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kind of a huge change for the game.
what are we thinking HOTS bros?

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24232472/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-september-2-2025
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>>719749492
have sex
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I'm genuinely surprised this game isn't dead.
Does it really still get updates, etc.?
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>>719749492
>what are we thinking HOTS bros?
It's still fucking dead.
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>>719749492
Fag game for nigger brained tards
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>>719749606
it didn't for a while and now it feels like Blizzard's slowly bringing it back to life.
>>719749668
you're part of the problem nigga.
>>719749781
tongue my anus
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>>719749492
Those are some pretty dramatic changes to forts and minions, what is the janny planning? Also, I'm curious to see how this will affect me, since I've been playing aram only
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>>719750227
camps also spawn fasterat the start of the match. i wonder how long it'll take to go from the beginning of the match to camp and create chaos
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>>719749492
How come they haven't closed the servers yet? They canned the esport division a long time ago, I'm glad it's still alive though, it's a good game
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>>719750407
eh, some changes are interessting, they're updating Illidan after like 6 years which is surprising but it's only Fiery Brand, and nobody gives a fuck about that gay talent
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I hate that they made the Demon Hunter lose her attack speed from dying
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>>719750684
I've only ever seen AI take that talent.
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>>719750583
I'm guessing it still brings enough revenue for Blizzard to invest in Hots.
some people are saying the trailer for this upcoming Blizzcon hints at Hots 3.0
>>719750810
This bitch is getting banned all the time anyway, she's too OP
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>>719749492
What the? When's the last time this game was updated? I thought they said they were perma done with the game. Blizzard must really have nothing in the pipes if they are updating Hots.
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>Cooldown increased from 75 seconds to 240 seconds.
Holy fucking kek, how broken was this ?
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Microsoft revives the game at 2026 Blizzcon
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>>719751215
I wouldn't say global teleport to any bush or steam cloud was broken.
At least on certain maps.
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>>719751104
July 29th was the last patch and they pretty much buffed the ccs of everyone and overall buffed Tyrael amongst other shit
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>>719751294
Microsoft? The same Microsoft that is known for killing studios en masse?
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Steam release when? It would at least boost attention and population
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>>719751519
this
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>>719750843
it's me I'm the AI taking that talent

Also interested in how the changes shake out. Call for Help with the towers automatically raping you if you so much as sneezed as an enemy hero was pretty fucking gay and I hated it when I first started playing again.
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>>719751215
>Cooldown is reduced by 50 seconds when a Regen Globe is picked up.
the next line says it's reduced massively by globes. they want you to hang out in lane for a bit and have some basic presence before leaving. clear the lane and you have 2 globes.
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>>719749492
did they remove all of the Overwatch heroes?
no?
still not coming back then
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>>719751842
Ana is fine.
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>>719751215
it's more like a rework, it gets reduced by 50s every time you eat a healing globe
dehaka has been insanely strong for a long time though
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>Li Ming
>Valla
>Jaina

