THE GREAT PLAN APPROACHES, WARMBLOODSALL WILL BE RESTOREDTHOSE THAT ARE NOT PART OF IT WILL BE ANNIHILATED
we love nagash here
>>719904352OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>719903742When is and what is on the lizzer rework again
NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T BUILD AN UNDERCITY HERE
>>719904352
>>719905869stop skeleton on skeleton hatred!no more boner wars!
>>719903742BOKBOK
>>719906002MORE BONER WARSKILL THE VAMPIRE
>>719903742>gets squished by rat meteoroh no no no no no no
>>719904691Didn’t they literally just get an update
kroxigor gf
>>719906227It was another nothingburger that changed nothing so they teased a real rework alongside the tomb KANGZ iirc
>>719903742The Great Plan will partially come once the Lizardmen will get a DLC with a completely overhauled Geomantic Web mechanic.For now, the quality of life improvements they just got need to suffice for the time being.>>719904352You are just lucky Settra didn't cut you up into tiny pieces and threw it all over the desert.
Did the ogres get a rework since release, how different are they nowadays?
>>719904352who is the bigger edgelord?
I bought WH1, WH3, all Empire dlcs and Chaos Warriors. Got overhwelmed when trying to play Empire and never went past turn 5.
>>719906813Nagash is just a stupid fangirl
>>719906554that already happened, the latest patch has minor reworks for both tomb kings and lizzies.
How do you deal with sieges? Bring multiple stacks and autoresolve?IA loves to park in a single province sometimes.
>>719906771I've never played them, but apparently they did get a rework and some point yes
>>719906862Empire is a pretty complex faction these days. Do dwarfs or cathay if you want straight forward order campaigns.
>>719907694They play fine without DLC? I read High Elves are easy mode but I didn't get WH2.
>>719907515Abuse ambush stance if the AI is turtling.
>>719906227Liggers have had half a dozen reworks, it doesn't matter, they'll always complain no matter how much content they get
every post above and below me is meatget in me belly yum yum
>>719907857>they'll always complain no matter how much content they getLiterally the only thing we've been asking since release is the rework of the web feature in the campaign because it doesn't do anything and is boring as fuck
>>719907801Every faction except maybe lizardmen and skaven are perfectly fine without DLC.
>>719907941Not true. Just off the top of my head I can tell you that all four monogod factions are crippled without Champions of Chaos. Greenskins require either King and the Warlord (Nasty Skulkerz) or Warden and the Paunch (Pump-wagons) to have pretty much any armour piercing at all. I don't know what's in the upcoming DLC, but High Elves are currently extremely reliant on Sisters of Avelorn.
>>719904691>>719907857>>719906732What would an actually good rework for lizardmen be? I think they shouldn't have their units be recruited like normal factions, instead their recruitment should be based upon their units spawning out of the spawning pools. Their units shouldn't cost anything to recruit (there should still be upkeep costs) but should spawn in waves sort of like Throt's monsters, there's a spawning every 5-10 turns or so and you cue up a bunch of units to spawn in the waves. The spawning pools you control should also affect your spawning waves, maybe giving you extra units or giving you blessed spawnings or some other bonus.Make it so that by mid/late-game whole armies can just appear out of the spawning pools all at once.
>>719908394The geo webs work differently in the tabletop and wouldn't have any issues working in this game
>>719908308>High Elves are currently extremely reliant on Sisters of AvelornWhat? No they aren't. Sisters are a strong doomstack but the race isn't "reliant" on themHell some factions like Imrik or Batman ignore them completelyImrik is actually a good example, he's FLC and his whole army plan is spamming dragons and dragon princes
>Play Settra>Give lizards all the jungles they want, take them on adventures to genocide rats>Now I have perfect units to fill the gaps in my rosterLiznerds u ok, just no touch pyramid!
>>719903742https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXbmKc-thY0If this is how the 2nd to 4th generations of Slann are, then I wonder how is the very 1st generation (and the 5th).
>Game starts turning into pressing autoresolve I kind of hate how boring it gets when you start making progress.
