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Real unpopular opinions only not shit like "zelda is bad" or whatever. Like real shit that would get others blood boiling.

I'll start. There's absolutely nothing wrong with "movie" type videogames. I'm talking games like Nu-God of War, Last of Us, Uncharted, FPS Resident Evil. Basically any game that puts a greater emphasis into presenting a compelling and immersive story over deep and complex gameplay. Sometimes I just want to chill out and experience a new story without having to giga-brain every second. I feel like people forget that gaming is just a pastime at the end of the day, and wanting to just turn off my brain and play some movieslop game shouldn't feel like a crime.
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I like seeing cool examples of disability in fantasy fiction, I like seeing weird mechanical wheelchairs or rudimentary prosthetics or magical creatures with disabilities or using epic sci fi shit to fix a condition not by just regrowing a limb or curing blindness or something lame like that, but instead weaponizing it, or even characters who do nothing with their disability but instead focus on other skills so they're still neat despite them
I like that shit and think it's fun and /v/ is a buncha faggots who would've loved it too years ago but because they saw it be done so much in shit ways, they think it simply cannot be done well at all
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>>720033723
>There's absolutely nothing wrong with "movie" type videogames. I'm talking games like Nu-God of War, Last of Us, Uncharted, FPS Resident Evil
most people like those games. it's just here where movie games are bad because le hardcore
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Games are... Le bad...
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>>720034127
I just find the pacing unbearable.
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There's nothing wrong with indie devs using AI voice acting for their games.
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>>720033948
Do you have any good examples of this?
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>>720033723
Story is as important as gameplay
Even in something like doom2
Where game is carried hard by the aesthetics aka visual storytelling.
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>>720033723
>There's absolutely nothing wrong with "movie" type videogames
Not per se but when it's all the AAA industry makes it becomes a problem.
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>>720034258
It’s horrible when there’s a pitch shifter though. Like in Howard’s legacy, I could t olay it cause the portage voice sounds so distorted and robotic no matter what setting it was on, having it default had the least amazing of distortion but still it was terrible.
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>>720034295
Yeah my mind video game
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The way your character walks in a game is one of if not the most important baselines for immersion and feel in a game. Like if your character uses the same exact animations on all terrain or inclines, or doesn’t actually look like they’re taking steps when going up or down stairs, it usually indicates to me that I won’t like the game. I can usually tell if I will or won’t like a game within the first minute or so of walking around.
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GTA is horrible and boring. RDR2 is pretentious garbage that plays like your character is covered in molasses. Rockstar is the most overrated developer ever, and it's not close.
Kojima is a bad writer who has never made a good game. The songs/memes in MGR are embarrassingly stupid.
BOTW was fun the first time through but there's zero reason to play it more than once
The Horizon games are fantastic.
Smash Brawl is awesome
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>>720033723
Fighting games are bad game design. Having to learn insane amounts of arbitrary stick twists just sucks the fun out of the game and in the end button mashing just becomes a valid strategy.
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Peace Walker is the best metal gear
FF12 is the best non spin off FF
Soul Hackers 2 was better than E33
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Silksong is a mediocre game, but people are too scared to point it out because people will say they are shit at games.
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Not an hot take but Zelda 2 is unironically good
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>>720033723
Most of /v/'s opinions are dog shit and this board would do well in not sharing them.
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Video games are awesome
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I have a few:

>There is absolutely nothing wrong with level scaling as a mechanic, and it’s the closest we’ve come to solving the common RPG problem of you becoming stupidly overpowered by playing the game too much. Level scaling means your prep work matters more than your stats, which is how it should be. The only people who bitch about level scaling are casuals with skill issues that are butthurt that they can’t grind to victory.

>the kind of Outpost liberation type quests you see in Ubisoft games are fun and are easily the best part of those games.

>There’s nothing wrong with weapon durability. It encourages you to vary your weapon usage rather than just stick to one weapon all the time.

>Water levels are nowhere near as bad as people say. I’ve never played a water level I’ve outright hated, and I’m convinced the hate for water levels is a meme. Plus, I like the aesthetics of them.

>Fanservice and coombait is tasteless and tacky, and doesn’t improve a game at all. There’s nothing wrong with having attractive characters, but a game isn’t good just because it shoves tits in your face.
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>>720035204
I have no opinion on 1 and 3 but the rest are 100% correct and based.
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We need more female/black/trans representation in vidya
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>>720034295
Barret from FFVII. Depending upon the Mortal Kombat game Jax either uses the metal to enhance his abilities to needing the metal exterior to use his arms. Bentley from Sly Cooper becomes wheelchair bound in the series and he outfits it with various gadgets since he's the brains of the group. Then there's obviously Robocop. For anything sci-fi you can just look at a person's back story and see why they have metal in them. Most are due to getting disabled, some have metal just to modify their body rather than an event that takes off a limb.
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>>720033723
>Real unpopular opinions
KOTOR1 > KOTOR2
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>>720033723
Pokemon games are still the best in the creature collector genre and are currently the best they’ve been since Gold/Silver
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>>720033723
30FPS is fine actually, I actually prefer it to higher framerates most of the time because of the cinematic feel it gives, higher framerates always felt off to me, like a soap opera effect, in which everything feels floaty and fake
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Doom Eternal is by far the best doom game as you can't cheese it with a single strategy like the other games.
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>>720035473
>if Atlus doesn't exist
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>>720033723
shmups are the most pointless genre in existence, if you've played one you've played them all, they're only played by sweats and turboautists that pretend to enjoy them for gamer cred
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>>720035584
TRUKE
Just a holdover genre from the Galaga days
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>>720033723
ninja gaiden would be better with a lock on

if metal gear solid 3 came out today it would be considered woke
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graphics are the most important aspect of a game
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>>720035079
>Soul Hackers 2 was better than E33
Now hold on. Soul hackers 2 had really nice characters but the story was dog shit, the soul power up dungeon sucks ass and the Sabbath combat system wasn't very good
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>>720035584
electric underfags in shambles
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>>720035695
I agree with all of this but E33 was even worse
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>>720033723
>re4remake gameplay is more fun than OG re4, especially on hardcore difficulty

>the scare factor of fixed camera angles is extremely overrated by classic survival horror fags and it isn't worth the tradeoff with more fun gunplay
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>>720034127
>>720033723
If you enjoy movie games, just don't call yourself a gamer then, you're just a tourist, you opinions on games are invalid than since you have no depth of insight nor taste, you are just a consumer. Not that anyone should aspire to be a "gamer" but if you have some sort of a take than keep it to yourself because it have no fucking value. As you said those are brain dead experiences, even though they technically touch on narrative and story design, no one really view the like that since the main demographic are impressionable npcs.
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>>720035695
The Soul Hackers games feel like they cost very little to make and, outside the characters, are really lifeless and boring. Walking around square box dungeons while occasionally visiting a static image that represents a person to talk to or a shop every once in a while is dire.
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>>720033723
Retail WoW > Private servers
Baldur's Gate Enhanced Editions > Originals
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>>720033723
>Want to play a game
>Watch a movie instead
Why?
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>>720035932
thanks for proving my point
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>>720033723
Okay, here's my honest take on remakes. They're often some of the best games I've played. This last part should be obvious though. They aren't the same game and never will be.
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>>720033723
Soulsborne slop isn't fun or interesting or challenging if you play PVP or tough Raid PVE in any MMO, and it's only creative value is the artistic designs of the levels. The people who jerk each other off over Soulsborne slop difficulty and other single player games simply can NOT hack it in any MMO
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>>720033723
Limbus company is a good gacha
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>>720033723
Souls games are clunky, mediocre ARPGs that live off the gimmick of being "hard". Had they come out in 6th gen, critics would have trashed them.
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>>720035932
Nobody should ever take you seriously when you're suggesting just liking a thing invalidates all else that you do because it makes you personally assblasted
>no no no you're not a le heckin gamerino, 2000 hours of xcom ufo defense don't count because you thought GoW 2018 was anything above a 4/10
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>>720035079
>Peace Walker is the best metal gear
Holy based
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>>720036218
Personally, I feel as though some people are afraid to admit that the remakes do some things better than the original.

I think what usually happens is that the remake becomes a side-grade to the original— Improving some things and worsening others to the point it cancels eachother out and ends up being neither better or worse overall.

In the end, it comes down to which elements you prefer.
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Kojima is a great writer who has never made a bad game.
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>>720033723
>Games don't have to be super balanced or "fair", some of the most memorable bosses and tough sections are also my favorite moments in these games and I love reminiscing about them. Games should be "unfair" and disharmonic sometimes, it gives them edge, like in music
>Game journalists are not that bad, they just have very different approach to them and people tend to point out their worst takes to be get mad for free. I've read plenty of decent articles
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>>720033723

Anon i... i like motion blur.
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>>720034689
Interesting, do you have an example for a game with bad walking?
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>>720036320
Saying you like modern AAA story driven slopa is like saying you like McDonald's and it's a hot take. It doesn't invalidate nothing, but if you fail to see how pointless this take is, then what else are you oblivious off... It's cute that you want to say something, it surely makes you feel "empowered" but sometimes silence is wiser choice.

