Bungie’s ‘golden age’ wasn’t quality, it was circumstance. They always dropped their games into ecosystems where they were mostly people’s first. Pathways on Mac, Halo on Xbox, Destiny at the advent of live service. They didn’t outclass competition, they benefited from lack of it. Halo wouldn’t even crack top 100 if it launched on PC alone. That's why new halo games are shit. Not because quality declined with time, but because it's no longer launching on a new platform with zero competition, and it just can't hold up when it actually has to compete against the rest of the industry on an established paltform.
faggot
Based and truthpilled. Fuck Bungie
What's that Plank? Plank says FPS games are for midwits with no inner monologue.
>>719796987>Halo wouldn’t even crack top 100 if it launched on PC alone.yeah no shit retard, nobody played on PC back in 2001
>>719797369>Inner monologue.Meanwhile inside my head.
You can't name one game thats better technically than halo on PC in 2001
>>719797386Nice cope but you know that's not what I meant.Also seemed to work out just fine for Half-Life, but then again, Half-Life wasn't shit unlike Halo. >>719797547Red Faction.
>>719797547StarCraft Brood Wars
>>719797547Who is this faggot? Red Faction had all the technical capabilities Halo did AND it had destructible environments and light/shadow mechanics with breakable lights.
>>719797614>Red Faction.looks worse, sounds worse, more smaller levels and worse AItry again
>>719797828I'm objectively correct and that will do. I'm not apeasing your retarded fanboyism, I'm sorry Bungie cock is lodged so deep down your throat that it's become fused to your intestines, but that's not my problem.>>719797386>Nobody placed FPS games on the platform most known for it.Do we have double retards or is this a samefag?
Every Halo game is the same.
>>719797369https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/lg6xNcuCN1TPdtMK8fpbDQ/Lol. Lmao even. Fag.
The people who hate Halo are the ones who never had friends to play it with.
>>719799136A game that's good with friends isn't a good game, it's a game with good friends.Thank you for admitting Halo was shit and friends are needed to make it good.
>>719797995>no argument just replies with nuh uh im rightlmao childish behavior
>>719799271>wow you think football is a good sport? You need others to play with! Chess? You need people! Only ball n cup is good cause im a loner!
>>719799136>>719799271Making friends on halo is easy
>>719796987Halo? More like GAYLO
>>719798134Halo 1-3? sure.
>>719796987Retard. A shitty port decades later in a more competitive market did a lot better than "crack top 100"
>>719797995>FPS games on the platform most known for it.consoles?
>>719799271If you had friends, you'd know how dumb this is.
>>719800215
>>719799737For most people.
>>719796987>Bungie’s ‘golden age’ wasn’t quality, it was circumstance.But Halo 1 is a quality game, retard
>>719800635>>719799445Just because you don't accept the truth doesn't make it any less true.>>719799557And then this ESL is just having a stroke.>>719799737People tend to easily come together when the game is shit.>>719800283>>719797386>on PCHe said on PC you retarded fucking nigger.>>719800936Objectively wrong.
>>719801551You seem upset.
>>719796987Nah, they just needed tardwranglers. Much like you.
>>719801551No, when the game is shit people tend to leave and go find a better one. Forget about the truth. You can't even grasp logic.
>>719796987>20+ years later and people are still seething about Halolel
>>719801761Says the dude absolutely triggered someone didn't like his mediocre slopfest.>>719802042>No, when the game is shit people tend to leave and go find a better one.For someone accusing others of having no friends you sure seem to not know what happens when you have them
>>719803567See>>719801761
>>719803567The problem is that my point about people preferring good games makes sense, so when you try to "no u" me and just say the opposite, that people actually prefer bad games, you sound 100% retarded and give yourself away.
>>719803915see>>719803567
>>719804173>The problem is that my pointThe problem is you have no point, you think you can win against facts just by liking slop, that's not how it works.
>>719796987halo 2 is one of the most historical video games launches in history and it was wasn't launched on a fresh console and was the game that actually popularized live service (besides chromehounds and pandora tomorrow/chaos theory).t. guy who was actually alive and remembers the giga lines, then endless fun, the xbox live parties, the only ever good matchmaking service ever ran, among other highlights.
>>719796987Daily halo seethe thread from a retard.
>>719799136Bullshit. Me and the bros played the good shit back in the day. The good FPSs before gaylo fucked everything up. It wasn't fun because you had friends, it was fun because you were a child and grew with an inferior product believing it was the best shit ever.
>>719796987You only say this because you're an underage faggot whose first exposure to Halo was 4 or 5.Save the board and rope.
Name a better splitscreen game than Halo RIGH NOW
>>719804304>halo 2 is one of the most historical video games launches in history>historical in historyThe average IQ of a Halo slopper.
>>719804304>halo 2 is one of the most historical video games launches in historyIt was a regional success, not a global success, so no, not in history, just in your run on the week, and I guarantee you I'm older than you are.
>>719800141No, all of them. The only difference is a little gimmick attached to each one, but it's the same shit underneath. Always.
>>719804301The only fact I need to win is the fact that your post makes no sense.
