Got leaked.Turns out it's way better than nuPrey.Turns out Bethesda did reject their milestones in an attempt to acquire them.Bad timeline confirmed.
>>719672958
>>719672958Yeah Prey 2 would have been amazing, just like the other games they made after Prey, The Quiet Man, Rune II.....oh wait
Did one of the developers leak the final build after all this time? Small if true. The rest we already know, jews gonna jew.
I want to believe you but I'm afraid.
OP, you got a link the gameplay for people to care.https://youtu.be/aSNdZBLCvog?si=VfYsDjYRmS8scW9E
>>719673901>it actually looks funFuck. I hope zenimax eats a trillion nigger dicks.
>>719673901I miss Mass Effect
I'M GONNA BREAKI'M GONNA BREAK MYYYYYYYYYYY
>>719672958>lifeless point and click shooting and idling behind cover upon each reloadcancelled for a damn good reason.you must be living in the deepest fucking lows in your life to find something like this remotely enjoyable. all the fps campaigns of that decade are literal trash and the genre only works when there are other players to play against. grow a chin
>>719672958I tried to approach nuPrey with an open mind but God it's so soulless and sterile compared to the original, I couldn't do it.
>>719672958Of courseArkane's Prey isn't bad but it shouldn't have been called Prey
>>719674641>imsim fag confirming action filters him
>>719672958>>719673901It looks ok but I'm not seeing enough to convince it would have been an amazing game like some of you guys think
>>719674671I think the original prey had a pretty neat setting but I wouldn't call it anything other than a 7/10 game which is a shame. But I think the two biggest things that held it back was the death mechanic, while neat in theory it kind of made dying pointless since there's effectively no punishment for it. That and the final level was just a gigantic, boring slog that killed the fun since you spent 40 minutes straight killing the same, overpowered enemy over and over with the same late game gun because they just refused to give you ammo for anything else.
>>719674839Zoomzooms like to pretend they were around for the first Prey then act outraged that this middling game didn't release.
>>719672958I always imagined taking the concept and using it for a remake of MDK but formatted like nuHitman. Each stage is just a massive dynamic setpiece with a bunch of stories playing out and opportunities to take out the target, tons of gadgets/gimmicks/replay value.
>>719673901>>719674839looking back it seems pretty ambitious for a PS3/360 release, who knows maybe it would have worked. this looks not as finished as the demo they showed at Quakecon, but god its been like 15 years who knows if Im remembering correctly. >>719674776yeah i love nuPrey but it shoulda been called Neuroshock or something
Fun fact: Bethesda acquired the prey2 devs just so microsoft could fire them>Reformed as Roundhouse Studioshttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c72p5epzj2noWhat a cursed team
>>719672958It's been like 15 years why has no one tried making this game?Some dev out there must be aware of how popular it is.
>>719675491Necromunda Hired Gun seems close enough
>that snap to cover Time Crisis systemI remember when people thought that was fun
>>719675491DId you see the video? It looks mediocre as shitAll FPS games from that era seem cursed, it's like the industry forgot how to make them
>>719672958this looks like shit
>>719672958>Turns out it's way better than nuPrey.What video did you see? Certainly not >>719673901since that looks like shit
>>719673206You know Bethesda actively sabotaged Human Head?
>>719672958Looks like the Bethesda shill that always told me that Human Head literally made no video game and it was a scam will not enter this thread. He's too much of a coward to get in here. He's been calling me out for years in these threads and even accusing me of working for Human Head because i was disappointed about Prey 2's cancellation. I accused him of working for Bethesda as damage control because that's exactly what he was doing.
>>719673901Looks pretty average, honestly.
>>719673901Let's just hope the RoboCop guys are making a Judge Dredd game next, we will have the cyberpunk city and the mechanic to arrest criminals.
Prey 2017 is one of the best games ever made, so no matter how good Prey 2 footage looks I can't be miffed about that
>>719672958prey was great, doubt this trash would have been better
>>719672958Unsurprising considering the Arkane game was complete dogshit. I always knew this was going to be awesome and it sucks it didn't get finished.
>>719678295sauce?
>>719678342But it had emergent gameplay! Keep in mind to emerge means to come out.
Give me all your cyberpunk slop so I can slurp the fuck outta it.
>>719678225Robocop is the closest We've gotten to what Prey 2 was, but still not close enough. We just need a bounty hunter space version of it in a bladerunner style alien city.
>>719673206>they also made Redfallwhat the fuck happened to the team that made Prey?
>>719678342>I always knew this was going to be awesomeLook at the video first
>>719678537Human Head? They moved on.
>>719678342>Unsurprising considering the Arkane game was complete dogshit
>>719672958>Turns out Bethesda did reject their milestones in an attempt to acquire them.This has been known for a while. Hines and his niggitry killed the studio because Human Head didn't want to sell out. They then fucking completely lied about it not meeting "Bethesda quality standards" (LMAO) and made the completely unrelated Prey (2017) using the IP out of pure childish spite towards the studio.
>>719678295Nu Prey was shit and woke.At least they never made excuses like this for Tommy. And clearly never tried this kind of thing regarding the main character of 2.
>>719678382mylittlehugot
The Prey 2 vs Prey discourse is so fucking forced.
>>719678720some of the devs might be scum but the game was great
>>719678885Like thinking Prey 2017 is anything other than a turd.
>>719673901I HATE BETHESDA
Is the leak the entire game? Weren’t they close to completing it?
>>719679404it seems to just be the demo they showed an edited version of with less or no HUD. in the leak you see the whole level and an ugly temp HUD. I actually feel like what they showed off back in the day was a later version of the demo level. I don't think the leak is representative of what they had before being shut down.
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>>719679653>>719679686Where did the leak originate from anyway?
>>719672958Why did you have to remind me?..
>>719679750ex-Bethesda
The Marshall you play as sounded cool and all but I really wanted to continue Tommy’s story from his perspective.
>>719677269This. One can argue they also sabotaged Arkane Studios.>>719678295NuPrey was not even Prey, it was Typhon and Bethesda forced Arkane to change the name of the title.
>>719677959Well said anon. FUCK BETHESDA SHILLS
>>719679983>Bethesda forced Arkane to change the name of the title.No it was always going to be Prey, I have the pitch document.
>>719672958this is like a reopening a wound I forgot about:I fucking hate Bethesda n Pete Hines so fucking much dude
>>719680118post the link or the full thing, coward
>>719672958>>719673901I hope Microsoft fucks up so hard that Activation just gets hurt in the process.
>>719675056>Zoomzooms like to pretend they were around for the first PreyI was around for it to play deathmatch online. It was really fun because it implemented most of the main games mechanics into the actual maps/matches. Things like walking on walls, portals, flying around in alien shuttles and spirit walking. Fuck you, i liked it.
>>719678885it's just a bunch of trannies hating on prey 2017
>>719678634Hines is pure cancer>>719680118How do you reconcile that with this>Prey Director Says Arkane Was Forced to Use that Title: 'It’s Gross... Not What I Wanted to Do'Prey director Raphaël Colantonio has said developer Arkane Studios was forced to use the Prey name by Bethesda, despite his disagreement and feeling "gross" by using it.Speaking on AIAS Game Maker's Notebook podcast (and spotted by Kotaku), Colantonio said that using this name was disrespectful to 2006's Prey - which was a completely different game made by a completely different team and company."Calling Prey Prey, that was very very hurtful to me. I did not want to call this game Prey, and I had to say I wanted to anyway in front of journalists," Colantonio said. "There is a bit of the artistic, the creative side that is insulted when you tell this artist: 'You know your game? It's going to be called Prey.' And you go like, 'I don't think it should. I think it's a mistake'."Calling it Prey was also detrimental to the game's sales, Colantonio said, because fans of 2006's Prey - a first-person shooter about an ex-soldier being abducted by aliens - would protest Arkane's game and those who disliked the original wouldn't look twice at it."It was also a kick in the face to the original makers of Prey," he continued. "I wanted to apologize to them many, many times. I didn't really have a chance because I don't really know those people. It was never our intention to steal their IP and make it ours. It's gross and that's not what I wanted to do."Colantonio left Arkane not long after Prey was released in 2017, citing the name debacle and overall disagreements with management as one of the reasons for doing so. While Prey was received well by critics and players - IGN said it was great - Colantonio commented that its sales were poor and the franchise has been dormant since some DLC was released in 2018.
>>719680258Trannies love nu prey tho
Bethesda, as people, are garbage trashy humans with zero value. Conpany wise, eh, they make a little $, but doesnt make up for how shitty they are. In business and personel.Hope Prey 2 gets leaked in full.
>>719675056I would show you my blockbuster case of prey on the 360 but I won’t because ur gay
>>719680303Are you naive? People will do whatever it takes so long they look good on articles and social media. No one wants to be the villain in the spotlight.
soooooooowheres the files?
>>719680198https://files.catbox.moe/1bteyz.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/xwde9e.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/yeqer7.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/ouhok5.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/9kg121.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/er02if.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/6vdeln.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/hhyi7s.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/sn3awa.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/q7i4xr.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/ei30we.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/w3p054.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/e32hil.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/fp1d44.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/0rgagx.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/hh67oy.png
>>719680303>How do you reconcile that with thisIt's one thing to make statements it's another thing to act
yet another victim of pic related
>>719680482>https://files.catbox.moe/fp1d44.pngI didn't 100% believe this was real, but this forced kind of funny slide is 100% what some unfunny co-worker would do in a powerpoint slide, especially from a decade ago. Cheers man.
>>719673901already much better than nu-prey, that shit is garbage
>>719680482>Arkane turned out to be snakesI am vindicated all these fucking years. Every faggot that defended them should eat shit.
>>719672958>got leakedi thought this was leaked already?
>>719677269>You know Bethesda actively sabotaged Human Head?Bethesda didn't have anything to do with Quiet Man or Rune 2. Nor did they have anything to do with Blair Witch 2 or Dead Man's Hand. Human Head was just a shitty studio. The only half decent games they made were the first Rune and Prey and even those were mediocre at best. The only reason you think Prey 2 had any chance of being good is because you're an idiot who never learned not to trust bullshit E3 trailers so you genuinely believe everything you saw in the """gameplay""" trailer was real as opposed to a bunch of scripted set pieces designed to wow potential customers and investors that either wouldn't be in the final product or would be drastically changed.
>>719679983who cares, og prey was trash and so was the new one from looking at that video
>>719680394I'm not naive, naive would be to assume Bethesda didn't had malicious reasons behind Arkane's Prey. Bethesda and in specific did their worst to ruin Human Head Studios. I wouldn't be surprised if Arkane originally accepted the conditions, until things went south.Bethesda Game Studios is the result of an aggressive takeover, why not do it again.>>719680575Sure but interview of the director, does imply Bethesda was totally okay with crushing the OG product of Human Head Studios again, if the team of Arkane were okay with using the name or not, they were still part of the whole ordeal.
>>719680935>who cares,Obviously people here on 4chan or ex-Human Head Studios team members. Bethesda can suck a dick for all I care.
