Was fallout 3 judged too harshly?
>>719858995thank you for making these jfc
>>719858995No its pretty shit. New vegas was able to polish that turd so well that it turned to gold. Impressive really
>>719858995>female nightkin le badFiltered jeet
>>719858995Not harshly enough.
No. Bethesda's cult always protects it from the beating it deserves.
>>719858995No.
>>719861648Its lost a lot of that shit after saarfield
>>719858995>skyrim is ok at best>fallout 3 and 4 are mediocre compared to the fallouts not made by bethesda>starfield was a joke that everyone completely forgot about a year later>fallout 76 is horribleWhat exactly has bethesda done that is good in the last 20 years? If it wasn't for new vegas they would be defunct by now and thats not even their game kek
>>719861958New Vegas is their least successful game sales wise76 and Skyrim are the most profitable in the long run
>>719861996>least successful sales wise>The most culturally relevant to this day outside of skyrim jank memesIf im a dev I will take option 2 every day of the week
Without a doubt, best fallout game.
>I know that as a mutant I am immune to radiation but you should still sacriface yourself and fucking die because the writers said so>however then you will survive and carry on because Bethesda will get trashed for just ending the people's game right there without any option to continue or have post-game contentlol
>>719862605>you will never be as happy playing video games as this illiterate 'Jeet playing Brownout 3 and seeing a completely different game in his head
>Ending so bad that you have to retcon it in DLC and you write it in a way that makes it very obvious you are salty about itor>Multiple endings all kinoWhich one would you pick?
>>719858995it got a lot of unfair shit for its ending. people really don't like it when their self inserts get killed. Mass Effect 3 and Cyberpunk got the same treatment.meanwhile games like RDR kill of your established MC and get praised for it.
>>719863698the circumstance under which your MC gets killed is immensely idiotic if you have a rad immune companion though. picrel has been mocked endlessly, but charon and sergeant rl-3 give similarly asinine statements as to why they won't do it.
>>719863698The reason why people dont like fallout 3s end is because its fucking shit.
Fallout 3 was heavily praised upon release and NV’s reception was lukewarm by comparison (with people saying it’s a glorified expansion pack for 3 being a common opinion at the time).What happened for the common narrative to shift so dramatically? Was it really just video essayists doing historical revisionism?
>>719864961obsidians shilling departments trying to snatch fallout
>>719864961Trannies
>>719864961Everyone hated 3’s ending, even at the time. Broken steel was made because of the backlash.
>>719858995The Fallout stuff was shoehorned and badly executed. Wish we had Apocalypse Road instead
>>7198659633's ending is about you controlling the huge robot.It was an epic finale that people still remember with fondness.
>>719864961It was only praised by paid journalists and normie scum who never heard of fallout before.
Kill yourself jaknigger.
>>719866787>3's ending is about you controlling the huge robot.>controllingas much as you control the rest of the narrative in FO3 I guess
My little brother said only Indians prefer F3. We need new memes, gen alpha is catching up.
how many years of this do we need?
>>719866787>that people still remember with fondness.In what world does anyone remember anything about the ending except how stupid the supermutant thing is?
>>719858995Its not judged harshly enough given that you kind isn't lynched on the streets
>>719861165Has a million different shells that no one will ever use either because the game is so easy or because most people have a life so they won't waste hours of their life crafting the shit. There's a reason why fallout New Vegas is a tranny game. Trannies are the only people with that much time in their hands.
>>719861165dilate
>>719870706It's called "immersion", lil' Timmy. Back to your Fortnite.
>>719861165No, NV was still mediocre at best.
>>719866843NV is heavily carried by being a sequel to the first two games.
>>719858995Based high caste f3 enjoyer
>>719858995go away pat
>>719871026What immersion retard, they are just same bullet but different nameYou're treating it as if those shell actually works as intended
>>719858995Chadout3 is peak
>>719858995Nuh it's shitFallout 4 on the other hand does not deserve all the hate it gets, it's not bad.
>>719871602good morning sar
>>719871626Fallout 4 added crafting and shelters that detract you from the action by having to defend them constantly.Sadly this trend continued in starfield, another mediocre game.
>>719872006>Fallout 4 added craftingNV literally has more sophisticated crafting than Fallout 4>sheltersYou mean settlements? That's literally one of the things people asked back in Fallout 3 and NV.
>>719872306The implementation of settlements was terrible.People asked for many things like a normal engine finally but they keep using gamebryo.
>>719858995Nope it was judge to lightly its awful in almost every single fucking way.
>>719872375>The implementation of settlements was terrible.So why do people still continue to play it? I can agree that the implementation of settlements could be much better but it's still quite fun. Fallout 4 is literally more popular than Fallout 76 and settlements are one of the reasons why.
i only prefer 3 because NV has been shilled so hard that i'd rather enjoy a shittier game just to not associate with them.
>>719872804contrarian king
>>719861309The grandma nightkin companion always disgusted me. She was so gross and her lines were creepy.
>>719861996Skyrim got re-released like 5 billion times, dude.
