Fuck it post old ass game memes NOW
>>719661025 >Me: *presses F5 to quicksave before talking to an NPC* >NPC: *sneezes* >Game: Everyone in the town now hates you, your dog is dead, and the moon has fallen Morrowind, baby. Peak immersion.
>>719661025https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvYZRskNV3w
>>719661025
https://youtu.be/O36f1p8QSaw>15 years ago
>>719662156Ill raise you one year.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yqflb4xU2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mHKHKR8x6A
>>719664907
>Open gmod and accomplish nothing for 2 hoursYup its gaming time
Riiiiiidge racerhttps://youtu.be/Aif8xAYYVqg?si=zYoPqfSDDUXtlh-Y
>>719665241https://youtu.be/0XR7LaJLLf8Take a look at this picture...
>>719665320
>>719661687post the full image nigger
and don't forget the sequel
>>719665439>mfw Keanu wound up playing Shadow
and the third episode
It really was just a better Internet
>>719665046heh
>>719665663everyone is so bitter and can't take a joke now
>>719665663Please spirit take me back. Take me back to the past when memes where a million variations of wojak and pepe. Take me back to when humor and creativity still existed. Take me away from this nightmare vision of the future!
>>719665663The lack of modern OC really makes me sad
>>719661025Awfully sad knowing how many thousands upon thousands of cool pics are forever lost to the void. I used to browse fansites for hours, and each one would usually have their own edits or jpgs.
>>719666213*weren't
>>719665663why is Jesus Christ wearing a Naruto headband?
Xbawks hueg
>>719666252Everyone's on their phone, where it's not conducive to making edits.
>>719666410The power of jesus and anime is unstoppable
>>719666410Because its funny
>>719666252Any attempt at OC was considered "reddit" and now most people are on phones which aren't built for making things.
17 year old me thought these /b/ rugpull stories were the funniest shit.This one's not vidya, outside of the pikachu image, but there was another post I had saved in the same genre that actually was a pokemon one. Can't find it through google, I had to dredge this from a 15 year old text message I sent to my buddy. If anyone has the pokemon one I'd love to see it.
Luv me box art editsSimple as
>>719665601only because they couldn't get gilbert gottfried
>>719666708>>719661025This is PINGASThis is PINGASThis is PINGASP-P-P-P puh puh puh puh
>>719661770>Next to Everything on the wheel being actual kinoRare instance of me not wanting to go back
>>719666738
https://youtu.be/KMU0tzLwhbEDEVELOPERS
>>719666891Where's the 1337 butt0n
>>719661784Now the post the one where he heals the bear and they are friends again.
>>719666252threads die before OC can be madetoo much spam nowadays
>>719666504
>>719667314what a cute girl
>>719667314NO I DONT WANNA PRETEND TO BE KONATA AGAIN
>>719666694>*captain jack sparrow theme plays*
>>719661025This old enough for you?
>>719667424Shut up and put on the wig
>>719666727This got me the biggest "oh fuck off" kind of laugh I've had in a long time. Great find.
>>719666252Everyone's afraid of being called "Cringe".
>>719665046Jej
>>719667618already posted this lol
>>719666252>phones aren't ideal for quick OC and phonefags are never invested enough to make any, since they just hop between threads when they're bored>cancerous wojackfags throw a tantrum whenever OC threads get made and shit them up>larping newfags think any edit thread is viral marketing and shit them up>retarded mods delete threads completely at random It's a hellish new world
>>719661025>this meme was made when i started beating off to trannies>i am now sucking and fucking tranny cock regularly
>>719665513>>719665581>>719665661How the FUCK am I just noticing all these years later they said Carl ON Duty not Carl OF Duty?
>>719667861tempted to do this but with my sega saturns.
>>719661025https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VQnmDWdV2YU
>>719667824
https://youtu.be/sJ2DxC0bPKc?si=tFILO3JKWvf-b2ll>Go into my favorites and sort by oldest videosIM GONNA DRY UP
>>719667667DOCTOR OCTOGONAPUS
>>719667921congratulations
>>719667885T-tubes?
