More competitive StarCraft: Brood War coming your way.We are now in the round of 16 of Afreeca Starleague Season 20. Today's Group A:Soulkey (Z)BarrackS (T)EffOrt (Z)Rush (T)Korean livestream: https://play.sooplive.co.kr/afstar1English livestream: https://www.sooplive.com/sctvenSpanish livestream: https://www.sooplive.com/sctvespoficialJapanese livestream: https://www.sooplive.com/sctimesLiquipedia page:https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/ASL/20
Stream starts in 5 minutes.How are we feeling, Barracksbros???
Oh boy I'm so glad that all the analysts said this season's maps would make zerg sufferI'm happy we won't see another bunch of games of soulkey making hydras and winning
Soundtrack:For Zerg Chads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3dLS_QgWxMFor Terrannies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_S0qCeA-pcFor Tossers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3z54SZsLsA
>>720115083KnockOut is the funniest map, since people were theorizing it'd put an end to hydra bust. And it kinda did, but it also made lurker contains so much fucking stronger it's insane.I think the wild card remaining is Roaring Currents, so far we've seen so little official ASL matches on that map that I can't really comment. But I don't exactly watch a lot of ladder games played on that map, so we'll just have to wait and see.
LETS GOOOOOO
>>720115230At this point I'm not even sure what map makers need to do to fix itI'd say stop making maps where zerg gets a super easy third base with gas that can't be contested because of ramp chokes, it's shitty that ever since Fighting Spirit almost every map follows the same template but tweaks things, I think the "free natural into obvious third base" route is so overplayed at this point. Good zergs will just ride the muta harass into lurker defense up until they get wiggly bois and autowin, and nothing that T or P can do can reliably beat it.
>>720115230Zerg Chads seldom attempt proper busts now, and Tossers have gotten pretty good at defending them, to be honest. Nowadays, it's more fake bust or delayed "bust" with spire first. No idea what the map makers are putting up their asses to come up with this crap. The ditch on Knockout helps Z defend against T marine a-moves, regardless.
our guy
>https://play.sooplive.co.kr/afstar1not working for me anymorehttps://www.sooplive.com/asl seems to be the new channel
Soulkey will job today, I beleb
Effort looks so busted, Jesus.
>>720115492Really? I clicked on it and it directed me to the stream just fine.
>>720115539Oh shit that *is* him. For a second I thought that was some player I did not recognise.
bruh
>korean skincare
>>720115737Very expensive. More expensive than Japanese skincare/haircare/cosmetics.
Group C is the spiciest of the lot.
EN stream is like a solid minute behind
>>720115635For a second I thought there was a hydralisk on stage, but then I realized it was Effort.
>soulkey death-staring at the screen>barracks with the downcast gaze
he already knows the result
Let's go Soulkey!
I feared they had axed HKLee, but she's off for maternity leave. yes, she's having a child at like 37.
LET'S FUCKING GO BARRACKS
>>720116032korean science is truly remarkable
Does anyone know what happened last year for the Ladies League? They seem to have shut it down, with Denzie going back to Scotland. My guess is that Afreeca and others pulled money from the Ladies leagues and put them into Uni leagues?
>>720116078I don't care about low level play, but it looks like its still happeninghttps://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Ladies_AfreecaTV_StarCraft_League
>>720116041Reminder that Flash is his coach which is why he's improving.
I miss the soundproof booths.
VALKS LETS GO
soulkey's mutas need overtime pay
EAT SHIT SOULKEY
nice
HOLY SHITTHANK YOU FLASH!
LOLLMAOWHERE ARE YOUR HYDRAS NOW
KINO
>Shartkey>Do nothing with mutas>Lose
>attackmove 12 marines from the front>winand they say zerg is overpowered
Holy fuck DAMN that was such a tight timing from Barracks. Like, literally, if his marine+medic+valk ball was late by like 10 seconds then Soulkey can hold with ease since he'd have extra sunks+scourge. Magnificent play.
Did SK get too greedy, bank too much on the mutas, and have too little at home to defend? He didn't even have his sunkens ready. His build was pure greed and banking on harassment to cripple Barracks.
