Was gaming really better in the '90s or is it just boomer nostalgia?
Or.
>>720132010it wasnt that gaming was betterbut that the world was brighter and its people more human
>>720132010boomer nostalgia combined with a pre-9/11 world
>>720132010yespeople made video games, not gaas always online shit
>>720132010it really was better. you'll never know, videos will never capture the feeling, you grew up in a significantly worse world, it will never get better, and no amount of social media posting or complaining about unc will change that fact. you know your childhood was fucked and it eats away at you.
>>720132010It's just nostalgia. I lived through it and it was nothing special, just different. Going to blockbuster after dinner on a friday, grab a game or two and some movies for the weekend. Go home and do the same shit I do on the weekend now. Having a family is what makes the difference not the things you're doing.
My kids do the same thing except for Blockbuster.We go out and grab pizza (I refuse to pay for delivery), TCG is as popular as ever and they play minecraft or wwe 2k at the xbox.I played WWF No Mercy at the N64.
>>720132398So you grew up in a vastly superior world that you took away from future generations by making all media gay and lame? That's tubular dude!
Need to add smash bros and mario party
>>720132010“The 90s” is a red herring. The true turning point was when Roblox and Fortnite became the standard-bearers for what a “video game” was. No longer is it a singular experience with a contained story and gameplay mode that could be considered an art. A “video game” in 2025 is a casino or a store. You put money in and, depending on how charitable the devs are, you either get a skin or the chance to win one. So “video games” in 2025 are directly comparable with video slot machines. Any prior era, including the 2000s and 2010s, is valid, as well as any game released in 2025 which still adheres to the old ways.
>>7201333619/11 took is into the bad timeline
>>720132010everything was better
>>720133361and you're doing nothing but accepting it
everything gets worse with age, not due to the technologic capabilities but because of the loss of the social element.For example: >real play with friends vs strangers who are effectively bots, you are effectively an isolated bot, a faceless non human.
Having less choices made everything better
I don't know if I would say its better or worse, just different.There are things kids have the luxury of now that we didn't when we were younger like online play, but in the same vein playing games with friends felt like more of an "event" you would pack up your PS2 and a few games and go chill at their house for a sleepover. Honestly I don't think its a post 9/11 thing I think it's a post convenience thing. You would still go to blockbuster, rent out games/movies and everything felt more eventful until the mid 2010's where watching a movie meant Netflix, buying a game meant digital storefront and getting snacks meant Deliveroo/doordash.
>>720133547There is no understating the invincible mindset of America pre 9/11. The general notion that things were on an upward trajectory and that future prosperity was simple inevitability. I remember my dad describing a panic attack walking back from church a month or so after 9/11. A vague fear of another attack even though we lived in the middle of fucking nowhere. Millennial kids were disturbed sure, but Boomers were fucking mindbroken. America was meant to be untouchable. They never dreamed otherwise.
>>720132154Tragically and unironically thisWhat happened to us? Where did it all go so wrong?
>>720132010Games were made by people who liked playing games. As odd as it may seem, and I know it may sound strange, but it led to games being good.
>>720132010who the fuck has notalgia for things that were worse?of course it was betterbut I don't have nostalgia for the bad things of the 90s, like the slow internet
>>720133165Yes very good, Saar, to be doing the bwesful at n64.
>>720135051the internet is what ruined everything
>>720135531This. Gaming was a lot more fun/social of a hobby when you didn't just have the internet to look everything up. Local multiplayer will always be more fun than online too.
It's actually mind blowing how bad most big budget games are now. I decided to try out psplus so I could download a bunch of that shit and my God they're all fucking horrible. Pacing, movement, writing, presentation, gameplay, it's insane how bad it's gotten.
A sobering thought just came to meWould the things I grew up with even have the same magic they did for the kids of today? There's an arcade in my local mall, it's not the same arcade I knew as a child, but it's still an arcade. And it's decently popular given its size and place in the mall, but I can't help but think. Do the kids actually care? Is the fact an arcade existing at all even matter when they have full games on their phones now? Or can turn on a dozen different apps if they're bored? Sure I had a console back home, but being at an arcade always felt special to me, a place specfically made for video games that I would beg my parents to take me when given the chance?Does that feeling even exist now? Yeah, video games have changed, but I feel like something else has too, something more precious that never truely come back
>>720132010It was an infinitely better time. Culture was constantly moving forward with interesting, innovative fun ideas and it bled into games, shows, movies, books, and practically everything. Everything seemed fun and optimistic, and there were far fewer miserable bastards walking around hating life like now. As others have said, 9/11 was the beginning of the end. 2002 through 2010 was a slow decline, but around 2012/2013 it accelerated hard. We still haven’t reached the bottom yet, which I can only imagine being untold amounts of hardship, bloodshed, and general misery. We are truly in the infancy of the dark times which will probably last well beyond the lifespan of anyone using this site right now.
>>720132010>>720132236Whole game on-disc or on-cart. NO DLC. And if there were, they were full expansions. Oh, also, they didn't act as our tutors on trannies formerly just gays.Total zoomie annihilation.
>>720133361It's what you deserve
>>720135916I’ve been trying to tone down my contempt for zoomers. They’re a product of the world they were born into and raised in, which is older people know how much worse it is than what we had. I can only imagine being a zoomer is an act of constantly trying to find something worth believing in and living for. At least Millennials and Gen X had a full childhood and adolescence of positive experiences and a world that didn’t want them dead.
>>720132010this is so gay.i'm glad i was born in a post-9/11 world
>>720134735The internet.
>>720136239Bingo
>>720132010>90’s Millenial nostalgia slop >Its always 1998 or 1999I’ve never seen millennials nostalgic over anything before 1995
>>720135753Kind of hard for them to be impressed the way you were when they've got a phone in their pocket and an 80 inch tv with a switch at home, anon. It just hits different.
>>720132010somebody post the consoomer nostalgia picture with the child playing in his room surrounded by all the brands
what's the modern equivalent? face timing your friends while watching tiktok?
>>720132010>not psxyou didn't grow up in the 90's
>>720132154
>>720136473Exactly. It's not just the games, but the feelings they meant that are gone. The feeling for most things are gone. When things are just given to you, they have less value than if it was less common. Hence why so many things are dogshit now, there's no reverance for this stuff anymore, it's just one more thing to add to the ever growing plate of consumption, and once consumed never once thought about again.
>>720132010Nobody actually played the pokemon card game, kids just collected the cards
What was Playstation putting out then?What is Playstation putting out now?Food for thought.
>>720134735the internet. we're hyper aware of all the negative shit going on because that's what we're drawn to. people also realize we can go mask-off on the internet and that has revealed to everyone just how awful we truly are.
>>720136648>psxYou didn't grow up in the 90s.
>>720136154Did boomers ever approve of anything millennials did? It'll soon be their turn to beat up the following generation, gen beta. No, they're not alpha.>>720136648Some people actually skipped over the N64 for the PlayStation.
>>720132154Sort of this. We were just dumb kids back then who were obvious to how shitty the world really was, and we had other people to play with and went to cool looking places to get games instead of ordering them online
Being a kid in general is pretty great regardless of time period.>no real responsibilities except school>regularly see peers with as much free time as you>no real discriminating tastes so almost everything entertains you>your body isn’t slowly rottingWe can talk a lot about what’s legitimately changed since the 90s. In particular if you’re a burger it was a brief period of relative stability between the Cold War and 9/11. But the big thing is you were a kid then and an adult now.
>>720132410>It's just nostalgia.partly but not all of it. today's society, industry and games suck which is a fact.
>pokemon instead of yugioh Duel Masters should have won though.
>>720134735A whole bunch of factors.>9/11>Internet becoming mainstream>Troon and Jeet epidemic
>>720132154No, not really. You just werent hyper aware of all the terrible things happening all the time.Log off. Your day to day isnt that different
>>720132154I think you mean pre-9/11 bro
>>720136982>Duel Masters should have won though.They should've thought of that before making the dub so abysmally dogshit
>>720137106The dub is the best part!
>>720136970If you think all games suck you should kill yourself, or at the very least stop larping as older than 18. In the 90s there was just as much garbage coming out on a regular basis as today. Most games were shit with just a few leftover "gems" people keep pushing and have for years. Across 1985-2005 there's maybe 100 good games total. That's about 5 per year.
>>720132010No and you'll take notice these pictures are all about being a dumb kid, not video games. I can play a much wider variety of games now and I feel a greater level of passion for the games I'm playing now because I have a better understanding and can dissect and appreciate them. I am getting much more enjoyment from playing daioujou black label now than anything I played when I was a kid, which is typical for the games I play.Nothing is stopping you from booting up SM64 co-op DX and playing with people right now, with all sorts of cool ass mini games that make the game fun and fresh, and as recompiles continue to advance other n64 games will have match making as well. (but quite frankly srb2k is better than mk64, and theres tons of online fps better than golden eye) Like I remember a guy who shilled CSS here all the time (a terrible game) and he wasn't even playing it online apparently, he was just a schizo playing with bots all day that was nostalgic for extremely casual pubs. It's just sad man.
>>720137106Truthfully, it was never going to with the knockoff vibe. And the games were abysmal dogshit.But the actual TCG was pretty fun and soulful.
>>720132154Quit coping. Games were way better.
>>720137164>1985-2005 there's maybe 100 good games total. That's about 5 per year.wow, you must not like video games very much
>>720135531>>720135650This
>>720134735Short answer, jewsLong answer, the jews
>>720136405You pretty much have to go to /tv/ or /co/ for that one. Since most of the millennials here were likely born in like the late 80s to early 90s, most of what could be nostalgic over made prior to 1995 would have either been something that came out on the Super Nintendo or had to have been a rerun of a TV show or something
>>720137321But there were Jews in the 90s like Adam Sandler.
>>720132010fake pokemon card players, look at them holding the cards backwards, specially the kid on the left being all "oh! cool cards", he can't even see them
My neighbors wont let their kids come over to my house for a little couch co-op. Say they don't trust anybody who doesn't mow their lawn.
>>720136239>>720136847>>720137030The internet used to be more fun and lighthearted too. God forbid people actually use it to have fun, that an ounce of whimsy and creativity can bloom, and our lives weren't consumed by politics from every possible goddamn angle, that was mostly banter instead of actual hatred between each other.
>>720137425gee it's almost like mom wanted them to pose for the picture
>>720136982Yu-Gi-Oh really didn't take off until it became about the cards with Volume 8.>>720137208All Duel Masters had to do was have ALL the girl characters with HUGE boobs and nipple bumps. They did have one with somewhat big boobs, but they held back. Dumbfucks. But they did live on in JAPan.
>>720136405Doom 1 released on December 10th, 1993
>people still mostly listen to music from the 80-90's>even younger people and mainstream radio just play older music>I can't even name 5 songs released after 2020You can claim it's nostalgia or whatever, but do you seriously think 20-30 years from now people will be nostalgic for music made in the 2020`s?
>>720132010make your own memories instead of complaining about ours. why aren't you talking about things that were great when you were growing up? you don't need to vicariously live through older generations.what vidya did you play growing up?
>>720137504There's no room for fun when you're obsessed with spamming shitty casual games and stupid shitposts all day. People can't loosen up when there's an ape in room.
>>720137635taylor will be the new madonna in a decade
Things have only been getting worse in the west since for over 80 years so probably.>.t zoomer
>>720137713I have never heard a single Taylor song in the radio
>Democratic President in the 90s>Republican President now
>>720137773that's quite impressive anon.
>>720132010Keep in mind, not every game out back then was the OOT, Goldeneye, SM64 classics we all think of think of immediately today. There was tons of shovelware trash and absolute garbage. If you rented some shit like that horrible Batman Beyond game from blockbuster, that might've been all you had for the whole weekend. Might as well go play outside. I do miss the days of unlockable content, cheat codes, and splitscreen multiplayer though.