>>719680671it's what you have to do to convince higher ups to let you make a game they're all retards who probably eat that shit up
What's the purpose of this thread?Nupreyzoomie aka poorman's systemshock 2 zoomies will desperately shill their rancid dogshit till the end Any discussion with normalfags is purecancer at this point, just let'em die I hope globehomo start great war 3 in 10 years and end every gayshit with fire & ash
>>719681074>ESL rambling>the irony of the pic filename
>>719680774Qrd? I never followed any of this
>>719681138I don't care at this pointI wish you die horrible as possible
>>719680990>ex-Human Head Studios team members.Part of me believes it's genuinely ex-human Head Studios members are the ones making these threads. You'd have to be a complete fucking retard to think Prey 2 could have been any good considering how fucking awful Quiet Man and Rune 2 were. Or basically any other game Human Head made for that matter.
>>719673901I could see this working.Give us a big city, use something like A-Life to populate it with civilians, put in various places like warehouses and clubs and restaurants, little faction system so each bounty target has some friends and enemies. if I remember correctly Killian had a personal cloning system so you could even steal a page from Shadows of Mordor and have Bounties raise in power if they kill or evade you, a little San Andres faction war system so gang territories are shifting around as you work making power vacuums, a little reputation so you could align yourself with with one faction so they'll give you intel on where your target is or his strengths and weaknesses, could even get them to help you out for a cut, like have them distract the target's grunts or have them setup an ambush for you to chase the target into, hell, integrate the cops as a de facto faction that like you better if you do stuff quietly or do more captures than kills or maybe call in illegal drugs or weapons rather than taking them for yourself to sell, all this being mostly side content as there's a big syndicate that controls everyone else and like FarCry 5 as you disrupt their sub-operations, a big target steps out of the shadows.Fuck.
>>719681191You must either work for shithesda or Arkane in that case you need to redeem
>>719673901I prefer nu-prey
>>719681172Jealous?
>>719681287>>719681172
>>719681191>Part of me believes it's genuinely ex-human Head Studios membersAnd part of me believes we have real Bethesda shills here, because Prey 1 and Prey 2 threads are always treated with unusual hostility.Why Arkanefags are defending BGS? Who knows, because if I recall correctly BGS also gave them the boot.
>>719674343The new one coming up will be nigger ass like Andromeda.
>>719681074the point is to remind them that their game is shit, has always been shit and now a demo of an unreleased game is miles better
>>719681245Alright, tell me what you loved about Quiet Man and Rune 2, faggot. Tell me what made them master pieces. It's hilarious how every time someone brings up those two games you post mortem shills go completely quiet and try to deflect any mention of them. I mean you've got to love something about them if you still believe Prey 2 could have been good considering their track record after the first Prey.
>>719681191this, ass blasted shithead studio hacks need to get over it and move on, if they're so great they can make a new "Prey" that's hopefully better than the garbage demo posted above
>>719681074based
>>719680907>Bethesda didn't have anything to do with Quiet Man or Rune 2They did actually, refusing to pay human head put them in financial peril, wrecked the studio, caused talent to leave and eventually they had to rebuild from scraps. Terrible thing.In a sense, Bethesda made The Quiet Man and Rune 2. It's their handiwork, the state of Human Head. Hey after The Quiet Man and Rune 2 came out Bethesda acquired them finally. Hope it was worth it.
>>719673901No... don't open these old wounds... you will forever be the best game I never played, Prey 2...
>>719681558Sorry Saar I never played those games all I know is that prey is cool and I wanted a sequel. Keep slamming those shit infested fingers on your keyboard out of anger though bethshill.
>>719681575>ass blasted shithead studio hacks need to get over it and move onHow do you get over being ruined by Bethesda, all because you didn't want to be bought by them?If anything to this day that makes Human Head Studios real heroes, they didn't took any shit from BGS and prefered to go down with their ship, they were also one of the few studios that knew how to use and evolve Carmac's engine. Hines is a malicious retard and his failure of take over should remind us Bethesda were never the good guys.
>>719681371feels unnatural for sure . Wouldn't surprise me if they're here astroturfing to impede any interest in this leaks potential
>>719680940in specific Hines*
I know for a fact Bethesda patrols these boards. I remember when doom 16 leaked and were getting mods to dmca anyone that posted screenshots or the files.
>>719681371>Why Arkanefags are defending BGS?Because Arkane were apart of the original sabotage is my theory. Otherwise they'd have said something immediately when the initial backlash at e3 happened. They did an absolute turn around later when they saw it didn't go down well.
CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME A QRD ON WHAT HAPPENED? I NEVER FOLLOWED THE STORY.
>>719681759Yeah, if the conflict between Bethesda and Human Head went public, it could possibly damage their image/brand even further, and even better, it could open a pandora box of secrets about the studio and other questionable and evil practices. Human Head Studios and Prey 2 is a well know topic, but what about other studios of projects that were canned by BGS?Shit, we had Avellone mention Obsidian offered BGS spin-offs for TES and they refused.
Who’s the fuck that shitted on mick Gordon and why do I get the feeling that he was a key player in this?
>>719681309>>719681287
>>719681867>Because Arkane were apart of the original sabotage is my theory.I support this theory. If the pitch document posted in this thread is real, that would confirm Arkane knew about the scandal, decided to bargain with the devil, got their game approved and the moment things went wrong, they decided to shift the blame. >>719682018Marty Stratton is the one that tried to ruin Mick, fucker even went to reddit to spread his lies and redditors like always, they bought his lies and attacked Mick.
>>719681709>If anything to this day that makes Human Head Studios real heroeslmao heroes wake up you delusional faggot, everyone in business is there to jew each other and if those clowns made better games then they wouldn't be stuck begged Bethesda for shekels
>>719682259Good morning
https://vgleaks.com/prey-2-documents-leaked-concept-and-goals/>article from 2014 has that same document from above>same powerpoint pics, just not from a YouTube video
>>719681705I like how you're trying to sound smug while admitting to be one of those idiots who fall for the old "FROM THE MAKERS OF __________" scams
>>719682023
>>719682259>lmao heroes wake up you delusional faggotThat's the problem with your kind, you refuse to accept there's people with integrity out there.>if those clowns made better games then they wouldn't be stuck begged Bethesda for shekelsMaybe if one company born from an aggressive takeover and their clown Hines, decided to let them do their job, instead of trying to ruin them in every possible way, they would still make great games to this day.FUCK BETHESDA
>>719682486basedtotalzoomerdeath
>>719682594Jealous?
>>719681172good morning saar
>>719682483You mean like this?
>>719681930human head making prey2, bethesda buys human head, bethesda keeps moving the goalposts to and the devs over, bethesda says game isn't up to their "quality standards" (this is why you know bethesda was in the wrong about the entire situation, they have no quality standards) bethesda dissolves humanhead and spreads their ashes to the winds, bethesda takes prey ip and hands it to someone else. someone else makes prey2 in name only. There's more to it than that, and I might have put a little wrong there like idr if beth bought humanhead before the game started dev or if they were just publishing but then fucked everything over (I think that might have been it).theres youtube videos on it you can find.tl:dr bethesda are niggers
>>719682594
>>719682805YES EXACTLY like oh wait....
>>719682805KEKKKK
>>719675230>yeah i love nuPrey but it shoulda been called Neuroshock or somethingI hate Bioshock so much. It makes makes me wonder if the entire "immersive sim" genre is actually secretly dogshit.It is full of counterintuitive design choices. The game is design around being careful of ammo yet it leaves a lot lying around. The game encourages exploration but you can't really loot since not only the game lacks an inventory system but you can't even choose what get out of the drawers. Enemies respawn too. It is like the game wants you play a certain way but it is too chicken shit to actually punish you for playing a certain way. It is like that it is trying to a gameplay loop but fucked up all of incentives for it.
719682594He says, while posting low-effort trannyfrog garbage
trying to save hot gf from invading aliens>>>>IT WAS ALL A DREAM
>>719678720who gives a shit snowflake
>>719674839People like to pretend they ever gave a shit about Prey so they have something to whine about.
>>719683045I’ve been participating in every prey thread I could find since at least 2007
>>719682805Yeah, exactly. Glad you take pride in being as retarded as the fucktards who fell for the Starfield scam.
>>719683105You got smoked twice fa.m it’s okay to walk away
>>719674641/thread
>>719673901rip looked more fun than mass effect or others from that time
>>719680118>No it was always going to be Prey,Those motherfuckers actually used the game in the pitch document. Fuck Raphael Colantonio, That lying weasel sabotaged Prey 2
>>719682483It used to mean something. The problem these days is that the creative forces behind games aren't actually doing the development. They hire (either in house or sweatshopped) massive amounts of programmers and artists, and just communicate specifications to them, approving or denying submissions.In the old days, when someone like Cliffy B or Peter Molyneux was working on a game, it meant they were hands on with it, for better or for worse. They made their mark on the game, and you could tell they put effort into its release.Todd Howard is working on an Elder Scrolls game? Pranjesh Shardekhat made the horrific normal maps. Sukhdeep Juresh designed the room with windows that aren't on the exterior of the building.
>>719683357as if Todd was a staple of quality even in his 'prime' kek
>>719673901fuck man
>>719683430I never implied that, which is why I didn't include him with Cliffy B and Pete (who always had charming abominations and broken promises).
Original prey still had one of the coolest intros ever in video games. I enjoyed the game, was a cool fps during a time when I first started listening to art bell and reading up on ufo lore on abovetopsecret forums.
>>719683517I also first played it on the 360 along with saints row 1 and my brain melted from the graphics in both. I went from playing pic related on the ps2 to those games the very next week. I miss graphical leaps like that.
>>719683163Where did I get smoked? You admitted to being a retard blindly thinking Prey 2 would be good despite HHS's shitty track record then you admitted to being no different from Bethesdrone retards who were hyped about Starfield despite Bethesda's shitty track record. You just smoked yourself and you're too stupid to realize it.
>>719683953>>719683163
>>719684050Oops, guess I broke you so now you can't do anything except quote yourself. Sorry about that.
>>719683953damn you sound upset why don’t you relax pal?
>>719672958I don't understand why people keep bringing up Arkane's Prey when talking about Human Head's Prey. They have nothing to do with each other other than having the same name because Zenimax wanted to hold onto the trademark for some strange reason. Is it autism?
>>719682168>if the pitch document posted in this thread is real, that would confirm Arkane knew about the scandalWhat Human Head have never said publicly on the matter is whether this was an internal studio politics fight that involved them, they only said it was studio politics that involved Bethesda. That's just likely because there is still NDAs in place to talk about what happens behind closed doors. Arkane look 100% guilty after this. If Arkane had no intention of removing the original Prey story they'd never have even referenced it. This might be the biggest scandal to come out of these leaks but it won't be treated as such because of Colantonio's sycophants damage controlling alongside Bethesda. In other scenarios Arkane fags will criticize Bethesda for not greenlighting most of Colantonio's projects, but not in this case when Arkane sided with Bethesda.
>>719684157>y-you sound upsetI'm not the one making threads every other week crying about a game cancelled over a decade ago. I just like popping in to threads like this to make fun of retards who fall for bullshit scams.
Listen to this to have a laughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaQ8qanPqI0
>>719684504The pitch document got leaked in 2014, so it's almost certainly real. It has too much info 3 years prior to release.
>>719685026>The pitch document got leaked in 2014Then I'm confused. Why was Colantonio allowed to get away with his lies for so long unchallenged about not wanting to call it Prey? these lies have been repeated ad nauseam not only here, but also in the gaming media itself. And no one really had a good counter to it because almost no one seemed to have known that these existed. Even i somehow missed it despite thinking i had known the whole story, but my memory might just be getting more hazy as time has went on.