>>720116424only because shitkey had all of his mutas dropped to half before the push even happened because he walked into 2 valks
Of course terran did an all-in
>>720116435It would have worked 10 seconds later, considering that shitkey only started panic building sunks when the marines moved out
I thought for sure SK had his sunkens already build considering his faggot bitch style.
>>720116441Honestly he just played an honest game and didn't expect Terran to play dishonest. But Terrans always do. Like they can't play macro anymore
Too passive with the mutas, really.
SAAR PLEASE REDEEM
>>720116550>surely the map makers creating every single map catered to my playstyle will save m-ACK
>>720116541usually mutas delay marines to buy time but with valks on the field it was not an option
>>720116605Also the bases were really close to each other.
>>720116439Even the plastic was better in the olden days.
>>720116605I think zergs have been playing too honest for way too long. Terrans always wanna end the game early with all-ins and cheese. So if it's not early cheese, it's pre-hive cheese.
SCTV has the faggiest commentators ever. Saiyan KCM is a base boy and the other fag is whowever.
>>720116441normally you can defend sunkens with mutas but rush went valks and soulkey didn't see it until rush's two valks were moving out
>>720116761Yeah this, if Soulkey knew there were valks he'd have made adjustments. Unfortunately, Barracks did well to hide his 2 valks until he was ready to push out.
>>720116748saiyan is fine but XUN is the epitome of shitty color commentary"oh I don't have anything to say let me start throwing out tired sports jargon that wore thin in the fucking 80s when ESPN was sucking Jordan's dick"
god, i love effort
>attacking me before 20 minutes, 4 bases, lurkers, defilers and dark swarm?>DISHONESTY
>>720116842Please. Terran players see a few defilers and they all fall apart
>>720116835Who do you like more: effort or action?
>Rush wins this one>SK fights for survival in ZvZ
>>720116920>I must sacrifice 6 science vessels to eraser 5 drones then switch to battlecruisers on 3 base
BASED TERRANSELIMINATE ALL ZERGS
>>720116842NONONO YOU MUST LET ME PLAY SIMCITY
UH OH ZERGSISSIES
TOTAL ZERG DEATH
>>720116960ZvZ is easier than ZvT.
Bruh I swear if Terrans win this with pure cheese I'm gonna stop watching BW
>>720117053For Soulkey? No of course not. Have you seen his winrate? His TvZ is his strength.
So....uhhhh, was that bunker rush worth it?Did it achieve much aside from making effort waste larva on zerglings and a sunk?
>>720117083For every Zerg. Always has been. He has a 50% record since he has played fewer Zergs since getting good.
>rush choosing a personal theme just so the words "can you feel the rush" are broadcastAbsolutely fucking cheesy.
get fucked bugman
>>720117149no it was a bad decision
:D
>just walk into zerg base>he instantly diesit's that easy
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>>720117149it was worth it, Z still doesn't have a thirdhe would have run out with economy too much without the rush
Why the fuck aren't the zerg players ready for the cheese? Terrans suck nowadays. They CAN'T play macro games
>Effort or SK eliminatedFucking what? Holy shit. Rush and Barracks getting out is hilarious.
>he wanted a piece of him
>>720116960LETS FUCKING GOOOO
>>720117168It's peak nerd-kino.I would've done something similar if I were to compete.>>720117240>Effort or SK eliminatedNot yet bro, none are eliminated yet.
>>720117225>attackmove marines from the front>cheeseNo, cheese is having zero defenses and tech rushing to defiler. Honest terrans are punishing the zerg cheese.
>rush barracks winners match
>>720117240See: >>2134972Soulkey and Rush are making it.
>>720117240>>720117264Oh wait no, my bad, I misread your post. I thought you said Effort AND SK. Oops.Carry on.
