are you excited for the upcoming mtg set releasing on MTG ARENA (videogame)
Standard sucks, and has always sucked.But sometimes it REALLY sucks.
Haha, poo-slinging
DAMN YOU SPIDER-MAN FOR SHITTING EVERYWHERE
what even is magic anymore? at least yugioh is consistent.
>>719645576>That's why I.do what I do. Doodoo, for the poopy.
>>719645810it's rebranded as a Fortnite TCG.
>>719645810>at least yugioh is consistent.consistent in being the most unintuitive shit card game?
>>719645656Vivi is one of the most pushed cards in recent memory. Why does it just give mana as a 0 instead of tapping? Why can the mana be used for anything? Why is it +1/+1 instead of prowess? If it's not prowess, why not limit it to instants and sorceries, why should a spellslinging card care about artifacts and enchantments? Why does it burn? Nadu was (allegedly) a mistake because they changed his design last minute for commanderbabs, but there's no excuse for Vivi.
>>719645998>Nadu was (allegedly) a mistake because they changed his design last minute for commanderbabssir...final fantasy is a set made for troonmander that somehow was approved to be standard legal
>>719645998Vivi is designed for commander is whyit doesnt tap so commanderfags can attack with it every turnit pays for everything because commanderfags need to cast their mana rocks and pushed permanentsits counters instead of prowress because enemies have 40 life in commander it burns because it also needs to deal damage to multiple people since commander is 4 players
>finally get your dream collab (marvel sloppa)>game is clearly designed with arena first at this point and it can't be used there due to licensing issues>general public has all but completely turned on the IP at this point so it's doomed to sell worse than that stupid video game set you had to do beforehandhow hard is rosewater seething right now
>>719646290>general public has all but completely turned on the IP at this pointThe marvel slop secret lairs sold out in under 2 minutes with the exception of black panther and captain america. That said, spiderman is 100% going to do worse than final fantasy.
>>719646290>how hard is rosewater seething right nowImmensely You should see his barrage of articles of>UMMMM ACTUALLY CROSSOVER SETS ARE GOOD>WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO ADMIT THAT CROSSOVER SETS ARE WHATS IDEAL FOR MAGIC>CROSSOVER SETS ARE JUST LIKE NORMAL SETS AND ONLY CHUDS THINK OTHERWISEIts been hilarious
>>719646554>Secret LairThe retards who buy secret lair barely count as people. Anyone shelling out those ridiculous premiums for some 6 or so disparate cards you probably won’t even use for deckbuilding is sub-fucking-human.
>>719645981consistent in themes and mechanics. blue eyes white dragon is still the strongest normal monster to this day. spellcasters are tricky with spells like yugi's deck.the fuck is magic now that they have final fantasy and spiderman
>>719647350you dont play modern yugioh
Here's your spider man set (not to be confused with Spider-Man™ set)
>>719645998>Why does it just give mana as a 0 instead of tapping? Why can the mana be used for anything? Why is it +1/+1 instead of prowess? If it's not prowess, why not limit it to instants and sorceries, why should a spellslinging card care about artifacts and enchantments?Runaway Steamkin did all of this too. They just roided it up to 9000 because fuck you
>>719645981There’s some things unintuitive in yugioh like missing the timing but at least reading the card explains the card magic the gathering nowadays is when [pop culture reference] enters Poopshift all non-land permanents with Ligma, Paddleboard 2
>playing past hasbro selloutnah I'm good
>>719647457why troll?
>>719647854>reading the card explains the cardi don't even play mtg nowadays but come on man, mtg is better at that than yugioh.
>>719645656I lived through Urza Saga combo winter and Mirrordin affinityThis shit is worse because they should know better, but simply don't care because Commanderfags killed MTG
>>719647854>having effect keywords you can learn the first time you encounter a card with one is bad>instead lets put a novela on every card that isn’t a Normal Monster that’s way more intuitive and won’t bog down game flow to a crawl
>>719645998Vivi is the 30th example of 'maybe this time we can fix storm'. It would be an overpowered standard card with commander potential at 5 mana.