>>719872907>She was so gross and her lines were creepyJust like real grandmas
>>719872907Who? Lily Bowen? She was voiced by a male voice actor, but she is a female character.
>>719861165The only good thing new vegas had over the others besides the story is the stoner mode, that shit actually made me jumpy back in my stoner days
>>719858995The fallouts shit slinging was always retarded.I'm an FNV fag. FO3 is objectively worse as an RPG because of an inferior quest design. But FO3 still has a huge place in my heart and its strength is its atmosphere and map. It's too bad that the story is very linear but how can FO3 be blamed for something FNV set the standard for in 3d games. FO4 deserves that scrutiny, not 3.
>>719875139The quest design of fallout 3 is not inferior and neither is the story.More words do not mean a better outcome for a game.New vegas is a terrible role playing game because it fails to put you in someone's role.You character is indiscernible from the other npcs.It does not offer a character creation, you can't be a mutant or a ghoul for example.By definition, it is not an rpg game.
>>719875139This is a 3jeet falseflagging
>>719871541>pulse slug to deal damage to robots and power armor>dragon's breath for fire damage>flechette against lightly armored opponents>bean bags are non lethals and deal knockout damage for situations like Gabe>slugs for armored targetsThat plus and stay back turns enemies into ragdolls. Now please tell me how much you enjoy shooting damage sponge super mutant overlords you retard.
>>719858995Good morning, saar.
>>719875482>New vegas is a terrible role playing game because it fails to put you in someone's role.dis nigga
>>719875482Fallout 3's story is objectively terrible
>>719863698I’ve noticed that accusations of self inserting are very common when defending absolutely retarded decisions.
>courier are pronouns are she/herSaar why didn't you reedem your english saar
>>719870706>different bullet types literally get explained to you how they work in Goodsprings the moment you walk up to Chet>still doesnt know how they workhonestly i see why you niggers like Fallout 3 and 4 so much
People really had no standards in the ps3/360 era.Its crazy how well received 3 was. All it took to get high scores back then was being a shooter and having an open world
>>719866787>It was an epic finale that people still remember with fondnessremembered so fondly nobody even remembers the final boss of Fallout 3people still talk about Lanius to this day, hell even the Master has more to talk about than Autumn
>>719864961People didn't realise what 3D Fallout could be. NV and 4 came out and now 3 just looks frankly embarrassing in comparison
Modern /v/ would hate New Vegas for being "liberal garbage" while praising 3 due to its blatant Christian symbolism.
"kill yourself for no reason because uhhhhhh destiny" will always be the worst finale in the series ever.they could have had you become separated from your companions or something. they could have put something between you and the button that prevented Fawkes from getting there in your place. but no. they didn't do any of that, because they wanted you to kill your character for no reason at all.
i always send in rl3
>>719876315>people still talk about Lanius to this dayNo they don't. Lanius is one of New Vegas's forgettable aspects. Frank Horrigan is the final boss that let the biggest impact and the one people talk about. He and The Master are the final challenges that are remembered because they're the perfect two sides of the Fallout coin.
>>719872006crafting and settlements are the game
>>719876634Legate Lanius is more memorable than Colonel Autumn.
>>719876762Being the second most forgettable final boss still makes it forgettable. New Vegas shouldn't have a final boss at all; it would have been a better use of its strenghts
Fallout 3 is objectively a bad game and because it was a lot of people's first Fallout and they have nostalgia for it they just call everyone who doesn't like it a tranny. They know there's no real defence>ugly as sin, even for the time>no builds>choices have no impact>most retarded story in the whole franchiseNew Vegas came out and did the story and role playing part miles better, then 4 did the actual gameplay and looting/crafting part miles better. There's no reason to play 3. It sucks.
>>719858995Yes but only because Fallout New Vegas exist, which is essentially just Fallout 3 (engine, assets, base mechanics) with a total conversion mod. Honestly, something about Fallout 3 rudimentary gameplay and shitty writting feels right to me, is clear that the goal was a jump from 2D to 3D just like GTA III was to GTA 2. Regarding the storyline, Bethesda writting always is in favor of gameplay diversity rather than complex or deep writting, everything is justified with the excuse of having "cool gameplay moments">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-kTXQ843k
The Master was the final boss that could be reasoned with so you could use your wits to find a non-peaceful solution. Horrigan was the the extreme polar opposite: a fanatical that couldn't be reasoned with and instead you had to use your wits to find a way to defeat him. Both Autumn and Lanius were a mediocre middle ground that tried to eat its pie and have it too: they were depicted as no nonsense fanatics like Horrigan... that somehow could be talked down.
>>719877106>>ugly as sin, even for the timeIt looks pretty good tho. The faces are awful, but overall it's pretty nice.