MacDonald is great sometimes, but I'd rather not be doing any technical analysis on megacorporation whos whole point is to sell as many edible cardboard boxes as possible and use every trick in the book to make you buy one, while pushing some nu world agenda "on the side".
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>>720033723
There are no such thing as complete deal-breaker character designs that should turn you off from enjoying a game. They may possibly serve as indicators that the gameplay won't be too good either, but when that's undeniably not the case then you have zero excuse.
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>>720037373
Holy moly autism. Imagine defending the status of being a "gamer" online haha. I hope you're at least getting those autismbux
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>>720034251
Probably because the gameplay can be brought to a complete standstill as you wait for a 15 minute or longer cutscene to play out before you’re allowed to play the game again.
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>>720033723
Games being woke isn't the problem, it's games being actively anti-fun and anti-pandering. Baldur's Gate 3 is an example of a hyper woke game, there's a ton of lesbians, gays, bisexuals, trans, bipoc people everywhere. Yet pretty much every single young straight brodude gamer guy into RPG games liked it, because they could make their self insert and romance a hot white egirl, as well as become powerful and have a lot of options to kill people or generally have player choice and engagement to make your own adventure, and despite people being diverse they weren't intentionally anti-malegaze or anti-average player pandering. The issue with games like the new Outer Worlds or Avowed, is that they're full of devs sniffing their own farts, and thinking they are above player pandering, and need to present something authentic, to the point where anti-pandering becomes the main priority of even making something meaningful anymore and destroys everything. There's literally no audience for Avowed or the Outer Worlds 2. Nobody wants a roster of mildly autistic quippy asexual mulatto amputee people, it's such a boring and uninviting idea. Nobody cares.
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Microtransactions are completely fine as long as they're purely for cosmetic shit and have zero bearing on the gaming experience. Lootboxes are fine. Overpriced costumes are fine. Just don't buy them if you don't like them. I don't.
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None of the Fromsoft Souls games have a good story. All of them barely have a story, and the rest is left intentionally vague and filled out with item descriptions. What they have is lore, but delivered in the most passive way possible.
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>>720037664
It's a hot take thread buddy and you surely got heated. My job is done.
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>>720034689
Based. Also if a character's run animation continues when you're against a wall and the character looks like they're running in place, there's a large chance the game is shit.
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>>720033723
I think 3d mario and zelda games suck and want nothing to do with them. The format just works way better in 2d/top down. And yes, i tried super mario 64 when i was a kid and prime nintendo age and hated it. The mythical super mario 64 that everyone thought was so great back then.
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>>720034689
Autism: Diagnosed.
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>>720033723
There is nothing wrong with using gaming laptops and prebuilt PCs
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GTA is the most overrated franchise in the whole industry.
I dont get all this hype over GTA 6 like its going to be the next monalisa. Its an open world third person shooter. Those were impressive in the 2000s when just being open world was enough to make gamers go crazy, but nowdays its just another one.
And uts not even like it had an interesting setting or crazy gimmick. GTA is the vanilla icecream of open world
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>>720037742
You are using BG3 as the ultimate representation of woke culture which isn't the case. Larian are nerds first they allow all options on the table. The woke movement actively de masculate their stories and insert woman who can do it better. They don't add they subtract the experiences for others to champion their minority
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No matter how powerfull your pc is, it will never be as immersive and comfy as the good old TV + Couch combo.
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>>720038641
you sound like you take GTA for granted. Just look at the backlash Cyberpunk had because the citizen AI was hollow as fuck.
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>>720038818
It feels weird using audiophile stuff for TV. I wouldn't entertain a surround sound system anymore they have all been shit unless you dig deep in the wallet.
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>>720038484
Not inherently, its just a bit of a waste of cash and some designers cheap out or just lie about specs
Gaming laptops seem cozy though, I wouldnt mind having one
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>>720033723
Games that call themselves RPGs but you can only play as a set character with an established backstory, appearance and personality are not role playing games and never will be.
>B-but you PLAY the ROLE of the heckin character!!!!!!
By this retarded logic literally every single video game ever made is a RPG.
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>>720033723
Nothing wrong with vitiligo in video games
MGS4 is the best MGS
Popular games are fine. They are popular for a reason, you're not a smart person for thinking the opposite.
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>>720033723
less is more
most games are too bloated
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>>720039021
>literally every single video game ever made is a RPG.
They are
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>>720037742
No, games being woke IS a problem. Games being diverse isn't. It's okay if your cast is diverse as long as the characters aren't reduced to their diversity. Woke games have diverse characters for the sake of diversity, and nothing else.
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>>720033723
I thought Dragon Age 2 was just as good as Dragon Age Origins.
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RE1 got eclipsed by the rest of the series, and it would have been outright improved by giving Chris/Jill 8 slots.
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>>720038641
>GTA is the vanilla icecream of open world
brother GTA fucking invented ice cream leaping off from your food analogy.
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>>720033723
mobile games are more fun than "conventional" games
pvp games are more fun than both
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>>720040035
Based low standards anon
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>>720033723
MOBAs and hero shooters don't actually require skill, they require a combination of meta knowledge, time, and luck. Any attempt at portraying someone as a "hardcore" expert in one of these games is effectively stealth marketing, and idiots still fall for it because they'd like to imagine themselves as the "hardcore Overwatch veteran" that gets paid a doctor's wages to play video games.
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literally every game review is completely useless
just watch some gameplay footage and see if you want to play it or not
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>>720033723
The effort that goes into defeating the harder bosses in Fromsoft games is not proportional to the satisfaction felt after winning. Souls game are perfect for ambitious and driven people willing to waste their time on trivial pursuits
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Good Video games are better than they've ever been
t. 42 started with a hand me down Atari 2600
I will admit there are more shit games now with insidious agendas
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>>720040784
Also there are more good video games
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>>720040658
good opinion and I am not angry at you for saying it. it's "a truthnuke" as it were.
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Roguelike games are the ultimate expression of gameplay focused design, calling back to arcade and classic sensibilites where story was basically a barely hinted excuse and engaging mechanics are king, and it shows so much that even 4chan threads about those kind of games have a noticeably higher quality and on-topic discussion compared to other genres
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>>720040658
Yep
This is why I also play poker
Except in poker I make money for my efforts occasionally
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>>720040035
Disagree but I unironically get more enjoyment out of the animal crossing mobile game than the mainline ones, at least that one has SOMETHING to do despite being very repetitive.
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>>720040992
Nta but adding to this
Story only exists to provide context to gameplay
And even that isn't required 100% of the time

No single video game has a great story
Even the absolute "best of the best" are only as good as an okay episode of the walking dead
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Mass Effect 3 is so much better than Mass Effect 2 it's unreal
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>>720034127
>because le hardcore
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>>720041326
Should've posted the Better Man carrying the pig
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>>720033723
"Metroidvania" is a stupid fucking name. It should be "adventure games", it's that simple. There's "point-and-click" adventure games, yeah, but they're distinguished by "point and click". An adventure implies something a little more open-ended than, say, an action game or a platformer.

Also, players are souring on adventure games because they're using outdated and stale mechanics, including grinding for stats and resources, railroading, and abilities that are merely glorified keycards in handling designed roadblocks requiring those abilities. And they're always the same fucking ones. Double jump, wall jump, air dash, pogo mechanics, grapple jump, dashing or sliding, and so on. Just let the player go where they want to go! If it's too hard, they'll come back later, or they'll be stubborn and push through to find new abilities or stat boosters instead of grinding for them.
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>>720039149
>"Popular games are fine. They are popular for a reason, you're not a smart person for thinking the opposite."
Kinda agree, it always baffles me when contrarians try to argue that
>"timeless masterpiece that's widely regarded as one of the best games in the genre if not outright the best is actually... LE BAD!!!"
>"obscure game in the same genre that nobody cared for at the time of release and got middling reviews across the board is actually... LE BETTER!!!"
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>>720038356
I never cared for either 64 or sunshine, I liked galaxy but wasn't blown away by it like everybody else.
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>>720041457
Yeah and if you want to criticize them then you should point out the flaws and what could be done better rather than "THIS GAME IS THE WORST THING EVER AND EVERYONE WHO PLAYS IT IS DUMB AND RETARDED"
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>>720041624
this
nobody on this board can put their feelings into words without babbling buzzwords like a Mexican 10 year old
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The Final Fantasy 7 remake has been a disaster so far.
Bloating the game with MMO fetch quests and ubislop copy pasted activities is not the way to go.
If they wanted to pad out the games this bad, then hire some fucking writers and give us interesting side quests.

They way they are now, the PS1 game is still the superior version
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>>720033723
footy games like PES/FIFA can be worthy
granted, they haven't been in years, but still
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>>720042619
Uh this really isn't a hot take
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>>720035932
You can like both retard
Ive Pure Platted NSIC Bayo 1 and its one of my favourite games of all time
One of my other favourites is Infra, a walking sim
This tribal shitflinging mentalily has ruined discussions
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>>720044493
Rebirth has been praised everywhere, when imo its a 5/10
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RDR2 is average, at best.
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Video games are too fast these days. Too quick. Quicker even than when I was a boy. I'd like it if they could slow it down a peg or two. You don't need to be run dashing or jump diving into whatever, just take a moment to walk and think.
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>>720041403
Adventure games is too broad a term that applies to 3D games too, I think something like "exploration platformer" would be more apt.
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>>720045615
Castleroids
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>>720045615
Dungeon Platformer.
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>>720046367
What if there are no dungeons?
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>>720044493
It feels like they took some bad lessons from FFXIV on top of designing a game where you primarily wander from one minigame sequence to the next.
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>>720041403
What is a Metroidvania?
1. This is most often a 2D game, though some 3D games can also be described as Metroidvanias. Non-linear, interconnected world with regions that connect between adjacent regions, and sometimes connect to non-adjacent regions in unique or not-so-straightforward ways.
2. "traversal focused" i.e. usually a platformer to some extent, even without platforming challenges, although those can definitely be present.
3. combat focused, with a primary means of attacking enemies that inhabit the overworld, and an ever-growing repertoire of skills and equipment that double as both a means of attacking specific enemies as well as completing puzzles and navigating the environment.
4. exploration focused, with an impetus to explore a region at one's own pace and uncover its secrets, whose rewards are usually the aforementioned arsenal and equipment upgrades.
5. progression is tied to the acquisition of a certain number of quest items, which are usually acquired by exploring a region, acquiring the equipment therein, and defeating the region's boss. the regions that are gated by said progression are usually inaccessible for the sake of ensuring that players are equipped enough to explore it without encountering an environmental obstacle that they can't overcome.

