>Dude, remember the main, cool feature from the last 4 games?>Well, now you're not allowed to do it without losing the game!The fuck was Crapcom thinking???
Probably for the best. Series was already fairly mediocre.
>lets try something different>Oh fuck it didnt work, end the franchise immediately.
Party fusion? That gave you a game over in 5?
>>720195139If only this had been the reaction to ruining Resident Evil with RE4.
I still remember this coming out and seeing it and my reaction was just what the fuck, man.
>>720195139>Okay maybe we overreacted, right?>Yeah, yeah, let's bring the franchise back>They deserve it.>Gacha
>>720195035Best and most interesting game in the series, IMO.>you're not allowed to do it without losing the game!It was there both for narrative stakes and to push people into the replay system. They knew that was going to be counter-intuitive for the average player and most people wouldn't "lose" without more mechanics to push you into the run-based gameplay. Dragon Quarter is them experimenting with game ideas more famously used in Dead Rising. Makoto Ikehara was Director of DQ and scenario editor of DR. DQ is a game way ahead of its time.
>>720195450This. I bought this game when it came out on the PS2 and thinking to myself what the fuck? I actually did a double take and took a look at the box cover and checked if I bought a spin-off or something. It's like buying DQ VIII but it's a grimdark mystery dungeon or like buying FFX but it's a chocobo dungeon. I played for a few hours and then just traded it back for half the price and bought Xenosaga lmao
>>720195035>jrpg fans when they can't just watch lengthy cutscenes and beat every fight in the gameit was cool, a game that actually made the forbidden technique forbidden and something you have to bust out when you're otherwise fucked instead of doing your limit break every single fight like most games in this style
>>720196208All I am hearing is,>This is retarded, nobody asked for it and it will kill our game saga>We could just make a spinoff but let's not lmao>Oh shit it killed our game>At least we were ahead of our time or something
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY CAN'T I JUST SPAM DRAGON FORM TO WINDQ's only sin was to not be aware that BoF "fans" are literal shiteaters
>>720197819Except the actual gameplay boiled down to literally "how to speedrun and when is it the actually correct time to push the insta win button to not get a delayed game over", not any actual planification, skill or anything of the sort.It was playing Fear & Hunger but with mandatory cutscenes inbetween each dumb death.
>>720197928Being a hipster isn't a personality, my dude.
>>720197997You're contradicting yourself, understanding when it's best to use a limited tool requires planning and actual knowledge of game mechanics and content, unlike the rest of BoF where you just spam your strongest nuke and heal when your HP is low.You seething and responding to anyone who disagrees with you only makes you look even more pathetic.
>>7201951203 and 4 are still one of the best jrpgs out there
>>720198102I am only responding to you, because I feel as though you had not played the game and you are just here to be mildly retarded and bait, yet giving you the benefit of doubt.So I will reiterate, the game did not have any planning; you could still braindead win every fight using an endless spam of lightning staff skills from Nina. 99% of the bosses simply melted as long as you got a turn for her in and kept pushing the button correctly.The only thing the dragon form was, was a cool thing that would have been fun to use which was instead turned into something you were not allowed to have fun with and if you ever tried to experiment with before the last two bosses, you'd get a delayed game over by just walking around and not having enough steps.This was not "challenging resource management", it was simply an ignore a mechanic altogether and play the game with as limited and boring tactics as you can - namely just using Nina - and hope you walked in the right direction unless you want to be forced to redo the game from scratch again with inflated stats so that it's extra dull.
>>720197997>It was playing Fear & Hunger but with mandatory cutscenes inbetween each dumb death.Where are the coin flips and RNG game overs in Dragon Quarter?
>>720198306So you're too stupid to actually understand how to play the game and we're back at square 1 wheree you're complaining that you can't spam dragon form to win, and you're still contradicting yourself as wellWell, it's not the first thread you make so I won't humour you further, have fun being mad
I only ever hear about this game in these threads you make. I'm just gonna tell people I heard it's the best one now because you cried so much.
>>720198629I guess I should have expected you are a genuinely schizophrenic baiting tool from the beginning.Good luck out there, weird thing.
>>720198189They aren't even among the best of the PSX
>>720197928The dragon forms were pretty much why i even started playing the series in the first place.Limiting it was just the worst decision.
>>720196208It was interesting, in a bad way. So bad it lead to the death of the series. I'm amazed that after 3 and 4 Capcom could kill bof so skillfully in just one entry.
>>720199823Your sentiment is unanymously disagreed upon by most people.
