silksong is hurting indie devs by being priced so low
>>719916439what makes this specific type of game dev so fucking whiney and inherently dismissive of any and all input that goes against them making 200k a year on minimal effort pixel shit
>>719916439>”The Gamer”>lizard brainidk why he even makes games considering how much disdain he has for people who play them
Don't careDidn't askGo back to X
>>719917076that isnt x
>>719916439You mean it hurts Borderlands 4. No indies complained. That post you wrote on fag twitter and reposted here doesn't even mention indie.Fuck Borderlands 4. It should cost $5. All other AAA games should be no more than $10.
>>719917150Off-brand X, same difference
>>719917179unbeatable is an indie game that hes working on
These guys don't realize how off-putting this behavior is. I don't care what you price your game, you sound like an annoying faggot and therefore I will ignore your work. I don't even care about Silksong, but at the very least I know what it is, and that the devs aren't whiny fags. Still not playing flash game slop.
>>719917616they talk like they deserve my money.Team Cherry never made a single statement like this shit.well they barely made any statements at all, which I am also impressed by, just "its coming out in 2 weeks, here it is"
>>719916439unbeatable actually looks good, wonder what the pricing rug pull is gonna be if the devs feel the need to get ahead of it with statements like these
>>719917150Neither is this
>>719916439Anyone who complains about people having standards should be ignored. He has just proclaimed that his opinion is worthless
>>719916439Kek fuck yes finally, I want to see more of this specific crying
>>719916439who cares it's not a charity, if your game flops it's not what people want. try again or get a job doing something elss
>you'll never have the ego and misguided confidence of an indie devLife would be so much easier.
>>719916439This person is just unironically an entitled, selfish retard.The exact same worthless cunt that complained about Baldur's Gate 3 being """too good."""
>>719916439Isn't this faggot a Homestuck musician
>>719916439>Indie devs think they can charge $70 No
>unbeatableOh, OF COURSE it's the second coming of Goodbye Volcano High.
>I don't actually want to make gamesholy mald
>>719916439>games price increase >NOOOOO>games are cheap>NOOOOOMake it make sense
>>719916439> why things cost what they dosome people do things with software that takes others 100 times longer or they just cannot do at all and marxist retards can't cope
>>719916439>these devs are independently wealthybecause they made a really good game that was fairly priced that sold a lot something you will never do
>>719916439>devs create a work of passion and price it reasonably>this is a bad thingThis shit is why I wish games would go back to the days where only dedicated nerds made them and played them. The Gower brothers made Runescape in their mom's basement as a fun project, for example.
>>719916717narcissism and san francisco rent
>>719916439Back in my day indie games where free or maybe, very occasionally, 10 bucks off their website. I don't really care about this "I'm gonna make it big" shit going on now.
>>719916439>Effects>Good>The GamerThese are not nouns. This loser suffers from terminal brainrot. In his eyes you are the product. He is owed you're money. Anything that prevent him from getting any of your money for any reason is evil. He does not care about games. He does not care about his game except in the abstract that it represents why he is owed your money. This dev deserves to suffer.Pic rel is the game he made. An episodic demo that he has released three different times with different titles each time to scam "The Gamer" out of the money that he believes he is owed.
>>719916439Why did nobody complain about Deltarune being 25$?
When will they learn that price and cost are two independent numbers
>>719916439Competition's a bitch, ain't it? Make something worth charging more for, "indie" devs, then you can charge more for it.
Good.>twitter screencap threadDie.
>>719919402Unbeatable isn't a shitty visual novel full of tranny garbage though, it's a rhythm game
>>719920235what the fuck causes this particular mental illness? No one cares about Unbeatable, even if it was 20 dollars.
>>719916439Why is it that the same guys who whine about us "objectifying" when we question their shitty art also talk about us like we are gross beasts? What the fuck is "The Gamer", it sound dehumanizing?
>>719916717There's like 5 people who've made 200k a year on pixel shit. Looked up that guy and he's a visual novel developer, so that explains it.But silksong will fuck up some indie devs in the short term.
>>719916439added his game to my ignore list <3
>>719920592Because it should've been cheaper
Eh Im an indie dev and I'm not worried too much since I wasn't planning on charging more than 12 bucks for my game and it isn't really the same genre as SilkSong anyway.
>>719920235>effect>not a nounAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ESL DETECTED
>>719922168I'm an indie dev and I'm planning to charge $20 for my game. Is it as high quality as silksong, probably not.But is it a completely different niche and hence not comparable, yes.This isn't setting a new mark for indie games, the people who want smaller indies know what they generally cost. The big indie players rarely see the small ones.
>>719921937>visual novel developeroh, so he isnt a real game dev
this is objectively true. not everyone has the time or money to be functionally retired, working on a game at your own pace until it's done. the stardew valley guy worked on and off for 7 years while holding full-time jobs. the cuphead guys remortgaged their house and went into absurd credit card debt so they could work on it full-time. if you do all of that and then sell your game for cheap you're fucked if it's anything other than a gigantic viral smash
>>719916439corpo types really love complaining about their competition in retarded ways and get confused when there is backlash, twitter isn't linkedin you fucking salesman make a better product instead of bitching about other products, imagine if the head of burger king started complaining mcdonalds was priced too low, fucking retarded
>>719922168I am planning on making a game for 10 dollars. I'll also ensure that it is at least 10 hours to play through. If my idea is good enough I could easily get 100,000 sales and 10 dollars enough to make that into 1 million. While Steam would take a chunk, that is still more than enough for me to live on and use to take time to make another game. The only "indie" games that charge absurd amounts are the ones who hire a massive unnecessary team because they don't want to have to learn much. They need more because it quickly turns what would be like the lottery for one person into barely liveable for multiple people. tldr: low prices will always be good to attract sales
>>719917076what does the horror board has to do with any of this??
