Not only did they take your sequel without having even playing the first oneNot only did they jump into whatever is trendy without even enjoying Metroidvania genreBut now they are nerfing YOUR GAME and making it easier for THEM so they can claim to be real gamers to have beaten this trendy garbage
That's what you get for pushing a bunch of meme hype
I'm already late into Act 2 and these seem like reasonable changes to me.I found Moorwing straightforward enough, but was surprised by ho wmuch health it had so I'd hope they nerfed his health more than anything. I've since learnt Moorwing is a very glichty fight that can easily get stuck in the open area you encounter him in, maybe that's being addressed by this patch too.Sister Splinter did feel a bit too tough for an early game boss, it's like the 4th boss you fight and it's a significant step up in difficulty for the time you encounter it. I think a lot of players haven't quite grasped their silk abilities yet when they face it, and some may not even have a good weapon tool equipped yet either.
>>720204901Sister Splinter felt really easy for me. Just walk back and forth to evade its ground slams, cut the thorns, and kill the adds as they spawn in. Weird that so many people had trouble with it.
>>720205116Yeah she was super easy to me too, Thread Storm just completely destroy the fight. Maybe there's a path/sequence that lead up to her when you don't have Thread Storm, maybe that's why people are struggling with her so much?
If you don't beat have the achievements before the patch you will never beat the game, better get to it.
>>720205447>Thread Storm just completely destroy the fight.thread storm is easy to miss
>>720205809Easy to miss as in not getting it? Or as in missing the skill on the enemy...?
>>720205887easy to miss as in not obtaining it
to be fair, I never seem to have enough money for anything. Granted I guess I’m still “early” game I’m not even in act 2 but I just feel like I’m constantly going back to grind rosary beads for maps and benches and stuff
>>720206002you probably forgot you have all those rosary strings
>>720206002Act 1 is extremely stingy on rosaries for no good reason, while Act 2 practically showers you with them. It's really odd.
>>7202060977 years in the making btw
>>720205447I didn't have much trouble with her even without thread storm. The adds seemed overwhelming, but she can kill them with her attacks so your attention is never really split between them and the boss. Once she starts attacking you she pretty much always ends up killing any of the flying leaf guys you didn't manage to kill yet.
>>720204901beastfly is the only bullshit boss I've encountered so far, everything else has been easy enough for a hk sequel
>>720206360beastfly is optional, so a nerf isn't really justifiable,Moorwing and sister splinter are mandatory to progress.
Just don't update lmao.
>less grindy >2 irrelevant bosses are slightly easier, which doesn't matter to anyone halfway competent at the game because you wont feel any change and only turbonoobs will maybe feel some small benefitThis is good though.
>>720205447I beat her without thread storm, because I haven't found it yet, it wasn't hard>>720206408I unknowingly skipped moorwing
>>720206478I didn't realize you could skip moorwing
>>720205914>playing metroidvanias without checking every nook and crany those who miss it have only themselves to blame, what a bunch of fags
>>720205116I was able to get to Shellwood from the wormways. But I don't think most people are going that way since you have to grab the simple key. Honestly Splinter's adds are more troublesome than her once you figure out her pattern.
>>720206531rescue the fleas quest, and the flea caravan offer to travel with you, you accept and then they spawn you in moorwing, in the boss arena, I hadn't even reached that area at that point, so the boss didn't spawn
>>720206408You can skip moorwing. I did by accident. And sister splinter is super easy.
>>720206708>You can skip moorwingNobody would know that in a first time playthrough unless you cheat and use guides.
>>720206672>>720206478skipped the boss too, I hope it will become available again once caravan leaves, it does leave, right?. I hate the fact that there is a boss I haven't beaten.
People had trouble with the far fields boss? I beat him without even noticing the side air streams until the very end, first try, lol.
>>720206531If you move the flea caravan before you fight moorwing he won't spawn there. You still fight him later though.
>>720205447>>720206649Meant to reply to this post. The wormway path can avoid getting threadstorm. I'm on blasted steps and still don't have it.
>>720206776it's very easy to accidently skip it if you explore and backtrack a lot
>>720206834That's not one of the bosses nerfed. Dunno why they chose that image.
