Bilewater is kicking my ass, should I just come back later?
>tfw resting at the pilgrim camp after beating the Weaver
>>720212798HOW DO I CLEAR THE FLEA JUGGLE MINIGAME GOD
What do the actual game-players make of the nerfs?
mount fay was a meme, i hate you retards.even the cogworks section where you had to time jumps was more challenging
>he didn’t beat the game before the patchKWAB
>>720212927Honestly fuck moorwing, i do not mind that being nerfed
>>720212927i'm gonna be done with this game before the patch releases so idc
>>720212927irrelevantWhere is the last pouch upgrade? Also missing 1 mask shard for 9 masks
Anyone know of a better farm spotThis works out to like 3200+ p/h
>>720212986grats, you realized you have to use harpoon instead of pogo and actually manage your silk with floatmost people cant do such basic thing
Fastest in Pharloom wish says go to the farthest feild in far fields but hes not there?
>>720212927>all easy shit that I already got pastSeems performative since anyone still stuck on Moorwing is a giga casual.
I figured out why so many retards want to fuck Hornet. She's basically Saber.
>>720212917juggle them, i used wanderer crest
>>720213037wow nice farm spot, but there's nothing to spend currency on at this point in the game
>>720213037nah this is the bestits removed in a3
>>720212927It's alright. Sandcarvers nerf will probably make people stop complaining about the last judge runback. Good bugfixes though, I encountered most of those lol.
>>720212798It's a pretty optional area, you can totally explore elsewhere.>>720212905SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER>>720212927As somebody who is about to clear the game...Pretty good balance fixes. Money is very scarce in midgame, which is where it arguably matters the most. Ideally I'd also like some kind of money buff for endgame, since I just had to spend a while farming money for last few tools, but oh well. That's just for completionists.The damage nerfs to those two bosses is also fine. I imagine they are going to change Sister Splinter to only deal 1 contact damage, and make Moorwings projectiles and contact damage also be 1.
>keep running pounded by Last Judge over and over>keep getting frustrated>keep seeing Sherma sleeping peacefully when I get warped back to the bench>keep hearing her cute chant in my head>keep trying
>>720213078its in a secret part of far fields you can only get to with the super jump from another zone. its something you saw early + its one of the doodles on the world map
>>720213056>manage silki just spammed the harpoon without a second thought because it always regens to 2 with weavelight which i've had equipped since forever. maybe thats the reason the entire place felt too easy
>>720213056If you have that regen amulet thing you get 2 perma bars instead of the one. No management necessary.
>>720212986cogwork is way easier even without double jumpmount fay you drop into the lake once and you have to redo it again
>>720213171>her
>>720213195its easy regardless sometimes you just need to wait like 0.5s to get to the peak of your jump but mount fay was not that bad at all especially if you did stuff like path of pain in hk1
>>720213121idk about you anon but i didnt buy shit from almost any vendor
>>720213078Yeah, like the other Anon said, it is not the Weaver den, but area higher up.
thanks to a warning from another anon, i fixed the broken tool on mount fay and unlocked THE GUN.
>there's a path from wisp thicket to underworksGood thing I haven't done the oil mission yet
>equip reaper's crest>kill him in one goHuh. Well then.
>>720212927>>720213086personally i think it'd be a win if more casuals got to experience act 3 before they decided to drop the game before they realized they were getting good because a lot of the early game is admittedly pretty bullshit in design, feeling like artificial difficulty instead of genuinely challenging. i don't like the idea of nerfing bosses (except maybe beastfly because fuck that nigger) but what does double damage feels completely arbitrary a lot of the time, like a stunned boss shouldn't be doing 2 masks of contact damage.
>>720213276i bought literally everything and it can't amount to more than 3k rosaries
What IS greyroot?Is it cordyceps?
>>720213312ALSO once you get to mount fay, you can complete it as long as you have the grappling hook. i ignored it for way too long thinking i needed an ice resistance tool.
how do you get walled by an optional boss?
>>720213037Killing all the big guys along the Cog Dancer path gives 250 and no way that takes more than 5 minutes so it should be more in an hour, not as braindead to kill though
Did he die?
>>720213363why would you be taking contact damage from a stunned boss and then complaining? the healing is overwhelmingly abundant, literally in one stun you can get a full amount of silk back for a heal, the game is really not that hard. when you're exploring basically you can heal after every hit. there's a few annoying ass areas like bilewater etc but i mean, it is what it is, there's always gay nigger swamp areas. if everything was just holding right killing noob enemies it would be boring
>>7202133632 masks of contact damage and the devs refusing to put benches close to almost all bosses is really the only thing I agree on with people who are upset about the difficulty
>>720213037for me it's the long hallways next to songclave (where you fight the gay clankers) because those are not so tough after you learn their pattern and they drop quite a bit of money, with a bench really close by to respawn them. i farmed 800 to buy a charm there in like 3 minutes.
>>720213270My mistake, the voice threw me off
>>720213363Anyone having trouble with sister and moorwing is not getting to act 3.
I'm going to try to spam the first silk art next boss fight and abandon healing.I almost haven't used silk arts the entire game.
>>720213387You can't have found every vendor or didn't unlock their new stock, First Shrine and Thief guy together would come to more than that and that's before the house upgrades (which are mostly useless at least)
>>720212927These are all fine. If these were like, late game nerfs i'd be more concerned, but given how unforgiving the beginning of the game can be and how scarce money is, i'd say these are reasonable changes.
>>720213561You heal for 3 hearts.In hollow knight enemies did 2 hearts of damage and you only healed for 1 at a time.I don't get this complaint at all.
>>720213357>Long range>Good pogo>Healing with an install that generates silk for more healing>Downside (attack speed) doesn't matter that muchReaper seems to be the flat out best/safest crest to use in the game
>>720213493>why would you be taking contact damage from a stunned boss and then complaining?i fucking hate contact damage with a burning passion, but i don't complain if the game clearly has it and i just bump into an enemy even if it's stunned. my issue isn't that i'm getting damaged from a stunned enemy, my issue is that i'm getting DOUBLE damaged from a stunned enemy. even if i really don't like how even a fly's fart can do double damage to you at least it makes sense if it's like a super heavy hit or something that does continuous damage (e.g. multiple slashes), but a stunned enemy doing double damage feels completely arbitrary and artificial.
>>720213478Nah bro, he's just sleepy.
>>720213037>3200+ p/hmore like 13000 if its 46 rosies every 13 seconds
>>720212927Irrelevant to good changes, eg. less grinding.
>>720213646I guess I must have missed some stuff, I'm getting near the end of act 2 I think
>>720213689"DOUBLE damage" from what? from hk1? this isnt hk1. the healing economy is balanced around the fact that you heal 3 up super fast. when theyre stunned you get almost a full heals worth of silk from wailing on them. once you have 7+ hp its really not a big deal, you can unga bunga through most things, jump away, heal, and unga bunga more into a stun -> get your silk back -> heal as they get unstunned and you're back to full. the game is honestly a bit too easy in my opinion and im not even some gamergod
Where's the Abyss map
>>720212927Sister Splinter is getting nerfed? She was piss easy.Moorwing was a pain, but you had an ally during that fight that made it significantly easier than it could have been.
>>720212927>sister splinterwhat absolute shitter is getting filtered by her, i beat her first try and im not even that good at this game lol
I just read that the fleamaster is supposed to give you a trinket after you find first five fleas, but I didn't get anything (and I'm at the end of act 2 by now).Did I get scammed?
>>720213535>Myla gets a good ending>But its at the cost of garmond
>>720213858go upwards from the bottom bench
>>720213858dont remember but it was close to the beginning and it was up through a ceiling, so look up as you explore the earlier parts
>>720213651You need a full Silk bar and any overhealing is wasted whereas in HK you could do it with a third of that so it was easier to recover chip damage and that's before shit like the double healing charm, also not every enemy or boss did 2 points though all the later ones probably do, Grimm is honestly the first one I can think of who does it, God help you if you get interrupted as well cause you lose the whole bar
>>720212927don’t care
>>720213689This. I would've preferred that they only deal 1 damage or none at all until it recovers
Who the fuck is sister splinter, i dont remember her at all
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWHY GALMOND WHYCANT I SAVE HIM??
>>720213848>"DOUBLE damage" from what? from hk1? this isnt hk1.what kind of question is this? should i have said "2 masks of damage" so that you didn't get confused? the fact that you can easily heal doesn't change the fact that it's a bad design choice. i don't have to have my experience personally ruined by an anecdotal frustrating situation to see it.
how do you gain access to the area to the right of far fields?I already tried the needolin+charm
>beat widow before fourth chorus>looking at steam achievements this looks massively out if intended orderWhat the fuck? What’s the god damn intended area order in this game. I went all the way through the area with fourth chorus and never even found a god damned map.
