>fascism is.... LE BAD!marc laidlaw sure was daring with the narrative of this game
oh this thread is gonna get a lot of replies
>>720162276What would a "fascism is actually good" game look like?
Fuck this dumb OP, WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE GUN IN THE GAME? I LOVE THE PULSE RIFLE, IT FUCKS LIKE A TRUCK
>>720162276Half Life 2 is just boring and bleak in general, while Half Life 1 feels like 90's action romp through secret labs and sewers, typical, but well done and good throughfare.
>>720162362they already made Factorio
>>720162572>Cute girl who idolizes you and appreciates your help is woke???
>>720162447Maybe if you’re a brainrotted adhd zoomer. But 1 is definitely the better game, no doubt about that.
>>720162406Can't go wrong with the RPG
Lying to your community is also le bad.Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
>>720162572No, I would call it FULLY MODELLED
>>720162572I wish I hada. cute basian gf who took me to blm rallies
>>720162276Growing up is realizing the Combine weren't so bad after all.
>>720162276>Oppressing alien government that forbid to reproduceIs this some form of cuckoldry or you a combine bot? It's like rooting for jews or Muslims while being native citizen of an european country.
>>720162276The interesting parts of Half Life's narrative are the parts about the illusion of control and layers of oppression. Also the metanarrative about players and game designers.
>>720162276retard
>>720162362In practice, Ethnic Cleansing or one of those Doom WADs that turns all the demons into black people. Just shitty low-effort edgelord nonsense.If there was a massive Goebbels-tier propaganda effort to make something half-decent, basically Call of Duty with a comically black and white plot about how the military are all flawless heroes tirelessly fighting to protect the fatherland and everyone they kill is a subhuman degenerate who deserves it.
>>720162276Really nigga?Also, unrelated, but don't forget, you can write "sage" (no quotes) in the options field of your post.This makes it so you do NOT give a thread a bump when you post. This can greatly influence the staying power of shitty threads! Pretty neat!
>>720162276HL is not a political message.
>>720162572>wokeAlways has been.
>>720162276For someone called Marc Laidlaw he sure doesn't like it when someone Laid down the Law.
>>720162276The Combine aren't fascist. They are literally globalist, but on the scale of universes rather than globes.
>>720162362Hollow Knight
>>720162572I do call this woke. the devs of HL2 were openly leftists advertising their leftist, multi-racial melting pot is le good, kumbayah world view via their game by putting a multi-racial woman in it as the love interest. it was the old 90s kind of feminist and globalist propaganda where they still tried to make the dystopia seem APPEALING.now we have the next generation of the propaganda where it's no longer about trying to trick you into thinking it's a good thing. they're openly showing you how bad it is and that you're just gonna be PUNISHED if you don't go along.the messaging has changed, the message hasn't: accept women in positions of power over you and foreigners in your neighborhood. the only change has been from "this will be good for you" to "this is happening and if you oppose it you will only suffer more" as they feel more emboldened now.
>>720162362A lot of management games where you've got to keep order would count. Paper's Please as well as long as you avoid the endings that have you rebel.
>>720162572>>720164546>>720165030The difference is Alyx and Eli are good characters.
>>720165030No? City 17 is a melting pot because it's a concentration camp, you compromised simpleton.
>>720162276you are vidya illiterate if you think thats what the game is actually about
>>720163521Fascism was a fork of socialism.
>>720167878Correct. That’s why they both fail every time they’re tried.
>>720168070Ideologies don't fail like checkboxes.Socialists run the US at this time.
>>720168303What do you think socialism even is
>>720167735alyx and her father don't even live in city 17. nice try though.
>>720168735They've relocated due to necessity.
>>720162362Call of Duty
>>720162362Realisticly, fascism is not "good", but there are degrees of evil and fascism is nowhere near the top of that hierarchy. To make fascism look good, all one has to do is display "democracy" in the full depth of its malignant depravity, hypocrisy, corruption, and sheer, self-destructive insanity. Think blackmailed pedophiles running governments and killing millions to stuff the pockets of their handlers while lecturing the world about morality, as the demographics of their countries collapse, and you begin to scratch the surface.