>>720117149Yes, he lost very few SCvs and marines, his barracks survived and floated back to his main base. Meanwhile Effort lost lings and drones, and had to make several sunkens, and cancel a macro hatchery.
nigger just make units it's not that hard
>>720117272Bunker rush was always too strong
>zvz>tvturgh, i think i'm gonna call it a day
>>720117314NO
>>720117384>not there to witness SK eating shityour loss bud
A nice 45 minute Terranny on Terranny game to let Soulkey ponder.
are we ready?
effort just needs to pull off a miracle, then ASL is saved
man has never built a hydra in his life
>>720117264After looking into the lyrics a bit more it's even worse. I'm actually choking on my drink with just how perfect it is.Cheeky fucker.
>>720117508i don't think it would be all that surprising really, effort is the better player but zvz is like a knife fight on a slippery surface
>Flash the hired assassinHe's coaching Barracks, and giving him builds. He gave him a good build and a timing to kill SK.
T V T
>the secret lost ancient technology art of building units to punish your opponent who thinks the lobby said nr30
>>720117885Nobody tell Artosis Terran is the most OP BS race in the game and all you gotta do is cheese to win. But that's what terran retards do every time
>mogged in marine microit's over
>tvtMore like cvc. Cheese vs cheese
TOTAL SCV DEATH
i like da racecar
beautiful matchup
>>720118104True.
>>720116957i don't like action
terrans slowly realizing that they don't need to go massive tank lines in tvt because every terran unit is just as overpowered, vultures and goliaths included
o7
>>720118304Extremely true.
>>720118309
>>720118309The one on the right is actually cute.Also miss the chairforce.
>>720118309all 3 got the nose surgery, am I right?
>>720118376fugg :D
>>720118482the left one is obviously the cutest
most of koreans are ugly and deformed thanks to being a cumdumpster for chinese, mongolians and other more powerful asiatic tribes for the last millenia
>>720118491>all 3 got the nose surgery, am I right?middle: yes. Asians do not have those tiny euro noses naturally.
He's gonna take the tourney and get the girl
siege mode didnt make
>>720118491Dunno, the middle obviously is the most plastic but even she doesn't seem to have overdone it. Left and right look fairly natural.
Why not use that high ground ledge to squeeze the tanks in the choke? Why siege on the low ground?
*pew*
>>720118651I don't think koreans are handsome at all.
barracksbros...
>mfw no one cares about tvtAs it should be.
>wake up>9:30pm>oh boy I'm early enough to see Korea time>Barracks is getting fucked
>>720119165they're taking a long time to start the third game
Are you sure it was Flash that was coaching barracks, and not Fantasy?
>>720119305Underrated.
>>720118676>Left and right look fairly natural.Left guaranteed has some eye surgery going on.
>>720119305he wasn't wrong to not gg, he just didn't know that the 4th base had started mining
>>720119365I feel like they are just mostly using that thing that pushes the skin in or something. I have no idea how it works but it looks kinda unpleasant.
>siege mode didnt make>again
>>720119778it was totally worth making wraith instead to kill 1 scv
Terran players never gg...
>>720120164because TvT is never a good game
bruh your main is on fire, just leave
>x/138 supplyjust tap out my man
BARRACKSGODS
>tfw potential 200 iq deliberate loss from soulkey so he makes sure both rush and effort are eliminated
>Barracks done for today>all cute girls leaving
>>720120594Flash helping Terran players from beyond the grave
>>720120704>korea>cute girlslol
Easy 2-0 for Soulkey, both Effort and Rush.
>no mini
God damn everyone is so fucking old
>tvt>zvzThis group was nothing but cheese and ended up with same race matchups. Worst group ever
>>720120820I think Effort can potentially take him. This isn't a write-off yet.
>>720120972The all z group was pure kino
DISHONESTY
>>720121005>all busted plastic whoresbring back the previous whores
>>720121021Check refer to rule 475 of KOREA TIME. "ZVZ can only be called "pure kino" if it's late game." Please and thank you
/scv/ is back onesixtwo.club/scv/
>>720120894this thread brings me backthough i dont recognize any of these gooks playing
kek what a shit show
>SoulKey
SOULKEY WHEN HE CAN'T JUST MAKE HYDRALISKYOU LOVE TO SEE IT
No food for you this winter, SHITkey
How the hell did effort get so far ahead?