>>720213980she was the shellwood boss
Wow, this was the easiest boss in the game by far.
>>720213952yea i would have preferred if none of the enemies hurt me and sat there politely while i kill them all the game would be way better if there was no consequence. i should be able to walk into enemies that are stunned and not moving and the game shouldnt punish me
Doing the last bosses and exploration before finishing the game. Getting really sick at the fucking runbacks only thing I legit hate about the game. I don't even get it hollow knight had the nail teleport to avoid this shit but now I gotta watch 4 animations, 3 braindead platforming sections and kill 10 enemies before I'm allowed to have fun
>>720212927>Moorwing>Sister SplinterPeople were getting filtered by these two? The former was decently tough made way easier by calling in the warrior guy for help and Sister Splinter is fucking braindead the moment you learn to break her vines immediately and use your Silkspear against her goons
>>720213907I wasn't aware it could end any differently
>>720213672I think it's one of the worst and it's a trap. You have awful damage with it, every bosses will take ages to kill. I think the top 3 would be something like Architect > Wanderer > Fully upgraded Hunter.
>>720213858go over the lake
>>720213980Tree lady that hangs from the ceiling in shellwood. Honestly not very hard, though she has annoying summons.
What they really needed to do was turn down the worms instead of nerfing them, holy fuck these are P5 Tiso loud
Anyone else had Radiance flashbacks during this fight? Playing the first game definitely makes some parts of silksong easier.
>>720214015its a fine design choice in my opinion, some stuff still does 1 damage and it should be punishing. especially once you get have 7+ hp its pretty easy, i also am using fractured mask so its an extra cheat death. there's SO MANY opportunities to heal, basically no boss is super aggressive, instead of a damage window you can just jump away to heal. by the time you take 2 hits you have so many iframes you can easily get 8-10 hits in return which is a full silk. meaning if you take 2 hits you can literally refund 75% of the damage taken while doing like 20% of the bosses hp. you can literally go full unga on a lot of bosses
>>720214021You didn't get the float cloak? I didn't even know you could get to bellhart without it (maybe using the flea caravan for the greymoor skip?)
>>720214036>I think that stunned enemies doing 2 damage feels non sensical>WOW OK SHOULD WE JUST HAND YOU THE CREDITS IN A SILVERPLATTER NOW? GIT GUDYou niggers lack any sort of nuance.
>smash blue thing in wormways after having done quest there>free temp healthcool
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>720214021well you just didnt backtrack after doing 4th chorus, you can do it immediately after getting the float cloak, i backtracked to try to find air vents to fly up and explore since i knew there were a lot on the way, and happened to stumble into 4th chorus. its a metroidvania though so doing things out of order is the fun part
that ant merchant better not be dead when I break that wall
>>720214217>walks into stunned enemy>OMG WHY ARE THEY HURTING ME THIS IS BULLSHIT THEY ARE STUNNEDthey literally arent even moving bro you are complaining about an inanimate npc, just dont walk into it lol
>>720214169shes pretty much slower and easier radiance-like balanced around lack of shade dashto be honest doesnt deserve a title card whatsoever, needed to be harder but also i understand why shes not
>>720214021the intended order is like a wide S where you fill side areas after you get abilities
Doko? I thought he would be near the weavenest but he's not
>>720214217Nah bro I get it, nothing should pose any challenge at all, fuck playing a video game just give me the I win button, no challenge, no fun just one hit kills so I can move on to the next game like a robot
>>720214210Yeah I took the fleas pretty early on.
>>720214184oh don't get me wrong, i fucking love the enemy design and especially the bosses and how aggressive i can be against them. but like i said, i don't need to personally have a problem with something like a stunned enemy doing 2 masks of damage to think it's randomly inflated difficulty. my bigger complaints about the game seem harder to fix because they'd involve some redesigning but essentially they boil down to feeling like the game wants to waste your time.
>>720214059You underestimate the power of a good pogoAnd most later bosses don't have that much of an attack window for regular attacks
>>720214341its not in an area of farfields you have yet, it's from a secret part of farfields you can only get to by using the super jump in another zone. its on one of the doodles on the map and its somewhere that you went to very early that had no use. if you are on the part of the quest where you have to get 3 hearts then its near one of them
>hornet wakes up if you start the game fron her bellhome Cute.
>>720212927>moorwing nerfFair enough>sister splinter nerfIt was already too easy
>>720214036Stop being such a faggot. It's only logical that I thought a staggered enemy can't deal damage if I touch it unless it has spikes or something on its body. It's only a minor complain. It's not like I'm asking for a win-now-button charm
>>720214313The original complaint wasn't that the stunned enemy is damaging you, the complaint was that the stunned enemy is doing 2 masks of damage, which is a completely reasonable complaint. But aside from not being able to discuss things like a human being you're also an illiterate retard, so I get it.>>720214375Why did you just prove my point?
>>720214452oh wow. I actually finished the game and when I was looking for the verdania's heart I actually super jumped a lot in far field but didnt find anything. will look better thank you
>>720214421yea i agree the game is not without criticism, some of the run-backs are retarded and the quests to collect 25 bear asses is pointless and gay, but stunned enemies hurting me is never something i had a problem with.. they are stunned.. just dont walk into them. throughout the game i actually CONSTANTLY found myself thinking "you get waaaaay too much healing in this game". every time i would get hit i would be able to heal, by the time i kill another 1-2 enemies you have a heal back again. you can LITERALLY afford to get hit by almost every single enemy, they take 4-6 hits to kill and it takes like 8 or whatever to get a heal back. a lot of the bosses have a LOT of opportunity to heal and there was never a point where i felt the boss was so overwhelming that i had no time
>>720214452>super jumpdo you get that shit in act3?
>>720212927all hazards should only deal 1 damage. you cant heal off hitting hazards like you can with enemiesI didn't fight moorwing on act 1 so I can't say anything, but even on act 2 it felt like bullcrapSister splitter was fun to me but I can imagine it being tough to deal with for some players. I'd say the summons are the big problem, just like in many fightsHonestly the only fight I thought was bullshit was the last judge but I know it can de made easier with a tool
>>720214596Yes.
>>720214313>>OMG WHY ARE THEY HURTING ME THIS IS BULLSHIT THEY ARE STUNNEDThis but unironically.
>>720214569Well if you got to the ant queen's heart it's the same path, but you go straight instead of heading up.
>>720214569its not from far fields its from a different biome that will reconnect to far fields, just try to revisit places that seemed pointless early on
>>720214668who is playing? you? who is moving hornet into the stunned enemy? you? why?
>>720214680>>720214704yeah yeah I think I got it. I actually went there again with the double jump once.
>>720214432But wanderer does have a good pogo and you don't need pogo when the bosses are dying in 20 seconds with architect. And I disagree, on almost all boss you can do at least 2 or 3 attacks before having to avoid something, even more if you get a stun, I think on average you will do double or triple the damage of reaper. Only bad thing about wanderer is having only one tool slot, otherwise it would be busted.
Hornet used goods
>>720214761nice good luck, i liked the sprintmaster quest but restarting the race was kind of a gay 6+ second animation
>>720214787hot
GUISE WHAT DID THE PATCH CHANGE?
ITP Act 3 "Random Bosses"I was running around randomly and suddenly I got into a boss fight with the first boss againI also read about how you can find the Lifeblood scientists assistant, so I went to have a look and it was another boss fightAnyone else found random boss fightsRandom Gauntlets fine too, like the one Greymoor
>>720212798Double jump makes it not cancer
>more people got the meme ending than the true endwhat the fuck
>>720214821Mostly fixing bugs. Moorwing and Sister Splinter are nerfed to help casuals
>The Witch pogo makes you disappear which dodges attacksUhhhh bros?...
Based on what we see based on act 3, is our little knight evil?
>trobbioSo Grimm but gay and lame basically
NOOOOOOOOOOO
>>720214760but that wasn't the complaint. read the reply chain nigga.
>>720214963also too easy
>>720214885Willing to bet it's because people didn't know how to get cured.
>>720214885fewer prerequisitesi'm gonna have to rollback or start over for the curse cause i cured myself without knowing there was an ending
boggleworm... I miss you...
>>720214239>they offered the game for 20$ because they make most of their money with ingame Rosary purchases
>>720214239just use your necklaces, senpai. You DID grind, right?
>>720214585even in hk i didn't really like when you could stun a boss and it would still do 2 masks of damage, but it didn't feel too bad since at least they felt like true forces of nature (i only remember pure vessel).and yeah i never expected this game to have such egregious runbacks. in particular although it's not the runback itself but maybe it could count as that, the bilewater boss feels especially bullshit with having to redo the entire enemy gauntlet and the nearest bench being rather hidden, though the walk itself isn't that bad, but it still felt like a complete waste of time and just meaningless padding instead of me being tested, especially considering those enemies are very obnoxious (also the battle becomes trivial with the water cheese but you shouldn't need to do that stuff and they're probably gonna nerf that). the reward was good so i didn't care too much.
