>comes out in am hour>no threadNo wonder the only golf games we get in the big 25 are 2kslop and Nintendo failing miserably to reinvent arcade golf by adding tedium
The retard zoomer game that only 8% beat got a sequel today and nobody knows what hot shots golf is anymore.
>I am yet again crying and complainingNice life
>>719828339Where's Adam Jensen?
>>719828405Tell me you're a tendie without telling me you're a tendie
What is this snoy crying about?
>>719828589Getting his back blown out by kratos
>>719828865We must be better golfers
>>719828865IM A GOD AT GOLF
Most unfortunate release date imaginable.
>>719828865We must be better golfershow well does this game emulate?
>>719828339Sorrybut this is no Pangya...
>>719828865>GODS WHERE IS MY WIFE'S SON'S BALL
need more stupid crossover charactersI soi faced as a kid when I unlocked playable ratchet. add gordon freeman or an umamusume
>>719828339The last one was nothing more than a microtransaction marketplace dressed up as a golf game.It deserves failure now.
>>719829004When I was emulating it around this time last year the shaders would randomly corrupt
>>719829374Minna no golf world is a sequel to minna no golf 6. If you check the steam forums you can see zoomers seething that the game isn't like their faux mmo ps4 game
i bought it, i regret nothing, claphanz games are low budget kino
>>719829627So it's more World Invitational instead?Shit, I take it back. I hope it does well.
>>719828339I've been waiting for a good three-click golf game on PC forever. I'm surprised no indie dev released one. Every golf game always had some retarded extra gimmick or was a puzzle game or something.
>>719828962is it? there's this thing called counter programming, and comparing a second-to-second intense action game to a more leisurely yet still mentally demanding golfing title is about as counter programming as it gets
>>719829847the new game added retarded gimmicks like fatigue if you use your power shot too many times in a row and quirky indieslop gimmicks like your ball exploding randomly when it stops rolling. the fatigue system is disablable but it should never have been added in the first place
>>719828865ATREUS!! WE MUST BE BETTER GOLFERS!!
>>719829638I thought claphanz wasn't involved with this game and did their own game on switch instead
>>719828339hotshots golf is fortnite multiverse crossoverslop
>>719828339did sony’s team asobi help make this?
>>719830125Are you describing THIS game, or the last entry in this series? I've had this on my mind as I want something like Mario Golf 64.
I'd have picked this up if the new Daemon X Machina didn't also come out tomorrow.
>>719830304>>719830413it is published by scamdai namco, developed by the digimon shartvive and shart factory 5 devs and licensed by sony
>>719830558I am describing his game. https://youtu.be/poDhdSWwNYs
>>719830360yeah and it's based
>>719828339Get rid of the assinine tights-under-skirt motif, and then we'll talk. Wear a skirt or wear pants, bitch.
>>719828339why take shots at mario golf when you live in a glass house made of generative AI slop
>>719828339How bad is the switch 1 version?Im thinking of getting that one...
>>719830820>crying about having to unlock your charactersfaggots like this are why we get revivalslop sparking zero
>>719830746
>>719831073>Tree and leaf textures in the golf courses were created using AI-generated images
>>719831459Why are devs so fucking lazy making grass and trees with their own hands?No wonder this game looks worse than the old everybodys golf games..
Is it worth 40 eurobucks and how good is it on the steam 'eck? I'm tempted.
Easy come easy gold got a 60fps update on Switch so I'll going to buy that one first and when I'm done with it I'll get this one.
>>719831804Check reviews first anon.Switch 1 has framerate problems when the Good shot texts comes up and when you see the replays. Switch 2 has he same problem as switch 1.PS5 vers has other game problems.PC might be the best version, but as i said. Check the reviews first.
If I wait til the release date, can I not unlock Pac Man early? I'd rather complete a specific challenge to earn him.
>>719832035Is that update for Switch 1 console or only for the Switch 2 console?
>>719832061I have it on the switch 2 and haven't noticed any issues.
>>719831804kek on 'eck
Easy Come Easy Golf just got an update to add 60fps and some other shit. It even works on switch 1 and runs pretty good. Only framerate dips is when tons of characters are on screen which only happens on the congratulations screen. https://claphanz.com/en/news/nintendo_switch_easy_come_easy_golf_ver198_update.html
>>719828339Just got my key. I'm excited. Hope there are a lot of cute girls and outfits to unlock.
>>719832232Not interested in mobile slop
>>719832227>FPS 26oof
>>719832232Odd timing, it's as if they're trying to compete with Everybody's Golf even though it's most likely just a coincidence.
>>719831416Man, he actually tried to weaponise his own face by shooping a box.How pathetic.
>>719832035>>719832232Wow, did they really drop that update now specifically to compete with Hot Shots?
>>719832160I'm on switch 2 aswell. Should I leave dynamic resolution on or off?
>>719832148Not really sure, sorry, I know they added 60fps mode to Switch 1 too and now the game runs 1080p handheld so pretty much a Switch 2 upgrade but no idea how it runs on OG Switch, I'll try to search info but with those small games it is rather hard to get conclusive answers.
So, is it a ripoff? How many courses? Are there game breaking bugs?
>>719828339i forgot about this thanks anononly hot shots i played was on ps2 and i loved italways thought 3 click was superior i enjoy the hazard concept too, will check it out
>>719832420Hot Shots Fired
>>719832580Why does a game with basically psp graphics in slightly higher resolution need a dynamic resolution option? Where did it all go so wrong?
>>719828339Is it going to be on Steam? I bought the one on Black Friday for PS4 and never played it.
>>719832883yeshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2730810/EVERYBODYS_GOLF_HOT_SHOTS/
>>719832883yeah i have it wishlisted
>>719832692Its fine. Nothing special, but its nice to have on switch and pc. There is quite a bit to do in singleplayer, but it's up to you if thats worth it. I've always played these games with friends and family so it was an easy purchase for me
>>719832232Cool. Gonna install on switch 2.
>>719832859The models look pretty nice. Did you actually own a psp? I get your argument but its a bit redundant.
Hope it's better than Super Rush. That game made me regret living life.
>>719833130Super rush was fun for like a week tops. The golfing didn't have staying power. Its too early to tell with this one, but so far its more enjoyable.
>>719832859>basically psp graphics
>>719831416Cute!
>>719832232Add more content to the vr game you bitches.
>>719833361Where is my state mandated forex trading caddy gf?
