>15 years old
15 year old hebe samus...
>>719655068
No game needs a remake more.As it is it is barely tolerable.But there are some good bones there.>Space habitat for growing Metroids>Backup of Mother Brain>Federation is evil>Adam showing upYou'd need to fix the authorization mechanic and a few stupid story beats like making Adam's sacrifice actually worth something.And give it real analog controls/can shoot missiles in 3rd person, but it could work.
>>719656671imagine being at computers man, imagine
>>719656696A remake wouldn't solve anything, there's barely anything salvageable in this garbage, if a remake needs to change 90% of the game for it to become playable you might as well just leave it behind and make a new game
>>719656671Yeah if there's one thing that makes a woman a baddass is daddy issues
>>719656696There's a mod that does that and other things like adding music. If I ever had to replay this garbage I'd use that.
Had it come out like 8 years later it would have caused irreversible damage to the franchise akin to Prime.
Only reason I know about this game is the one DSP clip of him saying "Thumbs down, nig-"
>>719655068I hate time. >>719656671>Samus can have emotions and kick assAlways has.
>>719656696This. Can we please normalize remaking bad games? I desperately want a third person 3D Metroid. >You'd need to fix the authorization mechanicIt needs to either be a prequel that takes place during Samus' Federation days, or have Samus actively tell her client to fuck off and let her do her job. Needs more "Any objections, Adam?" moments.
>>719656671Kim in voyager isn't that good
>>719656671I will never understand how self-professed feminists love one of the only pieces of media I consider to be truly misogynistic.
>>719660908It worked for Castlevania: TheAdventure Rebirth!
>>719661750>Other M>misogynisticWhaaaaaat? There's nothing misogynistic about turning a highly competent career woman into a simpering moron just because her former boss showed up and somehow started ordering her around. And then he shoots her in the back and the game treats him like he right to do so. ... God I hate this game. Don't even get me started on the motherhood "theme".
>>719656671
How do we fix Other M?>1. Actually open the map>2. Make abilities pickups again instead of authorizing them>3. Institute a better combat dodging system instead of relying on mashing the dpad>4. Remove the ridley ptsd>5. Make the gravity suit its proper purple
>>719664696Remove it from the timeline
>>719664696So, make it a normal Metroid game, basically.
>>719664696>2. Make abilities pickups again instead of authorizing themI'll never get over the idea that Nintendo just saw shitty webcomic tier discussion of "WHY SAMUS LOSE HER POWERUPS EVERY GAME??" and it mindbroke them into torpedoing the entire game into this retarded daddy issues narrative.
>>719655068Reminder if it weren't for this piece of shit and Metroid going away nearly 2 decades, we likely would not have silksong niggers flooding this board at this very moment.
>>719664696Just not make it
>>719655068The japanese cover? Why?
Other M is not sexist, people just say that because samus actually acts like a woman in it. Have you people never spoke to a woman in your lives? They're always talking about their ex's or their baby. The game does suck however.
>>719656671>hates zero suit blonde bimbo Samus>loves Other M where Samus is at her weakest, most subservient form in peak plastic bimbo latex barbie attireDobson is just a nonsensical contrarian attention whore
>>719667090But that's not in character for Samus.
>>719667534Pathetic attempts at trolling aside, this. Samus is a rebel who doesn't jive with the man, maaaaaan. Sure, she works with the Feds a lot, but she insist on doing things her way.
Like, one of the best moments in Corruption was the little silent nod Samus shares with Admiral Dane. He gets it. ... God I miss Admiral Dane. He was cool.
>>719667534>>719667746It's not even just that Samus is always presented as independent. The characters in Other M are fractally stupid. They don't even act like people or organisms with both a will to live and an understanding of cause and effect. Samus is so desperate to get back on Adam's good side that she's willing to BURN ALIVE until he specifically tells her to turn on the Varia Suit that she had the entire time. Because Adam needed to give her permission, the Varia Suit might've killed someone or destroyed equipment. Fucking dogs have a higher sense of self preservation than Samus.
>>719656696Fix the controls and cut the empty fat from the level design and I'll be happy. People need to get over it not being a metroidvania and accept it's just a linear action game.