Why? Was it pure spite? Did someone have a personal vendetta against someone at Human Head? Did one of the Human Head staff piss off one of the Bethesda big-wigs?This game would have made Bethesda MONEY. I DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND.
>>719680774Well doneFuck Arkane and Bethesda
>>719685489It hurts not a single soul and puts many at ease.
>>719685490Look at how people associate good fallout with Obsidian and not Bethesda even though there is 0 talent at Obsidian now.They probably wanted that talent to stay at Bethesda, maybe Todd already had ideas to make Shartfield at the time and Prey devs would be a perfect fit.
>>719684694God I love Turok... Too bad the co-op reboot will be awful.
>>719673901Ehh it's not mindblowing. First person mass effect looks like.Prey (2017) is just fantastic. Would have liked more enemy variety though
Unironic Bethesda shills ITT
>>719673901This genuinely looks awful. Sad.
>>719672958>Turns out it's way better than nuPrey.>30FPS console-ified cover shooterlol no
>>719681140They lied and claimed they wanted it to be an unrelated IP called Typhon.
>>719674839because youre a stupid faggot who likes tranny shit like omori, signalis and tranny knight
>retards don't realize that they only called it Prey 2 initially because corpos love sequels and planned to change it later but weren't allowed toThe state of /v/...
>>719673901looks pretty uninspired I have to say
Bullshoot trailers and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race. This game was never going to be good.
4chan retards were shilling this game because it had pretty trailers and zero gameplay btw...........
>>719685490>Every game they made ranged from mediocre to awful>After Prey the studio goes on to make Quiet Man which was garbage>After Quiet Man they went on to make Rune 2 which was even worse and actually got slapped with a lawsuit by the publisher over itYou'd have to be a retard not to say "Hey this studio's a bad investment. Shut the fucking thing down". If your work is poor, you get shitcanned. That's the way the world works, retard-kun. The only reason you were hyped for it and still think it had any chance of being good is because you don't know how bad HHS was at making games and base all your expectations on a single game they made.Their one attempt at making an open world game was so absolutely broken on launch that it was completely unplayable and it took another publisher, developer, and a fucking lawsuit against them to get it to an even remotely playable state. What makes you think their open world space bounty hunter game would have turned out any different. "Because they made Prey"? That's the only reason you can come up with?
>>719682259>they wouldn't be stuck begged Bethesda for shekelsjesus christ I can smell the fucking shit on this post, how are Bethesjeets even real people
>>719686210They called it Prey 2 because you play as a character on the crashing airplane from the first game you actual pajeet retard
>The truly alien mind-bending bioship Sphere where nothing makes sense to the human mind and is a genuinely fascinating self-contained environment >Sequel would have just been a run-of-the-mill cyberpunk setting where aliens and humans mingle, aliens wear pants and speak and act like humans I dunno... I think I'm finally over it.
>>719686552Rude Betheskike.
>>719686406>zero gameplay btw.Well aside from the latest leaked demo>>719673901There consisted of at least 1 hour and 10 minutes in gameplay footage.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZh6vTxRDnw
>>719674839this shit looks next gen somehow and embarrasses nu devs, go fuck yourself
>OMFG LATEST LEAK YOU GUISE!This dogshit was already leaked like, 4-5 years ago already. You zoomers genuinely have the recall and attention span of a goldfish with the brain of a gnat.
>>719686867It's funny it's running on the Doom 3 engine.
>>719674641I live deep inside your mom's pussy you fag lmao
>>719672958this story is crazy. bethesda really killed a studio and stopped funding them because their game was so good they wanted to own them. absolutely insane
>>719686704I know it hurts but it's alright to admit I hit the nail on the head.
>>719678720this game is genuinely awful, i dont know why v likes it
>>719686648This, I liked the native american into an alien world where nothing makes sense, I don't care about cringy ass bounty hunter cyberslop
>>719686648Wasn't the Sphere destroyed at the end? They're trying to rebuild, but unlike the Imperial Empire, they can't just shit out another one, so they have to adapt and build their power back up.
>>719687060Who's THEY nigger?
Is prey 2006 worth playing?
>>719687120It has a unique setting and neat ideas and an interesting art direction but it's all in service of a 6-7/10 corridor FPS.I love it but YOU probably won't "get it"
>>719687120It's the best action game on the Doom 3 engine. Maybe Skin Deep is good, I haven't played it yet.
>>719687118The Keepers. Ancient aliens who seed life on plants to harvest them to amass power. The cyberpunk city is mostly a melting pot of alien societies forced together by the destruction of the Sphere, but The Regime, the successor of The Keepers is trying to rebuild their power so they can get back to doing the Goa'uld thing with a big ball.
>>719687120Yes it's got lots of neat ideas and was ahead of the curve on some stuff like the portals gameplay and has a decent story/setting.Shame the sequel never got made cause the twists and turns it was going to take sounded really fun although I don't think they'd have been able to be as inventive as they were in the original because it would have been hub world based where as Prey 2006 is linear but has loads of crazy shit like portals, walking on wall/ceilings and becoming really big and small.It's uniroincally a better fucking Duke Nukem Forever than Duke Nukem Forever
>>719681709>use and evolve Carmac's engineBased post. This faggot could code, but he wouldn't be able to come up with a good game design concept to save his fucking life. Hence why all id games were shallow as shit.
>>719687323>The keepersThey're mere passengers. They created it and maintain it but have absolutely no control over it in any tangible sense beyond keeping it fed and running.Somebody didn't pay attention.
>>719687035Pretending to like it because of Imm Sim philosophy rather than whether it's actually a good game. I'd be less harsh towards it if Arkane had acted less shitty about how they went about the development. If you're ever in the scenario when you're going to trample all over another studios work then you should walk away rather than doing a deal with the devil.
>>719681552TRVKE>>719687120Yes. It's a technical and visual marvel. No other game could do the same crazy gimmicks as this one did.
>>719681709Usually not a massive Bethesda publisher hater but the Prey 2 debacle is like a classic case of a bigger company just being absolute scumbags to put the squeeze on a smaller one Malicious cunts cut off the oxygen to the studio financially, cancelled the game and basically blew Human Heads legs off as a parting gift to the company It's a miracle they managed to stumble on up until 2019 before closing down.
>>719676351>it's like the industry forgot how to make themIt's because they were making them all with console in mind. The early FPS console games were still made like the PC versions if that makes any sense. They were missing a lot of features something like Halo had which made playing on controller extremely easy, like bullet magnetism and shit. Once the industry started making FPS games meant to be played on a controller it was over.
>>719687630Console FPS design is very different from PC FPS design, and is just as notable.
Here's some more videos. Nothing too crazy.>openinghttps://youtu.be/v5vbwq7X3G8?si=s5H_FIgb9ckoukcY>level flythroughhttps://youtu.be/bDwfoEv20iE?si=BSsX_uhU2v6jRCDn>a little more combathttps://youtu.be/9J7OIifeZ-s?si=ItGpwJhX6KMvry0r>unfinished demo that showcases bounty chasinghttps://youtu.be/uoYaYVPY5WA?si=1ui44wYoII31fBdh
>>719673901A few questions:Im an oldfag, I remember playing an fps called Prey a year or two after Doom 3, it had a ' native american as the lead protagonist and it was a cool game. Now, is this leak a sequel to that game or a sequel to the prey game they put out a few years ago that I know nothing about? Is the leak complete, as in, can its story mode be played completely? If so, can someone please provide a link? Thank you
>>719678720it's really sad what anita did to arkane. They were on a high from Dishonored 1 which had cool characters and cool story, then Anita visited and everything after that was woke shit. It's only a matter of time before the other half of Arkane all get fired
>>719687120Not really. Only the first level or two were actually good, mainly because they made good use of the gravity and portal mechanics. Everything after that is a snooze fest. For the most part the gravity mechanics are just used to pad out the game, like having you walk along a gravity pad path on a wall or ceiling to go over a gap or forcefield to flip a switch. Portals quickly just become glorified Doom teleport pads (aside from one portal maze towards the game which was just fucking awful). Aside from their designs, the weapons are boring as shit in terms of functionality. The biomechanical rifle? It's just a regular assault rifle with a scope. It might as well be something like a scoped M16. Knock off cyberdemon's arm? It's just a less accurate assault rifle with a grenade launcher. It might as well just be an AK-47 with a grenade launcher. Acid gun? It's just a plain old shotgun. Doesn't even have any cool effects to give the impression you're shooting enemies with acid. Also there's no consequences for dying. If you run out of health you just get teleported to a shooting gallery minigame where you can shoot some enemies with your bow to respawn with a bit of extra health then respawn a few rooms back. Enemies don't respawn when you die or anything so all dying means is trekking through a few empty areas you already cleared until you get back to the point where you died.Basically the first two levels feel like tech demos that were designed to wow investors and shareholders and maybe to promote in trailers for the game and then everything afterward was just purely an afterthought.
>>719673901Looked promising.>>719682908>It makes makes me wonder if the entire "immersive sim" genre is actually secretly dogshit.Protip: "immersive sim" isn't a genre, it's just a name used by pretentious faggots for feeling special by playing certain types of games. Most of the games retards categorize it in aren't similar at all.
I will never never ever shit on Prey 2 bros because I too, know the pain of loss. Of unrequited love.Stay strong lads.
>>719686173I find it amusing how you didn't get a single game I liked right
>>719682812The timeline is partially correct but you're forgot to add that Zenimax never owned Human Head. The entire reason why things soured is that Zenimax began attempting a hostile takeover during development, which is what happened to Arkane as well. Milestone payments were withheld in the middle of production of both Dishonored and Prey 2 to convince both studios to accept the offer. Arkane accepted the deal but HH continued resisting until Zenimax refused any additional funding unless they agreed to the buyout.
>>719687967>Starcraft GhostGah, why'd you have to remind me of this? We truly diverged into worst Mandela timeline.
Was anyone who worked on the Turok games involved with the development of Prey? It feels more like a fitting installment to Turok than either Turok 2008 or Evolution ever could have hoped of being.
>>719688248No, they just have Indian stuff in there.
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There are legitimate Bethesda personnel ITT
>>719688563No wonder. These niggers have so much money from normies it's no problem for them to spend it on 4chan bots.
I've still got my box/case copy of Skyrim with a Prey 2 advertisement on the inside of it and whenever I've opened the case it becomes a moment of soul crushing despair. Happened a few months ago. Fuck this gay earth.Maybe this justifies piracy of Bethesda games.
>>719688717But WHY? Why spend it on demoralizing and discrediting people who are lamenting a game that was canceled eleven years ago? What's the point?
>>719672958>Bad timeline confirmedwhere did it all go wrong? was it bethesda? can we blame steve jobs for birthing phonetoddlers? it is boomers fault? it is EA?
Prey was great. Really mindbending for the time.Replayed it not too long ago and it holds up.If you liked Prey you might like Hard Reset:https://youtu.be/O0jz5urWLbU
>>719687630>HaloAnd this is why I will always look down on that franchise, glad the Steam Deck exist to help correct a lot of the damage that game did to the FPS genre.
>>719681074>It's pacover
Nu-Prey sucks.
There’s a link being passed around in the Beth discord to this thread. Fuck you Sean :^).