>>719909069I can't even play Dwarfs anymore because they're autoresolve is so stupidly overpowered
>>719909319
>>719907912They fixed Nakai the Wanderer yet?He needs Golgfag tier mechanics where he can warp to any Lizardmen battle that has poor autoresolve ratings for the lizardmen to save them from a certain defeat8Arrive as reinforcements and be forced to watch an AI vs AI battle until you arriveAlso fix the abhorrently shitty Defenders of the Plan just being a lobotomised and retarded faction that does nothing
>>719903742Is Empire in TW3 still a total crapshoot in how randomly the game can go?
>>719909015Each older gen of Slann is exponentially more powerful than the younger ones. Each generation of Slann had a purpose that they collectively worked towards. 2nd gen Slann were created to move planets, 3rd gen Slann were created to move continents, 4th gen Slann were created to build the ocean We don't have explicit confirmation what 1st gen Slann were made for, but it's almost certainly to move stars. The only 1st gen Slann we know about is Kroak, who is so powerful he can throw miniature suns at people even though he's dead
>>719903742havent played for a long timehow does the changeling work? can you spawn another faction's army? mix and match? always disappointed me in wh3 modding that you cant recruit other units into your army without allying (an involved process even with mods)
>>719909596Its honestly kind of funny, literally every match is different for how the Empire goes, I usually watch it happen as Drycha.One match they'll be stomped by Vlad, another they get invaded by Chaos from the north, then another they have ogres taking territory from the south, and then the rare game where they actually end up a world power.
>>719908941Last defenders are down to ONE settlement on my settra run currently. I am trying my best to make it to them and save their ass, but we will see.
>>719909956I've seen Elspeth and Franz go to war a ton lately in my vanilla games, lol
>>719909538Bruh all of that has been addressed. Slowpoke
>>719908394Two for me.1. A Geomantic Manifestation mechanic where Lizzie province capitals generate geomantic energies (also the Geomantic Nexus is rolled into the province capital).If you manage to generate enough, you can do stuff like reinforcing an army with dinosaurs (completely different from one of the rituals they have since it works like Tzeentch's spawn trolling), literally razing a settlement, turning the climate of a whole province into a new type that only lizzies can live in (and which can be reversed if you take over the province capital), dropping a tropical disease that even affects negatively Nurgle and Pestilens armies, suddenly grants enough exp to level by 5 levels, teleport to any settlement as long as it is either visible or was revealed and much more.2. A new Blessed Spawning mechanic where you do specific tasks to gain units marked by the Old Ones (and those are not limited to only combat). All the Blessed Spawning units are reworked and completely expanded. Now each existing Lizardman unit has multiple Blessed Spawning variants that have unique marks from each of the Old Ones which also change them visually.Purple Lizardmen have the Blessing of Tepok and they all get magic resistance and a barrier.Lizardmen with the Blessing of Quetzl have bony spurs coming from their forearms and overall superior defensive stats.Lizzies with the Blessing of Chotec are orange and they deal double damage to fleeing enemies (as well as moving faster and having strong vigor).Stuff like that. This would open a ton of new tactical options for players.
>>719908941>>719910084I think it might be over...
>>719912013>Kill ratniggers and green gits>Occupy settlement>Allow public order to worsen until it rebels>The rebels will be Kroq-Gar's revived faction>Allow them to take the settlement, they will now be a real faction again>Unfortunately they will also be at war with you, so give them another settlement with a barracks building in it (the AI grotesquely overvalues these and will probably become your vassal for it if you want them to)It's a lot of work but if you have that particular brand of autism you can bring him back.
This thread has my consent.
>>719913113I ended up making it in time, gifted them the 3 settlements above it and am now helping them defend. It's going to be a slog, but my autism bros will be safe.
>>719903742Luv SylvaniaLuv me WifeLuv BloodSimple as
>>719913821summon the elector counts
>>719908941Lizards were absolutely my best friends in Warhammer 2 Thorek Ironbrow campaign. Killed so many Rats.
>>719907515Multiple weak armies is strategically much more useful than an isolated Doomstack. I typically try to keep my Lrgendary Lord's unit quality analogous to my opponents instead of trying to race to a Doomstack and then have him accompanied by an army or two of crap.
>>719908941>play settra>get a little too zealous on expansion and now am fighting Kairos and Skarbrand at the same along with WurrzagKairos and Wurrzag are fine but I sent Wahkaf up to deal with Skarbrand and it’s not going really well.