>>719833361Yeah that was really fun. Its a shame it was abandoned
>>719832951What in the goddamn?
>>719828339Sophie!
>>719833553Well that's weird, PlayStation isn't the publisher this time for that to happen.
Man, I used to be a tester on this series twenty years ago. I miss those long days when I'd come in, have a cup of coffee, put on my first gen iPod and listen to ripped mp3s of Loveline, and play some golf looking for bugs.
>>719832232Thanks anon. I will buy that game instead.
>>719833670Sounds like a preddy gud job you had there.
How many characters in the series are like this trailer I'm watching where this guy is talking about his darkness taking over him and not being able to control his aura in between each shot? I want more of that.
>>719832232snoys on suicide watch
>>719833902All good things must pass. I loved the guys I worked with and the hours, it was really the only job I've ever had that I looked forward to going to, but it was also a very low-paying dead-end job and I heard my whole department was outsourced years after I left.
if this real hdr or fake hdr
>>719828865>Kratos ferociously takes over the golf course
upload where?
>>719834281>gives every other golfer the Joel Special
>>719834315Playstation StoreNintendo eShopSteam StoreGlad I could help
What's the selling point of this series, gameplay wise? Is it just really solid arcade gameplay and physics with some charm? Is it hard enough that I can't just master the shot timings and brain=off every course after that point?
>>719830558>>719830125>the new game added new optional mechanics, that are toggle-able and i never have to engage with them if i don't want to....and this is a bad thing because i said so>They also added an optional party mode in the this party golf game where your ball randomly explodes that you don't have to play..... this is also bad because i said soi dont get you retards. it's optional, shut the fuck up. Type of nigga to complain that a game has subtitle options in the settings because "i dont use them, so no one else should either"
Does it have nipponese audio option?
>>719834315Its 40 dollars for a beloved golf franchise that hasn't seen the light of day since 2017. Don't be a poor nigga
>>719834578To be fair, this is the first Hot Shots/Everybody's Golf without the original developer (Clap Hanz) so you can't blame people for being cautious.
whats the point of all the food items I get? I dont see an option to feed them to my character
>>719834464>i dont get you retards. it's optional, shut the fuck upIt’s wasting development time on bullshit that could be spent better elsewhere. And don’t act like anyone’s actually gonna play those modes
>>719833130Eh, Everybody's golf was always meh I don't expect it to be better than Super Rush
>>719836175The fact that it has the traditional input method instead of Super Rush's auto-miss bullshit means it's already better.
>>719836859I can't fathom why Camelot decided to casualize Mario Golf right after they made the most technical Mario Tennis by a mile.
>>719834559Yeah
Who is actually playing it on PC? Optimized at all or runs like shit?
>>719835362they increase trust and loyaltygo to data and then either characters or caddy
How's the story though? I'm itching for a POWER OF FRIENDSHIP sports game.
>>719837389Well hello mama.show panties
I gotta wait a week, money's tight at the moment. But it's a good excuse to do some World Invitational in the meantime.>>719832392ECEG is by Clap Hanz, right? I doubt it was a coincidence.
>>719832232>Actually made by ClapHanz>on SwitchDamn, that's lame.
>>719837484Golf Story had a very fun campaign with a good story, I highly recommend it. Apparently the sequel wasn't very good so I never checked it out.
>>719837504she wears spatsim pretty sure shes supposed to be a zoomer because she calls shots peak, mid and cringe
>>719838069switch games are free on pc
No Adam Jensen no buy
Ok lads, rank your favorites in the series. I really liked Fore, 3, and Out of Bounds.
>>719838337that's pretty funny
>>719838414thats the vibe!
>>719838762>spats
>>719838947Nta. But I was more worried for a black void.
>>719838947go back to sucking dicks on reddit
>>719838205bro i'm specifically talking about this game johnny
>>719828589He never asked for this
>>719839371Carry on then, I also hope it has a good campaign
>>719839006>>719838947>>719838762we should pool up some money and get some autist to reverse the game so we can mod panties in.
>>719838762Nice shot? More like nice SHIT! LMAO!
>>719832232They should release a PC version at once.>>719832392I don't think these games compete because they are so niche. People who care about one end up buying and playing the other one too.
chat is this real
Does easy come easy golf have local vs?
>>719840424Caddyshack tried to warn us.
>>719828339>Not Mario Golf
>>719840631It's the other way around. Mario Golf is the "Not Everybody's Golf". Camelot started this series before Nintendo hired them for Mario Golf. Then they passed the baton to Clap Hanz, who did a good job. And now some other company paid by Bandai Namco has released a new version.
>>719840501Yes. Also goddamn the loading is near instant now even on switch 1.
so what kind of customization is in this game? clubs, balls, skins, clothes?
>>719828339Ha! She got them real far-apart eyes like the old Pokemon anime.
>Everybody's Golf (2017) flew under the radar for 8 years as a great game and nobody cares>New 'Hot Shots' game that gets released on PC is a massive downgradeCan't say I'm surprised.
>>719842836>stuck on ps4that's unfortunate
>>719842836I wonder if they should have ported that one to Switch and PC instead.
>>719842697I miss that look
GOOOO KILL YOURSELF(aaaaaaand relax) GOOOOOOOO KILL YOURSELF(aaaaand relax)
>>719828865Nick Tarnasky could take him
nude mod when?
>>719842836Its weird. I don't think its a bad game, but this is clearly a new start or so they hope. Its selling well in japan so far though
>>719834423>Is it just really solid arcade gameplay and physics with some charm?Yes.>Is it hard enough that I can't just master the shot timings and brain=off every course after that point?Sort of? The courses get progressively more difficult, but the point of the game isn't ball-punching difficulty. You just learn how to play each characer/course and have fun with it. You can always mess up a shot and have to recover.>>719842836>great game and nobody caresOnline grindfest. It's shit.>>719830671I'm getting both. PC?
>>719842836We bitched about that one lacking compared to the vita game as well
>>719843258Bro is a golf game. Who is getting naked?
>>719842958Would have been way better than this bland nothing game. It's like they released this hoping people don't know about that golf game from 8 years ago. I've been playing it off and on for years. Sorry to say it again, but this new one is an objective downgrade in features and everything. Not lmaoing. Very disappointed.Check out this review where this guy compares it to Everybody's Golf. There is so much more content, customization, and shit to do in that old game, like multiplayer and 'open world' and vehicles and all sorts of shit. This new one is like a PSP game compared to a console game. There's even fishing in the 2017 game for fuck's sake.