>>719678720Yeah, the constant bothering with the homo background characters was quite bothersome
>>719689470>what if we took our hard sci-fi setting and filled it with incredibly mundane lesbian notes and reddit d&d sessions
Prey 2017 was alright until I came across the pseudo-D'n D fag subplot side mission.
>>719672958nuPrey mogs it and Fallout 4 is based
>Enter the portal anon. It’s an alternate universe where games aren’t gay, prey 2 released and you get 5 gfs.
>>719689670Make it one loyal ride or die gf whom I both love and genuinely who genuinely loves me in return and I'm in.
>>719688987>those Metroid Prime soundsLoving it already
>>719689658>nuPrey mogs itNuPreys setting was generic. I can't think of many games that have a direction similar to Prey2 and that's what annoys me the most. The closest that comes to mind is this upcoming game called Exekilller, except no aliens. So it's only half of what made Prey 2 look appealing. But is kind of Cowboy Bebop in the same sense. I think Killian Samuels was closer to Deckard in character or something. It's the only game i have to settle for in a no Prey2 reality.
Goldeneye, perfect dark and turok contributed to consolizing the fps genre too, halo isn't the only one.
>>719680258I don't even like Prey 2017, but it's unfair to hate on it for this situation, given it wasn't even intended to be called Prey in the first place.
>>719673901looks like it could have been good shame zenimax are a bunch of jews
>>719681074>Nupreyzoomie aka poorman's systemshock 2 zoomies will desperately shill their rancid dogshit till the endyou mean like how originalpreyfags act anyone gave a fuck about your mediocre boomerslop?
>>719681074Prey is better than System Slop 2 in literally every way
>>719672958nu prey is actually great the fuck are you saying
>>719688020They fucked up the devs of Cthulhu Dark Corner of the Earth in a similar fashion. They were working on new lovecraftian games before beth pulled the plug.
>>719674641If you haven't transitioned yet you really should. You're so filled with estrogen it's GUARANTEED you'd pass.
>>719690386>given it wasn't even intended to be called Prey in the first place.That is a lie.>>719680118>>719680482Stop defending Arkane for this clear work of sabotage in collaboration with Bethesda.
>>719690940weird because unlike your tranny ass i didnt get filtered by doom eternal and beat it on ultra nightmare like a breeze
>>719691005This. The people at Arkane knew exactly what was going on. They tried to make HHS IP their IP. The moment things went wrong, they decided to shift the blame.
Can you play this for yourself right now? Do you need a modded 360 or can you play it on PC or something?
ngl ive never seen anyone ever mention about the original Prey outside of these threads.
>>719681245>>719681371Never forget that there are also mentally ill that will pretend to have any opinion that might stir shit because they are this desperate for any attention. They are not that good at pretending to have opinions to be impossible to tell them apart. Shills are usually more clueless and, for example, those working for TCR just admit to shilling now. Remember that if you see a shill IRL and he's badly injured or something like that you should laugh and move on.
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>>719687718That fuckin snake Harvey Smith just went and killed the entire studio with that shit. Probably calculated how much more DEI points he needed to force a buyout and went all in.You listen to Dishonored 2 developer talks and they're all annoyed that they had to scramble at the last moment to fit Emily as the protagonist
>>719673901it reminds me of Doom 3 more than anything desu,i like Doom 3, but i'm not sure if that's a compliment.
>>719673901this is what a real cyberpunk setting looks like
>>719691536harvey's been fucking up immersive sims since invisible war, he should retire already
>>719683306>Combat is physicalCouldve been kino
>>719691708He seems to be incredibly adept at maneuvering through corporate bullshit, so that's why he gets to take part in projects, most likely a good mediator, but the second he gets more ground it just goes to shit. Really upsetting seeing him praised why the real talent gets pushed out
>>719678720Prey 2017 is proof that System Shock 2 would've been constantly shit on if it was a modern release because Prey is a very solid immersive sim. My only problems with it were the enemy variety (not a whole lot of enemies, but to be fair a lot of games don't have a wide variety) and that some upgrades should've been suit upgrades instead of skill upgrades like inventory size. It was also the last great Arkane release because Colantonio left (he went on to make Weird West and he's working on an immersive sim now) and Arkane proceeded to make Deathloop and Redfall afterwards. Redfall was supposed to be live service slop and supposedly Arkane volunteered for it when Zenimax made a call for one of the companies under them to make it but the development was so bad that a lot of employees were replaced because they had burnout and then Microsoft shut the part of the studio that worked on Redfall. What the fuck is Microsoft thinking, they're giving golden parachutes to the executives that ruined games and then proceed to shut down the studios they just acquired after a bad game release or two.
wait...Human Head made fucking REDFALL?!?!
>>719687697This was the projected sequel to 206's Prey, the one where you play as the Native American guy getting thrown into a strange alien worldship. Different main character in Prey 2, but Tommy [Native American guy from the first game] was gonna show up at some point. Seems like just this demo is available.
>>719691152>The moment things went wrong, they decided to shift the blameI reckon that's why Colantonio basically told Bethesda to kick rocks and left before it ruined his image entirely, probably not entirely being forced out regarding the game selling like shit. Because he wasn't expecting it all to go down like that. Because after the reaction at E3 with Pete Hines getting visibly furious on video with the audience in reaction boycotting the decision in the chat and on social media he couldn't handle the pressure knowing he had been caught for being a scumbag.
>>719687697I think that's Turok
>>719691234>Can you play Prey 2?No, dipshit.
>>719691953No, Human Head made The Quiet Man.
>>719692343it's strange, ive watched at least 3 videos about it and they all gave the combat barely a passing mention between calling the story utter trash.
Why do retards here keep bringing up human head games post prey 2 cancellation as if it’s some “gotcha” statement? Nearly every talented person that made up that studio was long gone way before garbage like Rune 2, quiet man, etc. released under full Bethesda ownership. It’s human head in name only and has nothing to do with the team that was developing prey 2.
>>719687697It's the originally planned sequel to the Prey you played a little bit after Doom 3 came out. 2017 Prey isn't even remotely related to either of those games.Bethesda just used the title "Prey" for IP recognition hijacking to give potential buyers false hope. What we're talking about ITT is the canned sequel to the original 2006 Prey that you played.
>>719692481where's the Prey 2 team now then?
>>719692598absorbed into ZeniMax Online Studios to make Elder Scroll Online slop.
>>719673901this looks so fucking good
>>719692846It looks horrible. You're legitimately retarded.
>>719692935it looks amazing
>>719692935sup Bethesda dev, having fun working on Starfield?
>>719692130>was gonna show up at some pointYes it's still unclear of where and when their paths crossed in the game world. But there's a screenshot of Tommy in it. At least i don't know if I've seen the story board.
>>719690736>They were working on new lovecraftian games before beth pulled the plugCall of Cthulu: Destiny's End. A game I was as hyped as the people in this thread are about Prey 2, except I'm not deranged enough to blame the devs of Prey (2017)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsVqsvzZYiY
Only remotely interesting thread currently active on this dogshit faggotassed despotic shithole board.
>>719693380For some reason every lovecraftian game either gets fucked over or is just bad.Only exception ive seen has been the Forgive Me Father games.
>>719687684I really wish a build will leak. I've been waiting for this day for so long. It's become more of a curiosity than original Duke Nukem Forever build ever was for me. Is there something available that i can play and install on my computer? the suspense is still killing me. I want to see what never was.
>>719693595>I really wish a build will leakNever going to happen. The best you can hope for is a Starcraft Ghost situation where someone somewhere leaks aspects of available build gameplay footage to YouTube which you literally just got.This shit is old as fuck. I'm not even sure it's compatible with a usable "build" being leaked to the public to fuck around with. Probably eternally stuck on some bit-rotting master disc.
>>719672958Would have been great, but Prey 2017 was also great.The Robocop game is as close as we're gonna get I feel
>>719691904>NuPrey>Playing anything like System Shock 2Kill yourself you pretentious wannabe poseur fucking faggot.
>>719693775Robocop? too far off for a credible comparison and experience. Exekiller fits the bill closer so hopefully that one actually turns out good.
>>719673901Honestly, it only looks okay at best, it's a good setting at least, but the gameplay looks surprisingly amateurish
>>719694295>Exekiller This looks a game generated by AI algorithm, looks awful.
>>719693380Interesting 2 player pseudo coop, haven't seen this vid before. I guess the game was influenced by RE4's success.
Any of you heard the Tommy audio logs?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGPOjDKvgLAIt's goddamn heartbreaking knowing how much of this game did actually exist when Bethesda damage control basically implied it was vaporware.
>>719694363I mean setting wise, what i want to see is an actual space bounty hunter game that takes place on another planet. Robocop is not the same thing and not even close to what it's supposed to be.
>>719673901Nice aesthetic, completely mid gameplay
I'd read a book about the debacle behind this game.
>>719694495Is this placeholder audio? The main character sounds very generic.
>>719694451I believe the devs specifically namedropped RE4 as an inspiration and wanted to make the game action-horror oriented at first and then steadily increasing the horror until all of the player's bravado disappeared, with the characters becoming more and more traumatised by the experience. Kinda wish I had a few dozen millions to spare because the idea seems brilliant and the setting would fit it like a glove
>>719693890I played System Shock 1 (the enhanced edition with mouse control), System Shock 2 and the remastered System Shock 1.You're right. It plays better than System Shock 2.
>Open world Doomed from the start.
>>719694875I should post all the other audio logs for the sake as being as thorough as possible in regards to how people have shown documentation of this game actually existing. So here's the others in case you never bothered to seek this out in the past. Since bits and pieces of the game have leaked out online in the past couple of years:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPaWe-oAftEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXk1cAOwEykhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI95Qv8m1DAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKuF0-xHTgQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijiFljxDggMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrpVEaP34E0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkVPSMygJUEI don't think it's placeholder. But games back then weren't really hiring expensive voice actors. That wasn't all that common.
And this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL4svOBHGf4
>>719673901Amazing how it's a better space game than sarrfield
>>719687734I played it like four years ago and you summed it up.I started to audibly groan when every single fucking time you walk on the gravity paths, the game teleports in enemies. Every single time.It's comedy.And the final quarter they just gave up trying to make the game interesting.Everyone LOVES to suck it off because of its strong beginning and ambitious premise but its very mediocre.The sequel looks that way as well.
>>719673901Holy fucking shit, bethesda deserves to get nuked 76 times for cancelling Prey 2
now we just need a leak of the bioshock infinite e3 pre downgrade demos.
>>719673901Reminds me of E.Y.E. Would've been dope to get this game instead of shitfield, truly a cursed timeline
>>719689670I'm stealing this.
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>>719673072So glad he's burning in hell, where he belongs.
>>719678225They won't because Rebellion wants to keep all of their properties in-house.
>>719673901>follow the yellow objective marker>use your prey 2 dude vision to highlight enemies through walls>shoot the red glowing enemies as they pop their head from behind chest high wallsIf this was a trailer at E3 in between 20 other identical shooters you faggots would be shitting on it hard
>>719674671It has nothing to do with the original they just reused the name for a new game. It is funny the best thing about both games is their opening sequences but I still think nuPrey was alright overall.
>>719681623They did the same to Arkane leading them to be bought out by Bethesda. They wanted to buy Human Head but their studio head told them to fuck off and rather get in financial trouble then be acquired by Beth.
