>>719867337
Take it to /vr/ grandpa

DLC was a let down

>>719867759
Luckily I played it all as one big package so it didn't bother me, but I guess 6 new bosses isn't that many. Didn't it take like 8 years to come out?

still annoyed I gifted a dude this for Christmas he hasn't played it even once for even 1 minute in 2 years. fucking never gifting again

>>719868019
This is me every time I gift anyone a game or book. People never like using gifts if there is any kind of time investment.

>most favorite
Werner Werman
Devil
>least favorite
I didn't find any of them frustrating but I guess Beppi cause it was the first time there was a lot of shit happening on screen
Cala Maria cause of the petrification

>>719868242
it was literally in his wishlist and then he never touched it. stupid af
id of played it instead i dont have it

>>719867337
Vanilla game

Best boss - probably the frogs. Idk, I just enjoy fighting them.

Worst boss - Bee

DLC

Best boss - Giant easily. Every phase is fun

Worst boss - the plane dog. I still like it, but compared to the rest of the fights in DLC it was somewhat weak.

>>719867337
In terms of kino I'd say Mantis Lords, Nightmare King Grimm, Nosk, Traitor Lord, and the Hornet rematch. I'd include the Hollow Knight himself as well as the Radiance but that feels like a cop-out since that's the final boss, and it would ruin my list being a nice and neat top 5.
Wait a minute...

>>719867337
least favorite the cymbal monkey and the train skull
favorite the candies and the angry flower

>>719868242
Damn, when I get something gifted I feel forced to play it lel
>>719868435
That's fucking retarded. Maybe he's one of those people who puts everything on the wishlist that he heard talked about
>>719868503
I don't find the bee horrible but it's kinda boring I guess. Frogs are an amazing early game enemy, cause you can just shoot the side of the screen and do consistent damage but also have to dodge a lot of moving shit
>plane dog
Maybe a bit easy overall, but the screen rotation gimmick is FUCKED

>>719868625
Bee was also quite painful to S rank. And overall I do not like the design of the level too much. The dragon did a better job at a moving platform level.

>>719868684
Oh I only beat everything on normal. I'll probably go for S ranks if I ever replay the game

>>719868435
>wishlist
that's a tier below backlog, he didn't give two shits about it and had it there as an afterthought

>>719867337
Funny, I also finished cuphead last week and really enjoyed it, no idea why it took me so long to finally play this, it's awesome.
>Most
Medusa and Pirate, but I really liked all of the bosses

>least
The devil and the final boss of the DLC, these two are the only exceptions.
I feel these two have no real flow to their fights, it's just
>better dodge all this bullshit on screen, while I'm just chilling in the background

also they have way too much health, their fights take forever.

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I never played Cuphead but I like the games that inspired it, ie. Gunstar Heroes, Contra Hard Corps, Alien Soldier, etc.

How does it match up?

>>719869173
I think the Devil and Saltbaker are fundamentally different. Every attack the Devil does is a "gotcha" where you just get hit if you haven't seen the attack before. Saltbaker simply has a lot of shit on screen you all gotta dodge. I had fun with both of them
Also I like Saltbaker's second phase gimmick

>>719868770
S ranking is a masochistic experience, but when you get good at the game you start liking it. At least some of the bosses. Others like the bird are just a fucking nightmare to S.

>>719869289
It has some jump 'n' gun levels but the vast majority of the content is boss fights

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>>719867337
Aside from Cala Maria getting extra points for being pure sex. I think most interesting were the flower on the 1st island and the pirate ship on the 3rd. Worst one? That first blue ball is boring.

>>719867337
Boss from Blockbuster and my boss taking photos of tourists on the tourist train.

>>719867759
nah, what we got was great, it's just that DLC came out after a long time so people were expecting much more content
the only real flaw of the DLC is the lack of at least one platforming stage

>>719868019
A friend of mine actually gifted me Cuphead, I finished it and it's one if my favorite games ever, but the guy himself haven't played it and actually I was unable to convince any of my friends to finish a game. What also annoying is I feel unable to gift anything of similar value back as no matter what game I think of I doubt he'll get as much fun with it as me with Cuphead.