Did it make you seethe? Because if it did, then fucking based. Anything that makes this shithole of a board seethe can only be good.
>>720206776>I did it by accidentIf you got stuck and went exploring you would eventually skip it even playing blind. That's essentially what happened to me. I stumbled on the boss, didn't want to fight it yet, so I ran away and kept exploring. And before I knew it, I'd skipped it.
>>720206672wait... how do you normally get to Moorwing, I don't remember the map name.. but is it to the left or to the right
>>720206097I'm in act 2, had to grind 4k rosaries so far and still have shit to buy(granted it's the meaningless home stuff)
>>720204664This is why I'm for just having difficulty settings in the first fucking place.By trying to use a single difficulty to "gatekeep" your cool hardcore games, you risk shit like this happening that dumbs down the game for everyone forever. Instead of casuals playing the game casually and challenge seekers getting their challenge, you shove challenge down casual throats until it's removed as an option and forces casual mode on everybody.Dark Souls was a fucking disaster for player choice and modular difficulty settings, and shit like this is the price. It'll keep happening too.
>>720206776no retard. one of the reason why HK was so loved is because of its sequence breaking, and this game follows the same path.
>>720205447I don't think I had it on her. The needle throw oneshots her adds to so it's not to bad. The hard part for people is actually integrating those abilities into their fighting. A lot of people will just ignore the tools/silk abilities until the game clubs them over the head and forces them.
>>720206818I got him to show up even with the caravan still there. In fact, I used their bench to fight him. I don't if he just automatically spawns in act 2 or if it's because I took a quest from bellhart. But he was up where you come out from the tram.
>>720206608I check every part of an area before proceeding, am most of the way through act 2 and I don't know what a "thread storm" is
>>720207019Difficulty settings just turns into health bloat crap every time. Nobody's willing to go the extra mile and scale enemy aggressiveness and abilities.
>>720207061>t. googled how to skip the boss he got stuck on
>>720207019Difficulty settings just result in two or more worse designed experiences.
>>720206776i made the caravan move to skip him. it's gonna happen if you explore properly, as you should
>>720207159already no argument, yikes
>>720207206I select "No" specifically because I wanted to explore the area I was still in and there was no indication of where the caravan would go
>>720206408>beastfly is optional, so a nerf isn't really justifiableIm kinda lost... where it says beastfly is being nerfed?
>>720207149>I check every part of an area before proceeding>I don't know what a "thread storm" isyou must suck at it then
>>720206938Hang yourself r/gcj troonoid fuck. The pendulum is shifting and you'll all die in violence.
>>720207286it isn't getting nerfed
>>720207156They could just keep the regular difficulty the same and should have just added baby casual mode where they change nothing but you take less damage and bosses have less health or something. Everybody is happy that way
>>720207156>>720207329Funny thing is, you can mod it to be scrub-friendly but casuals are too retarded to do even that
>>720207329They'd find something else to bitch about. Muh rosaries, muh platforming. You can't share a space with these people. They're borderline subhuman. In their mind the game should just ne winscreen and an excuse to feel like they belong to a community.
>>720206972you can reach it from far fields after getting the cape upgrade, idk if there is another way
>>720207186this>>720207019no. the problem is twofold:devs not balancing their shit properly, alienating people too much because they made the game actually frustrating, not just challenging.and devs caving to normie demand, wether the demand has justification or not.there is also the third problem of devs then rebalancing their game in a worse way.most difficulty problems and frustrations people have with this could be solved by adding a bench in front of the boss arena or very close by.the runbacks in this game are pure tedium and wasting my time. the one in sands of karak for example was egregious
>>720207329>every time you select your easy mode save file Hornet tells you to get gud
>>720204664Don't worry, you'll get unnerfed bosses in Godhome update
>>720207736>easy mode hornet keeps her poncho on in prison
>>720207313I laff at your impotent rage.
>>720208306One misgender from a toddler and you'll rope yourself troon, you're not nonchalant, you are broken.
>>720208306He's angry, and he's going to stay angry for a few minutes. Then he'll move on with his life. You won't. I hope you can figure things out.
