How exactly did Prey get beaten by BotW in the game awards? It has way more emergent and fun mechanics than another trend chasing open world game.
>>719955756bigger audience means more votes.
>>719955756Unlike Prey, BOTW didn't steal the name of a beloved classic and got a paradigm-breaking upcoming game cancelled.
>>719955847Nobody outside of /v/ contrarians gives a slightest shit about your mid shooter.
>>719955890The universal consensus about the wrong game being cancelled and the wrong game getting released say otherwise.
>>719955829It's a shame that it's a popularity contest and a marketing scheme instead of an actual show of quality.
>>719955959What fucking consensus retard? 2017 is way more beloved and discussed. There's like two retards on jewtube who said otherwise and everyone called them what they are.
>>719955756Awards aren't about quality but whatever the journalists whovote on them arbitrarily take notice of during any given year or how much they like the package at large. If a game has outstanding art direction (for example) which clearly stands above most of the year's releases in that regard but has otherwise only relatively decent reception it's not going to get recognised for it. In the context of gaming, people actually being invested in awards is a relatively new thing and I really wish we could go back to 'GOTY' just being something you just slapped on the title of a definitive version of your game a year later rather than something people earnestly treat as a worthwhile metricThat said, while I prefer Prey and it was my favorite game of 2017, BOTW is comparably good (though I think TOTK is better than either)
>>719955756>How exactly did Prey get beaten by BotW in the game awards? It has way more emergent and fun mechanics than another trend chasing open world game.no it wasn't.
>>719956327Elaborate.
>>719955847It wasn't Arkane that stole the name, it was Bethesda that forced them to change the name you fucking retard.
>>719955756Awards are not about actual game quality
>>719956036>What fucking consensus retard?The universal consensus. Getting robbed from Cowboy Bebop: The Videogame and instead getting a shitty system shock clone leads to that.
Repostinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yevWFBa_jT4Never forgiveNever forget
>>719956948>bounty hunter vision>open world>cover shootingWoah...
>>719955756It's a bland imsim with 0 new mechanics why are you guys so far up your own ass?
>>719956036>discussedJust because a gang of discord fucks have been making daily threads for the past half a decade, doesn't mean it's widely loved
>>719955847Didn't even take three minutes and 2006tards are already shitting up the thread with their delusional victim narrative.>>719956948>More 7th gen cover shooter slopGood thing this was cancelled.
>>719956857Show me proof then retard.
>>719957082>Everything HAS to reinvent the wheel to be coolRetards like (you) are the reason we get games that try to be good at everything and then end up being "sorta meh" in all categories, such as Cyberpunk 2077. I honestly wouldn't mind if we got more games that are like Deus Ex, Thief, System Shock 2, and Dishonored.
>>719955756Because zelda has a wider audience and people in general are retarded
>>719957082Mimics, gloo cannon, recycler charge, phantom resurection, q-beam, typhon that can turn your own machinery against you,...
>>719957184Make a thread on any internet imageboard and forum asking people's opinions about it.Everyone will lament how a creatively-sterile System Shock clone stole the name of one of the most creative seventh gen games and how Prey 2 could have been an industry watershed moment if it hadn't been killed by said shit System Shock clone.
>>719956857>Getting robbedby Arkane, I presume? Once again, the 2006tard displays clear signs of a perpetual persecution complex.>inb4 we totally don't believe thatThen why are you always in these threads acting like Arkane killed your shitty 7th gen cover FPS? Why don't you complain about it to Bethesda?
>>719957146Look up Prey 2017 literaly anywhere and stop living in a bubble.
>>719957404Bethesda and Arkane are partners in crime. Bethesda wanted to fuck over Human Head and Arkane wanted to use a classic game as a stepping stone for their garbage. Prey 2017 being a commercial failure that got most of Arkane sacked is the natural punishment for their crimes.
>>719956405I thought it was Zenimax
>>719957146>muh DiscordGet with the times anon, nowadays Pajeet shills should be your go-to bogeyman.
>>719957532Arkane's prey wasn't even Prey to begin with, they were doing a game called Typhon.They were forced to change the name.
>>719956857>bebopbaby's first japanese animation thats hard carried by good aesthetics and a banger soundtrack
>>719957368>of one of the most creative seventh gen games and how Prey 2 could have been an industry watershed moment if it hadn't been killed by said shit System Shock clone>https://youtu.be/fAtv9IW0mo0?si=8oKPZ6lk7TcBfHbS0:16
>>719957585You know, it is kinda silly how this entire board swung from blaming the most likely culprits to blaming an entire foreign country.
>>719955959Fucking THIS. 2017 had no novel mechanics. OG was super innovative and the real sequel was going to be as well.
>>719957692Wrong >>719957363
>>719957676jeets are cheaper shills, simple as.