>>719667746That's kind of what happens in Other M sometimes. One of Adams orders is to only explore areas she can access with her currently authorized abilities. The logic probably being to keep her in the group so she doesn't solo the entire station. But then you get to that hell run. Technically the heat is killing her but as long as she survives it's an area she can explore with her authorized abilities.
>>719668249There's other examples though. Samus gets dropped into a killbox where she's being shot at on all sides. Samus has the Wave Beam. She can stop this happening at any time. But she waits for Adam to give her permission. Even IRL soldiers have rules of engagement. They'll have to explain themselves but they don't have to tolerate being shot at because their CO is playing Castle Crashers on his phone. Why is he treating all of Samus's equipment like the Power Bombs?
>>719668531>Why is he treating all of Samus's equipment like the Power Bombs?Adam knows about what's going on in the bottleship to some degree, Think he wrote some report or something advising them not to clone metroids and stuff. So in Adam's case, he's intentionally trying to prevent Samus or anyone in the group from branching out too far. I forget if it was because of the traitor, the area zero with the metroids, or something else. But it was something like that iirc.
>>719655068I can save her
>>719660662Never noticed the look in her eyes before, she looks fed (heh) up.
>>719655068Kek
So, who the fuck was the traitor?
>>719668876Another important point is that the bottle ship is a fed operation and samus is a fed contractor. You cant just show up and start fucking blasting. She's complying because she gets booted out otherwise, and adam is going to the extremes because he knows she has a good chance of fucking everything up.too bad retards wont ever understand.I dont even mind the ridley thing all that much, considering that it was only the third time she'd seen him since he genocided everyone she knew and the last time she saw him he was dead three fucking times over....so seeing him just back and at full power is a ghost coming back to haunt you.
>>719655068Noice
>>719669616>She's complying because she gets booted out otherwise>"Okay, woman who has killed gods, you need to leave right now. Or else!"... Bruh.
>>719669616>You cant just show up and start fucking blasting. She's complying because she gets booted out otherwise, and adam is going to the extremes because he knows she has a good chance of fucking everything up.I don't really agree with this, but I'd need to start going through the text to explain why. All I really would say though is that Adam couldn't boot Samus even if he wanted too. She'd just start doing her own thing which unfortunately would lead her to doing a heroic sacrifice in area zero. In that what-if Adam fired Samus scenario. Now that I think about it.
>>719655068Damn, it's been that long since Galerians: Ash came out?
Rememba me?
>>719670034Wakka?
>>719664286dumb but i laffed.>>719661750The funniest part is that this was likely made after Bayonetta fried people's brains.
>>719669616No. That shit was dumb. If this is a federal investigation into what Adam knows is an illegal black site then he would be a fool to recruit Samus into it. So Adam is concerned enough about the vicious fauna and potential Metroid outbreak to risk recruiting an outsider like Samus as his muscle but not so concerned that he won't just ask for reinforcements from people he can control. This also does nothing to explain Samus's baffling behavior either. >RidleyThat shit stopped being believable after Samus killed it a 3rd time. Samus Returns was the last opportunity to pull the OMG RIDLEY WONT DIE nonsense.
>>719655068>>719655068Looking back I don't know why this game never became a bigger target for feminist criticism. Given how much everyone hated it, it makes me wonder if it actually could've altered relations between feminists and gamers and made them less hostile to each other in the 2010s, even if we'd still probably have to endure the bitching about Bayonetta...
>>719669887>>719669873Guys, this isnt hard.I dont care if youre a real life navy seal copypasta, you cant just waltz into a military operation and say "hey guys im just doing my thing dont mind me im pretty sure someone needs my help here." Samus even says something to imply she would just leave but decided she wanted to help out her old comrades.She contracts for the feds, thats how she gets paid, she doesnt get paid if the feds end up blacklisting her for going rogue in some operation. No shit she could kill all the feddies on the ship, but what does she gain from it? all that gets her is a half dozen dead friends, a bounty on her head and the same result as what happened when she did comply.
Other M apologists can fuck off.End of discussion.
>>719670337other M was the third timeRidley doesnt die in 1, he isnt in 2, he dies in 3, and is a clone in other m.>adam would be a foolSure, but he could also be assuming she would investigate otherwise, so better to control her than let her go off unsupervised.