My three mains, am I based or cringe?
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>>719751842
wish they would add more skins based on other games though, like Blood Raven for Sylvanas or the Amazon skin for Nova.
makes playing characters i don't give a fuck about bareable.
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>>719749492
>what are we thinking HOTS bros?
all 3 of you?
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>>719752058
you're an annoying fucker for playing them but they're welcome in any team
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Am I the only one who picks the same skills every single match? I only play DPS though
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>>719749492
Yooo what the actual fuck are these updates?
>Forts, Keeps, and the Core will now grant Allied Heroes that take damage in their radius 50 Armor for 4 seconds. This effect has a 4 second cooldown and can only be granted to 1 Hero per Structure. While this Armor is in effect, Enemy Heroes that attack the target will be slowed by 20%.
>Forts, Keeps, and Core will no longer prioritize an Enemy Hero when an Allied Hero is attacked.
>Mercenary camps now spawn 30 seconds after the match begins (Down from 60 seconds).
>Small XP globes will now vanish if no allied Hero is within 15 radius of the globe.
>Structure Health increased by 12.5%.
When a Hero attacks an enemy structure with a Basic Attack, minions near the building become inspired and gain 35% attack speed and 35% move speed for 3 seconds. This does not affect illusions or summons.
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>>719749492
i wish blizz didnt tank the game trying to force esports bullshit. cho'gall is the most fun i've ever had playing mobas, skeleton king is a close second.
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>>719752179
My fourth most played champ is Kaelthas, so I guess I am in fact really annoying
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>>719752259
You can get away with picking the same skills for most characters I'd say but some characters will require me to pick different builds, like Alextrasza for instance
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>play Alexstraza
>have Stitches teammate
>he takes hungry for more
>I take circle of life
You wil never kill my fat, fast friend.
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>>719749492
Did they open up all chat?
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Why come overwatch is on steam and hots isnt?
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>>719750810
It was necessary, I've seen her delete tanks in 2 seconds
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>>719754238
Valla is weak on her own but very OP when buffed and protected
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>>719754319
There's a guy on NA who has a ~91% win rate with Valla. That says all you need to know.
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is it on steam yet
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>>719749606
Blizzard will keep it alive as long as LoL is popular.
I think it just might outlive Do2a.
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>>719751812
It's an indirect nerf to all specialists who push by accumulating minions.
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>>719754917
No, its a huge buff to all specialists except for those that only summon. So basically just Abathur.
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>>719755019
its moreso a nerf to a certain type of playstyle that no one likes or really wants to deal with. On either side.
which is a good thing
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>>719755019
>Forts, Keeps, and the Core will now grant Allied Heroes that take damage in their radius 50 Armor for 4 seconds. This effect has a 4 second cooldown and can only be granted to 1 Hero per Structure. While this Armor is in effect, Enemy Heroes that attack the target will be slowed by 20%.
wtf is this anti-dive shit
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Post more panda butt
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>gets no new map or hero in 5 years
>still want you to pay cash for decent XP gain, heroes, and skins
Nah. Rework that shit. If you can abandon development, you can abandon your price gouged lootbox garbage.
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>>719755974
they want you to dive the tower itself not the enemy hero
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>>719755974
Yeah, that's a really baffling change. Hard to see how that improves the game.
Of course, this sort of nonsense balance change is what killed the game in the first place and is what I've come to expect from Blizzard.
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>>719752313
>>719755974
>>719756618
This is PTR though, if faggots are vocal enough they wont put this shit in live
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>>719749606
No new heroes/maps/skins, but it gets balance and bugfix updates every 2 months or so.
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>>719749492
>50 armor
This protects Abathur and I hate it
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>>719756578
>announced 365 day long xp boosts at blizzcon
>pulled the plug 1 week later
second most jewish thing I have seen from a video game
first being destiny 2 deleting everything and calling it content
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>>719752259
Depends on a hero. I always pick 1 build on Fenix, but Valla or Falstad have 3 viable builds for example.
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>>719757812
Good thing it's only a PTR patch and not public, so it's bound to be tweaked to something more reasonable like 20 armor.
Also keep in mind that the armor is applied if they take damage, so surely the first big hit hit is unarmored.
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>>719757745
Has there been an online game like this? Going for years and years on maintenance mode
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>>719749606
They still got a janitor tossing the players a bone once in a while.
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>>719757990
Broodwar? Last balance update was 24 years ago, and there's no DLCs or skins or season passes, simply unthinkable.
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>>719749781
>>719749668
ooooh careful with that harsh language you might get reported and permanently banned from your little kid game
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>>719758143
I used to say nigger with hard R during random matches and never got banned
that was when the game was still alive too
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>>719758143
>is Alarak white?
daym, my man asks THE questions
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>>719758219
>used to
I called a KT a retarded fucking nigger last week three separate times for his poor talent picks. Still playing on the same account from 2016.
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>>719758395
based
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>>719749492
I remember really liking playing Sylvanas in HOTS even though I could barely understood what I was doing
Her ability to turn enemy minions into allies and building an army was very fun to me, that's something I've never seen in another moba, and the closest thing I got was Necromancer in D2
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>>719758143
There's something incredibly hilarious about seeing niGGer with the "GG" emoji in it
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>>719758741
>match ends
>type ni at the end
>idiot sees 2 letters and automatically types 2 gg
>type er right after
result
>anon: ni
>rando: gg
>anon: er
its fun trying to time it before a second random also types gg and you end up with nigggger
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>>719758846
kek i gotta try that
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holy shit those tower changes
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>>719759176
until we get specialists back with tower ammo I'm not interested
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>>719755974
its going to make duo lanes/aram fucking violent as hell compared to
>instantly get focused by every tower the moment you touch an enemy
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I used to play hots and I would always play as Abathur
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>>719755974
read the entire thing before posting
they removed the tower aggro if you attack enemy hero within its range
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malthael nerf reverts?
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>>719749492
>Forts, Keeps, and the Core will now grant Allied Heroes that take damage in their radius 50 Armor for 4 seconds. This effect has a 4 second cooldown and can only be granted to 1 Hero per Structure. While this Armor is in effect, Enemy Heroes that attack the target will be slowed by 20%.

What the fuck is this casual shit
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I would unironically reinstall this if it were on Steam
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>>719750583
>How come they haven't closed the servers yet?
Because the $10 monthly bill doesn't even appear in any reports.
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>Small XP globes will now vanish if no allied Hero is within 15 radius of the globe.