>>719858995>>719867015>>719875507>>719875785I don't come here often but what's the meme between jeets and fallout 3
>>719877242it's just a mix of green, brown and grey sludge. I can't recall a single area that made me stop to look around because it was beautiful
I liked it when I was like 10 years old but can't stand it as an adult
>>719861958Literally everyone loves Skyrim outside this jaded shithole
>Super mutant lore in Fallout 1-NV>It's the Master's creation dood>Super mutant lore in Fallout 3-4 >It's the government/corporation dood>BoS lore in F1-NV>Ex-military that hid in some base>BoS lore in F3-4>They just flew here dood>Enclave lore in F1-NV>They lived on an oil rig>Enclave lore in F3>They just flew here doodWhy can't Bethesda just make a good faction for once? They could make Fallout Mongolia and would still find a way to add Super mutants and BoS in the story somehow
>>719870706>>719871026Fallout NV is a tranny game because trannies love RPGs, the better the RPG the more trannies love it. I think it's literally because a lot of the trannies you see online still cling onto their nerdy male behaviors they had before transitioning. The dudebros and causals and married dudes with kids either play a FPS/Battle Royal like CoD, Overwatch, Fortnite etc or like one ultra normie game. MAYBE something like Last of Us or God of War or whatever. That's if they even play games. It's the major divide and a lot of people on 4chan find it difficult that the nerdier online trannies are often not normies, but far from it. That's why you see so many trannies in creative spaces. Music, Video Games, animation, etc.
>>719877226Lanius is a competent military commander (unlike Oliver) who is ambushing the dam with his best men. By the time that the Courier gets to him, most of his men have been killed, and the only way to persuade him to retreat is to persuade him that the Legion's logistics wouldn't be able to handle the Mojave (let alone California), like how the NCR is already stretched thin in the Mojave.
To an extent I'll forgive Bethesda. Deciding to go to the east coast to do their own thing instead of attempting to continue the west coast was a respectful move. That of course created a lot of problems since they wanted to use shit like mutants, BoS, radscorpions, etc. even if it makes no sense that they would be on the east coast. Their explanations why were pretty dumb, but they did try.
>>719876634>Lanius is one of New Vegas's forgettable aspects.nigger what fucking cave do you live in}Lanius is one of the most discussed Fallout end bosses, hell people even ask if hes in the upcomming seasons of the tv showwether you discuss him for being a absolute bastard or the memeworthy>YOU EAST THE WEST YOU CANT WEST THE EASThe is one of Fallouts most notable villians
>>719877707NV is called a troon game because redditors from the gamingcirclejerk subreddit seethe about some people preferring the west coast games to the east coast games, so since everyone hates troons, they try to associate NV with troons.NV is mediocre at best, even taking into account it being a sequel to the first two games.
>>719858995>>719862605>Trooned out mutants are literally allegory for achtuhualy trooned out men, similar to they dead by daylight "opsie"
>>719877597i honestly find it funny how the Fallout 4 fanbase is memeing the only decent faction of the game (despite being absolute retards who cant do anything until the VD came along) into the NCR of the East because Bethesda literally hasnt done anything original with the East and even the fanbase is slowly catching onto that
>>719878351>only decent faction of the gameThe BOS are also based. There's nothing stopping the Sole Survivor from siding with the BOS and helping the Minutemen with settlements.
>>719862605There is so much inaccurate retardation here I don't know where to begin.
>>719858995F3 chaotic evil mutants were ass, FNV insane mutants were boring.The retards from 1 were the best. they were so easy to fool and it was a joy to destroy them and their master without shooting a single bullet.
>>719877276Some ESL made the F3/NV meme images like OP and people attributed them to jeets.F3 is banned in india anyways.
>welcome member to our *little* Enclavehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9AP8wVaX-YHOLY FUCKING KINOThis game is fucking great>muh redditors tell me it's bad very bad and only fascist scum play itBullshitPLAY AS THE ENCLAVE IS THE BEST THING EVER
>>719864961>NV’s reception was lukewarm by comparison Part of the issue with NV was how broken it was on release and how absolutely fucking horribly it ran. Even now, if you're playing unmodded you have to walk on eggshells while playing the game because just fast traveling in the wrong place at the wrong time or entering the wrong door at the wrong time can break quite a few quests because of critical bugs that Obshitian never bothered to fix. Fuck, there's an entire perk that's made useless because of a simple typo that Obsidian never bothered to fix even though it would have been a simple matter of just correcting the typo.
New Vegas sisters...
>>719876297If you look at fallout 3 not a strict sequel to 1 and 2 but a 3d interpretation of the game world, it becomes a great example of how turn based and real time can be combined to create an action rpg.And while it is not a pure rpg game, it is much better than all of the action games with rpg elements we have today (rpg element=bar to fill).
>>719880097The only memorable thing about Vault 11 is that the sacrificial chamber has a game-breaking bug where the game freezes (and freezes your entire system if you are playing in fullscreen) if the Courier is wearing any clothing/armour and if the Courier doesn't immediately VATS everything to death when the doors open.
>>719861165>Nog JeetassNice opinion, did you get it from youtube or reddit
>>719880207>The different robots in Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 3 difference the taste of their playersGo to sleep, anon. You're tired.
>>719879945>F3 is banned in india anyways.To be fair, that does kind of reinforce the idea that these are made by some angry pajeet. All the images he makes are extremely inaccurate. It's like they're based on some grand delusion of what he THINKS Fallout 3 is like and about rather than what the game is actually like.