>>719670770Literally the only thing wrong with zero is that the final boss sucks and the drone segments are dogshit pacing impediments.
>>719670567Literally how could they even begin to stop her? Samus does whatever the hell she wants. >She contracts for the feds, thats how she gets paid, she doesnt get paid if the feds end up blacklisting her for going rogue in some operation.Right, just like how she got blacklisted for destroying the BSL station. ... Oh, wait.
>>719670774>Forgetting the Prime Trilogy where he appeared twice.>Metroid 2 remake features Ridley as the final boss, making Other M even more retarded for making Samus afraid of him.
>>719670919His Prime 3 appearance makes it even worse because we actually get a moment of Samus expressing "Why won't you just fucking die already?!". Needless to say, a much better executed moment at that.
>>719670774>Metroid Zero MissionPhew that was easy>Metroid PrimePhew that was easy>Metroid Prime 3Phew that was easy>Metroid Samus ReturnsPhew that was easy>Super MetroidPhew that was easy>Metroid Other MOH GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE RIDLEY IS BACKSeriously Samus has encountered reconstructed monsters before like Mother Brain. She knows the concept of cloning exists. Fucking she knows that the monsters on the ship were cloned from DNA attached to her suit. Why is Ridley returning so unthinkable?
>>719655068This sold better than Astrobot.
Underrated game
>>719670913The thing that's even dumber is that Samus was responding to a distress signal broadcast on an OPEN CHANNEL. This is the Bottle Ship saying they don't care who helps them, just help them. All Adam had to do was say "nah Samus, we got it covered" and that would've been that
>>719303895 >More like different ways of saying the same thingLet me set the record straight here>子供扱いされることを嫌っていた 女性扱いされることもまた耐えがたかったThis is the line, she uses "耐え難い" which is "unberable, intolerable". So it didn't just "get on her nerves" she hated being called lady. She clarifies she didn't hate Adam,>アダムを嫌っていたわけではないMaking it clear it wasn't personal but there's a clear difference from the EN script. Also>Still gets the point across that she respects himIs itself a simplification. >指示に間違いなどないことは私が一番知っている>滲む慈しみは ちゃんと理解できていたように思う>私の心を理解し受け入れてくれた唯一かけがえの無い存在… なのに…やがて私は彼の元を去ってしまうAre not statements of respect. It's a greyer area where she can understands what Adam is doing logically, but still doesn't agree with it. Which is kind of important considering the mission that leads to her leaving the federation. I'm not saying Other M is actually really good but claiming the Japanese script and English script are basically the same is misinformation. I'm shitting up the thread sorry
>>719671870Ah yes, the "Baby's Cry". Named as such because the purpose of the signal is to attract attention, you see. The fuck is this writing?
>>719672308>誰かを呼ぶことを最優先としたその目的を 赤ん坊の泣き声になぞらえたIt's nick-named babies cry because it's a really high priority distress signal that funnels anyone in the receiving area towards it. Like an actual babies cry. It's not that it attracts attention it's the priority.
>>719672920It's an SOS signal. The idea that there's tiers of "DEAR GOD PLEASE HELP ME!" is in itself fucking ridiculous.
>OM humbled the fuck out of Sakamoto and made him realize that his idea of Samus is fucking stupid>OM is only spoke of in hushed tones from then onSometimes an artist needs a kick in the teeth.
>>719673084No there isn't. Not every distress signal is "Dear god please help me". Like police codes,.>Officer down, all patrols respondVs>Police required immediatelyThere can be different degrees of severity.
>>719655068What I hated about Metroid Other M the most, besides the narrative and gameplay, is seeing "remember me" black dude getting spammed on 4chan for a couple years. So goddamn annoying and uninteresting meme. The joke was "wow this guy no one knows from Metroid lore is talking is talking to us like we know him!" hilarious. Hilarious. Personally I prefer the eraser guy because he was forklift certified to kill everyone in Samus' team to coverup Space Federation War crimes. Thankfully we have Raven Beak to replace that piece of shit character. Raven Beak is better in every way.t. Adam
>>719673234This. Even in Samus Returns, you can see a concentrated effort to pivot to the elements and characterization that fans actually like. Well, I say that, but even Federation Force goes out of its way to put our girl back on track.