Is this the end of double soaking?
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anyone want to play with a support main?
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>>719759942
Small globes are 1/4 value, if you're gathering them you're not double-soaking.
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>>719759534
>I used to play hots and I would always play as Abathur
Everybody loves these Abathur one trick ponies with 30% win rate
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>>719759718
I don't think you understand how fucking easy it is to tower dive, especially for guys like Zeratul who legitimately don't give a fuck about taking tower aggro
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>>719760180
If you lose to Zeratul, that's on you
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>>719759993
>Small globes are 1/4 value, if you're gathering them you're not double-soaking.
So will this rocket power us into an even harder double soak meta? When do these PTR changes usually go live?
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they should add in a little checkbox by the queue button that I can click to completely filter out all abathur players.
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>>719760283
i love how you niggers ignore the actual operative point being made to fixate on shit that's not important
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>>719760119
>>719760441
Knowing that people were seething because I was playing Abathur was part of the fun of playing him
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>>719758713
let me guess, the only other "moba" you have played is league of legends?
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honestly glad at least one dev is giving some love to this game, so many good memories from the alpha and beta days
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>>719760346
2-3 weeks
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>>719760607
No, in Dota 2 Broodmother was somewhat similar but not really the same
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>>719760605
>everyone is seething because i'm so epic!
I get mad when I have to go up against a 4,000 hour zeratul, illidan, valla. Nobody is seething because they see a useless abathur on the opposing team. the ONLY time you are ever any degree of a problem is if that 4,000 hour zeratul, illidan, valla ends up on your team you passively make them 30% harder to kill. in the extreme majority of cases you either result in an auto loss or essentially making the game a 4v4, because the queue system usually mirrors abathurs.
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>>719749492
I still believe
Had a break of 6 or so years and then I randomly found a twitch channel streaming it, joined their group and had a lot of fun
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>>719757990
WC3 still get balance updates
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if you still have shitwatch characters i ain't reinstalling your shit game blizzard
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>>719749606
i thought this thing was shut down desu
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>>719760605
>I ruin the game for 4 other people
>haha
>I'm so epic
What's the thought process here?
Show your actual win rate with Abathur, loser
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>>719761851
I got to platinum with nothing but ranked abathur
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>>719762082
sure bro
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When are Spyro and Arbiter coming to hots?
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>>719762686
shut the fuck up

we already have OC characters that aren't even in any Blizzard games
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>>719762686
Imagine the melty
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>>719762802
agreed, it's already fucked enough
>we already have OC characters that aren't even in any Blizzard games

>the goth loli and The Niggerress
my favorite characters
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>>719763113
The goth girl is alright but If I had the opportunity to remove BOTH, I'd do it.

HotS should be old school Blizzard only. Overshit characters are already pushing it
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>>719763374
You're not thinking about it the right way.
Hots is literally Super Blizzard Bros and it should be treated that way.
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>casualifying blackhearts bay because people don't know how to not run around and get rapeganked

Ass change but the rest might be fine. Dehaka nerfs are welcome.
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>I have returned.
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>>719763750
I've never seen this nigga alive for more than a minute
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>>719763549
I feel the complete opposite. I don't like any of the changes but blackhearts bay is ass and needs a rework. I don't like wasting 15 minutes of my life because the map design doesn't naturally funnel the monkeys on my team to the objective.
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>>719763750
cute
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Easiest hero to climb out of bronze 5?
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>>719764246
Jaina or Illidan are safe bets imo, easy to play, you wont get shit on by your teammates too much if you're solo laning or solo camping
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>>719764246
Genuinely, without irony, Illidan.
>waveclear
>camp soloing
>self sustain
>both ults are good for different things
>is countered by competent players which you won't find that low
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>>719764246
I didn't even know people played ranked.
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>>719764246
Heroes who are countered by team coordination
melee assassins are best when people don't focus them and some bruisers
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>>719764246
I have no idea how can you be stuck in B5. If you aren't trolling
>pick azmodan
>ungabunga splitpush all day
>ignore faggots crying about muh objective
It's b5 so they cant capitalize on the taken objective. If your team is not taking camps take one just before objective and go to another lane
just keep pushing forts
if the enemy dedicates one or two fags to stop you during an objective your team has an equal or better chance at winning the fight even if you die
oh and SOAK THE FUCKING XP ORBS
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>>719749492
I refuse to believe human beings actually play this piece of shit lmaooooo
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>>719764562
>t. filtered by talents
kwab
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>>719763846
I'll admit BHB was very hit or miss in terms of actual game quality because it's the least intuitive mixed with most different from normal gameplay type of map. Like it requires a very different skillset than bunga pushing a lane with azmodan. Often in my experience it's a stomp one way or another more than other maps but honestly that made it a nice change of pace from every map being cursed hollow.

Fair to hate it though, ngl.
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>>719764676
Hanamura is worse than BHB
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>>719764676
i'm just simply looking at it on a primal level. when I see blackheart I know the match is going to not be fun. so I hate it and I want the map gone.
I consider a stomp where we win to also not be fun.
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>>719749492
This shit will make split pushers even more cancer that Samuro maining faggot janitor can go fuck himself. Imagine the amount of cancer Nazeboo in QM is going to be...
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>>719764970
why?
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>>719765038
>minion change
Is the obvious one. Minion + hero pushes were buffed through the moon with that one.
>exp globe nerf
Is the 2nd. Now you genuinely need someone in each lane at a time or you will lose soak hard.
>merc change
Is the last one, but admittedly I cant tell if it will encourage splitting like the others.
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>>719764246
you can specialize in any gimmick play and get out of bronze if you do it well enough.
I don't suggest this though because you'll be stuck in silver hell instead.