>>719858995Fallout ended at Tactics. COPE and SEETHE Elderscrolls with Guns-Toddler.
>>719880550Seethe new reddit
>>719880517>NV having different types of ammunition is an opinion from another websiteRetard. Hardly anyone actually used the special ammunition, but it was still in the game.
is this the Think like a brilliant thread saars?
>>719879945Wasn't it discovered he was italian?
>>719880652>brotherhood of steel>fighting the Chinese
>>719880652The Enclave were mere remnants of a forward outpost after their main base was blown up by the Chosen One. The BOS and the NCR fought together against them.The Mojave Chapter were a small part of the BOS that were defending a hard-to-defend solar power station against a mediocre semi-industrial army with much greater numbers. The main war in California is a stalemate.The Fiends are using defensible ruins and a Vault as their base and they have energy weapons.Service rifles are refurbished, not used straight away.The NCR has at least one Vertibird. The NCR's main supply lines are diesel trains, not just caravans.One of the advantages of guns is that they don't need much training.The NCR's outposts do have supplies. What they lack is manpower.
>>719881136It's more fun to pretend he's a pajeet
>All this petty fighting between two games that so are similar that people modded FO3 into New VegasYou people have to be insane to constantly be arguing about the same shit for years.
>>719880652>Mojave BoS>vertibirdsNigger, they're just some uppity faggots hiding in a bunker harassing people to hand over any prewar technology they find "because it's too dangerous"
>>719858995No, it was shit
>>719881620it's ONE guy
>>719858995no
>>719881679>>719881735Wrong
>>719881229Anon? They live in former USA military bunkers.
>>719858995It was cool how you gained a reputation among super mutants, they go from >I will eat your brainsTo >ahhhhh you killed him
>>719881772keep posting these, i lost my collection.i heard it was some italian who made them, not a jeetof course, that could just be NV tranny schizo rambling
>>719881960FALLOUT 3 IS THE MOST KINO STORYTELLING
>>719881871In my defense it's hard to understand anything this fucking pajeet writes since he can barely string together any semblance of a sentence in English.
>>719882030
>>719881229He probably meant that the US military was expecting a deeper invasion than just Alaska and the facilities were built with that scenario in mind.
>>719882076
>>719858995Todd and Emil haven't killed themselves yet so no it wasn't judged harsh enough
>>719881772>Nipton in NV>A city
>>719882139But my lone wanderer and courier are the same character, using tale of two kinos
>>719882139
>>719882030>Literal mod
>>719881772If FO3 was good in any ways, you wouldn’t be trying this hard. /thread
>>719882076>Khans>Peacefully protestingYou are a secondary that got your opinions from Reddit.
>>719882263
>>719880652The protagonist of 2 took out an Enclave oil rig, and he was a tribal savage
>>719882347YOU ARE THE REDDIT
who makes these?
>>719864961>Was it really just video essayists doing historical revisionism?Not completely but it played a big factor. The Hbomberguy videos being the catalysts. New Vegas became the "smart" game to like and it attracted a bunch of midwits who thought that shitting on FO3 while sucking off NV made them look intelligent. But it seems they ain't intelligent enough to realise they were being fucked with by a dude who barely spoke english. So much so that his dumb gigachad memes are still huge (you) machines.
>>719882126But BoS is a very specific and small group of soldiers who rebelled against the US govt after witnessing the inhuman experiments in Mariposa. They slaughtered the scientists who performed human experiments and then Roger Maxson broadcasted to the US Govt that he's "seceding" from it shortly before the nukes.There are no "pre-War BoS bases".
>>719864961I enjoyed both games, and new vegas worked on my 360. Not my problem
Fallout 3 hate DEBUNKED
>>719882139Lily Bowen is a literal grandmother.Cass is 37 year old alcoholic used goods.Veronica was already a dyke.The deathclaw is from a mod.Doing quests in a RPG is not simping.
I find those charts funny because on top of being ridiculous there is some true on them
>>719882468Not everyone watches your youtubers. Hmm let me see what asmongold has to say about this. Pathetic
>>719880652it's insane how literally not a single section of this image is correct
>>719882553I like these, keep posting
Reminder: You need a high IQ to understand Fallout 3
>>719882263You explicitly aren't meant to kill Harold, especially not by burning (even though you can), dumb secondary.
>are pronounssaar...
>Megaton city doesn't maek sen-ACK!
>>719882618>There's exceptions so the rule doesn't exist
>>719858995Not harshly enough. Just tried replaying it recently since I loved it as a kid and my only conclusion is that it, and 11 year old me were completely retarded.
>>719858995No,. Just because a later entry in the series is a bigger pile of shit doesn't mean the older games are less shit.
>>719882353>NRClmao imagine.The NCR actually doesn't reward the Courier that well. Most of the pay comes from selling loot from dead raiders and legionaries. Also the radio is useless, and the girl is from a mod.You are pretending to have been filtered by 3 and boasting about it, which is reddit behaviour.