>>719869413
Cala Maria fight is great in itself. Probably my fav plane boss in the game

>>719869618
It's too RNG to be the best plane boss, Kahl's Robot is better

>>719869642
Fuck that robot. He is the sole reason I'm afraid to replay this game again. I feel like I've only beaten him once thanks to luck.

>>719869518
I definitely wouldn't have minded another platforming stage, but looking back at the game, I think boss stages are more important. And King's Leap is awesome so if it comes down to a choice, I'm happy we got that gimmick instead

>>719869409
Well the majority of content in those games is boss fights too. I'm sure Cuphead fits right in with those games, but I've never heard any direct comparisons.

>>719869928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qzp-L9Sato
Look at this and you should be able to form an opinion whether it's for you

>>719869303
I dunno, the little devils spawning non-stop in his first phase and the the constant barrage of stuff from all the sides during his second phase also felt pretty "spammy" to me.
Maybe it's because all the other bosses have great animations when they attack and transform, so I didn't mind trying over and over to beat them.
But with the Devil and Salt Baker my eyes are just glued to random shit flying through the screen for 5 minutes straight and I just got sick of it after a while lol.

>>719867337
I can't play any more of this shit because the gun shots and sound effects have bad sensory feedback and are deeply unsatisfying.
quite an indictment that I will play metal slug for fucking hours having a blast but this shit gets so boring and feels like nothing.

>>719870269
Is the Metal Slug release on Steam good? IIRC lots of people complained about the port

>>719870231
Well, for Saltbaker it's like
>little fire dude coming down and going back up
>limes coming from the left and right both low and high
>ice cubes bouncing up and down
All happening at the same time
Whereas the Devil for most of the fight is like
>one little demon dude (very telegraphed by sound btw) comes from one side of the screen
>Devil turns into a goat and slaps his arms from both sides of the screen
And there is never anything more than that to keep track of
Only bullshit is the fire magic attack because it persists long enough that it overlaps into his next attack, and it forced me to take a hit once when I had to jump down the hole to the next phase

>>719870487
>Devil turns into a dragon requiring precise timing
while the little devils can fuck you over
>Dodge all these balls
Second phase
>dodge the axes
>kill the little guys from the top before they transform
>quickly parry the bombs if they're too close
>also kill the fat guys on bothe sites
>btw there's also stuff falling from the top
>also also jump around between the small platforms
Yeah ...

>>719867337
>cartoon slop

>>719870365
No play on MAME

>>719870812
>Devil turns into a dragon requiring precise timing
Just run to the opposite end of the screen, at the very border

>>719870812
6 balls bouncing along the edges of the screen are still less to keep track of than in the Saltbaker fight, sorry
Second phase has exactly one thing dropping from the top periodically and one rotating axe that can barely even hit you cause it rotates so far, or one bomb you have to parry at a time
Third phase dies in like 10 seconds after one super so I wouldn't know, I just shot at the top of the screen and all the little dudes died

>>719867337
>What are your least and most favorite bosses?
For the normal game
>Favorite
Ghost train
>Least favorite
Tied between the bee queen and the pirate as I always find both fights pretty boring

For DLC
>Favorite
Plane boss, simply and satisfying fight and I like how fast you can end it
>Least favorite
Baker
S ranking him took like 2hrs unironically, I had a skill issue
>>719869289
While I've played contra, alien soldier, and gunstar, I've always had a soft spot for gunstar the most so that one's my favorite.

Cuphead's inspiration from these games is obvious to see but it takes the most inspiration from Gunstar out of all of those you listed, from some of the weapon types, to boss ideas (dice boss is outright copypasted from Gunstar).

Cuphead isn't on the same level as those games with the run n gun ones. The run n gun levels are very simple and short, and are not nearly as action packed or chaotic as any of the classic titles it's based of.

Cuphead's bosses are pretty good but they follow Gunstar's style of boss design more than Contra or Alien Soldier.
Oddly, Cuphead doesn't have a Seven Force style boss though

Cuphead also doesn't have the weapon combining that Gunstar has but you can equip two weps at the same time and switch them.