>>720168303>Ideologies don't fail like checkboxes.wrong>Socialists run the US at this time.no, they are trying to run it and turn it into socialism.you have never opened a history book and don't understand how this works, even when nothing is stopping them from ruining everything it is the product of years.
>>720164921>Militaristic imperial government with intrinsic hierarchy and no individual rights including bodily autonomyUnironically fascist. If they were globalist they'd be focused on labor and material wealth extraction and not really give a shit about anything else so long as money kept flowing.
>>720169494>Think blackmailed pedophiles running governments and killing millions to stuff the pockets of their handlers while lecturing the world about moralityThis literally describes every right wing political movement, past and present, including the current "anti-woke" United States government
>>720169494As opposed to what, Salo? Everything bad about democracy is also present in fascism but is made less public due to a lower degree of accountability of the ruling class to the governed.
>>720169973Is this bait? Fine I'll bite.>they'd be focused on labor and material wealth extractionTHEY LITERALLY HAVE EVERYONE DO FORCED LABOR WHILE THEY PUMP AWAY THE OCEANS AND EVEN THE AIR LIKE ITS FUCKING SPACE BALLS,
>>720165030>they still tried to make the dystopia seem APPEALING.whut..
>>720170159They also sterilize them and keep them under martial law because they have no interest in keeping them alive as a consoomer class. There's a fundamental difference, you're just retarded.
>>720170159>THEY LITERALLY HAVE EVERYONE DO FORCED LABOR WHILE THEY PUMP AWAY THE OCEANS AND EVEN THE AIRColonialism? Very right-wing indeed.
>>720170110Neocons are not fascists.>>720170123Funnily enough not even decades of Soviet and Allied propaganda with nobody to keep it in check managed to come up with anything remotely like what we experience in democracy on a daily basis, about their ideological enemies. I mean even the crappy rumormongering like Hitler being a homo did not make it to the mainstream, much less any pedo allegations.
>>720162276>marc laidlawNow just makes skibidi edits on youtube. Dude's insane.
>>720170572>Dirlewanger was ackshually an angel and Nazis and fascists were good boys dindu nuffin mo money fo dem programsArgument from mental retardation. Your brain on /pol/.
>>720162362Warhammer 40k, halo, helldivers, gears of war all have you fighting for “fascist” governments against horrific monsters that want to kill everyone
>>720170572MAGA is neocon? The same political movement that based itself around isolationism, revising national museum displays, deploying state police into cities, rounding up classes of people in camps, and posting cutesy propaganda posters of young blond blue-eyed men to join ICE? That MAGA?
>>720162276Seems more like globohomo to me complete with them being ruled by (((advisors)))
>play Brigador>the whole plot is libertarians (SNC) fighting against fascists (NEP), anarchists (Corvids), and neo-conservatives (Spacers)i'll take 5/10 boilerplate plot and 8/10 lore writing
>>720162276It is bad, and thinking otherwise makes you a fucking moron.
>>720162572>ugly>saves Gordon in the first few minutes>replaces Gordon in the only follow-up to Ep 2Yep. Woke.
valve has never been woke and half life has no agenda
>>720170840I wish maga was even a quarter of what you troons say it is then we might actually see some improvements
>>720170715Unfortunately, a reactionary is incapable of understanding his beliefs are a set of emotional behaviors with emergent expression in politics and not a discrete, coherent ideology.
>>720171380Nigger, everything listed in that post is happening right now.
>>720170715Was Tardwrangler a leader of a country, you fucking mongolid? He was the equivalent of a colonel in charge of a penal brigade.
>>720171973You lost tranny, take your estrogen.