>>719645576.....this can't be real
just play eternal card game instead>campaign>PvE gauntlet mode>multiplayer casual or ranked>draft against AI or other players>monthly draft tournament>incredibly generous f2p model>pinnacle of digital-only CCGs
>>719647542>Kraza>Play it along Voice of VictoryI'm not a fan of control decks either, but people really got their feelings hurt enough that they need to cripple them into oblivion isn't it
>>719648098>This shit is worse because they should know better, but simply don't care because Commanderfags killed MTGthis is the real issue with modern mtg. it's not that they fuck up, it's that they don't care about fucking up.
Feels good to play my EDH pod with my friends who only use based cards.
>>719648263The joke is he's a punk, so he's anti-control.
>>719648098>>719648286they dont care and havent cared for like 5 years now. WotC's modus operandi is profits > all, because they are hasbros only profitable company.
>>719648104>things no one said
>>719645656>and has always sucked.There have been plenty of good standards. The secret to good standards is 'bad' sets. Remember RTR/Theros and Theros/Khans? The secret was that the core of standard forced people to play around hill giant and serra angel with upside, countermagic at 3+ mana, and hard removal at 4.
>>719648376>they are hasbros only profitable companyIs the new Forbidden Horse Show generation that bad? That's all I know from them except for Fuckers of the Shore.
>>719648286>>719648098What are even the benefits to playing Commander over any basic 60 card deck mode?
>>719648676You can find players for Poomander.
>>719648676you get to spin the Wheel of Winner to decide who gets to win the 3 hour game of masturbation where 1 player trundles through their turn slowly and everyone else is on their phone and each of them has to be explained one at a time when the game state changed
But Disney won’t let the Spider-Man cards be in Arena so Wizards has to make an entire second set of mechanically-identical OCDONOTSTEAL.
>>719648676Originally it was so you could make a deck out of shitty cheap cards for casual play. The rules and bans were retarded so any chance of good gameplay is basically nill. But since wotc killed 60c formats commander is the only thing left and its become just as if not more expensive than modern/legacy. So you have a format with ultra casual rules set being the main format while also being plagued with whales who really really want to win but never want to git gud.
>>719648676There's a wider disparity of deck cost because people unironically shell out for true duals and other $500 cards just to play shit decks poorly, a lot of sub $30 decks can btfo the average pod
dead crossover slop game
>>719648895ChatGPT, please generate me a list of card names to replace all these spiderman themed card names. Make it legally distinct so that Disney doesn't lawyer our boyholes
>>719646151They realized they could make more money making their universe beyond crap part of standard rotation instead of eternal formats only. Slightly longer print runs. Commander whales will eat it either way. 60 card standard formats get some life injected into it; because of the detraction commander does. Ontop of product fatigue, because wizards shits out a set every two months instead of every three to four.
>>719645576but we already have Rape-Man
>>719648153sniffa
>>719648676Theoretically at one point commander was a more dynamic format because having 100 cards with no copies meant that you were forced to build your deck to be capable of playing a wide variety of playstyles and to also be able to provide counterplay against those in return. In reality the cardpool became too large for 'only' 100 cards to be enough and even commander decks are hyperlinear curve-out synergy decks mono-focued on a singular gameplan with the goal of either winning early or losing to attrition. The format at this point survives largely on inertia, with people playing commander because other people play commander. To get an idea of what commander was like when commander first became popular, try building a deck with roughly 400 unique cards.
>>719648948>a lot of sub $30 decks can btfo the average podnot if I turn you into a social pariah for winning against me because you dont meet my arbitrary standards for deck powerlevel. Also you better not fucking proxy or I will whine and bitch until you leave because I spent 500$ for a wheel of fortune so only I get to enjoy that level of power.
>>719645810>consistent HAHAHHAHA i would play yu gi oh if it's art really were consistent the older yu gi oh art on cards is immaculate, now it's just lolis, power rangers and plushies
>>719648979>Yes! I understand the need to protect your boyhole (funny emoji). Here are my suggestions (funny emoji).>let's change Spider to Scorpion. This has the advantages of:>Being legally distinct while preserving the insect theme.>Webslinging can just be changed to "Stingerslinging">Would you want me to generate a document with all my proposed changes? (Funny emote)
>>719645576but xmage and forge exist.why would i ever touch mtg arena? https://xmage.today/https://card-forge.github.io/forge/
>>719649319Thanks chatgpt!