>>719882368Fallout 2 and new reddit not canon
>>719864626If you have two options:>Save everyone and you live>Save everyone and you dieChoosing the option that results in your death does not make you heroic or noble or "making a sacrifice", it just means you're fucking retarded
UH OH
>>719882353>can't have companion until the end of the game>Charon>DogmeatAlso the companions you get for having good karma are unbelievably overpowered (especially Fawkes) compared to every other companion in the game.Also you can still get plenty of caps on a good playthrough. Just get the fortune finder perk.
>>719882934IS OF YOU'RE DESTINYTRANNIES WOULD OF NOT UNDERSTANDINGS
>>719882508True. I meant the bases that the BOS use were originally US military bases.
>>719882595Funny how it ignores Red Lucy and Sarah.
>>719882958
>>719882353based, thanks fo3chad
>>719882608>there is some true on themItalian bro...
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Golden Enclave lore:Year 23334 factionsFederation of American Steel>Control all East Coast from Florida to Quebec>Federal governament where different local governaments are under a military governament of BoS>Capitol Washington DC>Leader Elder-President Arthur MaxsonGolden Enclave - formely United states of America>Control most of inside american area from Appalachia to Alaska>Oligarchic Governament under a President elected by vault 76 gang>Capitol Chicago>Leader The President and Modus as segretary of StateRepublic of Texas - The lone Star>Control All texas, Northen Mexico and southern Midwest>Democratic Republic created by The texan chapter of BoS evolved into this new state>Capitol Austin>Leader The President elected by the most popular party in a bicameral parlament elected by the PeopleP.R.C. - Popular Republic of California - The Red Bear>Control almost all west coast except Alaska and the northen half of Oregon>Communist dictatorship created by the Chinese Enclave spies>Capitol New Cohengrad(New Vegas)>Leader a puppet president under The Chinese Enclave of mainland China
>>719877707>this much of a copeNV trannies are Trannies because nerds back then had high test, drank beer and were willing to punch people."Nerds" aka the generation born in 1986-1989 who shills NV and all of obshittian's garbage drinks >pic, despises meat food, cow milk and derivates, shill the vegan faggotry and were grown without a fatherly figure in their lives and without the concept of punishment, they all were grown by incompetent single mothers who were watching oprah and put their kids to watch fucking barney, which is proven to be one of the catalysts of the tranny awakening, not even teletubbies did this damage against an entire generation.Also nerds back then were into hardcore shit and went to Beastie Boys concerts where mosh pits were a common and were watching ECW or WWF when Austin got over after WM13, Hell nerds back then were even drinking beer or eating Martinsville hot dogs at NASCAR racing weekends to chill out with others.
>>719883092>>Leader The President and Modus as segretary of Stateseggredary :DDDD
>>719883019kino
>>7198829581000 unique planets with this on it
>>719882825>>719883153>deleting your post because you attached the wrong picturetranny behavior desu ne
>>719882427it's a jeet that used to post them here before starfield bombed and the jannies kept blocking his IPs
>>719882618If you're as smart as you think you are you'd realise that I literally inferred that within the first sentence of my post, retard.
>>719882751>Boston to DC>On footAnon, the NCR have diesel trains and it's still considered far for them.
>>719883301You really overstate how many people played new vegas because of a youtuber. Most who played 3 played new vegas and vice versa
>>719883251>Deflecting this hard desu neBarney boys generational behavior
>>719882895>NiezschekekAlso funny how you didn't mention "Earth Abides" despite the Fallout 2 developers explictly basing Arroyo on that retarded book.
>>719882934You are not understanding because you are bloody bitch retard. Fucking shit face post you address now FUCKING COWARD BITCH FAGGOT I kicking you ass and then shit on your carpet bitch and fuck you dog
>Aggressively praise known kusoge such as Fallout 3. Insist Metal Gear Solid 4 (for example) was way better than all of the prior games. Bring up Dark Souls 2. Spam extremely low quality threads praising Pizza Tower.
>>719882751If you're trying to present your position as the correct and intelligent one, it would be a good idea to proofread your argument, even just once.This is well beyond a few typos or simple ESL issues. This is legitimately what I would expect to see from a stroke victim.
The problem with F3 is that while it has some amazing side quests the moment you get in the city itself the game becomes an "average day as an uber eats delivery guy in the NYC metro simulator". The main story is also trash and the only good DLC is The Pitt.
>>719864626>Charon, Fawkes and RL-3 are immune to radiation>Clover is a completely insane submissive slave.>Cross is an old moralfag paladin that is completely fine one of two youngest sacrifice their lives, both children of her old friends, instead of doing it herself.It's dumb for most companions to say no.Butch and Jericho are the only ones who should refuse, and maybe not even Butch depending on how indebted to you he still feels over saving his mom.