>>7198428362017 is worse than Minna no golf 6. Japanese companies making online faux mmo games was the worst trend of the 2010s and I believe momster hunter 3u for popularizing it
>Hey, did you hear that the devs of the new Everybody Golfs got caught lying about using AI?>Oh, so they said that they wouldn't and got caught using it?>No, the opposite. They said they were using AI when they actually weren't.Genuinely the most stupid PR move I've ever seen. It completely killed all hype and goodwill for something that isn't even true. I can only assume some insanely out of touch higher-up thought it'd make the game sound "modern" or some shit.
>>719843479https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEqAIoC01k4Forgot to link the video.
>>719843479>nooooo the new game should have a shallow collectible grinding for my create a character in an open world golf map that's empty because they shut down the servers mid 2020I hate zoomers
>>719843856who are you quoting?
>>719843856>wanting to play mario golf for 30 yearsOK boomer.I'm 35 and you have shit taste.
>>719843925You. Everybodys golf 2017 is a game they shit out to reach sonys multiplayer games quota and is a step down from every previous entry. There's such a lack of content compared to previous games you literally had to include vehicles you drive around a small hub world and fishing to make it seem like 2017 had content
>>719843732I should have played it before selling my ps4 : (
>>719844129>Youwhere? I never said that.
>>719844124Mario golf desperately trying to reinvent itself is literally the reason it went to shit
>>719844270Switch one was bad, huh?
>>719828339I'm going to buy this tomorrow, I've been dying for a fun golf game.Apparently it has performance issues from the reviews I saw but I can only assume it's poorfags.
>>719844204Its fine, but the online crap ruins it
>>719844124The appeal of these games was always mario golf with nice graphics on ps. The answer to that is yes
>>719844124>I'm 35thanks for the blog update
>>719844523It seems unplayable on Steam Deck because the frame rate fluctuates and you lose accuracy when making the shots.I'm going to test it on an RTX3090. I hope there won't be any problems with stuttering and frame rate drops...>>719844389Mario Golf Super Rush is a disaster.Half of the game is totally bland, and the other half is just plain annoying.The only depth to the gameplay is in a mechanic that changes the ball's trajectory when it's already in the air. It takes the focus away from what matters in golf, even in an arcade game, and puts it on some shitty air ball control.There are entire game modes that make no sense. The developers didn't even test them to see if they were balanced.
>>719843479Not trying to be mean as maybe its one you like or hold dear, but the ps4 one is why it kind of died. People on the playstation weren't buying these sort of games and all the additons made to accommodate the online stuff felt forced
>>719843297>PC?Yep.
>>719845083Jesus, I was kinda thinking about getting that. Time to dust off the ol' 64.
so many characters but you only start with 2, lol
>>719838762She's dressed like sex.
>>719838337you're trolling right
>>719834161I don't know but the game feels weirdly dark, like it's always cloudy. Why don't they have the sun out more often?
>>719845083I have a 4060ti and I get a locked 120 fps
>BamcoHas any .hack character ever made a cameo in these games?
is there a way to make the landing camera overhead?
>>719845608Some cuties in there.
>mixedITS OVER
>>719846206My boy isn't in... NO GOOD NO GOOD
>>719828339All they have to do is make a new Pangya and the horror will end. Too bad the Pangya company is allergic to money and making games.
why is the camera so low by default? I can't see shit
>>719846317maybe it's because so short
>>719828339Itagaki is in this game?
>>719846206jensenbros........
>>719846317Might it have to do with you sir using Pac-Man?
Might refund this. It feels really cheap in a bad way.
>>719846523what? he's there.
>>719846206Am I supposed to recognise anyone other than Pac-Man? I thought part of the appeal for this series was the crossover characters?
I just installed the PC version. Let's see if it's worth it...:^(
>>719846619I bought it on the switch and it feels fine. What issue are you having? The controls were a bit weird to get used to at first though.
>>719846664>I thought part of the appeal for this series was the crossover characters?not really. they existed but they weren't a MAJOR part of the series. also it used to be published by sony.
>>719846645He never asked for this
How do you get an overhead view of the fairway while aiming a shot? I swear you could do this in the old games.It feels too weird trying to aim backwards with the default camera.
>>719846206>no melShit game
>see classic controls>select classic controls>they aren't even classic controls??? Having zoom in on square and the right stick is a sin
hot shots peaked with 4, every new game is doing too much
>>719846206all those girls look the exact fucking same and have no discernable personalitytake me back to Fore!, this stuff is so shit.
>>719846206aya looks awfully familiar
>>719846236>looke at the reviews>its 3rd worlders with 15 year old hardware complaining about performance
I have it wishlisted on Steam and there will be a Switch version, great
>>719828339>spats_ D R O P P E D _
>>719847359seems like genuine issues though? there is no reason this should be dipping frames on the Deck, it isn't an intensive game.
>>719846206>Lani is backoh shit nice
>>719847359Runs great on my 9800x3d 9070 xt
>>719847456if its made on ue5 it should not run on deck no idea what engine they are using for this newest game tho
>>719846206having never played an everybody's golf game before my gut reaction is that the best characters are suzuki, erika, the robots, and runehow far off the mark am I
>>719847280>take me back to Fore
>>719847693that's the most midge to ever midge
>>719847693it's fucking Alex Kidd in drag
can't believe I'm saying this but it should have more crossover charactersit's bandai namco, gimme goku and jotaro and char
>>719847693yes? all of those character have something unique about them instead of being generic anime girl #401024.
>>719848005>ugly goodlet me guess, big playstation fan?
>>719848056Nta, I can kind of see both sides here. I much prefer the bamco character though. I can only take so much ugliness. Were they like this for minna no golf 4 or just hotshots?
>>719848201just hot shots, japan and europe had a normal cast
>>719848239Ah okay. Then he's in the wrong here. >>719848005 sorry dudeMaybe they shouldn't have called it "hotshots" as well.
>>719848005>>719844037
The voice acting is really annoying and repetitive. I'm tempted to turn them off entirely.
Why does the club glow halfway in "advanced mode"? Is it just so you know when it's reached 50% power?