>>720137778don't look up who the president was during the 2k recession
>>720137639>what vidya did you play growing up?Fortnite
>>720132010tekken, smash bros, fifa, ape escape, streets of rage or sonic 2 2 player mode with brother, or just simply play with Action Man or Street Sharks
>>720137878you really couldn't go wrong with cover shopping n64 games.
>>720132010>I "hamburgerd" your sisterI don't get it
>>720137635I take the 2008 obliteration of the "True Colors" song by the Black Eyed Peas as the true beginning of the demise of music. It would be butchered beyond death from being about Billy's own mother when the gays suddenly went "THIS WAS ALWAYS ABOUT ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME SAY I'M COOL"
Immigration and jewsCan't speak for Americans, but nearly all of Europe is totally ruined in just a few decades because of immigration. It's actually baffling how most countries in Europe has gone to shit after being such great places in such a short time.
>>720138015>Rent Doom64 and end up with Bubsy 3DI think this is a perfectly valid reason to seethe and mald
>>720137929This is probably a shitpost, but it's depressingly accurateWill gen-Alpha even have nostalgia for other games besides Fortnite and whatever flavor of the week "friendslop" is trending? At least Zoomers had shit like the lego games and Wii Sports to break up their Minecraft obessionWhat does gen alpha have now?
>>720138389Add Roblox and misc phone games, GTA Online (in current form) and GTA 6 whenever that drops as well.
>>720136835Anon, what do you mean by just given to you? You as a child did nothing to deserve the arcade.
>>720137878we had gaming magazines to give us an idea of what to pick
>>720136840This was me. I liked the idea of the Pokemon TCG and I knew the rules but I never had enough of the fucking energy cards to actually run a deck with any of the cards I had so I just collected them instead
>>720137635IIRC something like 90% of modern music is written by 3 Swedish dudes and just performed by various artists and mass marketed to create artificial popularity which is why it's all quite similar.
This is just zoomerslop from people who weren't actually there.Every generation idolizes a false image of previous ones. Look at all the 80s shit like Stranger Things. It's just funnier now because time marches ever forwards and now it's the fucking 90s and 2000s they're idolizing.
>>720138629Don't be obtuse you little bitch, you know exactly what I meant.My parents rarely let me wander my local arcade, albeit for good reasons but still. Not every trip to the mall had me go inside or wander, but there was still that want, something I couldn't get at home. And I doubt I'm the only who's felt like thisThis might still be true to some extent, is nowhere near as omnipresent as it might've used to be, and when there's no desire they're no real respect or reverence for it either.
>>720137878I never even had any comprehension that games could be bad or outright shit when I was a kid, only too short which pissed me off if I spent money on it.If a game had shit controls or was too grindy or had obtuse nonsense mechanics, I always just thought it was "too hard" and played it anyway. Revisiting some of those as an adult made me realize that no actually they just fucking sucked shit - but I had no idea at the time. Even with stuff like that horrible Lego Rock Raiders on PS1, it was just too hard.
>>720138852>the same people that will call AI music "soulless" are the same people that consume and praise modern music like thisUnironically, even AI would be better than this
>>720137635this is probably the most out-of-touch post I've seen on /v/ eververy impressive, anon
>>720138696True but you could still get faked out. The magazine could make something look way more cool and interesting than it is/was. I know GameInformer got me a few times back in the day on some PS2 games
>>720138369>Can't speak for AmericansDon't worry its just as bad here if not worse, at least we are huge so you can move away if it gets too bad (if you have the money).
The electric jew is now in your pocket.You can never turn it off without turning something else on-- suspicion. Why was your jewphone off?How does it feel to have to explain shit like someone is over your shoulder wondering. You merely aren't existing anymore, but existing without that thing which you chose to have turned off, and everyone will remember that you did it. Oh selfish you, taking a little (you) time to yourself, huh? You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away. You need a excuse to get away.
>>720138938That's a good point, I think as a kid I genuinely didn't think any game was bad, I was just happy to be playing something.
>>720138996The best solution in my country is to move to a smaller town or the countryside, for some reason immigrants and muslims REALLY like living in the big cities.
>>720133165>at the xbox>at the n64Fucking esl leave my world.
>>720132010Stop worshipping corporations. Stop worshipping STUFF. Nothing is stopping you from ordering a dominos and playing Pokemon crystal all day. Shut the fuck up. Behead all nostalgia fags.
>>720138852>>720138956>AI music is way better and not all soulless despite being the most literal definition of it This fucking place
>>720132010>pokemon cards>90's
>>720139079>immigrants and muslims REALLY like living in the big citiesSame here its where their brothers are and cheap labor willing to hire them.
>>720138378how would you end up with a cd after renting a cartridge?
>>720137164>In the 90s there was just as much garbage coming out on a regular basis as todayReddit-ass talking point. 1995 had ~1080 games released across like a dozen consoles and home computer systems, at least 50% of them had no NA release, and 80% of them saw next to no marketing budget so you only heard about them through word of mouth, seeing them at rental stores, and reading about them in magazines. The local vidya merchant had maybe 50 games for a whole system's entire catalogue. Importers and mail orders increased access but the catalogue you're ordering from (usually) had the ratings for games in them (when people that knew who to play video games were the ones rating them) so why tf would you order a game you just learned about from a column that gave it a 2/5? 2024 had over 10,000 games released that are playable on PC. Overwhelming majority of those never will exceed 100 purchases and have next to no info other than a Steam page about them. There's a factorial of difference between chance of buyer's remose then vs now. The industry was factually more driven by auteurs and studios with creative vision in the 90s compared to now. Take the zoomer cope to a thread where I won't see it.
>>720137878part of life back then anoninstead of checking imdb or metacritic scores you just picked a film or game and went with it, maybe it was good, maybe it wasnt
>>720139079No jobs in those places. It's not as easy as you would think to escape the city. I have been trying for probably a decade.
>>720138741Did standard packs even come with energy cards? I don't remember having like more than one of ANY of the energy cards.
The 1990s was a literal gold age. It's not even about video games. We've only known Kali Yuga tier shit since 2001. Zoomers don't understand, how can they? How do you explain the light of civilization to a zero contact forest dweller who was born and raised there?You have no frame of reference other than suffering, struggle, chaos and misery. It's like trying to explain exquisite marble architecture to a fucking Angler fish.You quite literally had to be there. You just wouldn't get it.
>>720132010>Was gaming really better in the '90s or is it just boomer nostalgia?No, the n64 was fucking terrible horseshit controls awful games. Like only golden eye was somewhat good and that was still terrible to any PC FPS. However, 97-2000 early 2000-2005 PC games, that was when gaming peaked because there was so much creativity there.
>>720132010do kids even stay at each other's houses on the weekends and play video games together anymore?or do they just sit there and scroll their phones in the same room together?
>>720139308You can just live like a 15min drive or so from the city.
>>720134735Internet connected people before society could adapt, economic crisis vaused by years of mismanagement coming back to bite everyone, and finally the ending of the cold war caused alliances that stood for two generations to fray as Europe tried to strike out on its own to predictability failing results
>>720139324One or two usually. Not enough to use a single card in the pack usually.
>>720139214It was 99. The end of the 90s but still the 90s nonetheless.
We definitely weren't creaming our pants over games that were carbon-copies of shit we'd already played for 20 years.Zoomers have absolute shit taste.
>>720139341Filtered pig fucker
>>720139341>PC gaming before Steam ruined PC gaming forevertake me back
>>720139368Easier said than done when you live in a place with fucking $400/month car insurance (Alberta) and can barely afford to eat if you drive
>>720132010It was better. Everything is too brown and expensive these days.
>>720132154>the world was brighter and its people more humanthe world was whiter more like
>>720138962He's right though. There are a few good younger artists, there have been good things released after 2020 but mostly it's in the model of older music Can you really point at music of this decade, the 20s, and say it is as distinct and colorful as say, 80s music?
>>720139452Early PC gaming was shit. The games were good but actually getting them was nightmarish. The only place to buy video games in my town was Walmart and you were lucky if they had anything more than I Spy-type games or bejeweled clones. Definitely never had anything popular or good.
>>720132154most games were legitimately better. all we get now is the same shit from different developers, back then there were a ton of crazy new games and genres. and shit only got better once gen 6 started
>>720139454But housing prices/rent is WAAAAY higher in the city compared to the outskirts. So you save most of the money from that alone.
Teacher here, did I become a jaded boomer? I genuinely think phones and unlimited access to the internet are doing more harm than anything else
>>720138956funny enough, I was curious about this so I used chatgpt to write lyrics with a given genre, and used the lyrics it gave me in a different AI that can generate actual songs up to 4 minutes in length, and some of them actually turned out pretty good. the only shitty part about it is that it can really only do like 6 different voices and they all have that digital synthy sound to them, but they sound like what I was aiming for.With just what I was able to get it to do in 20 minutes, I wont be surprised if songs with vocals that sound like a real person wont be playing on the radio within the next 5 years.
>>720139432n64 was dogshit compared to a good gaming PC.>>720139452>could crack any game in secondsstill don't know why we all just accepted steam drm.
>>720137164no, you are spreading misinformation.there are good games today, but they are more rare and more on the indie side. we had aaa titles that were awesome and gaming companies catered to male gamers. also, aa games were a thing. the largest difference is that culture changed.
>>720139596Not really. That used to be the case but nowadays unless you live hours out from the city it's just as expensive because there's zero housing growth and extremely limited supply for rentals and purchase because no one leaves unless they die.
>>720139675>and more on the indie sidelol
>>720139263>I did a lot of googling to seethe a paragraph of nothing You obviously didn't live through the era since you're so vehemently defending it. No matter how much you piss and cry you can't go back. >Games increases by factorsYes and the rate of good or playable games has stayed the same. Search more opinions on reddit before you come here to larp.
>>720139341>N64 controls were bad>2005 was peakHow do you do, my fellow millennial?
>>720138389Gen alpha has Roblox, Poppy Playtime and mobile slop.
>>720134827>Jews and other non-whites ruined everythingstop blaming non-whites, we were used as a weapon by jews, most of us still are being used as weapons, it's the jews, you wouln't had jackshit to complain about if jews weren't around.
>No chuds gaming was not better back in the days you are just nostalgic>OMG IS THAT A REMAKE OF OLD GAME#53535 I MUST HECKIN BUY IT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!
white man weak, get replaced steadily and surelycan't even afford living anymoresuck it
>>720139542brother, you're a shut-in who never leaves his house or interacts with anyone in the real world if you think people are just listening to 80s rock shitTayTay, Ariana, Nicki, Queen Bey, etc
>>720132010The fact that many games that were released back then are still played today and have never been defeated, whether by an imitator or someone trying to "evolve" them, speaks the loudest.New games are so shit that people would rather devote time and resources to bringing up the older games to modern standards. That, to me, signifies that we peaked 20-30 years ago.
people keep saying it's the internet, social media, phones etc. but really it's just that most people can't afford to make fun things for the sake of it anymore and fun has to be monetized (via ads, donations, etc.), which ruins the purity of itit's very rare and perhaps even exceptional that anyone does anything just to do it now; if anything is done for free it's to pave the way for monetization of that thing or similar thingsanything that is completely done for free (like 4chan posts or moderation) are often still monetized by others
>>720132010>vapid consumerism :(>vapid consumerism, 90's :D
>>720139969It's actually insane how creative games are today, 25 years ago we had games like Black and White that's still unsurpassed. You would imagine we would see way more of those kind of games that make use of (proper) AI, physics and all that.The only thing that has really evolved in terms of gaming is graphics, hell most games today even have way less physic stuff and gameplay than games 20 years ago.
I'm a historian and I read stuff even in the 1800s that people complain they don't get time to do the stuff they want in their rare free time, that they work too much, that the cost of living is rising too fast etc.Things weren't better, we just became the miserable adults and replaced those before us.
>>720139969same with movies, books and other media. the good things were created around the 90s/00s and since then everything is just a rehash at best.