Overall, I think if you prefer the classic run and gun levels from the classic games (since those were the main content really) then Cuphead will disappoint you as it's really more about the bosses.
None of Cuphead's run n gun levels are anywhere near as fun or as difficult as Gunstar's
Also if you dislike Gunstar's design ideas the most then you won't like the Cuphead bosses either

I beat the angel & devil secret boss just by abusing chalice's i-frame roll and thought everything popped in randomly lel, I never figured out the projectiles work based on look direction

>>719867337
Worst Boss: Wally Warbles
Best Boss: dunno

>>719869173
>>719869303
I don't like the Devil fight at all, it's way too easy and simplistic for a final boss
Is only "hard" phase is the first one and after you get past that phase the rest of the fight is free because of how big his hitboxes are and how much space you have to move around.
All of the phase 2 + 3 attacks are really easy to dodge.

For a final boss, they should have made his attacks more difficult to deal with and phase 2 and 3 shouldn't have been so laughably easy even though though him being a little bitch at the end is funny

Saltbaker is a much better designed final boss.
He still does the "gets easier as the fight goes on" thing but it's executed much better as it's still easy to get hit on phase 2 and phase 3 if you're not paying attention and the victory lap final phase is more satisfying to get the win compared to the devil.

I think there's a reason that when people talk about hard bosses in the base game they usually say the clown, the dragon, the bird, or the robot but its never the devil because hes way too easy

>>719871506
>victory lap final phase
I died like 5 fucking times on that phase

>>719867337
>least
The fucking robot
Nothing comes close

>>719871691
what happened anon

>>719872048
Just falling down the platforms, or parrying the heart and falling on top of it, it still has an active hitbox after the parry

>>719872136
>or parrying the heart and falling on top of it,
That one's a real troll hit

I used crackshot the entire game and I regret nothing
Imagine aiming lmao

By chance the came 'pon the devil's face
My gosh they paid for rice
PAID FOR RIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE
and now they're fighting for their lives

>>719867337
This isn't Silksong.

>>719872580
>song not in the game anymore with DLC
sad!

>>719872678
but there's been an option in the menu to change it back for a while

>>719872678
It is, you can switch the kind of title screen you get in the options menu from vanilla or dlc

One of the best video game soundtracks of all time, very rare for something so new

>>719869289
I'd say it's most similar to Gunstar Heroes

>>719869289
It's alright. Characters control like Contra 3 + dash, though most of the game is bosses. You'll get a kick out of it, if you're not sure then at least give it a pirate.

>>719872845
>most nothing boss has the best soundtrack
>it's 4x as long as it will take anybody to beat him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saZ0ZKE8sdo

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>He used smoke bomb
You didn't beat the game

>>719873537
I didn't use it because I found it disorienting to not see your dude during the dash

Is there any boss where the "stand still" button ever becomes relevant? I haven't used that once in my playthrough

>>719873537
The smoke bomb was really strong, gave you the ability to skip mechanics in most bossfights
my issue with it was visibility
if there's smokey / white effects already on the screen, I'd lose sight of the character every now and then, resulting in damage where I wouldn't have taken it had I clear vision

>>719873893
Pirate

>>719874110
Fair. I just used jumping charge

>>719867759
The plane fight was really fun though.

>>719867337
>least
Bee
>favorite
Cala Maria or devil

>>719873893
its really only useful to squeeze in some extra damage in a safe way, its usefulness also depends on what weps you use

I use it on a number of fights but two cases that stick out are
the anteater phase for the mob boss
it can be useful on the 2nd phase for the baker if you use charge shot since you can be done with that phase quicker by shooting all 4 minions

>>719874258
Does it work like that on the baker? I always alternated between the bottom left and right shakers (using lobbed shot) and when I tried charged shot once, it needed like 3 charges, so I gave up on that. Even with lobbed shot alternating between the two shakers, there was barely any downtime