Instead, I recommend heroes that can solo wave clear, camp clear, teamfight well by themself, like Malthael and Greymane
1. avoid 1v1 / non-objective skirmish forcus on staying alive in lane
2. quickly clear camp before obj timing so your merc can siege enemy defenses - this force the enemy to ignore the camp OR you get to 5v4 them at objective.

These 2 things should get you out of bronze very quickly if you're doing it right, and it's still the right thing to do in higher rank, most of the time.

3. when you're level 20 or above, glue yourself to the team. actively tell everyone to gather up, go as 5 all the time. there're some exception in some situations but most of the time it's just this.
4. push keep, get keep, then GO BACK. Don't hang around pointlesly. Don't try to steal their camp when they're looking for you. Low rank players do did VERY often for no good reasons.

good luck on your journey
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>>719765379
What's a good win rate?
With all these griefers, derankers and trolls it's so hard to get a high WR going.
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>>719764943
Agreed.
>>719764946
I agree with that too. Imo close BHB games are some of the best though, and the lessened ability to do huge coin ganks and stop the pays is unfortunately going to ruin that.

Also unrelated but aba has to be cooked by these xp orb changes no? They'll be gone before he can slug over to get em.
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when will they buff shitty builds for most heroes? pic rel is good offender outside of AA build the rest are niche af and fuck you over
>Q build
>miss Q once you're fucked
>E build
>by the time you got both quests it'll be end of match and barely provide your team the dps you need compared to other late game builds
>W build
>worthless
>Hybrid build
>meme half the time
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>>719765805
sex
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>>719764970
The more I think about it the more I agree. I haven't played hots in a minute but Samuro in qp has easily been the most cancerous shit in the entire game (aside from 5 stacks premade to wombo combo)

Valeera or Nova at their strongest were never even close to Samuro in the hands of a half-decent player today, No counterplay at all for 80% of the characters. His retarded cup and ball game gimmick isn't even a thing, because choosing "right" doesn't actually reward you - he just teleports and vanishes and runs away. The fact that they are nerfing Dehaka and not Samuro is obvious favoritism. FUCK fucking Samuro, after these xp changes it's going to be unplayable against pushfag samuros.
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>>719765938
whats wrong with samuro? he isnt particularly strong at killing other heroes as an assasin
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>>719765938
How do I play Samuro decently?
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I do only play HOTS when I got my ass banned in Overwatch. Each month.
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>>719765549
In solo QM, the game will force 50% WR on you extremely hard. you will not get more than ~55% unless you're at the very top of the player bracket. These kind of WR (picrel) is not really possible anymore. (I had like 66% WR on pre-rework Samuro. he was broken as fuck)

In Ranked, you will be above 50% when you're climbing and you will probably stay a bit above 50% when you're at your place. so there's not much to say
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>>719749492
I'd play the ever loving shit out of the game if it weren't for needing BattleNet bullshit. Kind of baffling how few other MOBAs did different levels n' shit.
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>>719766104
So I will need about a trillion games to climb out of the trash?
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>>719766065
I don't know the talents because I don't play him, but I know for a fact he can:

1. murder solo mages if they are far from their team or towers (with spinny ult tho idk if that's the best pick)
2. out-trade most characters in a 1v1 after a certain point, especially if they don't have cleave to hit all the clones (1/3 chance you do no actual damage
3. splitpush as effectively as any specialist and hit forts with impunity even without minions because clones
4. can outrun almost anyone except tracer/genji and a few others, or unless you full stun him from like 60% hp to 0% and kill him without a millisecond where he gets control of his character to tp away and vanish
5. heals all his health back after vanishing away, further dominating in qp games with no healers.

Like I said I don't play him, but I do play murky with a 60% qp wr, and it feels very similar in that you need to really push the limits on being an annoying faggot. Most people don't understand how to truly be annoying with the characters at 100% efficiency, though samuro is easily more dishonest and easier to play than murky who is actually countered by certain characters and sucks early game, unlike sam who is just mid early game. If a samuro player dies more than once a game they're genuinely dogshit. The good ones who main him with 500 levels will never die a single time over multiple games.

Again for >>719766065
I'll just say:
I learned Murky by getting assraped by a few really good ones and watching the replay and asking myself why they were doing what they were doing (a lot of decisions that are optimal look like trolling) samuro is the same way. Not to sound pretentious but it's very chess-like in that it's not about you doing the right move, but doing moves that limit your enemies moves. Optimal faggot making-their-life-hell decision making. No lane can be unguarded. No healer or mage can walk around alone or they die to octograb. All camps get stolen, etc.
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>>719766167
you'll climb fast if you manage to win hard matches and not throw easy matches.