>>720139998This has always been the boomer mindset tho, "don't do anything unless you can make money out of it">>720140121Farmers back in the days had more freetime and freedom than we do today
>>720139998>fun has to be monetized (via ads, donations, etc.), which ruins the purity of itDo you really think "fun" in the 90's wasn't profit-driven or dominated by investor interests, the entire 2kool4skool identity of the 90's was driven by ads and commercialism
>>720136405Super MetriodDonkey Kong CountrySonic & KnucklesFinal Fantasy VIAll 1994You are this stupid.
>>720140121This anon gets it
>>720134735Soulless jews wanting the next yacht when they already own 10 yachts, they squeezed the soul out of the world just to save a tiny bit more money, ruining it forever.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zIWGJgwLpA
>Vapid consumerism Zoomniggers would have their minds absolutely fucking BLOWN by shareware distribution.>It's just a demo!Oh you poor, stupid, deluded bastard.
I think video games stopped being a cultural thing around 2017. Breath of the wild and switch launch was the last big thing. I remember 2017 /v/ was blowing up over it and the shitposts went for months. I held out on my ps3 since 2010 and only got a ps4 in 2020 for resident evil 7, I can't remember anything on 8th gen big enough to pull me away from playing fucking yakuza and MGSV on hardware from 2006 in late 2010s. Even GTAVI with all the marketing shills on /v/ feels nonexistent to the more organic shitposts on 2017 /v/ over breath of the wild and this is comparing a multi billion dollar project targeted to the masses to another zelda game. So no I think video games were better then if we're going off sentiment and video game culture.
>>720140340But /v/ loves Gaben and says he saved PC gaming by forcing DRM on PC games?
>>720140248In an objective metric they possibly did, but were still similarly miserable and had a similar feeling themselves.
>>720139452I miss the people that were PC gaming in the late 90s and early 2000s, the wealth of fan websites dedicated to modding, custom skins/sprites, mapping, and patches - hosted either on FilePlanet or mirrored via FTP. TONS of walkthroughs and guides written by passionate fans. If it was a multiplayer game, you had clan pages, and each clan had their own screenshots, fan art, or funny pics to share. It was so genuine and enthusiastic, no weird shit like today. It's why I'm like, yeah, you can go back and play all the good games from this era that you missed out on, but something will always be missing, and that's the people that we were able to enjoy and discuss it with. They say only 1-5% of websites (geocities, angelfire, not to mention all the image hosters like Imageshack and Photobucket) that existed in 2002 still exist now, and so you can't even show people how much better it used to be. There's exponentially more people with access to the Internet, and somehow it feels smaller, much smaller at that.
>>720132010Blockbuster was overrated as fuck. Especially if you were the one that had to pay and always drive back to drop off the videos
>>720132010Why are those kids all looking at the back of the cards?
>>720139326>We've only known Kali Yuga tier shit since 2001More like since 2013.
>>720140393Are you stupid? Video games are more culturally omnipresent than ever before. Every child plays fortnite and roblox. The Switch 2 sell a million bajillion copies despite costing an arm and leg. Gachashit is more popular than ever. An indie game made by like three people just released and sold a million copies in a week. The gaming industry is literally too big to fail now; flops like the Wii U will never happen again.
>>720132010le 90s kid heregaymen was better back then simply because you would spend more time immersed in the game without being influenced by outside opinions. you had forums to talk about stuff but the internet speed was shit and you didn't spend too much time on it. vidya magazines were still the de facto way to communicate consensus opinions and that was obviously a one way exchange. in short, you could play something and enjoy it for your own reasons whereas today most people are pre-poisoned by the internet hivemindalso games were generally of higher quality. they offered more entertainment the more time you invested. games today are spectacle at best and timewasters at worst.tl;dr smart phones and social media ruined it all much like with every other aspect of society
By the time ps2 was dropping we were playing with shitty nes clones and "study" PCs, if you had internet you were one of the lucky ones, being eastern european sucked... we now have the money to buy new consoles but the games aren't there.
>>720132154>the world was brighterit was the opposite, all the dark shit was hidden out of sight for most people; faggots, trannies, furries, and all other shit was well hidden, and as soon these freaks stepped into the light, they were shunned by everyone.now you get the whole picture, a well illuminated picture, with all it's defects, all the nasty shit that you didn't want nor need to see, and for some reason, they celebrate that shit.
Online gaming was particularly better because you knew the people you were playing with. Either your IRL friends or a tight knit group of people who frequented the same community servers. Now you get filtered through the soulless matchmaking algorithm to be trapped in a digital torture chamber full of brown people and mindless drones
>>720140582Anons have a hard time distiguishing that they got behind with the times from things that got behind the times.
>>720132010>were games better back thenYes, but also no.Videogame reviewing magazines were biased as hell and when you wanted to buy a game then all you had was the single sentence description in the Christmas catalogue (with your parents only having that as parents didn't play gmaes). Watch AVGN to realize how much god damn trash existed back then. Shovelware isn't a new concept, it's been around for a long ass time.Even then, games were balanced like they were arcade games. Rentals and borrowing were god damn essential to ensure you weren't stepping on a land mine as there were realms of shitty games.Everything is spoiled for you today due to a wealth of information, but back then buyers remorse was real if you got a shitty game.
>>720140576>Muh Mayan calender 2012>KaliBrainlet dipshit.
>>720140431Gaben isn't jewish so he has a soul, enough to keep everyone happy. He brought everyone together. An actual jewish money hungry parasite could never design a game, let alone play one.
>>720140582>despite costing an arm and legThe Switch 2 is literally the cheapest way to game on the market. It's cheaper than the PS5, Xbox, handheld PCs, gaming laptops, or gaming PCs.
>>720132010I was alive for two years in the 90’s and that’s not what they were like. Mostly they involved wallowing in your own feces for hours at a time and getting screamed at for biting women’s breasts.
>>720139998The 2008 recession never ended. I remember hearing on the news in the summer of 2009 that the minimum wage had been raised, and that was the last time it's happened since. Everything has felt the same since then thanks to globalization and the homogenization of everything, Internet included. Nobody can afford fuck all now, and the prices keep going up and staying up because of course they will. I got a sausage and egg mcmuffin from mickey d's the other day on a whim, first time in years, and I was stunned by how little it was. So not only is everything more expensive, you're getting less and less. Things were already like this in the 2000s too, because this scam has been operating since the 70s and 80s, and you can go back even further to the creation of the Federal Reserve itself. The point is, we're not gonna be able to go back, and I dread to think it'll somehow get worse than 2025.
>>720132154>the world was brighter and its people more humanIt only felt that way because we were young and innocent. All the evil in the world still existed but it was obscured because information didn't travel like it does today.
>>720140498This is also the case why everything today sucks, everything has been centralized.When I grew up my small town had lots of different unique grocery stores and cool small stores for all kind of stuff, we even had a used game store even if it was a small ass town.We had lots of different schools placed pretty much in the countryside.Just a bit over 20 years later ALL of that is gone, like 4 different schools are shut down and it's all just a big school in the town now, all fun stores are shut down and we only have the big brand market grocery stores now.It's even the same with online stores, most "gaming" Online stores before sold all kind of crap. You could find limited edition Japanese Lucky Star DVD boxes even in my random European country, now the same store just sells the most biggest brand shit and nothing "niche" or unique at all.It really really feels like all the small/niche stuff has totally got removed from the world and only the big corporation and stuff exists now. The same shit happened to gaming, it's either AAA+++ games or shitty indie games now, no in-between.
>>720140251that's something elseI meant real people (not corps) don't do the fun things for free anymore because they don't make enough money with their day jobmod creators, artists, etc.
>>720140876>Mostly they involved wallowing in your own feces for hours at a time and getting screamed at for biting women’s breasts.That's how I spend my Saturday nights actually.
>>720132010I used to go to Blockbuster with my family every week. RIP….
>>720140735The worst was being a normie who engaged with those communities as it coincided with my interests. Being a straight male theatrefag and dancefag back in the days was exactly the mirror into the darkness of society that you describe, but even that wasn't as degen back then as shit has become nowadays. It was still pretty foul, however.
>>720140848>Perfectly desribes Gaben one of the most greedy Jews that actually buys like 10 yachts to host pedo parties with>"NOOOO GABEN DOESN'T COUNT HE IS A GOOD GUY BECAUSE HIS COMPANY MADE A GAME I LIKE 20 YEARS AGO!"
>>720140582>every child plays fortnite and robloxIs it as big as pokemania? Will they stay interested in it like halo kept people interested?>gachashit is more popularpopular with the same people? Yes. Popular as in growing? Do more and more people express interest in anime girl shit or is it just the same weebs?>an indie game made by like 3 people released and sold a million copies in a weekstardew valley did this a decade ago, indies aren't as big but sure there will be bound to be some big hit every other decade or so
>>720140938real people still make fun things, it's called the indie market and you ignore it because you think it's all troons or whatever other boogeyman
>>720132010Yes. Also yes.
>>720139156I googled it for youThe guy is named Max Martin, he does most English songs and is something like the 3rd artist with the most #1 hits or something after Paul McCartney and John Lennon.Those 2 are HUGE names, I doubt anyone has heard of Max Martin
>>720140143Traditional entertainment is dead and it's like no one seems to really notice.
>>720139939>TayTay, Ariana, Nicki, Queen Bey, etcYou must be a homo. But even then all those people you just named have been active for over a decade. The fact that they are still popular proves no one will be nostalgic for 2020's music or new artists.
>>720137635>>720139542There's plenty of bitches from tiktok who tried their hand at legitimate singing careers, just like Justin Bieber graduated from Youtube over 15 years ago. You're just not aware of any of it, because it's easier than ever to avoid mainstream radio with a phone in your pocket, Spotify set up, plugged into your car's audio. The culture (and """culture""") is still there, you're just not the youth anymore. You're an out of touch geezer, the kind you promised yourself you'd never become.
>>720132010Pretty close, I had Network Video as the rental game store. Blockbuster was for the rich kids.
>>720140790The Kali Yuga started in 3102 BC so you're still wrong.
>spend decades only casually engaging with utter garbage>now you're miserable because you were only orbiting the hobby to begin withI'm not seeing the problem here
>>720140908keep spittin facts
/CryingMillenialsGeneral/
>>720141054NTA but I'm glad I did. I still got to benefit from the last of the good times.I pity the young'uns today without any sort of inheritance.
>>720132010>1990s>Want to play single play game>Take game off shelf>Put into console or handheld>Start playing>2020s>Want to play single player game>Take game off shelf>Oops! Can't do that because it's digital only :)>Sign in because of "always online" is required>Create and sign into a separate account because the publisher wants your data too! :)>Download the game>Now gotta download any updates>Here's an add for DLC and microtransaction while you wait!>Don't forget to follow us on social media!>Downloads finally done>Start playing
>>720141012>people don't do the fun things for free anymore>real people still make fun things, it's called the indie marketprobably not the best choice of wordsand yes I already said it's exceptional for anyone to do anything just for the sake of it now
>>720137635You are retarded
Seriously how come the AA game market has not made a resurgence yet? Wouldn't it be better for the big studios to NOT spend nearly a billion dollar making a game and instead spend a fraction of that budget to release multiple unique games?You just need one of the them to be a hit for it to be a win vs taking a big risk on an expensive ass game that might now sell.
>>720141434Indie games probably squeezed them out. Now you have to compete with both lower budget and higher budget titles.
>>720141434Shareholders haven't gotten to the point where they ask for smaller good games over consumer-repelling price gougers yet.
>>720141434Because most publishers are still super greedy and even if something is AA they still want AAA sales and now AA has to compete with Indie and even though there is some real good Indie titles that market is completely oversaturated as well. There is just too many damn video games coming out now and barely any of them make a lasting impact.