>>719847312>not using backspin when aiming for the greenIs everyone that plays this game retarded
>>719847592Its made in unity 6
>>719848324>pick first golfer guy to do some free golfGO KILL YOURSELF(aaaaand relax)GO KILL YOURSELF(aaaaand relax)
>>719848465YesThe red glow at the end is to signify 100%. I'm not sure if it's in this game but in every other entry with advanced controls its bettee to use them because the game is more forgiving when it comes to shot accuracy
Man, controlling the shot direction with the analog stick is awful. The slightest touch makes the target jump several yards. There's no precision in the control whatsoever.
>>719848781I didn't find anything in the game talking about the possible differences between the modes. I'm assuming they're all the same, but with different UIs...
>>719847456>he fell for the UMPC meme
What's the online like? Can you host 20 man rooms like Everybodys Golf 2017?
>>719849000>Can you host 20 man rooms like Everybodys Golf 2017?No>what's the online likeWhen I tried selecting it on the main menu nothing happened so I assume you have to finish the beginner golf tutorials to unlock it like with pacman
I did an online game but I think all the players turned into bots halfway through the 18 holes because they stopped emoting and CPU shows up on their power gauges
>>719848823turn on classic controls
>>719848823 You're not wrong, the analog sensitivity feels like it was tuned by a guy who’s never held a controller. I barely nudge the stick and suddenly I'm aiming for the parking lot behind the clubhouse. Honestly feels like they slapped it in last minute so they could say "hey look, innovation!" Turn on classic controls or remap if you can, because unless you’ve got surgeon hands, it ain’t worth the frustration.
They nailed the game's physics.It's arcade-like, but it's also challenging. The power bar is very fast, so unless you're extremely autistic, you'll often be inaccurate with your shots, which means you'll have to do a lot of mitigating during matches. It's at the level you'd expect from Everybody's Golf games, which are quite difficult. Much harder than Easy Come Easy Golf, too, which is good.The problem is optimization. I can't get 144fps on my RTX 3090, even at 1440p. And the game makes my GPU work much harder than it should, considering the graphics.
>>719850175i saw the reviews were mixed because of performancehow bad is it? can you get a locked 60? are the 1% lows bad so it stutters regardless?
>>719850328On my PC (i9 10900/RTX 3090), it's running between 110-140 fps (1440p). But the graphics seem pretty basic, even some textures are super low-res, so I'd expect 144 fps in a game like this. I usually play games at 60 fps because I don't like my GPU making 80 decibels of noise in my ears, but in this game, even 60 fps at 720p still forces my GPU to work hard enough for the fans to run at 100%, which doesn't happen even in graphically more impressive games. So I'd say the optimization is shit, but if you have a decent PC, you won't have any problems, except for the inconveniences I mentioned.
>>719828339no panties no buy
>>719850489thanks anon. I have a 3080/5800x3d but that sounds like it'll be acceptable.
>>719850489How are yall having performance issues? I have a ryzen 7 7700x and a 4060ti and i get a locked 120 at 1080p. Then again i also turned off vsync set the framerate to unlimited then re enabled it
>>719850818Will try on my 4060 on an hour aprox
>>719840424You know metal rods and lightning don't mix too well... please go out to some field and wave a steel rod in thunder storm and see it yourself
>>719848632PGA 2K25 is Unity too. That runs really well as it should.
Is what I heard earlier about the Online being room match/join lobbies true or not? Sorta like a server browser?
I've been looking forward to this gameWhy is it rated mixed?
>>719851620ports shit mostly, graphics are pretty shitweird dark filter they have going on
>>719851620It's fine just don't run it on a 10 year old laptop like most steam users are using.
Well I didn't buy it but you did get me download Hot Shots Golf Fore to play on PCSX2, I'm ready for a cruise down nostalgia lane. I remember it being really fun back in the day.
Is the multiplayer for this fun? I was thinking of getting this once the price drops, but the playercount would probably be dead by then
>>719851620game performs like shit also $40
>>719830360A shame they didn't use this Pacman for those platformer games. It's not better than the normal one, but it's clearly superior the the one with teeth
>>719828638Hollow Knight sold best on Switch.
no idea why people are saying the game runs badly, I'm on a shitbox and I'm getting over 400 FPS
>>719851978Yep, still a fun game
>>719833553It happens. FFXI isn't available in my country for some reason
What the fuck is this camera...
>>719852687Often it's not a problem of low fps, but constant stutters and horribble 1% lows. Anyone got those issues?
Has any hot shots game topped this?
>>719847693I love generic anime girls but I'm a fan of that Bee lady's design.
>>719828339I only played pangya on the psp but I'm looking to get into more golf games. is this worth the price?
>>719829004badly. the only way to play any hot shots game is on it's original hardware.than god for this new one. Finally hotshots out of PS hell
>>719854618Fore maybe? Dunno really, always thought of them as being very similar.
I loved playing Hot Shots Golf for PSVita playing as Kathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKpM2Eb5hBg
I love Hot Shots but I also hope the recent surge in classic arcade golf games like ECEG and this new entry get Mario Golf back into shape. There was a really unique niche with World Tour's item golfing that I feel fit the cartoony tone of that franchise but they never followed up on it, instead opting for awful gimmicks >>719845083>>719854618If you like HSG3's formula, then Fore should be up your alley since it has all of the courses and most of the gameplay from 3 along with additional content.
>>719842836>>719843479>Everybody's Golf (2017)game sucked. this new game is more of a "best of" collection, rather than trying to innovate the series, and it pulls it off well. That's why theres a ton of toggleable options to change the swing styles and mechanics to better match what you would find in the different iterations of the franchise you unironically just dont get it, and went into it expecting it to be something that it's not. You're blaming the game for not being something wildly different, when that's not what it is trying to do at all, and letting it derail your opinion of the game. Give it 10 years and you'll be complaining that the next mario kart game isnt open world too
>>719855067every mario sports game on the switch has been a massive disappointment that i would just give up. Mario tennis especially was shockingly bad, i don't know how you fuck up tennis so badly, but they did
>>719829368bring back gex
>>719854618Fore! for sure. Better cast, nice unlockables, better and more courses, etc. 3 is still a really good game though.>>719851978enjoy anon! you're gonna have to enable cheats in pcsx2 because the game has a major issue unless the cheat/patch is automatically applied. can't remember off the top of my head exactly what it is, but a quick google search should solve it for ya.it's a great game, probably the best in the series.