>>719805337>The only fact I needYou don't have any. And apparently you don't have reading comprehension either.
you are making it very obvious that you're baitingyou should stop
>>719804957>bro its only successful in the greatest country in the world and not poor third world countries
>>719804493>I'm too scared to name the "good FPSs" btw
>>719804957Sure, in the western world where it actually matters
>>719805661It doesn't matter what game is mentioned, Halofags will do mental gymnastics to say that it's actually bad.
>>719805576>ree stop telling the truth it's bait.>>719805631>>719805767Now this is just desperation.
>>719796987>Halo wouldn’t even crack top 100 if it launched on PC alone.That's because PCfags are 90% retards who play MMOs and other garbage.
>>719805661>>719805783>Don't get your sperging acknowleged>>Bawww why won't you list any>Get your sperging acknowledged>>Nonono this is why it doesn't count>>719805937Like this inbred cunt.
>>719805883good job for admitting that you're baiting
>>719805783Well that was easy
>>719796987Isn’t there some kind of link between autism and obsessing over the past? There’s always vidya threads seething about games from 20+ years ago.
I feel bad for this poor little faggot...halochads mindbroke him.
>>719796987Based, hope the Halo remake is forced to learn from classic FPS games and stop being casualized baby shit while bringing back the old health system of Halo CE and keeping it this time instead of throwing it out for an inferior one in the sequel.
>>719809058It's still going to be a console game designed for people who have played Halo and other console FPS before. It won't be good.
>>719798134Agreed, the game has you fighting the same damn enemies you've been fighting since Halo 1, there hasn't been a great change, just a name change for the enemies. It's a wonder this series died when other series knew to replace the old enemies completely.
>>719809238I don't know, Microsoft is moving back towards PC, Xbox has lost influence, PlayStation has lost influence, Nintendo and PC gaming have regained influence. Halo can't take from Halo 2 or COD anymore. If it's trying to emulate the power fantasy of old FPS games, it needs to make the jump towards being inspired heavily by old FPS games. Halo's era is over.
>>719796987Correct, bungie has always sucked, halo was always dogshit.
>>719809527>Halo can't take from Halo 2 or COD anymoreSays you? You say that like Halo has been in competent hands for the past 15 years.
>>719796987The success and decline of Halo is just a retelling of the arena shooter genre but for consoles. They were the one of the earliest to do fps well for the market, but eventually other franchises and subgenres started gaining popularity. You can't innovate the simple arena shooter model game after game without alienating your existing fanbase, and trying to copy others and chase trends just makes you a worse version of those games. Bungie left at the perfect time, but you can still see the beginning of the fall in Reach's garbage multiplayer with armor abilities and hitscan weapons.
>>719796987Halo CE is an extremely competent and fun game especially for 2001 and still is to this day. No amount of seething changes this fact
Cope faggot
>>719809336And that's a good thing. Halo's enemies are great. The first thing 343 did was try to add a new faction, and they paled in comparison.
>>719809058retarded CEbab
>>719796987TLDR. Bungies Halo are some of the best games ever made.
>>719810151Halo's enemies are fun, but there hasn't been any meaningful addition to that roster since Halo 2. Arguably ODST if you want to include the Engineers that appear like 8 times total.It's boring.
>>719796987Threads like these are really weird to me if I view them in a temporal sense;; Halo CE came out about 24 years ago - are you in your 40's? Or are you some Gen Z/Alpha guy that's just imitating some other guy who in turn was imitating yet another guy in an infinite feedback loop?
>>719810368I'm in my 30s and I like to be hyperbolic with my criticisms toward Halo because I know exactly what to say to make Halo fans freak out.
>>719810368kinda fucked up when you really think about how long 4chan has lasted to where a lot of shitposting doesn't really make much sense anymorelike if someone is making a thread yelling about how Chrono Trigger actually sucks (this game came out 3 decades ago) I'm genuinely curious who's the actual demographic making those kinds of threads
>>719810368That’s exactly why these threads that exist to only shitpost about old games is so weird to me. Either it’s someone 35+ that is just a failure at life, or it’s a kid with nothing better to do at the moment.
>>719810307Nah, with all the changes they made to Brutes in Halo 3, I don't think you can call them the same enemy from Halo 2.
>>719810665Even funnier when you see someone in the present day still trying to fight Nintendo vs. Sega wars, they're either legitimately 40+ years old or they're an underage doing advanced larping
>>719810878They're just worse Elites in 3, at the cost of Brutes.
>>719796987faggot>>719797260also a faggot
>>719809665Halo 2 gave us regenerative health, that's enough to throw it in the trash bin where it belongs.
>>719810307Wait I forgot they added Scarabs as an actual enemy in 3, not just a scripted set piece. Those were cool fights.
Halo CE has soulful design from start to finish, you pleb.
>>719810151For one thing, they didn't really add a new faction, they just threw out Sentinels for a shitty robot replacement no one asked for. The Covenant were dead, why were they back. They went with Forerunners but only one living Forerunner appeared and you didn't even fight him, just some shitty AAA COD QTE finish. It was trash. Hope the Endless finally changes things up for this series in 2027.
>>719811340Yeah, you're right. For 2 games before dropping them. Anything cool added is dropped in the very next game. Even Halo 2's Drones and Brutes were pretty much dropped right away. The only mainstay has been the rifle Jackals.
