Was vidya really better in the past or is it just nostalgia?
Both
>tranime
Yes it was. 2nd post would get publicly banned, m00t would interact more with the website and try to improve somehow, anons used to be less annoying back then too. No bots, no boring race baiting ritualposting, no reddit screen caps, etc.
>>719849865This is all true and depressing.>>719849597Tranime website.>>719849492VIDEO GAMES were better in the past too, yes.Lol.
>>719849865>No bots
>>719849492>MOOTWHO?
>>719850094True, his name was moot. Lol.
remember when you thought moot would appear again sometimes
It was equal but it was better for consumers. You actually owned games and they didn't take 5+ years to develop.
>>719849492Overall? Yes and it's not nostalgia, but they still make good games, they just take less risks than before
It depends on what you enjoyMy favourite game is from mid 2024 so I'd say no
>>719850057>Tranime website.anime website
>>719849865>anons used to be less annoying back then too.That's some rose-tinted glasses, right there. We pissed each other off all the time back then. The only difference was the ammunition we used. We went from saying "the game you like is shit" to saying "this pozzed game is good, actually, chud!"
>>719850094the model they use for the /hm/ banner
>>719850203>We went from saying "the game you like is shit" to saying "this pozzed game is good, actually, chud!"past was infinitely better then
Used to be amazing but this place has been an open secret for a while now, susceptible to corpo shills, coordinated trolls, and indians.
>>719850202>>Tranime website.>anime websiteTranime website.
>>719850203He's right, post irony is infinitely more annoying than sincere assholeness.
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Yes.
>>719850406Despite the downward trajectory in 2012, people still had conversations about video games back then. I remember threads up to 2015 where people would genuinely interact with each other. The thing I really hated back in 2012 was everything being labeled as "autistic" though. It was the new thing. Everyone and everything was labeled as "autistic". It's the equivalent of how people use "nazi" today.
>>719849492Everything was better when I was 15, yeah
>>719849492Thematically and tonally it absolutely was. Games also came out in a 95% finished state and weren't overhauled 6 months later. That is my main issue with modern games. I don't like the idea of playing a broken and unfinished game on release and if i want to play the actually proper version i have to play it again 2 years later.
>>719849492Vidya were made for children and young people. They were designed to be fun. Now the goal is to be politically correct and follow what surveys and investors say. They want the money of people in their 30s hence the movie-like games.So yeah, it was better in the past. It peaked with the PS2 era.
>>719849492Other than technology near everything went to shit. Games, music, movies, shows... but the best thing is that it has never been easier to experience old stuff. You can play old games with better faithful graphics, source ports without dealing with drivers etc... Watching whatever movies and shows on your TV at any time you want and listening any music you want. Point is that you CAN simulate soul.
>>719849492Shirobako is the greatest anime ever
>>719849492who?
>>719851515>normies>screencapping your own phoneposts
>>719850406>I feel the whole concept of lurking before you post has been lost to some extent.And 13 years later it's just fucking gone.
>>719849492Everything was better when I was a kid and it totally wasn't because I was more naive, ignorant and easier to please. Everything was just magically better.
>>719850094He's white Hiro or as I like to call him, Shiro
I miss pre 2016 internet like you wouldnt believe
>>719858750shiromoot
>>719852536wasn't 2012 the period of >tfw no gf spam?
>>719849492In a lot of ways, yeah.Shit was less corporatized in a lot of ways, and while the tech was shit it was advancing at a BLINDING pace for a while compared to today.It actually swept up the entire industry and caused devs to chase after raw capabilities and surface looks.Major franchises have unironically coasted on the success of their previous titles merely by having far greater graphics and memory capabilities, anon.Back in the start of the console wars devs were still optimizing so hard that they were actually ramming into the limits of the hardware, and the consoles were actually holding game development BACK.I was an Xbox kid, so I can easily point to several releases like Halo and New Vegas that were clearly held back by needing to work on the OG Xbox and the 360.
>>719858689>Everything was better when I was a kidnobody is saying that.
>>719859256I'm saying it, and I'm right because I'm me. What the world needs is a magical rewind time to when I was a baby and make it stay that way forever machine. Hate adultin'. Wan be baby forever.
>>719849492If you only remember the good ones
>>719857052And the new technology doesn't enhance anything, it's designed to make your life worse.
>>719858925Yes but also when people started spamming autistic everywhere
>>719859306"you" arent a person."you" are just a lie being written for (you)'sSo no.Nobody is saying that.