So, these games are effectively "The Zelda formula" but integrated into one large environment, rather than split into smaller dungeon levels that are accessible via an overworld. The simplest term I can think of would be "non-linear exploration game" but then this leaves out the fundamental elements of combat and platforming. Perhaps something more like "non-linear combat-centric platformer" is more apt, but not everyone would agree that platforming is a necessary component of Metroidvanias. So, what are we left with? Don't the Japanese call these games "search type" games? Nothing is as catchy as "Metroidvania" even if it doesn't make sense.
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>>720033723
Deus Ex 1 is only made tolerable by the Pistol-Laser combo you get on Liberty Island. Everything else about the game sucks. The open approach to everything makes it so that there is practically no way for you to fuck up. One you "figure out" how to progress, you'll be doing the same thing over and over. At best, the game is built more around discovering all the secrets than anything else. The story is nonsense unless you want to LARP as a schizo believing conspiracies. There are maybe 3 bits of good dialogue with the rest being hogwash.

I honestly think the game would benefit from having a save function like Kingdom Come so that way choices you make have more impact instead of Quick Saving to see if X approach can work. I also think that it could stand to get a remake like Silent Hill 2 (which the remake is better than the original) that expands upon mechanics already established.

I say all of the above as someone who played it several times and never got it to click. I kept thinking that eventually I would see what everyone got hyped about but in reality it's just LE MAYMAY REFERENCE game that people pretend is better than what it is. Similar to the first 3 STALKERS (which BTW, Anomaly and Gamma are better than)
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Nintendo is completely coasting off the fact that Xbox and Playstation are repeatedly shooting themselves in whatever lower parts of their body they have left that they haven't already shot off; being the best of the worst doesn't automatically mean they're good right now, and people need to stop grading on a curve. Their business practices and prices are horrid, and their games have become aggressively mediocre and less focused/consistent in their design.

Gaming communities, especially this board, excuse far, FAR too much of Nintendo's recent behavior with the deflective reasoning of "Sony/Microsoft started it!" or "it's not AS bad as how Sony/Microsoft do it!". Not everything needs to be evaluated through a lens of being "versus" someone else.
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>>720037840
>what they have is lore
you mean prose? that's literally how storytelling works
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>>720035204
Excellent post, these are some truly abhorrent opinions
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>>720047754
They don't really have that either, most storytelling is just short stories in item descriptions, the plot is usually just "kill gods to access the world holding mcguffin and either let the aging world go or uphold it further"
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>>720046489
What defines a dungeon in a video game anyway?
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>>720037840
>>720047939
Sekrio has a more or less comprehensive story. Dark Souls 1's story is there if you want it, but admittedly it isn't force-fed down your gullet, and you have to put in a bit of effort to understand things. Dark Souls 2 took a turn for the worse, and by Dark Souls 3 they've shit the bed. Whether the story is good or not depends on your tastes, but it's definitely there. Yes, the lore is what people tend to focus on more often than not, and I agree that most of it is inconsequential fluff that leaves more room for speculative interpretation than getting a grasp on what's actually going on, but some of it can shed light on a character or area I suppose.
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>>720033723
i like dark souls 2
I enjoyed ff13 trilogy

X game from WEF company (like ubisoft lately) is shit and im not afraid to say it (veilguard comes to mind) except you'd just be surrounded by karens

game is good but should just be a movie (the last of us, TV show was shit tho, its literally the game but with unneeded elaborations and the wrong cast, though its not like you can magically make a loli ellen page, they already ruined the real ellen page)
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>>720038641
gta 6 is going to be the biggest flop in history
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>>720048406
It's going to sell fine by ordinary standards, but absolutely fall short of what they're expecting. Not launching on PC this generation is going to bite them hard in the ass, given how awful software sales have been on the PS5/Xbone alone.
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>>720033723
Hollow Knight was mid. A 6/10 generic metroidvania that is overhyped by zoomers who played it as their first one.
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Grinding isn't fun. When you have to manage your own difficulty experience you are locked into a dichotomy of wanting to explore vs wanting a challenge. However the reward for engaging with the game more being that the game gets less fun is not a good dynamic.
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>>720040035
Ok what is a fun mobile game?
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>>720048670
i dont mean money no gamer gives a shit about that thats corpo bollocks, take it to biz.
I mean from gameplay standards it is going to be the biggest flop in history. V was decade ago, online STILL sucks, they have no idea how to make a video game anymore, and all the OG devs are gone.
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>>720048295
Nioh has an actual story, as bad as it is, and even then it's just a fantastical version of Japanese history. I could actually tell you a rough plot synopsis of both of those games and it would have a clear beginning, middle, and end. Souls games have the modern equivalent of the old Doom end credits screen that says, "well done, guy, you killed the big monster but it turns out that was just the first wave. You're gonna have to get to episode 2 to kill the actual evil causing all the problems." People focus on the item descriptions and environments because most Souls games stories are actually pretty barren. Even Fromsoft does it themselves, that Elden Ring trailer that had Ranni narrating it? That was the entirety of the background to the game you needed to understand how shit went down and set up the game. The actual opening cinematic just says you're one of many tarnished come back to try to be the next Elden Lord and fix the Elden Ring. That's the entire plot right there and in roughly 5 minutes.
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>>720033723
A lot of new games are good and better than old games.
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I think almost noone had the patience to experience atleast 10% of the game, it gets better and better (especially if you play it on PC, where must be played) the combat, the soundtrack and the aesthetic. Yeah, the dub is pretty bad, but that gets fixed when you play it in japanese.
Still can't understand how this game has a 63 on Metacritic
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>>720033723
Deltatraveler is more entertaining than Deltarune Ch. 3/4.
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>>720033723
I don't like Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Elden Ring, Mario, Sonic, Zelda. Dota 2, GTA 5, Counter-Strike, PUBG, Overwatch
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Toby Fox's music isn't that great.
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>>720033723
Dark Souls 2 is a good game.
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>>720049858
Somewhat agree however it's incredibly consumable and undertale the song is a masterpiece
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>>720034689
I'd extend that to the animations in general, but I agree 100%. This was a big part of why I loved the original Dragon's Dogma.
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>>720049041
what did they mean by this?
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>>720033723
battling has always been the worst part of the Pokemon games
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>>720041253
This. Most video games have shit-tier stories. No moral complexity, no power struggles, no realism at all. Just get these bad guys over there and complete the objective.
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>>720033723
>nothing wrong with "movie" type games
I mean the entire premise is in this premise. Games are meant to be played, not watched.
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>>720034328
>visual storytelling
Soulsborne games are slop and always have been slop because of this meme. Shut your damn mouth.
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>>720033723
I enjoyed playing Starfield and think it's definitely better than Fallout 4 at least
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>>720051135
Item descriptions aren't visual storytelling. They're collectathons.
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>>720041253
Most of the time when someone says a game as a great story they either like that its trying to be like a movie or love anime melodrama
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>>720036309
>Had they come out in 6th gen, critics would have trashed them.
lol
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Soulsborne games will always be trash and Fromsoft never made a good game worth a damn
Cyberpunk 2077 isn't bad
If a game has dogshit graphics then it's not worth playing it
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>>720051713
OP asked for a controversial opinion, not the psychological profile of a clown
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This is a relatively common opinion since several other people have said the same thing here but I think it'sstill overall unpopular.
Dark Souls 2 SOTFS is the best game in the series. Best atmosphere, best exploration, best NPCs, best quests, some of the best bosses, best PvP. I love DS1 and DS3 of course but the former is a bit too simple gameplay-wise and the latter is significantly lacking when it comes to atmosphere and exploration.
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Mega Man X6 > X4
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>>720051950
I would have agreed if you said base DS2+DLCs. SOTFS feels like a bad romhack with the mixed up enemy encounters.
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>>720035124
I finished it about ... man it was like 15 years ago now. Anyway, I figured I'd play it to "get it out of the way" since it was the "black sheep" of the franchise, so my expectation was that it would be a slog, but it was really enjoyable. There's some obvious jank and cryptic stuff, but I like more than Zelda 1.
>>720038818
I don't know if this qualifies as a hot take, but I never understood why some people think that you can't hook a PC up to a big TV and sit on a couch. I do it all the time, in fact, it's my main setup for gaming.
>>720042619
>>720044493
>Uh this really isn't a hot take
It is for me. I think Remake and Rebirth have some very low lows and soaring highs, and they kinda balance each other out for me, but I also understand how it would completely ruin the experience for others. The music is great (obviously--except for the new, original tracks), and the combat is some of my favorite in video games. The fetch quests and "kill X of Y" are trash (particularly bad in Remake, but Rebirth is a bit better).
>>720047625
I used to say "Nintendo game devs good, Nintendo corporate bad," but now I don't even really agree with that. Switch 2 was the first Nintendo console I had absolutely no interest in since the SNES. And yes, I was interested in the Virtual Boy (thank god we rented one from Blockbuster and discovered it was not that cool).
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>>720049006
Sekiro has one of my favorite stories in gaming, if not my favorite. The main thing about it is that you don't see anything Wolf doesn't see (other than those weird ghost memory things), so you kinda have to piece things together yourself. Not saying piecing it together is hard, by the way.
>>720052290
As much as I think this is the hottest take in the thread, I have to admit I find myself replaying X6 more than X4 or X5. With X6 tweaks, it even becomes objectively good. There's something about the rough edges that draws me in.
>>720033723
>Mega Man 1, Zelda 1 suck
>Persona series sucks
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>>720052584
Cool, didn't ask
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>>720052584
TLDR faggot
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>>720052806
I disagree with anons and call classic games bad
>>720052661
ask this *unzip's dick*
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>>720033723
depends on your audience. There is no singular opion that will make you hated in every sphere. Your post competely flies on reddit for example. On the other hand if I am in a different sphere and say
>rockstar games are all fucking trash and have been for over 20 years
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>>720033723
>Basically any game that puts a greater emphasis into presenting a compelling and immersive story
It would be great if any movie games actually did that. Games like Portal tell a better story amd never pull away from the gameplay to tell its story
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>>720033723
Ridge Racer Unbounded is the best RR game
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>>720035584
>shmups are the most pointless genre in existence, if you've played one you've played them all, they're only played by sweats and turboautists that pretend to enjoy them for gamer cred
This but fighting games
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>>720037093
Most MMOs are bad about this but that’s pretty low hanging fruit imo. Most recent worst offender I can think of is Dune:Awakening. It looks like they just used the default waking template from unreal engine or whatever then called it a day.
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>I used to say "Nintendo game devs good, Nintendo corporate bad," but now I don't even really agree with that. Switch 2 was the first Nintendo console I had absolutely no interest in since the SNES.
I got a Switch 2, tried out Mario Kart World, got sick of it real quickly I never figured out the pre-patch trick to nearly guarantee a lapped race in public online during my time with the game, and returned the whole shebang after a week. They can make strong specific mechanics and ideas still, but I've come to realize that they've become hopelessly terrible at putting ideas together into a sensible and cohesive package. They've also lost sight of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality. Making Breath of the Wild open world made sense on some level, since Zelda was facing issues by becoming increasingly railroaded and hyperlinear (not to mention declining sales besides TP); Mario Kart wasn't in need of such a major pivot, so implementing it anyway hurt World badly.
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>>720048684
Saria would never smoke..
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>>720051135
he meant something like half life
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>>720033723
video games should have characters like this
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>>720053727
Bonus points if one of them is kemono.
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>>720033723
Its okay to pirate games to try them out. Especially modern games since they're mostly slop
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>>720053529
Yep, I pretty much agree with this sentiment, though I didn't play MKW. TotK was kinda the final nail in the coffin for me. It was competently made, enjoyable, fun to explore, but ... it was just BotW with different mechanics. I enjoyed it as much as I would have just replaying BotW. Probably even less, actually, since I didn't care for the building stuff. On top of that, the underground was tedious, and the sky was wholly underwhelming. Zelda without the "classic" (ALttP) Zelda dungeons just doesn't hit for me. The divine beasts were interesting at least, but not proper dungeon replacements. And the shrines are a whole different issue.
Even if some incredible killer app comes out for Switch 2, I will probably just patiently wait to emulate it while I work through my backlog. The Switch 2 is too expensive for nogaems.
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>>720051583
Failing at both
These "people" need to watch/read more
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I dont care for romance options in video games and the people who do kinda weird me out a bit desu.
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>>720054108
I care for romance options and the people who really care about them weird me out
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>>720033723
The 'game' part of any videogame is the worst part and least interesting.
If you are mad at this or think it's stupid, think about it again. It is a much deeper thought than you might think.
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Sonic was always good.