>>719673294continued>MAYDAY>Its use indicates a life-threatening situation.>PAN-PAN>It signals a need for assistance, but with less urgency than “MAYDAY.”>MEDEVAC Request>Its priority dictates a rapid response.Priority is a thing in real world distress calls. So you were full of shit.
>>719673294>>719673745>something being stupid in real life justifies something being stupid i the video gameThe fucking cope of you.
>>719656671I've been in this site for so long and i never grasped dobson's train of thought at all. He truly was operating in another level. Is such a massive display of complete retarded sincerity that just can't be replicated in this time and age.
>Samas, you won't be able to kill those Metroids.>But you just did with the baby, that infant Metroid! >Maybe it would've worked, maybe it wouldn't -- look, the point is, me giving you a backshot was necessary in order for me to tell you this in case it DIDN'T work. >You could've just, ya' know, TOLD me that?! Fuck I feel like I need a chiropractor. >I wasn't the one who authorized the logic behind this script. How else would Sakamoto've set up the next super dramatic scene where I stupidly sacrifice myself?
>>719660662Prime 2's portrayl of Samus is PEAK
>>719674019>"Samus didn't have emotions before!">meanwhile, there's whole games in which the emotional core of the story is her relationship with her adopted peopleSecondaries like to talk shit.
>>719674334>saves an entire civilization>asks for nothing in return>waves goodbyeSamus is my favorite video game character, and this is why. Yeah, she's a mercenary, but it's not about the money. It's about doing the right thing.
She's also a huge dork who likes to do cool poses. That's a big part of why she's the best.
>>719673885Nigger not everything is black and white.There's a scale of "We're fucked."
>>719674884>>719674771For me it's her first fight with dark samus in the pirate stronghold
>>719674271But this actually makes sense for Adam's character. Like that mission where Adam's brother dies. Could Samus have saved him? Possibly but Adam isn't the type to risk failure like that. So here it's that same fundamental value difference between Aran and Adam. Samus doesn't care about the odds she'll do it because she's Samus Aran while Adam is risk adverse. And that connects to the whole authorization shit. Adam is risk averse so he wants to limit the scope that everyone can explore the station. He wants to really do things slowly. So at the sector zero scene, maybe Samus could take out the Metroids but he's not going to risk that and would rather do a suicide mission(because he's made the executive order that Samus's life is more valuable than his). And that all connects to why originally left the federation. Why she didn't like being called lady. Why she didn't like everyone treating her with kid gloves. They wanted to be helpful but it's stifling. It's literally one of those girl boss things. It's literally>Give HER a chanceBut the audience wanted more girl-boss moments. Which Hollywood must be extremely jealous.
>>719674914Oh absolutely. This classic spaghetti western ass showdown. The cinematography and direction of the Prime games is so good. All the cutscenes are really short, but they convey the story so well.
>>719675479>>719674771>>719660662I like this better than Dread's portrayal of Samus so much more and I'm deathly afraid that they're gonna pull Samus's personality from that shit in 4 than the other prime games.
>>719674771For me it's Samus hearing movement, going into an alert stance, and then relaxing because "oh it's just Kraid." And then shooting him in the mouth
>>719675685I love that she spends the whole fight straight up bullying Kraid. Samus hates Space Pirates so much.
>>719675685It's funny but this does feel a little try hard for my tastes.
>>719671095>>719670919>>719671143>release order is chronologicalffs you retards
>>719655068Kinda looks like Aya Brea
>>719675584I'll take Dread Samus over Other M any day.
>>719676497The Metroid Prime games are placed between Metroid 1&2.
>>719676579That is absolutely true but I still dislike Dread Samus's portrayal. It feels a bit flanderized.Samus is cool, calm, collected, not doom guy.
>Prime 2 is one of the best games>Doesn't even have riddy diddy in it
>>719676370She has no remorse.
>>719675584Dread went totally overboard with trying to make her as awesome as possible. Prime 2/3 were the perfect amount of cool.
>>719676813>awesome as possibleBecause she is.
