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what are examples of "safe evil" in videogames?
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Nazis.
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>>719656037
>Modern villain is a genocidal, murderous psychopath
>Racism is a step too far
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>>719656242
Literal nonsense, racism is practically linked to genocide.
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>>719656037
>Adult movie discussion
>Comic Book for children adaptation
>Romantised POP thriller adaptation
>Romantised POP bastardised story drama
>Comic Book for children adaptation
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>>719656318
saying nigger is not racism
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>>719656037
Religous leader for the continent's leading religion.
Random cultist.
Nazi.
Chaotic evil Joker type.
But don't you dare make any of the above jewish.
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>>719656105
They're neither though
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I'm tired of buzzwords, boss
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>>719656428
Why would I make a jewish nazi
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These guys particularly Arlecchino and Scaramouche
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buzzword is a buzzword, nigger
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>>719656037
Fuck you, fuck your new buzzword and fuck the talking head you get thread prompts from.
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I think its that there's a lingering addiction to subversion
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>>719656568
To be fair Genshin is supposed to be what, PG-13?
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>>719656568
Over-designed faggotry.
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>>719656568
el dottore literally performs human experiments on children

how the fuck are they gonna didn du nuffing that
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>>719656568
I love Sandy.
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>>719657120
this is THE definition of safe evil
>he hurt children!
I don't really care, actually evil and hateable villains are the ones who hurt or kill people I actually care about in the story
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>>719656037
>military games
nazis and russia/ussr
>fantasy
demons and aliens
>fantasy, japan
demons and angels
>horror
zombies, corporations and your own mind
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>>719657051
I find it funny that (almost?) all Chink gacha characters embody the 'generic anime' design extremely well despite being overdesigned
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>>719657312
>fantasy. japan
more likely catholic church or christianity rather than angels
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Ok fags, post a villain that ISN'T safe evil then
>You can't
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>>719656552
If you wanted to make left-wing anti-Zionist propaganda.
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>I love stealing and murder but i would never ever EVER say a slur
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>>719656037
I hate this buzzword but he's absolutely right. But its more of a wider problem with the infantilization of media. And at least some of /v/ cheer that shit on.
When was the last time any piece of media had an ending that wasn't 100% good guys win, bad guys lose that wasn't criticized and complained about incessantly? The reaction to Cyberpunk's endings is a great example. They all present different options for a common crime story ending. But /v/ brings it up at every opportunity they can't get cured, keep all their cyberware, and continue being a high profile criminal with zero consequences at the end of the game.

"Bad" endings, dark stories, actually evil villains, its all being sanitized for an audience that refuses to engage with anything more nuanced than Sunday morning cartoons.
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>>719656037
Let me guess, safe evil means anything that's not racism, specifically racism against real races and not fictional ones
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>>719657428
>here, we made this villain a complete piece of shit to make you hate him as much as possible! his name is Mr. Super Evil Guy of Pure Hatred and Misery
>but he would never use a slur or touch a woman improperly! that would be TOO evil
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>>719656037
Dio is unsafe evil
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>>719656568
mihoyo can't make villains
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>>719657645
There's always Red Skull.
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>>719656037
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>>719657873
That scene in the Batman/Captain America crossover was funny and completely in-character for him.
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>>719657838
>mihoyo can't make villains
Wrong!
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>>719656534
This. Stop making shit up and open up a thesaurus
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>>719656242
>>719657694
What's up with these retarded takes? Of course not every evil person is going to be racist or some sexually starved freak.
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>>719656037
Forced safe
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They are right though, commiting murder doesn't unlock all evil acts above that. The villain has to already be a mysoginist, racist and/or transphobic for that to make sense.
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>>719658025
>Mass rape
>Kidnappings
Man I regret getting far into gun girl z before it EOSd
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>>719657873
same feel
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Notice how everyone pretends OP didn't post a screenshot of a recently uploaded video and keeps bumping the thread
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>>719656037
Hannibal wasn't the villain in silence of the lambs.
What a retard.
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>>719658098
Name one modern villain that is either racist or a pervert.
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>>719657694
>Kills one of his hechmen because they were being licentious
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>>719657694
>>719657428
>Erm? Fellas? How am I supposed to know this guy is evil if he never says a slur or touches women inappropriately? Sure, he's a genocidal maniac, but I haven't seen him say "nigger" once, so he can't be all that bad.
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>>719658324
that's her point though
stories where the villain is actually the hero is safe evil
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>>719656318
Genocide is good, actually.
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>>719657596
>But /v/ brings it up at every opportunity they can't get cured, keep all their cyberware, and continue being a high profile criminal with zero consequences at the end of the game.
Is there a post game? I can see that being irritating if it affects gameplay after beating the main story.
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>>719656318
not according to modern writers
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>>719658417
Only 80% tho, gotta leave some dicks for Mikasa
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>>719656037
Everything is safe evil. Especially western real life murderers.
>kill people
> :D
>someone kills a child
> >:(
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>>719658480
I don't consider the last arc canon.
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>>719658530
also dogs or other tranimals
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>>719658530
Children don't matter anymore
Hecking doggorinos is where's it's at
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>>719658417
SnKeks never cease to be funny. isayama shitting out the ending will be the gift that keeps on giving
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>>719656037
Not my man Godefroy the Grafted, that's for sure!
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>>719658612
This is fucking satanic.
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>>719658632
>spend literal months upon months of eren did nothing wrong justifications
>cucks out at the very last moment
>eldia destroyed.
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>>719658612
>>719658704
Unironically
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>>719658480
She had her sword handles...AND Armin, she was just being selfish.
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>>719658704
>Satanic
Stop being a bitch and just say jewish
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>>719658421
The game reverts time before the final mission, so whatever ending you picked doesn't impact gameplay. There are no quests or anything unlocked after the final mission, but you do get to keep the XP and loot from it, so technically there is a postgame. At least on release, haven't beaten it since
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>>719658390
>Buffalo bill the murderous tranny is safe because they say hes not a real tranny
They tried but the audience still explicitly understood him as a tranny freak, the writer of the novel the book its based on wouldn't have to apologize every time its brought up and there wouldn't still be seething about the movies decades later if it didn't have that effect.
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>>719656242
>>719657428
Sounds like your average shitlib, whats the issue/inconsistency here?
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>>719656037
>Stormfront and Homelander are supposed to be turbo chuds
>Writers won't even let them say slurs when appropriate.
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>>719657873
Ironic because america was the birthplace of eugenics, which nazimoustacheman took inspiration from
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>>719658828
Amazon probably wouldn't let them for financial reasons.
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>>719658828
>Stormfront is le ebil nazi
>Is jewish
What did they mean by this?
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>>719656037
>find small channel making good videos about writing
>get notification of a new upload
>5 minutes later seen it on /v/
What in the goddamn? Stop following me
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>>719658612
I grew up around kids and saw what faggots they became, meanwhile dogs, with the exception of the ones afflicted with socio economic factors, are way more sympathetic because they're not gay.
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>>719656568
Never touched any mihoyo game. Can i play as the big dude on the left?
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>>719656037
>Channel called femoid
So tired of these obvious bait 4cuck channels. Losers grifting other losers over and over I wouldn't be surprised if this cunt has a video where she positively reviews God Hand it's like the dragon tooth for any retarded faggot who makes a channel to appeal to 4niggers
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>>719657927
It would have been if they weren’t trying to make Red Skull meta about being a villain. Red Skull is a Nazi and the third reich believed they were the good guys and that the US was evil.
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>>719656037
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>>719658732
I will never get over how the clear implication is the island gets nuked within a generation or two but they get so assmad they recon it adding scifi buildings going
>Nuh uh it was clearly a bit longer
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>>719656037
>243 views
>9 minutes ago
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
BUY A FUCKING AD
SAGE
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>>719658812
Its retarded that people would be upset then, especially in a crime story that virtually always has bad endings for everyone involved.
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>>719659049
you dont even know the name of the channel how is this even a shill
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>>719658362
None because in real life racists and elrverts are both dopamine fried losers who can't get anything done

Hitler was a fluke and even then he was a raging druggie and did the school shooter thing where he kills himself to avoid all accountability and potential for growth through suffering and consequences
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>>719658704
>>719658767
Pussy
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>>719658383
That's realistic though. Evil people will often kill others for shit they do as a cover. In fact I'd argue that makes a compelling villain because they are so evil they want to be the only ones commiting evil, it's a competition for them
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>>719658995
if you mean the guy in the mask on the far left, no. If you mean the big robot, maybe.
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>>719659029
>Nah, they're worse than nazis
Ironically enough every single bad thing they say the nazis did is stuff either the jews believe about themselves (gods chosen people) or stuff they do and have been doing for way longer than nazis existed
Genocide
Propogandistic control of media banking
Plots to rule the world
Steralising others
Etc