EN Sonic is better than JP Sonic. If JP Sonic was good, he wouldn't be a flop in Japan. The writing in Japanese is stiff and unreadable garbage that people only praise because Japan has an "exotic" factor to it that westerners envy.

Human x anthro is a good plot device and sonic 2006 had a good story.
What people call "edginess" is just accurate portrayals of how the real world outside their first world bubble is.

Competitive gaming and speedrunning are paradoxically for retards. No smart person wastes all their time to 'get competitive' at a video game instead of just going into the arts or engineering.

Mario 64 is no masterpiece. SMS is better.

The PS3 wasn't a bad console (backwards compat. with ps1/ps2 is amazing), developers were just too lazy to learn how to program on it and now praise nintendo for doing the same thing with switch 2.

The water dungeon in OoT is one of the best 3D dungeons ever made, and the fact that people hate it shows that the playerbase for zelda is the true limitation for zelda design, not the lock and keys or items.

Wind Waker is really fucking bad.

MGS4 is the best gameplay in the series. MGS1 is the best atmosphere.

LGBT stuff in realistic games is fine as long as it's accurate to how it is in real life. There are gays in real life, of course you can find them in a big open world.

Hollow Knight is boring and an awful metroidvania.

Extreme realism is universally a red flag to what will be a bad movie/game/art/etc. If you want realism, go outside.

Persona is an extremely bad series that people praise because they are lonely. It's a complete bastardization of jrpgs, dungeon crawlers, and SMT.

SMB2 EN >= SMB3 > SMB1 > SMB2 JP

If a game has blatant waifus, it's shit and they're appealing to your horniness to cover up other issues with the game. (bad gameplay, bad story, bad music, no substance, etc.)
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Video games (in general) aren't art. A lot of the things people complain about are due to people that would rip out anything "artistic" about them.
>"The game runs like shit"
Yeah, because investors don't give a shit and just want to shove out a product.
>"The localization is a meme"
Yeah, because the localizers don't actually care about the original intent of the writers.
>"They shoved in they/them pronouns and type 1/2 body types"
Because the publishers want money, and for some reason, investors are really into the whole "DEI" shit.
Before you give me that drivel of "the Sistine chapel ceiling was a commission", "ancient pottery you see in art museums were just basic tools of their time", or whatever, that's just because everyone just decided that it was art, for differing reasons.
>"It looks nice"
>"It's a representation of the aesthetic and values of the times"
>"It's a display of idealism"
I'm not trying to diminish the skill or talent it takes to make video games or, paintings, or drawings, or sculptures or even a translation. I'm also not saying that there aren't any artistic sensibilities that go into these products. But at the end of the day, that's what they are, consumer products, ones that have their artistry heavily compromised by a combination of money and the people and their sensibilities involved in them.
Even for something like translation, academics (the actual ones, not the social media meme ones) argue over semantics because of the cultural/historical climate of a work's time and if a single word even SHOULD be changed because there's no equivalent in another language regarding "the classics". Say that today, and everyone in the industry will talk down at you because "localization is about making it understandable/digestable to the local area, hence LOCALization". If The Tale of Genji, considered art for being one of the earliest novels" came out today it'd have the "problematic" elements like the MC basically grooming a child and raping her.
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The fact people universally agree that dark souls 1 sucks and falls apart after getting the lordvessel fundamentally means it is not a good game. If half the game is bad, it’s not a good game
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>>720033723
Too much blame is being put on game developers rather than the publishers that are forcing gay quotas and restrictions that ruin games. I'm sure most game devs do want to make a good game, but forced positivity and retarded creative leads put in place by publishers holds them back. Hell I'm sure those hyper leftist game leads could make more amazing games like BG3 if they weren't forced to sanitize their work
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I loved Farcry 3 and Farcry 4
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Actually, we don't have to be better men
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>>720039021
You’re being overly pedantic about the titles of genres. It’s like we all know what MOBAs are but what does moba stand for? Multiplayer Online Battle Arena… well isn’t that just every competitive multiplayer game? No. The genre title isn’t meant to be taken like a 100% bounding box idea. The main requirement descriptor of an EOF is usually having a leveling system and some sort build system that can drastically change gameplay. Doesn’t matter if you’re playing a set character or not. It’s like saying Witcher 3 is not an ROG because you can only be Geralt when it most definitely is an rpg.
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>>720033723
>I'm talking games like Nu-God of War, Last of Us, Uncharted, FPS Resident Evil. Basically any game that puts a greater emphasis into presenting a compelling and immersive story over deep and complex gameplay.
Funny how none of these games live up to the gameplay and story of Soul Reaver on the fucking PS1
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>>720035204
>>There is absolutely nothing wrong with level scaling as a mechanic, and it’s the closest we’ve come to solving the common RPG problem of you becoming stupidly overpowered by playing the game too much. Level scaling means your prep work matters more than your stats, which is how it should be. The only people who bitch about level scaling are casuals with skill issues that are butthurt that they can’t grind to victory.
You are genuinely retarded.
It doesn't solve anything and actively ruins gameplay, immersion, and emergent gameplay.
Stats should matter in a fucking RPG.
Scaling literally invalidates even your 'prep'. In RPGs you prep by leveling and grinding. It's the whole appeal of the genre, dumbass.
Levelscaling completely ruins encounter design, balancing, pacing, xp gain, loot, and creates a disconnect from the narrative and world-building with the gameplay. Kills variety too.
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>>720033723
The more simple an RTS is, the better it represents actual skill.

APM faggots need not respond.
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4k has made gaming worse.

Longer dev times.
3d artists that can't handle creating the extra details.
Bloated game sizes.
Extra money spent on graphics being cut from gameplay
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Shit games with sexy girls in them don't magically become good just because other people are making shit games with ugly girls in them.
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>>720054749
Vidya is just digital board games and playing with action figures
And that's based
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>>720054990
Graphics and artstyle peaked with ps2 gen
Maaaaaaaaaaaybe an upres to 720/1080, game dependent
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>>720035204
>>There’s nothing wrong with weapon durability. It encourages you to vary your weapon usage rather than just stick to one weapon all the time.
Creates a loop of never-using your weapons out of fear of breaking them. Counter-intuitive to it's own design.
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>>720040437
Lmao you are absolutely wrong. You’d lose the cs war 100% of the time against an immortal in Dota. Granted yes, mobas require a vast knowledge of meta knowledge time and luck, but a lot are just so fkn fast on their keyboard you couldn’t comprehend it. Some of the best carry players don’t even have great Meta knowledge per se, they are just absolutely insanely skilled with the characters they play and know what to do with their timings.
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Video games are not a remotely valuable skill and I don't really care how hard or easy a game is, besides the extent to which that impacts how much fun you have playing it. It isn't a useful utility like driving or learning a second language and it doesn't have creative value like art or music. A game can be relatively easy but still fun to engage with. Competitive gaming is a meme for incels with no real talent in anything else. Training to get better at a game for a competitive advantage is an utterly repugnant concept. There are a couple of games where I'm easily in the top 10% of players world wide and only because I've spent countless hours playing them because I enjoy them, and each time I've loaded the game up has been to play the game, not to practice or to get better like that somehow matters.
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>>720054920
This + it's solved by just making everything really hard at the start to encourage you to come back later. Bethesda games are 1000% better with mods that remove level scaling and make most location extremely difficult at the start. So you can't just walk into a dungeon at lv1-5 and kill everything with ease.