>>719676985Dread is pretty corny though with "SAMUS IS SO COOL LOOK AT THIS HOLLYWOOD SCENE WE PUT HER IN SHE DOESNT EVEN CARE WOW" at times in my opinion.In Prime 2/3 she was much more the legendary mercenary professional type that I think is more badass in the end.
>>719676729Crocomire deserved it.
Okay, ACfag has popped up.You showed yourself too soon, lol.
>>719676663nigger she was doom guy before doom guy was doom guy, the manual for metroid says the space pirates were terrified of samus and that "he" had a reputation for finishing jobs everyone else considered impossible.
>>719677321She also has a long history of striking a cool pose just for fun. Samus has always been that gal.
>>719675229The scene's retarded, retard. What was the baby gonna' do? Nibble on her head? Thank God Adam came to save the day so we could see Samus practically naked while boo-hoo-hooing daddy Adumb's heroic sacrifice.
>>719677279I like cutscenes and cinematic moments, I just don't really like how far Dread went with Samus's awesome meter or whatever the fuck you'd call it. It just comes across as corny or tryhardy or whatever you call it in my eyes.>>719677321That's not what I meant when I mentioned doom guy you silly goose.
>>719655068>The baby>Yes, daddy Adam!>Pixel hunts>OMG HOW IS RIDELY LIVE AGAIN IN SO TRAUMATIZED!>Samus, run through that Volcano without your Varia suit! Nearly dead now?; Good, now you can use it!>Murder mystery that is never solved and the game just forgets about>Most underwhelming finale in the series>Adam casually fucking drops Samus, the most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy, with a single shot before needlessly sacrificing himself for no fucking reason>Adam allowed the entire situation to worsen by cucking dumb, naive bimbo Samus into restraining her powers and just decided to make himself the heroThe game made absolutely no sense and was likely written by someone who self inserted themself as Adam to live out some power fantasy where Samus is his obedient bitch or something. I'm still mad. Gameplay is painfully mediocre AF too.
>>719677807>Gameplay is painfully mediocre AF too.It was so bad that even 11 year old me couldn't handle it and I completed most of the metroid games including prime 2 on hard without a single death. I think I played metroid prime pinball more than I fucking did other M.
>>719656671dobbo was a natural contrarian not even other nerds like him, he would fit right in here!
>>719677807>>Pixel huntsIt's okay when it's a major gameplay mechanic that conveys story and worldbuilding, as well as giving tactical information! ... Wait.
>>719678004I think I would've enjoyed someone peeling all the skin off of my dick than having ever known the horror of Other M. Even the subtitle is dumb as shit.
>>719678004>>719677807>IGN: You also mentioned that Metroid Other M was originally to be an on-rails design. How far into the design did that change to what we're playing now?>Sakamoto: I want to clarify, I've seen lots of news stories out there that misinterpreted what I said about the on-rails part and may have gotten the wrong idea. What I meant, in the original concept, Samus could move back and forth but only on a fixed path, not that it was automatic movement forward constantly like in rail shooters...>IGN: So, to address the cries on the message boards, is there going to be a nunchuk option for those who want to play it the "core" way?>Sakamoto: No, there is no alternate control setting in Metroid Other M. Honestly, If we felt there was any more comfortable way to play the game then what we were envisioning, then we would have certainly would have just done that. But we do feel that this is the most appropriate and most comfortable way of playing the game and I don't think we made the wrong choice. We want to emphasize that this is the best way, we stuck with a single control scheme and were very committed to that from the beginning.
>>719656671Imagine being a contrarian for the most boring shit out there
>>719678121In what way did the prime games ever pixel hunt you with scan mode? It's very obvious when you should scan something.
>>719678160>Imagine being a contrarian for the most boring shit out thereYou're on /v/ lmao
>>719678004>I think I played metroid prime pinball more than I fucking did other M.Now, to be absolutely fair, MPP is a damn fine game of pinball. Kinda hard to blame you for playing a game that's actually fun.
I unironically completed MP Hunters DS story mode full logbook scan. More hardcore than you pussies.
>>719678391Okay how about this. I played metroid prime 2 echoes multiplayer by myself just exploring the map than I did with Other M as a kid. I fucking hated other M and I even tried to replay it a few years ago and I still barely was able to finish it before unironically shoving it into a box because I hated it that much. It's a fucking stain on my vidya shelf.