Funnily enough too nazi is a slur created by jews the national socialists never called themselves nazis but there is a jewish ethnic group called the ashkeNAZIS
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>>719658704
That's nothing compared to the hourly gore threads /b/ has.
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>>719658417
I agree, which is why I'll support Israel mission to genocide the balding race of ugly whiners
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>>719656037
you niggas are just making shit up to get mad at
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>>719656037
I genuinely can't tell if "safe evil" is supposed to mean "not evil enough" or "too evil"
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>>719658383
>>719659170
You're both missing the mark. It's just a fact that even evil people have some morals. For example, if a pedophile goes to prison, he could be in serious danger, if the other inmates discovers he's a pedophile. A lot of those guys can't stand the idea of children being harmed, no matter what. And they're killers.
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I just want more rape in video games
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>>719659319
>Kris and the soul diaglogue
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>2025 Censorship in FULL FORCE
>WHY IS EVERYTHING SAFE NOW?? XDDD
What a fucking mystery. I wonder why everything is bland now? Maybe it has something to do with extremely powerful groups punishing everything that goes out of the line?
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>>719659402
Go nuke australia then
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>>719659094
It's literally in the screenshot you blind retard. "Femoid" is the channel name
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>>719659456
are you for fucking real
I edited it with inspect element specifically so that you cannot know the channel name so you cannot give it views
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>>719658612
Is this AI? I genuinely can't tell anymore
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>>719659181
I looked it up and you play as the chick. Pass
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>>719659536
Searching the name of the video pulls it immediately
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>>719659726
yes that would require you to go out of your way to search the title of the video, which I don't think most people here will do, and would not be a great advertising strategy
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>>719659787
As apposed to searching the channel name? It's the same thing
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>>719659372
It's supposed to mean the villain has arbitrary lines between what evil acts he is willing to commit and which he's not that is purely influenced by real life rather than his own beliefs, experience or setting/time period
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>>719659713
it's not really clear if we even get that character at all. I hope so becauese I really like her also by "maybe" I meant wheather or not the robot is integrated in her kit or not.
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>>719659536
Faggot, if you edited it with inspect element, then of course you're going to fool people into thinking it's real. Since that method doesn't leave any editing artifacts that normally tip people off.

>>719659787
Retard, people search titles to videos all the time. If they're extra lazy, and have the 4chan X plugin, they can just hit the yandex button, which will autoamtically do a backwards image search on yandex, which will extra the text from the image. Basically, they don't even have to use the energy to type it out. Just a couple of clicks to copy and paste the text.
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>>719656037
I think this would apply to female villains, they rarely get the level of visceral evil (and ensuing comeuppance) that men do
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>>719659660
It's a movie you fucking retard
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>>719656037
>look up video
>see channel
>video before this is crying about sex in books is icky and gross and how it needs to be banned
not listening to a retarded woman's opinion on anything
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>>719659787
>People will be autistic enough to look up the channel name but not to look up the video title
Are you stupid?
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>>719660028
Have sex
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>>719659393
those dumb niggers don't give one iota of a crap about children
they just use pedophiles as a scapegoat; "see them there diddlers be worse than us honest violent murderers"
don't use the scum of society as a frame for morals, they'd shank you too given the right excuse
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>>719659726
>>719659970
If you seriously think a long-form literature and writing channel is going to advertise on fucking /v/ you are both retarded.
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>>719656037
I actually really like her videos. Fuck you for making it look like outragebait culture war slop.
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>>719658826
libs are the most racist people of all
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>>719657873
BAAAAASED
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>>719657390
Kafka
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>>719657390
An Elizabeth bathory type nigga except instead of bathing in virgin blood he fucks babies
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>>719659094
>I edited it
>while leaving name of the video and the thumbnail
>its impossible to find!
I hope you're just pretending to be retarded.
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>>719656037
last of us 2 had alot of safe evil
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>>719656568
le bleach
>>719657428
playing mafia 3 rn them saying nigger feels forced
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>>719660591
I know not everyone's a fan of his books, but I wouldn't call him particularly evil
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>>719656434
That's why it's a problem with the writers
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>>719660591
What the fuck did he do wrong
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>>719656552
now is the time to make pro gaza anti zionist villains

leftwing people will love it
rightwing people SHOULD love it but are giga-cucked for jews and it should tell you who not to take seriously very easily
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>>719656552
worked with magneto
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>>719658098
It's funny how /pol/tards are like "why isn't this murderous villain more like me? this is unrealistic and woke!"
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>>719660201
>the only demographic who actually consistently kills pedos don't deserve credit for their service because they'd kill you too even though 98% of prisoners don't get murdered in prison
That's seems morally sound.
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>>719661171
do magapedes really?
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>>719656434
Follow your leader.
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"safe" is just the new "artificial"
'safe fun'
'safe difficulty'
'artificial evil'
'artificial horny'
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>>719656037
Micah from red dead 2 has zero teeth whatsoever, he behaves not even like a Saturday morning cartoon villain, they are more complex than him
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>>719656037>
>rambo 4 is her favorite rambo
>doesn't afraid of pissing off her viewers
This woman is giga based.
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>>719661204
>you're the most evil type of villain
>never depicts you as the bad guy in media
why are you like this
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>>719661339
"safe difficulty*

>>719661204
LOL
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>>719661264
Its what they get for not supporting israel.
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>>719660028
>>video before this is crying about sex in books is icky and gross and how it needs to be banned
That is the one single thing that might make normalfag women start throwing pipe bombs at government buildings
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>>719661339
It's all artificial, retard. Nice job choosing a word even less descriptive.
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>>719656037
Kneel.
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>>719661485
missed the point.
'artificial difficulty', and 'artificial fun' (a parody of the former) were meaningless buzzwords of yesteryear, used to describe shit like dark souls.
>woooooooow this game is artificial difficulty
now it's 'safe'
>uhm safe horny! safe evil! safe safe safe!
it's literally just a meaningless descriptor slapped onto something, with poor justification.
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>>719659372
It means the villain is willing to do evil things such as murder, but is not willing to do things liberals get upset about such as saying "nigger".
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>>719661171
Is this some peta anti hunting thing?
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>>719661620
she doesn't judge people by their skin color or species so she's decent in my book
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>>719657596
This is exactly what 4chan in 201x wanted, they wanted paladin and human fuck yeah and all that other shit. Are you fags going to bitch about edginess now? Are we back to bush era conservatism?
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from what i gather most of you think any depiction of evil is safe unless they're straight up regular jews who call for white genocide and say this is all real this is not a joke we are going to kill you and your entire family put the game down and do something about it
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>>719656318
>you genocide the enemy tribe because you read too many books
>i genocide the enemy tribe because i don't want future rebels running around in my empire
>we are not the same
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>>719656568
making villains playable completely ruins any seriousness they held in the plot
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>>719661828
More accurately depict someone from a leftist ally demographic as a bad person. Hence why buffalo bill is still bitched about to this day.
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>>719656037
sephiroth
any persona 5 villian after kamoshida
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>>719659095
Would you let yourself get captured by the enemy in a fucking war?
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>I'm evil leader of evil Empire that does something evil like control press
>I'm the evilest person in the world
>I also support gays, trans right, women rights and Jewish state
>because not supporting those things is beyond evil
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>>719659095
Stalin said he escaped. Given it was his army that sacked the capital I'm inclined to trust him over the americans.
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>>719661242
right, that's how most of them got there, by being 'morally sound'
killing pedos is just a more or less safe way for these apes to indulge their violent tendencies
someone who bashes grandmas over the head isn't suddenly a moral person just because he wants to kill other amoral people, they're both scum
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>>719661865
No, it's just a movie about a serial killer.
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Yes, villains are only REAL villains if they say nigger! They should also skin puppies and eat babies! It's the most childish and cheap way to make something look bad but it upsets the heckin snowflakes so it must be based, right? Meanwhile a lot of you would lose your minds if the villains said trans rights and supported gay marriage.
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>>719661872
She did judge people based on how strong in the Force they were, and considered non-Force sensitives to be inferior beings
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Any character that swears too much.
Swearing is not a substitute for a personality.
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>>719662210
Stalin was notoriously paranoid so unless they had brought the body for him to personally identify then he probably wouldn't have believed it
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>>719658612
You wouldn't explode into chunks if a piano fell on you.
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>>719662393
wow I wonder why the people running the world don't let people portray their ideology as wrong in media?
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>>719661264
WHy would magas be shooting White people?
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>>719662791
they questioned why Israel needs another 3 billion dollars of weapons from USA
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>>719662791
higher rate of domestic violence and psychopathy and to own the libs
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>>719662248
I don't view people who pay money to house and feed pedos with the hopes that they'll be murdered by other bad people, and cheered on when it does happen because they're too spineless to do it themselves, as morally just like you do. Also the data doesn't match your claims that everyone in prison is equally at risk of being murdered compared to pedos. Obviously the implication of my post wasn't clear but now you know.
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>>719657390
Griffith
>Fucks everyone over just to get laid
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I don't even know why everything needs to be boundary pushing all the time. What is with people and "Safe" prefixes anyways? Safe Horny, Safe Edgy now Safe Evil.
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>>719662669
psh, maybe YOU wouldn't
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>>719657390
Rufus has some positive traits, but President Shinra is just going out of his way to kill millions of people and destroy the planet for money he absolutely has no use for.
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>>719663108
>What is with people and "Safe" prefixes anyways?
because corpos are pushing everything safe now?
"safe masculinity" - nu-Kratos
"safe horny" - horny but only for something women allow men to be horny,etc.
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>>719656242
Any vidya examples of this? I can only think of IRL examples.