>>719847312did you know she's a caddy? just thought i'd remind you
>>719855184Tennis was the only halfway decent one really, and strikers was some weird amalgamation of “more complicated” and “more boring” along with that failed battle league shit. Super Rush was the only real disaster, but while bad they aren’t to that degreeYou want an actual disaster? Look at the mario party games we’ve gotten on the switch. Somehow they all royally fuck up one aspect or another while leaving none of them the slightest fun to play period, even with friends. I can see Camelot course-correcting especially given all of their titles have flopped to some degree, but NDCube on the other hand have become the new GoodFeel and frankly should just be dropped. Unfortunately Jamboree is a top-seller, so they’ll be stuck in their delusion of grandeur and nothing will ever improve
>>719855485I found some posts from years ago saying there are some issues, but I'm running it on default settings and it's almost perfect, the single issue I've found is water renders in the foreground when it's actually in the background (like on top of characters instead of behind them).
Nah.
Does this have RPG mechanics like the old portable Mario Golfs, or is it just a straight golf sim?
What's the golf game that has some cute long hair emo girl in it? I saw a webm posted on threads like this months ago
>>719856130Pangya?
>>719828339I just miss Pangya....
>>719856054>Is hotshot a simulatorZoom zoom retard
>>719847359Why the fuck are you defending a PS3-looking game running like shit on modern hardware?
>>719856179Maybe, she had long dark hair, covering one eye, kinda like Violet from Incredibles with hair over her face
>>719846249they went defunct and shut down last year bro
>>719855567cute latina
>>719851978>>7198539173 is better. Fore is too easy
>>719855810You can uninstall eac but you wont be able to play online. Not that youd want to play online since its using bamco servers and the pc version will be getting mods and you'll have to uninstall eac to use them anyways
WHY IS IT 35 GIGABYTES
>>719856365We all do bro.
>>719858561Pirate the switch version. Its 11 gb and runs at a smooth 30 fps
>>719828339so whats the /v/erdict? Im interested but seeing its getting mixed reviews. I just want a casual golf game that I can play SP or online with randos
>>719858429>pc version will be getting modsSource? Pretty sure the only reason to get the PC version is to play online.
>>719858804>unity game>not getting mods
>>719857251>You will never get another golf game with 2007 era anime sluts
>>719846206Which of the old games have this kind of aesthetic?Not this abomination>>719847693
>>719857251Kooh, my beloved...
>>719855810Proton compatible EAC or cucked EAC?
Does the Switch version have motion controls by any chance? I like to play Wii Sports golf with my mom once in a while and would love something to change it up.
>>719842836Clap Hanz leaving Sony's plantation fucked the I.P. over.Then again, I forget if that Easy Come, Easy Golf release of theirs was good.
So its just a golf game with anime characters?What is its selling point?
>>719838762>buy game thinking i'm gonna be playing golf>i'm actually just playing hit orange bar>game actually just flat out ruins your shot if you don't hit the orange bar, sending it far left or right or just fucking your stroke entirelywow okay, no clue why my friend likes it so much
i miss the character editor
>>719860121Good fundamental mechanics, Hot Shots Golf (and by extension Mario Golf pre-SR, since Camelot made the first HSG before splitting off to make MG) are genuinely competently made golf games that stick to good fundamental mechanics.This new one seems to keep that core identity while adding a bunch of side modes to add more of a party appeal too.
>>719860121arcade golf...?what do you think the golf games selling point is?
>>719858649do you have a pc with hardware that isnt 5 years old?Then sure. EnjoyThats litterally it. I mean true the game doesnt look much better than a game from 10 years ago but thats the current MO for companies: shoddy coding being offset by better hardware.
>>719828339>Ai art>I believe no confirmation of JC DentonWhy would anybody care?
>>719860367There are sims, RPGs, goofy golfs.Plenty of variety. What is better about this that the latest PGA tour or whatever has?
>>719860528Wait fuck I mean Adam JensonjC Denton would be cool as well though
>>719829368>Wanting gachashit infesting other gamesThey better not fucking expect me to know the magica record shit for Walpurgis rising
>>719829368we got pacman nigga
>>719860559>RPGsThe only ones I can think of are the Mario handheld entries, which stopped being made after GBA, and Powerful Golf, which is Japan-exclusive and uses the PowerPros lifesim format. Beyond that there's Golf Story which is solid and its very bad sequel. It's worth mentioning outside of Powerful Golf, all of these games are 2D. This side of golf games is pretty dormant unfortunately.>goofy golfsThis is the niche Hot Shots is supposed to fill while also being serious as a game mechanically. Lots of offbeat course designs that wouldn't exist in a raw sim golf game, and in this entry specifically there's a lot of side modes to do sillier things.The arcade golf genre's also in a pretty dire state right now since Hot Shots was dormant for almost a decade, Mario Golf shat the bed with Super Rush, and Sony cutting Japan Studio and by extension Clap Hanz meant ECEG had to be more of a low budget title, so there's genuinely a hole to fill in this genre.
>>719832227>>719832382>deck>running any modern games that aren't 2dlol
>>719856686Because the ps3 was the peak of 3d visuals.
>>719828339I'd rather enjoy the new patch for Easy Come Easy Golf. A game that's actually by the og devs.
>>719862609I wish ECEG had background music for courses and more modes that let you stick with a character instead of having to alternate per hole.
>>719832227So my ally can run it at 30fps whilst sounding like a jet engine? Damn. Ill wait for a switch 2 sale
she cute
Are the buffs from food permanent or only for that game? Also, how the hell do special shots work, I've only ever had them available in the tutorial
>>719845608Yes, the game revolves around progression through unlockables.
>>719862998Did she shit on the green
>>719846827You have to use the analog stick(or mouse?) to aim downward while moving forward.>>719847359Are there not graphics settings? You can turn it down.
Are the food bonuses temporary? If not, I'll just leave it alone.
>>719863462Ermmm thats the tee area
>>719854618 5 is the best one
I've always been more of a hotshot tennis guy
>>719862998
>>719828339Golf? What do i look like an old rich fat fart to you?
>>719863746But 6 is the best one and its a crime only Japan got a physical release
>>719863930That's not true. The vita version had a cartridge option.
>>719860559Zoom zoom retard
>>719864715The vita sucks ass and everyone that owns one has an adapter in the cartridge slot so they can use sd cards
>>719864819>I want [game]>Vita has [game]>no, not like thatWhatever. I enjoyed it. Played Open Tee 2 on my Vita as well.
>>719863739why would you drink tee on a golf course
>>719862674>instead of having to alternate per hole.That's the primary reason why I didn't buy it.