>>720206834That was the easiest boss of the game for me.Its attacks are very well telegraphed and easy to dodge. The hardest part is just anticipating where to land as platforms are destroyed. It's more a platforming challenge than an actual boss
>>720206834>I beat him without even noticing the side air streams until the very endI decided to use the streams because the boss was taking too long (10 minutes or so) and then saw the explosives...
I don’t think a developer should ever compromise their vision in favor of “general audiences” but on the other hand way too many people have their entire personalities entwined with the difficulty of the game. Lest I sound like a fence sitting faggot, both sides are equally annoying
>>720210327It's annoying since all of the actual problems with the game are going to but buried under the constant whining about the difficulty for a game that isn't that hard.
>>720205447Spear worked just fine for taking out her adds.
>>720210495exactly. Over the last few days I’ve seen perfectly valid criticisms either get ignored or bulldozed with other faggots saying it’s too hard
>>720204664I already am looking forward to my second playthrough after finding out there is a back entrance into act 2
>>720210683Well if that’s the case then surely you can provide some examples. Without making yourself look like a foolish shitter, of course. Go on…
>>720210780>making Sherma bust down the doorRude.
>thought I was getting baited>it's realFugg
Im still pretty soon on the game (7 hours exploring arround, currently on the beastbug), when this act 2 happens, when you reach the first big mark up there on the map?
>>720205116Same experience. I think a lot of people were just trying to no life the game over the weekend, tired themselves out, and failed to read cues or study boss moves. Everything in the game is very readable if you take your time with it.
disable auto-updatesput steam in offline-only mode until the game is complete. fucking team cuck needs to bend the knee to handicap journalists and adhd zoomer fucking retard players (half of which are from /v/)
>NOOOOO A FEW MINOR TWEAKS NOOOO THIS IS TERRIBLE THE GAME IS RUINED
>>720210793remember the types of people I spoke about in my earlier post? The ones whose entire lives seem to revolve around this dumb game? >>720210327? That’s you. All I did was VAGUELY point out that some anons had some valid criticisms and like blood in the water you start calling me a shitter despite the fact that I fucking said they SHOULDNT change their game
>>720204664If it comes out tomorrow then I got to the second lace fight with most of the sidequests done. You're all filtered journalists if you havent made it past last judge since release day and if the hunters march poggo filtered you then you're a woman who should go back to animal crossing or cutting my sandwich into triangles with the crusts sliced off.
>>720211341YesImagine if ninja gaiden black was patched because of casual faggots instead of the devs telling you git gud or play ninja dog mode scrub. HK itself only got like 1 casual patch and literally every other one just made it harder and removed exploits
>>720204664>you are being personally attacked and should be very upsetOP is a fag
>your gameNot my game.
Okay but how about every nigger doing 2 hit damage when it doesn't even make sense This is just like alien resurrection ps1 all over, those stupid Australian niggers played the game so much they got used to thier own bullshit and forgot about 99 percent of the population aren't speedrunning gods of hk that can beat pantheon with no upgrades
>>720204664BASED NORMIES
>>720204664Silksong already lost to Nortubel
when is it planned to drop? im very slow at progressing through games but i wanna beat it on the real difficulty
>>720212305who cares you heal for 3. you get so much silk while exploring and there's lots of free enemies that respawn. during bosses you can just zerg most of them, after you get hit you can get like 3-4 hits during your iframes which is half of a heal. people complaining about the damage are retarded. if you took 1 from everything and healed for 3 it would be waaaaaaaaay too easy. most bosses are like 3-5 attempts tops anyway unless you're just a pooshitter
>>720212920whatever man its a super tiny nerf to 2 early bosses like 15% of the way through the game, probably a few hits less on them. also boosting the early economy doesn't lead to you getting more overpowered or anything, since you could farm to buy stuff if you wanted. it will still be an authentic experience
>>720204664rosary prices need to be cut in halfin chapter 2 many items cost 700-900 rosaries per item, while you get 3-30 per enemyliterally hours and hours and hours of grinding the same big enemy in chapel is needed to buy shit
>>720213658then nerf the heal and make the damage fair, this is bullshit and you know it>Touch random giganigger boss>LOL TWO HITS
>>720204664Play normie games win normie prizes
>>720213783the crying buy is the worst, since it changes its sprite and hitbox when turning around making it 2x widervery easy to touch the edge of it and get hit with 2 dmgluckily i beat everything in chapter 2 already, lets say whats in chapter 3, but i assume i beat moast of the game
I can't believe how fucking bad people are at videogames
>>720213906yea you beat like 70-75% of it
>>720205116I had some trouble with her since I use wanderer crest. Its needle range isn't the best so cleaning the spawns was a bit of a pain.