>>719883549>Kusoge>>>/vg/fgg is over there weeb
Praise the Fallout TV show, say that it's undeniably canon.Call Enclave supporters fascists. Call NCR supporters fags. Call House supporters lolberts. Call Legion supporters fags as well. Really just call anyone who plays New Vegas a fag.Call anyone who plays the older titles like Fallout 1 and 2 grandpa. Flex the superiority of Bethesda Fallout, especially the East Coast side of the franchise.Criticize Fallout: New Vegas. Call it terrible, call it a game made for trannies, call it a game made for redditors, say that it's badly coded and buggy, say that the story is badly written, say that Fallout 3 is better, say that Fallout 4 is better, say that the gameplay is clunky and difficult, say that the leveling system is badly designed, say that the concept of item durability is annoying, say that it has some of the worst RPG mechanics in the series, say that the factions are poorly designed, say that Caesar's Legion is comically evil, say that people only like it because they don't like Bethesda, say that if a game needs mods to be good, it's not a good game, and say that the graphics make your eyes hurt and are much worse than other games released at and before it's time.
>>719883549Pizza Tower is good.
NV is just the better game. By comparison, FO3 is like capeshit or marvel slop, it has its fans but they're fans because they're too stupid to know any better for the most part. I'm more interested in the FO3 vs NV revival these past couple years. The gigachad meme usage makes me think some indian finally played FO3, fell in love with it, and decided to be its strongest soldier.
>>719883019I like how poorly these have aged since Saarfield's release>my all bikini girl crewTurned out to be>MY MAN JAWED HAG COMPANION'S VITALS ARE... OH NO NO NO
>>719858995This shit has been getting reposted for long enough that now I have to assume most posters in these threads have not played any Fallout games at all and just want to shitpost mindlessly like retarded children.
>>719883382I was speaking on the consensus on the games, not sales or playtime. And if you're gonna argue that those Hbomberguy videos and others like them had zero impact on how discourse of these games are conducted online then you're delusional.
>>719883660the prydwen is getting destroyed in season 2
I like the exploration in Fallout 3 :)
I miss Shamus
>>719883834nta but your ecelebs aren't that important, honey.
>>719883832it's virtue signalling by brown righties with below average iqs that can't comprehend why the people smarter than them calling out trannies worked they think blanketing all discussion with tranny spam is just as smart without understanding any underlying logic
>>719884075>it's virtue signalling by brown rightiesIt's also just good ol fashioned posters pretending to be retarded for the lulz. Of course this emboldens the ESL actual retards to unironically defend their retarded stance.
>>719883660>it's badly coded and buggy>the story is badly written>the gameplay is clunky>the concept of item durability is annoying>the factions are poorly designed>Caesar's Legion is comically evilThis is all true. NV is mediocre at best.
totally organic guys.
>>719884657Weapon durability was just carried over from FO3 though. NV at least made it somewhat tolerable with the jury rigging skill
>>719883990To you and I, no they ain't. They still had an impact, no amount of aloofness on your part will change that.
>>719884683Obviously. The discussion only picked up last year because shills wanted to make hype for the TV show.
>>719884815Also repair kits, plus the items only start performing worse once a certain portion of item health bar is depleted.
>>719884815True, but it's still annoying.
Any fo game without ngs?
>>719877584Most people except for the CoDZoomers who discovered RPGs through Skyrim at least recognize it was deeply flawed.
>>719885063>ngsWhat's that?
>>719877584Skyrim is fine for one playthrough.
>>719884863todd will never learn
>>7198854353 and 4 aren't actually that bad, just mediocre slop. 76 and the TV show are crap.
TOTAL KHAN DEATH (apart from the noncombatants I guess)
>>719882751>virgin mine of technology>100 years heavy radiationdo you think the ESLs making these images know that radiation fries electronics
It's funny how you can archive search all of these images and see it's the same tard posting them every single time in every thread with the same buzzwords and everything.
>>719885962Vacuum tubes are more resistant to radiation. The world of Fallout never invented the transistor.In real life, nanoscale vacuum-channel transistors are being studied for their potential to be used in places with lots of radiation, such as nuclear reactors.
>>719886226objection: relevance
>>719861165Don't post low resolution pics on my board
>>719886302Technology that is based on vacuum tubes would be able to resist being damaged by the radiation (although it could still break because vacuum tubes are fragile), so scavengers going into old buildings to look for the rare non-broken bits of technology to sell is somewhat plausible, but his images are still retarded.
>>719864626I mean yeah, the execution is shit, but there's nothing wrong with the concept.sacrifice yourself to save everyone and be a posthumous hero or let a more moral companion do it and survive as a coward.Dragon Age Origins was the same concept with a better execution, at least before they added the Morrigan copout.
>>719885962To be fair, The Glow is the most irradiated place in FO1 and it has a bunch of robots, a working ZAX supercomputer and a ton of loot, including a Plasma Rifle. The vacuum tube guy is right.
>>719886856Nobody would have minded if it was just the Lone Wanderer and Sarah Lyons, which was probably how it was originally written. The problem is that the game has companions present that could reasonably do it without harm.
>>719887334Except, you know, with Enclave defeated, why rush the activation? Surely there are better ways to do it. Like, drill a hole and use a really long stick? This way, no one has to die. The water hobo can wait one day more.
>>719887569There was some kind of problem that meant that it had to be activated immediately. I forgot what it was, but it was in the dialogue just before the final decision.
>>719883660THIS.