BASEDKEK OUT
SOULKEY CAN WIN THISHE CAN PULL THROUGHI BELIEVE IN SOULKEY
>tfw you find the hidden base he had the entire game
>He never saw itHOLY SHIT. OLD, WASHED UP HASBEEN
>>720121459>>720121471He saw the creep with the overlord at the beginning, retards.
Come on, we all know that SK will win every game from now on and advance. He always comes back. Always.
>>720121520He missed it completely
>>720121447sk had to build evo/sunks/spores because he thought effort was doing a one base play
>golly gee guys I've got this game in the bag, the only thing I can lose to is a hidden base>no I'm not going to scout for it
>>720121124I never want /scv/ back, that general is beyond cursed
>>720121520that only makes him even more retarded
>>720121520creep doesn't show up one the map, it's possible he missed it because it was at the very edge of overlord vision
S-s-stop shitting on Soulkey guys, it's very rude....
>>720121579he did though, he was looking for it over the whole map with zerglings, effort just took the most unlikely base
>ZvZ on LitmusOh yeah I'm feeling this one.
>>720121647Taste my blade, soilkey
>>720115649>bruhyou dont belong here you broccoli haired faggot
man this makes me so nostalgic. I used to wake up super early and catch the re-streams in TeamLiquid before going to school. never played broodwar myself but loved it. then got into sc2.makes me itch to get into sc2/bw but prob not worth it nowadays, might as well play chess or a fighting game if I want the 1v1 experience
CAHMON SOULKEYKILL SOME FUKKEN DROBES*BANG BANG BANG*
Soulkeybros.......not like this.....
>soulkey
HOLY what a dogfight
Why not just use those scourge on Overlords at this point and supply gate him?
>10 mins>both Zergs still on one base*siiiip*Ahhh now this is some true bullshit ZvZ.
>>720122063desu those are double gas bases
Late game ZvZ! Ultras, devourers and mass hydra soon! Trust the plan!
>>720122087I like it. Makes the matchups spicier, but time will tell how it affects racial bases.Also in case some anons don't know, those double gas have less gas than normal. So they run out quicker.
FUCKThis shit is making me nervous, each Muta on Muta engagement has me on seat's edge,
SOULKEY OUT
yay!!!
ASL is savedskeker eliminated
>>720121647Kneel
GET FUCKED SOULCÚCKASL IS SAVED
EFFORT DOUBTERS
It's ogre
I don't get why soulkey didn't expect cheese in the first game. I can't think of the last late game Terran won. It's been years at least
THAT'S THE OSL CHAMP DIFFERENCE BABYGET FUCKED SOULKEY
Holy shit Effort won.I'll be 100% honest, I still like Soulkey and would've liked him to be in top 4 regardless, even if I'm rooting more for other players to win 1st place. A shame, honestly.
based effort
It's over.
EFFORTLESS VICTORY
>couldn't avoid ONE zvz for a change>gets knocked outwhat a loser
>>720122207I squeal, I kneel,My headcanon isn't real.
>4.999999 ASL championships >play ZvZ once (1)>die
>>720122256>EFFORTLESSEffort is clearly there, dumb-dumb.
>effort beats Flash>twice>effort beats 4-time ASL championYeah I'm thinking effort is the real all-time goat
>>720122314Effort's like the best ZvZer in the world though
let's hope Effort remembers to make units this time
I actually can't predict this upcoming Effort vs Rush matchup. I don't know who is favoured.
kneel
A reminder that Soulkey was seeded into RO16, so this was his first day in ASL. His record for this entire ASL: 0-3
>>720122427effort was up and coming back then but blizzard had already started trying to kill bw and proleague/osl/msl were stopped and stuffwho knows where he would rank, i mean he's still awesome all these years later and i've always really enjoyed the way he plays
>pink terran>white zergkino already
>>720122637Dying to valk-all in was so stupid. It's been Terran's favorite cheese ever since dropships started getting blocked by zerg players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aw-42JO3qkthe good old days
I highly recommend the group selection video. First key moment in Soulkey's demise is he picks Barracks over Sharp for some inexplicable reason knowing full well Barracks is more dangerous to him. 2nd Effort makes a brilliant pitch to Barracks promising him he will pick a Zerg and effectively sabotage the group for Soulkey.Soulkey makes a counter-offer which is refused by Effort.The key was always to double-Zerg SK's group but there was never enough qualified Zergs to even make that happen.