>>72021488230% left? but where, my map is full from corner to corner
>>720204664I' at the cogworks now. If the way to the Last Judge was already "Path of Pain" tier for them, how the fuck will they react once they reach that point?
>>720215036well act 3 changes the map
>>720215086thats easy, bilewater is the real cancerlast judge < cogwork core < mount fay < bilewater no benches no heal debuf, long arena + cancer bossbilewater is where i expect huge number of players will be filteredmount fay is cancer too, but due to time limit, jumping wasnt that hard
Does anyone have a decent route for the meat parcel?
Enjoy your mainstream popularity, you stupid insect retards.
>>720215413You go through Blasted Sands
>>720207019only DMC, NG and Bayo 1 did difficulty levels correctly, with things like remixed spawns, new abilities for enemies, increased aggressiveness, no one is willing to put effort into games anymore,
he comes back
>>720204664>HK sold 15 million>This is irrelevant>because everyone else is a touristFuck off
>>720204664>pirate game>problem solvedwow
>>720215853So in other words I'm fucked.
>>720204664k then, negative review it is
>>720204664I like Metroidvania, I loved the first Hollow Knight (I 100%ed it 3 times), and I found Silksong artificially difficult. As long as I'm alive, your arguments are invalid.
>>720223383Nobody who finished hollow knight thinks silksong is hard.
>>720225958I literally did 100% 3 times, and Silksong is hard.
>>720226767Prove it
>>720206097>Act 1 is extremely stingy on rosaries for no good reasonwhat?I had a surplus of 1k beads by the end of act 1.i had to transfer them to strings and farm the 20 bead premium per string (about 5 mins) to make sure I don't loose that 1k.
>>720223383beastfly took me 5 tries.you just suck
>>720204664>make gorgillion dollars>still bow downwhat a bunch of cucks. I hope the review bomb continues and people start citing nerfs
>>720204664>turns auto update offNot my problem
anyone found a use for beast mode?access to only 1 charm and modification seems rough, and the delay and arch on its downward slash is aids.its dash attack seems strong tho.
>>720227661I literally finished the game yesterday, but that doesn't change the fact that it's hard. What's wrong with people here? You can only find a game difficult if you get stuck on a part? Jesus, news to you: You can pass something on your first try and still think it was hard. There are only idiots on /v/, my god.
>>720204664Just add a baby's first game difficulty level. Let them be taunted by playing at below normal.
>>720204664>yesterday see a thread saying only trannies enjoy "meme difficulty" games like Silksong>today it's a thread where people are mad about difficulty being taken awayI hate this board
>>720228014it's just speedrunner max damage mode
NOOOO!!! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I GET HIT ALL THE TIME!!! THE RANGE IS SHIT... WHAT!?!?!?!? CHANGE THE WANDERER CREST!!!! BUT MY POGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>720207736Lock casual mode players out of certain endings, they deserve to be punished
>7years in development>has to make drastic changes in less than a week.shameful
>>720207156Fucking hell, you faggots are so godamn retarded. Here's how you do it, it's not rocket surgery you fucking niggers: >Devs make the game they want to make, as hard, as unforgiving as they want it to be >Call it "True" or "Classic" or whatever makes your virgin penis hard >Then make another mode with SLIDERS for enemy damage, player health, etc. >Call it baby casual hahaha you'll never be an epic gamer like me, so it makes your virgin penis hard There, everyone is happy. Was it so difficult? :'(
>>720228840>Was it so difficult?Are you a programer?
I blame trannies for this. They ALWAYS ruin everything.