>>720140705I'll also add in that 100%-ing a game was a lot harder back then. You had playground rumors, Nintendo Power, or maybe the guides if a game was popular. Otherwise you stumble through something in the dark. Tough puzzle driving you nuts? Boss being an utter cockhole? Missing the last jiggy even after combing a level for hours? Too bad, keep at it.Nowadays you can go online and see everything immediately. Part of my fondest memories was overcoming the challenge in these games by myself.
>>7201376352000s still had good music. i don't think any good songs have been released since 2010
>>720132010I dont know, ask zoomers
>>720140992>Is it as big as pokemania?Even bigger.>Will they stay interested in it like halo kept people interested?Fortnite BR released in 2017, which makes it 8 years old. In the span of 8 years we got Halo 1 - ODST, which was about the point the general public began losing interest in Halo and it started becoming more niche. Meanwhile Fortnite is still going strong and becoming even more expansive. Fortnite will massively outlive Halo's cultural relevancy; it won't even be close.>Do more and more people express interest in anime girl shitAnime aesthetics in the form of vtubing and chinese gacha games have exploded in popularity. The medium and aesthetics of anime are literally, and I do mean it, purely a normie hobby now.>stardew valley did this a decade agoStardew valley sold <200k copies week one. I actually underestimated Silksong's sales; it's nearing an estimated three million sales in week one. Plus Silksong is a challenging action game, not some cozy farming simulator that women will buy. The demographic is so much more limited but it still sold tenfold that of Stardew.
>>720140753Same thing for how we browse the Internet now. You used to actively surf the web for your interests, be it talking about games, sports, or tv shows. Now, you plug into the algorithm on tiktok or whatever social media hellhole is someone's favorite, and get "content" that is created with the sole purpose of pleasing the algorithm, not out of passion. You don't remember the video 1 minute later, even though it was "engaging" in the moment. You don't remember the person who created the "content", you just scroll for the next dopamine hit, same with how matchmaking ruins the online experience. People are in bad shape because of this, the cyclical engagement bait and demoralization we're exposed to, one after the other with no ability to change it, is driving us to the brink of insanity. People are so depressed and anxious now because of this shit, it's not healthy. You can see it in the eyes of the people you walk down the street with, there's no life in most of them.
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>>720141724What game is that on the screen?
>>720141434Half of the games you'd call "indie" are in reality just AA.
>go to the video store with brother>asks me whether i want to pick up a game>take shinobi for ps2 because i enjoyed the one we had at home and the cover looked cool as fuck>by the end of the evening i was in pure rage by the fucking difficulty of that game and had come close to smashing the controller against the wall>turn it off and return it the next day
>>720134735smart phones are to blame the general public cant handle 24/7 internet access. The general populous has lost its mind, no I dont give a fuck about the food you are about the eat stop taking pictures and jamming the internet with pointless bullshit.
>>720141770>Internet and the world is bigger than ever>but we have less thingsBut it was kind of the same back in the days, we all went to Newsground because that's where the search engines redirected us. Most of us even saw stuff shitty stuff like Joecartoon because of that and shit like the DROP THE BOMB osama bin laden video.
>>720141724>people *living in shit times* wish they lived in *better times* >"Wow this is some of the weirdest shit" Who's the fucking cretin who writes this shit, and who's the bigger retard who screencaps this shit like it's something worth reading? But I guess the biggest clown of all is none other than myself for even replying to this. sage
>>720141769>it's nearing an estimated three million sales in week one.Three million ON STEAMIt's also on GOG, PS4, PS5, XbOne, Series X, Switch, and Switch 2, too
Yes. Games were released as complete, mostly functional products No DLC. No Patches.There was no question if you owned the game or not. That fucking cart/CD was yours 100% and the full game was on it.Games were designed with the idea of it being fun and hopefully selling well enough to keep the studio going. Not to generate endless revenue/engagement and appease the investors.There were more types of games being made. Sure there was trend chasing but it NEVER was at the level we see today(and have seen since Halo). Where is consumed the whole industry. EVERYONE was making a "Halo killer", EVERYONE was making a "WoW Killer", EVERYONE is making a Live service. Games "respected" your time. Outside of games like Pac-Man and Tetris, they all had endings. It did not take hundreds of hours to complete a game. There was not a giant fuck off map with over 1k things to collect. There was no hours of cutscenes.Politics was subtext is present at all. Unlike today where it's used like a blunt weapon to bash us all in the face with.People did not buy the game because it was shit. People did not buy the game because distribution issues. What studios did not do was blame the customer for not buying the slop and call us bigots for not being interested in buying their game.Characters were designed to be cool/sexy/memorable. What was NOT a consideration back then was "realism" and "representation".
>>720132154Only because you were a clueless retarded child at that point.
>>720134735being a cunt strictly dominates being kind and hoomans follow the path of least resistance
It will all improve in due time. There is no need to be upset.
>>720142186>hat fucking cart/CD was yours 100% and the full game was on it.
>>720141769>bigger then pokemaniaroblox will probably get blown up in courts with the way they can't handle predditors in the game preying on kids there was no pokemania moment for fortnite as far as I remember>fortnite massively outlives halo cultural relevancy its a literal advertising platform while halo had midnight releases lasting memories for some and prevented an entire game console platform from going bust. Fortnite might as well be facebook once something better for advertising comes out fortnite will be forgotten much faster then halo was.>anime aesthetics is a normie hobby nowthis isn't the 00s and early 10s anymore where naruto AMVs are cool. I don't see how anime is a "normie" hobby these days. If anything its just going to go the coomer route with all the AI crap and grok is already showing the way.
>>720132010Do kids nowadays have splitscreen multiplayer parties?Those were the best and I refuse to believe that online gaming can never achieve anything similar.
>>720142305no. the world was much better 20 years ago. i feel the world is full of hatred and anger now. probably because the economy sucks now
>>720134735Kids went outside to play in the 90's regardless of video games. It wasn't an all day thing every fucking day. You still had to go outside and socialize.You don't do that anymore.
It's bigger than video games and media, dude. Yes, those things are gotten worse in my opinion but it's also the fact we also lived through COVID-19 and we have mass social media brainrot. You're an idiot if you think those things don't have an effect on people's behavior and society.Anyone who in here thinking "It's because you were an innocent kid" is being disingenuous as fuck. I'm not even a millennial, I'm a zoomer who's just old enough to remember a time before all this shit, I'm not one of those "born in the wrong generation" types
>>720141109nice image, xister! I love her, she represents our people so wonderfully
>>720139783Sorry for your literacy challenges, zoomer-kun, but I won't be making this into a tiktok video so you can absorb it.
>>7201424542020s are the new 1880s.
>>720142368>there was no pokemania moment for fortnite as far as I rememberIt's happening right now and has been happening for years. You just aren't aware of it because you're not a kid playing fortnite with your friends. Its cultural domination is alien to you because you're now the adult, just as Pokemania was alien to your parents back in the day.>I don't see how anime is a "normie" hobby these daysSimple. Covid happened and every normie sat down to consoom a ton of anime on netflix because they couldn't go outside and have sex parties, or whatever it is normies do. Hop on Tinder at any time and 80% of the women there will be into demon slayer or whatever else is popular with them.
>>720132010>get cool shootan>no way to create new maps for itConsole gaming was always inferior. It was just cheaper. And now it's not even that.
>>720142454I think you need to go back 30 years at this point because 2005, while not as bad as now, was still only a few years away from the 2008 financial crises. Things have really been on a downward slide since the mid 2000s. The 90s in general was probably the last real stable period at least in some countries.
>>720142368WoW, CoD, Minecraft, Fortnite all reached Pokemania levels
>>720132010>N64Get that shit away from me.
>>720141434>Seriously how come the AA game market has not made a resurgence yet? But it does exist. You just decide to cry and shitpost and make drama anyway.
>>720142910yes. everything has been getting worse since 2005 at latest. current world will 100% lead to more wars but maybe that is the solution
>>720137504Thats because back then, most of the people posting on the internet were nerdy white/asian men.
>>720142812>just as Pokemania was alien to your parents back in the day.Are you dumb? Parents knew about that shit more than anyone
>>720142895>Have to spend at least 1.5k for a PC that can match the current gen consoles>cheaper
>>720135531The Internet used to have the same youthful, almost childlike energy as the people who used it. Now, it's like we've grown up and have to be serious business all the time.
>>720143041They knew it existed but didn't understand it and thought it was just satanic grooming, just as you don't understand fortnite or roblox and think it's all just troon grooming.
>>720142421Kids play Mario Kart and such with friends at home all the time. I know my nephew does. And also with the family, with me putting this little brat back in his rightful place and making him kneel to me.
>>720141801That is anti-nostalgia to me.
>>720143158>and thought it was just satanic groomingNo they didn't, they thought it was some funny game/cartoon with funny creatures. You think parents would keep buying their kids Pokemon stuff if they thought it was satanism stuff?
>>720139537America was great in the 90s even with non-whites (especially compared to today or any time before the 70s)
>>720132071https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEZsGUqgtHQ
>>720132010I thought you were beaten up and called a faggot for liking this stuff?
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>>720132236>9/11 mentionedOoh boy…
>>720137053No, there's significantly more gay and brown people so life is worse thanks to people like you.
>>720133524Having studios gobbled up by multinationals didn’t help. I think a lot of the cash grab monetization is coming down from on high in an effort to appease the board.As in all things, money corrupts anything approaching soul or passion.
>N64 released in 1996>barely 1/3rd of the 90's Sorry zoomers, you don't hit the cut-off. Here's a 90's console.
>>720143316Interesting that in this thread about 90's nostalgia people don't seem to remember just how common it was to accuse pokemon of spreading anti-christian beliefs. People straight up lost their minds over the very concept of evolution being alluded to in-game.
>>720143075Go to Youtube and search for 'budget gaming pc 2025'. You'll find tons of guides about building very good rigs for less than console prices.
>>720143605>don't seem to remember just how common it was to accuse pokemon of spreading anti-christian beliefsI don't live in a third world country (America), so no I don't had any of that shit in my country. Most people here are not retarded.
>>720143217Why?
>>720132010>>720132154>>720132310>>720133484>>720134735This is to go even further beyond, Gamecube deserved better, I still can’t believe it sold worse than the N64 to the point where it ended up costing $49 for a new one
We are oversaturated in entertainment which just washes everything outVideo games, movies, TV, the internet, all of it you have access to ndless amounts 24/7Not only as a whole culture but especially as an adult not blocked by how many video games your parents buy youIts not like the old stuff is higher quality across the board (except maybe Disney movies)
We need to go back guys
>>720135916You can also throw in that full blown sequels only took a year to maybe 3 years tops. It's kind of insane to think that from 2001-2004 Rockstar did GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas. The gap between GTAIV and San Andreas was 4 years and then the gap was 5 years and now the gap is over a decade.
friday afternoon. get on my bike ride around assembling the boys. go to the park, set up goalposts with our jumpers and play until the sun turns orange and goes to rest. go home and play some video games or watch a movie. saturday morning - cocopops and cartoons. what gifts will today bring? go skating with the boys. shoot eachother with bb guns. fight the local scummy kids. sleepover at mikes. crash team racing tournament. exhaust ourselves and fall asleep watching a movie. up in time for sunday league football. win. go to the cafe to celebrate with our fathers. thank god I exist.
>>720143710Staying up all night with your bros playing action quake 2 or similar was peak summer. Take me back to 1998 please :(
>>720143710People posting this as if it's impossible to have LAN parties now is odd to me. If anything it's even easier because modern monitors are easier to lug around than old CRT monitors.
>>720143816kek
>>720143917I mean it is still possible, but kind of pointless as you can do everything Online.Sure it's "different", but at the same time it takes quite a lot of time and energy to organize one.