>>719920592You will never ever ever ever strike our Pure Saint of Videogames Toby "Radiation" Fox.
>>719916439Nobody cares, and nobody should care. Games are a luxury, not a necessity.We are in an era of dissolution and upheaval again.Scarcity is progressing and class divide is increasing. In the midst of Humanity as a whole having less and less money to spend now, at the same time, you have an oversaturation of entertainment and video games.Meaning you not only have people with less to spend; those same people are immune to spending bait. Oversaturation gives birth to immunity towards being gaslit, manipulated, exploited, hyped, advertised, marketed, treated like a product yourself, by corporations and indie creators alike.That means the control is in the hands of the consumers, no longer is it in the hands of creators. Theory of self-interest 101: If you have a society unwilling to waste resources, and if that society has ample replacement for your shit produce, more replacement than there is lifespan to invest in it, your only remaining strategy in this new era is no longer to whine your entitlement to people's money, it's to figure out how to suck their cock. You will suck gamers' cocks to monopolise that little grain of attention span and pity they are willing to give needlessly, or perish in irrelevance. This is the simple objective, scientific, mathematical, quantified fact of life now - as pertains to luxury industries such as entertainment and within entertainment the small subdivision of gaming. We ain't even tackled books, comics, movies, real life hobbies, etc. as time and attention span monopolies stealing your customerbase themselves, also oversaturated EACH beyond a lifespan's reach to go through it all. So, get to sucking bitch.
>>719919501Top and bottom are different groups of people
Indie devs arent pre owed your money.
>>719916439My game is $6, will you be there for me anon?
>>719916439Indie devs love pretending to be so much better than the big, evil, greedy corpos, but this anti-consumer, anti-competition mindset is exactly what corporations have.
>>719916439I was looking forward to Unbeatable but now I will make sure I wait until it drops to $20 before buying it.
>>719920235>This loser suffers from terminal brainrot.Anon if you think that's bad...
>>719926456i'm not that rich to buy cheap things, sorry
>>719916439>I average 3 hours a day working on my game>after 6 years I release an early access on steam for $40>In a few months, I recoup 1 year of costs and then sales stop entirely>I blame steam for drowning indie titles behind big AAA releases>I blame steam for taking too large a cut from the sale>I blame other indie game for being cheaper and better>I blame the gamer for being broke and not buying my game even if they arent going to play it>I blame racists because my game has a black characterI actually hate indie devs. Some of the games are great but dear god are they insufferable. Indie dev must have the single highest tranny population of any job description on earth.
>>719916439Based on how this guy writes, his game deserves to flop.
>>719916439customers have no obligation to be understanding
>>719922640Team cherry did that too. Survived off of their friends' leftovers.
I did not assume Silksong was 20$ because it was cheap to make. I just assumed they wanted people to buy the game without a second thought and so I bought it without a second thought. I literally could have pirated it.
The guy who created Owl Boy is a genuine fucking master of sprite work and probably a genuine important bundle of knowledge. His game took many years to come out. It fucking sucked and just because its gorgeous and the guy behind it is talented does not mean you have to buy his game.Its a harsh reality but what the fuck do people expect the world to operate? I have a ton of games I fucking love that sold like dog shit and that's life.
>>719916439Good I hate the games industry they're a load of fags
>>719927841>piratefag suddenly grows a conscienceYou are officially kicked out of the pirate union.
>>719928225That's not even remotely the takeaway from that. I have a price I pirate at and a price I don't.
>>719916439It's simple. Make a game at least as good as Silksong, then ask $20 for it. What's the issue here?
>>719916439you're allowed to set your price however you like, it's a free market
>>719916439This is like the indie counterpart to that shitty "deprofessionalization" article. The video game industry gold rush is over and mediocre AAA and indies alike are left sifting for pyrite. No one gives a fuck what journos think deserve success, who gets laid off, or what poow widdle developews wowked weawwy weawwy hawd on. Make something worthwhile that people are eager to throw money at or eat shit. Content is king and there's decades of it to go back to if new releases stop delivering the goods.
>>719916439GAMERS AREN"T GOING TO PAYING MORE THAN TWENTY DOLLARS FOR GAMES FROM NOBODY INDIE DEVS, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING HEADS OR PUT A BULLET IN IT.
Ender Lilies launched at 25 bucks so if Cherry had added 5 bucks to the pricing I don't think anyone would have complained.
>>719929069If your game features a loli you can add up to 40 dollars to its price and it will still be worth it.
>>719928880Marketing is the king.
>>719921190Trailer says otherwise.
>>719921937>VN developerOh so 90% of Silksong's audience won't be an audience for his gameAnd I say this as someone who's bought and enjoyed plenty of low and high budget VNs
>>719916439imagine admitting to the public you are a greedy fagget with a shit game, with your own game and company in that account and then thinking huh? why don't have have $200+ millionTeam cherry are veterans from the game industry, they have professionalism unlike this bedroom troon devs who lack communication training.