>>720214885People are getting spoiled. A normal player won't try that, you get the witch crest so early in Act 2, there is no way that you are close to beating last boss when you get it and there is no way that you would try to finish the game instead of talking to npc and getting cured.
>>720215024The act 3 trobbio was annoying as fuck because I could barely see him with all the vfx in the screen lol
I can only assume people complaining about Mt Fay are not fully appreciating the versatility of the bookshop, if you make liberal use of that it's pretty straightforward
just reached citadal I got a lotta rosaries and I need to spend that shit NOW
Oh, so that's where those dice ended up.
>>720215175Yeah, that fight was super messy, I didn't like it.
Phantom was such a cool fight... I wish I could fight her again
>>720215154yes i agree that run back made me understand why the americans were afraid of the vietcong hiding in the trees and water
Im gonna do steel soul while abusing quit load :)
>>720215272you can rollback your save from the main menu
>>720215173I have not got the witch crest and I have beaten the normal final boss already, when I do get cursed I just need to stroll on up and beat her again
>>720214631>no passive regen charms>failing takes 2 masks most of the time>way more finicky/unintuitive controlsHow come nobody complains about the platforming? It's waaaaaaaaaaay harder than HK other than maybe Path of Pain
>>720215257i got them for free for checking in on him, he was dead and they were just on the floor. btw those are pretty decent, they give you like a 5-8% (not sure) chance to avoid taking damage when you get hit
Question:did the way Phantom spoke sound Japanese to anyone? Like the cadence of what was being said? I know it's gibberish and I know it's a combo of a ton of accents but my 4chin heritage makes me keenly acute to this sort of thing.
Game done. Overall, its a bit of a mess.HK1 was a pretty perfect game and Silksong tried to be too much like Dark Souls.A majority of the bosses were bad or overstayed their welcome.Exploring gets way better as you get more skills and for some reason are dealing with enemies that do less damage than act 1/zone 1 enemies.Badge system was awfulTook system was awfulStances are a good idea but should have deflated to HK1 bunnyhop.Quest system was alright, a bit tacked onWorld design/Character Design/Art Style is still amazing.I feel like the game suffered greatly from just a lack of playtesting.
>>720214885i've been playing -almost- nonstop (as much as i can while having a job), 36 hours in, only yesterday reached act 3 and did some stuff. it's probably simply too soon for most people to have had the time to get to the true end whereas you can get the meme ending way quicker.
Is Hornet referred to as a 'demigod' or other such similar nomenclature in-game? What's the HK world equivalent of that?
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>>720215364it's also more fun cause you have more tools i guessalso path of pain was made a lot easier if you did the infinitely regenerating health build
Going to judge from the other side seems more like a bug than something intended.>go through the gate>gate is still locked on the other side and Hornet has to play a song to open itGood boss though.
okdont tell me exactly where it is but tell meis double jump in the citadel?
>>720215486no
>>720215382she basically says "kiero" throughout the fight. also yes, I agree
>>720215486nopeits somewhere you probably dont think you can go to yet but you actually can
Didn't see this thread or I wouldn't have made my own but man, what a cool level + reward. Game really is kino.
OH SHIT OH FUCK OH SHITNO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT THIS KARAK BOSS
>>720215452SHUT THE FUCK UP IM TALKING TO THE NICE PILGRIM LADY
>>720215257I'm curious what else this fucker can haveI'm guessing any inventory of a shop NPC that [REDACTED] ends up here.I found The Tacks on the floor in act 3 because I missed the wish for them, I wonder if I waited long enough that they would show up here
>>720215451halp
how hard is the ice area bros...? I'm scared
>>720215451Some bugs that know refer to her as Old One
>>720215451The snail calls her an Old One I think
>>720215589its OK. it felt kind of long but just push through you got this
>>720214239>he broke his last necklaces to buy a shitty item he isn't using
>>720215385I dont think we played the same game but you do you.>badge and took system was awfulyou literally get more slots than charms since now u can have both mobility and offensive charms at the same timewanderer is as overpowered if not more with just longclaw as HK was with pride+longnail+swift>a majority of bosses were badFrom the beginning bosses are better than almost all of basic HK roster, reminder that grimm was a DLC. The only complaint i have is that they indeed have too much hp for how early they areWhat are you smoking
>>720215536wait what he's perma sleeping for me
>>720215452What's up with the conversation about their "disguise"
>>720212927Most of it is bug fixes, which is obviously good. Depending on how they nerf moorwing, I probably won't mind. Same with economy changes. They're probably fine. Sister splinter nerf is perplexing, though.
>>720212798Dungeon master build for deep dark fantasies.
>>720213037I farmed the PANNO guys near songclave, doing back and forth between the 2 benches with the thief trinket it was about 500 rosaries each runthen again I did it in act 2 and in 3 I think of them is dead permanently
>>720215658Use the downwards flute song, that woke him up for me.
>>720215589the main difficulty is learning what's ahead
>>720213037This is the one I've been using. The one up by Songclave is better if you use Wanderer and spam the big niggers up there.
>>720215535>what a cool level +actually it was slightly asshurting. especially you don't know why are you doing this.but they should ve put boss there. this game has too much platforming and not enough bosses.conductor is not bossarchitector is not bossvault has no bosschapel is grand but there are like 1 or 2 bosses, if we count this jester, trippio, truppio.
>>720215382considering there's more than 1 japanese voice actress in the game, probably.
>>720212798>no mention of fixing the Rosary Cannon on keyboard
>>720212927The rosary changes were needed. Like I played cautiously and even i was finding myself short here and there I could only imagine how infuriating it was for players who died a lot and were struggling
>>720215739use a controller
Oh shit how cool finally I have double jum-IS THAT A FUCKING LASER???
>>720215687how does the poison affect the drink?
>>720215589very
>>720212927I wonder if they will fix or even know the bug where sinner's road boss just jumps away out of the arena forcing you to quit-load.I wonder if i am the only one who encountered this shit.
Question: How do I get to the hookshot? I was told to enter the white area from the under area, but the german map I have doesn't really show me how to get there. Is it possible to get hookshot just from going to the white area from Citadal?
HAW!
So what happened to this guy
>>720215767never
So this bench in Bilewater collapses. Am I shit out of luck? do I have to run this entire fucking zone again?
>>720215848best themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsOkMtELuag
Are the courier quests infinitely repeatable?
I WANT TO STICK MY DICK IN HER SILKUSSY BROS
I think a big reason people are complaining about the high health on early bosses is that they are playing defensively and saving silk for heals. But I also don't think Silksong gives any tools that help build or store more silk like HK did with souls. It felt easier to use spells aggressively in HK. You had soul catcher/eater, spell twister, and dream wielder to help build more soul, and you got a few fairly early early in the game.Unless I missed some omega-useful silk building tool in act 1, Silksong doesn't have any like those. The closest I can think of is the mossberry one and its upgrade. You only get the spool extender and reserve bind well into act 2. It's probably a consequence of the new charm system in this game. You can't balance tools by cost like with charm notches. Even a simple tool that gives double silk on hits would be S-tier in this game.
>>720215913sex
>>720215858DLC
>>720215768How are you all getting laser and not doing the normal thing like bringing it to the forge lady or architect.
I just got trails end quest. Is that the endgame one? I don't want to beat the game and get the worst ending.
>>720215730I disagree, the game has tonnes of bosses, I like changing it up with timed parkour sections like that. The cog parkour section fucking sucks though, feels like the ice area did that theme way better.
>>720215885there is a sneaky bench in bilewater that is usable
>>720215669Did you play the first one, it's kind of a spoiler but also not really because you wouldn't know the significance of it if you haven't and if you did you'd understand it from that dialogue
>>720215848>RB PARRYcool
the cogwork core is fucking beautiful and has the best song in the game.
>>720215895>>720215848Not the same without probably the best voice lines out of all the bosses.
>>720212927>used my two craftmetals on the Architect's shop>found the Pimpilo and that robot bug right aftervros...
Not only is Beast Crest usable, but you don't need any IQ points to use it!https://files.catbox.moe/vit3lu.webm
>>720215946I saw people bitching about the forge ladyArchitect is fucking deadrandomly found the bench after fighting the Pinmistress
>>720215952>, the game has tonnes of bossesyea like 1 boss per 100 square kilometersat least we have mobs gauntlets too, this is kinda okay.
>>720215885there's another bench further up right but you need to swim through some shit water to get there.
>>720215536Seriously what is with this game and extremely retarded time-consuming runbacks?This guy hits like a fucking truck and of course he teleports around like every other act 3 boss.