>>720143816so thats like 150-200 without a controller and games back then were still $40 so $80 with our current purchasing powerlets go buy a gamecube (which has 3 games total), a controller and a game for ~$350
>>720143816>>720143730the shitcube will never be good, zoomoid
>>720143917Zoomers will never do it and we millennials are too old for that shitZoomers and younger generations will just join a trooncord group call
>>720143816No wonder my brother had one
>>720132154This. The world was better before social media and apps in general. Movies were made by actual directors with individual personalities and singular ideas and friends actually talked about them rather than spouting box office numbers or using them to talk the 3 same social issues over and over. No facebook, no insta, no linkedin, no whatsapp... you got out of work and that was it, and if it was Friday you cloaked out for the whole weekend. No such thing as getting a message saying "we are under staffed and need you" or shit like that.Game making was some sort of arcane mystery. You´d never hear controversy because a game was too good or too cheap, what the fuck is even that? How can anyone complain about those things? Pop music wasn´t all that great though. I mean, it´s great now in comparison because things have gone to shit but at the time it paled when compared to music from 80´s, 70´s and 60´s. And yes, you´d go to Blockbuster, get a movie, a game and some snacks and it was on.
I remember when millennials did a 180 on Pokemon and considered it gay
>>7201322369/11 was fun you retard.
>>720141724Zoomies don't know what it was like back then.I've seen them straight up not believing people when they told them that you used to get bullied for liking anime, video games, Star Trek, etc. They even came up with their own explanation, like the people saying that must have been bad people and the bullies were righteous avengers or something.
>>720143750Yeah. When I was a kid, I had like 10 games for a generation and you cherished each one, even the stinkers. Now I have 200 games in my steam library and I don't care about any of them.We evolved to value what is rare and take for granted what is plentiful. Streaming and digital storefronts will kill the joy of media consumption.
>>720143710Bawlz, every time.
>>720134735ZuckerbergSteve JobsBill GatesBezosWhoever the fuck created Reddit and TwitterFucking Gen X tech bros are worse than Boomers
>>720139873>stop blaming non-whitesNo.
I don't much care for people who universally say "old good new bad", this is an enormous pet peeve for me, because not only is it not true, but the capacity you're engaging with games has changed since then, hopefully for the better. Fightcade didn't exist in the 90s and it's a huge improvement over casually playing sf2 on the snes. The ease at which you can connect to people and share tech and learn is greater than ever before, which means you can enjoy video games more than ever. I really dislike when people say video games were better back then because they could pubstomp or there was a lot of pulp art of titties and booth babes to make idiots buy crappy games or consume crappy media. I feel these are exactly the people who deserve to be gatekept because the state of the AAA industry now is a just the natural evolution of those shallow and predatory practices, and i really dont want to go back to the times of retarded dudebros. Its good that big devs are crashing and burning, the good old games didnt have these monstrous budgets and 400 man dev teams. Steam had 19,000 games release on it last year and if you can't find a single game to be excited about you probably like games for the wrong reasons. There are lots of great new games to play and old games to get really good at if you love learning and improving at games, and if you don't your opinion really doesn't matter to me.
>>720140886Maybe if you lived in a shithole or in Eastern Europe during the 90s.The 90s in the West were probably one of the best times to be human, period.
>>720143917It’s not really the same; back then it was a 250-300ms ping for an online shooter vs 1ms over the lan. Nowadays going from say 15ms to 1ms isn’t as noticeable.Couple that with online matchmaking and voice chat and it’s just as special. The social aspect is there for sure, but it’s not worth the effort just for gaming.
>>720143710Very cliquey experience. I don't remember it particularly fondly. The rest of this thread is good nostalgia.
>>720144223the ultra rich have hundreds of trillions of wealth combined. that's probably the source of all problems
>>720144085>Pointlessly and excessively antagonistic opinion over something as menial as a video game console Yup, it's a jeet.
>>720144262Old new, good bad.
>>720143917Back in the day, a lot of people had dial-up or a weak internet, and so playing on LAN was such a monumental upgrade that it was worth the hassle of setting up to play with 0 ping. Also, couch co-op/multi doesn't exist anymore. Also, no one does anything social anymore unless they're forced to.
>>720135531>>720135650>This. Gaming was a lot more fun/social of a hobby when you didn't just have the internet to look everything up. Local multiplayer will always be more fun than online too.Smash Melee comes to mind, Melee was such an info dump of a game (in the greatest of ways) that opened mines maybe many other eyes to games and franchises I didn't know even existed.It was released at a perfect time where the Internet wasn't as mainstream, so the Trophies were perfect to provide you information of Nintendo games you've never played. I’m glad Team Akaneia is carrying on that spirit and keeping it alive.
>>720132010>Pokemon CardsNah son the actual pokemon games with fucking link cables.And Pokemon Stadium.
>>720132010Everything bad with videogames came with Internet>Tryhard faggots on competitive multiplayer>Death of LAN and couch multiplayer>Half-baked games that get updates later (if they ever get fixed) because now they have the means to do it>DLC, Season passes, etc>GaaS>Streamers and ecelebsEverything was better when games didn't connect to Internet
>>720132154sybau
>>720144392>wojakYeah this is exactly what I'm talking about. Nothing lost over gatekeeping the likes if you.
>>720142812>its not cultural domination because you are adult when game is outfortnite like I said is an advertising platform. Just take shooters that have been around for decades prior and slap cartoon graphics and put it in an engine where you can have anything from the latest current year spotify rapper to ronald mcdonald as your character. Whereas pokemon was its own IP and design. Nobody is gonna care about fortnite and fortnite won't have lasting legacy because its an advertising platform, its just TF2 with generic fill in characters to advertise already made stuff. Halo is becoming irrelevant but master chief in fortnite is memorable to people cause master chief itself.>women are into demon slayermy guy anime will never be a mainstream mass cultural thing in the future. DBZ and 90s to mid 00s was as big as it will get in mainstream culture. Japanese culture export is declining at this point. The only thing anime is getting bigger in is degen weeb porn for a niche audience.
>>720144134>You´d never hear controversy because a game was too good or too cheap, what the fuck is even that? How can anyone complain about those things?Astroturfing by an industry that wants to normalize higher prices and lower expectations.
>>720143710>>720144208I miss when pc gaming was for nerds :(
>>720135753>Is the fact an arcade existing at all even matter when they have full games on their phones now? Or can turn on a dozen different apps if they're bored?I think you just answered your own question, Smartphones have gotten too out of hand they even started banning the use of them in some schools in the US. Kids will either hand them in or keep them locked inside special bags that need to be unlocked at the end of the day. I saw this on the news last week in the lead up to the first day of school for many kids.
>>720138389They won't need nostalgia when they're in their 40s and Fortnite just realeased Season 1000 with gyatt skibidi rizzler boomerzoomer crossover skins
>>720144643It still is, you were just never a nerd so you're in the normalfag outgroup and totally outside of what they are doing.
>>720136835This. The thing about arcades and older console gayman was that you and other players had a relationship with the game. The game wasn’t just a toybox you could pop open and fiddle with like a modern game slathered with QOL sludge. It had rules and you had to follow them and respect them. You came to them and had to learn them and make mental adjustments and compromises to enjoy them, leading to a deeper relationship and appreciation for the game.Too many games now are the opposite, bending over backwards and doing everything they can to please players with zero friction. It’s like an AI chatbot girlfriend. Everything bends to the player and there’s no growth, no learning, no real relationship.
>>720143816Wake up bro its 2007!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBG-m9joMmk
>>720144748How does that describe silksong
>>720132010How is this any different than a kid in 2010 running home after school to play Minecraft with their friends or a kid today running home to play Roblox with their friends?
>>720132010My friend group thought Golden Eye was gay but the rest of that image is accurate.
>>720135916>Whole game on-disc or on-cart. NO DLC. And if there were, they were full expansions.There still were forms of DLC in the 90s, Street Fighter II and its multiple editions/releases, Sonic 3 & Knuckles lock on technology, Pokémon and its third versions of every generation
>>720144262But is not logically possible that, as a collective, gaming was better off 20 years ago compared to now? I don't buy into the whole belief that everyone who is nostalgiac for those days were just the same trend followers of the time, and that it's all relative. I enjoyed a lot of niche games back then and used to scoff at people who'd do the whole "back in my day" spiel, but there's so much wrong with this industry now, and broad strokes paint the fences faster. You can't always qualify your statements or add a disclaimer that, yes, there's a lot of good games coming out now, and that old games you liked as a kid turned out to be shallow garbage when you replayed them.
The time period between the fall of the soviet union and 9/11 was a western golden age desu, it's not just nostalgia, the world was brighter, more optimistic, things were getting better almost everywhere.
>>720144905Because it’s taken for granted now, and it’s all online vs in person.It’s why going to a video store for a movie and a sega game is more memorable than fucking Netflix.Convenience isn’t always a good thing.
>>720143730Yes but we also had an Xbox so we played a lot of Halo too. Also add the GameCube version of Soul Calibur 2.
>>720144387I'm glad more people are noticing this. It's like they have this weird FOMO and want to be able to rewrite a narrative of something they weren't even a part of. It's really weird shit, and it's how you get the demoralizing, ritualposting schizos that never used to be a thing.
>>720144841people werent starting all their sentences with fucking "bro" back then
>>720132154Holy fuck you people are retarded.
>>720134735>The Washington Consensus>NAFTA >The World Trade Organization>Newt Gingrich breaking unspoken rules and the Republican Revolution of 95 which lead to the polarization of the two parties we suffer from today>Yitzhak Rabins assassination>Zuckerberg and social media revolution>Smart phones People escaped to whatever niche or hobby and the real outside world didnt get involved. Until when they noticed everyone stopped watching the state sponsored slop on TV or buying into their agendas and found ways around barriers of entry and gatekeeping i.e pirate streaming, independent journalism online, having online discussions with no filter or censor etc etc.Then the legacy big media and companies began to become nervous as they were always a step ahead of the populace and couldn't bare the thought of being left behind. So the real world shoved and forced its way into every avenue there was in the digital world. Try to look up a story from a small time indie reporter? Too bad the search results is just hundreds of unrelated stories and videos from the channels and companies you see on TV.
>>720137635I gravitate more to 80s, 90s and 2000s music and I’m a 1995 baby btw, anything after the 2000s is just “whatever”https://youtu.be/ZRvZiU4goFA
>>720145261Literally every young person now BRO THINKS HE'S HIMBROOOO CHECK THIS OUTBRO IS TRIPPIN
>>720145265explain how the world is not worse now than 20 years ago?
>>720137878> If you rented some shit like that horrible Batman Beyond game from blockbuster, that might've been all you had for the whole weekend. Might as well go play outside. I do miss the days of unlockable content, cheat codes, and splitscreen multiplayer though.Or if you were lucky to own the best Spider-Man game
>>720145052I would say the industry was better 20 years ago because development didn't cost multiple millions and developers had some more freedom because it was still mostly a bunch of nerdy guys spear heading it and the corporate suits, while they were starting to get involved in 2005, were more content to let the nerds do their thing because they will still pulling in a massive profit compared to budget at that time. Now everything is bloated and honestly there is very little point to even playing a game at launch because it will probably launch buggy as hell requiring you to wait for patches.
>>720144682I suspect the real reason is, every kid having a camera leads to exposing teachers who push weird shit that doesn't belong in the classroom.
>>720142454https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riotsNothing's changed faggot. Your parents and the lack of Internet shielded you from the horrors going on around you. Racial tensions were a massive thing in the 90's. Government corruption. Corporations bleeding the lower classes. Censorship. Low wages. State encouraged welfare. Immigration issues. Black people causing almost all the crime. It was all still there in the 90's.
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>>720145613no that is pure cope. current world is much worse because capitalism took over the entire world
>>720145492Yep, and many games have to be as generic and safe as possible to recoup the massive budgets - can't afford to frustrate the game journalist and get a bad review. It's why a lot of games are unmemorable.