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>>719874396
yea I used to alternate between the bottom two aswell but if you use charge shot you can tap fire 1 uncharged shot + 1 full charge shot on a shaker and that kills it
or you can do 1 charge shot + weapon swap to something like lobber

if you time it right you can just loop through all 4 shakers and be done with that phase really fast like in webm rel

>>719875594
huh guess I must have missed one of the shots or something when I tried it out

>>719875594
this fight reads so poorly, when the pepper shakers start flying as you damage them, it looks like they'd become projectiles that hit the player and their flying animation is like 1 frame so you'd get immediately punted, but they just seem to damage the boss and the only things you have to dodge are the dancing flames, leaves and the yellow projectiles

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>>719875689
I tried doing a run just now to try it again and it is still doable even with me being out of practice

it can be easy to mess up the loop though, if you start missing shots or let the shakers shoot you a lot then you're probably gonna get hit
>using invincibility super
my cope is i'm rusty and baker-sama is scary

>>719877351
>not playing as chalice in the chalice DLC

>>719877419
I don't like how chalice plays, I wish she was just a skin instead and her abilities were just the cookie instead of the cookie also being the character
im a cup and mugenjoyer

>>719877543
dash parry is kino

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>>719877594
but whetstone...

>>719877704
Isn't it the damage equivalent of 0.5 seconds of peashooter fire? lmao

>>719877806
i have no idea what its damage is but the damage is noticeable on plane bosses since you can spam it after a bomb or when you get close and i like being able to parry bosses whenever

>>719867759
not really

>>719878116
does it give you a brief bit of invincibility when you parry like the pink parries do? so you can't take damage while doing it?

>>719878204
i think so let me check real quick though since i got the game open

Is this game or Silksong harder?

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>>719878204
okay yea it does, I parry the mouse here and dont get hit, but I think it gives you less iframes after the hit compared to the normal pink parry
whetstone always got my back
I never remove it

>>719867337
Got 100% achievements in under 200 deaths. Fun af game. Yes, I used Chalice + the shield ult. Inb4 >wah wah you didn't beat the game

>>719867337
This game is fucking awful, there’s barely 0 gameplay and you don't fight the bosses you just dodge their attacks while on a timer, it doesn’t even feel like your damaging them, more like you’re just waiting for a timer to end, just surviving, garbage game, also all the attacks, designs and flow of the boss fights and the platforming stages are nothing new you’ve seen every single attack in mega man games or run n gun games from the snes, ps1, ps2 era, complete shit that’s only memorable because of its art style, garbage

>>719878780
I was already considering it because of the plane thing you said, but
>jump + parry over him without having to use the springboard
I kneel. Will try it as my main charm next time I replay

>>719879064
>you don't fight the bosses you just dodge their attacks while on a timer
Bullet-hell bros...you have been exposed

>>719867337
Pizza Tower and this shit has the worst fans imaginable.

>>719879064
>you don't fight the bosses you just dodge their attacks while on a timer
Chaser or Crackshot user detected
based

>>719879363
Crackshot is literally the best gun in the game though. The DLC kinda ruined the balance with Chalice and Crackshot just being too good to not use.

>>719879064
Yep, you're definitely the same guy who cries about Elden Ring having actual gameplay instead of press X to awesome.

>>719868503
Yeah the bee isn't great but the robot can go fuck itself, just not fun. The frogs are fun for sure but I just can't say anything but king dice as my favourite.

>>719879562
It does less damage than Peashooter at range (when it turns into the heatseeker), albeit more than Chaser. Also Chaser tracks better if you have multiple fast moving targets
But yeah if you're not worried about optimizing time there is no reason not to use Crackshot

>>719879685
Why do people hate the damn robot so much? Is it the bullet hell last phase or the first phase where disabling a component replaces it with an even harder to dodge weapon?

>>719879686
>Chaser tracks better
Yeah, I use it for Saltbaker, but Crackshot is more optimal everywhere else.

>>719879685
>>719879794
The robot is pretty easy outside of the bullet hell phase on expert which is pure reflexes. The first few phases are very consistent once you know the "correct" order of destroying the parts (tl;dr burst down the antenna first, then stay in the bottom row, use a super when the head flies at you to mostly skip that phase).