>>720199823It's on most people's top 5 or top 10
>>720198632people are going to think you're retaeded
>>720199823they are not only some of the best on ps1 they're still some of the best to this day even with new games
>>720200125Most people who?BoF sold peanuts even back in its "glory days", nobody gives a shit about it, which is another reason why capcom shelved the series after the four stray cats who cared went up in arms because they dared to try and make a good game that isn't just mashing X inbetween cutscenes.
>>720195035Good idea, bad execution?
>>720200853They went into the wrong direction after 4.And what completely killed the series was 6
BoF5 was great. It can be a little tedious at times but overcoming what feels like a grim and difficult situation is very satisfying. The dark atmosphere and the soundtrack are both great. There are also some interesting secrets like using fire attacks on the worm enemies to make them drop better healing items. People complain about the dragon form being limited but as long as you’re not retarded with it you’ll be fine, since it absolutely fucks up everything in the game. These days you’ll probably play BoF5 by pirating it, so since you’ll get to try it for free, you should just try it if you’re interested.
BoF 3 had the best Dragon system
>>720202708In fairness, it's the only one where the mechanic could actually be called a system. 1,2 and 4 were pretty much the same deal as summons in Final Fantasy games. It's only in 3 where you mix and match genes to come up with various dragons.
>>720202929Yeah, you could even splice with party members.
>>720195339Not him, but I actually did lose the game by being in the final bossfight and being forced to use dragon power to break the boss' shield, which put me over the last % and made me game-over.At that point i had been out of save tokens for hours as well.
>>720195035I enjoyed 5. I don't see why people sneed about it when it's one of the most memorable rpg's out there. JRPG's were easily the most tired, stale, and tedious genre at the end of their cultural popularity. Saying 5 killed the franchise is like saying Boudica's rebellion killed the Roman empire.
>>720205785>when it's one of the most memorable rpg's out thereYeah man all of those dark, brown, poorly-lit hallways are so memorable.
>>720205785>Saying 5 killed the franchise is like saying Boudica's rebellion killed the Roman empire.When other RPGs like Dragon Quest barely change the genre and manage to churn out 11 games it's not exacly unjustified for people to say that the thing that drastically changed from its predecessors killed the franchise.
>>720205931Did you think that was supposed to be a gotcha?
>>720205785It's more the fact that it felt less like a BoF game. Could have just made a new IP and leave the BoF series out of it instead
>>720206023ThisThere is some kind of Evolution to the DQ franchise but no drastic changes to the formula.That's how they should have gone forward with the series.
>>720195035>he not turning into a dragon to beat boss and do not get a game overlaugh at this autist
Timers, limitations and trade offs really set some peoples autism on fire
>>720197897Your game saga is shit, no wonder they send it into the trash when the best and most interesting game flopped
>>720206261This worked in previous games without the fear of getting a game over for overusing it.It's just a shit change
>>720206387*worst and most boring sorry I mistyped.
>>720199958There it isThe furry got mad there was a cost to the fursona
>>720206454your game serie is stil dead.sorry i didn't misstype
>>720206538If that was the case, i wouldn't need dragon transformations to enjoy furries in this game, literally every game had furries in it naturally.Katt is the most well-known one
>>720195035>wow they hired me to work on this dragon game>let me check the previous game>damn this shit is so ass>they accept all my new ideabasicaly
>>720195035It presented a puzzle solving element that becomes important at the end of the game. It does pad out the game if you don't catch on, but it's still interesting and I respect it.
>>720195035Momo is best girl besides BoF2 Nina
>>720206043Nothing about 5 would have worked if it wasn't a BoF game. The whole point is that it's a shitty ruined version of the world where everything is rotten and degenerating. The dragon transformation being the weakest version is part of that.
For some reason Capcom got very scared of actually allowing you to turn into a dragon after how insane 3's transformations were. In 4 the system was already heavily nerfed and it's a pity because it was the main selling point of the franchise.I'd honestly take a solo Ryu game focused entirely around different dragon transformations.
>>720195035>Game has THAT forbidden technique that shortens your lifespan>Actually shortens your lifespanKINO
>>720208029>final boss is going all in with the forbidden technique and turning into 100% corruption pure kino, but not a single BoF fan reached this part
>>720200495They're not going to know anything about this nobody game and they're gonna believe me because I'm a reputable guy.Besides, I heard this was the best one.
>>720208154In any other game it'd just be a cutscene because they aren't willing to put in a button that kills yourself.