>>719661025ok faggot
fuck I'm old
>>719668209
>>719665046cant unsee
>>719668332The Internet is a series of tubes!https://youtu.be/_cZC67wXUTs?si=SLj4MZp_1EkXF1iD
>>719668542I just lost the game
https://youtu.be/8AyVh1_vWYQ?si=Tpon3nhz9GJZROzSThis made me piss and shit and laugh
>>719665046lol
>>719666410it was the style at the time. believe it!
>>719668679BALLS BALLS BALLSGet off vent or ill have you bent
>>719668681>This video is age-restricted and only available on YouTube.
>>719668602kek
>>719665753
>>719664907LIKE THE ANCIENT HAWAIIANS USED TO SAYIT'S TIME FOR A DICKING
>>719666694https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQ_ZozZIio
>>719668765I don't believe it!
>>719666252>Mr Game & Cock>Falcock>General TsoMy sides
https://youtu.be/LzSWdj4izHM?si=LOVEm3F0KnNuR2va
youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI
i miss impact font taking up like 30% of the picture
>>719668126i'm not going to say the faux-hawk is the dumbest hairstyle ever, but there's something particularly offputting about it
https://youtu.be/iTYtH28esTg
>>719669160in any case, captain immy is a faggot.
>>719669165fuck you
>>719669056QWOP kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrD-uface8A
>>719669165>hating skub
>>719669036do you have the full comic?
https://youtu.be/vNm-t9eWSvA?si=o0tLbwZipVke6OBSOld vinesauce videos that would give his modern chat a heart attack
>>719669320I thought I did, but can't find the other 9. Someone else post it if they have it.
>>719669251
>>719669320true til this day because /v/ doesnt play videogames
>>719669383>people can't grow up from being edgy teenagers
>>719669278>liking skub
https://youtu.be/ykhbLhkMOfc?si=03vlHtgLkey-4jX1
>>719669278>>719669573>Shilling SKUB
>>719669551About to be exponentially true real soon considering all of the Onlyfans moms out there now.
>>719666252Would kill for some general tsos rn
>>719669538
>>719665046>>719669630kek
The only thing more cringe than early internet humour is current internet humour.
>>719669470I know it's on my hard drive somewhere but my dumb ass didn't name any of it.
>>719669723Stop posting this stupid wall, faggot.
>>719661025One of my oldest.
>>719669165
>>719669690old fag is old
>>719669698i'd rather order pizza
>>719669690I knew the mods were in on it all alonganyone else here play habbo during april fools?
>>719669750lol wut the fuck, I was just thinking about this meme today.
https://youtu.be/raLbY_ykK48?si=sAmx7Cw1e2PiuPGGTAKE ME BACK
>>719669723I dont get it...a wall? fuck off >>>/pol/
>>719669785actually lol'ed irli miss when this place wasn't afraid to be funhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ys6FZreXAI
>>719670078The chadest way to play Melee.
https://youtu.be/0tuzBiQyZRw?si=Ipc-sdfMT2BendDc
>>719669759ever wonder what the bottom of an avatar's shoe looks likeWABAM THERE IT IS
>>719670089a fine vintage
I AM THE GREATEST, HOHOhttps://youtu.be/tjQ69qkbmU4?si=_PiZqn4iLuRNzFjv
>>719670246The memes about that fucking game are so vindicating.Also>nokoHow long has it been since that was made a default feature?
>>719670537Okay, but I would unironically want a GTA game set in Eastern Europe.
>>719670482dont remember exactly but it was after captcha and luggagelad sperging about kimmo alm
>Open my liked videos on youtube>Shows me content from literal dead people like TotalBiscuit or Hellsing920It hurts a little...
>>719669723Man the PS2 did such great wall textures
>>719670274The more things change the more they stay the same.
>>719670690rip Kitty0706 o7 ;_;
czechem
>>719666987it's not kino you're just autistic and have bad taste
>>719670586reminder that t paine's (british freemason) list of complaints were so made up that the king had to ask franklin to come to london just to ask "wtf is this shit? did we do any of this? (they hadn't)"
>>719670690>>719670804
>>719668134Smash season is the closest we get to the good old days of japan time. Though it lost some of the magic once we got to the second fighter pass.