>>720122734shouldn't have been so greedy
Okay I've got one question: in that last game, near the end when both Soulkey and Effort were nearly match-for-match equal in supply (was like 41/42 for both), why did Soulkey fly the whole way to Effort's base and start an engagement? Did he have less drones and figured he would be outgunned in the long-run? I'm trying to figure out why he didn't play defensive at that point in the game, I'm missing some detail for sure.
>>720122793he was trying to sneak in a second base in the lower left, maybe he wanted to pin effort back? or maybe he realized just how much gas he had wasted on scourge without getting the value and therefore was getting more and more behind, i mean he also had to build an evo and spore
>>720122789If zerg plays safe they lose tho
>blocks you're path
>>720122793Effort is really good at zvz and was already in the lead. Also got a free muta kill with a couple of scourge, any muta lead leads to victory in zvz. In the big fights you barely do any micro
TOTAL MARINE DEATH
-2 zergsinsallah
BIO BALL BORDELAISE
ENTER
effort is so good
how the fuck does he afford defilers and guardians at the same time
>>720123341Peak optimisation.
>marines run up>zerglings gone because they buriedkek
>one burried ling blocking the base whole gamekek
what's it like to be a dmatrixed marine
outclassed
>>720123341Guardians of all things got nerfed back in the day, that's why they take so long to build
>effort doesn't know how to use ultra+lingCows in first to tank, lings after to spank. Come on this is 2000 knowledge.
>>720123580Chew 5 gum and you'll find out.
>>720123580imagine getting stuck in an ultralisk's mouth and getting chewed on but you can't die for a minute
>>720123341Show me the money
>>720123616>Not having the micro to target the lings
Flash should just retire forever, he will never make it past ro16 now.
>>720123653>>720123620marines are 5 gum
>>720123823go to bed, soulkey
[Good News]Effort made units
>when the early terran/medic cheese doesn't work outTerran fans. Your response?
ggs!
>>720124208transition into woman
>make units>winwtf was it always that easy?
I'm very happy with the resultsToday was a good day, see you losers tomorrow
rush is a bit too aggressive for his own good although i enjoy his style
I'm just happy Soulkey got rekt so the finals might not be boring this season
>>720124309>soulkey out, barracks inAgreed. Today was a good day.
>Soulkey out>no clear favorite anymoreso anon, who's (You)r GOAT?
>>720124208Blizzard needs to buff Terran.
check em
>>720124471Good chance>Snow>Soma>Queen>LightPossible>Mini>Best>Sharp>BisuPossible but don't get your hopes up>Larva>BTSHe's fugged>JaedongPersonally I think it'll be Snow. He's consistently gotten really far each tournament only to get fucked by Soulkey. He still might die because Sharp and Mini are both really good, but he's got a pretty good chance.
>>720124471
>>720124682Artosis says Jaedong is great right now
>>720124471>My HeartJaedong, zero, barracks after seeing him today, bisu>My mindhonestly I have no clue, it really could be anyone, I'm going to guess some zerg though because maps are incredibly imbalanced towards zerg
>>720124785>"Old Jaedong Is Back", Says Increasingly Nervous Man For Seventh Time This Year
>>720124785>>720125125dongs style just doesn't work as well against modern meta and you can definitely see that he's become slower with age
>>720124471>HeartBarracks, Larva>BrainEffort, Soma
>>720124471I want Snow to win so bad. SK out is very good for him. His group should also be fun to watch but I don't know if he can go the distance. Protoss needs a hero
>>720124471I believe Snow is the best current player. But if the map pool is really zerg favored them maybe Queen/Soma/Effort have better odds.Best/Snow/Sharp/Soma have been top players for a long time and never won anything, so it would be appropriate for one of them to win. In particular I like Best.It would also be cool to see Jaedong/Bisu, although that seems unlikely.Personally I'm rooting for Mini.