>>719864969I already have the game on a disc for the ps3 that i regularly play on rpcs3
Why is pacman allowed to shit on the course
I'm having fun but it feels like a downgrade from the ps4 game for sure. I hope they fix the performance at least, because holy fuck is it rough.
How the hell do you do the super back spin in this game if they removed using the dpad for adding spin?
>>719865691You either set the spin before you hit or you can change it in the options for using a directional input while charging the shot
>>719863540Theyre permanent and you should probably use them because if your stats are lower than required for your club the accuracy zone on your shot bar is smaller
>>719865937how do I get these fancy special moves going on without the directional input option? Like sure I can give my ball a spin but it never stops and smooves backwards
If you spam down on the dpad pacman starts jerking off his eye brows
>>719862998>>719863864That shot was cringe!
>>719865691Use the classic controls preset and you can still use dpad for spin.
So are character unlocks tied to world tour and challenge mode? I played for like 2 hrs last night and didn't get anyone
>>719869112Yes
>>719857089Rosie from Easy Come Easy Golf
>>719828339All the pedos from /v/ are instantly attracted to the game when they see the little girl on the jacket
>>719861364It's incredible how arrogantly Sony shafted Claphanz after over 20 years of partnership. They were up there with Polyphony in terms of reliability.
>>719831649Only God is allowed to design trees
>>719869407i'm only in it for the teen idol with the infectiously bubbly personality
It is cracked yet?
>>719869757My dick cracked a thunderous boner when I saw ailes pantsu
>>719828339I was looking forward to it but>40€>mixed reviewsuh yeah... I'm not sure about it
>>719843358The golfers
>>719843358me when I jerk off
Do any of the stats make the perfect shot zone bigger? I can't hit it for shit in this game
is the anti aliaising bugged?I have everything maxed with 2k resolution and its jagged as fuck
>>719872680Maybe, I thought it was funny that the settings were just on or off
I want to beat a cute girl to death with a golf club but I will never get to do it sadly...
why is the camera so fucking low?is there a way to change this?
>>719872874ah left dpad changes camera view
>>719872874It's right stick on controller. Maybe arrow keys?
why can't I change the audio to japanese? I don't want to listen to retarded mutt dialogue and voice!!!
im trying to find some other japan golf games for ps2 but none of ps2 databases list any besides american stuff and hot shots/ everybodys golf which i know isnt right because i know there was more ps2 japan golf games but i cant find them now :(
>>719873117Thats so cringe
>>719853917>>719851978you could just pirate this new one you know
>>719873117you can, but the dialogue is horrible in both languages
>>719873413the music is just as horrible. is this some ai generated garbage
>>719873413>you canwhere though? the option isn't there on the switch version
>>719873642get it on pcima put the voice volume to zero
>>719873956>get it on pcno, thank you.
>>719873956Why the fuck is this not on the console versions
so which spin makes the ball stop faster when it lands? I thought its the bottom spin but im not sure now
>>719874292it's over
>>719874128Ok peasant
>>719857251Dammit, why didn't they just make a new game?
>You can totally cum on me!Why does she keep saying this?
>>719874558why are you mad?
the artstyle for characters is so ugly. looks generic.
is there a way to make precision aiming?the stick deadzone is killing me even the slightest tap moves like crazy
>>719842836>Don't port to PC>game underperformsMany such cases
>>719874736looks like a massive upgrade to me.
>turn on japansese voice>announer says "nice shit" instead of nice shot
>>719875019bottom right is top tier tho
>>719875019i actually prefer the first one. its sort of unique but obviously japanese. the rest are just generic modern anime girls.
>>719874367Backspin makes fly higher and roll less. And vice versa. If you do super topspin/backspin it makes it roll forwards/backwards extra with a flame trail.
>>719874784classic controls preset gives you dpad aiming
>>719875373How do i make super versions with the new system?
>>719832227>>719861791Gets about 40-50fps on rog ally at 18watts and 900p. Doesn't seem to hitch too much but that might be due to vrr.
where's the switch 2 version
I wanted to play, but my GPU makes so much noise, and this game for some reason demands a lot from it, so I don't know what to do.>>719875418I don't understand how it works either. Do you have to make a perfect shot? Sometimes I get super backspin, but I don't know what I did differently.
>>719863462She just lost her virginity to me.
>>719828339This looks incredibly generic.And I said that as spmebody who really enjoyed Everybody's Golf on the PS4.
>>719828339Tell me why I should play this instead of the VR games Ultimate Swing Golf or Walkabout Mini Golf.
>>719875901
>mixed reviews>most negative reviews are in Japaneseit's so fucking over bros
>>719875756Benis
>>719847601Pacman sweeps
>>719876105The negative reviews I'm reading on Steam seem to come from people that either>haven't played the series before>are in desperate need of a handholding tutorial>Have computers that can't run the game wellI don't understand how you can complain that the characters in this game are animated. I am seeing mentions of some bugs, though, and I'm wondering if that's consistent across the board. I haven't noticed anything odd.
>>719875901It's quite different from Ultimate Swing Golf, and even from Easy Come Easy Golf, which is the basis for Ultimate SG.I think Easy Come Easy Golf is more polished since you don't have problems like not being able to adjust where you're aiming because the controls are too sensitive, for example. The effects are better too, the feedback, and everything in ECEG is better done.But Everybody's Golf Hot Shots is more difficult at first. All shots in it require at least some concentration so you don't miss, while in ECEG, with the stick, you can place the ball exactly where you want it on virtually every shot you take.
SHES ONLY 16!
This game has everything working against it in terms of popularity and good press>Already niche because zoomoids hate golf because they associate it with orange man and elitism >Silksong completely overshadowing it>AI fearmongering and misinformation dominating the actual conversations surrounding the game>Mixed Steam reviews for various reasonsWatch Sony see this flop and decide no one wants their Japanese IPs anymore, even when multiplat.
>>719876619>I don't understand how you can complain that the characters in this game are animated.I think that people are complaining because the characters sometimes keep moving during the shot preparation. That's really annoying.Besides, I think Clap Hanz is a step above in terms of animation quality. Easy Come Easy Golf is a kinda lower-budget project for mobile phones, but even so, the animations are super detailed and well done, full of personality, at a level above this new game from Bandai-Namco.
does the switch version run like ass on switch 2 or is it playable
>>719855067Must every single game do this whole running stanima meter bullshit? Has anyone ever thought: I SURE LOVE RUNNING FOR THREE SECONDS, WALKING, THEN RUNNING AGAIN!