>>720140705>also games were generally of higher quality. they offered more entertainment the more time you invested. games today are spectacle at best and timewasters at worst.i would've killed for some of the live service slop today compared to what i had back in the 80s. you had to spend the equivalent of $80+ today on new games. also shovelware was a lot worse back in the day because of how dishonest the advertising was, they'd only be in magazine ads or posters. the only thing you had to gauge if a game was good or not were gaming mags and all of them lied to you if the publisher promised kickbacks. if a game did get a commercial though, it was 99% bound to be ok at worst. high water mark of gaming was the ps1/ps2 era since you had a lot of creativity and crazy leaps in quality and now everything feels like its plateaued
>>720145052>But is not logically possible that, as a collective, gaming was better off 20 years ago compared to nowNo, the "industry" is in a good spot because it's shifting towards independent and small scale development, and consoles are dying off. There's two different types of people who like old games1) people who rush through 2 hour long games with credits and save states, or play nothing but rpgs2) people who actually learn and dissect old games to get better at them because they really enjoy them1 will be miserable, but 2 is going to realize there's still good games coming out eventually, and get into a lot of different genres. The more genres and difficult games you can play, the bigger the chances are that something comes out that's appealing to you. People have simply just been playing really casual and crappy games and worked themselves into a tiny corner of popular culture, so of course everything would go up in flames. Like look at the panicking burnt out milennials making 200 old rpg threads on /v/ a day while screaming that people are actually playing silksong. These people should have been gatekept from video games.
>>720145017DLC stands for downloadable content.
>>720145664>StockholmKEK!Degrees of Lewdity reference sightened.
>>720145420Read a fucking history book. Bad things always happen. Do you really think it was safe to walk through Los Angles or Miami in the 90's? Fuck no. You'd get you ass stabbed by some crack addict. There were race riots, there were wars or "conflicts", there was media manipulation. Nothing's changed other than your awareness of it. I'm 40. I've had to live through people doing this for every fucking generation. My parents told me how bad the 90's were and how the 50's and 60's were the greatest ever. I had my older brothers tell me how the 70's and 80's were the best time ever and now I'm listening to my generation do the same fucking thing. Every generation thinks their childhood/teenage years were the best shit ever.
>>720145998how do you explain the purchasing power and amount of available jobs in 80s compared to today then if nothing has changed
>>720134610And their answer to all that was fascism but retarded
>>720145689Capitalism took over the world in the 80's dipshit.
>>720146071How do you explain the increase in available education and medical advancements if the world is worse? People are living longer and are more educated than at any other point in human history.
>>720138938>>720139050I definitely thought many games were shit back then and quit them, although there were quite a few movie-tie-ins I enjoyed, like A Bug's Life and 102 Dalmations.
>>720145613Hell yeah but you can't compare to seeing shootings and riots on the news at 10:00 o'clock to now being able to being able to see the abhorrent shit on your phone 24/7. And people barely going outside nowadays makes that worse.>Low wagesNot like how it is now
>>720146090didn't happen instantly obviously
>>720145750I'm #2, and fair enough, I do agree with you for the most part, especially the 2nd half of what you wrote. There's so many great old games to play, and the way I play games is intensive, with multiple playthroughs, so I'll never even be able to enjoy them all in my lifetime. It's not a personal issue of enjoyment, even if I'm not able to enjoy discussion due to the state of the modern internet, I can at least enjoy the games on my own accord. I guess my point is, gaming is in a worse state now because there's more generic games than ever that don't seek to challenge the player anymore, only deliver a focus-grouped experience for the casual consumer who has no investment in the game beyond the hype that they're told they should feel about it. It can be broken down more nuanced than that, but that's the gist of it.
>>720146210Holy shit bro, we ruined generations and we gained a whooping 0.6 YEARS of average life expectancy!!!! HUGEI mean sure, we are in a housing crisis, and education is worth less, so you have to go into more debt for less value... but bro, you get to live 6-7 months longer! Which is good, since you will probably still be paying off your house.I think you are severely overestimating how much qol increased, and how much the world average is dictated by 3rd world countries being forced to use the absolute minimum hygiene which stops babies from dying.
>>720132154this
>>720145998You're a retard. The 50s were the peak of history and every decade after was incrementally worse.
>>720146095That's a child vagina.
>>720146547So pretty much what you are saying is a massive war, and huge labor shortages, with a crippled industry that was completely shaken up, lead to a golden era.... the complete opposite of todays politics, where countries are all entrenched, refuse any actual global conflict, and countries are being flooded with cheap labor, while massive corporations slowly gain complete market control.Yeah, sounds about right, we are fucked.
>>720143816>>720144051Zoomie, these included a controller and a pack-in game that was labeled "Not for Resale". Mine had Double Dash. Furthermore, If that was in 2004, that'd be $83.30 today. Don't bury yourself so early.
>>720146581And how do you know that?
>>720146746look at the hands
>>720146671Yeah basically, every avenue of life has some fatcat entrenched interest defending their little fief.
>>720132154>>720134735Too many Arabs, Indians and Asians invaded out turf.
>>720139359My son is 11, they hang out in discord mostly though one kid has tons of retro consoles and the friend group will always stay at his house because they love nostalgia for a time they never existed. I feel bad because being a kid today sucks, all the cool shit already happened.
>>720146746It's pretty fucking obvious now judging by the size alone, innit, pedokike?
>>720132236>pre-9/11 worldWhat does that even mean? A couple buildings collapsed to the ground through planned demolition, and all of a sudden the world changed for everyone. We're living in a post 9/11 world, everyone!
>>720146846Well I dunno, I don't tend to look at child vaginas, you seem to be the expert here.
>>720146808nigga I work at Target.
>>720146904Yes. The Age of the Liberalism came to a close faster than anyone could've ever predicted, just as sudden as the Berlin Wall fell.
>>720144051Where did you get those numbers, inflation calculators give me around 70-80$ in todays money, nowhere near 200.
>>720146914I'm the one who reported (You), psychopath.
>>720146904You had to be there. The kneejerk reaction boomers had fumbled us into a psychological hellscape.
>>720147070The fuck did I do, I called you out for being an expert in pederasty.
>>720146426>there's more generic games than everThat's not true though, fallout 1 ruined rpgs pretty much forever, and similiarly re4 ruined shooters AND horror games for like an entire decade. Only AAA games are heavily focus tested, but that's a very tiny portion of what releases and why would you play those in the first place? Furthermore, look at the snes. Umihara Kawase is the best and deepest platformer on that console hands down and nothing else comes close, but it's relatively unknown. If it released today it would have been a lot more popular. A lot of old games were really generic gameplay wise and the ones that weren't were ignored.
>>720146904>planned demolitionliterally easier to just gaslight terrorists and let them highjack a plain
>>720147257I guess any adult who's ever changed a dirty diaper in their life is a pedophile then, huh?
>9/11!!!!>it's all le nine eleven!!!!!1!!The same general cultural shifts between the 90's and now in the rest of the Anglosphere, despite 9/11 having far less relevance. All the things in the OP feel completely in place for Australia, for example.9/11 may have heavily impacted the 00's but it wasn't what changed things for good. That would be universal, normified social media, combined with general corporate bullshit reaching universal and unfathomable levels. It's not 9/11's fault the entire world had descended into hyper polarized retards, nor 9/11's fault that everything has been hollowed out in to a shitty subscription service.
WE DONE WITH THE 90s
>>720147128>You had to be there. The kneejerk reaction boomers had fumbled us into a psychological hellscape.I saw the thing happen on TV in real time. I was 19 in 2001. Not only that, I was also posting on a message board and reading the comments and people cried about it. I mean... the buildings were finished in 1973... they collapsed in 2001. They were only 38 years old. I had zero chance of ever going to New York to see them in person. They were always these background objects in movies and TV shows. The twin towers meant nothing to me. For all I know, they were never real to begin with.
>>720145574Except it's near universally conservatives who push for the phone bans, retard. I agree with them on that front but there's no need to drag culture war bullshit into this.
>>720141231>2020s>want to play game>open steam>click on game>start playing
>>720146353>102 DalmationsSurprisingly solid Spyro clone honestly. Really enjoyed this game. Toy Story 2 was awesome as well.
>>720141231>>720147594Funny how the tables have turned.
>>720138389>Will gen-Alpha even have nostalgia for other games besides Fortnite and whatever flavor of the week "friendslop" is trending?Very good question and that goes for other Flavor of the Week/Month/Year games
>>720139432Hey at least Kermit gets Pig Pussy
>>720147703There were quite a few really shit ones as well, like the Chicken Run one. Indoors, the radar would suddenly go crazy and make it feel like a FNAF-style jumpscare was about to happen, only for nothing to happen.
>>720140886>obscured because information didn't travel like it does today.And that was a good thing, people shouldn't know as much as they do now. People living in Florida shouldn't know about some school shooting in Nebraska or something like that. We're all better off with a little wool over the eyes.
>>720138389Gen alpha has its nerds that play other shit, just as zoomers did, just as millenials did.Your Fortnites etc. are what the average normgroid child plays. There's a higher percentage of them on that hyper normie shit because there's more kids playing videogames at all.
>>720147526how are there so many jeets
>>720140886On the contrary.The evil now is no more present than it was then, you merely have the statistically minor evils beamed into you and blown up massively. Fearmongering in the modern age is a million times more efficient.
>>720139341Peaked? PC was mostly seen as an FPS platform, seemingly just 'cause we used to sit so close to the screen. It was annoying. But the N64, and by extension Saturn and Dreamcast, could have FPSes control like twin stick shooters, only using the c buttons for movement and stick for the camera. Not much different from WASD now, is it? Just not as much precision as a mouse.
>>720139561>PC gaming was shit because I grew up in a random ghetto in a flyover state
>>720145998>but the 90's had bad things too!
>>720139561>>720148260Back when I was an underage zoomer, my parents pirated my games for me for free.Now, I pirate my games for free myself.
>>720132010I know this makes me sound old, but damn do I miss the 90s and early 2000s. Growing up in that time, I didn't knew lacking technological advancements such as online shopping and gaming made it so that people had to meet up in person all the time. Going to the mall just to try on some on clothing, shoes or product, commuting to Blockbusters, just to pitch in money for a rental so you can watch a film at a friend's house with others or to visit a relative just to play some video games on physical media is just unheard of now, especially for teenagers and pre-teensNow? My younger cousins, nieces and nephews do all their shopping online now, and when they game with each other, it's through online only and don't even use physical discs anymore. They just stream movies and TV shows now, too. When I tell them I used to visit their parents at their home just to play Donkey Kong 64, or at the end of the week, we used to meet up at the mall at an arcade, watch a movie at the theatres or even buy movies and games on disc or even cartridge, they're honestly surprised we would commute and waste all our time and effort for it.It's crazy how technological limitations forced my generation to interact and go outside more, to visit malls, food courts, movie theatres, arcades, etc because there wasn't an online alternative or convince for it.
renting games was pretty awesome, but it made me always feel sad because in my mind i wasn't gonna play it again cuz i would wanna try out new stuff. i never owned a real physical game for the n64 or ps1 as a result besides a single demo disc from a magazine and some xmen demo game from a cereal box.multiplayer was the best shit though. like playing goldeneye or conker with my cousins was hilarious. i don't think it's better than today though. now you have so many options with multiplayer games you can play with people, plus you don't need to be face to face. it's super convenient for when you have family in different parts of the world. i wouldn't trade that for anything.
>>720139452Nobody who fucking played PC games during 05-15 is retarded enough to fall for steam "ruining PC gaming". The fucking nightmare hellscape of DRM, massively overpriced games in physical stores, games relying on services like gamespy (or just their own) that never fucked worked, the general abandonment of PC in favor of consoles by progressively more and more large studios, the nightmare shitshow fuckhole that compatibility with older games generally was, and essentially the complete death of indie games were all huge problems.
The same even goes for children’s shows, they were much better back then I kinda have a soft spot for Daniel Tiger and Xavier Riddle, people overwhelmingly prefer older kids' shows, citing better quality and nostalgia. A few modern shows like Bluey and Bubble Guppies received praise, but many criticize current programming for being creepy or unoriginal. One person humorously mourns the loss of Zoboomafoo, a beloved show from the past.