Halo is the reason people bought the Xbox retard not the other way around
>>719810192Only decent game in the series
>>719804957>it was only successful in the only country that matters and not goatfuckistan
>>719810192>CE bab>First game in the series>Nearly 25 years agoThat's like calling someone an Atari bab when /v/ was new
Nah the OG trilogy+ODST were solid games. Reach mid, everything else is a dumpster fire. Didn't read OP don't care.
>>719804957Not only that, it never rivaled anything on PC, Nintendo, nor even PlayStation, it's the only game that didn't shit itself on Xbox that Microsoft forced it until it killed Halo, Bungie, Xbox, and themselves with it. Halo did nothing other FPS games already did and better. Only thing Halo did was bring in a different kind of normalfag into the equation that the PlayStation already brought in.
>make the blandest sci-fi universe of all time>somehow make power armor seem uncool>everything kind of looks like a Bionicle>your main character is some guy called "Chief"I genuinely never got it. I mean, it's alright, but who needs Halo when you have something actually sick like Warhammer 40K, or even Star Wars? Hell, even the Star Trek universe is cooler, and there's an FPS where you can play as a Klingon, which is immediately more badass than Master Chief.
>>719810708>35+You would have to be mid fucking 40s to have OPs "take" without any irony or baiting
>adding global age verification to use this place>keep things as they arepick one
>>719811842>somehow make power armor seem uncoolHalo? Are you for real?
>>719811927Age verification is a slippery slope.
>>719811971He looks like a dork in a paintball mask.
>>719811927I'll take age verification if it results in filtering out all the shitI won't submit to the verification or post here anymore but the site would be more readable
>>719796987>OP is a sony fag for sureJust because you had no friends to play with back on your ps3 doesnt mean other didnt have a great time!Halo 3 multiplayer was so based and fun, dubs prove it.
>>719812121Literally every FPS is fun to play with friends.
>>719811842>>719811971>40K,Star Wars and Star Trek>>>>>>>>>>>>>coolDon't take xer seriously
>>719811385The Prometheans were way different than the Sentinels. They share what, one floating unit?You are right about Halo 4 sucking though.
If it's not some elaborate troll, then I must say that FPSfags have always came across to me as being one of the most autistic demographics that people really don't talk about, as in you have people that are rapidly approaching 50 years old and they're still hopping mad about crusty old games like Halo as if it came out yesterday.
>>719812208Explain what is cool about any of the soft, plasticcy, candy colored designs in Halo.Explain how that's cooler than a Mandolorian, or the Borg.
>>719811927I'll do you one better>India Israel and South America all blocked>All mobile support is blocked
>>719811927I'll take age verification for online slop video games like Halo while leaving places like this alone.
>>719812324Throw in Canadians and you fix the site.
>>719796987Still have yet to play an FPS with as high a skill ceiling as halo. 1v1 in that game almost felt like playing a fighting game. Now zoomers are complaining about TTK being too high if its 5 milliseconds instead of 1.
>>719812261They removed the Sentinels for them, Prometheans sucked complete ass, they couldn't even get rid of the Covenant. Prometheans didn't even feel like they were made by the Forerunners.
>>719812301Sure, there are forms of autism you can kind of get away with. "Man things" basically. Cars, guns, and the military. No one wants to tell these people they're one step removed from Sonic or Pokemon obsessives, because there's this facade of badass masculinity there.
>>719812301It's a troll. This >>719812340 should clue you in.The moment you derail OPs thread, he shits himself.
>>719812034He looks cool
>>719812324>>719812426>Australians are no longer considered the top shitposters anymoreWhat happened?
>>719812208Star Wars is pretty cool if you get away from EU glup shitto stuff >>719812318Mandalorians are cool. Nothing in Star Trek is cool faggot
>>719812643Indians started to populate the Internet at an alarming rate.Jewish shills pushing whatever bullshit of the month.BRs getting access to phones.
>>719812643Indians
Indians hate Halo because they see themselves in the grunts
>>719811842>Warhammer 40Kmogged by starcraft
>>719796987Half true. While there is definitely merit in your assessment and a factor of truth to it, I think credit should be given to how "golden age" bungie wasn't just always first to a market niche, they would also write the playbook for other studios to follow and eventually replicate with greater success.Halo wrote the playbook for how console shooters should be developed, hell Halo 3 wrote the playbook over how a successful live service shooter SHOULD approach how to engage with a community and how that community engages with each other. The DNA that allows games like Fortnite or Roblox to become the monoliths that they are in the industry can have it's design lineage traced back to how Halo approached custom games, forge mode, and file sharing. The entire concept that Roblox is built around of it's own community creating the games and content it's community plays is just a more fully realization of those community systems from Halo 3.Bungie nowadays is in a similar position to Bethesda. True pioneers in the market niches their studios were able to stake their claims on, but once more competition was able to match and eventually surpass these studios within their market niche they begun to fade from the limelight.For a time, Bungie did outclass it's competition. Destiny wrote the playbook on how a live service looter shooter should work, and for years everyone was failing to make anything that could truly compete with it (it's arguable that nothing yet has still come out and do what Destiny does specifically better than Destiny.) Bungie's downfall was that despite having such a massive lead over their competition they failed to carry that momentum to ensure that they stay ahead.Rockstar would be a good example of a studio that hit a market niche first and managed to keep its lead and dominance. Even in an era where open world games are a dime-a-dozen on the market, no one has outdone Rockstar at what Rockstar does best.