>>719678210I was being sarcastic, anon. I was pointing out how the pixel hunts in Other M feel like the shit version of my favorite mechanic in the entire series.
>>719678545Oh okay then.>my favorite mechanic in the entire series.The scan visor is so fucking good I'm upset that no other game really uses them and just adds shit to a journal automatically that you have to pause and go read. I've read almost every logbook in the entire prime series which is impressive because I never fucking read logbooks in other games, I try to but I always end up getting bored and skipping them.
>>719678514>I played metroid prime 2 echoes multiplayer by myself just exploring the map... Sigh. Same. Real talk, Prime 2's multiplayer isn't bad. It's basic, but it's a decent enough time. I'll be honest, a big part of why Other M is so offensive is that, at the time, it felt like the franchise may very well have died. But I've cooled down on it significantly since Samus Returns, Dread, and Prime Remastered came out. And now we're all waiting for Prime 4 and potentially Metroid 6 news. We can well and truly leave Other M behind.
One thing I've noticed from OM contrarians is they don't realize just because things "makes sense" or it's "realistic" doesn't necessarily give people a good impression of Samus' character from then on if we took the timeline into consideration, even for an origin story. It comes as kind of a culture shock when they've built up this character who's able to hold her own with some scenes portraying some subtle emotions through her actions to full-blown inner monologs and sappy drama. It has a lot in common with PE 3rd Birthday with how both games stupidly portray their strong fem leads narratively, though the latter's retarded twist was dumb and the ending was downright disrespectful.This game just doesn't portray Samus very positively or that she's strong. All it really showed us as the audience is she's a stupidly stubborn, emotional, vulnerable Tsundere with daddy issues. It's so cliche for a female character it's practically insulting. I never got the impression she grew as a character either or accomplished anything. This is Jap female writing at its worst. Even Yuna one ups her in the retarded department, but even then it works for her as a character because she's young and has big shoes to fill on top of Spira's societal expectations.
>>719678654Right? It basically turns the story and the lore into a series of collectables, effectively blending narrative and gameplay. It is a bit baffling that other games don't do it like this. Closest I can think of is Resident Evil where you pick up notes and stuff. But even that's not quite the same. Oh, and off course, the sound helps. >RECORDING TO LOGBOOKEvery time.
>>719679132that shit is OCD nightmareyou're basically going around the entire game looking at walls and double checking enemies and whatnotdoesn't help prime1 also has missables
>>719669873>"killed gods">can't prevent Ridley from stealing the Metroid hatchling>jobs to a grown-up Metroid hatchling>jobs to Mother Brain>runs away from SA-X>jobs to the Omega Metroid>runs away from EMMI>jobs to Raven BeakSamus is the most overrated video game character by far.
>>719679256Oh yeah. Much as I love it, the percentage hunt can be horrid. In my opinion, the missables in Echoes are way worse. Vigilance-Class Turret, Dark Shredder, and especially the FUCKING Ing Webtrap. Goddammit.
>>719677807>The game made absolutely no sense and was likely written by someone who self inserted themself as Adam to live out some power fantasy where Samus is his obedient bitch or something.I can respect the hustle, too it is too much of a kusoge to be any enjoyable
>>719655068...out of 10!
>>719680036If you're gonna make a waifu game, you could at least have her be in-character. Samus is already a socially awkward autistic dork who wears gym clothes as casual wear and hangs out at bars. Like, come on.
>>719655068hypothetically speaking, how would've the reaction been if Samus still had ptsd, but instead of reducing to her scared child self it was just a sheer attack of reckless anger? Her becoming so careless trying to kill Ridley that it puts her in such a risk that Anthony still sacrifices himself
>>719679256just don't percentage hunt your first time around
>>719655068Too old by at least 2 years. 3 or 4, really
>>719681178Still bad because the writing is still awful for everything else and there's the fact that Samus killed Ridley a bunch of times past this point and she's having a panic attack only now. Also it just goes against her entire character.
>>719681010This image always makes me think of all the casual alien sex Samus has to let off some steam
>>719666568It's pretty cool w/ the slip on cover.There's even a reverse side featuring non-teen Samus.