This guy climb from Broze to GM every season :
https://www.youtube.com/@FanHOTS/videos
He get out of bronze to silver in just around 3 to 4 wins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN72CtR-bi0

It won't take long as long as you can win.
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>>719758846
This you? This happened back in March 2023 and I laughed so fucking hard I screenshot it
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>>719766587
Hi, I'm >>719766104
I'm so sorry kek
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>>719766694
Hows this legal
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I hope they never officially revive this game. Heroes is like a time capsule from before Blizzard fired all the based rapists and went full gaytard mode. It already started showing with the whole Nexus lore thing, when they started introducing literal LoL tier characters to appeal to that kind of demographic, instead of just using their oldschool designs, which was like, the entire point of the fucking game?

I mean they don't even have Samwise anymore, this game would totally be gayified even further if it ever got revived.
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>>719766694
No but I've shared my knowledge in /hotsg/ before and played with 1 anon from there together. Could be him if it's EU
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>>719766819
LOL all good bro. I get it, like I said I play a decent amount of murky lmao. But yeah playing against niggas with stats like pic related on the gayest characters in the game like zera/sam in qm is one of the few really shit things about hots. The game is still a gem though and for me the lack of constant balance bullshit is a plus, because I hate how other multiplayer games have to constantly ruin either good balance or characters I like and would rather have consistency than novelty.
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>>719766932
Nah this was on NA, clearly getting a following though
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>>719766694
Whipe Shartness
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>>719749492
>Deckard Cain doesn't receive eight million buffs
how dare they not give my geriatric main more oomph
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>>719766981
What's so good about Zera?
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>>719767341
For me it's just another useless invi pussy hero just like Nova and Valeera
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>>719749492
I'd honestly give this a try again if they ever take it to Steam
I'm not installing a whole ass launcher (spyware) just to play 1-2 game bruh
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>>719767567
Gayben really has steamsisters by the balls huh
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>>719767635
yeah that and not the fact that the steam app is so much fucking better than any of its competitors
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>>719767704
lmao no it isn't it's just a fucking app, kys asslicker
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>>719767635
I love Gay Ben more than I love my wife
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>>719767704
>electron bloatslop
>so much fucking better than any of its competitors
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What heroes would you like to see in this game (in a parallel universe where they still made content updates for this game)?
I'd like
>Lady Vashj
>Magtheridon
>Baal
>Diablo 2 Assassin
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I forever left the game after they started getting the overwatch characters in. They are simply too annoying to deal with. Its was not fun anymore regardless if i outplayed them or not
A shame because it was a legit fun game and on average it did not take forever to end unlike other mobas
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>>719767881
Baal
More hot blonde knife ears, don't even care who
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>>719767745
Name one (1) that has more features and runs better than Steam.
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>>719749492
The best moba out there, managed by the worst company with shittiest auto ban system one could imagine which in the end only made matching worse.
I'm glad its dead.
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>>719767947
Epic
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>>719767973
name another ASSFAGGOTS with more free speech
people are discussing openly saying nigger in game with proof and no bans
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>>719767881
Baal
Tosh
Denathrius
Akama
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>>719767947
It's an app that launches my video game. Beyond that I couldn't care less. If you have to make up excuses to not play video games then maybe you don't want to play video games to begin with. End your life tribal niggerfaggot.
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>>719767979
0/10 bait
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>>719767881
if they started making characters again it would mostly be modern stuff to promote the new games and content. Lilith and Juno would be cool, maybe wheelchair khadgar would be funny. but everything else would suck.
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>>719749492
H OMEGALUL TS
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>>719767881
>>719767881
Blackthorne
Magtha
Tosh
Elisande
Inkeeper
J'lor
Velen KJ and Archimonde
Bwoansamdi
Orisa
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>>719768065
sorry
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>>719766897
based blizz game
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>>719768014
Wish it was true, got permabanned 3 times, that system just counts reports and automatically bans you after you reach certain (daily) treshold. You don't even have to say nigger if people mass report you on general chat, you're out.
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>>719767341
1. he can deal damage/kill a hero we want to kill, bypass a lot of protection from any other teammates
2. very strong after 20, can 1v1 almost any heroes (if the he's not stupid/choke)
3. doesn't need that much support, but really good with proper support.