>>720215653Badges were bland and uninspired.Tools were a boring reward for exploration, if you even got that. Most exploration just leads to 5 beads or a box of scrap. HK1's badge system was way more flexible, tying the allocation of badges to stance was a bit dumb.For the bosses, it feels like only a few really stood out as being quality fights. Act 1/2 are strangely paced and the 3 songs in Act 2 should have been behind bosses rather than>Behind room with niggas in it>An Item>Just in a roomMeanwhile in Act 3 all objectives are behind actual well-designed bosses.
>>720215983>has the best song in the gamefinally someone who appreciates it, although the OST in silksong doesnt hit like HK one does and is pretty lacklusterchoral chambers, bellhart and cogwork core are 10/10too much focus on the le sad violin and le sad piano parts in the entire game
>>720212798I think I'm missing core abilities. I'm right before the judge boss fight and I see things that are accessible with some kind of grapple, and some places only reachable with double jump. Do I get these in Act 2, or did I miss some things in Act 1?
>>720215940>But I also don't think Silksong gives any tools that help build or store more silk like HK did with souls.There is literally a silk extender tool
>>720216036hey man if you made that webm I just want you to know you're a stupid fucking nigger for having the music be that loud.
>>720215838please respond to this post..
>>720215767nah, all my instincts are already on the keyboard controls. Better yet, i made separate hotkeys for using tools so i won't use silk skills by accident again.
>>720216114Act 2. Just pin those areas on your map so you remember to come back to them, same as you should be doing with locked doors.
>>720216114How the fuck did you reach Judge without getting the grapple?
well, Lace 2 has skyrocketed to my favorite boss so far
>>720216107i was feeling pretty underwhelmed with the soundtrack too until we got to act 2 where it's clear that's where all the bangers resided. cogwork core, choral chambers and high halls are hands down the best area songs.
when shakra asks you if you want help in high halls, say yes. trust me
>>720216054>Architect is fucking deadHow? Mine isn't and I have 100% the game.
>>720216114You CANNOT miss required abilities.
>>720216114harpoon is inside citadeldouble jump is outside citadel but needs harpoon
>>720216085>For the bosses, it feels like only a few really stood out as being quality fights. Act 1/2 are strangely paced and the 3 songs in Act 2 should have been behind bosses rather than>Behind room with niggas in it>An Item>Just in a roomIts supposed to be just like dreamers in HK2 are free, you just have to explore through enemies1 is behind an arena, in this case is gauntlet of lots of enemies, in HK it was watcher knights
>>720215838Choral > Whiteward > Undeworks. it's in there
>>720216179anon, the grapple is not the walljump. also you may be confusing last judge with something else.
>>720216145>stupid fucking niggerYeah I'm using Beast Crest.
>>720215940bossberry upgrade?? i came back with 3 more mossberries expeting an upgrade and that bitch only gave me rosaries for them
>>720213312How do you fix it on Mount Fay? I talked to the Mask Maker, but he didn't give me any dialogue about it.
>void tainted niggas drop the same loot as normal>despite being twice as tanky, doing 2x damage and having a bunch of extra attacksWhat the fuck
>>720214801oh my fucking god not only I had to do the long route to get here, this area is HUGE and sidequests keep popping upthis game has so much shit
>>720216114>judge boss fightWhere the fuck is this? I somehow made it to Act 2 without finding this dude.
>>720216193focus went to bosses i think, they all have their themes which are fantastic, if i remember correctly in HK everything had same generic battle sound up until HK, grimm and radiance, in godhome only pure vessel and sisters of battle get a new piece which are ofc 10/10
>>720215838you need to get to the cauldron which is either from whiteward or from the vaults
>>720216243Its still bad design. The normal joe isnt going to be playing Act 3. So the final lead up to the "Final boss" for a majority of people is just doing those 3 objectives and then fighting the alright act 2 final boss.
>>720216282In the bench on top of the mount.
>>720216294The developers hate you and want to make you suffer as much as possible.Remember this whenever you think some part of the game is designed weirdly and it'll all make sense.
>>720216247thanks
>>720215940Well, indirectly flea brew because more hits over the course of a fight results in more silk generated
>>720216036It's great for unga bunga, the only downside is that the pogo is dogshit for platforming. My favorite crest after the Witch one.
>>720216206I talked to her after buying everything off her before ending act 2she said she felt an ending comingthen in act 3 she's slumped over her work station
>>720216294They are balanced around killing them before they transform with fully upgraded nail
>>720216294There's not much new to buy if any at all from what I remember
>>720215793Adds poison to basic attacks, just like the flint.
>>720215838More precisely something like that. But you need the key to the white ward first, and I don't remember where you get it, in the green area (cogworks core) maybe
>>720216282there's a bench near the top, and in that room there's an interactable
>>720216324>focus went to bosses i thinkyeah probably. phantom, the weaver related bosses, and the gay clankers have immaculate boss themes for example.
>>720216381I did buy everything in act 2, but I don't know she is still here in act 3.
>>720216193The Organ, Clockwork Core, Deep Docks, and Choral have been great. Deep Docks doesn't get the love it deserves and I so desperately wish I could find a rip of the Exhaust Organs theme.
Came to get the last fleas but since i didnt want to do the climb again I tried while glued to the right side and surprisingly it worked
>>720216316you went in the backway through the mistif you go left of shellwood the blasted steppes leads to the front door with the judge
>>720215687Wait, what does the poison do to the flea brew and plasmium phial?
>>720212927>Removed float override input (down + jump, after player has Faydown Cloak).what the fuck does this even mean? We can't pogo from floating anymore?
>>720216294That's intended experience :)
>>720216294why would they suddenly get more stuff?The game is pretty clear with drops, richer enemies drop more rosaries and big or chunky shells drop the most shellbits.
>>720213312ah shit i gave the tool to that big bitch in the depths
>>720216468For flea brew you leave a poison trail
>>720215983>Cogworks Core is Clockwork Tower>Whispering Vaults is LibraryCastlevania time, bitches
>missing one mask shard and one spool fragment>map is fully explored
The runback to this guy is three minutes long. Fun!
>>720216463Oh. Interesting. I guess I should go do the steps then, huh? There was a door blocking my way out to the west in Shellwood though. Is the way to the Steps from the Shellwood station or is it elsewhere? Also if I've the option should I go get the harpoon first then do Steps?
>>720216468flea brew - dung defender charm effectplasmium - get poison health mask that eventually detonates into a poison cloud
>>720216273You need 4
Hate this blue nigger like you wouldn't believe
>>720216469If you held down after jumping when you got the cloak you would float instead of double jumping, I think it made pogoing annoying to some but to be honest I never noticed
>>720216469when you get double jump, pressing the jump button midair now triggers the double jump instead of the floating as it did before, so the down + jump input was there so you could trigger the float midair first just like before.
Hey bros you know that bullshit gauntlet with the lava rising you need to outrun in far fields? Do that in Act 1 or 2 not 3 since half of them get voided and make it way harder
>>720215858The game took too long to come out so he rusted over.
>>720216592weavelight + spam the shit out of grapple
>>720212798whats the best place to spend my first key? got one in the sinners road
>>720216571what's the reward?
>>720216571At least it isn't 3 minutes + 4 waves of enemies!!
How do I access the rest of the zone? Both paths are blocked off/inaccessible
>>720216554there seems to be a lot more castlevania inspiration this time around, which is nice since so many metroidvanias usually focus on the metroid part. although (act 3 spoilers) we literally get vertical shinespark so there's that lol
>>720216661No fucking clue, because the fight is taking AGES.
>sands of karakShould I even attempt this place before getting the nail upgrade?
>>720215642>>720215646Thanks
>>72021666110 rosaries
>>720216705that place is much more of a platforming challenge than combat challenge so i'd suggest you get really good at super meat boy or celeste first
>>720216664That's true. Thank you Team Cherry for your benevolence.
>>720216381>>720216424Took a screen shot
>>720216661A memento to put in your home.
>>720216667pretty sure you can just go left from above where u are. Check breakable walls if anything
>>720216563I was missing one spool as well it was under the whiteward elevator shaftOne of the mask shards needs super jump so it might be the one you're missing
>>720213037nigga use the corridor next to first shrine with the thief item, kill first 2 guys only. It's like 1500 in 10 min, even faster if you spam silk moves and drones
Does Pavo actually guide you when you have bug aids?It seems like bad design in act 3 that the shop keep tells you to talk to him yet when you do he doesn't say anything about it
>>720216339glad i and team cherry dont care about casual shits who quit when only 30% of the game is doneits like beating hollow knight with maxed nail and calling it a finished game
>>720216498Because fighting much harder enemies for the exact same reward feels like shit And you also need a billion rosaries to get everythingAND A3 removes all the usable farming spots
>>7202166615 beads and a slab with some shitty lore on it.
is there only one simple key in the game? i like, completed the game, 35+ hours, i bought 1 simple key in first village, used it onto wormswaybut looke like all this time i needed simple key to use is in fire location to unlock lots of stuff, but where can i get another simple key?
