noodle arm who can barely bench the bar who tells you that weightlifting is easy? oh wait...

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>>719633980
>Why no one ever talks about it?
It's the second best selling CRPG after Baldur's Gate 3, very cool mechanics and full co-op support, it blew the fuck up and made Larian one of the top RPG devs, and is the sole reason they could spend so much money on BG3, all from the sales of this game

/v/ is just too dumb for CRPGs and generally doesn't touch anything that's more challenging than Dragon Age

>>719649625
That's the point. Nobody bothered even beating tactician. One run was more than enough to put the game on the shelf

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>>719649625
>LALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU CAN'T HEAR YOU
and this is why you've lost, your franchise is forgotten and Swen fucked off to make a sci-fi game

>>719649706
There's like a dozen crpg threads in /vrpg/ at all times and divinity never pops up

>>719649526
Obviously source powers are a major aspect of the game both in terms of narrative and gameplay. The isane combos of the late game are a ton of fun, and the enemies are extremely strong to compensate. It's the culmination of everything you've been working towards throughout the game.

>>719633980
Because RPGs require a lot of time investment, and people on /v/ don't play games, especially longer ones.

Which is why, when people shit on a given title, they use the exact same handful of screenshots, with the exact same handful of talking points.

It was talked about extensively. Most of /v/ is casual normies and they can't play white games so it doesn't last long.

>>719649719
If there is one thing that is completely undeniable, is that Larianchads won. Not just won, but won BIGLY. DOS2 and BG3 are both massive and resounding commercial, critical, and artistic successes, and there is more on the way. We eating good, kings.

>>719649787
only thing crpg fans talk about is SEXSEXSEX, DoS2 is bad in that aspect, therefore no threads

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>>719649959
Based. Leave it to stinky brown people on /v/ to not understand the appeal of a CRPG made by white people for white people.

>>719649959
It's a large trend of European studios in general getting more and more of a foothold/dominance.

This is especially obvious in certain genres. RPGs are one of those.

Survival horrors are an even more blatant case:
>Pathologic Series
>Penumbra Series
>Amnesia Series
>Alan Wake Series
>SOMA
>Signalis
>Silent Hill 2 (Remake)
>Nobody Lives Under the Lighthouse
>Tension
>Knock! Knock!
>Crow Country
>World of Horror
>Who's Lila?
>Darkwood

And those are only off the top of my head. There's still the meme of Japanese studios being good at survival horror, when they haven't produced anything interesting in the last 15 years at least, except maybe P.T., a fucking tech demo you can finish in an hour.

>>719649959
no, no, don't lump the putrid garbage that is OS2 with an excellent BG3
it's fantastic that BG3 propelled them into mainstream so they will never touch their dreadful homebrew again

CRPG enjoyers
is Rogue Trader any good?

>>719650334
no, all owlshat games belong in the trash

>>719650210
>cont.

Then look at RPGs, especially recently:
>Pathfinder: Kingmaker
>Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous
>Rogue Trader
>Cyberpunk 2077
>The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
>ELEX
>Underrail
>Expeditions: Rome
>Gothic: Chronicles of Myrtana
>Atomic Heart
>Divinity: Original Sin II
>Baldur's Gate III
>Disco Elysium

If not for Obsidian still producing titles, the genre would be completely dominated by European studios.

>>719650334
Yes, one of the best written modern CRPGs at the bare minimum and by far the best 40k game.

>>719650334
Ignore the retard, it's very good and an equally good introduction to the setting.

The only major flaw is that they have at least two more DLCs planned + the inevitable Enhanced Edition, so it's not complete.

>>719650334
Combat is dogshit compared to DOS2/BG3.

My experience of it (3 player co-op) was ruined by my friend looking up some one shot build online, trivializing the whole thing

>>719650704
people who look up builds online are such faggots
why even play the game at that point? it's like looking up the answers to an exam you won't even get graded for

>>719650704
probably barrelmancy, which is basically an exploit that they just left in the game because it was a funny interaction. There are plenty of strong builds, but nothing even remotely close to barrelmancy where it just outright one-shots everything in the game with no thought.

Tell your friend he is a faggot.

>>719633980
DOS1 and 2 are dogshit reddit slop for people who don't actually like CRPGd, both the mechanics and the writing. tries to have grimdark, pickle rick and immersive sim mechanics in the same 5 min interval.
haven't played BG3, and i never will if it's even worse than these

>>719650704
Impossible. DS2 is the hardest CRPG ever created

>>719635472
You are an enormous faggot.

>>719650334
I played it on launch. It was pretty good. Waiting for them to be done with it before I do replay.