>>719849492yes and nostalgia plays a role like local splitscreen, midnight releases, and other things so it's really hard to be objective with modern vidya without shitting all over it
>>719859613everyone ITT says that doe
>>719859601yeah i know. i had a friend back then who loved to call everything autistic. he was a terminally online type
>>719859658>>719859306>I'm saying it
I just played ff10 for the first time ever. Didn't have so much fun in a decades time and the game is 25 years old now.Games were significantly better in the past to the point where I will just exclusively play old games from now on.
Depends on which past. In the Pong past there was a square being pushed around by two racist rectangles. Was this the pure ideal most people who have played a video game believe to be the goal?
>>719849492Was Annie
The past definitely had some shitty parts.>Games For Windows Live >if a game got released with bugs or glitches/crashes they were there for good, no updates or patches or hotfixes >brown and bloom filter dominated for a couple of years >had to physically get in line at 4 in the fucking morning to actually get your game on release That being said I still prefer it back then because datamining wasn't as popular, and internet communities weren't compromised by normalfags with phones.
>>719859895The square was the same color
>>719859895all squares are rectangles, dude.but man those controls were the most responsive things I ever touched in my life.Analogue dials went fucking crazy, bro.
Apparently there were some pretty kick ass games released in 2003 and 2007, enough to stop young men from killing themselves.
>>719857227It's definitely up there.
Yes and anyone trying to argue otherwise is a faggot.
>>719860312objective proof that our childhood was better lmao
>>719849492Some of it nostalgia, but a minor percentage. Go play old games you never played before and you'll see the truth.
>>719849492people were willing to eat a lot more shit back then
>>719849492AAAs maybe since they were more able and willing to try weird shit but there are still plenty of great games coming out
>>719859923Sounds like you're talking about 7th gen.
>>719857227Rare show that did workplace comedy/drama well.
>>719860532No.>>719860534Oh boy, here's the part where your "great games" is just a bunch of mainstream normalfag trash you were told to like.
>>719849492They were bettee
>>719849492Both. Some games released today are 100% better but overall it feels like shit because of the jeets, women, and trannies infiltrating the industry.
>>719849492I think that's a difficult question to answer, but what I do know is that it's not just nostalgia. It is the most annoying thing to play an old classic game for the first time and really like, but then be told it's just nostalgia.
>>719849492It was better. There was an irreverence to it all that you simply cannot recapture now that we're aware of it.Trying to recapture it is acknowledging it, and if you acknowledge it you can't recapture it, because IT is simply It, a sensation pure. Knowing it is an impurity.
>>719851515Authenticity only requires vulnerability when you care what other people think about your opinions. Stop doing that, especially for morons on the Internet.I'm serious. If you have good reasons for your opinion, someone dashing off a generic shitpost shouldn't move you at all. It's another matter if someone constructively disagrees, but you might notice that such posts tend to be less hostile in the first place.
>>7198603122003:Call of Duty, Freelancer, Warcraft III Frozen Throne, Tony Hawk Underground, KOTOR, Prince of Persia Sands of Time, Steam became a thing, Command and Conquer Generals, Rainbow Six 3 Raven Shield, Crimson Skies HRTR, Homeworld II, Morrowind GOTY, it was a stacked fucking year in numerous genres. FPS was in a new and exciting revolution with COD redefining the WW2 FPS, the Xbox was going strong, RTS was still a thing and going strong2007:Halo 3, Bioshock, Portal/TF2/The Orange Box, COD 4 MW, The Witcher, God of War 2, Crysis, WOW TBC, Assassin's Creed, Oblivion GOTY, Mass Effect, Europa Universalis III, Stalker SoC. I mean fuck it, just the first game there is enough to do it. Another stacked year. Console FPS was at a peak before unimagined. Casual RTS was unfortunately quite dead, but new strategy games were taking its place with Total War picking up traction and Paradox beginning its rise to prominence, RPGs were hitting the mainsteam in a way never before seen.Yeah. I don't think it is any exaggeration to say young men specifically did not kill themselves because of videogames in those years. Plenty of these releases on their own would be year defining games. Plenty are decade defining games, and they came out back to back to back.
Actually play games you never played before released between 1998 and 2005. And you'd see that even the mediocre games from then would be goty in 2025.
>>719849492Yes.The downturn started in 2000 with the fake console boom that caused the industry to shit itself to death over the course of the next 10 years, which may have resulted in a lot of games, but also resulted in a lot of shit and dead bodies that are still being shoveled out.All of the progress on PC got unprogressed by worse hardware and input methods, and there wasn't even any tentative VR development unlike the 90s, 2010s and 2020s, so everyone jumped to phoneslop instead.