>>719812608I just entered the thread, you nigger faggot. I'm not the OP.
>>719813134>Rockstar would be a good example of a studio that hit a market niche first and managed to keep its lead and dominanceFor how long?
>>719812643Aussies are the white man's shit poster but they do it in jest. South Americans and Indians are legitimately sub 80 IQ monkeys who believe the bullshit they post
>>719796987Trvke. Just like shitty gaming webcomics around the turn of the millennium, it was mediocrity first on the scene and latched on by baby ducks.
>>719811842Maybe they like the GAME for its GAMEPLAY?
>>719812749Klingons, Cardassians, Jem'Hadar, Q, Borg, and Romulans are cool.Halo is just "hoo-rah" Bush era American military sludge in space.
>>719813565>baby ducks.Why have I been seeing this all over /g/ too
>>719813134Cucktard games have always been terribly designed on terrible technology liked only by brown 14 year old edgelord wannabe gangsters from broken homes, the only audience dumb enough to fall for such blatant exploitation slop.
>>719813659What gameplay?
>>719812318Bro you are not seriously complaining about colors in Halo while lauding Star Trek, with its color coded pajama ass uniforms. No way.
>>719813687I will never forgive Bungie for turning Halo into the War on Terror in space after Halo CE.
>>719813468If the rumors of GTA6 having a budget surpassing over a billion dollars at this point are true, likely forever. Rockstar flirted with other game genres in the twilight of the 360 era like with Max Payne 3, found that they just couldn't cut it and went back into their lane where they have only reinvested into it over like 15 years at this point.I just don't think there is any other studio or publisher on the market willing to make a bet against Rockstar when at this point they have dev teams the size of small towns working on their 1 game per console generation. I feel like it's up to Rockstar to catastrophically fuck up probably 2-3 titles in a row before their market dominance could be realistically challenged. That's just the perk of being the creators of the most financially profitable piece of media ever created in human history. It's hard to challenge a studio with literally infinite money.
>>719813832The Federation are supposed to be kind of nerds. Even the "cool" stuff in Halo looks like a bunch of nerds. That's the difference.
>>719813687No you retard it's fucking space vietnam with aliens.
Even all the sci-fi people are jerking off in here are old as fuck, is there genuinely nothing new being made anymore?
>>719813941That's lame and reductive for a sci-fi universe.You can do anything, and you make the main human faction basically just America in space.It's sci-fi for people who don't like sci-if.
>>719814010No. Halo ruined it.
>>719813780Play it and find out.
bring back REAL firefight mode.
>>719812643Irish and canadians, then danish people are the new flavour of the month on shitposting.
>>719813709See now, I would personally agree with you, as I have not personally enjoyed fully playing and actually completing a Rockstar game since Bully on the PS2. I personally don't care for the structure and controls that rockstar games have been following since GTA4. However, I do have to give credit that their titles have a level of polish and attention to detail that is unique wholly to Rockstar as a studio, so it's understandable how they were able to cultivate such a large audience that are looking for that type of borderline "casual" life-sim that they produce. I'm ok with not every game not appealing to me personally. I'll simply not play them.
How would society change if the people that still get filtered and upset over fucking Halo of all games in 2025 suddenly died of heart disease?
>>719814056You're retarded, I simplified it for your smooth brain. You understand Starship Troopers? You understand Alien and Predator? Its inspired by stuff like that, and also partially designed by Japanese stuff.
>>719814327I'm sorry you came late to the FPS party, and haven't even played Quake.
>>719810368What really sells is is the way that /v/ has been very steadily losing population for years, it only raises more questions as to what the actual endgame is
>>719814368it makes all of that stuff lame.The mech suits in SST had mounted missile launchers and stuff.
>>719813687>kardashians Lol
>>719796987why do you make so many threads seething about it tranny
>>719813882They only need one, if GTA 6 fails, it's over for AAA and this could be the first $100-$200 video game. I'm going to pray that it cost this much to kill the AAA industry. It's time.
>>719813896And the enemies in Halo are supposed to be easily readable even if you're playing on a shitty CRT with the screen split in half.
>>719813869It’s war on terror in space but the aliens are the Americans invading at the behest of the space Jews
>>719814184I did, that's why I asked
>>719814443If you want to collect more accurate data you should extend your search out to probably a decade. COVID would have naturally lead to a spike in users when everyone was stuck inside and likely not working. It would be prudent to know what the pre-covid numbers also looked like.
>>719814248They did
>>719814456Dude if you're the guy who thinks star trek is cool you have no room to talk. That shit is sooo fucking nerdy and lame for real. star wars too, that's hippie shit.I bet you like mass effect too, lame-ass. Warhammer fags are the JJBA fans of sci-fi.
>>719812121Halo threads like this one are made by /v/‘s most infamous Snoy, Eric. He makes them cause he knows he’ll always have Bungie nostalgia fags, Bitter boomer shooter old heads, and other sonyfags join in on his hate circle jerk off.