Why of all threads was THIS the one hit with pedo spam? What's the angle? I don't get it.
>>720148664da jooz don't want you experiencing nostalgia... despite that being absurdly profitable for them and massively more reliable than anything new, to the point that it's the entirety of the entertainment industry now
>>720139597No no, you got a point Mr. Anon
>>720147526> Nigeria... So, what's going on in Niggeria?
>>720148775What do you mean? Literally everything is nostalgia-poisoned for profit these days. If your assertion were true at all, modern Star Wars wouldn't exist.You're dumb.
>>720148047>how are there so many jeetsmass inbreeding.
>>720148541>renting games was pretty awesomeDid you know this died because Nintendo kept suing blockbuster
>>720148936Mate you really gotta polish up your reading comprehension skills
>>720140513>Blockbuster was overrated as fuck.Which streaming service is overrated now anon?
>>720132010>was gaming really better in the 90s because fags are nostalgic for when they were kidsNo>was gaming really better in the 90s because it was before the stagnation of games in the late 2000sYes
>>720148775Cause the "it's nostalgia" people start losing then they nuke thread.
Crazy how early corporations started grooming kids into mindless consoomers. Why didn't we notice?
>>720134735The rise of social media made "15 minutes of fame" more accessible to normies; this in turn gave birth to a culture of vanity, backstabbing for clout and treating friendships as a means of networking to increase social capital rather than a genuine bond between humans.
>>720149019>The jewz don't want you to experience nostalgia >The Jews literally commodify and resell your nostalgia back to you for a profit on a daily basis actually >Dude, up your reading comprehension skillzShit bait. There's no way you're THIS fucking retarded. Shame on (You)
>>720149193Look at this idiot >>720148623It's always been this way, these people are literal infantile npcs.
>>720149021>>Blockbuster was overrated as fuck.You're right... in so many ways it was in the trash-tier of rental store chains.
>>720148857There's a lot of people there and it's undergoing a large degree of modernization (if not strictly industrialization). It's been generally reasonably stable since the 90's and is a fairly important regional power so it attracts a reasonable amount of international investment.You just don't hear about them much. I assume it's mostly two things, one is that Nigerians also seem to stick to their own circles on the internet, the other is that they have no major enemies so there's no state actors screaming at you to hate them (this is extremely fucking common and is behind a ridiculous amount of internet discourse once you start looking for it).
>>720149214Yes you fucking retard, it is extremely profitable for them and that is fundamentally at odds with it being the jews which is why I said it myself in that very fucking post.Nobody says "da jooz" unless they're poking fun at /pol/niggers, for the record.
>>720139359Kids don't hang out at malls anymore because many malls have closed down. Arcades, movies theatres, music stores, excuses we had to hang out are gone or dying too. Hell, there are studies where kids today don't go outside as often as previous generations in general. If I was a kid today, other than community centers, libraries, parks, or fast food, I honestly wouldn't know what other places or reasons to chill with my classmates after school. Many kids today just don't want to go outside at all.
>>720140705>vidya magazines were still the de facto way to communicate consensus opinions and that was obviously a one way exchange.I miss it
>>720149703>Many kids today just don't want to go outside at all.Wow they're just like me
>>720132010Your kind will never understand. And I'm glad you don't.
>>720149681>No one says "da joos" unless my redditor headcanonOkay, schizophrenic. Whatever jew say.
>>720149214>>The jewz don't want you to experience nostalgia>>The Jews literally commodify and resell your nostalgia back to you for a profit on a daily basis actuallyNTA but damn nigga are you serious? If someone is trying to SELL you something, why would they want you to be able to get it for FREE? Retard.
>>720148996wait seriously? that's so gay. i only remember they were offered a chance to buy netflix for like a couple million dollars and they declined saying online streaming was niche lol. hilarious to think about now.
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>>720149193It was no secret. Well known things like American Psycho, Fight Club and Idiocracy had been highlighting and condemning the detrimental influence of materialism and brand tribalism on people who grow up in a culture lacking any other value, most people just did what they always do, double down on blissful ignorance and irony.
>>720149910Retard. If they're willing to COMMODIFY it, why would they be AGAINST you experiencing it?Dumbass.
>>720149021I remember when republicans took away net neutrality, we said "without it, you'll end up with different stream services that all charge the same" and now that's exactly what ended up fucking happening. Right wingers fucking ruin everything.
>>720141231>Sign in because of "always online" is requiredFuck this bullshit with certain games, it’s such a mood killer
>>720148623They really butchered the Dora the Explorer movie. It was an educational show, instead we got a mediocre movie that peddled lies about the pyramids and accidentally implied the entire show was a drug-induced hallucination. That one parody by College Humor was a lot better.
>>720140705>>720149853You can still recreate the bad internet experience by simply not subscribing. You're not getting anything that stood in for it, though.
>>720145492>Now everything is bloated and honestly there is very little point to even playing a game at launch because it will probably launch buggy as hell requiring you to wait for patches.This. Back then when devs couldn't just patch everything online because they knew most gamers didn't have an console that easily accesses the internet. "Finished Product" mindset is something I miss because most studios don't care anymore and will intentionally release a game they know is broken but can fix later. There are honestly more games that I've played that were launched with serious bugs or glitches than games that were polished and only had minor problems recently.
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>>720150270>net neutrality,Holy shit that's an ancient meme
2000s were better if you were a teen recluse
>>720150796>mIRCdamn...i remember trying to dl some obscure shit on that. and also needing to talk with people about some server issues on a game. we need to return to irc. fuck discord.
>>7201427181880s? What do they have to do with the 2020s?
>>720143710Ahh I miss old school flash gamesHow is it possible for a roster to be simultaneously Ridiculous as hell and actually kind of Incredible at the same?5 Sonic characters and 2 Sonic OCs are the price to pay for having Mr. Incredible in Smash.
>>720149353The difference is the material I consumed as a child turned me into an anti-semite, the material kids consum today turns them into non binary ADHD faggots.
>>720150270I have the strong impression you don't know what you're taking about from multiple angles.
>>720146210>available education and medical advancements>EducationYou mean how worthless modern education has become because many majored in meme degrees or how corporations started implementing an educational requirement for basic office jobs or normal jobs that now requires a post-secondary degree when that used to be available to anyone who passed HS, creating? Or how even if you managed to major in a STEM field, corporations would rather hire immigrants with fake educational credentials and qualifications over their own country men because they're willing to work half the wage, despite evidence showing that local workers are far superior?>medical advancementsLike what? We have a higher prevalence of myopia, obesity, diabetes, dementia, substance abuse, and sedentary lifestyles. There's no way you can convince that the average kid is better off today than he was in the 90s, when the average kid is more likely to be isolated, obese, and sedentary. Having a longer lifespan doesn't mean anything if you're suffering more from it.
>>720143861>You can also throw in that full blown sequels only took a year to maybe 3 years tops.Hell, Smash 64 to Melee was only a 1 year gap
>>720136405https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMtf_ouMTHwi'm nostalgic as fuck for the early to mid 90s culture and music in particulardespite the economic hardships following the collapse of the USSR the feeling of optimism and relief in Europe at the time cannot be accurately explained in wordsculture went wild, you could do anything, be anything, it was like the 60s (but more gay)
>>720150796When talking about ages past I also say the 2000s were good for nerds. Mainstream society was going through the reality TV craze while we got a pipeline of anime, webcomics/shows, and despite what some people say here video games were great that decade.
>>720143861We’ll never get insane console generation jumps like this in gaming ever again
also, the internet is dead. there's nowhere to go besides heavily centralized corporate feeds. where has it all gone.
>>720151468Which one plays better video games? What video games did you play today anon? Hope it's not casual dogshit.
>>720144898I didn’t mention Silksong. I’m sure it’s a fine game, just not interested in indie Metroidvanias personally. Good games still come out, but I see too many of them become way too obsessed with pleasing players without asking anything in return. They’re like AI chatbot girlfriends.
>>720151814>where has it all goneThe economy got fucked so everyone began desperately looking for ways to make money off of everything, corpos became greedier, too many people began using the internet and COVID made everything even worse than it already was by the end of last decade.
>>720136154I've long since abandoned my distaste for gen Z and A. Unlike our boomer and gen X parents I staunchly believe we need community back, we need to help and uplift the younger generations. It always burned my millennial ass that boomers would harp about how children are the future and how we would fix the world but then gave us no help or encouragement and pulled the ladder up behind them. If things are bad for us they must be apocalyptic for the younger guys. I won't have kids for a number of reasons but my sister has two young boys and I worry for them. I'm gonna do my best to be a rock solid uncle to them because the rest of society sure as hell won't.
>>720151584For your future considerationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooGtmiGGcFM
>>720151638Faggots like him can't admit shits bad cause the world went the way he thought was right. More gays, more browns, less Christianity...it was all supposed to create a paradise. Instead wages didn't climb with the cost of everything especially housing, neighborhood trust is way down, and most media is absolute garbage. The GDP is up though.
>>720145998Kids just weren't exposed to the internet so they didn't know about news.
>>720132010>Was gaming really better in the '90s
>>720152001>I didn’t mention SilksongYou made a blanket statement when a game that just came out that peaked at 500,000 players on steam doesn't fit into your biases, which you didn't play because you play a very narrow field of games that were likely already incredibly shallow. Like if you only played crap to begin with your opinion isn't important and it's good that you are being excluded.
>>720152224Now post the list of PC exclusives released last year.
>>720151812I'm convinced that the next time we'll see something like this is full VR immersion like Ready Player One.
>>720151862I played a lot of RPGs, both J and W. I believe orders devs were anti-Semitic and did a pretty good job of getting the point across. A lot of villians believed they had a divine right to rule, much like kikes. I don't play much if any modern games cause they're not inspiring, mostly replay old ones.
>>720152516>I played a lot of RPGsSo casual garbage then, got it. Thank god you're being phased out. It's always rpg tards.
>>720152516Older devs*
>>720137892>obongo became president jan 2009>after 8 years of bush>therefore 08 was obama's fault
>>720152591What do you play Mr high skills, platformers?
>>720151812gen whatever will never understand the shifts and spark of imagination of what could be possible. Games are more advanced now bringing serious regressions alongside it.Things used to be about play, creativity and exploring.
>>720152303>picking consoles as your primary choice of multiplat games
>>720132154internet access has had its pros and cons but there was something special about videogame rumors
>>720150796>XFire>tfw met a girl on there and was developing a good relationship until I fucked it upBittersweet memories. Also, smoking is utter shit.
>>720146904It was a watershed moment in political discourse. Like the civil rights movement, Vietnam, the fall of the Berlin Wall, the 2016 election, Covid, etc. Mainly, 9/11 radicalized the American right, which in turn radicalized the American left, and so on and so forth and that's where we're at now
>>720132010The goys yearns for the joys of renting sofware.
>>720137635People are always going to be nostalgic for whatever crap they grew up with. I guarantee you all the zoomers and whatever retard spawn comes after them are listening to all kinds of awful shit on spotify that they're going to still be listening to and complaining about whatever beep boop music the next gen likes when they're old as fuck like you.
>>720152712>>720145750I'm playing silksong and daioujou black label
>>720152721Post how many games released on steam last year. Go ahead. I'll wait.
>>720152857zoomers have no culture, its all ephemeral. there's nothing left they can be nostalgic for.
>>720152947>post how many games released on steam last year. Go ahead. I'll wait.Over 18 thousand games.
>>720152001I don't get what this new bad thing is. AM2R is easily one of the best metroid games ever released, fangame or no. Metroid Dread is also an amazing game. I was annoyed at how goofy the EMMI's were but the last third of the game really pulled through. Don't you dare say either of them are shallow games with no potential for getting better as both of them have speedrun routes and skips built into them.