>>72017018590s and early 2000s media presented us with black characters and female "leader" characters that seem appealing. badass "based" black guys like carl weathers would portray in the 80s were an attempt to get normal white guys on board with diversity, not by coercion but by appeal. you could have a cool black friend like stallone or schwarzenegger have in the movies. don't worry, there's not gonna be ghettos and racial violence any more in our egalitarian, mixed future. it'll be fun! and there will be sexy girlbosses like alyx who are as capable as a man, and not lesbian or high maintenance at all. just give women whatever they ask for and everyone will be happy. we'll all be "equal" and that will be good. women certainly won't keep demanding more privileges or guilt-trip you about a wage gap that they themselves cause by being less capable and less willing to perform. they'll suck your dick for respecting them! if you're not on board with feminism you're just turning down free sex, really.this is the type of propaganda that gen X and earlier millennials were bathed in 24/7. zoomers probably can't relate but it really happened. feminists tried to be sexy and appealing for a while and it worked. multi-racial stuff was sold as cool and peaceful and that worked, too. kids and eternal normies ate it up.but those days are gone. if Valve ever release HL3 you'll see the stark contrast in how Alyx and Eli speak to the player, or rather in the type of wish-fulfilling, appealing propaganda they DON'T provide any more. you'll see what I mean if they ever make that game. eli will not be begging for you to breed his daughter any more. alyx will be more sarcastic, less feminine, less vulnerable, less needy etc.
>>720166630no they're not
>>720173967the first part of your post reminded me of this guy. marlowe briggs was a cool as fuck black guy in video games and he was criminally overlooked. and his game was only a dollar.
>>720165030God I hate you zoomer thirdies.
>>720162362it would look like shit, and play like shit too
>>720165030>kumbayahyou are at least 45 years old
>>720174224I'm not familiar with that but let me say for the record that I LIKE carl weathers and I also liked Black Dynamite (Michael Jai White) and Blade and some other popular black characters. I also like Tomb Raider and not just in a hehe boobies kind of way.the 90s utopian propaganda was simultaneously more insidious and more sane than what we have now. on the one hand it was completely misleading and dangerous. yet at the same time because it was superficially wholesome you can assume that all the people complicit in it genuinely didn't mean to brainwash the masses into a death cult. they didn't know better. I don't blame anyone who was involved in those media productions personally as it would be impossible to know who among them understood what they were really making and who just honestly believed in the positive message.the same cannot be said for anyone and anything associated with the present day propaganda. it's so transparently evil that anyone participating in it is definitely complicit in a morally reprehensible way. there's no>I thought we were on the right side of history, I thought we were the good guysdefense when you're making "white man bad, woman good, brown good" 2016+ propaganda. it's OBVIOUSLY evil and anyone who goes along with it does so because they carry evil deep inside them.>>720174808wrong and wrong. white millennial from the first world. you're a cancer.
>>72017499734. the word was still commonly used in the 2000st. and besides, I'm describing propaganda from the late 80s, 90s and early 2000s. the word fits into that era perfectly. you shouldn't try to infer my age from using a period-accurate term.
>>720175167then you consume and fall for culture war propaganda targeted to people who are 45 and older, which is even sadder
>>720162276The Combine aren't really fascists. They're more like slavers/colonizers
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>>720175320if you think the culture war propaganda stops where your skull beings you're more susceptible to it than I am. I know I'm immersed in it and have to expend mental energy to sift through the noise from multiple sides to keep a realistic outlook all the time.dismissing my takes as "propaganda targeted to people who are 45 and older" means you identify with propaganda that validates you for being young. information is either true or not. the idea that one should agree or disagree with something because you're young is a framing device used to convince a young audience. believing the thing we oppose? only OLD people do that! you're not old, therefore you must be on our side. they targeted a young audience and they hit you. you fell for it.
>>720175924i'm sorry to hear about your lead poisoning
>The suppression field is down Anon... you need to breed Anon... please Anon, for the sake of humanity.
>>720173967>eli will not be begging for you to breed his daughter any moreI hate the fact you're rightdamnit, it was so funny
>>720175409They are literally ZOG
>>720162276>fascism is.... LE BAD!You know, the main plot twist in the Half-Life universe is that the Combine Empire is impossible to defeat because they are so big and powerful that they can build Dyson spheres.And those combine forces that control the Earth - are basically small police unit that also consists mainly of the local population.The main moral is that humanity will resist and rise up for freedom in a doomed situation, in a battle in which there is no victory.If Half Life is really about Fascism, then what did laidlaw want to say?