>>719911101Explain
>>719906443Kroxigor wives for dark elf guys
>>719906443Skink GF
>>719906443>>719915785But they don't have genitals
Kill skaven. Behead skaven. Roundhouse kick a skaven into the concrete. Slam dunk a raki baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Kolraki. Defecate in a rats food. Launch rats into the sun. Stir fry rats in a wok. Toss rats into active volcanoes. Urinate into a Raki-Zharrs gas tank. Judo throw rats into a wood chipper. Twist rats heads off. Report ratmen to the witchhunters. Karate chop rats in half. Curb stomp pregnant skaven. Trap rats in quicksand. Crush rats in the trash compactor. Liquefy vermin in a vat of acid. Eat rats. Dissect rats. Exterminate rats in the gas chamber. Stomp rat skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate rats in the oven. Lobotomize rats. Mandatory abortions for skaven. Grind rats fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown rats in fried chicken grease. Vaporize rats with a flame cannon. Kick old Thaggoraki down the stairs. Feed rats to kroxigor. Slice rats with a katana.
>>719906771>>719907545Damn nobody actually plays the ogres huhShame
>>719916146Life, uhhhh, finds a way
>>719916379Just not a very appealing faction when you have armies of monsters and war machines available everywhere else while Ogres are just "Smash fat guys into other army"
Get ready for Total 40k
>>719916529lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>719906813There is no one in all of WHFB that can contest Archaon's crown of edge
>>719904352lord kroak will rape that mother fucker and love every second of it
>>719916529They better have super weapons and what not incorporated into the campaign instead of just basic armies or it's going to be a little lame.
>>719916529>>71991686140k will never work in a tw settingor we'd have WW1 and WW2 tw games already
>>719916529Total war Infinity and BattleTech right after!
Are the lizards in Warhammer good or bad? Do they just kill on non-lizards on sight? Never got a straight answer.
>>719916981>BattleTech right after!
>>719916928People were saying the exact same thing about Fantasy.
>>719917105?????? no they werentthe fantasy rules are perfect for a tw gameand they have proved everyone right, tww as a whole franchise outsold every other historyfag game combined40k is skirmish based, you never have thousands of units on your board unless you're the astra militarum vs the tyranidfag of the day
>>719917029>Covers all eras and the entirety of the sphere/periphery along with the factions from as big as ComStar to as small as The Society>Has all the units from the wargame>Legendary lords like based big dog VSD, the Bounty Hunter and the killer of men himself Kai Allard-LiaoYep, I'm thinking LUDO
>>719917264They absolutely were, even if it was just hisfag cope at that point. People thought monsters, flyers, magic etc would fuck up the game. For 40k Just lower the unit scale.
>>719917018Lizards are order aligned (good). However they are very autistic, and follow 'the great plan'. Nobody really knows what the great plan is anymore, since the progenitor race who made it are dead. Meaning the lizards kind of just guess.So their theory is keeping everybody in 'their place'. Which means even if you are another order faction, like the empire, and in their jungle, you need to GTFO or they will make you. Otherwise if you are empire and in your place, they will help you out. They consider chaos and similar factions to be unnatural, and should not have a place in the world.
>>719903742>Playing Wurrzag campaign>Destroying all the factions around me>At war with Mannfred>With 2 settlements left he asks for peace>Say "Fuck it I need the 6000 gold.">50 turns pass>In a stalemate with Oxyotol. Keeps pumping out 2 armies for every 1 I destroy.>Me and Arkhan are tolerating each other with a non aggression pact.>Arkhan is strongest faction with 30 settlements >Mannfred decides to declare war on me while being in a defensive alliance with Arkhan>Obliterate Mannfred but now Arkhan is pissed.>Get sandwiched between 2 powerful factions with over 20 settlements>Get fucking obliteratedNot a bad campaign desu.
>>719916529Rumors are Total War Age of Sigmar
>>719918146The gun would point at my head so fucking fast
>>719918146
>>719914029OH N-
>>719917264>40k is skirmish based, you never have thousands of units on your boardWhat a ridiculous argument, yes the tabletop game isn't thousands of models but the lore absolutely is.