Is the putting fucked or do I just suck?
>>719876848It's not even the first time Bandai Namco has sabotaged their own game by falsely saying it use generative AI. They put the disclaimer on the latest Taiko game because it has fucking Vocaloid songs in it. I don't know if they genuinely don't understand what it means or they someone think it'll help sales by doing thism
>>719876908According to a video I watched, it's bad on Switch 1, but playable on Switch 2, but I don't know if it's reliable. The guy just comments on it without making any comparisons in the video.
>>719828589>>719838402
>>719877027its difficult, takes some practice but you'll get it anon, always compensate for whats on the green because the pin flag on the power bar is just a direct distance to the pin not taking in any considerations to the slope, angle, etc of the green, i always go over the flag when choosing my power, even when the hole is downhill
why does it force me to put from here lmaoI would prefer hitting 1 more before put
>>719877046I'm thinking it's the latter. Shareholders love AI so customers must love it too, instead all it gets you is deranged trannies flooding the steam discussion forums.
>>719876848>Silksong completely overshadowing itI don't think that affects a niche game.
>>719877268You're on the green. You have to putt.
I suck at putting too
>>719876848You forgot:>Bamco>Kernel EAC>shitty optimization>>719877046I wonder if Steam has just translated it wrong in whatever relevant developer documentation there is. Like maybe it uses the phrase automated computer generation (although that seems way too broad).
>>719877387You gotta use the speed of the grid lines to determine how much you need to veer to the left or right.
>>719877387you were hitting it too straight, remember to check those dots and learn to read them, that means there is a slope so you have to compensate hitting it to the right.
>>719877268you never use a club on a green, this is a gentlemans game
>>719877484>>719877487the lines were green and slow. thought I can go lil straighter. gotta respect the green lines more it seems
What does "special" mode do? Normal and power modes are self-explanatory, but I don't understand special mode yet.>>719877268Normally, this type of thing is done so that players don't abuse the system and completely bypass putting. They force you to putt on the green no matter the distance, which creates somewhat ridiculous situations where it's better to hit the ball off the green depending on the distance. In Easy Come Easy Golf, you'll do this all the time, because the players' favorite clubs make the ball follow the hole, so you often shouldn't play the ball on the green.This problem also occurs in simulators. I remember that one of the successors to Golf Club had the problem of players simply not using putter even on the green because the chances of success were much higher using other clubs.
yo this afk camera is going places
>>719876848>>Already niche because zoomoids hate golf because they associate it with orange man and elitismWho gives an actual fuck about that?>SilksongSee above>AI fearmongeringI'm going to say it again>Mixed reviewsThis actually means something.>>719877387You'll get a feel for it. Don't worry about it.
>>719877578I hate the black color #000000 they put on the girls' thighs.Note that it's not tight shorts, it's literally a black censorship stripe, like the ones you find on censored documents. I understand why the devs do this, it makes it clear that they've been censored and that it's not their fault, but it's so ugly. I'm going to modify the game as soon as someone starts modeling pussies and dicks and panties for the characters...
Can you make a custom character and unlock outfits and stuff?
>>719877789>unlock outfitsI don't know yet. That seems to be the case.>custom characterNo, thank god.
>>719876787
>pirated and got the preorder bonuses>get the "unlocked pac man pre order bonus" pop up at start>pacman is not selectable character atleast in the world tour modewhat gives?
>>719877387You see those lines? The faster they go, the more it'll curve that way. Just compensate appropriately. If they're going fast to the left, aim more to the right. You'll sink 30yard putts in no time.
>>71987757816 years old..................
when do we unlock the special shots?it just skips trough it so far in world tour
>>719877918you need to complete the tutorial
>>719878019what kind of backward ass design is that?im already far in world tour moderetarded devs
>>719877760theyre literally spats retard you see them everytime the wind blows while they take a shot
>mfw the sheer number of shots I'm messing upIt's going to take a while to get used to impact again. I can't even use gauge shot anymore, lol. Sticking to advanced for now.>>719877918I think you're supposed to do part of the tutorial first.
>>719877387it's trial and error so you'll get used to it over time or not since I still play World Invitational at least twice a month and still sucks mosts the time at it too.
your golf game sir
>>719878107>>719877983we did it reddit
>>719877564>What does "special" mode do?It's different for every character, check in the pause menu
>>719877831>No, thank god.Why would this be a bad thing? I want to make cute gyaru
>>719878198>not playing on the fast mode that skips all the yapping parts of the tour
>>719878054shove a golf club up your ass piratefag, your opinion on the game is worthless
bnnuy
>>719877760Well, I don't know what to tell you because I sampled two main colors from her spats and none of them are anywhere being pitch black and have blue dark tone to it. And that character in question always had spats, even in the oldest minna no golf games.
>>719878198>annoying teenager character talks like an annoying teenager
>>719878340BRAAAAAAAAAAAP
I don't think anon needs the whole thread telling him how to play. He'll get it with time. Not to mention there's a literal tutorial and hints sprinkled throughout the game.>>719878271The series was designed around unique characters with strengths and weaknesses that you base your style of play around. It wasn't meant for blank slates with custom builds. You could unlock accessories, hairstyles, and outfits, but there wasn't an avatar character. I prefer it that way.
Anyone here play the Hot Shots Tennis games? They any good?
>>719878436Is there at least a girl character with a darker taint that I can turn into a gyaru?
So is it good? I like Hot Shots and Everybody’s Golf 2017, even enjoyed that Easy Golf game though it was low budget
>>719877991It's based on your character's level. You can check all the level up rewards from the data(?) screen on the main menu.
>>719878530I don't know, m8, I only have 3 characters so far.>>719878461Yeah, they're pretty great.
>>719878530>>719878271shes already in
>>719878316>ai generated
bros, where I should go to punch the faggots at Bamco that didn't added the jap voice on console versions?
>>719878738switch has it. sucks to be a snoy ig
>>719878546I was only able to play for 57 minutes, but I think it's good. There are caveats. There are things that aren't quite polished. The controls are sometimes too sensitive, and there are some effects that I think are terrible, like the stutter when you hit a perfect shot. I also hate the feeling the game gives during putting, it seems like there's a mismatch between the sound, the player's club, and the speed at which the ball moves. It's very unpleasant, I don't know how to explain it, it reminds me more of a pool simulator than a golf simulator.