Shit thread OP but I'll stick around to see more of this retard >>720165030 >>720173967 >>720175017 >>720175924 go full schizo incel mode
>>720176756>The main moral is that humanity will resist and rise up for freedom in a doomed situation, in a battle in which there is no victory.1. The humanity doesn't know how powerful the Combine are.2. The Combine doesn't just open portals to random worlds, with the Citadel network gone, superportal snuffed out and (presumably) Borealis dealt with in Episode 3/HL3, they don't have a way back and they'll cut their losses. The humanity is fucked if we ever run into them again, but, given how vast our Universe is and how they come from another dimension, it's not guaranteed.
>>720162362HOI4, Facism is objectively more powerful.
>>720176756giving in is for slaves and traitors.
>>720162276But a lot of the themes were anti-commie>eastern european town>dictatorship that's slowly assimilating people into a hive mind borg>imposing steel architecture ruling over a quaint city>passport, where's your passport?It gives heavy USSR vibes.
>>720177442>USSR isn't fascistjej
>>720177162We can act like the Jews.>Surrender to the Combine.>Infiltrate their empire with humans.>Make Combine Empire lame and gay.
>>720176756>The main moral is that humanity will resist and rise up for freedom in a doomed situation, in a battle in which there is no victory.or the intended message might be that you should do that even when it SEEMS like that. because reality is always uncertain and the alternative to "try to resist any way" is to make yourself easy prey for defeatism. if you accept the alternative you risk giving up when you had a chance. and what good would that do, on a population or species or planetary scale? imagine if the combine actually do have some weakness but humanity was run only by Breens who give up and comply. better to roll all or nothing, life or death now than to accept a slow slaughter. the Breen approach has no win condition. Breen was a fantastic villain.>>720177116sorry but this will be my last post ITT, it's bed time.
>>720177442>>720177536do wehraboos and tankies ever get tired of pretending that they aren't just the same exact shit?
>>720177549p.s. fuck. lied because I made a mistake. second quote was supposed to be>>720177008
>>720177538>and this will make humanity win and restore itself how?>win and restore itself?
>>720170110>This literally describes every political movementftfy
>>720177538>>720177549The plot involves a character who wants to throw humanity into the meat grinder war with the Combine for his own secret plans, while constantly encouraging humanity, giving them more chances to raise up even though the battle that still can't be won.Reminds me of something.
>>720177916Alyx G-Man looked absolutely fucking great and I'm tired of pretending he didn't
>>720177916except in the thing it reminds you there's the potential for escape. the individual could flee the country. the country could surrender and become part of the attacker country peacefully.that aspect is necessary for the moral calculation you're making (giving up would be better for most, maybe even better for everyone if you assume the right people flee the country in time) and it's entirely missing from the combine attacking earth scenario. there is no surrendering to the combine and then basically going with life as normal. surrendering to the combine is extinction, but slowly. it's no better than a fast extinction in an all out war.
>>720171782purely performative even those involved don't really believe it>>720171709>i am so smart and unlike the working class, am i right m'gentlesirs?reddit is down to the left
>>720177008sorry you're so below his level you can't see how correct he isoh and you're malding so much lel
>>720176198you're so underage it hurts
>>720162572>>720164546>>720165030>>720171279GCJ troons really loved this cope
I noticed laidlaw wrote one of the new love death and robots episodesit was pretty bad
>>720162362Take a crime-ridden place and transform it into a nice place through the magic of actually enforcing laws against violent crime.
>>720162572There are 4 different interracial couples in the first level. They were intentionally pushing that stuff. Didn't happen on accident or for story reasons.
>>720177538>>Infiltrate their empire with humans.>>Make Combine Empire lame and gay.That only works on people who are altruistic to a retarded extent, I'm afraid.
>>720162276>family unit abolished, families are intentionally seperated>currency is abolished, citizens only possess what states provides them with, including food rations and clothing>place of residence for citizens is constantly shifting, forced relocations enforced by the state>the concept of personal property and ownership is actively getting eradicated>distinctive lack of national imagery, we don't even know the official name of The Combine or the puppet government on earth>propaganda focuses on overcoming human instincts and "entering the next stage of human evolution">set somewhere in eastern europe, likely in a post-USSR countryYou must be retarded if you cannot put two and two together.