People complain about static levels in open world games becuase it makes them more linear in what yoi can do at the start. Like how New Vegas forces you to go South(unless you have prior game knowlege on how to sneak north).

When done well, no level scaling is better in Open World games than even linear CRPGs. As it makes the World feel actually immerssive and immergent. You'renpunish for going off in a direction you can't handle yet and you need to learn the World design as well. Where as the majority of CRPGs are rather linear and don't let you tackle content above your level most of the time. One of the only recent exceptions to that being Underrail post-Junkyard.
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>>720054108
I would like romance in games a whole lot more if it wasn’t painfully obvious it was written by some dudes that haven’t had any pussy in the past decade.
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>>720035932
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Halo Reach is a great game
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>>720056542
What would be a good vidya romance?
Not fucking with you, genuinely curious as haven't had a gf in 13 years
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Red dead redemption 2 is more fun to play in first person.
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>>720056643
You realize it’s possible to enjoy movieslop games and “real shit” without being a tourist. Being able to enjoy one doesn’t exclude you from being good at the other
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>>720057232
Is there a single good movieslop game thoughbeit
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>>720057269
Nvm I liked death stranding 1 if that counts
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>>720053160
At least some fighting games can distinguish themselves from each other by their single player content
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>>720033723
I thought Deadly Premonition 2 had a better story than 1 and is worth playing just for that.
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is the best JRPG released in the past 10 years.
I don't understand Zelda, and think it's kinda shit.
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Players killed RTS and arena shooters
>Set the bar too high
>No new players
>Wtf why my fav genre died out?
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now i might reinstall that game for the first time in years
had no idea it got a 1st person mode
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Breath of the Wild is better than Tears of the Kingdom.

The zonai devices and powers in TotK break the game so hard its funny. You can always just make a lego helicopter and beeline from A to B with zero challenge.

Meanwhile in BoTW, traversing the map was a challenge in itself. Every mountain, river or chasm presented a different problem you had to work around. This was way more fun than building the same hovercraft for the 50th time.
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>>720034689
Kek I stopped playing dragons dogma because of the walk animation
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>>720056998
One that actually has realistic banter in the relationship and explores kinks as well. One of the best examples I can think of is Yennifer from W3. Her and Geralt fight, banter, but also have really sweet and tender moments that don’t just always end up in sex. Plus yennifers obsession with the unicorn is kinda realistic like a girl who likes her toys. Like that’s a good romance. But even in the same game you have characters like Shani or Sylvia who you hang out with for a little and they just constantly worship you and wanna lift their skirt for you as soon as you help them in even the most minor of ways. Like those are pretty bad.
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>>720057872
This opinion is based THOUGH
The only issue I had with traversal in BotW was that there was basically nothing you could do if it started raining. If it provided an impediment or challenge instead, that'd be nice, but it was usually just "Oh I can't climb this wall/pillar to get that Korok seed because it's raining."
TotK remedied this but has too many other issues unfortunately.
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>>720035932
What a brain dead response.
>you dont like the right kinda game
>not a leet hax0r gamer chud like me
Kek you proved OPs point, you squealing around about what some random anon likes Is exactly what this thread is fpr
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>>720057024
Eh, the limiting low fov in it makes it pretty unbearable, great for immersion though and also looting inside small cabins.
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Redditor newfag cancer general
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>>720037742
I didnt read all of that, but you are wrong. The very first sentence set up the rest of thay for failure.

Woke is an issue, and it isnt fair to discredit people who dont like it. Voting with your wallet is a good idea
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>elden ring is overrated and tedious
>in fact most of fromsoftware games are better
>there are no good porn/Hentai games that includes rance
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Crackdown (and 2 and 3) and Saints Row 4 are etter super hero games than the Arkham series
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Realism is actually a good thing and makes games more fun while also being educational, because the mechanics can feel natural while still offering depth without forcing players to spend time labbing or figuring out confusing controls and obscure tech that only matters in entertainment software
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why isn't crackdown 3 on steam?
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>Stomping is BAD for the MP game
>AI NEEDS to be stupid in some way, it can't just be perfect killbot that annihilates everything
Players HATE losing. There is not a single person in the entire world who would like to lose all the time. This is the same reason why 90% of games with RNG favour the player
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>>720058391
I mean, they’re fun sandboxes to just fuck around with and blow shit up and kill shot, but it gets old in like 3 hrs tops. Arkham usually has a decent enough plot to get me through plus the immersion factor of playing out my Batman fantasy tickles the autism a bit.
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>>720058538
>it can’t just be a perfect kill or
This is why I stopped playing Tarkov. They overturned tf out of ai scavs. Nobody wants to play a game where the ai can shoot you with about precision through a 1 cm crack in the door coming around the corner at 30 mph
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Crisis Core is the best thing to come out of FF7, and I honestly had more fun playing it than I did with FF7 itself.
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>>720033723
Collective Shout and Payment Processing Servers are so fucking based for going after weebslop “games,” the bugmen do nothing but indoctrinate our pure white western youth into becoming pedo trannies with their promotion of such degenerate values such as pedophilia and incest. Japan and the entirety of East Asia needs to be stopped and quarantined off from the rest of the civilized world, Asians are genuinely the most perverted people I’ve ever met, even low-IQ Abo Pajeets have more of a sense of sexual decency and normalcy.

Censorship is good actually if it’s concerning stopping the spread of normalizing abnormal attractions such as pedophilia, incest, or LGBTQ. Yes, there IS in fact such a thing as “Wrongthink” and the government should have a say in preventing such obvious propaganda to be allowed to be spread, doesn’t matter if it’s fictional or not.
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>>720058538
>Stomping is BAD for the MP game
Does anyone actually think otherwise? Stomping is boring as fuck for the both teams. 99% of the players lack the discipline after being stomped to analyze what went wrong and try better in the next match. They'd rather leave the server and find a new one.
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pve games cannot be hard
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>>720059703
Based anti-weeb CHAD!
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>>720035079
>Peace Walker is the best mgs game
I was planning to write that kek
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>>720033723
>Ocarina of Time overrated, Skyward Sword underrated
>League of Legends, garbage now, used to be good and simple
>No Man’s Sky still sucks as of 4 months ago
>Fallout 2 really dropped the ball, 4 isn’t as bad as people make it out to be
>Starfield is an adequate game, just really casual.
>Dawn of War 4 might actually be a good game.
>Still didn’t play CyberPunk2077, will not be guilted into buying it.
>Pokemon games were never good.
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>>720044617
Ironically, OPs point is not necessarily a hot take, the real hot take is the rebuttal to OPs idea, or my take, something that no one would say out load but know exactly in their heart. But because the nature of the ideas here are so... Uncertain, people like to present OPs take as "hot".

My position here is unsaid truth, it's the aspiration for something better and not proud acceptance of moral degradation that is seemingly justified.

This is almost exact style of "hot take" as woman saying that it is normal to whore themself for money, or rather rich sugar daddy. From a shallow glance, there is nothing bad with it, you are independent woman who wishes to do her "woman" duties and be better for it. But we all know that this is a shameless act for subversion human moral values of self respect and emotion, something that whores have really hard time accepting.

There is always a place for whores, but there is nothing to be proud off about being one, nothing.
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EXP Share and Open World are actually great things in the Pokemon series because it enables you to create a variety of different teams, and the lack of level scaling means you can always build around the enemy's levels with a different rotation leading to a greater and more enjoyable experience
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>>720033723
>>720034127
People here hate movie games because they are obnoxiously self-indulgent with their protracted forced walking segments, constant gameplay interruptions and those tap X to open a gate minigames. It's not because they lack complexity.
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>>720033948
Based and not that unpopular as we see it from time to time in fiction nowadays. I love it because it shows the simple truth that we can adapt and be part of society even if we're damaged.
>>720034295
My nigga Geordi Laforge from TNG
Harold from Dragons
Guts from Berserk
Toph from Avatar
Leila from Futurama
Now that I think about it, this isn't proof of quality, but most of the best fiction I can think of has it.
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>>720033723
Gameplay-story integration is more important than plain fun, quality of life or balance.
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>>720033723
They are a new concept by genre age metric. I dislike most of them but I liked Telltale : TWD very much.
I think they will get better and more varied with time, so that they can please a wide variety of players, from the most braindead to the most autistic.
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>>720066778
>They are a new concept by genre age metric
It's literally P&C but slightly more interactive
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Gachas should get their own board and fuck off from /v/
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>>720033723
The thing I don't get is, at that point why even bother with a game? Why not watch a movie directly?
You're just compromising both mediums for no gain.
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>>720033723
Story is not important in RPGs
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>>720034258
Okay now you got my panty in a twist
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The vast majority of horror games aren't very good as horror experiences or video games and the only reason they're popular is because women are easily scared and they like the feeling of being in danger.
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>>720034960
You're a gameplay fundamentalist and I respect your opinions.
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>>720035179
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>720033723
This is such a retarded nu fag take. Tlou and gow aren't movie games. We started using that term for shit like gone home. Games with literally no gameplay but walking around and looking at shit.
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>>720035204
Level scaling makes me feel like Sisyphus instead of Hercules.
Outpost liberation is great, no arguments. One of the saving grace of open worlds.
Weapons durability doesn't encourages, it forces the player, big difference.
Water levels are hard as fuck when you're a kid in the 90's.
Fanservice is for retards, no arguments.
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>>720033723
Digimon World 4 is the only good Digimon game.
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>>720057557
You lie
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>>720035204
>>There’s nothing wrong with weapon durability. It encourages you to vary your weapon usage rather than just stick to one weapon all the time.
Lmao it's just going to piss off the people who can't bear to use consumables while achieving nothing.
If you want people to use many weapons give them a positive reason to, like making them clearly differentiated and having them give you a meaningful edge against specific defenses.
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>>720037749
But they're a sign that the devs like money more than their player. For me it's almost an insult, at least a lack of respect.
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>>720038641
>posts falloutguy
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>>720037749
This is basically pic related videogames edition
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>>720044972
Legendary visuals, simulation, and story. Boring everything else.
It feels like a proof of concept for a better game that will never come.
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games don't have to appeal to me personally to be perfectly valid
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>>720056998
>What would be a good vidya romance?
It's cope in more ways than one but snoot game felt real.
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>>720066712
Extremely based, even moreso if the game forgoes any cutscenes or text
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>>720054749
Yeah, video gameS aren't art but one vidya can be art.
One is a medium and the other is a product that can become art.
All art starts as a product, a project, something base and vile, physical. Then it becomes ideas, memes.
Cinema isn't art : it's the science of the art that some movies are.
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>>720054947
If your game is mechanically simple, APM is all the more important.
Complexity makes micro less important, because I'll macro you into the fucking wall even if you rape your mouse.
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>>720056978
It's very dear to me and my brother. The helicopter mission was great.
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homosexual romance is fine as long as they aren't the same species or some cope shit like human/elf
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>>720058450
I would never put realism and natural in the same sentence. Nature is confusing as fuck.Our body can't even perceive most of it.
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>>720066896
Pee and Cock?
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>>720067208
I'm a man and I like the feeling too. Gets the adrenaline and testosterone pumping.
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>>720033723
Videogames sucks
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>>720070001
Point & Click
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>>720069670
I see two men kissing all I feel is disgust. I don't think the devs intend to do that but they do.
They aren't opening minds, they're preaching to the choir. And the choir doesn't buy games.
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New Vegas is merely good, not great. I'll still buy a remaster from the kikes at Bethesda. But it's no masterpiece.

