Silksong discussion thread.
>>719953928Im at the cogwork dancers. Did yall finish the game? Btw kinda surprised its so short at around 15 hours.
>Its another boss that does two damage on contact that summons addsWhy
I just got the sprint and it makes the games 3 more enjoyable holy shit
FREN
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>>719953928I uninstalled it after 12 hours, it's a beautiful looking game but the mechanics are frustrating me too much.
>>719953951The map is like 5 times bigger than HK1 map. You fags are just rushing to the objective, lmao.
Beast crest is fucking shit>Grabs wanderer crestBEAST CREST IS FUCKING USELESS
>>719954073WOw.. 8 years..
>>719953928>God, I fucking hate the dive attack, all it does it ram me into enemies, why the fuck did they remove the downward slash that's easy to pogo with>unlock crest of wanderer>mfwI do hope though that whichever dipshit decided that this wasn't going to be the default moveset gets hit with a truck and dies after 20 hours of prolonged, excruciating agony.
>>719953928Can you fucking inbeciles shut up about this slop kusoge already?God, I swear this board is infested with actual trannies.
did anyone know where is the best place to farm rosary in act 2?
>>719956025youre moms house
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LAST PLASMIUM
Wow reddit HATES IT
>>719956927>Reddit is bad at planning and forward thinkingWho'd have known. I can understand the criticism of the run backs and the boss difficulty because it is comparable to trying to learn piano and every time you fuck up the song you get teleported down the street, but people who complain about the benches costing beads are midwits.
How much fucking money did the shill/bot army for this AAAslop shit cost?I like my metroidvanias indie...fuck hollowanus and Wokesong.
>got the crest that changes the down spike Thank GOD
>>719956927Benches cost at most 30 rosaries and you get at least 8-10 rosaries from the enemies that drop them. There's a lot of people who suck at video games playing silksong
you can farm the shit out of the ants the moment you get reaper pogoing off the ants directly make it so MUCH easier.
is silksong truly shorter than the first game?
Did everyone realize the difficulty is bullshit? Artificial time wasting bullshit.
If Hornet has had several lovers, but everyone recognizes her as a child, that means all of her lovers were pedo bugs.Something to think about.
how the fuck do I get back to act 1 after getting the oil? do I really have to backtrack the entire fucking citadel
25 hours in, playing it completionist style. I still haven't gotten around to getting all the music in the Citadel, I've mostly been busy exploring Pharloom (found a pretty obscure area considering it's tucked in a hidden corner of Greymoor). There's a goddamn Act 3 isn't there? I don't think I can do the completion run in 30 hours
>>719959408Let me frame it like this. Team Cherry has had 7 years to make this game, the community has been active that entire time. Every day the community has been asking them "where is Silk Song, where is Silk Song." Team Cherry then decide to glance over the feedback for the game and under a video for the Traitor Lord boss they see people going "I hated this boss, the trek back was soooo long." Team Cherry then do a Grinch smile and go you know what, let's do that for every boss but make it worse. Also the bosses take way longer to kill and do more damage.
>>719956927It only took a couple of practice goes and I was able to pogo across those red flowers with ease. I don't get all the meltdowns about them
>>719959330No it's literally twice as big. Faggots are just rushing it
why is bilewater so hard to exit from
I played the first game and while I thought it was very enjoyable when I was playing it really didn't leave any lasting impact afterwards.Would this entry change my mind?
Speaking of rosaries, have you found any good places to farm them? I got a place in the Citadel that gives me about 100 per minute, wondering if any of you have something better than that.
>>719956927>RedditWho gives a fuck what reddit thinks?
>>719954003
can i get the double jump as soon as i enter the ice area?
Where is the item to use these fucking rings?ree
>Old lady is no longer at the Chapel Bros...?
Why explore if its all fucking beads
Weavelight or poison?
>>719955929i havent switched off hunter crest specifically because the diagonal pogo is way more fun, but then again im a castlevania chad
>>719954141The maps are also 5 times emptier than Hitler Knight 1. Run past them once and you've seen it all.
I just hit choral chambers and I'm feeling the kino. The music is amazing.
>>719955992>kusoge
>>719959715most people are spastics and constantly mash the pogo button without realizing that you have to let your bounce hit the highest point if you want to be consistent.
>>719956927the only real thing about this image are the 5 beads
ASTROTURFED MULTIMILLION DOLLAR AD CAMPAIGN.AN ARMY OF SHILLSAN ARMY OF BOTSWOKE LESBIAN BUGSAAASLOP GAME MASQUERADING AS INDIEThat basically sums it up yeah?
People bullshitting about this not being a metroidvania when there's like 10 zones you don't even need to visit that they added anyway
S-so whats the name of the location where some bug tranny steals Hornet's cloak?
>>719953928maybe now things aren't as noisy. I'd like to ask.does it bring anything new? or ist just hollow knight 2, now you are a girl?
>>719960384time to become a beastCHADnow I can't go back to the other pogos
Bros... reddit is actually right on this one. Why are the rewards for exploration and defeating bosses so fucking bad?
>>719960531That's not what a metroidvania is. That's open world sandbox roguelite slop.
>>719960327You don’t like currency that you then have to backtrack to spend? How about a few sentences of zanzibart lore?
>>719960428Lost your way resettera trannyniger?
Seriously, what the fuck is this fight? I'm not 20 years old anymore, god damn.
>>719960390The game has significantly more upgrades and items to find. Your depression is overwhelming.
You can tell the chinks are fucking mad at the popularity of this game regardless of their crying.
the fuck was that shit with skull tyrant?
Is there a way to not get fucking cancer when touching water in bilewater?
bros where's the fucking pervert flea npc hiding i cant find him he's supposed to be in top right corner of greymoor somewhere but WHERE PLEASE HELP
>>719960629>explore some dead end in the citadel>there's literally nothingthat has been the only thing that actually offended me so far
What the fuck are the silver bells and where do I find them? I ran through Bellhart top to bottom three times, didn't see anything new.
>>719960764Chinks get mad at anything.
>>719960778no
>>719960778how did you leave the area back to greymoore
>>719960747Why are you so fucking slow? You can literally jump out of the parry.
>>719960778Nope. Have fun wasting an entire heal!Oh, oops. You just touched the water again. Guess you'll have to waste yet another one! Fun!
>>719960797they seem to spawn randomly as you explore the tunnels below and above bellhomeif you clear those areas a few times you'll find them
>>719960818>>719960856How the fuck am I supposed to do the gauntlet and the fucking boss when I have to run back for 10 minutes and get cancer on the way?
>>719960629God I hate all the retarded tourists who arrowpost off-site.
>>719960902There's a bench nearby that you missed.
>Ruins your runback by standing between you and the bells>Knocks you back in midair and throws you into the worms>Wastes your HP and timeNOTHING PERSONELL KID
>>719960902Guess. There's a hidden bench closer.Keep in mind that not being able to heal isn't the end of the world and the boss isn't hard.
You do realize that you can just equip a charm that makes you immune to leeches, right?
>>719960747i'm guessing you come back with a projectile attack
>>719960948Where? Only found a fucking fake one.
I heard there was a mask shard near The Wormways, through the door that you open with the simple key, but I haven't found anything
>>719960958Are flying enemies supposed to be kiting gods? I swear those fuckers always move juuuust out of your range.
>>719960629>Reddit>Green textDid you write that?
>>719960987Post map.
>>719960993They are coded to stay away from you and lead their shots if possibleIn Hollow Knight only the advanced versions did this, in Silksong all flying enemies do it.
>enemies in the underworks start taking 5 (FIVE) hits with an upgraded needle to kill
>>719960746>one word is all it takes for anon to have an autistic diaper shitting meltdown>a word he typed no less
>>719960993>I swear those fuckers always move juuuust out of your range.This is the most obnoxious thing about the fucking game.It's like it's designed to piss you off and waste as much of your time as possible.
>>719957496>benches cost at most 30 rosarieslmaoKeep playing the game :)
>>719954073hltb has been shit for years. i enjoy my vidya and they take much much longer. the fags that submit their times there use guides and cheats because finishing asap is the goal for them.
>>719961024
Imagine doing this shit on steel soulAlso I think I got the bad ending? I know there was some stuff I missed.And 1: is the double jump in this game or not 2: that final boss was kind of disappointing, and easy
>>719960796>>719960629>>719960913>>719960629Side is beyond compromised. These stupid nigger just come to the site to cry and form parasocial relationshipkill yourself you stupid nigger cuck, worthless zoomtard nigro
>>719960774An easy fight. Just throw boomerangs and set traps, bro.
>>719961107>Bro missed the fucking mountain
>>719961076according to you? Go back dude, you are obviously mentally unstable.
>>719960867>belowThere's below?
>Literally have to stand around and wait for fliers to MAYBE come back into rangeWow this is epic
>>719961103You missed a secret area here.
>>719954073To be fair, a lot of that may be due to HK having jack shit movement upgrades for 2/3 of the game.
>>719961146yeah, but why did he come back?