>>719955756Reggie has great mouth game
>>719957692>real sequel was going to be as well.>x-ray detective vision>cover shooting mechanicswow so innovative
>>719957532>Bethesda and Arkane are partners in crime.Once again, proving my point about (you) living in a delusion built upon a persecution complex.>Bethesda wanted to fuck over Human HeadYeah, whatever. Couldn't care less what business Bethesda had with Human Head.>Arkane wanted to use a classic game as a stepping stone for their garbage.Yeah, because there were millions of Prey (2006) fans who were totally going to be retarded enough to believe that the new game by Arkane (a studio known for FPS-RPGs/immersive sims) would be part of the same franchise and buy it because of that.>Prey 2017 being a commercial failure that got most of Arkane sacked is the natural punishment for their crimes.Yeah, but at least it released and got a DLC. Meanwhile Prey 2 is never coming out.
>>719957763Cheaper how? Discord obsessives do it for free.
>>719957945Now you made me want to play Mooncrash again.
>>719958019Crazy how mooncrash is just arkane's next game but good
>>719957363Gloo cannon is like the only original mechanic there. Meanwhile prey 2006 had:Portals before portalGravity shifters (not just zero g)Size manipulationcooler weapon designsbetter storyOh yeah, and it didn't piggyback off a completely unrelated franchise name you fucking homo
>>719958273Those mechanics were mostly visual flair thoughbeit.
>>719957945Does even matter if your game got released when it was shit, a commercial failure and unanimously reviled due to fucking over an actual masterpiece? At the end of the day 2017 is hated while 2 is loved and respected. 2 won even when it never came out.
>>719958093Mooncrash is Redfall?
>>719958375Surely this is ragebait. No one is this obsessed with a 7th gen cover shooter, right?
>>719958375>2 won even when it never came out.Whatever you tell yourself to cope, man. Luckily for you there are plenty of generic open world games with bounty hunting mechanics, Xray vision, and cover shooting.
>>719958334No, they were realtime combat mechanics. Portals, gravity shift, zero g, size manipulation all were done while you were shootin niggas and niggas were shootin at you.
Prey 2006 was like Singularity or Jericho: one of those late 2000 shooters that came and went unnoticed. People pretending that it was Doom or Half Life levels of groundbreaking is the finniest shit ever.
>>719958468Mooncrash is essentially deathloop
>>719958513It's absolutely not ragebait. They REALLY believe that anyone outside their bubble is crying rivers over a generic 7th gen FPS being cancelled.
>>719958542Then tell me how those mechanics affected the game in any way? You can't place portals, the gravity shift was you just walking on specific walls and size manipulation was also scripted. I can place gloo anywhere i want i can recycle anyone and any item i want. There's nothing dynamic about 2006.
>>719958584Singularity is a game that actually deserves some recognition. It churned out a profit but Activision was so greed that they had it memoryholed before subtitles were even added.
>>719958620It kinda looks like star wars bounty hunter for ps2 but 1st person with all the 7th gen gimmicks. Could have been cool but there are games I'm more salty about being cancelled
>>719955756Its a good game but pretty flawed and im mad well never get the actual prey 2 which sounded like absolute kino
>>719958683>how does teleporting across the map affect combatthe gravity shift was a thing you shot that let you actively choose which floor gravity shifted to, pretty active mechanic.Recycling isn't a "cool" mechanic bro. Gloo is somewhat but got boring.
>>719959098gravity shift isn't cool either if we can just dictate what is cool and what isn't
>>719958532The upcomimg James Bond game is pretty much that and you don't see /v/ calling it "groundbreaking" or a "paradigm shift".
>>719956281Learn how to be concise, senpai.Vidya journalists know not to bite the hand that feeds them or they stop getting free 'review copies', sponsers, and swag from publishers/developers. If it's a 'big' website then they can lose advertisers.Everyone answers to someone.
>>719959293We don't dictate, we percieve. And apparently you don't have the gift.
>>719959724nigga who is weyou sound so retarded that it's unbelievable and for that reason I'm out
>>719955756nobody liked that it shared the name of a hyped cancelled sequel
>>719959807>sharedStole, and was the direct responsible for said hyped sequel cancelled.
>>719959801>nigga who is weAll my other 2006>2017 homies ITT that's who
>>719956405Lies. Prey 2 is used on the Arkane design document.
>>719960002Based. 2017 was such an unoriginal piece of shit
>>719955756Assburgers game clearly designed for PCs vs. childish and simplistic game for console peasants with the nintendo boost.
>>719955847Ironically, literally nobody would even know what the fuck Prey (2006) is if it weren't for Prey (2017).
>>719960358Prey 2006 was massive back then, to the point it got a Penny Arcade collaboration. Only massively hyped upcoming games like Fallout 3 got such a thing.
>>719955756Prey is a 7/10 game. babbys first imsim. Its like if you explained what an imsim is to a dev who never played one and doesn't like videogames made an imsim
>>719955847There are many Zeldafags that will tell you BotW isn't a Zelda game though.
>>719960828Broski 2017 is one of the greatest games of all time.
>>719960716It had a lot of marketing put into it, yes, and then it completely failed and was forgotten almost immediately.
>>719955756Because botw is a dramatically better game
>>719961176Woah another empty open world "sandbox" game.
>>719955756It's a mid game made decent by imsim elements. If you are a normie and don't care about "you can solve every encounter 6 gorrilion ways" meme it's really not that good.