Halo is fun. I wish Bungie had completed it as was intended
Their writing peaked with the Marathon trilogy.
>>719814537I think realistically the only thing that could really sink GTA6 would be allowing overly-inflated expectations for it to propagate. Rockstar is in such a unique position as a studio that I wouldn't imagine they have any real publisher mandated deadline to lead to the launch of a half-baked product. Investors don't even need to get anxious when GTA5 is still in the top 10 for top selling games even today. There's definitely an aura of opulence over how the marketing for the game is being conducted, but I would be shocked if the game launched as a broken unfinished mess. I think the only thing that could really sink GTA6 would be having an ego not to control the narrative once players start to just assume that the game is going to be well beyond the scope of what they've actually made and not going out of their way to keep player expectations in-line.
>>719815748It's a shame about the gameplay.
>>719799136That’s a pretty hot take, but you have a point. Xbox Live (with friends) was a a whole nother thing back in the day. It was the discord of today. If you had friends, it was really awesome time.
>>719814443>>719814632seems like dev.4stats only goes up to a bit before 2018, but even that alone tells me that a non-insignificant amount of people have finally called it quits over the years, this isn't even getting into how much things are still inflated by circlejerks like the dalle3 general and literal bots constantly reposting old shit to try to simulate traffic
>>719796987As a geezer who played pathway into darkness on release, I halfway agree, but marathon 1 and 2 kicked ass for it's time.. The part I take issue with is that Mac to MS bungie actually released games. Current bungie can't even get labels without stealing them.
>>719796987What's with this influx of "halo was never good!" contrarizoomers?
>>719815756Fucking over the live service portion of 6 would also be necessary,. Even that wouldn't sink gta 6. It would just fuck over gta 7.
>>719810368>>719810665>>719810708>>719810953>>719811856It really is genuinely people who have been on this site since the 00’s. The same type of people that grew up with Quake and Unreal. It’s why these threads are filled with so much resentment towards Halo, they’re still bitter about Halo being one of the catalyst towards the downfall of twitch shooters. They’re those posters that can’t leave this place and have discussions elsewhere, so they just lurk this board now.
>>719799136I did. Marathon trilogy mogs Halo trilogy.
>>719815950Yeah this paints a much clearer picture. Honestly likely a symptom of chan culture bleeding into the mainstream. When you can find pockets of that same culture on just about every other social media platform there's less and less reason or need to really go to sites like 4chan to talk about it. Even the niche of the not needing to have an account to post is less unique when browsers have features backed in to quickly make burner accounts easy and Twitter at this point might as well be /pol/ 2 eating from the same pool of potential users.
>>719816198>Halo being one of the catalyst towards the downfall of twitch shootersWhy does Halo get the blame for that instead of shit like Call of Duty or Battlefield?
>>719815813Filtered.
>>719816398Yeah, filtered by that clunky piece of shit.
>>719816387It was the first to do the two weapon limit and regenerating health.>Erm ACKSHUALLY it had regenerating shields, not healthMy point still stands.
>>719816387Those filled a completely different niche, and Call of Duty didn't even exist before Halo.
>>719815950Interesting how from 2022 onwards you can start to see the averages finally pitfall, and then post-hack /v/ has truly become unfixable If it weren't for the sheer amount of threads made around the clock hiding it you'd see way more people notice that a lot of people are gone for real
>>719796987Nah, Halo CE was just that good of a videogame.Seething snoys and masterracecucks can cope all they want, they were great titles
>>719816582Ooh the clunkiness, I can't stand the clunkiness!
>>719816198You can’t go on other sites without people crying about anime characters being 17 and 364 days old
>>719814573Who the hell asked for that? I just wanted to be a green dude in a suit shooting aliens in outer space while traveling to cool alien worlds and fighting cool alien bosses. If I wanted a generic military shooter designed to sign me up for the Zog meat grinder, I would have just played Call of Duty or Battlefield instead. Halo kept going against what created it, 90s FPS, and that's why it eventually faded.
>>719816684I guess it's fine if you only had a Mac and developed Stockholm syndrome. They couldn't even be bothered to add a reload button.
>>719816387>Why does Halo get the blame for thatSame reason why these Halo hate threads still get made, console warriors.
>>719816609Arguably CoD with it's ADS and sprinting has done more harm to shooters than anything else. It even ended up ruining Halo too. >It was the first to do the two weapon limit This is so retarded, because it works fine in Halo because the game is designed around it. Though in games like CoD it really doesn't matter because every weapon is literally the same anyway.
>>719816791>console warriors.That play Quake and Doom?
>>719816828I used to say this too. COD and Medal of Honor were the catalyst for all shitty FPS games.People like to call halo shit for being slow or whatever but games like Golden Eye and Marathon had similar pacing and were never hated as much.Im pretty sure 99% of anons who hate halo just hate it out of spite
>>719814620Wouldn't the encephalopathy be why you're asking?
>>719815813What's wrong with the gameplay?
>>719816737I played the Marathon trilogy for the first time this year though.
>>719817003Both Goldeneye and Marathon were much faster. Goldeneye specifically rewarded you for completing levels quickly.
