Haru

>>720196370
The main crew don't feel like a team compared to the IT.
It feels more like "Joker and the hanger-ons".
Honestly in Royale I got the feeling that if Joker was given this choice:
"Would you rather rely on the Phantom Thieves, or Sumire and Aketchi"
He'd choose Sumire and Aketchi 8 times outta 10.

Seriously if Joker was to disappear the others would rarely hang out. Whereas if Yu left you could tell the rest of the gang would still hang out.

P.S. Ohya is best girl.

>>720196370
where to even begin?
for starters, it's a high school sim about a terminal white knight.

>>720196370
Akechi being the most obvious bad guy in a video game ever. there's way too many hagfag romance options and not enough loli adjacent romance's.

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>>720196370

Haru is at least a Norwood 3

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>>720196773
What the FUCK was his problem

>>720198796
a guy living in an attic was better than him, a celebrity.

>>720196370
no teacher sex scene

>>720196773
>there's way too many hagfag romance options and not enough loli adjacent romance's.
Really they should have replaced Ohya's romance with Sae.

>>720196370
>stupid cat cutting player freedom
>way too long, too chatty for its own sake ("RPG" is not an excuse for garbage filler)

That's about it. Great game tho, but 4 is better.

>>720196591
The IT is basically just the MC, Yosuke, and Naoto -- everyone else are idiots who just go along with whatever happens. On top of that, it’s the same MC-dicksucking haremshit as in P5.

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>>720199237
this

>>720200523
Very true, but the entire team is supportive of each other.
They don't beat the shit out their teammate who they thought was dead two seconds ago.

>>720200061
>replacing best girl with some mommydom fagshit
kys

I dropped it after about 20 hours. Just couldnt get into the main plot and that was that for me. The entire "rewrite people" thing was...eeeeh. P4 had a stronger thing going on with the murder mystery.

>>720196370
Haru introduced far too late for me to care
Morgana unable to take getting lightly trolled

>>720201170
This, after the kino opening the driving force for the story is way too fucking weak for most of the game and only comes into play in the later half.

P3 had a cool mystery with the Dark Hour and Tartarus
P4 was a kino murder mystery with your scoobdy doo gang.
I don't care about LE FUCK ADULTS

>>720201014
The IT are assholes to each other as well. Yosuke is treated as a punching bag literally and verbally by his team, Rise is a cunt to the other girls and characters in when it comes to Narukami and in general, Kanji gets shit from Yosuke and the girls, etc. The Phantom Thieves are assholes themselves though with that shitty moment with Ryuji.

>>720196370
The plot is just too childish and generic. Minimum cohesion between the team members that doesn't involve Joker. The characters are sometimes too retarded in the usual "japanese plot" way that makes it very boring. The final boss itself (not royal) was the most generic threat, ever.

>>720201402
>Yosuke acts like a perv
>gets called out on it
Justified.
>Rise obviously has the hots for Narukami
>other girls at most get annoyed with her obsession then just leave her to it
Nothing cunty here. Only real thing you could call her on is her rivalry with Marie, but Marie gives as good as she gets.
>Kanji gets asked seriously about being gay once by Yosuke in the tent
>afterwards it's just used tease him occasionally
Do Americans really not get banter?

Meanwhile, most interactions between the thieves are hostile.

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>>720201079
>best girl

>>720196370
Only one?
Boring

>>720196370
Morgana and futaba are annoying and the game peaks at the first dungeon ,p4 was leagues better.

>>720196370
Story is nothing compared to 3 and even 4. Characters, again, not as good as 3 or 4's. Thats checkmate right there but there is more
Morgana.
Egregious amount of pointless dialog.
Too fucking long.