>>719917018They're isolationists that writers sideline until they need an exotic faction in the mix, like tomb kings.
>>719917264You aren't running thousands of units in a Fantasy game either you fucking retard
>>719918146What, join the -ack is getting a sequel?
>play dwarfs>pretty cool how much damage my guns do and how long my frontline holds and how fucking much gold my deeps give, fuck, I’m auto resolving everything because I have 8 stacks just crushing endgame crisis>switch to nuln>well, my frontline doesn’t hold as good but artillery is great>oh wait, magic is fucking OP and I just delete most troublesome units with it>oh wait, my skirmishes so strong they delete two stacks of Skaven with rest of army just sitting back and watching >oh wait, I no longer have to pray that my thunderers kill fliers in time before they jump on artillery I can just send dragon to kill all enemy fliers >oh wait I have enough fast units I can bait enemy to overextend into my gun line or lure enemy units away from main fighting I love dwarfs by they are so fucking one dimensional it’s not funny
>>719918943>>719919053>muh lore>muh ACKuracy
>>719919128When did I mention lore you secondary faggot? You've no idea what you're fucking saying.
What's the current state of the game? I played one and two, never got around to playing three yet.
>wanna get git at TW>don't like Siegesheard there was an update around the corner >>719916529no
>>719919107Its why they're considered a beginner faction.
I haven't played in a long time, they ever improved Tehenhauin and Nakai?
>>719919232i accept your-your concession.
How about TW4, they just add Arabia, Japan and probably some 3rd race
>>719919470>Posting a lizard while acting like a ratLmao
>>719919497>frogs>lizards
>>719903742Fuck liggers.
>>719919492I really don't think they can top TWW3 introducing all the chaos factions. Anything else would feel like a step down.
>>719919492https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3007996493
Relish this chance to look upon your better.
>>719919284They improved old races to make them more fun
>>719919801Ah yes, the great gatsby, one of my favourites.
>>719919801>Oh look! He's been trained for over ten thousand years>Anyway I bolt him in the head
>>719920087kek
>>719919801Someone say buttah?
>>719918657It’s so sad Slaanesh corruption mod exists only for Miao and Katarin when it should be present for every female legendary hero
>>7199192843 somehow managed to have the worst main campaign with mechanics that actively punish you for playing the game and growing your empire. Siege AI is fucked since they incorporated tower defense into the game after massively expanding Sieges and making every other battle a siege for someone reason. Immortal Empires is impressive for it's scope but turn and load times get annoying. I don't get the appeal of it, I was never a fan of "OH BIG MAP". I like small focused campaigns but in general Total War isn't great at that so I don't blame it too much. Archers and Mages got balanced so they're no longer the spam to win option they were. High tier archers and mages are still great they're just not insta-win to the same extent they were in 2. The big thing 3 has over 2 is Diplomacy, Allies and Vassals actually work and feel like a worthwhile investment.I would honestly only really get Warhammer 3 if you particularly liked any of the factions that came with it.
>>719920151>Imrik sends 3 full stacks of dragons against you
>>719908394They reworked the tech tree which probably helped since their tech tree sucked but haven't tried it yet. I just want the geo web changed. Its a win more mechanic right now. By the time you have it ramped up you are already rolling and the bonuses matter less. Economy basically works the same way which is annoying
>>719920151It appears my superiority has led to some controversy
>>719920450>imrik >banging a nondragon womanNoncanon
>>719920450this nigga collects dragons like pokemon
every time I see Warhammer Fantasy I smile
>>719920331Playing as Chaos is the big appeal of 3. Uniting all the Chaos Warriors as Archaon and burning the world down is great
>>719919748Yeah. Can't wait until my other mods get updated.Especially Tomb Kings Extended.>>719919801How many Miao-Ying models did you order and how much did it burden the Caledorian Treasure Vaults? You having doomstacks of dragons already did a number on it.
>>719921049Really want him to have more dragons if the game allows to add them in.Like Magma Dragons, Shard Dragons, Warpfire Dragons...hell, now that we have Kislev and Ice Magic, maybe Ice and Frost Dragons can get ice magic instead of light magic (yeah, they had this for no reason).