Now that WotC has abandoned all support for competitive play and organized events, there is 0 reason to ever buy a single card ever again. Simply print each card out on some A4 paper and stick in in a sleeve.
>>719648676People actually play commander rather than standard
>>719648891>>719648912>>719648948You can make cheap, effective 60 card decks though. Every fucking game shop has a boatload of singles from drafts and collectors offloading that you can buy to make an effective gimmick. I don’t get it. Is the appeal of commander really just whales jacking off how much money they’ve blown on acquiring rare cards?
>>719645981>most unintuitive shit card gameBrainlet lmao
>>719648331post list
>>719649557For lots of people it's just a way to hang out with 3 friends for a couple hours. They don't really care about MTG all that much, it's the whole "it's fun with friends" argument to defend mediocre garbage that's not worth the pricetag.
>>719649557>You can make cheap, effective 60 card decks thoughThen by the same logic you can do the same with 100 card decks.But the reality is standard is fucking awful right now
>>719645576Spooder-man
>>719648437I don't mind lower-powered sets. But it feels like those sets only appear in-between ones with outrageous cards
>>719645810my face when im playing occult ancient egyptian themed card game
>>719649557you have probably been out of the game for a while but standard for years now has been dominated by a single overwhelmingly dominant deck that wotc refuses to ban. Im talking 3/4 games featuring the same decklist, and that deck will typically shit stomp budget decks.>>719649693>They don't really care about MTG all that much, it's the whole "it's fun with friends" argument to defend mediocre garbage that's not worth the pricetag.The weird thing with commanderfags is that they claim its an ultra casual format but splash 500$ on a deck at the baseline. That isn't casual, and if you're spending that much money on a casual fun with friends experience just buy a boardgame which is designed for multiplayer instead of the jank dogshit that is commander's rules set.
>>719645576"Spider-Man India" has to be the worst card name ever put to print.
Wizards of the Coast might be a worse company than any game publisher. Yes even Ubisoft. What a shitshow.
If all the commanderfag pods shuffled their cards together and embraced cube they'd be a lot more tolerable and way less targets for mockery.
don't care, still playing commander with my friends using chinese proxy decks
>>719649825Oh yea, I also forgot about the other aspect of commanderfags: the watchloser phenomenom.Everyone has access to tools that tell the time, but insecure men will show off how expensive their watch is and how much disposable income they have. Commanderfags, being homosexual and autistic losers, do not have romantic partners thus spend all their income on cardboard.Yea, nice 50 cent Sol Ring, mine is an Eric Klug beta altar that I commissioned personally for 3 handjobs and 5 figures. Fucking loser peacocking to be King of the Nerds with the most expensive version of a cheap thing.
>>719649874Oh man don't you look at the avatar cards.
>>719645576>>719645656>Still woke, still poorly designed and balanced, full-fortnite-sellout themes....God, this game is shit. Anyone who supports this trash should be ashamed of themselves.
2 mana removal was a mistake
>>719645998made for commanderstandard is irrelevant, vivi is working as intended
>>719649825>Im talking 3/4 games featuring the same decklistAnd almost all of the 1/4 are decks made just to try and counter the one T0 deck
>>719650060>Commanderfags, being homosexual and autistic losers, do not have romantic partners thus spend all their income on cardboard.don't post this to /tg/ lest you want to be drowned in an ocean of redditors essay posting at you about how they are 6'5, benched 4pl8 in HS, happily married with kids living in a mcmansion with 100 commander decks. ime commanderfags are typically 30-40 year olds in a dead end marriage that hate their wives and kids and just want to escape by whaling on mtg for a casual format. Naturally they will vehemently deny this and claim the opposite but the biggest commander whales at my lgs all had terrible home lives.
>>719649874I think the whole theme of naming cards after mundane shit from the Jacetice League visiting a plane might be worse.>"Jace Makes a Garden - Search your library for a bsic land and make a food token">Jace walked by a boutique and spotted a thief taking a loaf of bread. Jace mindtcontrolled the entire market to end capitalism and establish a commune garden where the poor eat forever
Are they making a Spider-verse set? Could use some more color.