He's not easy to understand though. sometimes, the right move is to just watch your one of your teammate dies without doing anything. it's that kind of hero.
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>>719768051
Of course only a nigger with so standard like you would still be playing this game, keep enjoying your Blizzslop faggot
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>>719768225
in hots? what are you doing to earn reports so fast?
>general chat
yeah thats playing with fire
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>>719768226
>2. very strong after 20
that's my main complaint with zera. whereas like nova and valeera fall off hard after 20 zeratul turns into a killing machine even more so than he already is and if you don't have one of his counters on the field he may as well be playing with cheat codes on.
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>>719768309
>and if you don't have one of his counters on the field
Like what?
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>>719767881
Millhouse Manastorm
Prophet Skeram
Lei Shen
The August Celestials (any)
The rest of the Dragon Aspects
Diablo Druid
Moar Starcraft units (they're kino)
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Considered getting back into the game again after jumping ship in 2017 after their 2.0 ‘update’. Are Arthas, Jaina, Muradain, Sonja and/or Tassadar still playable?
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>>719768331
someone that can just hold him down for a kill.
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>>719767341
He can 1v1 just about any target he wants to go on in the late game and is so fucking slippery that he's almost perfectly safe while doing it. The guy whom you're going on needs to have hard CC that other teammates can chain off of in order to stop you from moving how you want
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>someone that can just hold him down for a kill.
Like what?
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>>719768331
instant hard CC or on target armor
uther can fuck zeratul if he's smart enough to sit next to his squishies
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>>719768363
>arthas
situationally good
>jaina
as good as ever
>mura
still a menace offtank
>sonja
ate some nerfs but can still spin 2 win just not as popular as before
>tassadar
got the fattest buffs and a nutty rework so he's not one of the best picks
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>>719767881
Baal
Izual
Lazarus
Andariel
Leeroy Jenkins
Tirion Fordring
Hakkar
Lord Kazzak
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>>719768309
yeah agree. I hate zera so much for that too.
0 hard quests, 0 investment. hit level 20 and become monster it's just so stupid.
And the worst part is, a lot people don't know that. Some Artanis think they're a gigachad because they built for 1v1, run himself into zera at level 21, dies, zera only lose about 30% HP, then lose the game.
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>>719768363
Tassadar got upgraded from a shield support to damage dealing assassin. The plasma shield was replaced by a laser line that can do MASSIVE damage with a level 1 quest talent and a % damage talent at 16.
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>>719749492
>not dropping all your coins on death
holy fucking cringe
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>>719751215
Dehaka is really strong, he can clear sidelanes while being available for whatever teamfights, and is more useful for a team than Failstad. With this change, if you wait 2 waves to get all Globes the CD is effectively 70s, so it seems to encourage him to be more of a laner than simply roaming all the time. What I'm curious about is the lvl20 because if it just drops the base CD to 50 then he can teleport after every wave which is dope.
>>719752313
Seems like cancer when trying to snipe people running behind gates with Azmodunk or Greymane bottles, and having the buffs on the Core seems kinda gay, but it seems like they want people to be more intentional about attacking and defending Forts rather than letting camps and minions do all the work. As for the HP and minion tweaks, Zag/Hammer/Raynor/Azmodan/Sylvanas will probably like them, while Xul/Abathur and a lot of mages will be less pleased.
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>>719768548
Sonya gets raped by Malganis on most occasions
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>>719768264
If you play a lot of ranked matches with randoms and these randoms up to master are... least say... low quality trolls, it's really easy to reach daily limit.

Damn I loved retards instant locking murky or abathur on late diamond only to lose within few minutes. Good times.
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>>719767881
A zergling swarm that acts as something like a mix of Murky and Lost Vikings, each individual is very expendable and can operate somewhat on their own, or you can mob up to be a melee blender but be very vulnerable to AoE.
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Should I re-download this game?
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>>719769163
No, it's rage bait, forsaken by activision.
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>>719768363
Tas got a rework, he's a generic unga bunga caster instead of shieldbot now. Arthas got buffed. The rest are mostly the same.
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>>719769340
Wish the team didn't get kneecapped before arthas got his rework
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How's probius doing
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>>719768575
You can uninstall Zeratul.exe with Alarak in literally 1 second also he gets countered hard by any high hp hero
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>>719769562
lots of smaller changes that have made him way stronger overall, still limited by being a squishy zoner
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>>719769625
Lava wave is an efficient way to clear creeps but out of all siege heroes, imo, he's the worst.
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Is there anything more chad than doing ranked games with 2 of your friends and playing chogall + abathur and always being together?
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>>719767881
Blackthorne (liked his game)
Gabriel Tosh (he's based, also we need actual Terran Psionics)
Vorazun (cool scythes, also Protoss need a support)
Overmind (waifu, could have neat Old God skins)
Diablo 2 Sorceress (playing with Hydras and multiple elements)
Baal (we need the Prime trio)
Itherael (cool teleporty is the last Archangel remaining)
Lady Vashj (not much Water magic, plus she's a snek archer, c'mon)
>>719769625
Constantly surprises me with his survivability and damage, Molten Core is a gamechanger, and both his ults are useful. Pretty reliable but kinda sucks at 1v1 and has poor mobility so you should be careful.
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>>719770237
>Diablo 2 Sorceress
already a skin for Li-Ming, the alternative would be the Sorcerer from Diablo 1
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>>719749606
I am still waiting for a Steam release, if they do it I'll go back, I simply don't feel like re-instealling Blizzard's client
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>I am still waiting for a Steam release
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>>719770589
If they ever add it on.steam it would still require battle.net login
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>>719769163
Yeah nigga play with me
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>>719770968
do overwatch and diablo? if so that didn't deter 50k people a day from playing overwatch on steam
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What rank do I start playing tanks?
I really want to, diablo, garrsoh are real fun, but teammates are too dumb, I end up playing self-sufficient heroes to carry games rn. Gold atm
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>>719749492
I genuinely thought they shut the game down.
It was skeleton crew and virtually impossible to find a game when I last played it, during maintenance for WoW Classic (Vanilla).
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>>719749492
that means a patch is coming for us right sc bros
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>>719771252
Come to yurop, my queue times are 30-50 seconds for quick match, 80-100 seconds for ranked. Game is very playable.
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>>719749492
>HOTS bros
Do they exist?
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>>719767881
Baal
Lady Vashj
D2 Druid
Mannoroth
Akama
Cenarius
Ysera
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>>719772358 (me)
oh yeah and a Naga Myrmidon character
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>>719772358
how would Cenarius be different than Malfurion?
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>>719772403
Myrmidon-san, forgive me...
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>>719772592
just copy NP from dota
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>>719751886
Ana is absolutely not fine.
She actually requires aiming unlike the absolute majority of the other ones, but it's hard to think of a healer who is a bigger pain in the balls when played by someone who can actually use her kit.
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>>719773532
>but it's hard to think of a healer who is a bigger pain in the balls when played by someone who can actually use her kit.