Every time i see fantasy I get the urge to destroy it
My fat fuck
>>719904352>>719904485>>719910785These Necrons look too fleshy.
>>719917018As I understand it;>Slann: Completely amoral, super smart (but very slow in thought, they can spend decades in meditation over a math problem), dedicated to attempting to follow the Great Plan (or at least their interpretation of the faded million year old plaques they found in the basement). If they think the dust pattern on a plaque is a vague map of the World's Edge Mountains except your mountain is half a mile too far to the west, you better hold onto a pillar because they're going to mentally pick it up and put it back down again>Saurus: Biological robots. They'll give their lives freely to achieve their leader's goals, only the most badass have independent thought and can lead armies, the only thing that can make them break ranks is their predatory instincts firing up and you really don't want that>Skinks: The helpful little guys that keep everything running. They do everything from run maintenance to giving their Mage Priest sponge baths while he meditates. Have emotions and curiosity, some have even learned other languages and trade with other races (if you find one of their sacred plaques and communicate to them that you'd like to trade they'll happily dump a truckload of "useless" gold at your feet to bring it back and get mental headpats from their Mage Priest>Kroxigor: Brutes, used for heavy labour. They're retards but love skinks, and will latch onto them as partners and get upset if they get hurt
>>719922212I really need CA to get ordertide and chaostide endgame scenarios rolling. It sort of happens organically but not every time.
>>719924974Necrons don't have a character that balls as hard as Settra, unfortunately.
How would he fare in Warhammer Fantasyland?
>>719917018True neutrals.
>>719926643He's already in but as a lizard by mistake
>>719926643He'd do great until the end times wherein he is unceremoniously killed off because he was stricken retarded.
>>719926914There's like 3 lizards that are like Jack so I'm not sure which one specifically you were thinking about
>>719927910The chameleon
>>719927931The chameleon doesn't straight up do suplexes and chokeslams on things thrice his size
>>719928003Kroc Gar then.
>>719923356Alan Merrett in our very thread, what an honor!
>>719903742>campaign is a giant pain in the ass>warmbloods declare war out of fucking nowhere>first 30 turns, mazda's in his walker, useless>have to fight and purge warmbloods to reach level 26 and unlock zlaaq>mazda becomes ungodly strong, only limited by his speed>the first ~100 turns teach you to hate warmbloods and genuinely desire their extinction (new world colonies, huntsmarshall expedition, cult of pleasure, spine of sotek dorfs, possibly Caledor and Tiranoc, etc)I miss the WH2 mazdamundi experience, power creep is a bitch, although he's still a mighty LL in his own right - same as most ligger LL's (Nakai, Gor rok and Kroq-gar shine maybe brighter than he in WH3.) The WH2 mazdamundi campaign feel was genuinely Art in the emotions it evoked in the player.
>>719924328nice
>>719924328Tell it to lose some weightWhy is the filename japanese bro
I think the Empire is boring as shit
>>719931367I think Empire was genuinely created as a "sweaty Total War player who is genuinely unaware of WHFB" faction, although this may apply to Bretonnia in a sense too. Empire is "newbie faction" but I've always thought it was only TWH newbie friendly , not TW newbie friendly - and even then, Greenskins always felt more intuitive to the bloodthirsty autistic histfag crowd imho.
How the heck do you siege as bretonnia...Horses can't climb walls..
>>719920229>>719914029where to get coom mod now?
>>719931712you genuinely have to learn what the AI thinks is a fair fight and siege with that - since "the lady's blessing" campaign effect lasts until you retreat, you have to lay siege with like 20+/-2 units and dedicate multiple armies to winning battles or sieging. Bretonnia is unironically, unintentonally, undisputably the TRVE VNDERSTANDER faction.
>>719931718lover slab
>>719926914>>719927910as the Everchosen, you mean
>>719932486I’ve done Be’lakor a couple times but never actually done a full Archaon campaign. What’s a good endgame scenario for him?
>>719931887I really love Bretonnia's aesthetics and style, but sadly I'm too smooth brain to constantly micromanage cavalry constantly.
Mods are asleep, post funny rats.