>>719879868
I don't even know of any way to beat the dragon's second phase without auto-aim bullets. I guess you'd have to stay on the bottom clouds?

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>>719869413
They should do another dlc where ypu fight her on foot. And her final phase shpuld be a harder version of Glumstones 3rd phase haha

>>719880234
Ive never had an issue his hitbox is most of the screen

>>719879562
Do people struggle to aim so hard that the shit damage is really worth it?

>>719880943
It's not about struggling to aim, it's about completely clearing your mind of even thinking about where to shoot, so you're 100% focussed on dodging
A random example that just came to mind: The little gnome niggers at the bottom of the screen on Glumstone phase 1. With a normal weapon, you have to at least consider when to shoot down at them or decide to ignore them and have to dodge their projectiles. With auto-aim cheat bullets, they just die without you even noticing them spawning

>>719879064
Yeah I don't feel like I'm fighting them either.
just holding the shoot button to make a timer go down is an apt comparison. Apparently there is no scripting fuckery and the damage shots do is organic, but it always feels like i reach the phases after a set amount of time.
there's no melee, no back and forth, no stagger/knockback or other forms of effecting the bosses state.. and your pee shooter has no punch so the only time the game feels remotely engaging to me is when I do the parry slap.

>>719880234
>dragon's second phase
Lobber shreds him in seconds, literally the easiest S rank in the game lol, try it

>>719881678
That's the third phase

>>719880943
It does more damage than peashooter and you don't have to aim (well you need to shoot up occasionally so that it cracks better, but that's not a big deal).

>>719881795
No that works for both the second and third phases. Personally, I prefer converge for the first phase, but it's easy with any gun.

>>719881074
>>719881906
Use charge/converge and spread like a real man

Give it to me straight: How hard is expert? I did normal getting B to A ranks and had lots of fun but I'm afraid expert is gonna be a tedious hellgrind

>>719882367
>How hard is expert?
It's very uneven, like the frogs become one of the hardest fights in the game because they now attack together and the slot machine phase is faster than Sonic the Hedgehog and you need to watch a YT video to figure out how to dodge the coin toss at all.

But then the dragon is literally the same fight, except the clouds move in reverse, so it's actually easier. S rank first try.
The flower spams the pink seed non-stop but apart from that it's the same fight, another easy S rank.
King Dice and the Devil are basically the same fights and much easier than everyone else on Expert
Djimmi is a garbage fight, phase 1 is a complete coin toss whether you manage to dodge the BS or not, rest is easy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LmYKoKtIfw
Wally on Expert is the hardest fight in the game just to beat, but mostly fair once you grind it down
Expert Saltbaker is a garbage fight, too much RNG in phase 1, even god gamers on YouTube can't clear phase 1 consistently without taking damage

Basically, you can tell they rushed this out and not much time was spent finetuning the expert movesets. It's all over the place and often feels unfun, but it's not too bad, you only need to S rank one boss for 100% achievements.

DLC was short but the quality is next to none. Fucking Saltbaker animation was golden era Disney quality.

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>>719879085
based have fun anon
i did the mermaid fight just now to show how you can use whetstone on the plane bosses
you can completely btfo her on the final phase and get some nice extra damage on the first phase too
very easy to get hit though, there's a sweet spot where you can be close to her face and not get hit but its a very fine line

>>719883150
You should really use Divine Relic for the plane bosses. It comes with the axe and ALL the other passives. And the downside of your weapon being random when you start shooting doesn't matter because you've only got 2 in plane levels. You basically just tap the fire button to switch between bullets and bombs, it's a non-issue.

>>719883434
You didn't beat the game

>>719883434
i dont really find using divine relic much fun
i do wish the game would let you keep the cursed relic though since that was kinda fun as a challenge mode

>>719883586
lmao what, you need to no hit like 8 bosses to unlock the relic, I did the grind, I deserve to style on the bosses

>>719867337
For base game, fav is probably the Ghost Train

For DLC, favorite is between the Mountain Giant and the Plane boss.