>>720216791Does it have a difficult boss with a huge runback? I already have double jump, so I don't think I will get any more ready for platforming.
>>720216583the station, I thinkif you keep running left, you'll hit an end of the kingdom where hornet will have a little dialoguea bit farther back right from that should be a way to jump up to the steppesand the area is made with you not having it in mind, so it's helpful but not mandatory
>>720216843Very bizarre take. Team Cherry released a very unpolished game that should have gotten way more QA time. Early game feels like dogshit and systems were changed for the worse.
>>720212927>moorwing and sister splinter difficulty reductionLMAO casuals.
does entering the citadel trigger act 2, and if so, what should i make sure i have from act 1 if act 2 makes act 1 stuff unavailable?
>>720216890>Does it have a difficult boss with a huge runback?yes but you manually trigger it
>>720216872gauntlet at the top of the sinners road has one. are these two only places that need simple key?
>>720216849If you need to farm then you're doing something wrong.
>>720216890>Does it have a difficult boss with a huge runback?ill say boss is dificult because im a retard for those of fightsbut if u unlock a shortcut the runback is nice, just from the other map
>>720216890it has a boss, i found it not that hard (died twice to it) but the runback can still be annoying if you didn't open the shortcut and go the top way instead of the bottom way back.
Where git? I don't think I can enter the white ways without whatever i need here. >>720216872There's another key being held by the the second big ant dude somewhere in act 1 areas. I found it before reaching act 2. as for the Deepdocks door you can actually go around it by entering from Far Fields at the bottomleft room of the map. there is a hidden passage way.
>>720216872I've found three so far, two in shops and one out in the wildnot sure how many doors there are that need them or how many in total exist
>>720216872there is at least 4 simple keys
currently at act 2, i've not once farmed rosaries yet but i kinda just want to buy out some charms i've neglected to get, any good spots you guys have used?
>>720216571Where is he exactly
>>720216659These are your options#1 is a door to the Wormways that I BELIEVE allows you to get deeper inside without wall jump. This is the one I chose first, and the other entrance to Wormways I found later looked like it required wall jump.#2 is in Deep Docks, and is probably the better option if you just want to accumulate tools and stuff.#3 is in High Halls, and isn't really important.#4 is the Green Prince in Sinner's Road, who's cool, but you ultimately don't get anything out of freeing him until Act 3, so you can just do it last.
>>720214924>No cost too great Gee anon, didnt radiance getting tentacle raped not tip you off?
>>720216947i didnt even find moorwing until i was already in late act 2, is she a mandatory boss that blocks something? i could just go past it
>>720217067thanks anon
>>7202168724 simple keys:>Bone bottom shop>Songclave shop>Sinner's road>Sands of Karak4 simple locks>Wormways for the wanderer crest>Green prince>Deep docks>Rosary cannon
>>720216936>Team Cherry released a very unpolished game that should have gotten way more QA timeteam cherry is 2 devs and a publicist, and they have a composer they contract. lets be generous and assume the publicist and the composer both played the game in its entirety periodically and offered design feedback. in addition to those 4 people, the credits list an entire 2 more as playtesters.6 people playtested this game. 6 people. in a 7-year period. there was no QA. the only testing was feedback from people who were already used to the game a year in just echoing shit for the subsequent 6 yearsits fucking mindboggling for the time and money they had that they did literally zero QA and large scale testing
where is this stupid bitch slug cunt
>>720216843>team cherry dont care about casual shits who quit when only 30% of the game is donethey literally just released a patch fixing some early game stuff and saying they're gonna do more.>>720216936it is polished as hell, it's just obviously not been playtested by people who haven't been familiar with it for 4+ years. bad design choices are not lack of polish, or at least i wouldn't consider them, but what sucks is that those aren't just things you can easily patch out.
>>720215968nta anon but I played first one and it was so long ago I forgot, it was something about the snailfags I think
>>720213672It's the defensive one. Long range wide arcs for safe pokes, better silk regen for more heals, but shit damage compared to everything else.It's the shitter's allrounder crest to the chad's wanderer allrounder crest. Hunter being the chad's needle only crest and Shaman/Architect being your two flavors of cheese.
>>720217113godhome is not canon
>>720216951YesI don't think anything from Act 1 becomes unavailable at Act 2, though if you take the Judge entrance it's worth saying it's a fair trek until the next bellway
>>720217059Act 3. Jump above where you found the memory locket in Karak.
>>720217067as I understand it, its possible to ignore 1 and 2, but 3 and 4 are needed for 100%
Just realized that if they let the journos play it first, we would have swamped with "GAME TOO HARD" reviews before it came out and the hype would be killed. 300 IQ of Team Cherry to know what journos are capable of
eeeermshould I free this?the church only punished good people, right???
>>720215452Snails, or sniggers as i'd like to call them
>>720217146>for the crestOh, right, you might not be able to get into that entrance to Wormways without exiting from there first... that would probably make using your first key on Wormways the best idea.
>>720216340>>720216415Okay, thanks. I was literally just there for the delivery; now I wish I had just stayed.
>>720216975I've found 3 so far, but only 2 keys. There's likely more.
>>720217153Pathway to the diving bell.
>>720215385>Stances>Badges>TookWtf are you talking about mate
100% fags, get to work and bring us the meta tools and crest.https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/28>2. Damage Text Display: Show damage numbers briefly when dealing damage to enemies
Where the fuck do I get some good items? I'm late in Act 2 and still using starting crest, compass, weightbelt, poison, fractured mask, flea brew, and spike trap.I don't see myself changing any of these because everything I've found so far has been garbage.
>>720217194I realise the irony but I don't remember where that was, is it the annoying bit with the breakable spikes
>>720217218Yeah, but it's not like it's hard to get the 2 additional simple keys for those doors. By the time you're worrying about 100%, you'll be able to pick them up in a matter of minutes, whereas the first two doors are pretty helpful for progression early on.
>>720217258ty just found it
>>720217057if you're still weak, the 2 dudes right next to the grand bellway station are easy to kill with a silk spear and you can constantly respawn them with the bench.if you're a bit more jacked, the big guards in the halls at the top entrance of cogwork core drop quite a bit of money when killed and there's a bench there to respawn them too.
>>720216817It's quite sad.>>720217231There's a free skill inside, don't be such a scaredy cat.
>>720217219>if the game were sent to reviewers, theyd give a verdict thatd be accurate for the average casual gamers experience and hurt team cherrys sales300iq of team cherry to scam people and maximise their profits!im not finding the game too hard and i hate game journos, but its an objective fact that a lot of casuals are not having fun with the game because its too hard for them, which could have been circumvented with reviews, and only wasnt because of team cherrys greed
>>720217231Question: is this in the Slab?
I found out that there's supposed to be a merchant that sells the boomerang and a broken mask but I just found them instead of buying and I found the mask laying beside a dead body anyone know why he's dead in my game ?
>>720217290the tacks are really good, get them from the 2 bros in sinner's road
>>720217298You'll have to do the slooooooooooow parkour every time you die. Fun!The trick to this guy is to never jump. Just dash away from him when he attacks. Equip the anklets.
Hey anyone knows how to get this?
>>720217261>StancesCreats>BadgesThe Badges>TookToolsIm sorry I made a typo, but it doesnt take a lot of brain power to realize what each of things obviously meant.
>>720217385>whyI don't know what triggers it, but I found myself in the same situation and I assumed his tribesmen killed him for consorting with outsiders.
>>720217341You just know no one's gonna believe journo's saying "it's too hard". Cuphead and other games ruined that piece of integrity from journo's.
So I've finished all quests (minus the oil one) and I'm trying to get to act 3. Apparently you can get a house and you need it to access act 3. I've done all the quests there, even the courier ones, yet there's no house. Is this bugged or am I missing something?
Well, I got the Mossberry stew and gave it to the butler. Later, I went back to the druid to hand over some berries and got a second stew with the same dialogue as when I needed the first. The butler wouldn't take it so I went ahead and finished the quest. I still have the stew and the butler still won't take it.So now I have a key item stuck in my inventory with no apparent use.
>>720217116The first spawn is where the fleas travel in act 1 if you find them before going to the boss, and you skip it.
>>720217381yes>>720217385characters die my man, he's an outcastyou can Find his son to upgrade the boomerang
>>720216597That's actually good to know. It was awkward getting used to double jump, and honestly I prefer having that level of control over floating rather than being forced to double jump so I can float.