This game isn't that hard, the complaining is insane. Elden Ring was harder.
>>719961195Uh oh, melty!
Frens, how do I kill savage beastfly? I can do his first phase hitless, but his second phase seems very RNG dependant as in sometimes it doesn't spawn adds until much later and sometimes it starts spawning adds from the start of the phase. Also the spawns themselves seem random so sometimes I get weak bugs I can mostly ignore but sometimes I get the big bois that take up so much space dodging the boss seems impossible. I have tried bursting down the spawns as soon as they arrive with thread storm and that usually works but eventually I can't keep up with the spawns and get fucked. I know I can also bait the boss to crush them but that doesn't always work out. I have more trouble with beastfly than I had with widow lmao.
>>719961107>is the double jump in this game or not It's in the icy mountain region.
how to get the true ending?
>>719961248Like this.
>>719961239>This game isn't that hardCome back once you reach Last Judge.
>>719961159 The mountain? I thought I needed double jump to get past that sloping incline so I left. I still don't know how you're supposed to do it
>>719961245Don't you have fake predators to catch in roblox? go diddle a kid loser
>>719959556where do i get the oil
>>719961291That image is really fucking funny
>>719961294I'm in Act 2 nigga.
I havent been able to play much yet but I just beat the bird guy in Greymoor. The game is great and I love seeing reddit seethe about it. IMO the game was “bad” slightly worse HK until I got the dash/sprint from Hunters March (thankfully this was one of the first areas I went to). After that it clicked for me how aggressive and fast you can move with Hornet and suddenly I was having a ton of fun. A lot of crying plebbitors seem to be playing the game like HK. With hornets fast speed, high jump, air heal, tools, and if you are good and confident enough her spells, her playstyle is much different from HK. I actually think its genius how they used subtle changes to completely shift the playstyle with Hornet while still making the game feel like HK. Right now the game is a 8/10 for me and im expecting that to go up as the bosses get more interesting and I unlock more tools and abilities.
>>719961316You don't use the slope the climb, dumbo!
>>719961107> that final boss was kind of disappointing, and easy Supposedly it's the hollow knight equivalent. But yeah, I watched a video of the fight and it was pretty meh. Basically just one half of the radiance.
>>719961291The average gauntlet experience
>>719961294Last Judge is a noob filter, zero bullshit moves, everything telegraphed, it only took me like 5 attempts to get a clean runThe fucking lunch lady in sinner's road and the raging drillbug in sands of karak are 10 times more difficult
>>719959556Keep exploring, you'll find a way eventually.>>719961378Sure you are.
>>719961197yescheck for secret walls in the bellway station
>>719960958A bench right before the Last Judge is literally all it takes to fix that fight. Fucking ridiculous that you have to deal with these cunts every time you want to take another shot at her.
Bellhart is my personal City of Tears. Holy shit.So much of the game just CLICKED because of this part.>the entire haunted intro>all the different ways you can reach it (I went to it via Wormways)>the easter egg if you rest on the bench and close the game>Willow fight is pure KINO and one of the best fights in the franchise>the music of the saved Bellhart>and finally the fucking nail upgradeJust a great time all around.
>>719961440I beat Pantheon 5, Silksong has been a cake walk.
>>719961438Hehe the raging drillbug is easy to cheese in phase 2 if you just let yourself get hit by the minion when he summons them next to him and stand there hitting him, lots of damage for 1 hp.
>>719961197Station there's a NPCThen there's another hidden cave with more mobs
>>719961404 No, like, the enemies in that room were too far for me to reach with the spear thingy [spoiler[
>>719961291Kek, I had something similar happen. Do I just ignore the adds and try to focus down the boss? I feel like he has a huge lifepool and trying to focus him down just gets you swarmed.
>>719961491And it's a real shame, because for all its glory literally nothing is done with it.I'm really confused as to why they didn't turn that place into the main city.
>>719961491>the easter egg if you rest on the bench and close the gameQRD?
>>719960747Lace 2 is easy, how the fuck did you even get there if you're that bad.
>>719961527It's very doable, you either hit an enemy, a lift or the wall on the left when getting up.
>>719961518I'd rather take 2 damage and beat the fight like a man
Tips on how to reach the zone to the right of far lands?
I found the Reaper Crest and anons were right, it definitely does help the combat immensely to get rid of the cringe ass diagonal downslash. However it doesn't fully alleviate the feeling of being gimped during a fight. The Reaper Crest's moveset is kind of gimped in other respects: you can't swing fast and your up-attack is behind you for some stupid ass reason. "Oh, you want the game to not be clunky? Suffer." - TC. You still can't chain pogo due to the slow swing speed and how far upwards the pogo sends you flying. Enemies are still programmed to leap backwards 15m after every swing like they're Elden Ring bosses so you can't get a retaliatory hit in, especially not when they also enter guarding stances whenever they're not attacking. The combat loop still mostly feels like "wait for your chance to matador the enemy and maybe get in a second hit if the stars align." My feeling is that this is still dragging itself out way too hard for how little drops the enemies give and how many of them take as long as full-fledged HK minibosses to kill. Also, I dunno if this is the intended first playthrough experience, but I'm needing to conserve so much silk to heal that I'm basically never ever pressing F to launch my needle. I'm also so perpetually broke that I've bought practically none of the tools for sale. The resource economy in this game is mega fucked up. Oh yeah sure maybe on a hypothetical playthrough 2 when I'm better at the game this loosens up. Am I particularly inclined to do that playthrough 2? Not really do far.Ultimately, I feel like this game has fallen for the "games don't NEED to be fun to play!" brainrot. The default control scheme is unnecessarily tryhard clunk and since that's the intended experience any powerup you get that could potentially help out comes with a giant laundry list of compromises to make it clunky in other ways.
BILEWATER IS THE WORST FUCKING ZONE IN EXISTENCE I HATE THAT FUCKING BOSS
>upgrade needle>bugs that take 3 hits still take 3 hitswow thanks
What's everyone's favorite Crest? I really like Architect.
>>719953928why is run back on last judge so ass?
>>719960629in act 2 they're still giving out rosaries and shards of all things for deep exploration, when the farm for both is trivial by then. it's a consequence of bloat, they ran out of good things to hide as treasure.
the game is bugged, shakra doesn't come to help you fight the gauntlet
>>719961639Damn nigga, you really expect me to read>all that text>by you
>>719961656I have 6 crests and out of those, wanderer is by far the best.
>>719961603Ugh, fine, I guess I'll go back to it
>>719961248bait slam attacks by staying below him and each time he slams, sidestep and hit him. its 3 free hits each time. prioritize making him kill his summons with the slam even if it costs you taking damage. the 2nd silk skill that does the 360 area attack is pretty useful too
>>719961681Yeah I do, fag.
>>719961647i hate exploring it and getting lost
>>719961735No usage of paragraphs means it's not worthy of being read.
what a relaxing bullethell fight
Haven’t played it yet but I take it from reading the reactions so far is it’s no longer much of a Metroidvania and is now a full on platformer with a bad currency system? Sounds awful desu
>>719957403Post 'ick or gtfo
>>719961668>it's a consequence of bloat, they ran out of good things to hide as treasure.It's the opposite, actually. There aren't enough things in the game to find as rewards. Imo they should've cut the number of shopkeepers by half at least and just hidden those upgrades behind bosses and exploration.
>>719954003When uneducated poltardation meets v/irgin genetic dead end cringe. Grim.
>>719961783The fact that there's no reddit spacing doesn't mean there arent paragraphs
>>719961639uuuuuh that's nice, sweetie :)I really like the default hunter style, it feels niceAnd I'm getting used to beast, outside of down attack it shreds
>>719961794Nah it's still a metroidvania.It's just that the devs based the difficulty on the game on people who played their butthard DLCs.
>>719961707It's funny how wanderer is just the kit from the first game except you're using a kitchen knife, and it's still miles better than any of the other ones. It feels like they trained Hornet wrong as a joke lmao
>>719961713Been doing that but I can't seem to get him to slam that often. Also when the adds spawn in they have i-frames so sometimes the slam direct impacts a fresh spawn and they just tank it. Watched some youtube videos and it seems there's A LOT of variance in how many adds get spawned and what kind so I'll just keep grinding until I get lucky with the spawns. Bloatfly itself is basically harmless alone.
>>719953928Is there like any boss or something in whiteward? It seems rather short
Found Beast Crest>who even made thisFound Reaper>ok thats kind of betterFound Wanderer>dear lord
>>719961860>the devs based the difficulty on the game on people who played their butthard DLCsThis. And it's fucking mind-boggling because the biggest complaints about Hollow Knight come from that dogshit DLC.
>>719961792when she does a multi hit, press attack into it and keep mashingbeast is really good in this fight, you get to do so much dmg with dash attack+ normal attack
why do I need a split second reaction at the judge it's not fair
>Last JudgeYou can't be serious, that whole runback? Please tell me there's a closer bench. You all did this?
