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The action slop coming to Souls was the worst thing to happen to this series. I did not come to Souls for that, in fact I came to Souls to get away from that. Call it a skill issue all you like, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 and 2 were games that appealed to me, and all the sequels and Soulslikes to come after missed the point so badly by removing everything clever the old games had.
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Yeah you right, but this really isn't a hot take outside of anything but ubernormie discussion.
Inb4 the zoomers that started with ds3/ER try to claim otherwise.
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>>719658950
ds3 poisoned the series for me, and Elden Ring made it even worse. And Soulslike all copy their homework instead of the old game.
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>>719658101
Fuck off retard, there were like 3 puzzle bosses in the whole game, and you had to fight your way through actual bosses to get to them.
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>>719659895
Still better than the 1 of Elden Ring. Unique bosses were part of the Souls identity for me, the way they were for Zelda.
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>>719658101
The bosses in Ocarina of Time are like 5% of the experience.
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>>719658101
>liking DeS and DaS1
>also liking DaS2
What the fuck? DaS2 was shit. DeS and DaS1 are significantly better. I started with DaS1 back when it released on console in 2011
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>>719658101
I like both but let's be honest, most DeS bosses are embarrassingly shitty. Do you remember the Leechmonger, Dirty Colossus etc.?
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>>719660187
>Leechmonger, Dirty Colossus etc.
The only arguably really bad bosses aside from maybe Dragon God? Also when you look at it from being able to fight Leechmonger right after Phalanx it sort of makes sense that he's kind of a pushover
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>>719660187
I do remember them.
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>>719658101
>Dark Souls
>unique boss gimmick
>can smack every boss with a sword and kill it
Ocarina always requires the dungeon item to defeat the boss. The sword comes secondary.
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>>719660187
I don't want skillchecks in circular arenas with checkpoints right in front of them anymore. I'm here for my knight game, not a ninja-cosplaying-as-a-knight game.
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>>719660605
Dragon God is good, though.
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>>719660843
I think he's alright but not exactly popular. Definitely far better than Bed of Chaos, at least sneaking and hiding behind pillars while smashing rubble in your path is far more intuitive than sweepy hole fire tree monster.
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>>719658101
Zoomer revisionist thread
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>>719660801
Literacy is in the sewer
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>>719661481
>iphone filename
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>kinda get tired of a couple of bosses by dark souls 3, etc (sieyfried, etc.)
>pirate elden ring a couple
>seems cool and get to first boss
>it has 3x more health then any boss before
>attack combos 3x longer then any other boss
>just stand back and attack or literally constantly roll
>uh whatever kinda literally (what i thought) "rollslop" and not literally but just "a lot of rolling"
>get to the main area and find out all the enemies are invisible unless really close and the game is unplayable
i called it rollslop before it became popular to say
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I like most of fromsoft games, but I beat ds3 almost twice and I literally have no memory of it, I just can’t fucking remember the fucking the game.
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>>719658101
>"I didn't come here for the action."
>Played an Action RPG where the devs entire intention was to make the game challenging
OP is another retarded Redditfag transplant, I see.
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I think my issue was the way the gimmick bosses were just kind of thrown in your lap at all once. you complete all the second arch stones that are the height of the game and then you immediately face a new string of bosses without preceding levels that are just kind of anti-climactic, goofy. it's not like they were purely offbeat epilougue bosses in presentation either, that's true of maiden astraea but not the other ones. just didn't work very well as a conclusion.
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ITT:
Retards listened to some gay eceleb opinion of the Souls series and ran with it as gospel.
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It's such a basic take even Fromsoftware is moving away from soulslikes.
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>>719662232
Yes yes everyone loves ecelebs like you
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>>719661896
I remember it having nice music..
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Does anybody have any real opinions here anymore
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>>719662054
Adventure.Game. Fantasy.RPG. KNIGHT.GAME.
Reddit despised me for saying this just as much.
Demon's Souls was my knight game. Dark Souls 1 and Dark Souls 2 were my knight game. Everything after, and I mean everything, is not. I've been abandoned for a decade.
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>>719662419
I had this opinion for a long time. It was my opinion for over 5 years.
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>>719662485
>Demon's Souls was my knight game
The one with shit armor and shield?
>Dark Souls 2
Lol
You should actively be cyberbullied
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>>719662657
Yeah. Demon's Souls. Rolling is only ever needed as a last resort in that game.
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>>719662735
Rolling is not needed in any of those games, shitter. But armor and shields sucked in Dark Souls 2 and Demon's Souls, and using them in Dark Souls is bland and boring
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2 is where the terrible design decisions that ruined 3 and Elden Ring were laid out
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>>719662657
For someone who has nothing better to do than argue you sure have some fucking impotent attempts
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>>719662978
Do you have anythung concrete or just vague allusions that make you feel good
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>>719662902
I didn't find it bland or boring.Sword and shield Knight gameplay, unblemished by action game nonsense, is exactly what I came to Dark Souls for in the first place. Like Zelda.
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>>719660801
lets forget that you dont know what a gimmick is, I literally JUST replayed that ootslop last week and every fucking single boss save for phantom ganon is complete and utter ass, and im embarassed that my 10 year old self thought that shit was cool.
The gimmicks dont even fucking work half the time, fucking morpha is so badly done that I had to question if I was even fighting the boss correctly. Id far rather dark souls or botw's approach than "hurr be sure to use your jank item"

At least windwaker has the decency to make the implementation not fucking suck utterly.
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>>719662485
git gud
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>>719664758
>beat O&S on my first try
>accidentally did it the hard way by killing fatty first
>"Wow anon, heres some gamer cred"
>finish 3 and say my favourite boss in the whole series was gael, my least favourite game was 2
>"Wow anon, fuck you casual, you are trash at the game and I hope you die, scumbag piece of shit underage retard who sucks at video games, go back to hello kitty island adventure"
What causes this? Did he actually just filter Das2niggers and they cope by saying "t-that game was shit anyway"?
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>>719664509
botw was an abysmal game. I want my hookshot back. I want horses and roads to be useful again.
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>>719660059
Yeah I don't know why people keep saying Souls has replaced Zelda. It has no fucking puzzles or dungeon items. It has nothing except bosses.
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I miss when Souls didn't try so hard. Just a simple fun easy game. Like Demon's Souls and Dark Souls one.
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>>719664509
>gimmicks dont even fucking work
What the fuck are you talking about, retard?
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>>719667514
Because there hasn't been a real Zelda game for a decade. I saw knight, I saw sword, and shield, I saw lack of fancy combos, and I immediately connected it with Zelda.
>>719667560
"Prepare to Die" is cancer. Dark Souls was never about difficulty to me. If I cared about difficulty, I would never use a shield.



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