>>720217437people say to just use all your memory lockets and go to Eva
>>720217437yeah
>>720217437Unlock crests/use memory lockets and talk to Eva
>>720217437Use memory lockets, it seems like the key to unlocking the stuff from Eva
>>720217186She still gets gangbanged in the true ending
>>720217409Thanks, time to give him a shot
the audio mixing on everything related to verdania is fucked>those gates>that heart
>>720217341 team cherry should not consider a group of people who aren't the target audience The game was always intended for people who already played HK
>>720215669after beating groal the great and getting that jar of soul, you find a dead snail shaman tied to some ropes. then when you show that jar to the dude at songclave he says that guy's his cousin, and since hornet says "drop the disguise nigga" you can put 2 and 2 together (or 1 and 1 at this point) and realize that he's a snail shaman too.
>>720217458you need to make donations to bellheart, it's a missiondon't know about it being linked to act3
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>>720217437You save Bellhart yet? Remember what you did during that? If you haven't yet, pay attention and think about where else you could use that thing.
>>720217458Have you done all the quests everywhereHave you found enough fleasHave you moved the fleas to their 4th location
I noticed that people don’t complain about end game bosses. Is that because only the toughest ones make it this far? Or is that because people are still in Act 2 at best?
>>720217328AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
>>720217152>no large scale testingthank fucking god
>>720217486Except i came to greymoor from far fields, did entire section on the right and straight to bellhart with no caravan. And i still didnt fight it.
>>720217604because the forum arena is harder than any end-game boss
>>720216872I'm halfway through act 2 and I got 3 keys2 of them are bought btw
I have all 3 melodies and the double jump but Im missing a ton of tools and some area access, pls help.How do I access the Slab other than the bell station and throughway to Mount Faggot?Where is that protective mask charm How do I get into wormways and sands
>completely avoided silksong discussion until today to try and stay unspoiled>finish act 2 and figure there's probably an act 3 behind side stuff just like radiance was "optional">start checking threadsman i thought i'd been checking so many tertiary areas but there's still fuckloads more to the gamehow the hell are people so fast
>>720217467Yeah, same happened to me.>>720217629Have fun with the best boss in the game!Equip the anklets.
>>720212927SO IT WAS FUCKING BUGGED GODDAMMIT
>>720217668I concur, I got 3, 2 bought, 1 in roachtown
>>720217409Bro that wasn't hard lol
>>720217604Did you miss all the Seth and ant queen complaints?
>>720217604Because with upgraded nail, masks and all the charms at your disposal there is nothing to complain.
Is there anything to do with that Spirited Away faggot? I tried running on the treadmill, even with the super speed charm, but nothing
>>720217740Anon, it took me a 100+ tries to beat Lace 2.I am not good at video games.
>>720217712yeah it's insane just how much there is to do in this game, and team cherry doesn't seem to give a fuck if you don't see it all.
>>720217792You need to run on it for a long time
>>720217792I didn't try stacking brew + charm and run for a bit but probably not
>>720217792Drink some brew to be even faster.
ENDING SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!ENDING SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!Dont click if you havent beaten Act 3Did you pog irl?ENDING SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!ENDING SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!
>>720217604>Is that because only the toughest ones make it this far?I unironically believe so. Plebs got filtered by Moorwing and Splinter apparently
>>720217792He was dead when I found him :( What does he do/offer
>>720217792Where is he located?
>>720217792if you run for like a full minute you get one (1) rosary bead. it's just storytelling.
>>720216597Isnt that a change for the worse then ?
B-b-bros, I finished Act 1 and I stil didn’t find any secret in the ground.
is this the end? I still have some sidequests I need to do and some courier quests
>>720217868I pogged my pants
how
>>720212927Reminder that anyone who finishes the game from this patch forwards didnt beat the game.
Now that the dust has settled HK>Silksong
LOL
>>720217868No. It wasn't Void Given Focus. I did not grind Godhome just to be apocryphized by some shitty fuck Austrians.
>>720217686Just go left from Choral ChambersHunter's march vendor or his bodyWormways) from the marrow bell station, go left, needs a simple key Sands) above blasted steps
>>720217894absolutely, it should be left as an option. i'm not sure if team cherry genuinely is that dumb to remove it entirely so i'm guessing they just didn't mention it'll become an option in the menu because otherwise they're dumb.
Is Spider Silk really that good?
>>720217868I loved this bit of fanservice, though it makes me question how void and the knight's consciousness works
>>720217604>expectations of end game bosses being hard>Last Judge cheevo sitting at 30% on Steam>Weaver Queen cheevo at 6%>plenty of normies and dad gamers who can't pump 20~30 hours in 5 days, but any numbers about % of players they represent is just taking it out of the ass
>>720217590I think I need to talk to the guy in the songclave but I didn't get around to it yet. At this point I'm just trying to unlock the home.>Have you done all the quests everywhereAs I said, they should all be done, minus the oil one.>Have you found enough fleasAccording to the big flea's buyable options, I'm missing 5 of them>Have you moved the fleas to their 4th locationYes, they're already there.>>720217554There are no missions left on the mission board, nor do I have any missions left to do for Bellhart
>>720217792running fills up the meter in the backgroundwhen it reaches full you get a single rosary bead
>>720217901its the end if u didnt do everything but you can still play on your save
What item is worth bying from the architect? I only have one ore.
>>720217959i was feeling that way until act 2, but after that no, silksong blows it out of the water.
>>720217686Wormway and sands is by using a simple key right where you began, left of bone bottom.The Slab I haven't done yet, but I got in from the citadel, here I belive.
>"Oh. My. God. Act 3 is INSANE. I have never seen this kind of thing in a metroidvania! They broke new ground!">finally unlock it>it's just Radiance Aids spreading everywhere again, but with void webs this time
Are you cucked out of cursed ending eternally if you cured the curse?
>>720218023>everythingso if I do all the sidequests theres a secret boss or something?
Where the fuck is all the craftmetal? I've run into 10 different things that require it and I've only gotten the 2 craftmetals you get very early game
>>720217961toss just never missedalso >pc
>>720217604I died more to moorwing than any other boss in the game other than karmelita desu. Most act 3 bosses I'm finding right now are extremely easy. Don't think there's anything more mechanically intensive than last judge or lace
>>720217868Yes. Especially when the shade lord flashed in for a second.
>>720217894>>720217491nta, but no, there are a few sections in act 3 where you need to constantly pogo while double jumping. at that point it feels terrible to have this "feature" since you have conflicting inputs between your jumps and your pogos.
>>720217868For me it was the flash of Hornet's (?) spider mask with 8 eyes
>>720218063Yes
>find out about the prison scenario>killed most of those enemies without getting captured>already got the apostate key so I can't get captured anymore apparentlyThis is some suffering from success type shit
>>720218083>theres a secret boss or something?Maybe one or two
>>720217881I think he just talks. He talks in a stilted manner about after he does enough work he will be brought up, presumably to the palace. Hornet tells him he's likely forgotten and should rest, but he does not acquiesce.
>>720218063Yes, if you consider the time to quit to menu and start a new game and getting back to that point eternity. In which case you're a mayfly and should be dead by the time I've finished typing this post.
Is there anything in the slab?I've got the mask frag from the pogo room and got all the keys but thats about it
>>720217917go up
>>720218090Off the top of my head there was one in wisp thicket and maybe deep docks?
>>720218083talk to the guy in the songclave its all im gonna say
>>720217792It's a commentary on capitalism.
>>720218014Have you talked to the singing npc by the bench?IIRC he told me that they had gifted me a house.
>>720217962But it was
>>720217882Here>>720217883>>720218015Lmao, thanks guys. Can't believe I didn't notice the counter.
>>720218090>Where the fuck is all the craftmetal?hidden behind breakable wallsit honestly shouldn't be so hard to find it all but I got all spools and mask shards before getting all metals
>>720218174There is extremely well designed and fun boss there
>>720218191Those are the early game craftmetals I'm talking about. I'm like 15 hours into the game now and I haven't seen it since
>>720218174Bonus boss is the first thing that comes to mind, probably other shit
If I beat Act 2 should I just get a Act 3 ready save because I dont feel like doing these sidequests just to fight some more bosses
>this second lace fightI may be fucked bros. My reaction time is shit and I just can't keep up.
>>720216142Yeah, I mentioned that. But you can get it in act 2. HK had more soul building options comparatively earlier.
Where do I get the Underworks map?
>>720218264Blasted Sands before Last Judge has one
>>720218230Thank you.
I've awakenthe Guardian at clocktower and he helped me on a fight but fucked off right after. How to proceed? Act 2 still.
>>720214969He was too great to have good ending...
>>720218217Yes, I have. He keeps repeating this line of dialogue.
>>720218289If you don't want to play the game just stop
>>720218290Hey at least it can't get any worse right
>>720218090https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloom
>>720218060Wait until you see all the new areas and the numerous bosses and the many minigames that have been added to the game.
>>720218308Left side at the beginning.
>>720218290She may not be a real bug, but you can poison her like one. Poisoned traps will really fuck her up, same with knives.