>>719649432
5E is fucking awful and BG3 is mechanically inferior.

>>719633980
Everything good about this game is heavily frontloaded, and the entire magic/physical damage split is just retarded.

>>719650898
>DS2
Why are you retarded? That's not how abbreviations work.

And yes, using a literal exploit to one-shot every enemy tends to ruin the challenge of a game.

>>719651090
Are you autistic?

>>719651239
Correct. Do you have a problem with that?

>>719651046
Act 1 is an 11/10
Act 2 is a 10.5/10
Act 3 is a 9/10
Act 4 is an 8.5/10 (unfortunately rushed)

Act 3 is a really nice change of pace from the previous chapters and is more of an open-ended combat gauntlet. It's short and even if you really don't gel with it, it's short and inoffensive.
Act 4 has a lot of great ideas and fights, like the bridge fight, the doctor fight, and the kraken fight, and there are some great questlines. But unfortunately, the interactivity and reactivity starts to crumble a bit under its own weight, and it is clearly a bit rushed.

Act 3 and 4 could only ever look "bad" in comparison to the absolute masterpiece that are Act 1 and Act 2, but they are still in the absolute upper echelon compared to vast majority of CRPGs out there. Act 1 and Act 2 are like 60-70% of the game though, and both are absolutely fantastic.

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>look up what CRPG stands for
>computer role playing game

>>719651404
It explains why you don't understand sarcasm.

>>719633980
In DOS2 the camera doesn't zoom in when people talk, like it's a game from 1999.

>>719651046
Maybe on release.
Act 3 is the worst part, and that's largely by how barebones and short it is.
Arx is vastly better now compared to release

>>719649719
>posting your faggot neck tattoo dark sclera durge with shitty edgelord dag writing
Just fucking die, faggot. You're an embarassment, nerd. You were not bullied hard enough.

>>719635917
>5e bad
millennial detected

>>719652989
5e is boring shit. Just because you’re new to it thanks to bg3 doesn't mean the rest of us aren't aware of its many shitty flaws and the fact that the refresh didn't fix shit.

>>719652989
reminder that they currently made Smite into a spell. 5e is shitiest shit to ever shit

I just really dislike the final boss fight. You spend the whole game approaching fights carefully to give you as much of an advantage you can, and the final boss just teleports every party member in a clump before it starts. Not especially hard, just dissapointing.

Same with that black ring head honcho at the nameless isle, no armor so he just gets permaknocked down.

>>719655109
The final fight is far better if you just focus fire Braccus and kill him before he has a chance to open his mouth.
IMO the godking plotline should have been wrapped up as a pre finale, not as the real final fight. Sins and Gods is the perfect battle to end it on.

>>719633980
I didn't like the origin stuff.
I kind of liked the dynamic between the two protagonists in the first game more.
My femelo hero was a pussy that would agree to anything that the male said, while guy ended up being a giga contrarian that would say no to anything even when it was to our benefit.
Made those times when the game would swap control before auto interacting with a npc a pain in the ass.

>>719650334
Yes, but chaos runs are underwhelming and just shit in general.
Stick to iconocuck unironically.

Reminder that Fane is the MC and Ifan is his sidekick.

>>719633980
theres no sex so faggots cant self insert

>>719649787
v has shit taste its all plantscape which no one has played

deathfog made the game extremely easy

>>719655567
Yeah the origin system really shafted a lot of personality your companions had as well companions. They managed to correct it for BG3 but I do wish we get a return to custom character duos(or more if they're keeping 4 player coop) in the next game. I honestly think DOS 1 did a better job of coop than 2. Really felt better at capturing the multiple protagonists feeling than DOS 2 and BG3 did. Also my memory might be failing me but didn't the first game also have the option to automate your partner's choices? Not sure how useful it was since the few times I played it, I was doing coop

>>719633980
joke tier story and dialogue

>>719661148
Retard

Ehh it scratches two archtype itches for me in turn-based RPGs. The blood mage and the single big dude type of summoner. It's not an over complicated playstyle but I always find myself drifting back to the incarnate whenever I replay the game

>>719660697
>Also my memory might be failing me but didn't the first game also have the option to automate your partner's choices? Not sure how useful it was since the few times I played it, I was doing coop
You can, the ai can also adapt to your playstyle.
That was why the partner who I usually left to the AI ended up submissive while the guy I played as wanted to get his way no matter what.

>>719635265
>outside the box
This doesnt really make any sense.
Outside of like glitches and y'know... actual exploits, most things you can do in the game would have been tested and designed explicitly to be used in all the ways you chose to.