Genuinely what is the counterplay to flying enemies? It feels less like I'm beating them and more like they're just letting me win
>>719961904Only Godhome is bad if you're a completionist who has to force himself to play Pantheon 5 over and over again for like 50 hours.
so what does it do?
>>719961812>Imo they should've cut the number of shopkeepers by half at least and just hidden those upgrades behind bosses and exploration.Yep. This is basically the crux of the problem.They wanted to push the "ALIVE WORLD FILLED WITH NPCs" gimmick too hard.So what happened are was that the rewards are rosaries because you use rosaries to buy shit from NPCs.
>>719961821>pubes are politically incorrectthey shouldn't have closed down the asylums
>>719961961Just wait a thousand hours for them to get close.
>>719954073>>719954317>>719961231Bait or retardation
>>719961962Anon, the true ending is locked behind P5.If you didn't beat P5 (which takes 30 to 40 minutes per attempt), you quite literally didn't beat the game.And this is for real, since that ending is referenced in the true ending of SIlksong.
Is there an ending where Hornet marries Zote?
>>719961639Yea...
>spend half-an-hour positioning a fly to pogo up here>boss on the other endIs he easy or should I just fuck off? Cannot be bothered getting back up here again
>left thumb is red and sore after 4 hrs of playI think I'm gonna be on MKB from here on out.Also, I spent the key I bought from the merchant on the Wormways door, did I fuck up?
>>719961792this, last judge, and clockwork are actually fun fights
>>719961964the welcomer thanks you and i think it spawns the guy calling you a slave below the station
>>719962029I did beat it and it wasn't worth it.
>hey you find the parkour sections kind of tedious? Don't worry, we'll make it worse by adding flying mobs!Why
>>719954003HOLY FUCKING BASEDPUBA GOOD
Man, crazy how hard /v/ has changed. People at least used to be embarassed about being bad at games, so if a game was too hard for them, they would just shut up and not post. But now, the newfags all feel entitled to beating every game without putting an ounce of effort into it.
>>719961845The Hunter crest is putting you at the mercy of Team Cherry's autistic need to cuck you in combat. The trident worms in Greymoor are a perfect example>Lunge forward while attacking so you whiff the diagonal on the forward swing>Dash backwards after every swing by an amount specifically calibrated to make you whiff a retaliatory diagonalYou gotta study the fucking framedata to get a pogo on those sluts, and the intended way is clearly sprinting back and forth while doing dash attacks which takes forever. The whole game is like that with the Hunter crest, this is just one example. It's a strict, unambiguous downgrade to your DPS and overall combat flexibility from the first game. Just tedium.
>>719962092TCTroll Cherry
>>719961880Damn and I just beat him without any issues.>>719961713Thanks based anon. I was afraid of punishing the slam attacks but you're right, it's 3 free hits.
>>719962012>Shaved = globalismAre you fucking retarded or illiterate?
>>719961639>I'm basically never ever pressing F to launch my needleUnironically get good. The Knight in HK was a facetanker that could spam spells and heals, Hornet is a nimble glass cannon. At least with her spike trap tool I’ve found that I can basically melt some bosses if I place the traps properly and hit a few needle spells. If you are good at landing all the opportunities you have for damage you dont need to heal nearly as much.
>>719960629>not exploring for the love of the gameishiggydiggy
can I get a qrd on any story things that happened in the dlc of hollow knight? I got bored and quit at some point after the radiant ending
HAS ANYONE BEATEN THE FUCKING BILEWATER BOSS I FUCKING HATE IT I HOPE THE REWARD IS WORTH IT
>>719962104This game is artificial difficulty personified.
>>719962104The difference is that this isn't difficulty, it's just tedious.Fighting a boss in Silksong is like having to do forty pushups before being allowed to open your front door.
am I retarded or how the fuck do you do this? I can't gain enough height
>O HO HO HO HOSEX WITH LACE
>>719961960you don't have to fight any of the enemies so it doesn't take that long, the first flying enemy is the hardest to avoid but it's possible
>>719961960Welcome to normalfag filter #2
>>719955929There are only two people who made this game, so you're gonna kill half the company
>>719962083No, bug Diogenes is there from the get-go.
>>719962125Counterpoint: I just beat Last Judge with Hunter crest thanks to higher DPS compared to Reaper. Add the Flea Brew speedup to that and you're good for boss fights. However I re-equipped Reaper for the extra reach and knockback for general exploration.
>>719962205you would never survive nine sols faggot
>Equip plasmium phial with pollip pouch>Gives you an extra health but poisons you as well so you lose it straight away
>>719962176It's the regular radiance ending, but this time you become a void god and beat her ass for realyou then either consume the godseeker irl and fill the sewers with void tendrils or you brought her a flower beforehand and the void mass gets teleported somewhere else instead
>>719962104Wut? Newfags larping as oldfags are something else man. Too blind or too retarded to read what's on your screen?
>>719962083it gives you a home apparently
>doing pilgrim garb wish>pilgrim dies on spikes>no pilgrim garb spawns>pilgrim doesn't respawnDid I brick my file?
>>719962132It literally is since it started in the West in the 20th century and has since spread globally.
>>719962269>Hunter crest thanks to higher DPS compared to ReaperHuh? Do Crests have different damage values?
>>719962256Or they could have put a bench after the whole climb. Even without fighting anything and perfect platforming the run back is still 30 seconds.
>>719962167She's a nimble glass cannon because the hive bees trained her wrong as a joke, her moveset sucks ass and she's seemingly only capable of landing cheeky stray counterhits in an environment where everything needs like 10 hits to die.
>>719961860It doesn't feel like a metroidvania at all. Not a single time during my entire playthrough did I have that archetypical "get an ability and feel motivated to go back and explore old areas" feeling. The entire crest / tool system should have been scrapped and instead we needed 5++ more traversal / key abilities that open up the map. Remove that stupid quest system while we're at it and replace them with boss encounters / platforming sections / gauntlets that reward "charms" / mask shards / nail upgrades etc.
this game is so fucking hardmy thumbs hurtthe turning in air is so hard, having to constantly press A+X to hit anything is hard because everything is flying, its all very tiresomeI hate not being able to buy maps because enemies dont drop rosaries so if I see map guy I have to backtrack to farm, I hate fighting bosses because I know they wont even drop anything good, I hate dying in 3 hits all the time, I hate not being able to use my offensive spell because I have to save it for heal which costs 100% of mana this is a very hard game and Im not having a good time at all
>beat boss that 3 shots you and has a million health>get absolutely nothing for itThey really tried to make these victories as unsatisfying as possible
>>719962293>wutYou didn't even try to fit-in, lil bro. This is exactly what I'm talking about, and you just got got.
>>719962272Shut the fuck up, I beat Eigong and it was the best boss fight I've ever fought in my life.The difference being that Eigong was a test of skill and mastery over the game mechanics.
>>719962205Widow fight. First 2 stages are super easy but long, just to enter bullet hell. The boss breaks the ultimate sin of being both boring and hard, a rare combo.Captcga:japtax
>>719962104HK is gay and SS is gayer, you have no point and are a slop consooming fag
>Just got 4 hit combo'd when i have 6hpyeah ok game, that was bullshit
>>719962342you can upgrade hunter so it gets a damage buff if you dont get hit for a while
>>719962058iirc its a bunch of regular enemies in arena
Hornet's dive jump attack is the biggest filter in this game.
New all time high reached
>>719962269Oh I'm sure there's individual encounters that are easier with Hunter. It doesn't change the fact that the overall level/exploration experience was clearly designed explicitly around being as frustrating as possible while using the Hunter crest.
Widow was actually the first fight I would consider fun in this game.Took me 3 tries but the atacks and openings were super clear and the ways to dodge the atacks actually felt fluid. I hope there are more bosses like it moving on.
>>719962342No but Hunter attacks faster than Reaper. Reaper has longer reach, *possibly* greater enemy knockback and the extra silk mechanic.
>>719962386Is this bait or are you genuinely this retarded.
>>719962414>The boss breaks the ultimate sin of being both boring and hardWhich leads me back to what >>719961860 said.In order to beat the game you have to fight a boss which you're only allowed to fight after spending FORTY FUCKING MINUTES on beating the SAME FUCKING BOSSES over and over.It's insanity. I literally can't describe it any other way.
>>719962336See, poltarded genetic deadend retard. kys faggot.
>>719962358Not at all. You can be way more aggressive with her than The Knight before you get all his i-frame moves. Especially because a lot of enemies in SS are defensive and run from you. If you are good you can rape an enemy to death before they can even blink.
>>719962446>didnt even reach 600kOH NO NO NO NO LMAO
>>719962205You "it's tedious" niggers are the most disingenuous faggots on the entire board. Your ego is so large you can't admit you find something is hard so you come up with this cope excuse. Just admit you're a massive fucking shitter, nobody cares and it's less pathetic than this lying cope.