>>719680671the fuck is that in bottom right
>>719673072>stole the company out from the original creator via hostile takeover>uses the same tactics when swallowing up smaller fishLike pottery
>>719673901>No Open World>Human Scale environment>Open ended choices depending on your actions>Interrogation and or send to client after capture. >Can kill after you capture as well.>Better world than Cyberpunk 2077This is the definition of a WRPG that we should have more of in the market. Not generic stuff like we have been getting for the past decade.
>>719673901Skyrim 2 flopping on it's face would be considered a forward payment towards their collective karmic debt for canceling this.
>>719697235>No open world The archived web page for the game literally calls it "open world" dumbass.
>>719673901I would archive this vid for future posterity sake before the resident spooks start phoning home to Todd and co.
>>719697318Back then Open Worlds were smaller and human scale. Today they are just big and huge for a dick measuring contest with no interesting content or meaningful story or interactivity.
>>719697235It was supposed to be open world. But it was probably the less shittier version of them back then. As in the environments were much smaller and had some meaning and purpose to them. Open World only gets truly shit when you start reaching for the stars about how big the maps are going to be. If most people had settled on smaller worlds I'd say we'd have less shitty design in general today, it would remove the need for padding out the experience. Hub world/zones will always be the top tier of design, but open world can be fine if it has a smaller scope.
>>719698224I am the anon and I agree completely. I do not want anyone to think I am going all out against Open Worlds and saying it's all bad. I even praise Assassins Creed 2, 3, Brotherhood huge time for the fact it was Open World but it was Human Scale instead of big like today's open worlds. I feel like it's just everyone adding unnecessary padding by making worlds bigger without adding anything meaningful and it becomes very empty and desolate like you mentioned. I think it just comes down to using the Open World efficiently rather than spreading it out and everywhere.
>>719698396Also I should mention Xenoblade Chronicles series as a good example of current great Open Worlds that actually do this perfectly and would highly recommend them to everyone. It also has excellent gameplay and balance to it.
>>719673901Looks like a fun cover shooter in early development as a vertical slice. There's a lot to like here, looking through walls to find the best course of attack, a glider to traverse quickly from high places, meat shield hostages, this would've been a decent game, although I think bounty hunting would get a little old after the 50th time the guy you were looking for manages to run off to another room while he's immune to bullets to set up the next set piece.
>>719680482Absolutely fucking based. I always knew they were FULL OF SHIT.
>>719691749They were obviously trying to copy Half-Life 2, only 10 years late. What really gets me is they had 2 fucking melee weapons in the pitch, and they didn't even manage to put 2 in the full game.
>>719673901>the regime is called RegimeWhat a creative masterpiece.
>>719672958Any chance for the build to be released just like DNF 2001 and Dead Island 2 2015 version?
>>719698658Arklame's fans have been shit talking the game every time it's mentioned and telling us to move on. Of course it was all premeditated. They even accused us of fake outrage back at the time in the E3 threads. I was in those threads, i remember it.
>>719699096It's amazing they even have fans, they're still here in this thread claiming that fucking Dishonored was anything but a piece of dogshit because they can't even claim anyone liked Prey when they're outnumbered. They should really just go back to shilling Arx.
>>719673901The good:>the map looks interesting and interconnected>parkour looks nice>reminds me of Nar Shaddaa from Jedi Knight and KotOR 2The bad:>combat looks very bad>it's a first person cover shooter with convenient boxes conspicuously placed in every arena>so you slide in cover and ADS, it looks stupid>Bounty Hunter Vision™ highlights every enemy and target, even through walls>"target is fleeing" yeah nah, it flees to the next combat room and waits for youOverall, I'm grade Neuro Shock was made instead, even if I feel bad for the devs who worked on it.
>>719687684>Fly throughMan that was so cool. I feel sad because I can tell it's full of life and definitely would be fun to travel in and interact with everyone.
Anyone looking for this kind of era of spacejank should try out The Precursors, I barely ever see anyone talk about it.
>>719699424>Slavslop Fuck off.
>>719699415I hate how all the art assets remind me of that Prey/Quake 4 era of grimy industrial that no longer fucking exists, now we just get applefag "space" design with blank walls everywhere that looks like a fucking test map.
>>719699470Agreed, I think there is something to be said about Steampunk or even deep underground areas that actually feel like a lost colony. Today everything feels so generic and safe that there is not many options for people like ourselves. I do wish the devs would make a game like this again even if it is smaller scale and it's 8-16 hours long.
>>719678280notPrey is fucking dogshit
>>719678720this, boring woke crafting trash
>>719699594In the modern hellscape, nobody will fund these kinds of projects. Why risk 50 million on an enthusiastic spiritual sequel to a cult classic when you can spend 500 million on GaaS slop and maybe make 10x your money!The whole middle of the market has been completely eroded, now you either get 3 man teams in someone's basement, or 80 million jeets working on a single asset each of some behemoth of a game nobody wants to play.
>>719699696Unfortunately it would take being an Indie Publisher or even starting from the ground up that way and making good games all over again.
>>719683028brown
>>719681074Unfathomably Based/thread
>>719695062You're a mouthbreathing subhuman retard, the other guy is right.NuPrey loses everything that made the "imsim" genre fun. The writing is atrocious, so there's no reason to play. The game showers you in loot on the hardest difficulty, so there's no reason to explore. The alternative paths are all "what flavor of shit do you want in your icecream?" level, they all go to the same place and there is not a single point of interest in the whole game.Boring enemy design, boring weapons, they even managed to make the fucking traversal a chore with the awful glue gun, they might as well have just given you spiderman web slinging abilities or let you invert gravity to walk on the roof in every area. Oh, wait, those would've been fun.
>>719672958IT LEAKED?!??!?!?!?!? Please, link it right now!
>You're a mouthbreathing subhuman retard, the other guy is right.>NuPrey loses everything that made the "imsim" genre fun. The writing is atrocious, so there's no reason to play. The game showers you in loot on the hardest difficulty, so there's no reason to explore. The alternative paths are all "what flavor of shit do you want in your icecream?" level, they all go to the same place and there is not a single point of interest in the whole game.>Boring enemy design, boring weapons, they even managed to make the fucking traversal a chore with the awful glue gun, they might as well have just given you spiderman web slinging abilities or let you invert gravity to walk on the roof in every area. Oh, wait, those would've been fun
>>719699392>Overall, I'm grade Neuro Shock was made insteadJust so you know that there was not any of this preferred name bullshit or forced name change thing they lied about, nor were they the victims of Bethesda. But the perpetrators and collaborators. If they really wanted the name to be Neuroshock then it would have reflected that in the actual process. It's some imaginary name Colantonio said the game was going to be because he was telling lies, it did not correspond to the reality on paper part. Project Danielle was another name for intentional sabotage of Tommy Prey. As evidenced in their pitch. All that matters is the pitch, irrelevant lies on anything else. Since in this very same pitch they showed that it was supposedly System Shock.
>>719672958>>719673901>>719674119Looks extremely generic no wonder it got canned
>>719699912Just scroll down a few posts. It's only footage of a console beta build, I doubt we'll ever get a buildable version.
>>719672958with AI we will son rebuild him
>>719699985No, it would've been a masterpiece.
>>719699997Just found it. It's pretty sick that we finally have actual gameplay footage. Hopefully another miracle happens and a build drops.
>>719699985you should read the OP why it got canned the info is directly from the people who had worked on it
>>719700030Yea anon I'm sure the another first person shooter with nothing to write home about would've been a "masterpiece"
>>719699975Morally dubious, but the end result is more interesting to me than first person cover shooting with regenerating health.
>>719700131would've better than nuprey though
>>719700131At absolute minimum, it still would've been better than NuPrey, an attempt to make a series about an alien abduction into an awful SS2 clone about gay asians in space.
>>719673901>a fucking cover shooter
>>719700184NuPrey is great tho, nothing else quite like it
>>719700198It would not be even better than the first Prey, and the first Prey is already a very mediocre FPS, inferior both to Doom 3 and Quake 4.
>>719700119Why would I care about the reason it got canned, it looks like a generic first person shooterI'm far more concerned about the reason Mega Man Legends 3 got canned, because at the very least Mega Man Legends 3 is not a game you see everyday.>>719700198>>719700184See >>719696731The Prey we got is beyond superior than this dogshit Prey 2 game
>>719700259Let me guess, you're really hyped for Silksong.
>>719699853>NuPrey loses everything that made the "imsim" genre funPrey 2017 isn't a corridor shooter, it offered a nice amount of options at most stages of the game.>hardest difficultyDifficulty wasn't compelling, I agree, but they did add a bunch of difficulty options with Mooncrash IIRC which includes weapon durability (it's shit) and trauma types from different damage types>writing is atrociousHow?>alternative pathsYeah that's kinda part of the appeal of immersive sims, you can make your own path, unless you mean alternate stages to get to somewhere in which case I somewhat agree, the game kinda wants you to go through areas in a specific order before unlocking alternate paths.>enemy designThe enemy design was good, though it lacked variety. As far as videogames go it's alright because they felt distinct beyond just "dude with a different weapon" like most games or "sprite with different stats and animation sheets" as it usually is for something like turn-based RPGs.>boring weaponsThere's barely any weapons, I agree with that.>they even managed to make the fucking traversal a chore with the awful glue gunGlue gun was great, it wasn't THE solution for getting everywhere but being able to have an on-demand wall platform and enemy disabler in one was good.>>719699975One of the developers or directors (forgot which) mentioned in some Reddit post years ago that they never planned to call it Neuroshock and that it's just a myth.
>>719687773>: "immersive sim" isn't a genre, it's just a name used by pretentious faggotsit's the name Warren Spector uses to describe his games and what fans of his games use to describe other games with similar game design, often made by people who have worked with Spector before.there is a broad definition and it gets repeated every time you poop your pants about it but you keep shoving your fingers in your ears and shouting LA-LA-LA-LA so you keep forgetting what it is so I won't waste my typing breath on you again.
yeah, but Prey 2017 is woke trash though
>>719700468>that it's just a myth.It's not a myth, the lead of the game ran around doing damage control in the run up to the release and said that they were FORCED to call it Prey. When they weren't, it was part of the fucking pitch.
>>719700535>Chudrot
>>719700603They were forced to call it Prey but apparently from Colantonio:>Neuroshock was a joke name. I keep reading that on reddit and twitter. We never intended to call Prey “Neuroshock”, it was a joke from one of the level designers, the proposed names were Typhon and StarSeed, but somehow corporate insisted on Prey. Had we name the game Neuroshock we’d have had taken just as must shit for naming our game after bioshock and system shock
>>719700162>Morally dubiousI'd just say you're propping up egomaniacs at that point. Just a personal difference in views about what we consider to be scummy behavior. Unless you can equate Human Head taking over 3D Realms Prey in a similar matter. Which i don't believe that's what happened, 3DR just went up in financial strife rather. They couldn't complete their vision because they had to shut down. What Colantonio and Bethesda did to another studio on the other hand was despicable.