>Limited weapons, none particularly good other than the GLOO Cannon. They all have atrocious sound effects >Insulting hacking mini game which pauses the world around you and makes you move a ball throughout a simple maze several times>Juvenile passcode hints. For instance one of them is just the atomic numbers of two chemical elements >Weapon upgrades are linear increases in damage / reload speed / capacity etc. none of them alter the weapons in any interesting way or aesthetically >Boring blob based enemy design. To pad the numbers of types they simply give phantoms different elemental configurations >Have to scan virtually every room when you get the psychoscope to deal with mimics >Most interesting revelations of the story are dealt with in the first hour of the game and nothing beyond that comes close. It's simply a matter of dealing with the typhon after that>Half of the audio logs or notes you find have absolutely nothing to do with what's happening on the station. For instance a great deal of it is dedicated to a D&D roleplaying game >Operators infinitely replenish health, psi and suit integrity so you’re never really under any pressure with managing those resources. Similarly, ammo can simply be created once you find the associated plan and conservation never becomes an issue >Forced to listen to lesbian dinner plans as part of the main story. Female Morgan Yu is also lesbian for no particular reason >Many psi powers come directly from other games like Bioshock or Dishonored>Signifcant levels of backtracking involved from around the 66% mark. You also have to open all of the airlocks for a second time>The Talos I exterior is simply a couple of bodies or enemies spaced widely apart. Everything else of interest out there is dealt with using objective markers
>>719961693>Nightmare continually chases you around the station when you hit the 33% mark. Need to complete a side quest later on just to deal with it >One of the side quests awards you with the ability to drink from any water fountain in the game and instantly regenerate all of your psi, making you virtually indestructible from that point onward>Sneaking system absolutely broken as fuck. Very easy to sneak around or restealth when you screw up. In addition you can upgrade the stealth attack bonus to a ludicrous level and virtually two to three shot every enemy in the game on the highest difficulty >Most other characters in the game may as well not exist. You find them all in a cargo bay and they have limited dialogue>As soon as Dahl arrives the game violently drops in quality and never recovers. While he’s still in control most of your enemy encounters will be against operators
>>719961693>>719961763Don't care bitch. It's fun.
>>719961874kys pathetic shill
>>719955756People are too dumb for this type of game.
>>719955756It was neck and neck considering both have dogshit combat and gay pointless exploration
>>7199620862006 is a linear corridor shooter tho.
>>719963769Abraham Lincoln was shot in Ford theater
>>719955847>a beloved classicYou need more than 12 people for this
>>719961693Now give me a reason why BotW is any better.
>>719961648Imsim is a fake fucking genre. Just call it an fps crafter ffs.
>>719964275>FPS crafterThat's probably the worst alternative name I've ever heard. FPS adventure or FPS RPG are more reasonable suggestions.
>>719964275You don't craft in Deus Ex or the System shock series tho
>>719964496Yes. And imsim is such a stupid genre it also covers things like:American truck simulatorEuropa V universalisBodycamNBA 2k26Nobody knows what the FUCK it means
>>719958593Oh, I see what you mean now.
>>719964850Literally none of these are immersive simulators.
>>719964496DX:MD had a crafting system and it's actually incredibly broken and OP
>>719964275>>719964850Imsim is not a 'genre' retard its just a design philosophy.
>>719965352Im talking about the og and HR.
>>719961693/thread
>>719960828>babbys first imsimThat would be Deus Ex: Human Revolution
>>719964026play the game and find out, faggot.
>>719955847Im sorry but the truth about Prey 2 was exactly what bethesda said.. the leaks looked super mid for being a supposedly finished game. the gameplay looked incredibly stale, enviroment was lifeless and artificial, AI did nothing except stand in place.The game had a cool vibe thats about it
>>719955756The entire latter half was a big pile of fucking shitMaybe that's why
>>719955847>muh beloved classicIt's forgotten by just about everyone but you and the six other people who never stop crying about it.
>>719955847>paradigm-breakingIt was a janky open world cover shooter. In other words - about as generic as you could get in that console generation.
>>719955847>BOTW didn't steal the name of a beloved classic and got a paradigm-breaking upcoming game cancelledI swear this shit must be like 3-4 people on a discord at this point
>>719957242>gay faggot prey 2017 twerker trying to shit on cyberkino 2077aaaaahhahahaha. shut the fuck up, faggot.
>>719960358shut up zoomer>>719960716shut up zoomer
>>719970468>/v/ suddenly defends Cybershit 2077
>Emergent and fun mechanicsCare to elaborate?I remember prey being a bog standard stealth, skill point bore with 3 types of enemies and no combat varietyWhy the fuck are people showering it with praise these days
>>719971171You can mimic into a small object and if you aim right with the phantom blast you can launch yourself across far distances. The gloo cannon allows for a ton of dynamic traversal through the map. You can hypnotize the mind controled humans to blow themselves up and every other human right below the Telepath to create a chain reaction and kill everyone.
>>719970468>Broken Promises: The Game is actually... le goodDeus Ex: Mankind Divided is a lot better.
>>719970468If your game is broken on launch i'll never buy it even if it becomes a masterpiece or some shit. CP was a literal scam and you tards fell for it.
>>719955756Nintendo bonus