>>719658965
She said romantasy is porn for women, so now all the chuds love her, expect new cross-board threads with every upload.
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>Make an average pretty princess durge
>calling her a deranged sociopath isn't giving enough credit or empathy to sociopaths or the deranged
>Murder count in the hundreds or thousands
>Game makes a joke that in their list of crimes is necrophilia
>Have a mental breakdown denying it, claiming it's non Canon.
Make one billion Corpses and no one bats an eye. Love one and everyone loses their minds.
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>>719658530
Whites have a moral system, migrants however ...
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>>719656037
le church bad
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>"safe masculinity" - nu-Kratos
This is just whitewashing an effeminate basedboy; saying he's 'masculine' at all is more than he deserves. this is unironically pushing the boundaries of what is considered masculine, and attempting to shift the window ever so slightly to eventually make things acceptable.
do not fall for it.
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it can be funny though
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>>719659428
>WHY IS EVERYTHING SAFE NOW??
>NOW??
You must be 18 to post here.
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ITT:
>The villain kills people because he was physically and verbally abused by his mother when he was a young kid
>/pol/ why isn't he racist? This is safe evil!1!!
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>>719656568
We have the espada at home type shit
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>>719663639
>racism is evil
lol, lmao even
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>>719658098
I get that not every villain has to be capable of doing all kinds of acts considered evil.
However when every villain comes out with the same set of arbitrary lines they refuse to cross, it makes them feel formulaic and uninteresting.
When MGSV ground zeroes came out, the villain does some very despicable things. Forcing the rape of a woman whom he was interrogating, and planting a bomb in her vagina knowing that when she gets rescued, her rescuers wouldn't think to check her.
This villain is never portrayed as anything but despicable for this. And yet, people tried to act as if kojima went too far.
If you refuse to let villains have teeth and do anything offensive beyond murder and tyranny, than that does not make for memorable villains
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>>719663280
>Any vidya examples of this?
Arthur from red dead 2. Causes chaos robbing civilians nonstop and slaughters tons of lawmen in the process but hes wholesome because loves lenny the token black and is fine with women voting.
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>>719663385
>Whites have a moral system
Funniest post I've seen on /v/ for some time
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>>719663570
he's a BETTERMAN okay?! He's the one who will teach next generation not to ask women about their past and take care of their sons and then teach THEM how to be a better man
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I criticize Remake a lot but I love how Rufus is presented

>Reeve
>There's a question I never had the chance to ask your father. Perhaps you can speak on his behalf

>Reeve
>We used Avalanche's activities as a cover to sabotage our own reactors and destroy Sector 7.
>Your father assured us these acts were in service to the Neo Midgar Project.
>However, the fact remains that we have yet to locate the "promised land" of legend, or even confirm if it actually exists.

>Rufus
>Great though he was, my father was old
>And in his dotage, he became rash
>But while we're on the subject, there's something I've been meaning to ask all of you regarding those decisions.
>Why is it that none of you even tried to stop him?

President Shinra was going to sign off on Aerith being raped. So he could harvest the children as experimentation fodder so he find their equivalent of Heaven to harvest for money. President Shinra had zero redeeming qualities and the only one in FF7 worse than him is Hojo
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>>719663745
Killing statists is objectively good, though
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>>719662791
They aren't actually racist or a white only bunch so why wouldn't they?
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>>719661265
i'm already in argentina
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For me it's over the top, unstable, sadistic villains who are evil because they just enjoy it.
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>>719656552
idk ask ben-gurion
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>>719658096
Why does he have such a prominent chin?
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>>719663739
Remember that fallout mod and its drama? And how people got upset at being able to put a bomb collar on a girl and make her your slave? I think some of the outrage was due to her age and I get that (Even if a fictional character blah blah blah), but they would have been just as outraged if she was 28 years old because you could theoretically do that in the game.

If you remember in the 2010s everyone shit on 50 shades. Some people shit on it for bad dialogue, some people shit on it for bad representation of BDSM, but a lot of people (men and women) shit on it because it had a not-healthy and not-ideal relationship depicted as an erotic fantasy for women, and thus was immoral and wrong. The same applies for villains writ large. The Karenkall is coming from inside the house and it's not just external actors like Collective Shout doing it, they get enabled by fellow traveling useful idiots - chiefly reddit faggots who became soft neutered nu-kratoses and will think anything that makes them uncomfortable is transgressive and wrong.
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>>719657378
you'd feel the same way if you had to deal with j*suits
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>>719663280
I don't know why this couple weirds me out so much. I've watched my share of political pundits. I've seen people wearing suits. But something about how they present themselves feels so forced and posed I get a gut feeling they're masking some sort of strange shit below the surface.
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>>719663964
For me, it's force of nature evils that aren't even really sapient and just act on instinct
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>>719663121
based water-retainer
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>>719663739
The problem with Kojima doing sensitive shit like rape mostly comes from the fact that Kojima is very blunt and childish in most of the themes he presents. Yeah Metal Gear has violence but like cartoon violence. Fultoning a car so you can shoot the balloon and let the car land on someone's head. Even when you just shoot a guy, he just stops existing. They're never characterized as people. The most grim scene in the game aka Venom killing his infected men is more presented as a mercy killing. But with rape, that shit just hits too close to home for a lot of people. And you can't have any kind of levity after you've included a rape scene. No one is going to enjoy Paz climbing in the box with Snake knowing what it leads to.

I'm not going to say rape is impossible to do in video games. Final Fantasy Tactics references a 13 year old Rapha being raped and even then it only alludes to it. But it's still given a lot of gravity and I don't think most trust Hideo "this bikini will make you regret your words and deeds" Kojima to treat that subject matter well.
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>>719656037
>safe horny
>safe evil
Why can't you just talk like normal people? What does safe evil even mean?
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>>719663836
Sure but robbing people who are just trying to make a living under the boot of the state is fucked up.
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>>719664629
Basically the idea of being just edgy enough to differentiate themselves from the standard villain but not so edgy that they're no longer marketable.
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>>719661781
Despite concepts being used by retards, that does not make them retarded.
Skyrim Legendary is the definition of 'artificial' difficulty, its difficult because the scaling is super fucked and HP is obnoxiously high.
Meanwhile, a game like Borderlands 2, or any multiplayer friend-based game is 'artificial' fun. The game isn't fun on its own merits, but because of the people you're playing with.
While you can complain about the linguistics, you're not gonna convince the average person of a concept if you're calling it something like corporatized archetypes or focus-tested design philosophy. But those aren't as easy to explain as lazy shorthand.
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>>719658025
>ELDER GOD TIER: Villains whose motives are hard to find fault in and are arguably better than the hero's
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>>719657390
Rapist shark
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>>719660201
The same goes for predator hunters. Thugs who just want an easy target
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>>719657390
Pretty much any rapist, pedo, or racist
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>>719660028
You know she just reads the most depraved fanfition
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>>719664312
Why would you have an eyeball in your mouth hole?
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>>719657390
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>>719657596
>its all being sanitized for an audience that refuses to engage with anything more nuanced than Sunday morning cartoons.
>tfw you remember there have been adults that think LOTR is the peak of human literature and storytelling for over 70+ years by now
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>>719657927
It was funny there because the Joker is suddenly a patriot out of nowhere and refuses to help a kraut, while >>719657873 has him do a bunch of cringy moralizing on behalf of the writer.
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nowadays, villains are
>nazi-variant
safe evil: safe to hate and do anything against them
>commie-variant
usually: tragic past, so, family was murdered, was tortured and raped and/or only being a mass-murdering totalitarian dictator for the people's own good because it's it's the only way
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>>719657390
>Evil goblin financier with a jewish phenotype
Doesn't sound very safe evil to me.
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Be honest, it's all about rape isn't it? You just want to see more rape in games. How much rape would you like? You want every single villain to rape somebody on screen at least twice before you're convinced of how evil they are? No wonder chudcels make terrible writers.
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>>719661408
I'm not like that thoughbeit. You're the one who identifies with villains.
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>>719663328
>ahh
>rizzing
Behead zoomers
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>>719657390
Anything Jewish coded:
>Misers
>Manipulative advisors
>Shadow government
>Hags
>Rodents
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>>719666391
yes I admit it
I want rape
I want to see women rape men
I want to see muscular amazonian women rape men
I want to see unassuming shy girls rape men
I want to see little girls rape men
I want to see women who are otherwise normal get their personality rewritten into being total rapists
I want to see hags rape men
I want to see futa women rape men
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Evil is blatantly self-serving at the expense of others seen as the "other", that's what I thought what agreed upon. The more widespread and damaging the harm on others is, the more evil the person is perceived to be. It's the aggrandization of the self as the single godlike being in one's own existence, the lack of empathy, the lack of morals that aren't self-serving.
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>>719666663
if you put it that way...
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>>719666663
Holy based
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>>719666663
I was not expecting this level of based in this thread, holy shit
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>>719666391
Woman CANNOT stop thinking about rape. And the ones who deny it are the biggest fans.
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>>719656037
when white man is antagonist (every SBI game)
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>>719666663
So close to super-satan digits
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>>719666666
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>>719667213
those would be dubs and therefore forbidden in /v/ since no fun is allowed here
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>>719667246
Hello crossboarder!
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>>719656037
link to the video? sounds fun IMHO
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>>719666391
that's what women want, not men
all modern media is written by women for women
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>>719667398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cv659HLRUg
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>>719667452
ty
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>>719666391
1 rape is good enough for me. Implied rape counts too.
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>>719658809
This. Jews have a massive boner for all kind of sadistics displays of suffering so they flood every corner with this shit using the media they control, but because they worship disgusting women they frow upon beauty and nourishment, and want to impose a gynocentric iron age over the planet and destroy everything good from this world.