>>719864961Normies and journos don't play games
>>719887765>There was some kind of problem that meant that it had to be activated immediately.it was RADIATION that was going to EXPLODE if you don't do something
>>719888928i wonder how much they got paid for those 10s
>>719888926You are a redditor and a secondary.
>>719888926>BoS are a techno-fascist cult following a strict codeThat's literally what the BoS have always been. Little fucking dickweeds that sit in their bunkers or around buildings with advanced technology jerking off to their power armor while going out to shake people down for pre-war tech because oh no that wastelander who's carrying a couple fusion batteries might trigger another apocalypse if they don't confiscate them.There's still some like that to some degree even in FO3, namely the BoS Outcasts.
>>719890653they should've swamped namesand the outcasts should've been led by Sarah, while the "real" BoS was under Lyonswe could've a Fathers and Children thing going on
bethesda games are boringit's just the same 15 minute walking and fetch quest to be rewarded with some cliche millenial writing dialogue
>>719864961After years of patches NV's extra mechanics make FO3 obsolete
>>719888926I love how this is actually the correct use of Virgin vs. Chad template.You can tell that this image is ironic because the grammar isn't retarded.
>>719890653Dumb redditor. The games show what happens when dangerous military technology ends up in the wrong hands. Even House criticises them for ignoring less dangerous technology.
at this point I don't know what is a shitpost and what is genuine
Where ever this anon is he should stand proud knowing he singlehandedly fraud checked Fallout 3.
>>719891349I miss the fallout threads we used to have over a decade ago when people actually enjoyed the games.
Does Fallout 3 have being racist as a mechanic? Checkmate.
>>719891349To be fair, you never hand shit over to the Enclave, even if they claim their plan is to fix it. They're basically Bond movie tier evil glowniggers. If my toaster stopped working and some Enclave technician offered to fix it for me I'd just shoot him in the face and burn his body because more likely than not that faggot's under orders to turn that toaster into some kind of weapon of apocalyptic proportions designed to kill everyone outside the Enclave's exclusive little circle jerk.
>>719892043You can kill black slaver gangs.
>>719883614Is it really that hard to learn english for an italian? Aren't those both languages latin-adjacent?
>>719861165i want a fallout game with the best parts of all 3 games but bethesda and obsidian are both terrible nowandms ruins everything they touch
>>719891337It's just postironic irony poisoned shitposting
>>719862605F3 mc didn't die though, the ending was so bad and stupid that it got retconned in the DLC and his supermutant friend went into the super radioactive chamber instead of "letting his friend to his fate"
>>719886856no, everything about it is shit, completely irredeemable, and that's why is was retconned
>>719891337He is genuinely assblasted by that /v poll that was a decade ago.
>>719893931Fawkes is funnily still passive aggressive about it if you ask him post broken steel, you survive either way, but what a way to double down on your own retardation.
>>719866787did we play the same game? following a giant robot around is not the same as controlling it
>>719858995Not enough.
Its even funnier when you know that bethesda shit on orginal mutant lore
>>719890431For the journos it at least makes sense because you are getting actual financial and career benefits for lying in public, but I just don't understand why anons and normies have decided to take up the cause. Contrarian brainworms? Terminal fanboyism? Misplaced nostalgia?
>>719882895This is some actual "you have to have a high IQ to understand Rick and Morty" shit. Do you have ny idea how many COD bros I know that loved Fallout 3?/v/ IS reddit now. This post made it blatantly obvious. You're all just dumb, obnoxious faggots.
>>719891167why do they always ad some random father figure to this memes?
>>719895024>NV IS FOR TRANNIES!!1 TROON GAME!1>Autumn takes estrogen shot right in front of you>...
As Fallout 4 fan I hate being lumped into the same category as Fallout 3 schizoids and Fallout 76 trannies. You'd have to be a complete retard to deny that NV has the best world-building and dialogues in the series but sometimes I just want to shoot things and build settlements in the Fallout world.And before you start whining that Fallout 4 doesn't feel like Fallout let me remind you that New Vegas was built on top of Fallout 3 and doesn't look like a real Fallout either, same with Fallout Tactics which is even less of an RPG than Fallout 4
>>719895986>Securitron>Mass-produced by House's paranoid half-brotherWhy?
i wonder if people will ever stop responding to the fake indian ESL images by taking them completely seriouslyanyone who does so is actually fucking dumber than the sharteens who make them
>>719894353Autumn was planning on fixing the purifier sure, but only so he could use it to establish Enclave control over the DC area. If he had succeeded you'd undoubtedly have Enclave troops scouring the DC Wasteland searching for bottles of purified water to confiscate and/or destroy, troops shaking down random people to make sure they had licenses for any purified water they're coming and that it had come from an Enclave approved source, executing anyone carrying unauthorized purified water or setting up unauthorized water purifiers. Basically he'd try to make the Enclave the only source of clean water in the DC area so people either have to submit to the Enclave or die of thirst or radiation poisoning. It's basically one of the few valid points the FO3 jeet has.
>>719858995People love Fallout 3. It sold better than New Vegas and was critcally acclaimed. The only people who hate it are New Vegas babies who worship the originals (they never played them) and blindly hate anything that Bethesda makes. >>719861165New Vegas is completely devoid of any content in the open world.