>>719883024
Sounds like dogshit

>>719884552
Yeah, don't bother if you beat the base game by the skin of my teeth, it will be too frustrating for you.

But if you're like me and good at sidescrollers and bullet hell, then it's a fun challenge that's sometimes complete BS but you can still win.

I don't recommend grinding ALL of the S ranks though, that will take a while and you get literally nothing, no extra items or cheevos.

>>719884783
>by the skin of my teeth
*your
fuck my dyslexia

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>>719883120
Saltbaker makes the devil fihgt look like a prealpha. Wild stuff. The music is terrific too.

>>719882367
Nothing is particularly hard and if you're stuck on a boss there are guides on youtube on how to best avoid the attacks. And miss chalice is so overpowered you can bruteforce your way through. Some of the plane levels were the most difficult for me, but still doable.

>>719885881
>lipstick is removed
>becomes 10x more sexo
funny how that works

>>719886556
uuuoooohhh

>>719879349
Why would you hate on those fans, specifically, as opposed to other, much more famously, loud and prolific fandoms?

>>719886456
>another 15 hours (and probably more than that because I'm bad)
Eh. It's the kinda game where I might come back to just replay some bosses cause it's fun, might as well give expert a shot then and at least A-rank all the bosses on normal

>>719886735
I beat the game once back when I pirated it before I went for this run after buying the game with the dlc for full price because they deserve it.
And back then I didn't bother with completion either. But this time I had so much fun playing I couldn't stop myself.

>>719871086
>if you prefer the classic run and gun levels from the classic games (since those were the main content really)
Arguably true for Gunstar but not the other two. In Hard Corps and Alien Soldier, the bosses were the main part.

>>719867337
>very cool aesthetic for a mario like platformer
>its nothing but boss fights

what a retarded decision

>>719887123
>>its nothing but boss fights
Based

>>719867337
Best - King Dice

Worst - The first blue boss

>>719886556
hebe>hag

>>719887243
>Worst - The first blue boss
Oh yeah, forgot about that one. That's my least fav too.

>>719867337
It's really something how they were able to so consistently give bosses just a little more health than I could handle

>>719867337
>Favorite
Sugarland shimmy. Rng aside, I just really like the OST and watching how pissed Bon bon gets as the fight progresses. The whole bout feels chaotic, like a sugar rush.
>Least favorite
Goopy le Grande. It's just too simple, even for a area 1 boss. At least he's easy, so you can get passed him quick. The 3rd phase was a funny gag though.

>>719887607
Most bosses take 1-2 minutes to beat

>>719887676
>The 3rd phase was a funny gag though
Done better in the DLC

>>719867337
it was ok, kind of mid desu

I just got an A rank (that's right, A) on all bosses. Ask me anything

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>>719893203
What A rank did you have the most fun getting
What was your goto loadout

>>719894162
Probably the sea pirate, that was a fun fight
Ms. Chalice for the double jump

>>719893203
Did you know you can i-frame through the mermaid's gaze with smoke bomb? It's a pretty tight window though.

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>>719867337
>least
Dragon
>most
Phantom Express

>>719894398
I googled if the petrify beam can be dodged at all and someone on reddit said you can avoid it by standing still but that doesn't seem to work. At least for phase 2 you can just kinda keep above her and avoid it

>>719887123
it was a good decision because boss fights are actual gameplay. most platformers are just derpy games where you press right and jump sometimes

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>>719894392
Not many people choose the Pirate as their favorite so that's rare. You should give Expert a try anon.
Based for being Chalicepilled

>>719867759
wut
I enjoyed it more than the base game.

>>719898902
Yeah but now imagine if you had waited 5 years for it instead of just playing it all at once

I really love the game, the art direction and appreciate the work of passion beyond this one of a kind game.
Still, I have more fun with Metal Slug and Pocky and Rocky.

>>719898902
>>719898998
I bought the base game and DLC long after both had released.
Played through base game, beat devil, then decided to play some DLC bosses and I just don't like them. I don't like how Chalice plays at all.

>>719899339
Chalice plays the exact same except you get to double jump. No one's forcing you to make weird parries or dodge roll