He probably can't call them out, but i assume you know why.
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>>719657390
Algus from FFT
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>>719667452
What's the difference between a villain and an antagonist tho?
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>>719667452
She has them sanpaku evil type eyes in her. I get that vibe a lot from chud hoes.
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>>719657390
what's a safe villain?
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>>719667725
Its the nose, she's half-bred.
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>>719667708
She explains this in like the first 2 minutes of the video, anon.
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>safe whatever

Och laddie, just say "nae true Scotsman puts sugar in 'is porridge" an' be done with it!
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>>719667452
>Monster Hunters are the real villains
Never considered this trope and its real. Why is the media like this? Why do they refuse to let monsters be monsters?
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>>719667774
The "I can save her/him!" archetype
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>>719657390
Handsome Jack, believe it or not. Just a greedy cunt who stopped at nothing in his pursuit of endless wealth and power.
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>>719658612
this scene fucked me up more than anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR9wl4Qve5E
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>>719667903
>just say random gibberish only a literal boomer (the cancer of society) would understand
Cringe.
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>>719659029
>Nazis were at least fighting international jewry and international banking clichés
that's a headcanon

hitler's main goal was colonizing eastern europe for germany, aka genociding and ethnically cleansing tens to hundreds of millions of mostly blonde white natives of the region, and they did kill over 30 millions in the process and would have killed far more if the soviets don't defeat them

it's ironic how antisemitefags are the ones falling for the "jews were the biggest victims of the nazis" narrative the most. Nazis were primarily killing white people and were using the same methods against them that Isrealis are using against palestinians: total siege and starvation of entire cities including their civilians and pows, and indiscriminate killing of them whenever it isn't "too on the nose" and can be at least half assedly denied

the only thing nazis were "better" at than isrealis is that at least they were trying to do all the genocide in a secret from the world media, while Isrealis knowing that the entire western empire and media is defending them and damage controlling for their proxy no matter what are a lot more emboldened and have a lot more radical retards openly boasting about their plans.
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>>719667890
I'm 7 minutes in and I missed it, I was staring at her cum-filled mug.
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>>719667987
Och laddie, yer nae true Scotsman laddie, yer nae true Scotsman!
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>>719656037
>safe horny fags trying to push "safe ____" variations
>literally who
kill yourselves twitterniggers
just call them shit villains, it's that easy
>muh subversion and grey morality
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>>719656037
Every villain who won't actually have do anything actually morally fucked up. None of them rapists. None of them kill children. None of them drug addicts. None of them actively causing open harm to people. Everyone is "secretly" evil and probably have a right wing political view for no other reason than the writer being a radical leftist.
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>rape is too hardcore for the seasoned psychopath
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>>719668060
>tranime avatarfagging
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>im gonna freakin destroy the world and kill all the people or some shit
>but I'LL NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER SAY 'NIGGER'
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>>719668076
Nae true horny.
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>>719656242
>villain is depraved genocidal and evil
>still respects the player's pronouns
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>>719668076
You're falling behind.
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>>719668210
Do you want to know why I keep posting Flintheart Glomgold? Because he's an Afrikaner pretending to be Scottish, or in other words he's no true Scotsman.
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>mass murderer says "TRANS RIGHTS"
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>>719668302
No, I don't want to know. I don't care about children's cartoons like tranime shit. Grow da fuck up and play a sports.
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>>719667926
FWIU it goes something like this.
>Once upon a time, you weren't supposed to put fags in your movie scripts, unless they were clearly evil or something terrible happened to them
>Basically, anything with a fag had to be allegory for why fags were bad, and was enforced by some board of ethics or some shit
>Hollywood was still full of queers back then, so they just wrote a bunch of flamboyant, obviously gay villains and monster characters (this is where "[thing]-coded" comes from, i.e. a character who is never confirmed to be gay, but was written to behave like a fag is "gay-coded")
>fags growing up see themselves represented in monsters and villains, so identify with them
>they play a bunch of D&D where they roll up their demisexual half-orcs and quasigender himsbian tieflings
>they now believe that all demons and monsters are intrinsically fag-coded, so anything that portrays them in a negative light is implicitly sending a homophobic (or racist) message
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>>719657390
The bad guys from Sin City
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>>719656037
What about safe good guys? or safe morally grey guys?
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>>719664518
>Hideo "this bikini will make you regret your words and deeds" Kojima
lol

But I'm pretty sure most people will enjoy Paz more knowing the rape stuff because it makes everything sexual all the time. And you just think of yourself as her savior.
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>>719657120
He ran a train on Collei anon. Collei the 4 star character we get for free is no longer a virgin because of him.
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>>719668351
Stop committing the No True Scotsman fallacy and I'll stop calling you out on it.
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>>719667452
>click this video
>inmediatelly gets reccomended other videos of her titled "Women's literature doesn't exist, the absolute degeneracy of modern writing"
Who is she and why does she makes videos like these?
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>>719663280
Any modern Wow villain.
Completly neutered, either too dumb or evil to be liked (or both)
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>>719668447
You're not calling out anything. From the moment you interacted with me I've been insulting you for your practices. This is not a discussion.
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What about him
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>>719659047
At least here in our history there is roughly one major war every 100 years (because all the people that fought in the last major war are all dead and the people living now either think they were full of crap, their stories were fabricated/exaggerated or simply just ignorant of them or time simply warped history to something glorified when it was actually rather horrible).

WW1 and WW2 were almost 100 years after the Napoleonic Wars. The Napoleonic Wars were roughly 100 years after the Wars for Spanish Succession and Great Northern War. Those were roughly 100 years after the 30 Years War, etc.

So it getting nuked 100 years later even in the manga seems in the realm of possibilities.
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>>719668059
Understandable.
>Antagonist is anything which opposes the protagonist (e.g. it could be a hurricane)
>Villains are a type of nigga, with some sort of motivation (e.g. making fat stacks), so they can't be a force of nature or nothing
I don't necessarily agree with this distinction, but it's the one she made.
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This may or may not be a safe hot take, but people (X tourists) who use the term "Safe [thing]" should be safe raped and safe brutally murdered
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>>719668524
Who is he?
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>>719668361
>villain bad because hes ugly
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>>719668571
we need less safe rape
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>>719667708
An antagonist isn't necessarily evil.
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>>719668524
>Blood Meridian fan excited to read his favorite book for the first time
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>>719668515
Right, because you're a horrid little toad who doesn't actually want to engage in a rational discussion, you just want to loudly yell "I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO!" and act like you're better than everyone else and you shouldn't have to abide by the same rules. No wonder you love logical fallacies so much, if you ever stopped using them you'd never even come close to winning an argument. Not that you get close when you do use them.
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>>719668370
>What about safe good guys?
Damn near every lawful good character

>or safe morally grey guys?
Punisher. He's so safe that actual police officers use his iconography even though the character hates the cops because they failed him
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>>719668559
Damn bro, thanks. Villains could be a concept tho, right?
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>>719658704
Weak bitch. Also that little shit was the entire reason the not skyneedle exploded, crumbled, and killed everyone else. Deserved.
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>>719656037
>Hannibal Lecter
>Modern
Also
>9 minutes ago
I've never said this before, but buy an ad.
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>>719656037
The covenant from halo probably. They just genocide ppl, no rape, nothing else involved.
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>>719656242
>so is rape
>and sexism
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>>719668458
At least she didn't blame men, I guess.
But she is right, women literature is so degenerate that A/B/O was made to make Mpreg work in their stories.
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>>719668524
he rapes kids, curses nature and worst of all he's bald
he's anything but "safe"
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Reading in between the lines, it just seems like chuds just don't like any sort of moral ambiguity at all and even seem to be a bit baffled that a lot of libs just pity them.
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>>719659253
wait so itself?
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>>719668694
>boomers using boomer terms
>rational conversation
lol
Even Millennial lingo is above boomerism.
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>>719668607
Actually he's ugly because he's bad
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Hoyo has a habit of de-fanging all their villainous characters. Pic related. He went from a revenge driven vigilante who murdered to a good boy who dindu nuffin and didn't harm a single person in the span of a single patch.
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>>719668614
That's just Japanese sex.
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>>719656318
Did the comment go over your head, anon? The guy you responded to is explaining what "safe evil" means. Because the consensus held in modern day society is so stratospherically fucked up that they literally consider a white male saying the word "nigger" as somehow morally worse than torturing thousands of innocent people to death.