>>719668257funny how enough time has passed for this look to be cool again
LOL
https://youtu.be/QWITQC-hza0?si=DL_EUJWoe0QY7zOI I always wanted this character
This is from my vintage 2002 meme folder
>>719668791>Get off vent or ill have you bentNow that is a S tier classic https://youtu.be/FvL-WGcoBis?si=s_Ar8bIiqNnslJB8
I wonder where that girl is now.
>>719670690I think your pic was the first meme I ever actually saved from this site
>>719670664The early captcha shitposting was fun
>>719671131
>>719671131how cringe will 2025 humor look in 23 years?
>>719670892Only one of those things is true
>>719671260
>>719671182Probably dead honestly just like every stickam girl
>>719671272I actually have this gif saved unironically
>>719671374Exceedingly based vintage soul
>>719671260it wasall i typed was >NIGGERin its field every time until the captcha got updated
>>719671341>>719671343Based rememberers, I couldn't find the ansberry one though I'm certain I had it. There was also the several panel one with the robed monks riding a golf cart or something to assault an escaped prisoner.
>>719667751wow, cap-tan.
>>719671529miss that nigga
>>719671515
>>719671435gaben is fatFAT
>>719671604Anon delivers. Thanks man
>>719671638You're welcome <3
https://i.4cdn.org/v/1756855292646082.gifAFTER OVER 9000 YEARS IN DEVELOPMENT
https://youtu.be/dG_5RwIzq0s?si=gZZ_xF0J4G7nZ8XU
>>719666252There's plenty of modern OC. It either gets deleted, called reddit/cringe, or buried under the mountain of twitter screencap threads.
This used to be unlisted but i guess he changed his mind.https://youtu.be/GGWs8WYUp8c?si=UFRJuapqyNQxEaYx
>>719665105Usually how I play Gmod>download and open random map>Spawn NPC with follower mod enabled>Have loadout giving me weapons>Slowly explore said map and act like me and npc are anomalous search squadHell yeah I fucking love autism gaming
>>719666410ninja's can walk on water
>>719669532wasn't Vinny on his late twenties when he started?
>>719671435>Looking through this old folder also has pics of me and my prom date from 2005>Super cute girl, she looked so pretty that day, amazing dress and makeup>Basically friend-zoned myself and didn't make a move because I was a cowardFeels bad man.
>>719672094he was 20 I think
>Me 15 years ago>Haha what a weird comic>Me now>Id fuck any of them
no idea why I found this funny 20+ years ago
>>719669383this is the same guy from the >we /sp/ nigga vocaroo i think
>>719671824sometimes it mentally doesnt get registered as OC>bazz>yasugayetc
>>719670278:(
>>719670078>he still makes oc to this dayfucking maniac
>>719672205anon did you not fuck your prom date
>>719668486The birth of steam
>>719672689nope. we were "friends"
Man, remember cleverbot? Also found a few babbys in my folder, forgot how much I loved that stupid fucking image. Wonder when the last time I saw that one was. Still recall SNSD and babby plastered on /v/, probably was 15 years ago. Fuck me, I'm getting old.
>>719672205>Old pictures folder has tons of selfies of girls ive talked to on Skype and Steam>Didnt go any further with any of them>At least 2 of them have a kid now
>>719672780now there's a lifetime regret
>>719671182I remember hearing that she's a he now, not sure if that's still the case or not.
>>719668126The beginning of the end, huh?
>>719672781>cleverbot gaining sentience was bretty spoopy
>>719672868more like the end of the beginning desu
>>719666746aeiou
>>719672383it's sometimes too mean spirited I thinkthe Yasuke Tariq Nasheed posts were pretty funny however
>>719668834lmayo
>>719672714people don't know how bad steam was when it first started
>>719672692Literally me growing up when all my friends were black or asian. I could not find one white person who wanted to come over and play smash bros or halo.
>>719672218I had that image saved on my very first ipod touch which was capable of connecting to the internet
>>719672983you show zoomers this gif and it means nothing to them
>>719672868i mean, the shilling was off scalehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpZQ4PQJiLo
>>719672781
>>719673043>The official deadlock discord has this as an emojiYoshi is a funny guy
>>719661784>>719667237
>>719672816that's for sure. one of those things I still think about despite being married with a kid 20+ years on
>>719673113>official discordpeak faggotry
>>719672781>>719673078>CleverbotI'll do you one better, do you remember Bucket?
