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how are there so many blunt weapon variations? wouldn't there be single optimal shape useful in all situations?
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smiths like to flex
see the flamberge
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>>720115326
>wouldn't there be single optimal shape useful in all situations
/k/ would throw a fit over this lmao
basically not only "no" but HELL no.
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>>720115326
Krauts seem to love their hammers.
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>>720115326
throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks
plus customized heraldry in ceremonial/mark of rank weapons for wealthy individuals
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I love flanged maces.
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>>720115403
at least with the flamberge i could somewhat see a benefit, because you're effectively getting a greater stabbing width by the wave pattern right?
>>720115535
they always seemed like the best shape. basically tons of support so it doesn't chip, but still able to concentrate tons of force in one spot to crumple armor.
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>>720115326
What the fuck are you about? They are all doing blunt damage. Except the pickaxes doing piercing damage.
In VIDEO GAMES.
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>>720115535
If you love them so much why don't you marry one?
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>>720115326
>why are there so many rifle variations, wouldn't there be a single optimal bullet shape useful in all situation?

this is how stupid you sound
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*blocks your path*
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>>720115326
because Blunt weapons are awesome and they deserve and need more variety than blades.
Pick hammer with top spike > Pick hammer > Sledgehammer > Rod flail > Flanged mace > Club > Staff > Spiked ball flail > Spiked mace > Knobbed mace > Round mace
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>>720115535
>>720115578
Flanged mace is the best mace shape against armor, but round maces are cheaper and easier to produce.
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>>720115730
>round mace that low
return to ball
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>>720115326
they eventually arrived at the hammer and nail as seen in the picture
nail for stripping and hacking away at layers of plate armor, hammer for blunt damage
before plate armor other forms were more optimal
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>>720115490
There is it's called a 4ft diameter chunk of lead accelerated to 99% the speed of light
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>>720115704
Harry Potter isn't real >>>/tv/
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>>720115949
yeah sorry my 2 ft tungsten one punched through your lead one.
I win.
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>>720115326
they have different prayer bonuses
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>>720115868
They serve different purposes.
Hammers take some more training than maces to use because edge allignment and a spiked, knobbed or round mace is much cheaper than a flanged mace.
So while a hammer is indeed better for a knight in heavy armor, a spiked or knobbed mace would be a much better weapon in the hand of muggers and street thugs.

>>720115979
That's a bar mace.
Honestly, I have no idea what exactly the advantage of a bar mace is over a top heavy mace but they habe been used historically so there has to be some advantage of them. Maybe a less-lethal weapon for capturing enemies alive?
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>>720116128
i was thinking maybe they're used by guards to move people away from an establishment, like drunkards near a castle. they'd just whack em and tell them to fuck off without worrying bout a lethal blow. basically like a police baton but more painful i assume.
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>>720115326
What are some games that feature disc maces?
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>>720117232
I literally forgot that disc maces exist.
One of the most forgettable melee weapons.
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>>720115326
At the end of the day its the strength of your swing and skill with that are important.
All would do the same thing against good plate, not much. But the man inside is less durable than what's he's wearing and not everyone owns good armor.
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Why make blunt weapons at all? What makes those weapons useful is their mass and its distribution. They wouldn't lose any power if instead of a dull edge they were sharp. And axe can do everything a mace can, and more.
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>>720115326
Much as it is today, it was an arms race. Ever better weapons taking on ever better armors. Until someone develops a new tech which makes the previous generation completely obsolete, and the race begins anew.
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me?
i likey the spikey
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>>720115658
Got em
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>>720118789
accuracy i guess. you can eyeball a mace hit, but an axe not so much. you still need to align the edge with your target or you'll miss.
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>>720115326
Well there's more to it. Hammers have a more concentrated point, as well as a spike in the back for penetrating gaps in armor. AKA what is actually good at getting through armor.
Meanwhile the mace is omnidirectional to make it easier to connect with while on horseback. As it's intended role was as a backup weapon for the calvary when their lances were damaged.
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>>720118789
Do brownoids really?
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>>720115326
Consider that there was no instantaneous exchange of information back then
People passed on weapon properties and modified them like recipes in a cookbook rather than a science of war
Back then you would learn smiting from some master who hopefully knew what he was doing and then you repeated what he told you until one day you maybe figure out a way to do it better, if you're really unlucky you didn't even have a master and just worked off descriptions people gave you or an example of the finished product without having seen the creation process
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>>720119474
Most "science" that HEMA retards apply today to justify how some weapons were used are a very educated guess at best, too.
Sometimes a certain stick worked very well in killing given how a certain group had access to materials and they kept using it for centuries until it got replaced or they got conquered.
Unfortunately not everything is recorded in manuals, what little is recorded is sometimes unclear and even these manuals might be just a very specific kind of training and use for them.
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>>720119673
This so much! FUCK HEMA! I wish we could just go back to slapping eahc other with weapons until one combatant drops dead like in the good old stone ages.
Hema is stupid fancy clown shit.
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>>720115868
>stripping and hacking away at layers of plate armor
wat
>horseman's pick
>used by cavalry
>used as a means to penetrate thick plate armour or mail which the standard sword could not
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>>720116128
>>720116315
Bar mace were used by knights.
Came about during when most mace heads were still attached to wooden handles. Its a more heavy duty weapon.



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