>>719700468>How?What do you mean? The writing was awful, the audio logs and emails you find scattered around are poorly written, and the main story is complete slop on the level of "and it was all a dream". Characters act in completely retarded fashion to ensure you hit the gated checkpoints and the whole game feels like a fucking Postal 2 reference where the characters are designed to be as annoying as possible to make you kill them. I have rarely played games with worse writing than NuPrey.>you can make your own path,They all go to the same place. The "reward" for exploration is materials you don't need, or story you don't want to read.>The enemy design was good,You think 8 varieties of venom is good design?>on-demand wall platform and enemy disablerSpidey webs would do the same thing and be less tedious. You could even have shit like the player hanging off walls or the ceiling and shooting enemies.>>719700710They weren't. See: >>719680482, you are repeating lies. The proposed name was Prey2.
>>719673901looks kind of generic desu>first person cover shooterusually those are extremely not very fun to playwhen was this supposed to come out?
>>719700998Probably 2012, 2013.
>>719700710>They were forced to call it PreyIf Typhon and Starseed were the names then why weren't those names in the pitch? corporate didn't force shit on them it seems. Why include a screenshot of Prey in their totally not Prey replacement?>>719683306What was even the point of referencing Prey 1? or it's fucking logo?
>>719701434It was real in their minds.
>>719680482Where did you get these from
Prey is overrated. It was only okay.
>>719701632this, not sure what the hype was about
dev who worked on the game said it was zenimax's fault
>>719701767He sounds like someone who would harass women on a normal sunny day
>>719701434>corporate didn't force shit on them it seems.Yes they did, they thrust the IP onto Arkane but gave them leeway to make practically anything as long as it was a first-person sci-fi game involving aliens that was called Prey, This has been known since like 2013-4 or whenever this whole ordeal happened and the documents got leaked (likely by someone at Arkane who was pissed off at the whole shitshow). You're just being a retard who conflates people wishing that the game had been named differently with the game's name being changed at some point in development (never happened, it was always Project Danielle and going to be called Prey).
>>719673901Wouldn't say it looks "better" than the one we got because they are completely different games but this looks really fun. Like Strangers Wrath but with more freedom and parkour.
>>719673901Looks honestly vastly superior and fun compared to the gay poor peoples System Shock NuPrey
>retarded zoomers saying it looks "generic"How many bounty hunting games we have?
>>719672958Nope, Prey 2017 is better.
>basedfaced millennials hold up sporks and say "yep, that looks freaking epic"
>>719702080Necromunda: Hired GunStranger's WrathStar Wars: Bounty HunterRed Dead RedemptionNew Vegas Bounties
>>719678634Who gives a fuck about the name? The original Prey was trash, and this was open world slop barely functioning
>>719702080how many mediocre/bad 7th gen cover shooters do we have?
>>719701632Typical /v/tard contrarianism.Even the grognards of rpgcodex consensually admit that Colantonio's Prey is the best
>>719702152>5 in 30 yearsThanks for proving me right.
>>719674671Nu-prey is closer to System Shock than Prey
>>7197021052017 prey wouldve still come out, just under a different name. prey title was obviously slapped on there because they had it laying around and wanted to use it for anything
>>719702212NuPrey is closer to Prey than it is to System Shock. Don't worry, I really wouldn't expect you to get it.
This entire thread smells of Todd diverting attention away from bethesda. What happened lad, did the Starfield DLC flop that bad?
>>719702168Only a few actually.
>>719702210What do you mean prove you right that you didn't make that argument. I just named 5 games I played about bounty hunting off the top of my head so there are probably a lot more than that
>>719700856>The writing was awful, the audio logs and emails you find scattered around are poorly writtenHow though? You're not saying in what way the writing sucked, you're saying it sucked.>the main story is complete slopI mean, compared to Deus Ex it's worse because it doesn't have the open-ended faction thing but instead the endings are dictated by alignment. I still don't think it's shit though.>CharactersI didn't really mind them that much, I dunno why the hate for them, I don't remember exactly but I think the black security lady tries to force you to help them against the Typhons and the black guy wants a piano skill neuromod. The lesbian lady is stuck somewhere in the station's exterior, Alex is mostly there to argue the benefits of neuromods even though its production involves killing people, there's his ex-gf but she doesn't do much.>They all go to the same placeBut that's how most stages in videogames are, in System Shock 2 you still have to go to the Rickenbacker. This criticism is too vague because it can apply too easily to most games.>>719701434According to Wikipedia Arkane picked up Prey 2's development but Zenimax cancelled it before Arkane made a new game a few years later using most of the concepts they wanted to use in Prey 2, so as far as I can tell the timeline is>Human Head wants to work on Prey 2>Zenimax fucks them over and eventually gets Arkane to work on it (and I estimate this is when the pitch document was made, but the leaker would have to elaborate on that), intending to make it a different-genre sequel to the original in the same setting>Zenimax shuts down development for some reason>Years later, Arkane wants to make an immersive sim with most of the elements they pitched for Prey 2 and call it Typhon or StarSeed>Zenimax forces them to use the name Prey even though it has nothing to do with the original
>>719702351Don't pretend to be retarded. The argument is that it isn't generic like dumb fucks are saying here. Bounty hunting games are rare already and this had a Parkour system making it stand out. Just because it has a cover mechanic it doesn't make it generic. I hate zoomers.
>>719672958you dont hate zenimax enough
>>719702080Skyrim has bounty hunting in it.
>>719702152The closest you had there was Necromunda: Hired Gun and i suppose the Star Wars game. There's still a big gap in themes and gameplay concepts that some people wanted. I guess i would just describe it as Cowboy Bepop meets Bladerunner meets a neo-noir alien Star Wars kind of city planet. And for actual bounty hunter games that looks like it fits only half the description is Exekiller as i said earlier. I'm pissed off because ISN'T games.
>>719702168FractureInversion007 Blood StoneSplinter Cell Conviction First Uncharted Spec Ops The LineThe Bureau XcomLost PlanetKane and Lynch 2
>>719702446You're talking about a lot of random shit I never mentioned and moving the goalposts. You asked for bounty hunting games and I gave you them. That's it
>>719702646I'm jumping in with that anon to call you out on a dishonest statement when the concept that Prey 2 was doing hasn't been done. And you're very intentionally doing that. Get fucked, that anon wanted you to point him in the direction of a Prey 2
>>719700302You will never be white.
>>719702708That post did not say anything about asking for games like Prey, it asked for bounty games. He very explicitly asked for bounty hunting games and if he wanted to ask for games like Prey, maybe he should have made that clear
>>719702708but you're doing the same thing
>>719702834And you will never have sex.
Prey (2017) is the only good game of the last 15 years besides the Souls series. Cope more.
>>719700854Roman Polanski is a pedo, but that doesn't prevent me from enjoying his movies. As scummy as Colantonio could've been, he and his team still managed to make a better game than Prey.
>>719672958>Turns out it's way better than nuPrey. Lol no
>>719673901>Travel to the questmarker>Shoot guys>Travel to the questmarker>Shoot same guys>Travel to the questmarker>Press X to talk (you don't actually talk)>Shoot same guys>Travel to the questmarker>...
>>719673901This looks fucking shitThat's it? Slide into cover and autolock with aim assist and x-ray vision? This is what retards have been foaming their mouth over ever since its cancellation?
>>719693273>Yes it's still unclear of where and when their paths crossed in the game world. But there's a screenshot of Tommy in it. At least i don't know if I've seen the story board.Tommy was apparently the new owner of 'The Sphere' in Prey 2. Or at least that was revealed somewhere by people from Human Head. It was unclear if he hired the lead bounty hunter, or if there was a bounty on Tommy's head.
>>719701952What i take issue with you is saying that the name was thrust upon Arkane. This was in the pitch stage, it hadn't entered full development by that point and it even says so on the slides regarding the story hadn't been conceptualized. So not even in the production stage. This means a conscious decision was made for his project to be greenlit for development was screwing over the original HH game. If he wants his System Shock clone to ever be developed by Bethesda then he acknowledged he had to screw over Tommy prey. No one held a gun to his head to make a game that was named Prey and that's my whole issue with it. That i see that as somewhat as conspiring to take down another studio's work. Being the founder of said studio actually no one had any say on what he HAD to make. Only the name in that sense to get it started and to get the funding rolling.
>>719673901They couldn't even implement a proper AssCreed chase system yet? No wonder Bethesda canned this pile of junk
>>719703513>That i see that as somewhat as conspiring to take down another studio's work.You're fucking retarded. Colantonio has been shitting on Bethesda, Microsoft and all of the business corporate bullshit for years. Prey (2017) was never meant to be called Prey, there's fucking nothing in the game that fits the name. You're projecting your weird headcanon on one guy who wants to actually make games, if anything, you should be thinking about Harvey Smith's part in it, he seems like a faggot that would actually go behind everyone's back and "steal" a name to make his bosses happy.
How do we know that the pitch is legit again ? Also if it was true that arkane really wanted to call it prey 2 then why Bethesda or zenimax never corrected the director of Nuprey on the name thing ?Beside even if that was true they probably pitched the game as prey 2 to get funds and change the name later (like typhoon as Raphael said)
>>719696556>Reminds me of E.Y.E.Except without the good shooting mechanics of a PC FPS
>>719703759this anon posted a good breakdown>>719702403
>>719703719>Prey (2017) was never meant to be called Prey, there's fucking nothing in the game that fits the nameThe whole game is about wheter or not aliens can see things as more than a prey, with a narrative tied to simulations and morality system on a meta level>You're projecting your weird headcanonThe only headcanon here is that anyone gave a shit about the original "Prey"
>>719703759Man, you're on like 8 different levels of cope here.Buddy, what's more likely? That 90 million things aligned and they were forced to name the game Prey, or... they just lied about it?
>>719703513Not that anon but the first time in 2013 they wanted to make Prey 2 as a sequel to Prey and that's where the pitch likely comes from. I'm not sure if the game really was cancelled back then or not but by the time it was revealed as a reboot in 2016 it was in a completely different setting that doesn't use the original. It's likely they wanted to change the name to reflect the fact that it's not actually tied to Prey anymore but Bethesda/Zenimax didn't let them.
>>719703858>that's where the pitch likely comes from.Man, you freaks really are trying to memoryhole this already, huh? This has nothing to do with Prey 2, this pitch was made AFTER they killed Prey 2, this is a pitch for NuPrey.
Kek, this anon REALLY wants Arkane and not fucking Bethesda to be the villain in a dispute about a game nobody gave a shit about
>>719702646It was a rhetorical question, retard.
>>719678225Prey 2 is more like Strontium Dog than Judge Dredd if we have to compare it to a 2000AD comic.
>>719673901>scan the place>chase the guy>go through the window>shoot themI already see myself hating this game with all my being
>>719672958Looks like goyslop while nuPrey is a masterpiece
>>719674839It looks like a game that would have been nice if it wasn't a console shooter.
>>719673901>>719672958Glad this got leaked so we can finally archive Prey 2 as a trash vertical slide for a cinematic console cover shooter
>>719703857Not coping just curious , this whole prey 2 story seem to be , or the leak may be true but again if this is true then why zenimax never corrected Rapheal then ?
>>719673901An open world cover-based shooter with regenerating health and Batman vision is the exact kind of game /v/ would endlessly make fun of
>>719700856>the main story is complete slop on the level of "and it was all a dream"/v/ once again showing their expertise in video games
>>719701767What game is the dev talking about at the start of the comment thread?
>>719704472that's old /v/ before shittennials that unironically praise Rage and were filtered by Doom Eternal took over
>>719704484The story falls apart because you're not a typhon. You're a human playing as a typhon. Only complete fucking midwits think this is even vaguely interesting writing.