The worldbuilding and is excellent. But the actual main plot and the choice between the four factions is mediocre at best. It's way more of a power fantasy that a lot of its fans like to admit.

It's a main quest with zero conflict. Once you're in Vegas, you decide which person you like and win, win, win. There's no point where there even seems to be a possibility of failure and whichever factions you're opposing never do or say anything meaningful to threaten you. (And if they do, they have no story behind them, like Centurions attacking you at level 5. It's not a plot point. It's just random nameless guys.) Even if you do fail a mission, there's no sense of despair or fear or really even worry. It's just "Darn it, that's annoying try to do better next time. Now on to the next mission..."
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Visual Novels are more compelling than movie games because they leave more to the imagination just like how books are superior to movies.
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>>720070149
Oh, then my point still stands. P&C is brand new compared to literature or even cinema.
I have high hopes for the medium.
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>>720070001
>>720070149
Pussy and clit
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Rom hacks that fix balance are the superior way to play the classics because the devs oversight gives a lesser experience to the overall product.
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>>720070418
Any recommendations for someone who really, really loved The House in Fata Morgena?

(Yeah, I know the twist is bullshit, but the rest was fucking phenomenal)
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>>720033723
I actually genuinely really liked Balan Wonderworld. I played 60 hours and got most of the achievements. It's a really comfy 7/10 game with lots of passion and heart.

I bought it as a joke initially, but it was cute and relaxing to play. It has some almost Meteoidvania-like design with how you unlock power-ups and how you can return to previous levels and reach new area and things. Also, I really liked the Tims.
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>>720070596
Mahoyo is a fun one that's not too long. Ace Attorney are also fun while providing some point and click gameplay elements between courtroom segments.
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>>720070851
I absolutely love the Danganronpa games. I bought a collection of Ace Attorney games a while ago because I wanted something similar, but man, they're just so much less intense and heart-pounding than Danganronpa. I get the feeling I should push through it and things will heat up a little.
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>>720033723
no mans sky is still a shallow and shitty game, hello games should have fixed it up and moved on instead of wasting a decade trying to shape a flawed foundation into something good.
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>>720041403
I always called them 2D Open World games, i never ever used the term metroidvania, you know, cause i like terms that are ACTUALLY INFORMATIVE.
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>>720037749
I used to think like this until I realized thar games used to just let you unlock loads and loads of cosmetics by playing them, with achievements or with in-game currency
Things are so much worse than horse armor now, games will have you paying 10+ burgers for a single fucking cosmetic because complacent fags just let it happen
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>>720033723
Western devs shouldn't make console games. Stick to PC and let Japan work on consoles. Would this make /v/'s blood boil? Probably not. But this would put me on every Xbot's shitlist.
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>>720071080
Tension in Ace Attorney is usually tied to cases involving mystics fron Kurain Village so yeah the start can be alittle on the slower side. The payoffs are worth it for the recurring characters that receive development.
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>>720070304
you're absolutely right. i just think there should be some cute shit like elf/kobold or something
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>>720033723
Borderlands 2 has some of the best writing in the entire medium
Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel is better than 2
woke representation is an objective good
retro worship is pitiable and games like Castlevania SOTN have aged fucking horribly and are genuinely dogshit compared to something like Hollow Knight and Silksong
if a bullet hell doesn't have a branching narrative it's even less of a videogame than a VN with a branching narrative
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Diablo 4 is the most fun ARPG on the market. Fun is king when it comes to games and should be your priority when discussing.

Also, Overwatch 2 is the best hero shooter on the market
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>>720033723
"woke" isn't a valid criticism of a game.
it's fine to not like a game if it is woke though. but also "woke" gets thrown around way too much and has lost all meaning. a lot of games people call "woke" aren't even woke.
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>>720072442
Correct, same for any of the avalanche of buzzwords that /v/ has used and abused over the years.
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>>720033723
mario 2 (japan) is better than mario 1
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>>720033723
I don't give a single shit about Silksong or Clair Obscur E33.
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>>720035006
>and in the end button mashing just becomes a valid strategy.
ah so you don't play
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>>720072980
USA Mario 2 is better than both
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>>720035204
If they're gonna scale the levels then the enemies need an in universe story buff.
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>>720067592
>We started using that term for shit like gone home
Why are you pretending to be old, zoom? Uncharted was widely called a movie game and that shit came out in 2007
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>>720035584
>you've played one you've played them all
said by the guy whos only seen like 3 lol
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>>720039008
If thats a waste of cash then building a pc is a waste of time.
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Dragon Age 2 is the most interesting game in the series and the plot turning into Anders going terrorist is a good plot twist
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>>720038641
Agree with everything you said except setting. We're finally about to get florida kino.
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>>720073346
>Uncharted is shoot and cover and I hate it
>Gears is shoot and cover and I love it
Maybe is the visual aesthetics or maybe the puzzles but I can't stand Uncharted gameplay
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>>720033723
Pokemon Gen IV is soulless garbage featuring some of the worst designs in Pokemon history, a distinct "kiddification" compared to the tone of the previous games, and felt like a "halt" upon the progress the franchise was building upon with each successive entry. Conversely, Pokemon Gen V was a brilliant return to form in every aspect, particularly Monster designs and gameplay. The story was a huge step up, and unquestionably the most "adult" Pokemon's story has gotten to date.
The love Gen IV gets to seems like a case of its users ACTUALLY having rose tinted glasses for something they played in their childhood, because it is such a clear step down from the previous games in legitimately every capacity. Whereas the hate Gen V gets seems more akin to the situation where illegitimate criticisms became propped up as "true" through a memetic narrative that still (wrongfully) affects actual discussion of the games.
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>>720073868
gen 4 is only loved as much as it is because platinum is the only third version that fixed shit instead of just adding content onto the base games, and the content it did add was a lot. hgss is also gen 4 so that props it up a lot.
gen 5's entire hatebase can be boiled down to "ice cream and trash bad!" i still see this shit from grown adults
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>>720034127
unironically, movie games insist upon themselves
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>>720073868
Hated Gen 4 because of the molasses paced gameplay. Gen 5 was a comeback because it was conventionally playable. Simple as. Couldn't tell you shit about 4's tone - I didn't get that far.
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>>720033723
GTA Vice City wasn’t very good in retrospect
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>>720049006
>beginning, middle, and end.
um souls games have that its just not clear
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>>720074370
Parryslop
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>>720051348
environments and enemy placements are visual story telling though same with emblems and icons
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>>720074248
The music was definitely the highlight but it's not a bad game. But we've been stuck on 80s nostalgia for 20 years now
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This is the ideal Nier protaganist, all other opinions come from people who just wish they had a little sister to fuck back when they were miserable, single, and horny. TLOU and GoW wish they were a quarter of the dad-who-ruins-the-world-for-their-kid simulator Gestalt is
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>>720033723
Role playing/level up mechanics are an uncreative way to pad out a game.
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>>720066941
they do and did though?
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>>720074443
thats not even on topic
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Dead or alive is more skill based than tekken.
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>>720033723
Playing vidya is useless. There are a million other hobbies that would actually benefit you in life.
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>>720054773
This is one I never understood. It also obviously applies for DS2, but also the boss roster of DS3. I've seen a lot that "oh man DS3 has the best bosses, even better than ER" and at the same time "oh yeah, Tree Balls sucks, and Crystal Sage sucks, and Oceiros sucks, and Deacons sucks, and Aldritch sucks, and Yhorm sucks, and Gravetender sucks, and Halflight sucks" and at that point once you're listing like half the bosses, can you really say it's the best?
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>>720033723
Every single video game except the fighting genre would be better without combat.
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>>720035401
basado
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>>720073868
>gen v
>return to form when even the anime was a shit reboot
>not being "kiddy" despite the first gym being a literal tutorial for type matchups and an npc constantly halting you through the donut shaped map so retard wouldn't get lost
>not having some of the most dogshit ass designs in the franchise
bizzarro world post
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>>720074592
I can appreciate the brother sister relationship but man the father and daughter thing really hit me hard in Nier.
I thought TLOU did a decent job but I couldn't even get myself invested in the GoW story
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>>720033723
There is no good reason to force sprint and dodge to one button in souls games, especially on PC.
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>>720033723
Destiny 2 is the only good coop shooter ever made.
Replay value is a meme.
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>>720033723
I want another obese cream the rabbit thread
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>>720033723
Genshin Impact is the best game of the 20s so far but will never get that distinction because of the stigma surrounding gacha games.
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>>720077797
This isn't a hot take this is just mental retardation
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>>720037742
The issue here is that this is born from being woke. Not so much the characters but the devs. Think, why did the new Halo have unsatisfying gunplay? The reason, they hired someone that hates guns and barely considers sci-fi guns to be acceptable. Would someone like that be able to make good gunplay? No. So why was he hired? Probably because he was a raging homosexual. This is also why using BG3 is a bad example and why the woke use it as a gotcha.
>IT'S WOKE SO WHY ARE YOU SAYING WOKE GAMES ARE BAD
But the reason a grand majority of woke games are shit is because of who they've hired. A dev that's relatively normal putting in woke shit doesn't make the game bad. But you are aware of the difference between woke devs and diverse characters. It's just a terminology thing.
Put simply when most of /v/ says a game is bad because it's woke, it's because the characters sound like or look like they came out of tumblr. When a cast is diverse but not woke it's because the devs aren't social media addicts.
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>>720033723
Monster Hunter should have soulslike gameplay.
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>>720077885
in these 5 years the game has garnered some impressive stats and feats
it only sounds retarded because you hate it
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>>720078217
This unironically reads like you're getting paid to say it.
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>>720033723
Souls games are dogshit. Genuinely poorly made, feel like Chinese bargain bin slop. They have wreaked havoc upon the modern gaming scene.