>>720214768you either didn't fight the late game bosses or you are counting dash attack into air attack, which is something reaper can also do.
>>720218353Restart game or enter another area then come back or die.
>>720218379Actual godsend. Thank you
>>720216705Answer to myself, you need to go to sands to get the upgrade.
>>7202172182 is necessary if you don't want to get assfucked while running back to the boss
>>720218353How far are you plot wise? Judging by achievements I got it after Clockwork Dancers so it's gotten quite early though I imagine you've done them
Can you go back to the Abyss whenever you want to complete the bestiary or I need to do everything before leaving?
>>720218353Its possible that you've missed dialogue with someone somewhere that causes other quests to spawn
>>720218456I started the game just to take that last screenshot so...
>>720217458>>720217554>>720218014Can't tell what the trigger is, but you indeed need to make a 500g donation to bellhart. Afterwards that bench guy will give you a key to the house. I did that during chapter 2.After you get the house, the shop will offer decoration items, I'm sure many people missed that
>>720218583Well clearly you're missing something.
>>720218559Yes, well not whenever you want but you do go back and then you're free to come and go from then on
we ballin
where tf is the tool that shows u where fleas are on your map?
>I just learned you can press the right stick to taunt wtf
>>720218645Neat. Also any idea if the rhino guy will spawn somewhere else to kill it? I hit the lever while fighting him and the fag just escaped
>>720216667go down from where you are, there are a fruit, parkour up, be fast, this is 1 of the hardest platforming section in the game
>>720218720does it doing anything?
>>720218698not a tool, its an npc that sells you each location
I haven't played Hollow Knight yet, should I start with that or go straight for Silksong?
>>720218000The Void Tendrils, the other Shades, the Hollow Knight and the Knight all exist independently but it's unified under his willpower.He commands and they comply.When he becomes the Lord of Shades, it's still the same thing, the Knight himself is just significantly stronger with more of his own personal Void to form his body.
>>720218735He was dead in my playthrough cause I didn't let him out before Act 3 He does spawn as a regular enemy in Far Fields though in Void form
>>720218720there's an alt taunt if you have rings equipped
>>720218763I heard some /v/aggot say it brings those annoying flying enemies to you but I never tried. Fuck that it costs silk
almost done with the game and all these fucking runbacks later and now I find the speed charm fml
>>720218353Have you checked on the empty house above?
>>720216590>plasmium - get poison health mask that eventually detonates into a poison cloudWhat happens when you overdose on that version? Do you still get the hivebloody effect?
Damn weeb
>activate bench in sinner's road>it stuckIs Sinner's Road act 2 location? I don't want to believe there is no shortcut to Judge.
>>720218776ok do you remember where he is
>>720218794Hollow Knight is pretty good, no reason not to try it first before getting Silksong
>hisSHERMA IS A DUDE???it's literally has She on the name
just got to grandmother silk it feels like a point of no return. anything I should do before the fight? I have 7 masks and ive completed the chef quest. Is it even possible to get more than 2 pale oil at this point in the game?
>40 rosaries for a bundle of silk>mfwHow much is that in real economy terms? Like, how much of his wage would the average Citadel-living bug need to fork over to keep himself stocked on silk? Before all the collapse.
>>720218869putrid ducts
>>720218863Top left wallBreak it
>>720218863Finally got the chance to say this,Top left wall, have fun~
Why are all the gods such dickheads?Only one that wasn't a big meanie was the Wyrm and he was capable of some intense shit if pushed.
>>720218794Start with HK, this isn't FIFA, they're different games
>>720218794Silksong is a hollow knight dlc, no reason at all to skip it
>>720218550I've already seen the credits. Was trying to get to act 3 and some were saying that you need a home. I'll check now to see if I can enter act 3 without a home but I've been stuck on the fact that I can't get a home. Talked to the guy and I think I need a house for act 3.>>720218595Donations usually appear on the quest board, and as can be seen >>720218014 there are none left.>>720218576Maybe but I was thorough.>>720218623I could be but it could also be bugged.>>720218846Yes, it's not there >>720217458
>>720218863>it stucktop left of the room
>>720217487I went to far fields but there's only one target in that target range room is there something I should do beforehand ?
I’m in act 2 and the game is starting to wear out its welcome, like HK did. Metroidvanias should not be this long
>bilewaterHOLY EBINi like the big bouncy guys that take 7 pogos to kill and evading them is cool too. amazing level design. hornet's fat ass made the ground collapse and im not even mad. this place is so damn good. finally some damn good platforming in this vidya
>>720218763spends silki'm sure someone more dedicated autistic will find more practical usesI always taunt during the boss kill slomo
>>720218720Am I stupid or is there not a way to rebind this on controller without fiddling with steam input or something? It shows as something that can be bound in keyboard controls, but it's not there for the controller settings??
>>720218862blue board bro
I can only get one thing from the architect right now anons, what should I get?
>>720218964The ant man needs to die before his son will move to the target room and put up three more targets. I don't know what the trigger is for that. I went back in act 2 to buy the fractured mask since I didn't have money first time around and he was already dead.
I think I'll try steel soul now...I'm sure I'll hate the game afterwards
>>720218895Silk is super-rare godlike stuff made by Weaver buttholesBtw I bought silk once and the vending maching was empty, then I found another room with 4 vending machines, only one works, but it seems to sell infinite silk. Is there actually a point?
>>720218937Honestly it’s kinda funny that he’s the nicest ruler. He was both a wyrm and a pale being With how hornet speaks about pale beings, its a wonder he didn’t straight up desicrate the other tribes
The true final boss is stupid hard
>Herrah's face is blurry because Hornet can't remember her motherBros...
>>720218882Cute shota.
>>720218937absolute power corrupts absolutely etc etc
Why is everyone a bug?
>>720217686For the Slab I think you need to get caught by the ugly bastard flys. I'm unsure of the exact nature of how these guys work, I swear I was running from the Greymoor bell station towards Belhart, a place I'd been before, and there was one there, so I took the opportunity to get fly'd
>>720218964I've been told that if you spam all your boomerangs on the single target the kid will show up, but have not done so myself
>>720218882Sherman.
>>720214036Based on the webms I've seen of other people playing I realize why all the shitters are miserable.Every video I see is just people dashing in and out of a boss's range like retards.This is a platformer, you have a jump button. You're supposed to jump on the enemies head and spaz around like a spider on cocaine.Does everyone hate the diagonal pogo jump THAT much?
im 11h in and this is my map. planning to do one last round of backtracking (feel like im really missing mask shards and spools) and then head to act 2. am i correct in that im not missing any other major areas for act 1?
>>720219170Not really cant remember as she never met her to begin with
>>720212927This hardly fixes any of the big issues.I still refuse to buy it.
Where is Mister Mushroom in Mount Fay
>>720219148>but it seems to sell infinite silkno it runs out, you can see it depletingthere's a wiggling silk ball inside that does nothing as far as I can tell
>>720219202Game is set in a chinese backyard
YOU HAVE TO DO EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAUNTLET AGAIN WHEN YOU DIE IN THE FUCKING CORAL TOWER???ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
>>720218840It works, but there are some caveats for it. There are three tiers of taunting with each press of the button causing a louder taunt before it resets. Certain enemies move closer after one taunt, while other enemies take two. The Crew's that sit above the Halfway house save point take two taunts, but will immediately swoop in on the second one. The flying mites in the same area will move closer after one taunt. I think the logic is that enemies that are more beastial will react to a simpler taunt, while more intelligent enemies are able to ignore a single taunt but will react to further provocations. Just a theory and I would need to test it more.
There are supposed to be 7 mossberries, right? I've been running in circles in moss grotto and weavenest but can't find the last one
>>720219264Where you got the double jump
>>720219218That wasn't supposed to be a reply it has nothing to do with the post its replying to oops
>>720219317I still got the bird, or do they have to be in order
>>720218954Sounds like you're fucked but I really don't know how the house played into Act 3, you get an item that tracks percentages but that's about it
>>720212927These bosses aren't even difficult.
>>720219251You are missing at least 3
>>720219314That's because the last one is way way WAY far away in Memorium
>>720219287You can unlock a shortcut at the last gauntlet before the boss
I've figured out how to do the High Halls gauntlet. Just kill the most annoying enemies with silkstorm and then kite the rest while using that downtime to heal. Once I realised those ghoul niggas only come when you keep your silk, I think I've gotten better at managing it
How many masks can one get before Cradle?
>>720219358order
>>720218915god bless u
>>720219472You are maxedDont expect too much from this boss and dont get disappointed.
>>720219390i know im missing blasted steps but thats just because im going there last. where else is accessible in act 1?
>>720219424Oh for fuck sake. Thanks anyway
>>720219358I think the last mask is act 3 only so 9.
Is there a good place to farm money in act3?