>>720132154>No day-1 DLC or cosmetic whoring>Every launch was golden, or the game flopped and died via word of mouth>Every online lobby wasn't infested by thirdworlder retards and the Chinese>Server browsers were the norm>"it wasn't that gaming was better"Get AIDS and get the fuck off my board.
>tfw born after 9/11i'm so pissed
>>720153345What's the problem then? Just don't play on console.
>>720149989>2018All spot on, and with the benefit of hindsight, now we have AI to look forward to taking all the jobs in addition to mass immigration. Also, trannies weren't even laughed at or dismissed at least in my case - I didn't know transsexuals were even a thing until the Vanity Fair cover of Bruce Jenner becoming Caitlyn Jenner.
>>720145574Source on this image?
>>720153448>What's the problem then?the severe lack of games on consoles that used to own the market? are you retarded.>Just don't play on console.I usually don't anymore.
>>720152663He's wrong, but most modern right wingers don't like neo-cons.
>>720145998I'm also 40 as well anon. But>Every generation thinks their childhood/teenage years were the best shit ever.The only zoomers I've heard say this were the tiktok zoomers. A lot of other ones pined for our childhoods, which made me very confused upon first hearing it.
>>720152778>smoking is utter shitIt generally is, but it's icing on the cake when it comes to drinking anything and socializing. Opens you up to certain crowds that are fun to hang with (briefly)
>>720132010Everything was better and it will only get worse.
>>720145574Take your meds retard
>>720153650>consoles that used to own the marketWhy do you want consoles to "own the market"? The level of cognitive dissonance here is insane. Now, if you want me to take you seriously, next I want you to tell me how many titles were localized for the US during the entire lifespan of the NES. Go on, post the number. Let's end this once and for all.
>>720151638Well said.
>>720153713>Opens you up to certain crowds that are fun to hang withI never drank until I was legally able to do so and have never smoked or done any drugs. I suppose that's why I never really was part of a crowd.
>>720141231>2020sAnd by the time you've done all that bullshit, the spark of wonder that keeps you enthralled is completely dead, like you've been sat down for dinner and your uncle slams your favorite food onto your plate before telling you he wishes you were never born. It's like someone nagging you, trying to be adult to you, ripping your young spirit right out of your foucking body where you shut up and start the damn game.
>>720152140>muh christianity!!!Literally kill yourself retard.
>>720132010no it's just boomer nostalgia>but I had fun with my friends back then!kids still do that
>>720139341PC was also annoying during those time as the huge technological leaps made it feel like you needed to replace your graphics card every year.
>>720148541My parents just literally never bought me any games at all. They got me an n64 pokemon stadium bundle for my birthday and smash bros for christmas a month later and genuinely just never bought be another game because they said I already had games. Those two games are fine, but they're not all that engaging if you're just playing single player. They'd buy all sorts of stupid expensive pointless shit. My mom had a room that she would basically redecorate entirely about once a year and probably spent thousands of dollars doing it and literally throwing all the old stuff out. But a $60 game a few times a year was out of the question.
>>720132010>Why can't I be 10 forever:The ThreadThere's a reason why millennials are regarded as the founders of soiboydom
>>720148616>The fucking nightmare hellscape of DRMYes Steam? inb4 starforce or shit that like 1-2 games had.
>>720152082You sound like a pretty good guy anon
iq is dropping since 2010suicide rates are increasing since 2010we had a good time.
>>720134735Smartphones. Life was still decent even with Internet becoming mainstream through pc and online games, but smartphones literally fried our brains and destroyed our cosciences. Kids are crackheads addicted to quick burst of dopamine, teenagers believe they can become rich with just one more tiktok video, just one more youtube short, the netiquette that was necessary to survive and navigate in a decent manner on the web is now mostly gone, and we're more alone and cynical than ever.
>>720153437I don't know what's more psychologically demoralizing - to grow up in good times and to think that things will keep getting better, only to have it robbed from you (millennials) or to grow up knowing from scratch that you'll never experience the good times (gen Z).
>>720149021That was the advantage of physical media. You did what you want with it and companies were impotent. The moment streaming came onto the scene and Netflix took off they realized they could isolate everything.Joke's on them, I've been pirating everything since then.
>>720154286>population increasing>so does sucideswooooooow how could that be
>>720154320>but smartphones literally fried our brains and destroyed our cosciencesThere was a small scandal here in my town just a few months ago. A man was attacked by a boar who had gotten into town to look for food, and a group of teens that was there with him started recording the scene instead of calling the police or the ambulance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYbe-35_BaAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8n11y2lxrE
>>720132154I do think games were better because technical limitations forced devs to be more creative with their designs. But you know what? You're right. The people of that era probably played a bigger role in why gaming in the 90s felt so damn good.
>>720132010Look at all those wypipo. Horrific
>>720150962There's actually some fancy IRC clients these days. Ones that let you group channels like Discord and even embed pictures/youtube into the chatrooms.
>>720132010yeah it was kino couch co-op with the boys till the early morning
>>720154320Yeah. The thing is before smart phones you couldn't really browse the internet easily without doing it in a static location like wherever your PC was. Once people got smart phones and once they became widely used then people would just spend all their time browsing the internet. It used to be in something like a classroom setting that you would end up speaking and possibly forming friendships while now if someone has a spare moment they usually just pull out their smartphone to browse the web or do something on their phone.
>>720153681>A lot of other ones pined for our childhoods, which made me very confused upon first hearing it.Because they aren't stupid and feel more attachment to what the world was like before they were even cognizant than the hellscape they've had to deal with during their teenage years. I see a lot of gen Z that pine for the world when they were 3 or 4, because it happened to coincide with the last remnants of sanity before 2012-2013. This can lead to romanticization and ignorant LARPing, but I honestly don't blame anyone that does this.
Every generation has this feeling. You morons know that right? You aren't special.
>>720132154Big time this. People are objectively less human now. All of our thoughts and opinions are prefabricated and conditioned by a machine algorithm.
>>720154850my feelings matter only
>>720154286>iq is dropping since 2010No, intelligence is going up now that lead poisoned boomers are dying. IQ is an average on a bell curve. As the average intelligence raises, the average IQ goes down, since the bar is raised.
>>720154905Unironically what the average 80 iq retard in this thread believes.
>>720137878The shovelware back then was better heh.most bad games back then were "interestingly bad" if there was a way to describe it.
>>720154212soiboydom is strictly a consumerist, trend-chasing, hype-following personality trait for people who would laugh at everyone ITT for thinking the world is worse now
>>720155031>Yeah forget how social media has turned people into sociopaths it's just feelings!
>>720154367gen Z
>>720155221>Yeah forget how television has turned people into sociopaths it's just feelings!
>>720148623shouldn't ponyshit be in the ''back then'' section
>>720132154No gaming was better, constantly improving in every aspect, very low hardware requirements, no DLCs or overpriced garbage or unfinished games.
>>720132010Excluding the n64 that looks like my weekends in the late 2000s,Do 35 year old boomers really think they're special?
>>720154850>>720154905>>720155031>>720155221>>720155307
>>720155409ok boomers, give me some good games from that era
>>720155307>Having a television at home is the same thing as a mini entertainment device in your pocket that is easier to use and can connect with people all over the worldRetard
>>720154850and every generation was right, now what, faggot ?
>>720132154The west used to be whiter. Whiter = more safe, more free, more interesting, better food, better art; there isn't one thing that has improved by annihilating western demographics. I'm not even being racist its just a fact.
>>720134735>What happened to us? Where did it all go so wrong?I’ll give you the real answer:>9/11 caused massive hysteria >Gaming got mainstreamed instead of staying a hobby >Politics became so divisive it invaded every other form of mainstream media (including gaming; see: Gamergate debacle) >Elon Musk buying Twitter made everything 1000 times worse, just because he finds it "funny" I think it’s possible to get it all back. But most people don’t seem to want that lifestyle anymore. I’m doing my part at the very least.
>>720154582Fuck man, the life in their eyes in the 1st one. The joy everyone had upon seeing a camera rather than the untrusting anxiety you'd feel now.
>>720155509Rock music RUINED an entire generation!
>>720155632Twitter unironically got better with Elon buying it. Twitter was an a cesspit, the worst shithole on the internet before he bought it. A pure brainwashing outlet for retards and a source of doxxing and harassment by leftoids. Its at least a free for all now.
>>720154767The fact that nobody uses a computer anymore is what really gets to me. Even if they're on their bed in their room, I recently learned people will just browse the Internet through their phone, and that something like 2/3 of the Internet's traffic is through a smartphone. Then I realize it all makes sense, and it's why there's such little OC anymore.
>>720155632buying twitter was a joke and they forced him, funny how they are crying like some bitch about it 5 year later
>>720155771>Makes a stupid argument>Gets called out on it>Is now about to start sperging outConcession accepted
>>720137504I see that a lot with redditors and twitter people who get on other people’s cases by saying they need to learn to grow up if they think it’s fun to say nono words as an adult (troll’s remorse applies for a lot of them if they were known to be rowdy online or in games 15-20 years ago). Of course these same people usually obsess over fictional series and have no children despite some being in their 40s.
>>720155918You made the stupid argument because you are the same type of retard who demonizes every new thing and blames every problem on it just like your parents and their parents and their parents' parents. Your ilk is literally too delusional to take responsibility.
>>720156037Not him but you really think you can compare a genre of music to the effects the internet has had on psychology? Any mental health professional can explain how the internet and social media has changed people in ways no other technology ever had the capability on doing at that level en masse. Hell I work online from home so I know it better than anyone. I’m lucky enough to have been a huge introvert from the start but most normies are screwed up in the head from all this stuff, the pandemic just made it even worse. Never before in Human history have we seen global levels of obesity and isolation like we have today.
>>720156037You're the one saying social media doesn't change people's brains despite the fact that there are countless studies saying otherwise. Social media is a very different and worse phenomenon than television and video games. And I'm pretty sure every parent in the 90s who complained back then about these things would agree.Just admit that you want to be "edgy" by denying this.
>>720156254Bad parenting is not the fault of modern technology.
>>720139132Of course he is ESL, didn't the fact that he had offspring tip you off?
>>720153853>Why do you want consoles to "own the market"?you are such a fucking retard. it's been a huge fall from grace considering how things were a couple of decades ago. that is all.now go be retarded somewhere else.
>>720156376Is it bad parenting when adults are addicted to social media and it changes their behavior as well?
>>720155825How is it any better? Genuine question. I think they just replaced the politically-heavy leftist propaganda with another politically-heavy right-wing propaganda. I don't care about this stuff, and to me, it's exactly the same shit.On top of that, it's full of bots and purely hateful posts by Indians pretending to be white. And as for gaming, only political shit is discussed, or if the character has horny designs. Good games don't even get any discussion on the current Twitter anymore.
>>720155825>Twitter unironically got better with Elon buying it.I can't tell the difference. I guess it's red instead of blue?
>>720156376Yes, but boomers are more addicted to Facebook, X, and mobile games now than they ever were to TV. They eat up AI slop and ragebait like it's going out of style. Modern tech, social media, and all the social engineering that goes into it is a whole different beast.
There are way too many fuckfaces, cocksmokers and retards now.
>>720156603>purely hateful posts by Indians pretending to be whiteThis is also why politically-themed video game threads on here are such awful quality and ritually posted over and over. Whenever you see a shallow post full of only 4chan buzzwords, out of touch sentiments that don't really make sense, or broken english, you immediately know who it's made by. A lot of them organize through Discord to spam /v/.
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>>720138962>>720141054>>720152857>>720141296Music, at least in the west, as a entertainment industry and media cultivating new talent and making an impact on culture has been dead since the late 2000s, you stupid out of touch boomer, in fact, it might be the first media to truly die when it comes to complete creativity Motherfuckers now have a top 10 tiktok song sand most end up being songs from before the 2000s being given new life in popularity. Yet you act like this is not true.
>>720155580classic racist buckler"i-it's not racist if i think it's true!"
Stay in your country shitskin.