Sonic was never good.

FF was never good.

3D mario has one good game(64) and it is excellent. Camera issues are nonexistent.

Castlevsnia was never good.

SH only had one good game (SH).

RE2 is shit (original and remake) and RE3 (original and remake) is underrated.
>>720074049
HGSS and the original gold and silver are the worst pokemon games.
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>>720073868
>Gen 5
>Dumbass rotation battles
>Ugly ass animation
>Worst monster designs up until that point
>Gay story
Gen V was the beginning of the end. It marked the beginning of Game freak doing literally anything but making a better game.
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Hollow Knight was pretty good but the silksong hype was ridiculous and unwarranted
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>>720079385
It's an Undertale type situation where a certain group of people latched on to the anthropomorphic characters of the game. These are the people who are only just discovering that they're furries so even they don't understand why they feel so attracted
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>>720078217
>in these 5 years the game has garnered some impressive stats and feats
The reason no one will ever believe you isn't because it's gacha but because every single person that praises it comes across as a shill. "IT'S THE GREATEST GAME EVERER AND BETTER THAN EVERYTHING EVER MADE" Look, if you feel that way great but like with TLOU when I hear that kind of shit, look inside and see a subpar game I only see you as a shill being paid to say it. It also doesn't help that chinkshills came here and were the most obnoxious faggots possible while praising it treating it like genshin should be the only game to exist. It's a case of even if it were true no one will believe you because the people saying it all speak in the most blatant marketer approved manner possible. Case in point "stats and feats" who fucking cares? Why should we praise something that had the backing of the chinese government and Sony?
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>>720035401
It's not even close, Kotor 2 is an unfinished game
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>>720077797
Well, Genshin is suprisingly good and only thing that it lacks is endgame and pvp. With those it would be typical MMO with nice graphics and story. Total warhammer 3 and Andy and Leyley are hands down better, but Genshin can have 3rd place imo
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>>720079718
i think simply its what happens when your fanbase is mostly children. almost feverish hype and excitement.
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>>720077797
Definitely the most influential game of the 20s. Nothing else comes close really.
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>>720033723
>Sonic the Hedgehog was not only always good but also an inspiration to the industry at large as they all started copying aspects of Sonic games like the Homing Attack, insane amounts of hand-holding and large amounts of automation. The industry only shits on the series so you don't notice how many of them are inspired by him.
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>>720079816
>every single person that praises it comes across as a shill
And every person criticizing it sounds like they're not even familiar with the genre, forget about the game itself
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I'd rather play a game where the art is made by AI than the pixie indie style done by a developer with no artistic talent (practically all indie pixel graphic games)
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>>720033723
A majority of the people who whine about women and trannies in game development roles are secretly jealous and seething that they didn't put in the time and effort to get into those development positions themselves.
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>>720055689
BASED ALERT
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>>720033723
Unpopular opinion threads are just a way for people to jerk themselves off over having banal opinions.
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>>720079816
>Case in point "stats and feats" who fucking cares?
But it's the most objective measurement, even more accurate than awards given by game journalists. And why should I care who backs up a product as long as I enjoy it?
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Elden Ring is a dog shit and the worst "souls" game and I'm being 100% serious.
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>>720080420
nta but I put like 30 hours into genshin, it's not even close to being the best game even when it came out. It's cool sure, the world looks nice and the music is nice but the core gameplay isn't fun enough to keep playing as much as the game wants you too, the gacha aspect cannot be ignored and it's awful, the game wants you to care about the story and characters while having unbearable to read writing, and the character designs are bland.
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>>720035204
You could not be more wrong about level scaling. Level scaling specifically invalidates your progression through levels. Instead why not simply arbitrarily change your character and enemies power, it will make more sense. Fortunately others can see you are wrong.

That being said I am of the opinion we should get rid of levels and hp altogether. It's a vestigial remain used as an abstraction of progression that goes all the way back from tabletop. We could evolve past it but creativity is incredibly stagnant in the gaming industry right now. And I say that as someone who loves video games and tabletop rpgs.
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Removing the unique IP count was a mistake.
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>>720079385
It's the meme value of it all. Babby's first delayed gratification, Team Cherry made a mistake announcing it as soon as they did. Still, some of us waited over 15 years for Metroid Dread.
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>>720035204
The water level one is based but the rest of these are pretty dreadful.
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>>720034689
100% true

The way your character moves around is literally one of the most important things in a game because you're always doing it, and devs still fuck it up
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>>720077797
>stigma surrounding gacha games
Which is absolutely deserved.
I doubt the game will be redeemed in the future either, because the game will be dead and gone by the time impartial eyes could look on it.
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>>720033723
Elden rings animations look like stiff garbage. Grapics may be nice but swinging the weapons and walking around looks like im watching C3PO.
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>>720051309
I personally feel Starfield is their best RPG. Hopefully Terran Armada gets a decent reception, but at the same time I'd rather not have people who only like Starfield just because it's cool, acceptable and everyone is doing it. Almost like the Cyberpunk 2077 situation where I'm positive fans of that game from the beginning aren't sure why people like it now when, foundationally, it's the exact same game as it always was.
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>a compelling and immersive story
I can't believe this shitty bait is probably hitting bump limit
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>>720033723
I want to be a girl but id never be a transgender freak
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People who say "xxx isn't political" about some hilariously political game are usually dysgenic retards to whom the only "political" thing in existence are trannies.
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>>720088362
You know what they mean by "isn't political" it's about the nuance. The difference between "here is war, I believe it's bad but here are other nuanced characters giving their views on it that you may also agree with" and "I IDENTIFY AS THEY/THEM NOW DO PUSHUPS FOR MISGENDERING ME"
Political when used on /v/ doesn't mean political themes, it means political propaganda and soapboxing but (You) knew that already didn't you, you deceitful troon.
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>>720089387
Pray for Israel more, retard.
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>>720089796
I will, I will pray for its destruction so the jews can finally be wiped from this Earth, faggot.
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>>720080646
Vintage meme, anon. Here it is in higher quality.
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japans browness cases all their video games to be trash

they have never made a good video game
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>>720033723
I don't like either Sonic Adventure game and much prefer Heroes and Shadow
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>>720035204
For your first opinion I somewhat disagree. The problem with level scaling and making sure everyone is the same level as you is that it makes the level up system completely pointless. Because what's the point of having levels when everyone is going to be the same level and strength as you?

I think a better solution is to keep the leveling system, allow the player to grind and overlevel, but instead have an extremely high difficulty curve so even if you do overlevel, it still requires skill to win instead of being a mash A to win simulator. It's not perfect, but it still gives the leveling system a purpose while still providing a challenge to even those who overlevel. Bonus points if you implement a reward system that gives the player with lower levels and gear better rewards while giving the people who over level next to nothing.

Or implement optional level caps. Make sure they're optional so it doesn't kill the experience for everyone, but level caps are a great way to challenge yourself. Bonus points if you force yourself to have your party a few or more levels lower than the enemies.

Again, while I understand where you're coming from, there are better ways to challenge people who overlevel than just killing the purpose of leveling up entirely.
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>>720089387
Immediately proved the dude right.
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>>720033723
Yuri is based
Women write relationships better than men
Female characters are inherently more compelling than male which is why incompetent writers default to them
Quick popular opinion: I fucking HATE women
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Alien Isolation stinks. If you remove the scary aspect, the game itself is boring. Hide under a desk, wait for the alien to pass, then hide in a locker, etc. Go get a password to unlock a door to restore power to get a tool to hack a console. It's just bad gameplay. The only thing that makes it work is the fear aspect, but fear isn't a gameplay mechanic. I refuse to accept bad gameplay just because the fear is so effective. Look at Dead space for example, that game is scary and it's also a great game. If you removed the fear aspect from Dead Space you'd still have fun and engaging gameplay.
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There's nothing wrong with save states
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>>720090968
>If you remove the scary aspect, the game itself is boring.
That's most horror games, especially the hide-and-seek ones. Go back far enough and they can at least still function as glorified point-and-clicks though.