HOLY FUARK
>>719816697I did
>>719817081Slippery movement, low gravity, no manual reloading, boring enemies, nonsensical level design.
>>719796987luv doom and hereticluv quake and unrealluv halosimple as
>>719816697That’s literally halo 1-3 retard
>>719816737In 1994? On the pc side we have shit like rise of the triad, system shock 1. Blake stone. I mean it's not doom 2, but what is?
>>719796987Nope. Halo 1 and 2 were great games, shouldn't be ranked with greatest but they're exceptional experiences. And no, this ain't nostalgia talking because I replayed the game very recently and my perception remains the same.
>>719817263Don't call me a retard.
>>719817114Wtf is this real?
>>719817298That's kind of my point. It was played because there was nothing else to do.
>>719817535Ok nigger
>>719796987Halos 1 through ODST are brilliant. Reach is ok. Everything else kinda sucks.
>>719797369>inner monologueis there a more pseud argument then this?
>>719817114Like another anon said, I'm honestly surprised FPS never got stereotyped as an autism genre, cause a lot of people act like they can only enjoy it if everything looks like a fish's POV and everyone moves with thrice the speed of Scout (and even then that's not enough)
>>719817570I think it's runner up for its' era, but it's era was before quake and unreal.
For the Halo fans here, how does it feel to know that you're not the target audience anymore?
>>719817671This is pretty much the take most people have. Funny enough Frank O Connor wrote Reach's story lol.So I guess it makes sense that it started feeling like fanfiction.
>>719817870It's definitely not better than any of the Build games.
>>719817902Forgot about Halo Wars the RTS. That one is actually surprisingly good as well.
>>719817887Feels fine because the trilogy fucking ended and reached the height of its success and relevancy in my time, and everything else has been a glib facsimile that not even browns and zoomers enjoy.
>>719817720People will always optimize a pvp game, no matter what it is.
>>719817887Is there a target audience? I mean the current heads on it hate guns and the millitary.
>>719818209The target audience of first person shooters in general I mean. Its all about ADHD zipping and zooming now.
no we had computers growing up with all the counter strikes and unreal tournaments and call of duties and medals of honorit didn't stop us from spending all our afternoons playing halo coop over and over again then halo 2 and 3 onlinehalo was just coolerin the other games you didn't get to hijack an alien hoverbike to zoom through the battlefield while your friend is out genociding grunts with his bare hands, or go around an island shooting infinite bullets from a warthog's turret while your friend is driving you down a cliff
>>719817887>For the Halo fans here, how does it feel to know that you're not the target audience anymore?No one is, and no one has been for well over a decade now. And I feel zero pity for the few 343-tards that still try the delude themselves in to thinking that the 343 halo games have any value at all.
>>719817263Halo 1 was literally just 80s/90s sci-fi films, comics, manga, and anime mashed into one while taking elements from 90s FPS games. Halo after CE became War on Terror shit, Bungie even had to go out and meet the US military for Halo 2, so the UNSC was no longer Starship Trooper stand-ins. Master Chief was the player and the game had you saving the galaxy and being connected to something greater, mysterious. "The Last time you asked me would I do it" Go fuck yourself for lying about how Halo was always that stupid shit.
>>719817887To be maliciously ignored for over a decade? Not so bad once you realize 343i and Microsoft ate shit for their misdeeds in the end.They killed the IP, and 343's games are fucking shit and so shit it killed half of the studi. From the looks of it they haven't learned their lesson so I guess we're in for part 4 of them fucking up and everyone pointing and laughing.People want a Halo2/3 type game, not some bullshit cod ripoff trying to be passed off as Halo.
>>719817887I've been feeling like I wasn't the target audience anymore since post-Halo CE, maybe the remake will change things, Infinite's campaign was at least a step in the right direction, that's more than I can say about this since 2004.
>>719818965youre not interesting or unique you fucking stupid faggot. kill yourself, holy shit.
>>719818828halo 2 is kino
>>719818965Every single 343 project has been a colossal failure and a fuck up. I don't understand there still are people that think "Uhm maybe next time they will actually get it right!" Like come the fuck on already. The UE5 mock-ups the showed all looked like shit. How many times to you need to learn that 343 can't make good games let alone good halo games.
>>719818889>People want a Halo2/3 type gameI want Halo CE 2, not your gay ass alien documentary about the War on Terror in SPACE, Space, space, space...
>>719819185Halo 2 sucked, the fact that you're calling it cinema solidifies that it sucks ass.
>>719819101CE feels the most unique any Halo game that came out after
>>719819204Look at the bright side, if they fuck up this time, Microsoft will finally take the entire Halo series out back.
>>719819748And what exactly makes you think that 343 could make a good Halo CE?
>>719819852>Look at the bright side, if they fuck up this time, Microsoft will finally take the entire Halo series out back.I wouldn't be so optimistic. Like if they did that, what would Micrococks even have left?
On this board, humans and Forerunners are one and the same.
>>719819930Microsoft have live-service slop now, you still living in the early 2000s when Halo was Microsoft's Call of Duty?>>719819858Infinite showed potential and the people blocking that potential got fired. I want see what this Halo Studios can do and see if they bring back Halo 1's health system as well.
>>719820179>Infinite showed potentialBy being a shallow far cry clone?