This whole time I didn’t realize you could hold dash
>>719962365>everything is flyingand those fliers are constantly flying away from you, FUN
>>719962437Cheers anon
>>719962369THAT is what is killing this shit for me.What the fuck did I get for killing an entire room full of uproarious retards? The opportunity to go to another area with a rewardless room full of uproarious retards for me to kill.When I kill the fucking Splinter Sister and the fucking journal says she's been eating pilgrims THEN HAVE HER DROP A FUCKING ROSARY CHAIN FOR FUCK'S SAKE
>>719962493How is something spreading globally not globalism?
>>719962534Maybe it will, today and tomorrow are weekends, and they haven't been losing any players mostly.
>>719962132>failing beginner level reading comprehensionunlucky genetic lottery
>>719962530You don’t know what the term “glass cannon “ means. Canons are supposed to hurt a lot when they hit, stupid
anyone tested this? is it just for the silk that's generated by silk hearts?
People complaining about the Last Judge runback don't know fucking shit
>>719962578You literally get a major movement upgrade after splinter sister. Stop whining
I'm tired of save quitting because I fell in the water on the way to boss. It takes me 5 minutes between each boss attempt.
I didn't even know the pogo attack existed until Shellwood. People are complaining about that?
I don't get it
>>719962556If you're so subhuman you actually think gathering 25 rags is hard and not timewasting busywork I've got a new gacha to sell you
>>719962636Devs are evil, this is the only good explanation for the run backs
>>719962365>saving your silk for healing and not using spellsironically, this is probably costing you more health overall given the spell cuts through most everything and the longer you spend fighting the more time for mistakes you'll have
>>719961792>bullethell >2 projectilesthis is why no one respects zoomniggers, actual braindead mongols
>>719962530She's a glass straw more like. Might as well be shooting spitballs.
beat the game 2x today. are there any speedrun records so far?
>>719962667USE YOUR DASHES YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID
>>719956927I'm not that far in yet but of the like 5 flying enemies I have seen so far only one has a ranged attack and plays keep away - and you can hit that guy by knocking his own attacks back at him. Also a "bottomless" pit wouldn't have a "walk back".
>>719962585Like 4chan?
>>719962613Clearly you arent using her tools and spells correctly. Ive spent way less time slowly poking a boss to death in this game than I did in HK
>>719962365Turning in air while divekicking with a controller d-pad doesn't work, use the stick.
>>719962674I like that, it makes the game longer. I hate short games.
>>719962704but this is a zoomer game and there's very clearly more than two projectiles on the screen? is this a bot?
>>719962667how the fuck did you get this far without being able to jump or dash out of attacks?
>>719962636The runback is significantly easier if you start from the Blasted Steps station, just so you know.
>>719962745Yeah, 4chan is just a globalist honey pot.
>>719962653No fuck you, if you're gonna charge me to take a shit then you better provide me some fucking toilet paper.Beads are a fucking scam.
>>719962765HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>>719962779>Zoomer game>made by millennials>with clear millennial influenceEat shit nigger, go play your nigger simulator , failure of a generation.
>>719962756No, you just have shit standards. Beastfly still took way too many hits for such a basic, boring design, even with all my needlebombs hitting a ton
>>719962619yes but it also gives you an extra silk heart while you have it equipped.
>>719962636that map looks like a weird sex pose
>>719962839Do you not realize you're talking to a fellow shitposter or is this just part of your act?
>>719962839Games should be 30 hours long bare minimum. I won't waste my time on anything shorter. 30 is already pushing into, "Not worth my time," territory.
>>719962798See, you've never even fucked a woman. Just uneducated poltarded trash.
>>719962674The big guys drop 5 eachThe flying bats drop 1Git gud nigger
Choral and underworks no shortcuts to nearby zones with bus bugsno bus bugGonna have to look up a map tomorrow because this is stupid
Where do I go next? Shellwod? I couldn't jump on the flowers before so I left (where the pin is).I can't find any other place to continue apart from the leftmost place on the map named wormsomething which I imagine is lategame. I've done the right part of Greymoor already, took the screenshot before.
>>719962667Jesus Christ, and I've been bitching about the difficulty. You know you can dash to dodge, right?
>>719962636Who is this asshole? And Last Judge wasn't hard, you have to have brain damage to consider that hard, just run full speed and nothing will hit you.
damn reaching the citadel gives me the same feeling as getting to anor londo for the first time>when the music kicks in and all the lil pygmy clergy come outKINO
>get 6th mask but it is irrelevant because everything does 2 dmg at leastEbin truly ebin
Halp mid act 1 Where the fuck is the apostate key. Should I just leave the slab after the 2 keys and getting my shit back and find it elsewhere? Or try freezing my bugballs off outside. I don't have the ability to grab those rings on strings I keep seeing around.
>>719962960same
>>719962913>>719962910>>719962839What's with the newfag trannyspacing? Dumbfuck phoneposter zoomtards
>>719962414>super easy but longSure is. btw this balding 40 years old streamer beat it in 1 minute doing nothing but basic attacking with the base cresthe also took 2 tries total to beat widow
>>719962902Ad hominin, classic. Thanks for proving I'm right since you have no substantive argument.
>>719960629Legitimately kill yourself or go back tò reddit you stupid nigger no idea why you fucking retards think people should care about what reddit says
>>719962887I too like to spread my arms out while fucking my dog.
>>719962913you can literally already see the station in choral from the map outline you get when you buy the mapuse your eyes
>>719962493>>719962902Melting troon.
>that fucking Bellhart OSTActually a masterpiece
>>719962910Who gives a shit how many of them they drop. It's still 5 minutes of your time chasing around and fighting the same tired old enemies.
is the wormway the worst thing to spend your simple key on? don't think you need the key at all there if you just go through another entrance.
>>719962301I paid for it and didn't get jack shit, how long do I have to wait
>>719960629It's about the journey not the destination.
trapped in The SlabWhere the fuck do I go?Only key I've found is Key of Indolent
>>719963031Anon, half the stations aren't in domes, I checked. And I wasn't about to go exploring blindly after already spending 2 hours.
>>719962937Yup it's shellwoodTime to learn how to pogo
blasted steps is rough. i'm going somewhere else
>pogo up these flowers that disappear when you hit them>SUPRISE, ONE OF THEM IS AN ENEMYAhahaha
>>719963071Yeah, pissed off I wasted one of them. I don't know if I should free that green guy in Sinner's Road or open that door back in the lava place.
>>719962956>Who is this asshole?Raging Conchfly. Tiny fucking arena, fuckhuge projectile that hits you for 2, spawns mobs because of fucking courseThere are just some fights that Team Cherry decided to simply make unfun. For every Last Judge and Lace there's like 5 Raging Conflies and Beastfly like bosses.
best rosary farm in act 2? there's a metric ton of shit I wanna buy
>>719962995Gross, you watch streamers? Seems like you didnt beat the game if you needed pros to guide you.
>>719963036You're trying way too hard to astroturf your narrative. Doubling down hasn't worked out during the election why bother tripling down on being an obnoxious waste of bandwidth.
>high hall room>dude throw a bunch of enemies in there and then put a clusterfuck at the end so they have to repeat another 5 minutes lolgreat design
I love sherma
>>719963116check the map, if you haven't found it it's in the bench room
>>719962732>>719962782>>719962949I still don't get it
i hate black people and zoomers
So what tools do fire/seared damage and skewered? None of the throwing pines do Skewered so I think it could be a drill
>>719962995Moon is a kinda cracked gamer, but yes, this is an easy fight, I don't know how people are playing to consider a normally 90 seconds fight "long", yesterday, someone complained cogworkers took 10 minutes, I can probably beat it faster doing literally one damage a hit.
>>719962390For once I have to agree with the angry dudeSilksong has plenty of good fights but even the best fight is just a regular Nine Sols fightThat game has such good encounters
>>719962997But Im the one whos right, you are an uneducated genetic deadend. Why dont you go back to pol, I got games to play fag.
Forebrothers have a ungodly run back
>>719962173>>719963105I'd at least like it if they put a letter or something there so I could read Zanzibug... Forgive me... like when I could smash corpses with the dream nail in HK and get ...I hope Zanzibug... forgave me... and some soul from them.
>>719963232There's nothing in the bench room aside from the thief. What am I missing?
>>719963324secret wall
>>719963036Why are genetic deadends so obsessed with other genetic deadends with axe wounds?
>>719963239You're either trolling or you cheated to get here, you can possibly be this bad and got to fucking here.
>>719963189>the last copeYikes. I watch them for entertainment after I'm done with the same content, but I genuinely can't find one that took longer than 10 attempts at Widow. But apparently, Widow is a super hard boss in the level of absolute radiance, kek. Also "SUPER LONG" phases, that doesn't take 5 minutes to beat even for woman.
>>719963232>>719963324>>719963348Oh and I have the map btw, I can't find the next key to progress. I've checked every direction and they all appear to be blocked. Where's the next key??
>>719963294I love seeing you retards say this before even reaching act 2.