It's basically a way of illustrating that certain irrational triggers are deemed "too risky" to incorporate into a fictional narrative, so they are avoided at all costs in order to avoid offending any of the "protected groups".
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>>719668850
wtf
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>>719668830
You realize that calling people boomers isn't a magic spell that makes you right, don't you?
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>safe evil
genocide
>unsafe evil
rape of women, racism, childkilling
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>>719658612
Actually, kids need to die in movies more. I watched the new Jurassic Park movie, and none of the annoying shitty little kids died despite the kids dealing with these super hyper predators that are 10 if not 20 times more deadly than modern animals; it's fucking annoying and shit writing. I don't care if they do a cutaway death scene, just have the kids be killed every now and then.
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>>719656568
>chinaman's wandenreich
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>>719668348
>mass murderer says "TRANS RIGHTS"
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>>719661171
>that ragdoll
LMAO
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>>719668910
Using Boomer lingo makes you a boomer, even if you were born in 2010.
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>>719668845
>hugo vlad
That guy is literally me. I enjoyed that chapter probably more than anyone else due to how personal it felt. Even such specific things like his mother threatening to gouge out his eyes; it's like 1:1.
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>>719656037
All of Tyranny stands testament to this.

You could be more evil in KOTOR.
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>>719656428
Bleach did it
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Give me your favorite non-safe evil women in video games anons
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>>719667774
Portrayed as an idiot, not touching on any sensitive issues, losing the argument, basically the writer's strawman. I could write a believable communist villain that isn't an idiot, and readers would sympathise with him and his cause, and even in death he would narratively win, even if I generally regard communism as the second worst atrocity to befall humanity. The stories in media today are for children, by children.
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>The bad guy is attractive
One of the worst ones out there.
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>>719669246
The least safe evil "woman" that I can think of.
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>>719667986
nigger what the fuck
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>>719667986
Did anyone else get a boner from this?
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>>719669037
I'm genuinely amazed the boyfriend didn't bite it. The movie didn't try to redeem him as a character, he just stayed obnoxious and unfunny the whole movie and even went out of his way to kill any potential development like when his dad tried to show him respect.
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>>719669037
God FORBID a dog dies though.
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>>719667774
Some reason Google said Syndrome was a safe villain but I don't believe them.
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>villains are explicitly labeled as evil by the narrator
>then they get a chance to speak and they have a damn good reason for what they're doing
>but then they reveal the atrocities they've already committed on the way here
>but they regret it because they had no choice
>now they're going to enthusiastically keep doing it until they achieve their goal
>the goal is actually objectively a good thing and there's no other way to accomplish it without massive sacrifices
>the hero kills them all anyway and dooms everyone and historians call the villains demons (they all got genocided)
How can I make my villains unsafe evil?
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>>719663328
2 is so outrageously based it's fucking unreal.
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>>719667986
Kino is back on the menu?! I haven't watched ANY movie since the first Joker movie.
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>>719669594
This is exactly why Jojo has its villains kill dogs. Araki KNEW that nobody would care if they killed random humans, but if they hurt a dog, that would make the reader want to see the villain get their comeuppance.
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>>719669113
I didn't even realize that this guy was an actual shooter for about a day because I thought it was a photoshopped picture of Jerma.
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>>719668845
Last good hoyo villain died with Otto.
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>>719658996
OP uses an edited image. The actual video have a completely different channel name hosted by a woman.
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>>719668458
heckin based grifter whore and/or porn hating radfem
hard to tell and im not watching either video to find out
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>>719669735
I thought Dio killed a dog and everyone wants to bone him.
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>>719669704
how is he a villain? he is dead
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>>719669682
Villain have standards that are monstrous to normal people.
Like a villain that thinks everything will be fixed if everybody is lobotomized into automatons
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>>719669998
every main game enemy
>I backstabbed these people for the lulz
crimson court
>this lady tried to kill me, so I poisoned the whole party with her blood for the lulz
color of madness
>this guy asked for my help, the nigger, so I called down a space alien for the lulz
end of the game
>i fused with the heart of the world morty, I'm eldritch aaaaancestooooorrr
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>>719670167
These villains literally want to genocide almost all humans because their magic thing has metastasized and started infecting non-humans. They tried to undo the human magic thingy but decided it would be easier to just kill all humans.
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>>719667986
This was more funny than anything. If I was younger it might've scared me. Maybe I'm just jaded.
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>>719670294
Yes, but the protagonist never met him.

The protagonist fought the evils he unleashed, but not himself.
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>>719657390
>Villain is sympathetic without being safe
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>>719670495
>implying dagoth ur is a villain at all
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>>719656037
that woman is based, that's an edited screenshot, and you're all retarded.
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>>719661171
What movie or TV show? I can't find shit.
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>>719670479
It doesn't matter, he is behind 90% of the problems in the game
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>>719670656
The House that Jack Built.
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>>719657390
Handsome Jack
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>>719670335
>the goal is actually objectively a good thing
>These villains literally want to genocide almost all humans
Anon...
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>>719666391
At least one would be nice.
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>>719664057
he's a chad, unlike chuds
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>>719670730
The magic thingy is systematized, metastatic soul magic that forces "classes" onto peoples' souls when they come of age, which takes all of their future potential and funnels it into two classes which progress faster, but prevents them from growing in other directions. A kind of flanderization that makes one somewhat super human. It's supposed to be optional but when everyone else is doing it, one can't really compete without participating, and it's gone on long enough that short lived humans forgot they did it to themselves and think it's the natural way of things.

now the system is more like a curse, and it's spreading to the elves, who are fucking pissed it infected some of their kids. They decided to study it, but young elves started seeking it out on purpose as a shortcut to greatness. The elders got pissed, killed all the young elves, and tried to break the system, but they can't since the system has too many human hosts reinforcing it and spreading it. So it's easier to kill all or most of the human hosts to prevent it reinfecting the elven youth.

The hero winds up killing all the elves in the end, because literally every elf joined the human extermination army.
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>>719670730
>>719671009
As for why it's a good thing, the system is pretty bad for humans too, but there's no way to prevent human children from getting the system without mass death of humans who already have the system. If some humans survived the purge, they could repopulate without a soul curse spreading unchecked and live happier lives.

In the long run, more humans would be born and live complete lives after the purge than there would be humans purged.
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>>719661242
they still kil each other all the time, they don't kill other inmates as much because they have friends to take revenge and the guards are less likely to look the other way
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>>719660028
>>719665638
>bring attention to the fact that smut isn't being called smut and that it even constitutes the most-read material by underage girls
and now you spergs are seething because anything that isn't pro-pornography is apparently puritanical rhetoric. if you think merely identifying a book that's (exclusively) about beast-fucking as "smut", is equivalent to calling for obscenity laws, you're retarded.
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>>719670701
Thanks
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>>719670806
Good example. Didn't he give one of the men a big monkey dick and then turn the woman into a whore who could think of nothing else?
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>>719671009
>LitRPG Gattaca with Nazi racial struggle ideology slapped on
could be kino
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>>719671147
Stop being sexist towards women media, bigot
women are allowed to write pregnant men.
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>>719658704
lol
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>>719670467
as an adult it's creepy but 11 year old me found it scary
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>>719658965
>find
you didn't find anything, someone paid to have the algo feed it to you, you and OP are similar faggots since you are both posting here, so he got the same recommendation
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>>719671147
Adolescence is recognizing the dangers and evils of censorship.
Adulthood is realizing the dangers and evils of the wrong information presented to an unprepared mind.
Also in this specific instance anons don't realize how female sexual arousal works, how utterly filthy their smut books are, and that it's being deliberately marketed to underage girls because text has more 1A protections than images do.
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>>719656037
Spec Ops: The Line
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>>719656037
The lengths that people go to get mad at something so petty is genuinely baffling to me.
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>>719671486
You have to use your imagnation for books anyway.
No one is stopping you from giving Hermione big yonkers when reading the Goblet of Fire.
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>>719658362
Donald Trump is both
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>>719671240
Yeah I'm almost at the point of writing the climactic final battle but I need to really compress the villain's motivations and portrayal through like three different lenses, and I don't want them to be safe evil.
Should I include some racist rhetoric about humans? Maybe have them offer to enslave human children below a certain age as "survivors" so that humanity isn't extinguished?
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This movie is great, can't find a fault in his argument about about creating a symbol, he's an auteur in his own way.
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>>719662026
Anglos yes, russians no
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>>719671751
>he doesn't know about Rhine meadow camps
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>>719671486
>>719671147
>muh danger to underage girls
literally the same argument as the Collective Shout
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>>719671863
reread my post and try using your brain this time you retarded sperg. bye-bye now.
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>>719671629
Exactly what I meant. Lemme find a scene. You really don't understand how fucked up this is, it's like giving e621 access to an twelve year old boy during lockdown.