>>720207950>Breath of Fire but it plays like DMC and Dragon Forms are Devil Triggers
>Buy 100 heal items>You're now borderline unkillableNice game
>>720208416>base form turns into a Kaiser form in the late game and it empowers all his other forms too
>>720196208>The new innovating mechanic is cockblocking you from doing cool stuff
>>720195035the dragon form is only good for killing bossesyou can use it for every single boss except one or two once you get it
>>720208154BoF fans have good taste
>>720208572>Ryu gets skins/outfits from across the series and dragon forms refelct that
Favorite piece of BoF trivia, the MvC3 team wanted Nina but couldn't decide on WHICH Nina
>>720207683Underrated Capcom girl
I really like draqon quarter. the game is kinda unbalanced but on purpose. like these seemingly overpowered methods become knowledge checks since you need to reset a few times after experimenting. the game is really lame if you just look up how charged twisters 1-2 shot every boss in the game.
>>720195035most niggers filtered by this never made it very far. they probably wasted their dragon timer dashing like retards. regardless, you can beat all bosses with monkey girl (Momo?) and her point-blank shot, plus some Seventh Sense once they start popping their shieldsalso once you get to the end of the game you can spam dragon form like crazy (Ryu dies anyway)a legendary game in a mediocre as fuck series still filtering niggers 20 years later
>>7202113382 has by far the best design, especially for a fighting game.
>>720211948Agreed. BoF2 Nina looks like she'd would go hand to hand if need be.
>>720211920Last time I saw this thread being discussed here, someone claimed the game didn't have a Fairie village, so they didn't even get 2 hours into the game where you get the ant colony unlocked.
>>720211920>BoF>RE>Street Fighter >DMCWhy do Capcom games filter /v/ so hard?
>>720212315this game also filters zoomies because it has some kind of handshake for saving where the save must overwrite the exact save the session was loaded from. I recently tried doing a super low % run but the game bricks your save if you use savestates. like you can load the save but you cant overwrite it after a savestate because the session is corrupt.
>>720195035The amount of dick sucking in this thread of a well known terrible game is crazy
>>720214000But we're not talking about Mega Man X6?
>>720214115Both are bad, and no revisionist history nonsense is going to change that
>>720214263At least you know X6 is dogshit
>>720195035Aren't you expected to lose the game?
>>720201115>They went into the wrong direction after 4not really. capcom was an arcade developer so making an arcade jrpg made perfect sense and was way more on brand than first 4 breath of fires.
>>720195035Will we ever get another Breath of Fire? Capcom's clearly not afraid of RPGs anymore.
>>720195035Didn't play 5. What was so different about it?
>>720215538story and atmosphere is very different, but the biggest change is to the gameplay and the dragon transformations.
>>720215538you could just play it. the game is really short, like 4 hours. but you wont beat it first try if you go in blind. it's struggle ludo.
>>720215538Imagine Devil May Cry V but it's a kiddy 2D platforming game and every time you get the Devil Trigger power up the game gives you the D rank every end of the stage.
>>720215538Basically it's a TRPG that plays kinda like Divinity, dragon transformations become a hyper-mode that must be used sparingly because while insanely strong it accelerates the global time limit, and save spots are few, far between, and saves are limited by "save tokens" (Kinda like resident evil ribbons)
>>720217265it's more like jrpg resident evil but it has magnum ammo counter embedded to the hud and if you run out you get a game over.
>>720195035>Implying people at capcom think thingsPeople at capcom are never thinking things.Remember the megaman legends 3 shitstorm?They only survive because monster hunter, street fighter and resident evil sell no matter what.Breath of fire has a lot of potential, BoF 2, 3 and 4 are amazing RPGs, people at capcom are unironically retarded for not giving the franchise a chance after dragon quarter.Also, Nina in BF4 is top tier design, alongside Momo on BF3.
>>720218671Nina 4 is my fave after Nina 2
>>720219413V Nina best Nina, and I'm glad more and more artists agree now than ever before.
>>720219595>Nina 1 is for marriage and continuing the Dragon bloodline >Nina 2 is for hard fucking >Nina 3 is your big sis who has your back>Nina 4 also has your back>Nina 5 is your little sis who you protect
>>720214000/v/ will always take the most contrarian stance over anything. Objectively terrible games are no exception.
>>720221158>I refuse to enjoy a game because my feelings were hurt when I was 12you're the contrarian
>>720221339>I refuse to enjoy a gameI look like this, and I say that.
>>720221506Chadposting is a such a cop out
Well that don't just beat all?
>>720215478After we get a new Darkstalkers