Mist area boss spoilerspost yfw RB to parry
>can't even touch the last judge after 10 tries>ok i'll go to sinner's road>flying enemies come in pairs kiting away from you>get hit by sword flyer into bolo flyer>bolo flyer throws spike bolo>bolo bounces off other guy without doing damage>hits me on the way down>stays on the ground>knocked into other bolo by first bolo>constantly getting wombo combo'd by 2 trash mobsshould i just kill myself
>>719962219Isnt that where you get the needle pull? you're supposed to use that
>>719963239You improved by 17 seconds.You improved.There you go.
>>719963302>I got games to play fag.Maybe stop replying and actually play them then instead of continuing to display your ignorance?
>>719962884oh shit I see it now, not bad, thanks
>first time i lose rosaries is in hunter's march because of all the retarded trapsvery funny
>benches are more scarce and cost beads to use>enemies are faster and hit harder more than half the time >platforming is more challenging with everything having to be calculated by 45 degree angles>several bosses already having harder runbacks than the bosses themselves Love to see this game be the great brownoid filter of our time.
>>719963393The only other bosses I've had trouble with was Last Judge and those two bullflies.>>719963438That was my 48th attempt.
How we feeling about Multibinder bros? I think it might be good for exploration but bad for bosses.
>>719963318>He missed the shortcutIt's in the room below the yellow marker
>>719963418fuck forgot pic
>>719963318anon...
This retarded game is like Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne had a baby they forgot to abortWhat the FUCK is wrong with australians?
>>719963396the right door under the bench room requires indolent key
oh boy time to flood my pussy with maggots just to use the bench here
>>719963239there's no way to possibly react to her attacks
I LOVE EATING SHIT PLEASE SHIT ON ME MORE DEVS
>>719963171I've been using the choral chambers fast travel. It's in the bottom right of the area, bench + the other fast travel. I just go out left, kill the two guys and then hit the bench. It's fast enough for me but maybe there's something better.
What does buying a drink in the Greymoor inn even do? I tried it once but didn't unlock a rape scene.
>>719963440>ignoranceKek, except Im completely right about you. Will do though champ!
Anything happens if i skip last judge and get into the citadel from the backdoor through the mist?
I watched a guy beat this room while eating, which has 10000 fucking enemies and took forever, and as far as I can tell there wasn't even a reward afterwards, just one of the three melodies you need to collect. Jesus christ.
>>719963239i don't trust you niggers after this. my god
>>719963545I loved this area, I thought it was really cool.
This is the real skill check
>>719963563fills your soul
>>719963531Yeah I went in there and there's nothing there. I went all the way around the outside through the platforming area too and only got beads. Where's the next damn key?
>>719963563You get some wholesome loredumps from the innkeeper.
>>719963548I've found out that jumping away from her works most of the time.
>>719963597I also thought it was really cool when the roaches pin you to the ground and rape you for double damage
>>719963613>no tits>no asszzz
>>719963574>I'm right because... I JUST AM OKAY!?Sure anon, sure.
>>719963498it's great for some bosses, depends on who you're fighting.
>>719963604THERE'S A FUCKING BENCH IN THE SAME ROOMFUCK PHARLOOM AND EVERY BUGGER IN IT, I WILL DROWN IT IN SAWBLADES
>>719963581I just complained about this room, it's absolute garbage. >>719963209
>>719963394>Watches EcelebsGrim
>>719963581I was actually stuck here for over an hour because I was tilted out of my mind. And yes, the only reward is progressing the main story. Nothing else. Literally 8 waves of fucking garbage thrown at you with those 2 fucking sacks of shit at the end. Absolute dogshit arena.
>>719963558This but unironically if you can't handle the scat stay out of the kitchen
>>719961639Silkhearts specifically encourage you to spend silk rather than sit on it. Free silk at 0 means less hits needed for your next skill or heal. Your basic silkspear does the same damage as 3 hits at a huge range and once you get that first heart you only need to land 3 normal hits before shooting off another one. The traps are also a huge help and the game now hands out beads you specifically can't lose until you pull them off the string. Use some of those to buy a trap because they shit damage too. Silk and shells are infinitely renewable resources so spend them all the time.
>>719963653off model is gross anon
>>719963614did you get your stuff back when you went over the roof?
>>719963545>flood my pussy with maggotsBeen a long time since I thought about maggot girl.
fuck beastfly
>>719963427yeah. you're bad at games.
>>719963581This is a horrific mandatory challenge room, I don't know what they were thinking. easily 5 minutes for a win. It's colosseum of fools tier of endurance test, except colosseum is end game content and optional.
>>719963487Silksong probably has the worst progression I’ve seen in a metroidvania. It makes axiom verge 2 look like it was well thought out
>>719963717wrong, I jacked off to Lace with a small boycock yesterday
straight pin, long pin, or silkshot?
>>719961294>beat her on my 4th try>she keels over and the big flash happens>"nice">go to grab my water bottle>sudden big explosion rapes my character and kills me when i wasn't looking>mfwother than that it wasn't too bad>>719961951>split second??? i thought the moveset was fairly easy to dodge. like when she throws the flail, i found myself dashing backwards by accident but still having time to dash forward before it lands to get a few hits in>>719955992lol the people making constant threads about it are just third wurlders farming for (you)s, us chads here are ACTUALLY PLAYING A VIDEO GAME INSTEAD
Attempt #64>>719963598Did that one first try, quite easy actually.
>>719963135kek wait until you find out about the boss runback for the hardest boss in the game(so far)
>>719963801gross
>>719963256seared - grenadeskewered - needle spear from the early game
>>719963581Certainly one of the harder mandatory challenges out there, I just recommend bringing spike trap tools, as usual.
>>719963498Getting heals off was surprisingly easy during bossfights, especially since you can do it midair + get a shield while healing for extra safety. Made the bosses a breeze.
>>719963794Huh?
>>719963130I'll give it a try.
>>719963812>attempt 64>still isn't jumping after getting parriedIf you just repeat the same mistakes for 65 tries, You aren't beating it unless you get super lucky, you know.
Reaper Crest is pretty good but the up attack is kinda trash.
>act 3 is a single arealmao
>>719963875What do you recommend for retards like me who just use the nail? I heard pogo over their heads or beast crest can make it easier, maybe parry can also destroy them?
>>719963939>>still isn't jumping after getting parriedI don't do that because if she uses her other parry I get hit.I haven't figured out a way to know which parry she'll use yet.
>game is 10 hours long >unbalanced mess>insanely linear and railroaded And this was supposed to beat E33?
For some reason I kept getting clipped by Moorwing's sawblade.It ALWAYS got me on the upswing.It seems to be my biggest issue in this game is making the same consistent mistake.
>>719963961Where do you think the DLC is going to go?
I somehow failed to follow the way to the wall jump after killing that one boss and ran around every other area accomplishing nothing for hours
>>719964029you just described e33
>>719963812>Attempt #64Are you retarded btw?
I hear Sherma in my sleep
>>719957265Is this poor bait or genuine retardation?
>>719963997Beast crest gives you drain on hit for like 8ish seconds when using the healing spell, which works well if you're trying to unga bunga mash through enemies, you can try it.
>>719964058Silksong; Hallownest Rises
Does the weavenest in the wormways have a map? It's bugging me out that I can't find it
>five hours in and still haven’t found a single use for the shell shards yetWTF do I do with these things??? I’ve had it maxed out forever now
>>719964029You haven't played it.
>>719964101SEA doesn't go to sleep for another 3ish hours
>bug silk AI thingWHAT THE FUCK IS THIS FUCKING GAME'S LORE LMAOWHY DID THE PALE KING NOT HAVE ANY OF THIS SHIT
>17 hours in>only at choral chambershmmmmy first time playing any sidescroller though
>>719963369>>719963191>pointing out reality>screams about muh /pol/ boogeymanOkay troons.
>>719964149They're for your tools.You use tools and the shards replenish them at a bench.
>>719963502>>719963514I didn't look at those photos but thanks for letting me know there was a shortcut, found it.
>>719960993Bad game design.
I am genuinely surprised there is no lgbbq shit in this gameEspecially with so many NPCs youd think one of them would be one
>>719964058
>>719964240There is one
Guys... defeat the Bone Tyrant in the Marrows, don't forget it. Trust me.:(
games mid I dropped it
Has anyone finished the game? Does anyone know if it plops you on a bench after like in the first game?
>>719964171>my first time playing any sidescroller thoughshameful zoomer
>>719964285You, The Player.
>>719964171You’re playing the game normally. Don’t worry about it
>>719964181Your falseflag is painfully obvious.
Attempt #71>>719964090You're looking at the skills of an average Gamer™.>>719964295Defeating that one beforehand doesn't prevent what happens, sadly.
>>719964295Why'd he do it?
>sister splinter LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO you faggots were crying about this boss? Literally just first tried it. Just use your fucking R2 button bros it ain't that hard. Can't believe I'm sharing a board with gigashitters. Fucking hope to god team cherry doesn't listen to the whining online and nerf parts of the game.