Fourth Wing by Yarros.
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There are people in this thread who don't want to make millions of roasties seethe by banning their smutslop because it's le puritanical.
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>>719671837
beats rape-murder-rape
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>>719671215
Yep. He also made up a concentration camp psychodrama in order to torture a jewish Nazi scientist.
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>>719671743
kek
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>>719657390
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>>719656037
Cannibals.
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>>719656037
>yet another shitty buzzword to spam
>no one posts any examples of what this garbage is supposedly referring to besides some characters from a Chink gacha aimed at 12 year olds
What a joke of a board.
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>>719671863
Do you think that, perhaps, just MAYBE, there's a CHANCE that telling young impressionable girls to go out and have unprotected sex and it's a good thing and empowering and no possible downsides and to hate the idea of being wives and mothers, do you just for a moment consider it worth pondering that that's not good?

Taking it another way: should uneducated morons who don't understand history or economics be exposed to the Communist Manifesto? Do you think that's a good idea?
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>>719659029
when are you mullahs going to understand I don't care about your faggot foreign war thousands of miles away, you can all die for all I care
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>>719656037
safe horny
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>>719672154
Welcome to 4chan.
The OP post is often a bait post to talk about the opposite.
Everyone that has been around for more than 4 years knows this, because it works every time.
This is a prime example of "OP is a fag" please remember it well, it will be on the test.
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>>719660028
She sounds based and you sound jewish
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>>719672041
I don't see the problem here, weren't you fantasizing about sex when you were a teen?
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>>719672154
It's a poorly defined word that means different things to different people, and it only exists to trap anons in a philosophical torment nexus where they try to reach a consensus about shit that doesn't matter

Although it might predate the video in OP's image, we're still ultimately discussing something because some sub-1000 view video by an account literally called 'femoid' made a video about it. jesus fucking christ.
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>>719672649
The issue is labeling. As a teen, my parents could see what media I was consuming, and had a pretty good idea if it was age appropriate based on rating labels. Fourth Wing is a book that is entirely unlabeled, yet contains explicit sex scenes, and indeed the entire thing is basically a porno parodying a fantasy novel.

The video about women's literature not existing makes the point better than I can here. Girls are exposed to this, some of them get porno brain over it, and it's as unhealthy as giving a teenaged boy unfettered internet access and a lock on his door.

This goes beyond fantasy, and you don't understand it literally because your male and your male brain requires images to get aroused. The female brain doesn't work like that.
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>>719656037
>>719667452
TL;DR for those who cant be bothered
>Only good exists, therefore, you can only define evil by absence of evil.
>How and what good things a character choose to go against defines how evil it is.
>In post-modernism, everything is a social construct, especially good and evil
>If everyone can have its own definition of what is good and evil, then nothing is
>Since nothing is good and evil. What a post-modernist author sees as good and evil is whatever critique they what to plant in his work.
The result is the usual woke stuff you see in media, like women being badass for the sake of showing badass women and men being bad because no man can be good etc
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>>719672154
what, you want to discuss video games in a video game thread? what are you, a right wing extremist? fucking chud! we talk politics and anime here, you fucking tranny bigot!
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>>719673195
>because your male and your male brain requires images to get aroused
>>>>>>>>he is unaware
I don't need pictures, just give me numbers.
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>>719673195
Thank you for informing me of what can get me off or not, but if that were the case fanfic made by and for men wouldn't exist at all.
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>>719673317
Good point. Baron Praxis is not safe evil. Just evil.
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>>719673409
>You will never get this many (you)s
what's the point
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>>719673550
So then why are you against labeling smut so that parents can see what is in the media their children are consuming?
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>>719668458
People might call her a pick-me.
I call her based.
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>>719673729
>being normal and sensible as a woman in 2025 earns you some retarded "negative" label
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>>719673729
Pick mes are by definition based.
It's a good thing for a woman to attempt to attract men by appealing to what men want.
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>>719673918
Correct. This is what third- and fourth-wave feminism have wrought.
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>>719669924
>heckin based grifter whore and/or porn hating radfem
Can someone translate from Amerimutt to English?
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>>719674103
He's mad a woman is talking.
His words don't actually have any meaning or intent behind them beyond that.
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>youtube screencap thread
>243 views 9 minutes ago
>no one cares
Bot thread unironically
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>>719673918
pick-me is a social enforcement mechanism invented by women to punish other women for behaving in a way that doesn't denigrate men. when you understand this, it becomes clear why it tries to label ordinary behavior as negative.
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>>719656242
>I might be a pedophile but at least I'm not rude
It's literally that smuggie meme
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>>719673680
Why are parents buying things for their kids without even reading a couple reviews?
Sounds like you just want the big daddy gov to parent your kids.
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>>719674229
>The OP image was clickbait slop so the topic must be 100% slop too
Kill yourself
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>>719674259
Americans do that shit all the time, like how they call "basic" anyone who isn't a blue haired mentally ill mutt
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>>719674103
RADFEM is like the harry potter writer, they can appear conservative on some issues, i.e. they hate trannies, but not because of moral reasons, but because they hate men so much that the idea of a men even entertaining the idea of existing around female Goddesses should be punishable by death.
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>>719674319
I think there's a point of reasonableness, wherein a book that contains explicit erotic content should be labeled as such.
Explicit descriptions of clits, penises, vaginas, assholes, and the sexual use thereof should be labeled somewhere on the cover. That's not an outrageous standard.

>Why are parents buying things for their kids without even reading a couple reviews?
Because the presumed standard for books sold in barnes&noble used to be that the books wouldn't contain explicit sex scenes, plus 600 pages of emotional foreplay to the sex scene, where the sex scene is the entire climax of the novel (double entendre fully intended). Books no longer meet the old standard, to a degree that would have been unthinkable even ten years ago. Thus, labeling is warranted.

You want to know what the alternative to labeling is? Parents start teaching their kids not to read at all, because they'll just assume all books are smut books.
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>>719658098
anons just like seeing women get raped and molested. but they don't want to be up front and honest about it
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>>719656037
>hannibal
>safe evil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD10DXZbZew
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>>719674680
I remember a bunch of autists spent years seething about RDR2 because the game wasn't about Arthur killing niggers lol
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>>719656242
>I might be a people eating, raping piece of shit but at least I'm not a racist
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>>719656105
only when played straight
when given depth, the horror is making the audience realize they'd be one too
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>>719661171
that CGI looks faker than jurassic park
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>>719675134
Some women out there would 100% bang Aku.
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>>719669246
the female Mercs in Far cry 2
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>>719675101
it's a low budget artsy film, just 9mil
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>>719668894
No, guys like you are just morons who don't understand human psychology.

Genocide isn't personal. I feel nothing when I hear about the genocide of other people because it's too abstract.

You can watch Darth Vader slaughter people, but not prison rape people.
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>>719674754
>nothing happened
idgi
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>>719660989
When I came in to open up one morning, there he was with his head half in the toilet. His hair was in the toilet water, disgusting.
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>>719668524
just basically being the "devil" is safe evil
and hes not antoganist, hes heavy handed metaphorical placeholder for the judgement of time on the past
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>>719674103
She's either pandering for monetary gain to right wing men who get off on hearing women saying things they agree with or alternatively hates things men enjoy such as sex, attractive women, pornography etc.
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>>719675291
and the 2 seconds of cgi looks like a dreamcast cutscene
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>>719656242
They wrote what they know
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>>719675428
It seems everybody can agree Judge Holden is a heavy handed metaphor, though nobody can agree upon what, which makes me think that whatever he is a metaphor for, must not be so heavy-handed as is claimed.
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>>719673220
I dont follow the logic, nonreligious people don't have objective goods or evils but they're still definite and exist for the person. I think of like trees and how they "technically don't exist" since there's no strand of plant DNA or identifier for them or whatever, but trees obviously do exist. What a tree is might muddy from person to person but I think its a stretch to say that trees don't exist.
Maybe I should just watch the video.
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People are just inventing new buzz words now for money. It's maddening how transparent it is these days, no one has shame.
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>>719675492
Only untermensch enjoy porn though
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>>719656242
There's a whole subset of people who think The Boys TV show is one of the best series ever made but the comic is complete unreadable garbage solely because they saw the page where Homelander angrily says nigger as if he doesn't consider everyone equally beneath him regardless of race.
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>>719675592
only untermensch post on /v/
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>>719674259
Overt sellouts are pathetic
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>>719675492
For me, it's the writing advice videos.
I don't actually follow the advice but it gives me an idea of what people expect.
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>>719675528
what hell do people say other than Final Judgement?

you'd have to be some sort of athiest who grew up in a shitty cult completely isolated from anything from gospel to say something else
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>>719675674
can tell from those screenshots that those aren't what get her views though
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What a coincidence, I also had her videos fed to me, I wonder who's paying for the boost?
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>>719675615
> strawman argument
Okay Garth
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>>719675549
Think of it like this:
We could both agree on the idea of "good" and try to define it. We may not agree on the result. However, we agree that the concept exists, but it is hard to accurately define it.
Post modernists would say we're both right and two "goods" can exist at the same time. Which I hope we can agree that is nonsense
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>>719675674
>making shitty multimedia "homework" videos instead of writing anything
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>>719675735
Pacing video and boring characters video both did well.
Then a video shitting on GRRM popped off (deserved).
Then a video shitting on modern fantasy degeneracy in general and women's degenerate fantasy in particular popped off (also deserved).
Now this.