Brightwing
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>>719773774
...OK you know what, fair.
Especially since polymorph is retarded strong and requires zero aiming.
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>>719773532
there was a period where lucio was gigabuffed and he was in every GM game 24/7 perma harrassing while being unpunishable. I think that's the most obnoxious a healer has ever been in hots
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>>719774000
because polymorph stops auto attack, slows, and prevents spellcasting, its de-facto a ranged point and click stun
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>>719774110
Was that right on release?
I started playing RIGHT when he was released actually, but back then I played at... sub Bronze ranks not that I got much better desu so I don't think I got to see him at his full power, ever.

>>719774425
It's one of those few things that can reliably help against Genji/Tracer cancer, I love it.
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>>719774568
Nah, it wasn't on release. Release Lucio was just a healing aura. This was pretty soon after they reworked his talents and gave him a ton of offensive talents/movespeed options, and the dash on D.
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I saved my team from a wipe once by using Wrath of the Angiris on a dva bomb
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>>719768264
playing with russians, mostly
I never got perma'd, but eating random bans every couple of weeks got annoying so I quit
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Am still praying it goes on steam, no way I use their shitty launcher
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these changes don't affect me at all because i cheese structures with li-ming archon from 50 lightyears away
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>>719775448
Have you tried not being an unpleasant nigger?
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>>719758143
>Oh you jerk off? Brightwing jerk off too! UHHH UHH
wtf am i reading
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>>719758143
lmao
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>>719749492
Fans of this game make the LoLtards and DotArds look sane in comparison.
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>>719777685
general chat of a game unwatched by its devs
Total war shogun 2 also had something like it before CA threw a melty and destroyed it years after they had stopped actually giving a fuck about shogun 2
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>>719777498
tell that to the russians

I barely even talked man, blizzards report system is just ass and punishes you for playing too much
hell at one point I got my name changed only because too many russoids reported me for it; a name I used for like 10 years on the platform and isn't even a word or anything really
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>>719761851
>What's the thought process here?
MOBA gameplay at its core is to make the enemy team seethe. If you can't achieve that, your next goal is to make your team seethe.
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>>719778440
and that's why you play murky, achieve both at the same time
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>>719767881
Cyberhawk
Khadgar (Legion version)
Zoltun Kulle
Enaara
Doesn't make any sense, but would be really nice to see Runas The Shamed again
Kiriko
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>>719758070
They moved everyone to the remaster and that one has skins.
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>tfw another enemy team with hard cc
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>>719768586
>>719769340
>Tas no longer a shield supporting nascar
Fuck, he was my favourite character to play because of that and was the only one of those listed 5 I took beyond Level 10. Is he still at least fun?
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>>719779471
Tassadar can be an absolute menace with his basic attack that slows enemies and the force wall that he can summon to block paths.
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>>719779471
Yes, he's an artillery mage with a void ray beam for his right click. Q is a line target nuke that drags a lightning beam in a straight line away from him, W is still psi-storm but it deals more damage the longer someone is in it, E is force wall that summons a decent sized wall for a couple seconds perpendicular to tass, and his ults are archon form and black hole that shoots out a slow moving AoE in a straight line that drags people towards the center and stuns them if they touch it.
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>>719778624
I don't see Khadgar not being a Medivh skin desu
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>>719749606
mostly just balance patches and tweaks no new content though sadly which is a shame its a much better moba then LOL or dota if you want to actually have fun and not get cancer
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>>719749492
All the changes are bad
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>>719767881
Azshara and Xal'atath
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>Punishers will no longer leap over gates.
sovlless
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>>719749492
they nerfed cho in one of the recent patches so im not playing it anymore
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>>719780174
What about The War Within Khadgar then?
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>>719780657
>Xal'atath
But in bune form
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>>719766909
>I mean they don't even have Samwise anymore, this game would totally be gayified even further if it ever got revived.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74B2cThC5P4