>>719896303He was a paranoid schizophrenic and was scared of House. He is only mentioned in one location and it's easy to miss
>>719862605I hate ESLs so fucking much
>>719896765>jannies and mods wanking to 14354523 gacha instead of work>somehow shitalian schizo running around and spamming 3123443 Fallout threads/hour is my problem
There is this cool mod called Tale of Two Wastelands that lets you play both in the F:NV engine
>>719897336Yeah thanks for enlightening us on this obscure mod nobody has heard of
>>719897212>walking down dirty street>see pile of dogshit>know it's dogshit (or are too retarded to understand this) and intentionally step in it>"it's not my fault they can't keep this place clean"
>>719897336I tried it recently and Fallout 3 is just as insufferable as I remember it. I don't even mind combat but almost all enemies are super mutants that are just boring to fight.
>>719897430Exactly. We have special kind of slaves here for cleaning.
>>719875785I concur, Fallout new reddit is truly superior SAR
>>719897430>food analogy
>>719898075
>>719858995>The game literally tells you that the Nightkin suffer from schizophrenia>Retards delude themselves into thinking the 2 Nightkin are trannies and that the game approves itHoly shit, if you're that retarded just kill yourself you stupid fucking faggot.
>>719896765>indianHe's actually Italian.
>>719897039>they never played themCope. NV is carried by being a sequel to the first two games. You can still play them now, whether via purchase or piracy.
>>719899859There is no difference in fact.
>>719886856>sacrifice yourself to save everyone and be a posthumous hero or let a more moral companion do it and survive as a coward.except your companion is immune to the radiation. he just has to walk a few feet and press the button. then he walks the few feet back and he's with you again. it's not cowardly to ask him to do it at all.
>>719899859the people making the majority of these images are no longer the original guy
>>719883614You're replying to an image that's almost 3 years old dude. I should post these more often, they're a great way to farm (You)s.
>>719858995nobody would care about fallout if 3 hadn't put it on the map. We owe a lot to 3 and it deserves a remaster.
>>719895214It's supposed to be the dad in fallout 3.
>>719891349see >>719882553
>>719900794>the very first sentence of deboooonking is a straight up lie
>>719858995did a 5 year old make that pic?
I like FO3, sue me.
Should've had a better romance with Sarah.
fallout 1 is the only good game in the series2 was already retarded, most of the quests are boring and the only good part isn't even tied to the main quest (new reno)enclave started out fine with desert execution encounter but later every damn member you encounter is a fucking clownand hey i'm all for taking jabs at scientology but san fran was a fucking joke because of that shithonestly i don't even blame bethesda for carrying the tune and going all in for a wacky theme park
>>719858995People really sit here making these images and threads to fight with people about an opinion they don't even have.
>>719901778No, it's the people who don't have opinion make these images.
>>719902018Your intelligence is equal to that of a bot that whose only data comes from this thread.
>>719900626Fallout was relatively successful, especially for such a niche product.
>>719902153You forgot to attach your Chad.jpg sharty fag.
I'm playing FO4 for the first time right now with no mods and I'm having a good time. About 14 hours of fucking around, im level 19 and I havent even made it to Diamond City yet. Might go do the Minutemen castle quest finally since I've saved a bunch of settlements and done other quest at Bunker Hill and whatnot.Are there any mods that DONT change the gameplay in crazy ways but add neat things to the game? I don't really want a bigass overhaul mod but maybe some quality of life or cosmetics.
>>719858995F3 was judged fairly, it's NV who was extremely overrated. Both are garbage.
>>719902271You are genuinely so fucking stupid. You were agreeing with what I said with your first reply.
>>719902642There's a lot depending on what you want. Too many to list to be honest.You should probably start by downgrading the game and installing script extender
>>719878010Funny, that its bethesda game (fo4) where you can troon out and wear a dress as a dude. Can't do that in NV.
>>719858995>ESL so thick you can smell the favela
>>719904582you bet
>>719904582the horrible grammar is the best partit shows that these pics were created as a shitpost yet people still get mad at it anyway
>>719862605>FO3 plot explainedhow fucking retarded does one have to be to need this to understand the plot?
>>719885962The wop who made those images is just that much of a fucking retard. IIRC he got into an argument a couple years back with some other anon over how rain works because he couldn't figure out what clouds were made of.
>>719886856Almost any concept can be done well. Ultimately the execution is what matters, and Bethesda fucked it up so hard that they had to introduce a Mass Effect 3-level rewrite. And unlike Bioware they even had the audacity to make people pay for it.
>>719882553>>719891349WAIT A FUCKING MINUTECalling back to the events of Far Harbor, if the Wanderer survived being bathed with rads to oblivion + the GECK to the face to a point you would melt, doesnt mean that the wanderer is now the one leading the church because the geck remade him? he is the one leading the children of atom all over the country now, he is Glow Messiah
>>719870706>implyingAmmo crafting getting the chop for that anemic shit in F4 was downright pathetic. Not even the mods could fix it because the game was never designed with that idea in mind.