Still, I enjoy both the scathing critique of modern lit AND her writing advice vids.
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>>719675787
Didn't think she was getting boosted.
I always had writer tip videos because I enjoy writing on the side so seeing hers didn't seem out of place.
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Anyone with a boo hoo sob backstory
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>>719660028
>"hey this stuff is basically hentai for women"
>"we should label it as such and not give women a free pass for porn addiction"

No, she's based and you're cringe.
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>>719668458
>>719669924
>>719674103
>>719675492
>>719675674
Redditors played 'Blue Prince' and then she profited off of the algorithm because her work is also called 'Blue Prince'.
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>>719656242
Poster child for this.
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>>719676002
Thanks for the eceleb gossip
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>>719658025
Mihoyo went super basic after all the backlash of the russian hag shanking venti from normies. Everything after that has been incredibly basic "nobody is allowed to die" tier
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>>719675993
>muh porn addiction
i promise what ever fucked up shit is going on in your life is unrelated to you wanking it
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>>719656105
Nazis are peak evil. Rapist, pedophiles, mass murderers, fraudsters, liars.

Literally not a single evil act they have not committed.
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>>719674642
She says that there is never any reason to have sex scenes in a book and I take issue with that, there's never any reason to show anything, it's all plot contrivances by the author to enlicit a response in the reader, but some people like her are specially aggravated when it involves sexuality for some reason, it's just puritanism by other means.
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>>719661204
Dumb frog poster
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>>719661204
KEKKAROOOOOOOO
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>>719659218
>Ironically enough every single bad thing they say the nazis did is stuff either the jews believe about themselves
Other way around.

Everything the Nazis claim Jews did, nazis themselves actually did. Every, single, one.
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>>719667452
I'm not listening to a woman talk for almost an hour.
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>>719661907
> i don't want future rebels running around in my empire
You can count the examples of that happening on one hand.
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>>719667926
Because prejudice against 'the other' is the real monster and it often lurks in the hearts of white men
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>>719662791
Because they fucking hate 50% of white Americans more than they do anybody else on the planet?
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>>719657390
>filtered millions of redditors
She did literally nothing wrong btw.
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>>719657390
Hitler
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>>719676486
How is a sex scene necessary to drive the plot or character development? It's simply not. The same way it's not necessary to include shitting scenes (which she says in her video) unless the story is set in India, where they are unavoidable.

She was very clear about her point, and you failed to refute it. When is a sex scene necessary for anything other than titillation? And that's not even saying you CAN'T have sex scenes; but if you insist on having them, it's fair for people to insist it's labeled on the cover.
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>>719676837
>How is a sex scene necessary to drive the plot or character development?
Women can get pregnant anon. And I believe that can change the plot is drastic ways.
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>>719676614
i really doubt that
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>>719676553
This is the best "NO U" bait post I've seen in years. 10/10 trolling.
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>>719676553
It goes both ways, generally paranoid racists of all races tend to agree except they blame the other races for all the bad things
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>>719676884
Humans need to defecate anon. And I believe that can change the plot in drastic ways.

But it doesn't need to be explicitly described in titillating detail.

You're misunderstanding the point on purpose. Just label the cover.
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>>719676837
it doesn't have to be, the sole point of writing is not to advance PLOT, maybe if you got that you'd able to make something exciting to read and have a successful writing career and wouldn't have to resort to youtube video essays
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>>719656318
pants on head retarded post
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>>719677031
Cool response to nothing I actually said in my post.
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>>719657390
Yuujiro Hanma is a villain that nobody in the west could ever write nowadays
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>>719672207
Who's telling them to do that? Or are you trying to go for the 'depiction equals endoresement" angle that lefties love so much?
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>>719676887
Anon, most empires rarely had much of a reason to go around genociding the population to resettle land. Romans generally relied on a combination of terror and local rulers to maintain power, for instance.
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>>719656552
idk there's one puppeting the us president right now
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>>719661452

Lo, here I stand
Zweihänder in one hand
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>>719658096
>Superman
>Its actually his son
>Bisexual and its always with another man because the writers are colossal pussies won't make him full gay knowing the backlash would be immense
His BF also had weird superpowers that made him untouchable basically cause the writers where also afraid to have his gay boyfriend hurt.
Christ, they killed the Superboy and Robin series for this crap.
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>>719656242
modern media literally isn't allowed to portray /pol/ (villain or otherwise)
someone who is racist, sexist, etc, violent, but is allowed to explain their ideology, motivations and perspective
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What anons are looking for ITT are one-dimensional villains that are evil just cause. There is no depth, no end-goal, nothing that explains why they are the way they are. They just want a raping, murdering, moustache twirler is baddy Mcbad.
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>>719677019
If you have a sex scene you must label your book as porn, then if you have a shooting scene you must label it as a violent war story
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>>719671681
Rewrite it to have a human champion change sides to join the elves and destroy humanity and you get Eternal Champion.
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It's funny how they call these kinds of things "Safe X" but what's the danger, someone who is afraid of everything will cry at you if you chose "Dangerous X"? Oh no!
Why even capitulate.
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>>719659660
Its piss poor CGI, big problem with that movie, most of the deaths where things barely hitting someone and they would turn into a pile of flesh and bones.
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>>719677263
lmao /pol/ can't even explain itself, what is /pol/? it's an ideological mess, they jump from one opinion to the other based on what is perceived as fringe and edgy
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>>719669735
>>719669929
Meanwhile Kars killed two men to save a dog.
And everyone also wants to bone him.
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>>719677010
It does, but most Jews weren't racist.
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>>719677129
i'm sorry for using the word "empire"
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>>719677340
He is literally me.
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>>719677310
>then if you have a shooting scene you must label it as a violent war story
If there's a shooting or violence scene described in as gratuitous a fashion as >>719672041, where the main goal is to titillate, then yeah, I'm fine with it being labeled as "gore" on the cover.
I'm taking a principled stance, nice try.
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>>719657873
>>719657927
Makes a lot more sense when you realize that Joker would probably be either in a camp or executed outright. They weren't kind to the mentally ill. Not that Joker doesn't deserve that.
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>>719677404
t. has never seen a /pol/ schizo
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>>719676916
Hitler was backstabbing cunt, I was reading this book on cinema in the nazi germany and I read it while searching for the films it talked about, I could find some on Internet Archive, you can see in real time how nazi propaganda changed over time based on political expediency, most glaring example is their treatment of the SA.
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Is this the most "unsafe evil" thing in recent gaming history?
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>>719677470
Your "principled stance" is parroting shit some dumb cunt on youtube spewed to get views now that her talking points are supported by big daddy government, to get all the views from the bootlickers. You have no principles. You are a waste of skin.
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>>719677324
Most of the human champions from before the system DO join the elves, or at least agree not to get in their way. I've got a list of some dozen named/titled OP characters that don't show up in the main story, and it's a bit of a mystery leading up to the invasion because they all go missing mysteriously. The one who doesn't, a wizard with his own tower, gets poisoned by assassins and is incapacitated for the climactic fight.

The hero is actually just some random schmuck who develops a fantasy iron man suit and then lmao carpet bombs the elves, who are in fact overpowered, but they're not ready for kiloton yield bombs in a stereotypical medieval to early modern fantasy setting.

I think I'm going to stick with the elves being racist and offering out of the kindness of their hearts to spare and enslave the children to paint them as reprehensible.
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>>719677572
I still find it hard to believe Toby didn't see this as a metaphor for rape.
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>>719668815
>villain
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>>719677573
You must literally be a publisher worried about losing preteen girl sales if you have to label smut as smut.
You've failed to give any real reason to be against labeling.
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>>719677572
Yes.