>>719964202O I C. I haven’t gotten any tools yet so I guess I’ll keep playan
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>Choral Chambers>BellhartMy favorite tracks in the game. You, /v/?
>>719964149your L1+UP/DOWN skill, enjoy the BB blood vial farming against bosses.
>>719964383>he thinks he's donelollmao
>>719964295you can kill it before it does THAT????FUCKI hope you atleast told everyone what his name was
I don't get the appeal of this game. Looks like just a generic indie platformer with an art style that is too clean and generic.
>>719964364Why are people crying about pushback? it looks like the game has a ton of pushback
>>719964372Willow, Last Judge, Moorwing, and Sister Splinter were what convinced that people are just fucking bad at video games.I can AT LEAST understand Beastfly and the runback for Last Judge but this shit is just retarded.
>>719964389It's all generic garbage. It can't compete with Alicia
>>719964426How many are there? I lost interest after the first one. Should I do the rest? I'm not interested in money, but if he gives tools or something, I will consider going back.
>>719964364You really feel like you just have EXTREMELY slow reactions, I don't know what to say, what makes you do the upward attack in 0:45? what is going in your brain?Try being more aggressive, I assure you things will start feeling better once you go more aggressive.
Can someone explain how this game suddenly got so popular? I dont know anything about it.
>Nuu is a girlthe fuck???
>>719964456I killed it and then it still did that
>>719964549I'm 46.
>make it to the top of Bilewater>bench just fucking falls through the floor and drops in a maggot puddleWhoever decided to do that there after the fucking effort it takes to get there in the first is a fucking NIGGER
>>719954003Based Bushchad
will we break 600k?
>>719964478Please try a little bit at least
>>719964513Alicia?
Get fucked retard. Swapping to Hunter actually helped a lot in this fight. If you can slap back his projectile it has a chance at hitting him and dealing damage, and the downwards pogo is fast enough that it reliably hits him when he charges horizontally.
>>719964171Don't let anyone gaslight you, the game is 100 hours long. The people complaining are trying to take shortcuts and exploit HK nail crutching and you can't do that in Silksong.You're doing fine.
>>719964478i thought that same anoni dont play metroidvanias and didnt play the first gamei only installed it cos its free on gamepass and everyone alleges the first one is a le 10/10 masterpieceits surprisingly very fun and feels like a souls game in 2d
>>719964565Looks to be another shilling campaign. The last couple of years have really been bad on /v/. Paid shills everywhere shitting up the board.
>>719964547There's one more formal challenge, then you can play forever, with you gaining more beads the higher you score.>>719964549>what makes you do the upward attack in 0:45?That was a mis-input. I was trying to attack sideways, but accidentally pressed the up button.
>>719964597 and the internet is serious business and i'm a dog
>>719964598You will need to get to the top and way farther each time you want to attempt one of the most cancerous boss in existence. 3 hours out of my 20 hours on this game were spent in that zone.
I killed an enemy trying to catch me in a cage. Is this like Bloodborne/Elden Ring where if he captures you, you get transported to a new area?
>>719964678But it has a ton of players doesnt it? Good for 2D sidescroller renaissance I guess.
>>719964485Game was laughably easy so far, and I am at 2nd Lace, it just has Dark Souls 2 runbacks, the bosses themselves aren't hard, Moorwing has 3 fucking attacks, Last Judge has 4, Willow has 2, Sister Splinter has 3, how the fuck can you not memorize 3 attacks?
>>719964643>anything but wandererlol, lmao
>>719963782>colosseum of foolsplease no I still have PTSD
>>719964478The appeal of Hollow Knight isn’t that it was best in class in something (combat, exploration, level design, atmosphere, etc…), but that it was generally great at everything. The game had basically zero flaws and everything about it just worked.Silksong is more uneven. It might not be the best metroidvania combat but it’s damn close. On the other hand exploration is noticeably worse in every way compared to the original.
How'd you climb the scales in the citadel gate?They are too fr*ggin high to reach
>>719964709That anon wasn't me, I'm 27.
>>719964743Yes, you missed out on this.
Do I understand this quest right? I have to kill bugs with different kinds of tool?
phewthe secret really is to just stack them
>>719964565>>719964678Hollow Knight was super popularSS has been hyped and anticipated for yearsThis isn't fucking rocket science
Got the dash, now the game can begin
>make game but kinda challenging sometimes >make next game but everything is buttfucking hard now even just breathing is harder and also we fucked your mom and stole your entire life’s inheritance gitgud lolWhy is this so common nowadays?
Ok I'm gonna get purposefully spoiled on this because this area is just mega aidsWhat is up there in the part that I'm missing? I've read it's a boss but does it unlock anything important?
>Sinner's roadshould I just head back to the Citadel?
>>719964872>those blacks>that contrastlost technology
>>719964790>The game had basically zero flaws and everything about it just worked.Well no because Silksong already highlighted a big flaw I personally had with HK. A ton of the overworld in HK was just so completely nonthreatening and boring to traverse.And a huge amount of its bosses were complete filler. Silksong is the same but a ton of its boss design, besides Beastfly lmao, are leagues better than HK's.
Is this vidyas first magma spike? I haven't seen them before
>>719964879Tryhard devs who don’t pay for playtesting
>>719964879>Sequel is for people who actually played and mastered the first game instead of diluting it for a new audience Monster Hunter Wilds is down the hall and to the left
>>719964879It's been like 5 years since I played HK and I don't remember it being much easier than SS?
>>719964879Because not a single game is actually like the later. Many people are breezing through silksong. You only don't do it if you are both generally bad at the game AND refuses to use tools.
How do I into Sister Spliner
>>719964372>>719964485hunter's march is another one aswell lol, I really wonder what games these people are playing to be struggling with this stuff lol, like im a shitter at most games but i didn't find this as difficult as people made it out to be
>>719964990Just skill the adds with your silk skill, it’s very easy
>>719964990the AoE silk spell clears mobs and thorns
>>719964485Genuinely boggles my mind. I'm not far into the game obviously but moorwing or sister were laughably easy for how hard people whine about them online. I'm sure there's some genuinely challenging bosses in this game somewhere but damn.
>>719964938yes it is a gauntlet + bossyes there's something important after itthere's a bench closer to the fightit's one of the harder encounters in the whole game
>>719964981HK is way easier in just its boss design. Even late game bosses generally don’t hit for two masks like early game bosses in SS do
>>719964985>Many people are breezing through silksongAct 1 of Silksong*
>>719965065>There's a bench closer to the fightWhere?
>>719965019It's funny, I'm the person in my friend group who spends the most time playing 2D action games so I'm just cruising and having a great time while the rest of the fellas are seething about the diagonal kick
>Garmand and Zaza still hanging around offering to help me fightCan I take him to Last Judge???
>>719965092ALL acts of silksong. In fact, most complaints are about act 1 bosses, and the people who are enjoying the game enough to be in act 2 are usually the ones not having any issues.
THE BEAST CREST IS GOOD OKAY?STOP FUCKING SAYING ITS BAD
>>719965090Making enemies zoom around at the speed of light and do two masks damage on simple contact is fucking retarded.
>>719964767>gimping yourself by not using hunter for the focus mechanicit does like 2x damage when you have it.
>>719965090>Even late game bosses generally don’t hit for two masks like early game bosses in SS doOh ok, I still haven't had much trouble with the bosses in SSI think my record is 12 attempts for a boss at this point?
>>719964990Reaper crest and silk storm mollywhop the entire fight.I genuinely do not understand what people mean when they say this game is harder than hollow knight, sister splinter has been the easiest boss by a mile so far
>>719964147The only nest with a map is Altus. I assume at some point they were all gonna because the map s positioned like that but most of the other nests are smaller anyway.
any map with the silver bells locations?
>>719964990>She raises hand>You slightly move in the opposite direction and up attackWow, must be Consort Radahn of hard, do you people just play games where you mash up buttons and stuff happens on the screen or something?
>>719964879Because devs feel the need to one up themselves, and the gameplay feedback on sequels during development is more likely to come from people very good at the game than for first entries. Elden Ring had a similar issue, it's laughable how much more difficult it is compared to Dark Souls. Sekiro got away with its high difficulty because the gameplay systems were new. Silksong does play a bit differently, but it's still close enough to Hollow Knight that it simply feels like a far more punishing version for no reason at all.
>>719965156>I think my record is 12 attempts for a boss at this point?lol wait until you get into act 2. 97 tries on one boss so far
>>719964485I beat P5 thrice in HK. I struggled with Moorwing. The 3rd phase saw attacks were too spastic, and whenever I'd try to pogo the saws the boss would always swoop in.
>>719965182pretty sure they spawn randomly, I watched a streamer find them in a different spots than I did, I also got 6 in my first sweep of both tunnels, he only had 4 or 5
>>719965173>>719964147Can I get into that weavenest before citadel? asking for a friend, gap seems too big
>>719960747Use more dashes
>>719965182They don't have fixed locations. They randomly spawn when you enter the area.