>>720204664Normalfags own your hobby now and don't you forget it, chud.
I blame Vtubers for this, the majority of the streamers that played the game don't got any problem but Vtubers were the ones complaining about the difficulty
>>720204664I would say keep crying but I doubt you even play the game, yesterday you were probably making bait threads about how people need to get good. In fact none of the changes being made even affect the game much. Double damage isn't being removed across the board, they aren't added a closer bench to Last Judge, they aren't reducing Silk for healing and skills.
redditors won
>>720223383>artificially difficultwhat does it mean?
>>720229076this anon spreads lies, it's actually the other way around
>>720229508Nigger, I literally just open youtube and looked for any Vtumor playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPevPXvwSuQand by looking this you can easily see why the complain come from here, they're the most useless shit that complain when they play the game like fucking shit
>>7202294202 damage even for the scenario is a good example. Getting to Act 2 with 5 health masks is insane; you're forced to pogo on saws that deal 2 damage, literally only 3 attempts, lol. And worse, if you get 1 mask upgrade, it CONTINUES 3 ATTEMPTS. This is the first time I've seen you need 2 health upgrades to feel the slightest difference. This game is indeed artificially unfair; it makes no sense. I'm glad I've already beaten it; I'll never open it again, not even with a patch.
>>720229865>phase-connect there's your problem
>>720229865> hit one time>get away 10 fucking meters and then return to hit again and escapeLmao
>>720229865>wanderer crest>defensive playstyleThere the problem
>>720205116I didn't have that much trouble but the spinning mobs were annoying as fuck
>>720205447>>720205116>>720204901It's just the adds that are trouble if they start spinning.>>720206818It returns to the floor above the caravan at some point. Though the caravan can move again so it could also go back to that room too.
>>720204664>Being proud that you sat in front of a screen doing nothing productiveIt's escapism, it's meant to be fun, stop shaming othersIf an autistic "fandom" is enough to make you not want to partake in your hobbies then that just goes to show how weak you areThe majority has decided, either leave defeated or go out with a whimper, either way you're pathetic.
>>720205116If you miss the adds even once you are quickly overwhelmed by the boss attacking you while the adds crowd you and god forbid you get hit by them and locked in place the boss will one-shot you.It is easy if you are calm and quicky 3-hit the adds, but that takes perfect play.
You developer vision fags act so smug but then turn into seething losers as soon as the devs realize they made a mistake and your whole worldview comes crashing down.
>>720204664and dont you forget it, fag.
Whoever says the rosary economy isn't shit can go suck my ass. I'm at act 3, the game barely gives you enough rosaries and you WILL need to grind. You also need to use the magnet charm for the entire game, otherwise many will fall offscreen or atop of spikes. That considering I've only lost a somewhat significant amount of rosaries to death twice in 30+ hours of gameplay. Most stuff you can buy is complete shit, just invest on the tool damage upgrades and you can beat the game with just the initial tools you find in the early game.
>>720204664Based. As it is, Silksong isn't fun for sexhavers.
>>720204664Imagine trying to gatekeep one of the most successful indie games ever. You people are genuinely retarded.
>>720229895How is this artificial difficulty? That is just normal difficulty. Having low health is a standard part of video game difficulty balancing.
>>720229420It's a meme phrase from 2012 that people started using when DS came to PC and needed an excuse to say something was hard but without admitting they sucked.
>>720229420Real artificial difficulty is stuff like random parts of the floor instantly killing you without any warning. Or bosses/enemies doing 0 frame lead up huge damage attacks at random. Silksong doesn't have any of that.
>>720204664You lost
>>720204664So glad I pirated this. I get to play on the true difficulty instead of whatever gay patch they're making for le dad gamers.
>>720233238By that logic what's the point of gatekeeping anything?
>buy sequel to a shit game>buying games in beta versionyou shills are so funny
Imagine Castlevania 1 coming out in the age of the internet. Everyone would ask Konami to nerf death or some shit. Grim times.It is part of why new games don't have a lasting identity. Any rough edge that could give a game interesting texture/character is sanded out in the name of balance or other ill minded pursuits.