>Look at Dead space for example
So you like action horror games then. That's fine, but that's basically what that means.
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I liked this game and the feeling of such grim ways of life having no happy ending
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>>720090968
>if you remove
Why do people make such banal statements like this?
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>>720091268
Listen, I understand that the gameplay of Alien Isolation is deliberately slow to emphasise the atmospheric horror. It's not just that I want every game to involve stomping necromorphs. I just don't think Alien Isolation has good gameplay, even compared to other examples from it's genre. What would be a comparable game? Amnesia? I think the sanity mechanic is more interesting than anything in Isolation. SOMA? That game has a much more compelling narrative than Isolation. Fear is not a gameplay mechanic. Isolation has no value as a video game.
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>>720033723
Resident Evil 6 is unironically a good game.
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>>720091637
Sure. Isolation's appeal was never the raw gameplay so much as "it's like the first movie, but a video game". That was always its selling point. Well, that and the alien's AI I guess but eh. Saying something like "if you remove the scary aspect" is silly because that was always what the game sold itself on. No one expected any different. So yes, when you take the best part of a game out, it's not really all that interesting. Go figure.
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>>720035401
It is though
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>>720090968
Agreed. I’ve been a huge fan of the Alien franchise all my life and I just couldn’t get into it. Gameplay was crap, enemy AI and hiding systems ware garbage, and just overall it wasn’t a very good game. I stopped playing about an hour after I first saw the Xeno.
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>>720091365
this game fucks with no consent

fragile alliance is the best PvPvE experience in gaming
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>>720033723
I don't mind the fact that movie games exist, but I absolutely hate the fact that all the big budget games are all movie games now. It would be fine if it was just another genre but it's wayyy too common now.
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>>720049858
nah, lot of his stuff is insanely memorable, has a great ear for melody and his use of leitmotif makes it more emotionally moving
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>>720033723
You are completely right. Im a gameplay first kinda guy but /v/ will seethe at movie games cause it ISNT LE HARDCORE GAME but games like elden ring, sekiro, path of exile 2, silksong etc are all completely hated on because of their difficulty. Half of /v/ right now is seething about silksong being too hard therefore its a bad game

the reality is that when /v/ says gameplay first, they actually mean nu shitendo slop where you can mash buttons and win. It also makes sense that the hatred of movie games come from tendies despite those movie games being harder than the average nintendo game

/v/ is the farthest from gameplay first due to all the gacha/XIV threads. They only hate movie games because of this board being /v/intendogaf. Movie games can be fun at times if theyre good fuck em
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My hot take is that (you) don't actually care about microtransactions and battlepass slop being shoved into games to make them worse. If (you) really cared, then (you)'d stop fucking buying the games and cash shop bullshit, but (you) just can't help handing over (you)r money to the corporate jews.
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>>720093917
>despite those movie games being harder than the average nintendo game
Anon, please, nu-GoW is so braindead it holds your hand more than any Mario game ever has. And being "harder than the average Nintendo game" as a metric of quality THEY'RE RATED M FOR MATURE. Being only SLIGHTLY harder than the average Nintendo game isn't a point of praise, it should be one of mockery even more so when most people that play them brag about how mature the game is but is it really "mature" if your metric for difficulty is the average E rated Nintendo game for children? No, no it isn't.
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GTA Online is the best GTA by far.
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most souls 'fans' don't like the game, they have a small penis and think that beating fromsoft games will make them a real man
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A game doesn't have to be mechanically great to be worth playing.

If you know what mechanics you like in a game and enough about how they generally work then you're likely at a point where things like aesthetics and storytelling are what could lead you to pick one game over another. Gameplay absolutely matters, but mostly in being used as a filter on what kinds of games you want to even give the time of day. I'd much rather play a 5/10 in a genre that I know I like, but looks and sounds cool than some overhyped 10/10 in a genre I know I dislike, even if it still looks and sounds cool. Gameplay matters, but as for whether or not it's got the best implementation of its mechanics ever isn't really the point, and I feel like that's greatly overvalued around here.
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>>720037742
This isn't a bad opinion. This is literally the most logical deduction.
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>>720033723
If a game has a shota protagonist it's guaranteed kino
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holy shit we get it, stop spamming the board with shitty silksong threads. Make a /vg/ gen and fuck off
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>>720095489
Are you both female and over the age of 30? If so, holy based.
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>>720093917
I can appreciate what you and the rest are saying about movies games being fine, cause there can be enjoyment to be found in them if you are in the position to enjoy them. But say that GoW or whatever is a beloved franchise to you, and you're seeing the new installment become a movie game and immediately recognize that this game isn't for you. The dev is forging forward for new demographics and presenting something that you can't enjoy because on a gameplay level it's unrecognizable. Imagine if Capcom announced Mega Man 12, and it looked like Detroit: Become Human?
Then bitterness influences the fear that the sales will influence devs to just churn out movie games instead of something they'd find interesting, or they hate the developers and production for making the game a sociopolitical message, or any assortment of reasons to blame the gameplay format over what really pisses them off, the rape of their beloved franchise. And with the general sense of malaise for the vidya industry on this board, it's easy to just say it all sucks.
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I enjoyed Starfield and think it's a good but flawed game, I dont understand the absolute vitriol and hatred it gets when there are worse games out there.
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>>720033723
Rockstar is washed up and GTA5 and RDR 2 are mediocre games that try to wow you with production value and "realism" despite their core gameplay being uninspired, overly easy and repetitive. Once open worlds stopped being unique and cool they completely lost any value.

Competitive online multiplayer games shouldn't exist and the resources used to develop them should have been allocated towards single player games.

Eve from Stellar Blade isn't attractive, her face looks uncanny and fake and her default haircut is dumb.
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>>720093917
MGS5 is proof that nobody really cares for gameplay first because MGSV has some of the best gameplay especially for an action stealth game and we're still seeing other games straight up copying it's gameplay systems because it's done so well. The story for the game is shit because it's been cut short but it's the ultimate proof that story compels people to play games and gameplay alone cannot carry a game no matter how good it is.
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>>720035086
Whether silksong is good or not, you still are shit at games.
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>>720033948
Nobody gives a shit about disabled characters in games set in a fictional world. It's when they stick a brave and stunning legless tranny running around the frontlines of the second world war that people get rightly miffed.
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>>720097145
You shouldn't let woke shit work you up so much, cause you end up saying silly shit. Not him, but it's not always played for Muh Stunning & Brave Blackrock Good Goy points. Sekiro is another example, the guy loses his arm and gets a prosthetic loaded with ninja abilities. DMC5 had Nero with a similar robot arm. MGSV had one that tied into the narrative in a way that wasn't woke. Many such cases.
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>>720033723
Localization has a place in videogames. There's definetly an argument to be had against those who have subverted the practice like troons and failed writers, but letting your opinion be dictated by niggers like MangaLawyer, Chibireviews and similar channels downplays any legitimate criticism you may had.
I think what pisses me off the most is that many /v/irgins gets easily swayed by retards like these when the only thing they want from you is engagement for revenue and you retards keep giving them attention.
Speaking of xitter, don't even get me started on how most OC gets shunned or reposted by those jeets like RockSoilid or PirateNation. HIroshiMoot should watermark the whole site with slurs or find someway to sacre them away.
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>>720033723
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate kinda sucks compared to both the games before and after it.
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I don't care about how they changed Bridget and I don't think it matters at all. I never play arcade modes in fighting games, so if it wasn't for all the controversy, I would literally have never known about it. In fact, I really like the character, and I hate that such a cute and optimistic character has been the center of a culture war because he makes me happy and all the internet bullshit has kinda ruined him for me.
Also, Guilty Gear Strive is the only good Guilty Gear game. I say this as a Street Fighter fan, and it's probably why I think it. +R and Xrd are both way too spastic for me to follow and enjoy. The weight, speed, and pacing of Strive is just so much more satisfying, and I think it's why it's the most popular and successful Guilty Gear game ever. It does get minus points for the worse aesthetic, though. I don't play Strive very much, and I hope the next GG game is even better and has a real ranked mode, because I would play it day 1 if so.
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>>720095489
Shota main characters + hot voluptuous mommy side character that follows him around and has a master/servant relationship with him = Guaranteed peak. >>720091642
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>>720033948
Malenia is a cool example. In any case, to fulfill your prosthetic fantasies a bit, get a huge strap on, then get fucked with it.
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>>720099738
Oh, and another came to mind: yeah, yeah, I know SFV had a shit life cycle, is kinda ugly (depends on the character, really), and some characters have stronger V Triggers than others, but I think SFV feels great and is one of the best Street Fighter games. The roster is pretty good, the art style really works for some of the characters, and it has such snappy controls. I don't really play it anymore because it's a dead game, but I like it. I mostly just play 3rd Strike nowadays. And, if you have a problem with balancing issues in SFV, then you have NO place to say that 3rd Strike is the best SF / fighting game ever. I can guarantee you that most people who say it is will also shit on SFV for having problems.
SF6 is fucking dogshit by the way. Not a hot take, I just wanted to reiterate it.
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>>720033723
>Sometimes I just want to chill out and experience a new story without having to giga-brain every second
Alright but then why not watch a show, a movie, some anime, read a book or whatever long-form prose you prefer, read a comic or manga or whatever? Why play garbage where they gameplay is crappy and unimportant anyway, yet at the same time gets in the way by interrupting the story? I can understand some interest in movie games as a novelty, I had this interest too in the PS3 days when the modern form of the movie game kinda started out, but after playing a few of them and seeing how shallow and uninteresting the actual game parts are, it was impossible for my interest to persevere.

>>720067592
Gone Home was never called a movie, it was called a walking simulator and that term still exists and sticks to this day.

Movie games are called movie games because they ALWAYS prioritize cinematics and presentation over gameplay mechanics and gameplay quality despite still actually having gameplay. Movie games aren't walking simulators, they're games where the gameplay is heavily compromised because it's clearly a 5th class citizen, games which feel like the developers REALLY wanted to make an actual movie but they couldn't hack it in that industry so they now begrudgingly add bad, compromised gameplay to their movie ideas so they can push some product out the door.
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>>720099979
Warborn is my favourite track
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>>720033723
Hollow Knight is garbage.
it's poolry drawn, poorly animated, poorly designed.
it's an inferior copy of SotN and doesn't even have the modern improvements you'd expect.



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