>>719673042and now we've come round full circle to the point where newfags get upset by traps again
>TF2 getting an MvM update in 2025>This video shows uphttps://youtu.be/tQN5uigswEU?si=8myB2IXRcwevrkC3Shibby is a faggot by the way but i miss Etalyx
my memes folder from 2002 has some very homophobic stuff
>>719672960>mean spiritedsimply the nature of bants. retard and nigger are terms of endearment at least, it used to be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th6PW5VwDFI
>>719673341f
>>719668956>>719668827If this meme began organically spreading today everyone would spam>muh e-celeb cancerAnd the threads would get deleted. Oldtroons are hypocrites.
>>719671435>pic so old it's written in old memeish and gaben was still youngJesus!
When I was in 8th grade me and my friends would just google "gaming memes" and spend the entirety of our study hall in the computer lab laughing at shit like this.Simpler times
>>719673517
>>719673391>bants.but it seems less like bants and more like genuine rage these days, which makes it less funny.
>>719673542
>>719673593*more
>>719673472I think you should stop inventing stupid hypotheticals to get mad at.
>>719673593the world is an increasingly hostile place so its a lot easier to get riled up>less funnyno anon it makes it even funnier
>>719673640i think rage is only funny when you have a calm to compare it to desuwhen everyone is frothing at the mouth with rage all the time it just becomes lame and gay
This is illegal in texas now....
>>719672632There were a jillion of these
>>719670403I got this one
>>719673917This made boomers cum their pants on a school night
>>719674093why did u save it as jpeg lol
Home...
>>719671260>>719671343>>719671515I have some of these
Minus8 has fallen....
POSTING B8 IN A NON STICKY NEAR SEPTEMBER!!!
>>719674403
>>719674403at least this new captcha isn't the google oneI don't miss having to spend 5 minutes pixel hunting for stop signs only to have to restart because someone thought a mailbox looked line one and I didn't click on it.
>>719674490
>>719674512those are the worst>>719674546
>>719674490You wouldn't happen to have the XZibit, "yo dawg we put X in your X, so you can X while you X" memes?
>>719674272
>>719671314LEOOOOONGO FUCKMY SISTER
>>719674617
>>719665046I'm slowNow i get it
>>719674639maybe, I'll look for it. it's all unorganized>>719674617
>>719674792
>>719661025>I almost killed a franchise!>With my fucking teaser!
>>719674773
I WILL GO WATCH OLD L4D VIDEOS NOW
>>719674876that's all the captchas I think
>>719674858>bullied so hard tameem had to change his self insert's facedonte was the gift that should have stopped giving at its inception
>>719665513Over a decade later and I just realize it says Carl on Duty and not Call of Duty.
>>719674639I don't think I have any xzibit. have this other classic /v/ meme
My deck has no pathetic cards kaiba
>>719675191NOT SO FAST YUGI BOY, I PLAY MIND HAXXORS
>>719674723to be fair they forgot the ring
>>719675243Pingas
>>719661025didn't know how good we had it back thenhttps://youtu.be/KDRAhiBtOrQ?si=kzIvg15d3GmmxKuI
>>719675392>Garry's Mod 9take me back
>>719665046hehehehehehe
>You will never go to a computer cafe again and eat copius amounts of sodium while playing warcraft
SHUTDOWNEVERYTHING
>>719675529>ywn ninja loot onyxia and escape with all that shit again
>>719675639>mfw I needed the wizard chest and ring
borp
>>719669383I remember when there was a comment on the Boss Nigger theme song by the Vinesauce Channel.
>>719675828>we will NEVER see another E3 Konami presentation ever, ever again
>>719675742how times have changed
>>719671272
>>719675917news was a fucking mistake and moot was a faggot for ever letting that shit go on.
>>719675828MOVE YOA FAT BODY FREERY!!!
>>719665046Haha GOATSE HAHA
>>719661025https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnksoN8iz3c
>>719675996moot was a faggot in damn near every way possible. but getting cucked in a honeypot op, that's remarkable
>>719675680
>>719676102lufthansa
>>719666746My roflcopter goes SOISOISOISOISOISOISOISOISOISOI
>>719676210>it's still going>it's still shit without caston
>>719676185Thanks doc
>>719673204god dammit
>>719676185danke herr doktor
legendary thread
>>719675828WANMIRRONTROOS
>>719676314954 4495
>>719676185ありがとう、医者ーさん
[USER WAS WIN FOR THIS POST]#fortune#noko
>>719674490That's another classic I lost and forgot. Are these all from your original folder?