Even if it wasn't literally rape, the whole thing was still very sexually assault tinted and basically done 100% by the player. Outside of hentai games, nobody is willing to allow the MC to rape. Even villain protagonists like Kratos or supposedly historical Vikings in games like Valhalla always only have consensual sex.
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>>719676475
But enough about the jews
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>>719677747
Except her argument wasn't against labeling, she wanted it removed period. Those books are already labeled as 18+
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>>719677714
He obviously did. He either just assumed his player wouldn't be this literal and autistic, or the entire thing was a deniability gambit.
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>>719677572
The way Toby does 'evil' is particularly effective because you really have to go out of your way to do it. It's not just 'the characters are evil', it's 'the evil is happening because YOU want it to happen'
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>>719677778
I am talking about Nazis.

see: >>719676553
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>>719677572
>>719677757
There's a cut Dark Urge ending for BG3 where you become a rape monster who just rapes animals for the rest of your life.
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>>719677714
Yeah just strikes me as him intending it that way originally and having to deflect to stop criticism from the woke crowd. Nevermind you have to go far out of your way to get to this content.
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>>719677747
it's censorship by other means and I'm against censorship to appease puritans and anti-sex feminists
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>>719677936
Sounds like a good joke ending, they should have kept it.
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>>719677852
Hmmm...

No, I think I'll blame chara.

>>719677936
Cowardly. Imagine getting shown up by a game for teenagers.
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>>719677783
Cool and my argument, which I've stated and you've insisted is actually her statement because you're an illiterate retard, is that it should be labeled but should also still be up for sale.
>Those books are already labeled as 18+
Nope.
https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Wing-Empyrean-Rebecca-Yarros/dp/1649377371
Not on the cover, not on the amazon page. Want to know why? Because this level of smut is SO NEW that it's NEVER had to be labeled as such before now. There isn't even a procedure to label something as smut. Nobody has ever been so disingenuous as to try to sell smut by disguising it as YA fantasy before.
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>>719677972
Labeling isn't censorship. Not even close.
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>>719677572
qrd?
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>>719678000
>that it should be labeled
It is already labeled. Her argument was that it is unfit for consumption by its intended audience due to its supposed extreme emotional impact and addictiveness of it. She demonstrated no examples of it other than citing anecdotal evidence of her own experiences with this literature, which may as well be fabricated. I am not going to allow emotional grandstanding and "trust me bro" levels of argumentation to influence my stance on censorship of literature.
>no one has ever sold written depictions of sex
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>>719666663
>I want to see muscular amazonian women rape men
I wish Troy Total War had gone with that. Should have had men as a resource like slaves wen you play Dark Eldar.
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>>719678156
>It is already labeled.
Where? It's literally not labeled. That's exactly my problem with it.

>Her argument was that it is unfit for consumption by its intended audience due to its supposed extreme emotional impact and addictiveness of it.
Yeah I found her argument for that compelling. But I still think it should be available. It's the same as drugs: I don't think anyone should do drugs, but I also don't support outlawing them. BUT THEY SHOULD BE LABELED AS SUCH. Not mixed into children's candy.

>She demonstrated no examples of it other than citing anecdotal evidence of her own experiences with this literature, which may as well be fabricated.
Not true, some other woman researcher had a book about it. You didn't watch the video and now you're making shit up.

>>no one has ever sold written depictions of sex
Not what I said. You have a bad habit of ignoring what people actually write/say, making up shit in your head to attack instead, and then pretend they said what you imagined. Does this work for your on R****t? On T*****r? Fuck off.
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>>719657390
Weebshit always deliver nuanced evil in a subtle way the western world is lacking, probably because they are mindbroken still to this day.
Kyuubey from meguca, Bondrewd from Made in Abyss, Kira from Jojo, the antispirals, Kirei from Fate, GOD in SEL, Nowak in Chi.
Calling all of these characters "evil" is already just seething at them and yet they don't fall for the trap of just "doing bad things because I have tragic past" or other dogshit.
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>>719678073
demanding labels with negative connotations is
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>>719678356
All of those are either 'im evil because im evil' or 'im evil because i wanna save the universe but i chose to do it in the evilest way possible'
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>>719678350
You sound like a histrionic woman. Qed.
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>>719656037
Why would Thanos, Hannibal Lecter, Commodus or the Witch King be calling people niggers (which is what this thread has lead me to believe what the problem is)
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>>719656568
All gachas have shit villains because they MUST become playable at some point, which guarantees they'll be defanged
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>>719678420
It's not. You're entitled to spread your ideas, text, images, whatever in a consensual way. You are NOT entitled to disguise your idea as something that would appeal to children AND profit massively by doing so.
You're simply not entitled to those sales, the same way a drug dealer isn't entitled to sell drugs to children. Yeah, it infringes on his personal liberty to ban him from the area around schools. It's worth it to society to do so, just like there's a social benefit to labeling smut as smut. Don't like it? Build your own distribution mechanism.

Analogous is the payment processor debacle with getting wrongthink games banned and pulled from sale. That's retarded. Those games were ALREADY labeled. Beyond that point, the payment processors are totally in the wrong.

My position is reasonable, and the only reason to think otherwise is emotional immaturity or being in a position to profit from lobbying against labeling smut as smut.
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>>719678574
Witch king would do it by accident while talking with their allies from Haradin.
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>>719678585
I like how FGO keeps them unapologetically evil they are just too busy lusting after your cock to care.
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>>719678585
Limbus Company has you roll for a version of them that is just one of the Sinners cosplaying as said villain, so that's something at least
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>>719678449
I accept your concession. Some day you will grow up and understand my points.
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>>719678618
I went through the trouble of perusing that book, your demagoguery is so easily demolished it is laughable as the very first page opens with a rather descriptive disclaimer. I would kill the likes of you if I could truly.
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>>719678090
Deltarune has a route where you basically torment a nerdy deer girl into becoming your slave by mindbreaking her with a magical ring and having her murder her friend.
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>>719678618
Drugs can be identified and their effects verified by objective tests, you labelling stuff you don't like as badwrong is entirely arbitrary.
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>>719678896
Japan really groomed Toby, huh.
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>>719678817
you don't get it, think of the parents that are too busy to even read the synopsis of what their kids are reading, this is why we need gubment!
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>>719678942
He was always like this. See the Halloween hack.
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>>719678896
Sounds based. And I thought indie pixelshit is just trooncore.
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>>719678817
I was very explicit in saying I want the label ON THE COVER. Not a trigger warning inside the book, buried among other less objectionable triggers. There is also the porn addiction / dopamine response to the sex scenes and immense foreplay built up throughout the book issue which goes unaddressed.

The label would be something like this: a recommended age, and the reasons for that recommendation. In this case: 17+ [violence, vulgar language, explicit sex scenes].
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>>719679010
>Sounds based
She's a Lesbian normally so it's also basically you rape correcting her into being straight again.
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>>719679040
>less objectionable triggers
why is violence less objectionable than sexuality you dunce?
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>>719678905
Oh so I should send all my kids' halloween candy to a lab to get tested for drugs, huh? Retard.
And no, it's not badwrong opinions. It's literal obvious titillating depictions of sex that go on for several pages after hundreds of pages of emotional foreplay. That's fine in an obvious bodice ripper romance novel with a shirtless dude on the front. It's not okay in a book disguised as children's fantasy.

>>719678965
I already said what will happen: parents will eventually just forbid their daughters from reading books, because they won't be able to trust that the books on the shelf don't contain explicit sex scenes. It's shortsighted of the industry to lobby against labeling.
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>>719679094
Because there's no dopamine response in the brain from reading about violence you twit.
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>>719669735
Readers were redditors back then too?
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>I want t
And I want you skinned alive on live TV and your skin hung from the local town hall spire. We can't all have the things that we want now, can we?
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>>719657390
Freeza.
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>>719679163
>I already said what will happen: parents will eventually just forbid their daughters from reading books
only retards will do that, I fail to see the problem here, it's their choice to be dumb
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>>719679094
Because fapping puts you on a cooldown and allows for proper decision making and no one wants you to make good decisions.
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>>719679254
I accept your concession, too.
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>>719679184
nice to see the same bs argument used by feminists to ban video-games, good job on exposing yourself, faggot
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>>719679184
Just the pleasant thought of violently dismembering you is immensely satisfying to me.
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>>719679326
>I can't understand the difference between actual porn addiction and a flawed theory that video games cause violence
Okay
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>>719679289
I accept you're confession.
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>>719679184
Correct. That's why people enjoy shooting games because... uh...
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>>719679381
they use that argument to censor hot female characters, you dishonest faggot nigger
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>>719679436
>cover accurately depicts what's inside
Wow! I wish they did that with books!
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>>719671486
No, You're just a weak bitch.
All ideas must be heard, it is up to you to decide right from wrong. Those who can't will perish and that is as nature intended.
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>>719679642
Anon can't see the apple, lulz



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