>>719820046On this board, Master Chief is either the reincarnation of the Security Officer, or he is the Security Officer.
>>719820260By finally looking at Halo CE instead of Halo 2
halo was amazing and full vidya bro tiershalln't take the opinion of zoomers who didnt even play it and think clunky souls slop, le indie le metrodvania or gacha slop is the epitome of gaming
>>719820424>broNo one liked your normalfag asses then, no one likes your normalfag asses now
THEY FALL IN LINE
>>719820179Why are you people so hung up on the health system thing? Does one little thing as small as that make THAT much of a difference on whether or not you can simply enjoy an FPS?Yes, a CE remake should have that system, but in this thread I've seen the complaint too much for it to make sense, it's just whining.
>>719809336That's like complaining that you still stomp koopas and goombas in Mario.
Me personally I like CE the most for it's weapons, everything has a shitload of ammo and they all feel solidly strong besides the Needler (just because it tracks too slowly, it was clearly very experimental though)
>>719821204CEnigs are not human
>>719821204Halo CE gave you resource management. You could tank a lot of hits like your average FPS but when you're low on health, it allowed you to think and explore around you to see if you can get your health back up to full. Halo 2 promoted sitting behind cover like a bitch, waiting for your health to recover. Shit is why COD started sucking and why Gears of War was crap right with the first game.
>>719821676Mario isn't a continuing storyline, Halo is. If you already killed the fucking Covenant in the third game, why are you still fighting the Covenant after the third game?
>>719816896Of course not. But the console warriors that use other fandoms and groups to propagate their agendas. Just like this thread.
>>719821204Halo 2 didn't just add health regen, it also lowered player health significantly to make up for the fact that health regenerated. It killed how aggressive you could be on higher difficulties because you'd just get mowed down by any weapon faster than you can react. CE(and ODST) are the only two games where you can really play out of cover and never have to worry about being instantly melted.
>>719821852The Needler serves a purpose in campaign, it's good for deleting tankier enemies and Flood. I found myself using it a surprising amount in my most recent legendary run. It's not good in multiplayer, but that's okay.
>>719809058>learn from classic FPS gamesyour boomershit was never popular, "boomer shooters" never even capped 10k players meanwhile some shitty 2D jumpy game has 500k
>>719823638I will always hate 343's sandbox team while being happy for their layoffs for cutting Halo CE's health system from Halo Infinite just cause.
No one except you gives a shit about "why PC shooters are better than console shooters" or some nebulous, self-inflicted mental gymnastics as to why "Bungie era games were never good and everyone just got tricked into thinking they were," the overwhelmingly vast majority of people just want to play something fun yet you can't help but put a tree branch up your ass about the stupidest shit.
>>719804957Holy shit do thirdies really?
>>719824019What are you talking about? South Americans love Halo 2. They never stopped playing it.
>>719821932CEgods are the only humans and real Halo fans, we made the franchise into a giant without needing multiplayer, all of the 2 and 3 niggers jumped ship off to call of duty
>>719823857>popularThat's your fucking problem, but don't worry, your AAA slop will be dying in this generation so now you normalfags can get out.
>>719824446I only played multiplayer in CE. It took me years to even bother starting the campaign.
>>719820558you're the normalfag now bro, sorry you think babbies first board is a secwet cwub
>>719824446This
>>719824486Oh so you want Halo to be a pixelshit garbage indie? I'd rather the series dies.indieslop has never been good, AA is the future
>>719824548Being a normalfag means liking AAA slop
>>719824635Indies are already leaving pixel hell and going 3D. Indies and AA are the future or should I say a return to form to the era of 80s-early 2000s before Sony and Microsoft started forcing AAA into the limelight.
Halo 1-3 are legendary archived classics. I have no idea why they trigger retards so much. I guess its either you missed out on it. Or you you were being an edgelord in the early 00's, trying to dismiss but it ended up being something way more relevant than the slop you were playing at the time.
I used to be an autist when it came to FPS games but now I've just kinda sunk into a "different strokes for different folks" mentality. Not everything needed to be a twitch arena shooter just like everything doesn't need to be a gritty mil-sim either. There is a whole spectrum of games that FPS can take and as long as it sets out what it tried to achieve well enough, who cares?
>>719823007That's totally Gears' fault. Halo 2 at least still understood that if the player gets regenerating health, the enemy needs it too, or else fights devolve into you humping your favorite wall while chipping down the enemy at zero risk. This dynamic is totally lost on the industry at large, and from what I played of Destiny, it seems Bungie forgot it too.
>>719824648this board is losing its mind over a game nintendo did better 40 years ago. Along with le souls like slop this weeb infested board ARE normalfaggots who think liking some obscure shit made in game maker ue5 or unity makes you a coniseur of vidya
>>719825139The problem isn't Halo 1-3, the problem is Halo 2 on up. Halo 1 had its moments, it wasn't perfect, but people did see the potential of what it could do. Halo 2 should have showed that potential, but it became generic slop thanks to Microsoft rot. The series never recovered after the damage Halo 2 did to it.
>>719825310It was Halo 2's fault, Bungie admitted to wanting to casualize the shooter genre.