>>719932792I've gotten better at it but I felt this way about Tomb Kings chariots for a while
>>719917018They are aligned with the Great Plan, which was an Old Ones process that is meant to eradicate Chaos from the world once and for all. With regards to non-lizards, in general you'll find numerous cases that are /absolutely/ KoS with no exceptions, like Skaven, literally anything aligned with Chaos (Warriors, Norscans, Beastmen, etc.), almost everything undead (with extremely rare exceptions, Khalida has been noted to have correspondence with lizardmen agents in Lustria), and nearly 100% of the time with Dark Elves. Wood Elves have 0 reason to be in Lustria because they're busy murdering everything trying to infiltrate Athel Loren, so it's presumed they just enjoy not having to deal with each other, High Elves are 50/50 because usually they are smart enough to not fuck around in Lustria, but in rare cases where it's necessary, they can interact with Skinks and navigate peacefully or they choose to simply do a rapid-pace invasion and quickly get the tiny thing they seriously need and wind up hounded down from the second they touch the beach to the second they embark on exit. Non-Chaos humans are dicey, because Skinks are able to negotiate and have dialogue with humans, it's known that traders can bring things to and from Lustria, pleas or knowledge about things that can purge Chaos or Chaos elements or trackers who are good at warning lizards and Amazons all have correspondence with Skinks. However, it's also noted that not only are humans noted to actually be considered a delicious delicacy on Lustria, but Saurus and Kroxigors literally do not have the capacity to engage with humans in a manner that is not explicitly combat-related, and Slann are so indifferent to human affairs that it is impossible to gauge their response to a human in Lustria. They are "Good" insofar as they want to eradicate Chaos, but they are hostile to most life on the planet.
Archaon is the real protagonist of Warhammer
>>719933791That's not how you spell Grimgor.
>>719933834Who?
>>719933989The ork that saved the world with a kick to the dick.
>play as Alith Anar>build nothing but stack of Shadow-Walkers>just non-stop druchii murder campaignHe's honestly really fun.
The giants got genocided by THIS?!
I FUCKING LOVE MSEOAMERICAN LIZARDS >>719906009THIS WORLD WILL BE CLEANSED
>>719932486Archaon is the reverse Jack thoughJack became chaos to bring light
>every campaign too far south of the map has to go through the pain of fighting Kairos and his city swap bullshit and has to go into attrition wasteland and waters to do soDo your fucking job Oxyotl
I liked this update for the Tomb Kings but for fuck's sake can we get a generic liche priest lord? Just for the sake of switching things up a little in the campaign.
>>719934901There were like twenty ogres for every one giant, they never had a chance.
>>719912013>Save Kroq-Gar's ass in my last Khalida campaign>Sits in his one province for a hundred fucking turns >recruits a hero fifty turns in to make me think he might actually do somethingI wish they would fix this shit, it's fucking infuriating.
>>719935089>"Your call to Oxyotl has been lost in the warp. Please HALT FACTION as we reroute you to the nearest Bloodthirster."-Kairos
>>719909069it doesnt help that the only fun battles are flat terrain which you will NEVER get
>>719916379Golgfag is really fun, and I wish Vampire Coast played a little more like him. Just fuck off for a few turns, beat the ever loving shit out of someone, make a huge pile of gold, and go do it again. It's great.
>>719906813
>>719935089Had a fun Wurrzag campaign where the fucker declared war on me, so I sailed down, bashed his head in, and sold him back his capital for a military alliance. Then we conquered the world together.
>>719935089at least he only has a couple settlementswulfrik has a fucking million
>>719903742Will the great plan include CA shitting out a game that doesn't have braindead AI?
>>719913821everyone look! it's carl frank the human!
>>719936947People don't talk about this enough. There are more Norscan warbands than there are stars in the sky, and now they're slated to get new units and probably an OP re-work
>>719935174Yeah its really weird only LLs and heroes can cast spells with the TKs. Just make the spell lords weaker in combat.
>>719937730just never take a port settlement again
>>719925581The funny thing with skinks is that they are so emotional they spawned a new god of furrfag racism called Sotek because they HATE skavens. This puzzles the slanns who don't if it's part of the Plan™ or not
>>719938104Khatep gets a Casket of Souls mount rright? That'd be a perfect late game mount for a Liche Priest Generic Lord.