>/v/ was better back in the d-
>>719862485It absolutely was. 2007 until the release of tor (tortanic) was the golden age of people caring about good games. Afterwards people only cared about bad games instead. Combine this with layers of irony, disingenuous arguments and the popularity of posting screenshots from social media it got fucked. The culture war hit when /v/ was already dead.Funnily enough /v/ in 2025 is somehow better than how /v/ was from between 2014 - 2022
>>7198616142000 to 2006 was the golden age of vidya. Games for anyone of any genre were in abundance and they weren't shitty games either.
>>719862485>Do you even play video games?>I have a ps3Subtle, excellent post.
>>719862485it was a joke then
>>719862485That image shows good humor, and a noticable lack of strawmen posts crying about someone unrelated like trump, trans, AI, jeets, chinese bots.
>>719862485They were joking, back then.
>>719849492A mixed bag. If a game was shit you weren't gonna get it fixed except super rare occasions. But they were usually solid, complete titles with only developer bullshit involved. Nowadays it's indies having to do shit that the big studios won't anymore, and monetization seeped into every single possible corner the industry can get away with - but for those who love graphics and spectacle there's no shortage of it, and the ability to hop into a co-op game with your friends is more efficient and quick than ever. You can argue that losing the couch afternoons of co-op and versus with your neighbors and friends sucks, but those never went anywhere for some parts of gaming either.I'd say the industry was in a better, less retardedly expensive and pointless spot trying to nickel and dime everyone for every penny possible, but having a massive rom collection of both games I grew up with and games I never touched, there's just some games that were never as timeless as others and really makes it clear that older gaming wasn't magically better in all regards.
>>719849492Everything was indeed better in the past, from food to life style to entertainment. Everything was made with more care and to appeal to customers. Now everything is made to be serviceable to as many consumers as possible and as fast as possible.Maybe that's rhe difference, people were customers not consumers.
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>>719862485>I have ps3
>>719859613I'm the only real person. I'm the only one who matters. The entire world was created just for me.
>>719859341The highs were definitely higher. The lows possibly lower but who cares. Subjectively, the highs were more numerous/were higher percentage of the total too. Much less design by committee. Fewer and less aggressive anti-user practices. I'll take entering a code word from a manual, for which someone has already made a list and posted on some forum, over all of the modern AIDS that has replaced it. And you can even get a cracked PE if you don't want to bother with that at all. You've bought the game already, the actual devs got their share after the publisher took whatever it wanted (also less than today from what I know). No microtransactions, no always online, yes LAN, rarer low level cancer that is essentially rootkits (starforce flopped miserably despite trying very hard), can easily back up your discs in case they get damaged or lost.
>>719859923>>if a game got released with bugs or glitches/crashes they were there for good, no updates or patches or hotfixesName 3. I can't think of a single game that never received patches. That it was more difficult to download a patch is a different matter. But expansions, which were usually actually substantial, had patches rolled into them so that wasn't a big deal.
>>719864289>wasn't magically better in all regardsThese questions/arguments are never about all regards. It's about overall then versus overall now.
>>719849492depends on how you lean, it will be or it won't, some will agree or disagree for some reasons, others will disagree or agree for other reasons.
>>719850094Sigourney Weaver. The founder of 9gag and Ebaumsworld.
>>719849492it wasn'tmillennials are coping
>>719862760>Funnily enough /v/ in 2025 is somehow better than how /v/ was from between 2014 - 2022The month long downtime heavily benefit the site and I will stand by that statement. It caused a lot of people to lose their interest in browsing here, ignore the site, find new daily haunts, and in general caused there to be better discussion and discourse even if it's still mostly trolls trolling trolls. If you've been browsing here for even a few years this should have been apparent, but that week or so after the downtime felt like '09ish /v/ at times (Which, don't get me wrong, wasn't amazing by any means but was a sight better than post '11ish). We're never going to get back to the glory days of '05-'07ish nighttime /v/ but it's better than it was before the downtime at least.
>>719867906The entire reason why we have captchas is because of Kimmo and later the .js box spam. I can't remember if it was Lanced Jack or Kimmo but one of them in particular got under moot's skin to the point that he posted their entire e-mail convo of asking to be unbanned, proceeding to spam more, then getting banned again and spamming his e-mail for hours asking why he was banned as a global notice where you could read all of it. Prior to that it wasn't really botted at all. We weren't even supposed to have the captchas permanently, moot said it was something temporary. Any day now.