>>719673242traps were always a gay thing, it was funny to see newfags fall for it the first time, that was the initial appeal of them, then you faggots started to unironically think they are girls, that isn't gay to fap to them, and started to annoy everyone with your faggotry.traps ARE gay, and you are a massive FAGGOT if you fap to that shit(on purpose)
>>719676802not sure what you mean by original folder, but I got all these years ago, from /b/ mostly
>>719676793Sage... Noko... my old friends...
>>719676858for me it's tricking newfags into watching texhnolyze (now they think it's deep art)
>>719674650oh yeah the ROCK PUNCHING SHITPOSTAN
>>719676926do they even work anymore?
>>719677112Sage does. Noko is automatic anyway, so technically yes?
>image limit reached>not a single Quentin shitpostSAD
>>719665506LOLClassic
>>719677207Oh I don't know, most of these images were well before Quentinposting. And he's a bigger faggot than Snacks ever was. And a larger faggot than Manly Tears, which is pretty easy to be...
>>719676858>(on purpose)kinda destroys your whole argument and youre too stupid to realize it
>>719675606IMA CLOSING MALAYSIA
>>719666681Holy shit that one goes way back
>>719673204this is just an "Indian Text Simulator"
>>719668038lmao
>>719677357if you didn't notice that is a trap, you got tricked, you felt complete disgust and shame afterwards, that's normal, you just fapped to a guy, kinda gay, still you are not gay.if you are actively looking for traps, to fap to, you are a faggot.
>>719670338Amazing
>>719677668candy ass
>>719677668interesting, so gay or not is about the choice, and less about the sexual attraction
>>7196759174chan was always racistnobody cares about these memes except for larping as an "oldfag"
>>719675917>woke shit on left>based memes on rightOh no....
>>719678232fun is just a buzzword/b/ was never goodQuentin was funnyvideo games are for children and /v/ should be used to make people care about more important things, like politics.
>>719678232It wasn't
>>719666252What bro? You don't like the industrial assembly line of Jaks?
Can I get a "I'm in ur base Killin ur dudes"And halo isn't afraid of anything or whatever the fuck that was.I'll throw in a shazbot
>>719678743image limit reachedmake another thread and I'll post some shit too
>>719678673You literally cannot say nigger without being racist. Racism is not a departure from health human thought, it is the base. Through self censorship one can demoralize themself into someone who isnt "racist"
>>719679749>You literally cannot say nigger without being racist.I can, you can hate every single race in existence and not be racist. Old 4chan mocked whoever showed any sign of weakness.
>>719679749>You literally cannot say nigger without being racist.saying nigger on 4chan was rarely ever srs bsns
>>719674512Those old captchas got removed because you only needed to get the control word right and could fill in anything for the scanned one.Naturally they got a massive influx of every word being 'nigger'.
>>719676282cute furryhe was friendly
>>719676747EIGHT SIX SEVEN FIVE THREE FOUR NINE
>>719680851YOU GOT THE WRONG NUMBER!
>>719674457Wut happened? Did he trans out or something? Or did he end up up like Nyanners when shit like Gamergate and Anita came around?
>>719676185gratias medicus
>>719665996literally one of my favorite pictures ever
>>719673542>FREE ONLINE GAM- Fuck, it still hurts to see knowing they walk it back after this
>>719666526Saw a fat guy on the train station with a Me Gusta shirt like a year ago
got a 25 year old meme here for yashttps://youtu.be/g49L6U-6CuE
>>719681168He had brain problems connected to hyper dick problems while in worst korea
>>719681168>>719682898Like full on cumming to bicycles and humping statues to cum brain-dick problems.
>>719675680Old pictures of real people that have lots of modern pictures make the reality of Time's cruelty even sharper. Even the shitty looking people end up worse off.