>>719647542>Spiders man
>>719650309Any corporatist entity trying to tell me to embrace communism for my benefit needs to have its shot-callers executed via lit dynamite stick in the ass.
>>719650615Hmm, how very Tezzeret Bolas coded of you. My Jacetice League will enlighten these backward savages and their primitive ways.>wears hat and and ethnic coat
>>719650309>Jace mindtcontrolled the entire market to end capitalism>just ignore this card is a 1 in 200 pack mythic rare sold at 300x the production cost
Remember, that MTG based once upon a time
>>719648286Sorry anon, according to our sales and totally not misrepresented player data mtg is more popular than ever and standard is in a flourishing environment :^)
Literally all these fuckers have to do is make a meme card like pic rel and at least half of the people saying they swore off magic come crawling back. It's so pathetic.
pulled a fullart Vivi yesterday irlfelt good mane
>>719652109Make me a Human Holocaust card and we’ll talk.
>>719650510The art will be completely phoned in. One reason is to not compete with Marvel's own card game where the art is actually allowed to flourish.Magic, in contrast, will be getting lazy 3DCG and Deviantart tier fanart
>>719647542looks ai generated
>>719654390No it doesn't. It just looks boring.
Who could be behind all these completely tone-deaf sets and products that clash heavily with the setting of Magic: the Gathering?
>>719645998this is an excellent takedown and I'd trust you to make a card, certainly more than FIRE designfags
>>719654676>nyc """"""""""""""""food"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""">+1/+1
>>719654676the reddit comments for this card are like walking into a Synagogue
>>719654869And just what were doing over there, anon...?Well if you went there already, mind sharing one or two?
>>719654676It's so obvious that they couldn't think of enough spider-man things to make into cards.
>>719648331>nuPrinting>BasedPick one.
>>719655013most on this shithole have a burner plebbit account and are subbed to 4 or 5 non HIV positive subreddits, I like being an elite internet tough guy too but also it's fucking forums get over yourselves sometimes they get info first I dont use twitter /tg/ is dead too
>>719648676It lets you pseudo-RPG as a character you like, and play in a way befitting of that character. Sadly that's not been a thing for 10 years because everyone just slams format staples into their decks and tries way too hard to win.
make commander but without commander
>>719655445>non HIV positive subredditsNo such thing.
>>719645576I play magic IRL and I'm skipping spidershit.
>>719645808>J.J.J. is just jealous because he does not have...PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER!
>>719657118>WUBRG>all generic keywordswho the fuck designs this shit.
>>719645576yugiohs meta is shit, unhit tenpai
>>719657401I don't know, but if I had to guess, they just tend to go the path of least resistance.
>>719650208the real issue is threats that must be killed turn 2 on the draw or you die. tarmogoyf and young pyro wouldnt see play in the current standard format because they are too slow. arcbound ravager might see fringe play in the blue artifact shell but its probably still too slow.
So does Indian spider man live in India or New York? He mentions the British, I guess in real life the British used to control New York too, so that makes sense? Was there 9/11 in Indian New York?
>>719657551He lives in India. He's literally just Peter Parker but if he and his entire cast of supporting characters and villains were born in India.
>>719657551>capeshit>loreanon...
>>719657401They do this a lot, they'll make a 5c legend that can have all the "THE SETS THING" in one deck
>>719657401people who dont know why chromanticore was loved trying to make a new chromanticore. the secret is that the chromanticore was actually a castable creature in a 5c midrange deck and not just fodder for a reanimator shell.
>>719645576AAAAAAHHHHHHSHIT FROM THE SKY
>>719657535yup. the insane shit that can be pulled for one mana or two is crazy. if you dont have insta-removal, might as well concede.
>>719651740>3FFShould've been KKK
>>719650510No, they just redesigned spider-rapist after the movie.
>>719649259>olderYou mean GX and before? Toys and shit like that has existed since GX
>>719654676>Oil & Fat on Empty Carbs for breakfastDo New Yorkers really?
>>719645576why is he not called indian spider man