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>>720202965
Here's the run-down on why Ohya is objectively, subjectively, metaphorically, figuratively and literally the best girl in P5R.
>both her and Joker have been personally affected by Shido which is something they can bond over
>puts in the most work getting Joker out of prison by a country mile. Seriously the only person that comes close to that level of help is Iwai making sure he doesn't get fucked with in prison.
>the only character that recognises that although Joker is this super dependable guy, he is also still just a horny teenager at the end of the day and doesn't scold him for being said horny teenager unlike everyone else (pic-related)
>She is the Devil arcana, Jokers main Persona is Satanael a.k.a The devil.
And most importantly...
>she's also the only woman in ALL of literature, media and history of Earth and all that will be, that acknowledges that she couldn't do better than her man and that he's also too good for her

>>720196370
tranny game

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>>720196370
Never ever

This game is just a 100 hour long Disney teen movie + isekai anime. It may not have direct plot similarities, but it is meant for and consumed by Young Adults. Go complain about Harry Potter and Hunger games elsewhere. High-school settings are for morons.

>>720196370
Incel wet dream simulator, smt better.

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>>720196370
Morgana only gets kicked once the whole game instead of once per palace, should have made him the slapstick relief

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>>720201079
>I want to fuck this sexy woman
>YOURE A FAG
this site never ceases to amaze me

>>720196370
Gay

>>720206837
Only reason people want Sae is so they can her step on their dick. It's utter fag shit.

>>720202172
This. The IT had their squabbles but there was still a consistent sense of camaraderie. Their arguments actually felt like friends bickering, not like barely-tolerant coworkers forced onto the same team. The Phantom Thieves, on the other hand, feel like they’re one disagreement away from blocking each other on LINE. And the Ryuji train scene? Still one of the coldest moments in the series. He gets absolutely dogpiled for being right.

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>>720208450
That's Takemi. People want to seduce the lonely career woman who used to hate them.

>>720208486
I genuinely believe Joker would prefer a team of him, Aketchi and Sumire over the Phantom Thieves.
I mean ffs he doesn't have a single combo attack with any of them, but he has one for Sumire and Aketchi.

>>720208880
You're a needle in a haystack.
Most people want Sae, Takemi, etc for the mommydom faggotry.

>>720209406
>I mean ffs he doesn't have a single combo attack with any of them, but he has one for Sumire and Aketchi.
That was total bullshit. Joker gets a showtime with Forced Waifu and Fujo Bait but his best bro Ryuji. Classic Atlus shilling.

>>720196370
Barely a game. I'll never understand why this series is popular with adult gamers. its such a "teenage" game in every way, even the difficulty might be the easiest out of all "jrpgs" (this is more a vn).

>>720200523
>and Naoto
I neglected Naoto because she showed up so late.
>suicide strategy that accomplishes nothing
>Kanji gag
>worried about being a female detective despite both of her parents being detectives

Let's not get started on
>"FEED ME! HYAAAA!!!"
>"Cooking gives me the ability to flee from my responsibility!"
>"I'm BEARly relevant!"
I would swap the three of them out for Ai
>shaping her self-image
Naoki
>has a self-conflicting reason to fight),
and the Fox
>better representative of rural Japan than a cartoon bear

Yosuke was a good character for the MC to bounce off of
Kanji was a solid character overall
Rise was a functional girl character (battle analysis, lovey-dovey while retaining independence, etc.).

I feel the male characters were better than the female ones in Persona 4. They simply had more going for them beyond appealing to the MC.

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>>720196370
ryuji is loud and retarded and you can't tell him to shut the fuck up
morgana getting pissy was retarded
ms smarty pants makoto was retarded
haru was shoehorned in
it should have been joker dumping ryuji after their initial escape, then joker + morgana going in and saving ann. Those 3 team up and save yusuke and then later futaba. no makoto because they aren't caught thanks to ryuji. No haru because no shoehorns. also akechi should've been less obviously the bad guy and never a party member
make it joker, morgana, ann and yusuke 5 man party no switching needed no extra characters

>>720196370
It has a lot going for it but I never felt like I was on an adventure. Just watching a sub par movie. I want to like it, but it's just boring to me.
I always love the idea of JRPGs and then get filtered 10 hours in. Other than Yakuza which actually makes me feel like I'm there, running around, killing time, meetin people on my own time.

Are there other jrpgs that feel like that?

>>720196370
Boring (especially if you already played 3-4)
Mementos
Dungeon gimmicks