>>719703925The only thing that might imply it's for nuPrey is the estimated release date of Q3 2016, but this could very easily be the 2013 version because they estimated it would take 3 years to make an immersive sim space game that's set as a sequel to Prey. Dishonored 1 was developed by both the american and the french studio but they mainly worked on two separate games after that; Dishonored 2 (Lyon, the french studio) and Prey (Austin, the american studio). Bethesda claims the game was officially cancelled in 2014 and so it's probable that 2015 was when Arkane got the greenlight to work on the game again and they got to reuse most of the assets they've already made, but for a different setting that wasn't Prey's.
>>719704653>The only thing that might imply it's for nuPrey is the estimated release date of Q3 2016,Again, if you looked at ANY of the other fucking images from the slideshow, you'd know it's NuPrey. Why would they be PITCHING this game for a 2016 release when they had a fucking E3 demo in 2011, are you fucking BRAINDEAD?
I don't give a fuck about the original Prey, but I'm glad Prey taking its name pisses off console retards that wanted this slop
NuPrey was leagues better than the first shit ass game and I'm tired of pretending it wasn't
>>719704652You're a Typhon living out a simulation and in that simulation you're a human subject to a number of morality tests. I'd be very careful throwing around accusations of being a "complete fucking midwit" when you're a drooling retard yourself, unless your kink is getting called out on the internet
>>719702878>it asked for bounty gamesPrey 2 is the only game to it look like a proper bountry system on the other hand. The only game that actually seemed to have some emphasis on how the bounties worked. That's the clearest terms i can put it in. What you suggested was bounty hunter themed. And i guess he should have just specifically stated Space Bounty Hunter game because then it would have made that idea or concept pretty clear. Probably people want to see something closer to what could happen in Star Wars too if the right IP came along with the right ideas.
>>719673901I feel like the closest thing we will actually get to this game is Cyberpunk
>>719673901Gives me SW Bounty Hunter vibes, so I could forgive the cover shooting as long as they made it interesting, that wheel at the beginning for instance had a bunch of interesting sounding explosives.Overall I think this demo shows they could have had a very interesting game were they allowed to finish it.
>>719704728Because development of the sequel was given over to Arkane circa 2013 who decided to play into their own strengths (immersive sims) and restart development with a different genre, but still within the same Prey setting. Human Head had already developed a significant amount of content before the sabotaging from Zenimax made them stop working on the game, and Zenimax was looking for a different studio to work on it. Eventually they got to Arkane in 2013 and that's likely when the pitch was made. Arkane didn't use the original content, they wanted to make their own version of the sequel and that's likely why they called it Prey2. At some point it didn't use the original Prey setting anymore and that's likely when they wanted to change the game's name to something different, at which point Zenimax didn't let them.
>>719704832>You're a TyphonNope, I'm people. I imagine the same kind of story told within an alien system could be compelling, though. Something like Speaker for the Dead but you're one of the piggies, you know?
>>719704597>doom eternal filtering millennialsNice headcanon, zoomieId made a game specifically for filtered zoomzooms like yourself, it's called Doom: The Simon Says
>>719704969>Overall I think this demo shows they could have had a very interesting game Just like Redfall>were they allowed to finish it.SO Human Head Studios faggots lied when they claimed Bethesda cancelled an almost done game I guess?
>>719705081>Human Head Studios faggots lied when they claimed Bethesda cancelled an almost done game I guess?We've got no idea how close this build was to the final release.
>forced microsoft leak overshadows comfy doometernal-like fps releasegrimhttps://youtu.be/Og--2_v2ONA?t=475
>>719705081>Just like RedfallIs it interesting?
>>719705207Isn't this an AI slop game with an unattractive female protagonist? Why would I play it?
>>719704969Can't believe they ripped off Cyberpunk like that.
>>719705212Of course it is, it was made by the talented developers of Prey 2 (that totally got shafted and never lied about this game they couldn't show being a janky empty vertical slice demo)
I'd take a 100 nuPrey sequels and spinoffs than see your shitty 7th gen shooter EVER release :)
>>719705362I don't see how the two correlate, unless we know the director/producer of the prey2 team was the same.
>>719705430Could have both. I don't understand why mentally ill people blame the devs of another game for it, unless this is covertly just an excuse to shit on Prey 2017
>>719705302she doesnt look too bad
/v/ would instantly improve if only millennials were allowed to post.
>>719705501Prey 2017 filtered so many retards, kek.
>>719705538I notice you didn't post her face, wonder why?
Hated the original PreyLoved Prey 2017Think cancelled Prey looks good too
Both Bethesda damage control and Arkane damage control in the thread simultaneously.wew ladShould just released the game. Shouldn't have advertised something and then not delivered and then instead give us zoomer shock.
>>719705591bottom part didnt load in?
>>719705821It's so dark I couldn't even tell.
>>719678342The space between your ears is complete dogshit.
>>719705447>I don't see how the two correlate,Besides the fact that it's a human head studios game?
>>719678720It's a fucking masterpiece. Cry harder, bitch nigga.
>>719681074>Nu zoom zomy zoome nuzoom nuwow what a great review are you a professional games journalisms
>>719705207I've it on my wishlist for a while. I still want to play Prey 2 regardless. I don't think anything on Unreal Engine can compare to how good Id Tech looks at times. Look at this and compare. This shit still looks amazing even if it's dated graphically.
>>719688878Stop replying to yourself, this is embarrassing to watch.
>>719689593There was literally one lesbian couple in the game.
>>719706061Human Head didn't own Redfall what are you talking about? Redfall was worked on by nuPrey people, not Prey2 people.
Bros let's team up and make the real prey 2 ourselves
>>719673901Would love for this to turn into a fan project
>>719706503https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Head_Studios
>>719707293They worked on it alongside Arkane, id did too, but Arkane Austin were the ones ultimately responsible for the end product, it wasn't "their game" the same way Prey 1 and 2 were.
it had nothing to do with the new Prey you edgy moronsbut I agree that game should have been named Moonshock
nuPrey is one of the best modern games around
>>719706390yeah and they took up half the audio logs, for some reason (we all know the reason)
>>719704023If you're referring to me i consider Bethesda first and foremost the villain of the story, in which they deserve to be boycotted until they ever decide to make it right with all of the fans they screwed over. Maybe actually making a Prey 2 bigger and better than before could easily turn this story around. What they shouldn't have resorted to was their vile tactics by using Pete Hines as their attack dog at the time to shut people up. I'm only pointing towards a secondary villain in Arkane because i don't think they should bet let off the hook.
>>7196739011 more year to smooth it all out, remove all the zoomer messages and quest markers and that stupid super vision, fix the combat. The vision really fucks it all up, looking for clues or information on your target, going to some other part of a city to buy info from some scammer would've been so kino
>>719704484You're not getting that you're a human IRL making decisions from the moment you take control of the MC, thus the ending's whole impact is also a facade only midwits think is the deepest shit. Story-wise you've got implanted memories so you were a dude from the moment you get the first cutscene, narratively the story solved itself before you even got to the end. Sure some fat fuck got to advance technology but you're not him you're literally just a lab rat, killing him and commiting genocide is the only true agency you can have in the story.>but isn't it like cool like how it had you make a choice and it proved you were a humanNot really.Soma tackled this general sense of mind fuckery better.
>>719708897Soma was very mediocre too, the only actual point of interest in the whole thing was WAU, and instead the story focused entirely on the completely braindead protagonist who couldn't understand the most basic of concepts. It would've been a great game if you could tell Catherine to fuck off with her death cult garbage and go help WAU torture the rest of the humans until it could understand them, creating a new race of superhuman mutants who could live on the surface again. Instead it's just "no WAU is bad because it's HURTING people, please ignore the fact it accidentally created Simon as a conduit and is constantly attempting to communicate with him".
>>719708897>>719710038You both just don't understand the appeal of these games. Prey 2017 is mostly a gameplay game, the story is serviceable and actually good for a game that is mostly centered around the gameplay and exploration which is absolutely top-notch. No one plays Prey 2017 for the story in isolation, just like no one is playing Mario games for the story.As for Soma the point of the game is also not directly the story itself as a narrative. It's more about (You) the player facing choices about what (You) personally consider to be human or not and you are constantly given choices like unplugging a robot thinking it's human, shutting down a simulation of a human brain running on a computer, unplugging an actual human that is suffering, unplugging your own self that you have been controlling all the way up to that point.There's a reason why it's been escalating, it's testing your personal morality and ethics threshold to see where your own personal line is of "okay that is a bit too much this should be kept alive" or the opposite "nah this suffering is too brutal we should unplug it and let it out of its misery.In both games it's not about the actual story like a book. It's about your experience through it as a player. In Prey 2017 it's about the gameplay possibilities the setting and story provides as an excuse for cool weapons and maneuvering. In Soma it's about you being forced to confront your own morality and being forced to rethink your stance towards life. There's a reason why Soma has a form you have to complete with the same questions at the very start and very end of the game. It gives you the time to reflect and see how the game has potentially changed your core beliefs.They are both very good games and I HATE how hey are being pushed as "story games" because it makes people dismiss the actual meat of those experiences. Both games could have completely replaced the story and they would still be classics.
>>719672958the only thing that would have changed if this didn't get cancelled is that Arkane would have released their 2017 masterpiece under a different name. This was on track to happening but the devs canned Prey2 and forced the name on Arkane.
>>719710038At the very least you still get the actual choice of letting WAU keep trying rather than having it be all a dream where your choices don't impact the narrative at all.It also does the shamalamadingong twist insanely better simply because (you) being a human with memories IRL translates better to your experiences with the game. At least you can ask yourself "am I really me or am I reliving implanted memories like the MC?"
>>719710479>They are both very good gamesYou are king of the midwits. None of the shit in Soma is interesting, these are basic moral problems anyone with a brain solved in their head when they were 12. None of them took more than half a second to decide, and nobody changed their answers unless they were a fucking retard with no basic convictions or morals. It's nice that you're an NPC and never thought about these concepts before so the game felt very fresh to you, but to the rest of us that just makes you look utterly soulless.The gameplay in NuPrey is shit. I would have more respect for you if you said the story was really good and that's why you liked it, you would be wrong but at least you wouldn't be a complete fucking moron who doesn't understand basic gameplay mechanics.>>719710958It still reduces the whole thing down into just fisting a butthole or not, and there's no impact on the ending. If there was a secret ending for keeping all the people you can alive so that WAU can torture them, and uploading a copy of the ark directly to WAU so it can torture them too, it'd be an okay game.
>>719710479>it's more about the gameplayFair enough maybe Prey 2017 wasn't for me.I'm usually a fan of imsims but it bored me out of my mind.
>>719708863Just make it all a toggle in the difficulty tab and be done with it
>>719678280yeah they fucked up massively not anticipating years later people are gonna pretend to be nostalgic for Doom Native American Edition. A fine 5-6/10 game thats still ultimately forgettable.
>>719706268Something about this just looks bad to me. I think it reminds me of Doom 3 subconsciously, which I like but it has some really bad textures unmodded.
>>719712202>Something about this just looks bad to meTasteless. > I think it reminds me of Doom 3 subconsciously,I don't consider that a bad thing because the Dark Mod also looks great in specific scenarios too.