>>719825314It's sad that you're right about this. I hate all these normalfags that shitted up this board so much.
>>719823638>it also lowered player health significantly to make up for the fact that health regenerated.Hell, isn't Legendary Chief/Arbiter the weakest thing in the entire campaign? Shit's fucked, H2 was always my least favorite to replay of the trilogy
Halo 3 had some fantastic vehicle action that a lot of other games weren't doing at the time. I also loved the concept of a "mobile base" like the Elephant (as goofy as it was) and the Scarabs (even if they're just a single-player thing). Great physics too. I always wished games expanded on ideas like that as technology became stronger but they never really did. Games today are so stiff I'm not even sure they're capable of doing what Halo 3 did 18 years ago.
Crazy how Halo haters make better Halo threads than Halo """fans""", can't stand lorefags.
>>719825857man I fucking love Halo chapter titleshttps://youtu.be/A9UAGt03Yms?si=tQiSZ1Z32W7hIRu1&t=33
>>719825858I dunno, we've been having some pretty good Halo threads recently if it doesn't devolve into someone defending the 343 games. Infinite discussion gets a pass, but 4 and Guardians do not.
>>719811842>your main character is some guy called "Chief"It's the highest enlisted rank of the UNSC's marine space division. Johnson is sergeant major, the highest enlisted rank of the ground division. I'm not really sure what the big difference is between the two when both MC and Johnson are deployed and exercise authority interchangably, and I can be Bungie probably didn't know or care either. Spartans were always made as NCOs because the marines treated them as disposable "fuck shit up" weapons to tactically deploy and not to ask questions about what they were doing, which was a natural transition from them originally being used to quell human uprisings on the fringe worlds. Still once spartans are on the ground, they give the orders and decide how shit gets done, and any competent officers know to shut the fuck up. That's one thing Bungie got right with Hood and Keyes, and 343 fucks it up every chance they get, probably intentionally to force drama.
>>719814702Star Trek is cooler than Halo.Mass Effect is almost cool and then ruins it by being more lame-o war in Iraq in space bullshit.
>>719816063It's not contrarianism. It was just never good.People who were seriously into games back then were always blase about Halo. It was the original little brother franchise, like Fortnite is now.
Is there any reason why Flood-infected Elites in Halo 3 seem to be able to tank multiple Energy Sword swipes with zero indication or feedback of what's going on?
It's kinda funny how response to a game can help shape the long term view of a game, a lot of people recognize Halo as a solid FPS, but because of xbots thinking it is the second coming of christ, people had to dunk on it and eventually earning "Babby's first FPS". I think sometimes people dig into their trenches too hard until the objective quality of the game is hidden behind memes and responses to responses.Happens a lot with single player games these days I found, where people don't really talk about the game but instead of the community surrounding it, something that has no bearing on the quality of said game.
>>719827009They kept their energy shields, same as 2. And just like 2 there is feedback, you can see the shimmering, but not as noticeable. You did play 2 first, right?
>>719827330This, it's why I don't see these people as gamers when they care about anything but the game.
>>719827330It's not so much xbox fags shilled it, it's that most other shooters copied it in some way to try to capture its audience, for 10 fucking years. Most of the time the copy attempt was shitty, other devs didn't understand how Bungie made Halo's restricted mechanics work so well, there was no variety allowed in games, it even affected primarily PC franchises like Duke Nukem. It got worse when CoD became even more popular than Halo and also did the regenerating health and 2 weapon limit. The Bungie games were well designed and them being so popular wasn't their fault, but people had good reason to hate them.
It isn’t like halo was my first FPS game I had played. I had played heretic on pc, had played goldeneye and quake and doom on n64, all of these were as a kid, when halo dropped on the Xbox I played it for the first time at my friends house and it just seemed like a great game and a great universe and it convinced me to buy an Xbox. it just seemed a lot better and more interesting than most FPS games at the time I had seen or played. Early bungie was god tier high quality work.Whil I played halo 1 and halo 2 I had a pc and I played some stuff like quake 3 arena which I liked a lot and some unreal tournament which were awesome games, but nothing really interested me at the time like halo did. I think a lot of it was it being a world that was interesting but the base gameplay was also really good. It made a lot of other games seem unpolished or cheap by comparison. This isn’t me saying that objectively I’m just saying at the time that was how I felt and I’m sure other people did as well, so whatever they did worked. Truthfully I think their best games were halo 1 and halo 2, by the time halo 3 came out while I enjoyed the game it didn’t really feel the same. odst and reach were both decent but again it felt like there was a subtle shift that had taken place and they didn’t feel as magical to me as the first 2 games did. I think some of it may have just been the change in the engine they used but some of it was them moving to a more modern conventional movie game sort of presentation.
>>719827981Halo clones are a myth, Halo never had a bunch of clones like how COD popularized mil-sim slop
>>719828394There was a period of slav jank halo clones, but yeah, nothing like CoD and Medal of Honour did in the A->AAA scene.
>>719828478The only "slav jank" that i know of at the times of Halo is Serious Sam which plays nothing like Halo
>>719796987>wastruebut it IS kino
>>719797547halo on PC in 2002
>>719799136>halo is friendslopuhhhh anon?
>>719817671Everything about Reach sucks, DMR included