>>720219472Why do you niggers feel it's ok to post endgame shit without spoilersNobody gives a fuck that you can speedrun a game
>>720219148>Silk is super-rare godlike stuff made by Weaver buttholesYea, I get that. I'm just wondering how much it costs in real terms. Is it priced like a milk carton? An expensive pizza? Or a smartphone?
>>720219251Wormways, Sinner's Road, and Bilewater. There is also Weavenest Alta, Weavenest Cindril, Weavnest Karn, and Weavenest Murglin but those are kinda sub areas and only accessable after getting the Needolin.
this is the most broken tool in the game by far holy shit
>>720219559hmm ok. I have already 3/4 shards so I was wondering if i missed any>>720219584my bad i meant to spoiler it. I didnt speed run it though?
>>720218794Start with HK, Silksong assumes you've the experience of HK and is harder.You can try to force it and start with Silksong, and learn on the job, but I'd start with HK.It holds up fine, and you'll know if you're going to like Silksong based on how you feel about HK.Despite their fans, these games are not for everybody.
>>720219620oh ok; i thought some of those were act 2 areas. i guess i have a lot of exploring to do still. thanks anon
>>720219584Not endgame
>>720219632People who are seething about wasting a craftmetal on it haven't tried to use it while clinging to a wall. The fact you can run up walls and ignore spikes is amazing.
>>720212798So... If you fall on the water in that long platforming stretch in Mount Fey you just inevitably die to the cd? Or is there a way to get out of the water i'm not seeing?
>>720219632really, I've not seen anyone discussing it
With how much secrets and hidden rooms there are in this game, do you think it would be better if Silksong was more like other modern Metroidvanias that have a % completion on each area or highlights that shows if you've already gotten every item you can get in each area?Otherwise you're kind of expected to read a guide to find all of them.
>>720219127Well I met him dead I never spoke to the guy since I didn't know he existed, maybe I'm cucked from the upgrade because of that>>720219207I've used them all in different position far away close it did nothing
>>720219565Oh yeah, 4 then sorry. You're missing Wormways, Weavenest Atla and Sinner's Road. You're also missing Bilewater, the Mist and the Organ, but you can't have the maps for that yet and you can't complete Bilewater.Weavenest is very important
how do i get in here to get to the Cauldron? do I actually need to go through the White Ward? Where do I get the Surgical key from then?
>>720219702I didn't even know that, I just meant for combat>>720219720I don't think people have realized how huge the iframes and longer dash + no recovery frames to dash again really isit's also just a yellow tool which is crazy
>>720219718Yeah, you jump, hook, float and hope you either hook one of the enemies/hoops or make it back to land on timeAt some points, you'll be able to refresh your silk by just doing hit and runs on the flying things
>>720219273Actually I could see 3 balls of silk inside, I payed for once and only 2 were left, payed another and still 2, so I assumed it would stay like that
>>720219251you're missing the area west of bone bottom, take the lift, bring a keyunless you've used it already, in that case keep going, I guess
>>720219745Yes you have to go to the white ward, the only path between the two is a Switch Corridor that only opens first on the right side
>>720219668Nah, however if you get to the top of Sinner's Spire, take a left, and keep going eventually you will run into the mist. You can accidentally your way into Act 2 after fighting Phantom if you do that. There really isn't anything there other than the Cross Stitch which you would get after fighting Phantom anyways, so it is really a matter of which way you want to enter Act 2; fighting Judge Fudge or fighting Phantom.
>>720219559wow it really was easy. first try
>>720219842Have to compete with magnetite dice and silkspeed anklets.
>>720219845I think i don't reach the necessary height to reach them while jumping from the water, but maybe i'm wrong.
>>720219870fuk. guess i need to find the white key.
Oh man, I wanted to redo the dice...
>>720219702>and ignore spikesIt does what now? I played with it running up walls but I didn't know it could do this. You're not pulling my leg, right?
>>720219602Well, seeing a beer is 10, and many items cost about 400-700, I suppose you could say a bundle of silk costs about 30-40 bucks?
>>720219718depends on precisely where, but reaching a source of heat will save youi thought i'd fucked an attempt up once and managed to spam dash/javelin to the next heat source and lived, but if you're in the middle you're just dead
>>720219745Surgical key is inside of the white ward. You can find a key to the elevator to the right of songclave
>>720219870white ward is one way, I got there through the showman bug bossfightI guess my way was the more round about one
>>720219917redpill me on the Anklets. The speed boost is nice but find it annoying to waste silk while running. Is there any other benefit?
>>720219948I read you're supposed to hold the dice and count 6 seconds or something. I don't get it, I just pressed A until I won 5 times and that was it
>>720220006You only use silk when running for a while, not during short burst and you can simply jump + dash to reset the silk timer.
>>720220006The silk usage is negligible I always have it on
>>720220006they're mostly useful for delivery wishes or for backtracking
>>720219842>I didn't even know that, I just meant for combatWhat's good about it for combat? It's literally the same as your dash with an annoying keybindIt's amazing for exploration though
>>720219964Go ahead and try it. I think you will be pleasantly surprised when you realize the options it can open up for you.
>>720219928Some are. Not many.
how do you get the railgun anons? it looks fun to use
>>720219727The game is too expansive but no one to aid or assist the player with information. As an example, I hope you remember the vague hint from an NPC of where you need to go when you get infected. Someone that points you to secrets would also greatly help. Having to look up things online sucks because it takes you out of the game.
>>720220104I struggled for 2 hours to do the food delivery, only to think immediatly after that I could have equipped the anklets.
>>720220218did you clear the mobs before doing the runs?they don't respawn if you don't sit on a bench, at least most of them don't
>>720220129>It's literally the same as your dashoh boy is it not, go try it and see how good it is, just be warned that you won't be able to go back to playing without it because you'll feel so slow
Oh so this is what were doing now.
>>720217113radiance deserved worse
seems like you can miss the cage guy if you progress too much, I went back to where he was and he was gone, had to enter the slab with the key
>>720220331Hit the upper left wall
>>720212927AAAHHHHHHI HAVE TO FINISH THE GAME BEFORE THEY RUIN IT WITH THESE DOGSHIT PATCHESI JUST BEAT LACE 2. HOW MUCH MORE GAME DO I HAVE LEFT
>>720220408>>720220408>>720220408
>>720220194I used to keep notes when playing games, but it's something that became pointless in modern games. Nice to get use out of them, because I literally had a map marker on the surgeon with my notes saying they wanted a "prime specimen"I get what you mean about it taking you out of the game though
>>720220302Yes I cleared them. Pretty sure I took the worst route, I got to the bug with seconds to spare
>>720219632Why would I try to learn a new button combo just so I can use a slightly longer dash? I can just face the other way and press dash and that works just fine.
>Max out tool damage>Robobug solos the boss while I hide and throw knivesI found this game's easy mode
>>720220386bout half
>>720220037Hornet does a different shake animation at a set time. By my counting it was 9 seconds but I didn't use a stop watch and everyone counts a bit different. But you have to hit the start of the animation. By the time you've seen it, it's generally too late. So you want to figure out the timing and do it based on that instead of the visual cue.You'll know you're getting it because she flashes and makes a noise.
>>720220331I love all the troll bench locations. Really sells the shitty harshness of the pilgrimage
>>720219718Some of the enemies are low enough to hookshot onto Also I fell straight away and managed to get one jump from the edge that I think I could have reached, so if you don't immediately fall or have at least 8hp you can probably just finish the journey
>>720220437I did shellwood, through blasted steps, then through the spa area in the citadel.But I had the bracelets, so maybe the route is much closer when you don't have them on.I had about a segment left of the timer.Don't think there is a better route.
>>720220457that's what I thought too but the iframes are too good and not changing direction is really really good too surprisingly
>>720220593I agree this is the best route. You have like 6 monsters to clear and its pretty much long corridors with nothing
>>720219632dose it works mid air?
>>720220593I did the same, but not the spa, I went under it, but it's pretty much the same I guess. I see people saying to take the underworks, whiteward etc.
>>720212927>removed float override input after the player has double jumpi really liked having the option who asked for this?
>>720214225There's a cool thing if you manage to get like 10 blue health
>>720220331That was fucking nerve racking.
>>720220748yes
I was scared the last boss of Act 1 was gonna be something horrible but Phantom was fun
>>720220765maybe there are routes I'm unaware of, but I think the underworks is isolated from the rest of the map, I don't have the mnt. fay upgrade yet
>sinner's road gauntlet>It's just one mobHuh?
>>720215173>you get the witch crest so early in Act 2I'm pretty sure I explored every zone and I still don't have it.
>>720221070I was surprised by him too. I expected a flurry of cockroach dogs
>>720212927Devs aren't perfect and a dev making a decision doesn't mean its a goodly designed game.It shows the devs didn't playtest the game enough and removing damage will just remove punishing and padding, not difficulty on itself.