>>719965136There are only six hard bosses in the game: that fucking fly, Moorwing, Last Judge, that fucking fly AGAIN, the double trouble citadel gauntlet and Lace 2: electric boogaloo.
>>71996515612 attempts is a shit ton wtf
>>719965173makes sense. once I updated the map, it showed the weavenest as part of the wormways
I DONT CARE IF ITS A SKILL ISSUE INCREASE THE HITBOX ON THIS THING HOLY SHIT
>>719964879Basically SoTE in a nutshell
>>719965213>that it simply feels like a far more punishing versionwhat are you faggots talking about? are we playing the same video game? it's hollow knight 2. exactly what I expected from it. did you even play the first game?
>>719964565>Can someone explain how this game suddenly got so popular?First game was a huge hit surprise and then the sequel became a meme because it's been delayed for half a decade.
>finish quest>forget where fuckwit NPC isHuntress anyone?
>>719965274In his defense, games hard
>>71996527412 attempts when each attempt is like 2 minutes at best is not a shitton at all.
>>719965090Hollow knight is balanced differently, hit 3 times, and you have enough to heal for one heart, in Silksong it's feast or famine, hit 8 times for a heal of 3 hearts, so in balance they have to make you take double damage to compensate for your high heal rate (it's actually shit, I want the knight's heal, I can play better with that)
>Finally upgraded the nail again (Nail +2)Oh yeah, it's gaming time.
>>719965294Equip the wanderer crest
>>719965019The hardest part about hunters march was learning to use the diagonal pogo thats literally it. It blew my mind when I got to the end and realized that was the only reason everyone was saying DONT GO THERE UNTIL YOURE 10 HOURS INTO THE GAME
i fucking hate beads.>have a bunch of beads>deep into an area and don't feel like backtracking>end up losing beadsi don't have a big issue with difficulty yet, but having to backtrack to the stores scattered across the map is fucking aggravating. i'm mad!>>719964879use tools. i'm only like 6 areas in and resource management isn't a problem yet. you can really spam your way through fights.
why did they allow the enemies to stunlock you into a clash where they can still immediately hit and deal damage to you anyway with no recourse. just damage me immediately then faggot
I finally entered the ant area but I already went up to Greymoor and met Shakra there. Did I fuck up or will she also appear here to get the map?
>spend money>can't even use chair because this shit isn't working?????????
Where do you enter Sinners Road? I've gotten to act 2 and I've never come across it
>>719965274Not everyone has 50k hours of video games on his belt, anon.
>>719965342It also ONLY rewards high skilled players and gives nothing to players who can’t no hit a boss. It’s like the devs decided to make a game for the AGDQ sweat lords exclusively
>>719965380>i don't have a big issue with difficulty yet, but having to backtrack to the stores scattered across the map is fucking aggravating. i'm mad!I personally tie up all my beads given the opportunity then just go back to places when I find a bellbeast station.
>>719965308It's significantly worse. The combat feels better for me (at least with reaper crest compared to base knight) and I like how fast it is, but the exploration & metroidvania aspects are significantly worse.
>>719965424Top left.Have fun! :^)
As I keep playing I find myself asking one question... Where the fuck are all the boss battles? Like, the first area of HK had 3 boss battles in it from the get go (Gross Mother, Mawlek, False Knight). Compared to that, boss fights in SS seem like they are practically absent and I'm not sure I like that.
>>719964990jump, up, attackrepeat until kill
>>719964979>We wanted to make a perfect jumping-on point for new players. We‘re trying to be really, really mindful that we want this to be a game that new people can come into, and experience as their first Hollow Knight game — that it sits alongside the original game, and the difficulty also sits alongside the game in that way.From the dev's own words
>>719965463>but the exploration & metroidvania aspects are significantly worse.they're exactly the same
>>719965536>dodging towards the punch just go away from the punch and never stop hitting the tranny until he dies
>>719965424Climb the wall on the left up to the top, there is a breakable wall, then parkour all the way down to free the bench.
You can tell Pharloom is in late stage capitalism.
>>719965520>Gross Mother, Mawlek, False KnightMoss Mother.Bell Beast.Mawlek is a skip boss.
>>719965520Bosses are just more spread out. There’s more maps and areas, hell it seemed to even pull a Bloodborne and put like half the bosses in secret optional areas
>>719965503Thanks>Have Fun! :^)I was able to cheese the bitch because I'm here extremely late and already have every single mobile upgrade (double jump/that shit that clings to walls etc)
does this take place before or after hollow knight?
>>719965536This is a really good example of this game. It's crazy how badly this guy played the fight and he still beat it. This is the "EXTREME DIFFICULTY" that people are complaining about in this thread. This.
The combat is incredible (not better than Nine Sols)The bosses are incredible (except beastly)The platforming is incredibleThe exploration is incredibleThe difficulty is incredibleThe upgrades and the charm system are incredibleEverything about this game is incredible
>>719965536I didn't even know she has that billion vines attack? Did I beat her too fast?
>>719965676Sister Splinter is an easy fight, there's way harder post-Citadel
>>719965536Finally some useful advice
>>719965680Last judge runback
>>719961796you can tell by the sprite of the blade behind the health, retard
>>719965762>there's way harder battles post citadel!!!Okay, which one? has it even been mentioned in this thread at all? I know there are a few good secret fights, but MOST of the complaining is coming from shit like moorwing, beastfly, and sister splinter.
>>719965796The runback to Raging Drillbug is miles MILES worse
>>719965439I have the same problem with this game.It feels dishonest to market this game as a sequel when it's nothing like Hollow Knight.
So has anyone found some really fucky secrets with the Needolin yet?My favorite part about the Dream Nail was how it just unpeeled another layer to the world.
>>719962667Why aren't you dashing?
>>719965796>Sprint at full speed>Fast enough to pass before the first annoying fly appears>Few wall jumps>Pogo bell>Float to another bell bug misses you>Wall jump>Pogo bell>Wall jump>Float>You're in the arenaMust be very hard.
>>719965680I also enjoyed my korean skinnerbox simulator and it's various fetch quests.
How the fuck are you supposed to fight these fuckers?
>>719965831Lace 2.0> shit like moorwing, beastfly, and sister splinter.all of those are early-game fights from Act 1
>>719966003Slash then diagonal dash.Repeat this eight times.Fun!
>>719962636What boss is that
I feel like most people who complain about bad runbacks have either missed a shortcut or are just terrible at the game.
>>719965831People are getting filtered by basic enemies, reddit unironically calls the mandatory fight rooms boss fights.
>first fragment after 10 hours
>>719966003
Sinner's road door won't open :(Tried coming from bottom side and it's too highAny advice?
>>719966034Are you the one guy getting filtered by Lace 2? I'm sorry, but I really doubt most people are going to take longer than like 10 tries on her. I really recommend you using more ranged tools on her if you really are on 70+ attempts, as a starting point.
>the entire tyrant and funeral sequence at bone bottom>everything about bellhart>getting kidnapped to prison>using the key to get to wormways and climbing up to shellwood>The Mist>Phantom into Act 2This game is so fucking sovlful its unreal
>>719966098t. hasn't reached act 2
Reading these threads really solidifies the fact that your average /v/ poster is absolute dogshit at videogames
>>719959516
>>719966236Name one
>>719966152>Are you the one guy getting filtered by Lace 2?No, that's me.>I really doubt most people are going to take longer than like 10 tries on herThen you vastly overestimate the skills of the average player. Just like Team Cherry, it seems.>using more ranged toolsAnd become used to them only to run out 20 attempts in, forcing me to grind for them? No thanks.
>>719966269Really does. No wonder we are the gacha and nintendo central nowadays. Seems like Silksong will be an easy way to tell apart a shitter from someone with a working brain, thanks to it's popularity and meme status.
>>719966116Holy explorelet
>>719966342There have been multiple shown in this very thread.>>719966269>the average person is bad at a video games designed for tryhardsWho woulda thunked it?
>>719966357>And become used to them only to run out 20 attempts in, forcing me to grind for them? No thanks.Are you going to save your shards for Silksong 2, bro? I'll take a guess that you are not only capped on it, but also have a bunch of saved up shards in your inventory, if that's how you're playing the game.
>>719966269Honestly I feel like HK is more cheap with it's difficulty cause all the difficulty and cheap bullshit of Silksong is invalidated by how mobile Hornet is compared to the Knight's slow clunky ass.
>>719966152Does no one of you fuckers have Parry? How do you keep getting filtered by bosses who have 5 attacks?
>There's another one of these and it's just as bad
>>719966449I don't think you understand the problem.Even if I use tools, I will have to fight this boss many times.Eventually I will run out of shards. Then I either fight the boss without tools, forcing me to relearn all the muscle memory or I go farm for shards for the next hour.
>>719966269This guy >>719966364 puts it well, people have brain damage from never using their brains, now a game that requires you to think a second ahead is considered hard.
>>719966440>designed for tryhardsI consider myself fairly casual and Silksong has been fairly easy for the past 15 hours
So that it, I ran out of tool usage while fighting Phantom, what do I do now? Play without tool or waste an hour getting out of there and back again to gather more tool shit?