>>719679749Nigger is just a word you fag, it's all just dumb ape babble with no intrinsic meaning. Maybe before Babel was struck down and the tongue of Man sundered it words may have had true power, but now they don't. If people would just stop caring it would unironically be left in the past because fags would stop getting anally devastated about it and other fags would stop trying to get attention thru it.
>>719671310i love shit like this
>>719673917No it's not. As a texan only borderline realistic stuff is "banned". That and "hardcore drawn little girl pornography". People need to stop posting fake crap on here.
>>719683272camera quality has gotten too good I think. You can see every pore on an old guy from a distance, and if you want them to look bad, you show every gross pore on his face
>>719676020now i remember that i need to brainstorm the Quake II one now that Call of the Void is coming next week
>>719675917Nah it wasn't just "pol". The whole internet and "nersphere" died once chimps got on the web and places like twitter and instagram were the most popular sites. To true death of this culture was facebook
>>719683751 wait, you actually make these images? Doing the Lord's work anon
>>719670905George III was actually a pretty good monarch all things considered.
>>719683803Not i, the guy is at /vr/ and there is one retard sperging over the wads(Megaman and cutman+term's stuff obviously) on the newest version and keeps shitting the threads, plus since quake 2 remastered literally brought life back to Q2 and more, a guide is needed to teach morons how 2 play.
>>719661025stfu
>>719683475>the words lost their power>just ignore the involuntary emotional response evoked
>>719671272Anyone have the other one that was like this where it was world leaders/generals playing a RTS? I remember Patton joining in after all the characters left and driving into a tree.
>>719679857I still see recognition of races being unequal or different as racism
>>719676926I saw a post here that said sage is a punishable offence now(?)in all fields to check
>>719684325Get stronger faggot, toughen up
>>719684509who do you think are you talking to nigger? tell that to the world
>>719668126I think of this comic regularly.
>>719666565im on my desktop pc
>>719669097I like how you can tell exactly when this was made because of H4.5E
>>719684930it was literally the genesis of the normalfags infesting vidya in 2007, a literal "Digital Inclusion"
>>719684921>tell that to the worldG R ダブルE N LEAVESG R ダブルE N LEAVESIt's so easy Happy go luckyWe are the world We did itヒューヒューヒューヒュー オスオスオスオスやったやったやったやった 大学合格 社長就任葉っぱ一枚あれえばいい 生きているからLUCKYだやったやったやったやった 当選確実 日本代表やんなるぐらい健康だ Everybody say やったー!日本キューキュー (でも)あしたはワンダホーいじわるされても ふとん入れば グーグーグーグーパスパスパスパス(おはよー)やったやったやったやった 9時間睡眠 寝起きでジャンプどんないいことあるだろう 生きていたからLUCKYだやったやったやったやった 君が変われば 世界も変わる丸腰だから最強だ 真っ直ぐ立ったら 気持ちいー!お水飲んだらうめー!(やったー!)日に当たったらあったけー!(やったー!)腹から笑ったらおもしれー!(やったーやったー!)犬飼ってみたらかわいー!(やったー!)It's so easy Happy go luckyWe are the world We did itヒューヒューヒューヒュー オスオスオスオスすれ違いざま ほほえみくれた2度と会えなくったっていい 君が居たからLUCKYだ平成不況 政治不信 リセットさえすりゃ最高だ!みんな居るから楽しいー!やったやったやったやった 大学教授 ムービースター葉っぱ一枚なればいい みんな一緒だHAPPYだやったやったやったやった 息を吸える 息を吐けるやんなるぐらい健康だ Everybody say やったー!G R ダブルE N LEAVESG R ダブルE N LEAVESバイQ~!
>>719672654you fucking with me here or what?
>>719683783facebook nascar dads and banned redditors got addicted to /pol/ and it became a feedback loop of bringing off-site cancer here, creating cancer here which then spreads off-site to mature before coming back here again
remember halolz?
>>719678140well yeah being gay is a choice, not a natural state of being
>>719686291you don't choose sexual attraction
>>719666213>>719666096I wish we still lived in the times when the internet was used by nerds and not 3rd worlders and normalfags engaging with and churning out ragebait
>>719676661hi
>>719684325>involuntaryMaybe in niggers.
>>719684379>muh racismMeaningless word
>>719672264>tfw lived long enough to find GOOSH GOOSH hot
>>719670862Holy shit I remember this