>>719708863>fix the combatIt's designed around hitscan/fast projectiles, cover and regenerating health. It isn't fixable unless you start from the scratch. You can try "fixing" some part of it, but that will just make other problems worse. Like, you give protag gigaspeed to outrun bullets, but the AI is still designed to take cover and be mostly immobile, so you can jump around the arena shooting stationary stupid idiots, such fun.
>>719712759I think it's how uniform the textures are. I like how Doom 3 looks, I think id had better artists.
>>719711080>The gameplay in NuPrey is shit. I would have more respect for you if you said the story was really good and that's why you liked it, you would be wrong but at least you wouldn't be a complete fucking moron who doesn't understand basic gameplay mechanicswhat do you think the gameplay mechanics of Prey are
>>719712817Well these aren't final product so it does make sense that the textures aren't overly varied, but I wouldn't call them uniform.
>>719672958looks like utter dogshit, you contrarianbargin bin 360 game
>>719713052Prey? It's a basic shooter with an occasionally fun portal gimmick. NuPrey? It's like a really shitty clone of SS2 that fails at everything it attempts to do. Deus Ex had better gameplay, and that's a game where I spent half the game crouched on the ground tasing dudes in the ass. NuPrey is fucking atrocious, the one slightly novel mechanic it has is the glue gun, which is awful to use and tedious to traverse. It's the kind of concept that would've been considered early on and then discarded by any devs with a brain after a quick prototype.
>>719713443I mean, in my opinion, the focus of Prey(2017) is on exploration. The combat isn't great (but it's more fun than SS2, lmao), but the enemies are basically just obstacles. The station is pretty and varied, you have luxury areas, industrial areas and even an old Soviet lab in the middle of it, plus you can go outside and genuinely travel around the station in space once you unlock some airlocks.It's a vibes-based game which is good at giving you a sense of being in some weird place and gradually getting used to it. Like SS2 and Bioshock, which are also really bad if you judge them purely on combat.
>>719713624SS2 is way more fun because you at least have some weapon variation to break up the monotony. The design of the station is uninteresting, Bioshock looked better.
>>719674343Don't worry Mass Effect 4 is announced and I have total confidence in Bioware to handle this and deliver the quality fans of the series deserve. Nothing. You deserve worse than nothing. Tali and Liara will probably lecture you on gender relations if you pick a renegade option. The Geth are binary so they're evil. That's what you deserve
>>719713754>SS2 is way more fun because you at least have some weapon variation to break up the monotony.Not really? You literally can't use weapons without meeting skill requirements, and you usually want to focus on one weapon skill, maybe dipping into Heavy for that sweet bugged Grenade Launcher or into Energy to use Laser Pistol. Not to mention half of the weapons are just awful. Like those stupid machine-only or organics-only weapons, you would only use them in a challenge run.>The design of the station is uninteresting, Bioshock looked better.That's, just, like, your opinion, man. I mean, literally it's a matter of opinion. Bioshock is good, but Prey environments are more diverse. Not to mention you can't even go outside in Bioshock 1, while in Prey flying around the station is possible and encouraged.
>>719714067>Not really?You can experience most of the weapons in the game without going out of your way. NuPrey is so utterly limited that you spend the entire game using the shotgun because it's just miles better than anything else, there isn't even a fucking assault rifle. NuPrey has 7 weapons, 1 of which does no damage, and 2 of which only stun. That's 4 real weapons, which is less than just the standard category in SS2.>Prey environments are more diverseSpace is boring, you just float around and move to points of interest. The internal station all looks the same, there's barely anything going on there, it's a shit hotel on most floors and vaguely mechanical labs on others.
>>719673901Oh well this was depressing news to wake up to. I hate Bethesda with every viber of my being
>>719706760Fine, I'll get started on the logo.
>>719708269Do we? They took half the audio logs for their quest, maybe.
>>719679983>NuPrey was not even Prey, it was Typhon*Neuroshock
>>719672958>Got leaked>It's just a videoFucking useless
>>719714881>NuPrey is so utterly limited that you spend the entire game using the shotgunShotgun is shit against flying enemies and technopaths, Q-Beam is way better in those scenarios. I agree that shotgun is OP, but it's not the best gun in every situation. I also like Pistol.>That's 4 real weapons, which is less than just the standard category in SS2.Standard weapons in SS2 are: pistol, shotgun, wrench and AR, and AR is basically identical to pistol except it holds more ammo and does 25% more damage.To be fair to SS2, it has ammo types.>Space is boringI think it's fun, actually.>it's a shit hotel on most floors and vaguely mechanical labs on othersSystem Shock 2 is a shit space station.Bioshock is a shit underwater hotel.Half-Life is shit labs.etc.I get that you don't like Prey 2017, that's fine, maybe you're right and it's a bad game. But you're being intentionally reductionist to the point it's not even fun to argue with you.
>>719716025Prey arsenal is extremely balanced, both psi and firepowerThe game "assault rifle" cripples your mobility and forces continuous fire and the pistol isa fast small caliber while the shotgun has limited range but hard staggerIt's legitimately a great game and an IQ filter
Great game
>>719716402My problem with Prey Pistol is that pistol ammo costs like 2 times as much as shotgun ammo when it comes to damage-per-resource. I liked how pistol feels, especially the unique one you can get, and I used it a lot, but it's literally a waste of resources.In theory, it's suppressed so maybe useful for stealth builds, idk.
>>719716025Here's the thing, it's still the same shit art deco style lifted right out of Bioshock. It's visually extremely uninteresting, Half-Life had some real variety. >I think it's fun, actually.I mean that it's boring in terms of visuals. The outside of the station has nothing going on, and the little shuttle you can fly over to has nothing of value inside. Space in NuPrey could have been replaced with automated shuttles like the bathyspheres in Bioshock, and it would've made no impact on the game.>>719716402>balancedNever in any game have I wanted the weapons to be "balanced". I want to find something that's more broken than the last gun, if a gun is too broken, the solution is to limit ammo for it so you're forced to cycle and not use your RPG on every enemy soldier you walk into.
Vgghhhhhh if only
reminder that the archives show almost nobody on /v/ ever mentioned the og prey until the 2017 one was announced and youre all bandwagoning clowns
>>719716543>Here's the thing, it's still the same shit art deco style lifted right out of BioshockArt deco is a cool style. It's much more limited in Prey, anyway.> The outside of the station has nothing going on, and the little shuttle you can fly over to has nothing of value inside. Space in NuPrey could have been replaced with automated shuttles like the bathyspheres in Bioshock, and it would've made no impact on the game.I think it's a cool and immersive way to "fast travel" and it adds a real sense of scale even if it's all fake. I just liked chilling outside and aimlessly flying around, found some neat stuff that way. I just don't like using fast travel.
TODD... HIRE THIS GUY
>>719716651I bet the blue dude is invulnerable until you catch him, lol
>>719716543You are a soulless faggot
>>719716704Nobody talked about Prey because it was an average shooter in a sea of average shooters. Compared to NuPrey, it's a masterpiece, but that's just because the level of current shooters is so absurdly low that basically anything would be considered a masterpiece, even shit like Medal of Honor on the PS1.
>>719716790H-he's fast
>>719716790more likely he can be killed but you insta-fail the mission if he dies because this mission was CAPTURE only.
>>719716826You are a low IQ cretin>even shit like Medal of Honor on the PS1.Medal of Honor PS1 is an excellent game and an outstanding milestone. So is real Prey (2017). Fake Prey was a braindead boring ps3 shooter where you can't die and you go through enemy spawn flags in shit corridors
>>719716910If this game had mission failures surely they'd add one if you fail to catch the guy? But in the mission footage he runs to a certain point and then just stands there, waiting for you to grab him.
>>719716704I do remember that Arkane's fans went after Prey 2006 fans on the other hand during the reveal at E3. So that is why i will continue to call out Raphael Colantonio's scummy behavior, as well as Bethesda's scummy behavior. Arkane made a conscious decision to screw over the Prey franchise to get the initial funding they needed for their project, it wasn't even in full development before they decided upon using Prey. Likewise Bethesda made a complete mockery of it and claimed it was vaporware because it's behind so many legal stipulations that we'll never know the truth.
>>719717020I think that's the format they were explicitly working in. it's not really a chase. the chase exists to lead you through a number of shooting galleries. you cannot catch the victim early, you cannot fail to catch the victim. the chase is a pretense for a prepared sequence of combat scenarios. the other videos show a graybox "chase" that works the same way so this isn't a one off thing for a "fake demo" or whatever, this is the game they were making.
They don't make em like they used to
>>719716826>Compared to NuPrey, it's a masterpiece
>>719717181I don't disagree. This is a major criticism for this game as a "bounty hunting simulator". It doesn't do a great job of making you feel like it.However, in the footage the first bounty feels more natural. The one where protag incapacitates and then kills the guy. But that's probably because it was a repeatable sidequest.
>>719716704I mentioned it before 2017 because I played it when it came out and liked it, it's not exactly some masterpiece of fiction that you need to dedicate your life to.
>/v/ is shilling a 7th gen cover shooter with Assassins Creed Black Flag pigeon tier quests over an hub based sprawling immersive simThe enshittification of this board needs to be studied
What really rustles my jimmies about this guy is that he claimed to have sort of an underdog story about making immersive sims and why he had to leave the industry for independence. Yet when he was faced with the scenario of trying to get a leg up in the business world he just kicks down all the plebs so he could stand up on top. To make sure his idea is hopefully successful. Motherfucker probably thought he was gonna be rich by adding in those survival crafting mechanics. Even trend chasing backfired on him.
Kinda funny how contrarian try to make nuPrey look badIts game design was great
>>719717373they had at least two types of bounties:>capture or killdo whatever, these can be completed early by any means>capturethese are the "cinematic", scripted fake chases where at most I could imagine a conditional early victory that requires the player to do something rather specific at a specific point during the chase, like "use this type of grenade in this room before the target has reached position X". like 20% of players end the chase in room 3 out of 5, that sort of thing. I bet they had that or were at least trying to do it.but they can't let you terminate most chases early or it would butcher the play-time of the game. this is always the problem with branching content.more speculation: maybe they had a third type of mission that's purely>killthe enemy is a bullet sponge who runs away solo, no mooks protecting him. you're really fighting him 1v1 and he has a strategic advantage in that he controls positioning and you want to avoid civilian casualties (reputation loss if you kill them, or it might even be prohibited by a mission as the bounty contracts in the HUD imply), plus this type of target really shoots back hard. no stormtrooper aim.that's what I would have done, though I don't see it in the videos. the advantage of this mission type would be that it would take a lot less work to set up (I think the coordinated helper enemies would be the most work hours on a "capture" mission). you only set up one route through one of your hub maps for the bad guy, choose which weapons he has, how much health he has, maybe give him some weakness like "weak to electric shock". the rest is situational combat AI and making sure there are civilians in some areas and not others so the player has to manage his weapons more carefully and that's about it. lots of content produced quickly once the core systems work.
>the rabid hater is a jeetExplains a lot. They probably rejected his job application or something like that.
>>719718547rabbit* esltard
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>the jeet displays abysmally humiliating levels of ESL yet projects anywayMany such cases.
anon above me is jeet using gpt to cover himself up hahahaha bloody benchod saar
Did we watch the same video because it looks jank as hell and clearly years away from completion
>>719673901what the fuck why was this cancelled over nuPrey?fuck this gay world wtf man