>>719966601>the past 15 hoursSounds like you're almost at the end of the prologue. Have fun fighting Last Judge, as she's the first real filter.
>>719966546Is this guy the fucking meme boss for this game or are people seriously having trouble with him?
>>719966357Dash more, bounce on her more often.
AAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEI LOST FUCKING 75 ROSARIES TO THE THROWING GAME WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
>game doesn't respect the player's time >artificial difficulty by bloated enemy hp pool and bloated attack values >difficult for the sake of difficulty without any tangible reward, only so the player wastes his time>after a few fights the game starts feeling more like a chore than a real game>very short game, only made feel "longer" by the insane levels of backtracking you have to dopeople waited 8 years for this uh?
>>719966357>And become used to them only to run out 20 attempts in, forcing me to grind for them? No thanks.I had your mindset but I have some advice for you>when you don't have anything useful to buy, warp bellhart and grab some boneshard bundles50 rosaries = 80 boneshards and you get a lot of rosaries later on>mix in flea brew30 attempts is a lot, the refill is just 30 rosaries, doesn't cost you any shards>if an attempt is going bad don't bother with tools, only use tools for bonus damage on later boss phasesAccept you're going to practice a bitI use tools a lot and I have 500/500 shards + 14 bundles
>>719966567No, I understand you problem very well and literally just described why it makes no sense.You are already expecting to fail for so many tries that you would run out of resources, as a base expectation, at this point, you might as well be wishing you will keep on losing, just to prove a point. The fight got to your head entirely, take a breather and start over.
>>719966653>Have fun fighting Last JudgeI just got to her, and I have her moveset about downJust got a little too drunk while fighting her and going to try again tomorrow
>>719966440Yes, and most of them have missed a shortcut (like >>719963318 or >>719962636 did)
How do I trigger the crtical on wanderer crest?
>>719966706Imagine having aim THIS bad. Good lord.
Fren :)
>>719954073in what fucking world? I have nearly 10 hours and I'm still in act one
>>719966668People are unironically getting filtered by it, and it's not even hard, it's just a bug that charges at you, and sometimes does vertical attacks, it does summon other enemies though to be annoying.>>719966653Last judge is a woman?
>>719966706>only 75I spent like 300 to get 210 necklace.
>>719966269>average /v/ posterjudging by the catalog most days, i think the people here who actually seek out and play games are in the minority lol
>>719966828>Last judge is a woman?Her voice is feminine.t. audio autist
>>719966828>Last judge is a woman?Yes, the bestiary tells youi
>>719966830>210 necklaceTHAT'S THE REWARD?IT'S JUST ROSARIES???
>>719966706i spend 100 and i only had 100...but i won at the last try :)
>>719966871>Her voice is feminine.No joke, I don't remember the voice, when I focus enough, I don't hear anything.
>>719964372Just defeated widow in 4 tries or som absolute kino fun boss but again, not very difficult. I hope this fast pace duel like boss design keeps appearing more as I go on, shit was very fun
>>719966668His difficulty is gated entirely by rng so every death feels unfair. He summons elites during his spergout? Good job you're fucked unless you land the rng and he slams the elites to death. You mistime a jump and he clips you while moving one pixel below the standard? Good job you lost half your hp bar. You get hit by his ramming attack while on the ground and near a wall? Good job you're now stunlocked to death regardless of his next move.
Do enemies stop being damage spunges at any point? I just beat Moorwing or whatever his name is, and the fucker took like 50+ hits. The enmies all leading up to that were the same, easily 10+. Little shitters all take 4 or more hits too. To be fair I haven't upgraded the nail, but I haven't found where yet.
>>719966973>feels unfairSave up your thread for when he spawn mobsuse your skill to kill the mobs that spawnand just like that, it's no longer unfair :D
>>719966973>His difficulty is gated entirely by rng so every death feels unfair.He has 2 attacks, sirUse your tools
>>719966953Her >LAH-YA-REY-YAgot very annoying very fast.
>>719966897No that's the second reward.
>>719967040I think you should have a needle upgrade by now, and you should be close to getting a second one, the game is a bit stingy with hearts and upgrades.
>>719967040No. Nail upgrades are next to non-existent.
>normalfag streamer game is overhyped and overratedNo shit
>>719966973>I CANNOT CONTROL EVERY VARIABLE IN THIS BOSSFIGHT THEREFORE HE IS UNFAIRif you use the boomerang or the spike traps they can really help against the elites, after that it's just divekicking them once or twice, same for the smaller enemies. relying on the boss to kill them is no good
>>719967152>>719967170The duality of /v/
>>719967170I got 2 so far
>>719966973It's hard to manage but if you focus on taking out the spawns as soon as possible he isn't too bad. It's fairly easy to avoid all damage when he's on his own. You just have to dodge as late as you can so he doesn't course correct into you.
Seriously, what the fuck is this?I guess parrying is suddenly no longer a thing anymore?
>>719966395do i explore the slab first or the core>?
>>719967082It feels unfair not is unfair you illiterate idiots. Use your skill that doesn't kill the elites in one shot yeah sure thing clown how does that fix the fact that how much trouble you're having with him lies entirely on what he summons?>>719967089He also has a summoning attack that he uses throughout a very long fight because you need a thousand attacks to deal damage.
>>719967292>parryingyou completely missed her hitbox and got hit by her attack's wide swing.
>>719967237There are a million paths you can take in the game, you can easily miss the second upgrade I am talking about, and maybe there are others scattered in zones I have never visited yet that other anons did, so who knows?
are steam achievements not accurate? I've definitely opened more bellways than this.
>>719967345The game taught me that hitting an enemy's sword attack make me bounce off it.
>>719967152Wait what? I'm way past him and I haven't gotten a single nail upgrade yet.
>>719967334>it doesn't kill it in exactly one hitpretty sure the right skill doesand if it doesn't, the mob will be literally 1 knife away from death. IT IS ENTIRELY UP TO YOU THAT YOU ARE FAILING.
>>719967334>a very long fightLolEither bait him into killing the big ones orUSE YOUR TOOLSAlternatively use your silk skills
>>719963269It took me 3 tries and I kept tanking his melee attacks like a fucking retard, I imagine anyone paying attention will first/second try it
>>719967237It's great, You can bet the people saying they have no nail upgrade up to the citadel will also be the ones crying about how there's no worthwhile secrets in the game, as well.
>>719962995>someone who plays video games 16/5 is good at video gamesNO WAY!
I DID IT4 FUCKING HOURSFOUR FUCKING HOURSNO BOSS UP UNTIL THIS POINT TOOK ME MORE THAN LIKE 5 ATTEMPTSFUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>719967415>>719967454Christ you actually are illiterate. It's like you're so desperate to get some kind of gotcha off an imaginary strawman that it blinds you to what you're reading.
>>719967517There is oil in act 1?I only found oil in act 2.
>>719955992back to AI thread browne
>>719967619>no argument, just more cryingAs expected. Give us a webm of your latest beastfly attempt so we can both laugh at you and teach you what you are doing wrong.
>>719964295The little pilgrim by the bench doesn't die he goes to the settlement in far fields
>>719967627No, the first upgrade is a freebie when you free the town entrapped in silk, so you can get it as soon as you defeat widow, then there is oil in the citadel, and another oil that requires a very long mission you can't realistically do right now, those are the ones I know about.
>>719963893lmao saved
>>719967619Sir you just told me that he has a summoning attack that makes the fight too hard because the fight takes too long and I responded with advice on how to not make the fight last so long /kill the summonsIf a boss with 2 extremely choreographed attack moves is made too difficult for you because he sometimes summons mobs you normally take 5 seconds to kill, maybe you need to uninstall and play something more your speed?
>>719967619The elites flier is fairly immobile and easy is basically just a big silk farm. The smaller flier can be deleted with silk storm. The spikeyboi can straight up be ignnored and reliably killed by beastyfly's slam but you can smack him for more silk.use literally any other crest except beast to pogo over his charges
>>719967692You're going to have to go back in time then because I beat that shit in 4 tries yesterday.>>719967760Damn you don't even understand what the conversation you were having is. That's fucked up.
>>719967732So >>719967152 was just straight up lying about a second upgrade being near?Because you either spend hours progressing the main story to get oil in a citadel area or you do five different fucking side quests to get another one.
>>719967732So you can't upgrade until you beat Moorwing? wtf are Team Cherry thing with that shit? I'm starting to think they didn't know how to balance anything and just upped the health pool, good devs would have given it less health but more interesting moves/arena, but they're the same guys that made HK so idk
people don't like reaper? It feels way better than the base kit to me
>>719967879>Damn you don't even understand what the conversation you were having is.The conversation I was having is>He has 2 attacks, use your tools>He also has a summoning attack>Either bait him into killing the big ones or>USE YOUR TOOLS>Alternatively use your silk skills>waah waah waah>repeat of what I said before