Man, I miss those years...
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>>719780790
What the ungodly lasphemy are these bedroom eyes?
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>>719749492
Are they finally removing overwatch characters, nu WoW characters like Anduin, adding solo xp, denials, gold and items purchase, making the gameplay like wc3 with turn rate, blocks, etc?
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>>719781019
>adding solo xp, denials, gold and items purchase
Go back to Dota.
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>>719781075
It's called wc3 you disgusting troon
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>are they finally making DotA?
No because based Gaben fucked them over.
I'm glad all 3 assfaggots exist. DotA is by far the most entertaining e-sports, HotS is the most (the only) fun game in the genre, and LoL gave us Arcane.
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>>719765805
>W build
>worthless
Big dick numbers a fun though.
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>your core is exposed
>your enemy hit level 20
>all of them dissappear from minimap
>enemy's boss camp is back up
>your team, level 19, gather up to contest your enemy

>music play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5UvROjr7_Y
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>>719781885
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yn1r3IxJc8&t=391
>it's towers of doom
>the enemy has captured ALL shrines and are firing on your core
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>>719778624
i stopped playing when they removed lili's double blind
have they buffed her at all?
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>>719770589
>re-instealing
have you ever tried just not being black?
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>>719782506
She still can unload shitloads of damage, but it's nowhere near as fun as double blind.
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god i loved hots a few years back. doing stupid shit with friends like 3 headed giant chogal abuthur combo or terrorizing as murky since his kit was stupid busted.
nothing felt as fun as popping in the back line and slapping a bitch to death as abuthur
shame vikings were such shit, they be my favorite bliz property
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>no one talking about the actual balance changes
>you can now dive with no punishment
>bases are easier to kill
what the fuck are they thinking
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>>719782897
>no punishment
there already barely was punishment for the heroes who do fuck you up under tower. Getting 50 armor and slowing them is going to do much more to stop any assassin than them getting shot once by the fort will
>bases are easier to kill
they're easier to push with creeps, they're more resilient against solo pushing and objectives because they got a large hp increase, we'll have to see how that actually plays out if it even keeps people in lanes or if rushing objective is still worth more
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>>719780782
Not so fast chuddie

>white male before kween Eraleshk
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>>719783114
>that wheelchair
how is it even possible to model something so poorly? I could never let myself submit something so sloppy. I know literally nothing about modeling or how to use blender but i'm sure I could open up blender and by the end of the day have made something better purely because I simply cannot half ass something to that degree.
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>>719783332
i'm 99% sure i saw drek'thar using that same chair
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>>719780790
a rabbit is fine too
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>>719749492
unc is capping shiz ain no coming back og
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>>719763750
>
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>>719767881
Mengsk, Vashj, a Cerebrate since Alterac fucks any chance of Overmind core replacer, Hearthstones Innkeeper, the robot monk from OW, Gallywax, Kowalski & Magellan.
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>>719766909
Also helped by the fact the HotS forums on Blizz site being the 2.0 version of the 2000s WoW forums with the game’s moderators engaging with the playerbase and occasionally jumping into games with us. You could tell they really gave a shit about the game and watching what it became after the 2.0 “update” introducing all the Overwatch bullshit and them all leaving one by one was sad.
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>>719779065
made for big indian penis
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>>719784784
Pretend Protoss.
A clanker.
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>>719763549
>Dehaka nerfs are welcome.
>Nerfs
His 20 is now basically letting dehaka burrow around the map becaus 1 globe resets his CD.
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>>719783332
they removed a lot of talent from company due to bad reputation, this looks like some work of associate 3d model artist with pronouns
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>>719761851
i don't play to win, i play to make others lose
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>>719768309
to be fair, zera pre-16 is pretty weak and sits in the background alot, only occasionally going after a running weakling.
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>>719767881
Darion Mograine because I want a non tank DK.

Putress because we don't have any forsaken representation at all.
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>>719768747
well duh she's a dive character and Mal is the greatest disruption tank. He thrives with niggas trying to be sticky with him.
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>>719790372
>we don't have any forsaken representation at all.
sylvanas
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>>719790836
I meant to add besides her, but I fucking hate slyvanas. Turned her back on her people like 3 different times.
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>>719767881
Should be Mannoroth, not Magtheridon.
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>>719784784
Never ever



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