>>719878813>switch has itthis faggot doesnt tho??>>719873642
>>719849000>Can you hostKek. You'll get matchmaking sloppa and like it.
Sooo are we gonna play online together at some point?
>>719878926with no crossplayso dead on arrival
>>719878581Oh great, I thought they weren't that popular anymore, so I didn't think they'd have one. Okay this game is getting interesting
>>719878581b-bro, she's 12. and that's a good thing
I want to like this game more than I do, some things that bother me.>It's not nearly as pretty as it should be>The UI is kinda ugly and look amateurish in places>The music is kinda generic and boring, I remembered everybody's golf music being better>The caddy sliding across the map is bad, I get the joke their going for with the out of breath animation but I duno if it's a bug but they just slide across the map, they need a running animation to seal the deal on the joke>Too much is locked at first, I'm not usually bothered by having to unlock stuff but weh>The whole game is very stiff feeling>No way to communicate in online play, chatting with randoms while you play online might have been comfyGame just lacks polish all around, it's a shame, I'm gonna keep it and play it but I think I'll not bother trying to get my friends to buy it too, they already don't dig golf as much as me.Also they should have just had both forms of adding spin available, make it settable but you can also adjust during your shot and it'll overide your initial spin input, sometimes I forget to set it before I hit A and then I remember during my shot but it's too late, no reason you couldn't just have both options simultaniously.
This review touched on some good points.The ball's flight is indeed a bit strange, but it may just be an optical illusion caused by the way the camera follows the ball.
>>719877760>anon learns what clothing is
>>719879197qrd on fore? is it as good as world invitational?
Why does using classic control style give you a shittier camera? I'd love to use that spin style, but the camera is just so awful, why is that even linked to the control style?
>>719828339god I fucking love golf
>>719879469I tried the classic too and hated itwent back to modernit is what it is
sweaty palms
>>719877268Please don't destroy the green, anon.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>719879891For a moment I thought you had started the shot with one character and ended it with another.
>>719877564>>719878232The most useful ones basically let you bypass the putting skillcheck, funnily enough.
>>719878813>switch has itWhere?
im doing the tutorials right now and the classic control spin gives out the flaming backspin all the time while modern controls never do itim have fucking idea how to do it on the modern one
>>719847359game looks 15 years old
>>719880682>im have fucking ideaI have no fucking idea*
the silly characters in the first Hot Shots Golf games were better than the playskool dolls in the Japanese release, and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>719880682Might be locked to a certain level or maybe your spin stat needs to be high enough or something, idk
>>719880872why were you pretending in the first place? are you a faggot?
>>719880872what the fuck is going on here?some emulator filtering?
>>719872680might be bugged in the menues because it doesnt look that bad ingame
>>719881156yeah I noticed its fine ingamemenus are fucked up
>>719875625I think you need to unlock it per character.Also what the fuck is the first unlock? there is no explanation
>>7198794601 and 2 are the classic era. 3 and 4 are the golden age. 5 and 6 are the silver age. 2017 and Minna no golf world are the slop age
post the rune release
>>719879469>>719879545Rebind shoot from circle to XRebind camera forward/backwards from l2 and circle to triangle and circleYour game now controls like hot shots golf 3/4
>>719881312shot!
>>719881467
>>719881312>>719881467In the video game Everybody's Golf (formerly Hot Shots Golf), a "triangle/circle shot" refers to a fine-tuning mechanic for adjusting power at impact. By pressing the triangle button or circle button instead of the standard X (A/Y) button on the third impact, players can slightly increase (triangle) or decrease (circle) the shot's power, which is only available after reaching a certain loyalty level, such as Rank 2
>>719881458Is there a way to make the custom controls use the dpad spin system?
Does this game at least have the chill elevator music from previous games? All the games always felt so relaxing because of it.
>>719881621whoever thought its a good idea to change catcy name like hot shots golf into EVERYBODYS GOLF is a fuckinf faggot
>>719881558I just realized Once Upon a Katamari is probably going to have EAC because of online MP too.
>>719881651it has really shit music thats propably AI generated if thats what you like
>>719881651the music is pretty generic in this one
>>719881749say it aint so>>719881683was it not always a japan/rest of world thing?
>>719881645Click the button to edit the custom controls and then click the same button again to reset the layout and then elect classic
it's mid
>>719881754>>719881790>>719881947Damn the tendies are out in full force this morning
>>719881754>>719881790Well, that's a shame. I played 4 and 5 for so many years, I'll wait to see if they can improve the performance before considering it.
I dont understand this LIE tutorial
>>719881982brother stop coping
>>719828339>No wonder the only golf games we get in the big 25 areNo cameltoe, no buy
>>719881982I got the game for free for pc and the music is abysmal
>>719881947so emulate the PS2 ones like I'm back in the days when I was young I'm not a kid anymore but some days I sit and wish I was a kid again, back in the days when I was young I'm not a kid anymore, but some days I sit and wish I was a kid again?
>>719882036If your lie is 75% your shot will be at 75% power. If your lie is 97-100% depending on your spin your shot will be 97-100% power
>>719882154truth nuke
>>719882170where should I place the spin if the orange gauges are like in the picture for example?its the gauges on the ball that I dont quite grasp
>>719877387
>>719881982>anything anything tendiesObsessed
the rain effects make her skin shiny
the perfect shot feels unsatisfying, they tried to do some hitstop thing but it feels like you're doing a charles barkley stuter swing
>>719880987Probably some retard putting a low res version of the image through an "AI upscaler" instead of just finding an appropriate resolution image.
>>719882256I think the bars just show you how effective the spin can be
>>719882585>shirt not translucent
we got a birdie with pacman
\Ting/
I haven't played a golf game since PS2, should I get Easy Come Easy Golf or this new one?
>>719883754>Easy Come Easy Golfis that nintendo shits exclusive?what a shame
This thread is in the trap!
>>719878232I have the 6l club activated but still cant use the special shotso how the fuck do you use them?
new thread>>719884182
>>719884028You have to hit a certain level with the character. I think it's like level 11 or something.
>putting a lot of backspin will lower shot accuracy and make wind effects stronger>lots of topspin will mitigate wind speed>hit harder if the target is on a higher trajectory>hit softer if going downhill>use food to permanenty increase stats>you need perfect impact in order to get super back/forward/side spinNow post your mains.
