kek rip in piss
Really?
>>720223851Hopefully Turtle is next. Fuck WoW enjoying faggots.
>>720223920They're using lawyer speak to avoid saying "SERVER SHUTDOWN" but yes, basically. Blizzjew lawyers got to them.
>>720223851All that drama. For nothing.
Fukken pwned LOL
>>720224193That really sucks. It sounded fun.
Got to 30 on an explorers character during the first weeks and it was fun, then I got something else to play and went on, but it's still sad to hear for those who took this server serious
>>720223851isn't it weird that turtle wow, server where people in charge are actually getting sued, is still hanging in there but epoch is folding over cease and desist?
>>720224383They're UK-based. If they got noticed it was inevitable.
>>720223851They were literally advertising their private server for monetary gain on youtube and shit what did they expect, you don't do that.
>>720224383More like Shenna is desperately holding onto the money.
>>720223851didn't this shit die like three weeks ago when they couldn't even get their launch working?>>720224193>>720224464they were taking donations from the start, betting none of that is getting refunded LMAO
Based Dutch chose to keep it running>>720224383Shenna doesn't give a shit, neither activision/microsoft/blizzard nor the californian state have the power to drag a ruskie out of its hiding hole and it'll be a while before they even get the proper warrants to shut down the servers
>>720224547Ascension had to pull them out of the fire to even get the server to work. It was run through Ascension's launcher lmao.
Ascension bought it outright kek. The cease and desist stuff feels like an excuse by Kayototes to bail.
>>720224383It wouldn't surprise me if the lwayers also starts going after Ascension WoW at this point and for no other reason than their "Vanilla+" stuff. It's pretty obvious now that MS thinks that there is no money left to gain from Retail so they are now whipping the Blizzard devs that are left to make Vanilla+, they are only going after the Pservers now to get rid of the competition for the shrinking amount of players who is still interested in WoW.
>>720224660>>720224779Only mystery is how the fuck is Ascension safe in all of this. They're monetizing the shit out of the server.
>>720224779LMFAO. Isn't Ascension launching their own vanilla+ server soon anyway? Kayotes got away with the money big time.
>>720223851>Spend 7 years working on your private server>Botch the launch so badly that you have to give up and get Ascension to run it for you>Get shut down by blizz three weeks later anywayThis truly is the worst launch in private server hsitory.
>>720224779Good. I don't play epoch but fuck Macro$haft
Turtle won
>>720224865>Only mystery is how the fuck is Ascension safe in all of this.They're russians
>>720224894Still outlasted Concord
>>720224193>>720224779In reality it's just a change in ownership. I wonder how much they sold the server for.
>>720223851>>720224193they perma banned me for having cheat engine on my computer, deserved
Kayotes left the Epoch discord.
Well no fucking wonder the server felt like a ghost town after weekend, I was so puzzled.Almost got my second character to 60 and now all the starting zones and even capitals are empty.
>>720225274Were you the dumbass nigger that got banned that day for having cheat engine running in the background because you forgot to shut it down when "playing some games" earlier?
You know what's funny? I struggled with installing this on linux a few days ago. Fuck this gay earth
how are people still playing vanilla, it’s so stake, like add a new class or something
>>720225263>I wonder how much they sold the server for.low 5 figures
>>720225535About tree fiddy
The funniest thing is that there is one dude in Hillsbrad you completely anal'ed the entire playerbase there on their delusions of a classic+ developed by blizzard being the reason of the Cease and Desist on Epoch. Cinema.
>>720225487This is why I just want Conquest of Azeroth already but they won't fucking release itYes it will probably be a huge mess but that's the appeal, the fun is in the chaos
>>720225293This is really starting to sound like he just wants out. The past two months have made him realise that he does not want to run a pserver.
>>720225535surely this won’t attract blizzard lawyers
>>720225791I suspect they already made this deal weeks ago and this is just the excuse for Kaytotes to finalize cashing out so he can dip.
>>720225535>5 years of work and becoming laughing stock of private server community for low 5 figure payout split between all of themWas it worth it?
>>720225274>>720225468lmao
>>720225754>This is why I just want Conquest of Azeroth alreadySame, the beta I played was really fun even if jank and unbalanced.
>>720225487i feel like i'm the minority, i've never played wow before but i'm fighting warriors and mages with experience on the official vanilla and every private server under the sun. 0 wasted spell casts
>>720225263>>720225535>>720226003Selling it was literally THE worst decision they could've made and it has effectively killed the server. Entire appeal was "these guys worked on it for years and they're part of the community" only to sell it to the biggest guys on the block where it's just two more servers.
>>720226423Going complete radio silence since the merger and then just coming out with this really soured me to the whole thing. Fuck you Kaytotes, you bitch ass nigga.
>>720223851Told you this would happen. Nu-pissard is worse than EA.
>>720225124Concord was actually playable at launch
>>720224798Feels good knowing that the fucking woke faggots will be forced to make classic+ for the classic community which they both hate KEK
I got a 7 day mute for calling Kaytotes a rat while people are spamming kill trannies and jews kek
>>720225487I don't know either because you either have friends to run with or you get screened by other players who check what your dps is like in fucking deadmines or you get lucky and someone is doing free carries through deadmines and you can do that instead classic is full of elitists who already have everything and now hold others to their standard season of discovery is the better option, but it isn't true vanilla, it's vanilla with retail shoved in so you have warlock and rogue tanks... and runes you are expected to have already if you want to raid because yes you will be checked at the door if you want to raid but at least in SoD you can usually grab people to do deadmines and don't have to worry about being screened by others but that's kinda offset by the amount of chinese farmers. You can always tell because they have an english name and a chinese pet name. They've wised up over the years though so they farm in very obscure spots without people and if you get too close they quit the game immediately so you cant report them
>>720223961Turtle was the 1st one to go. Blizzard is actually taking legal action against Turtlewow instead of just sending a C&D.,
>>720227341>wasturtle is around and unfazed by any of it so far
>Didn't poopsock>Just played for fun and read all the new quest text>Made some friends>Got to 50If the server dies tomorrow, I'll be disappointed but I know I didn't waste my time like the people who got to 60 in the first week and have ran Strat 100+ times trying to get "BiS" gear.
>>720224193Kek I quit last week after getting tired of the bugs plus the addition of the cash shop. Glad I did. I might finally, actually, "this time for sure" be finished with classic WoW in any iteration
turtlechads wonturtle simply doesn't give a fuck about blizzard
>people actually happen epoch is going to ascensionAhhh yes the server notorious for being so p2w you're basically a 2nd class citizen if you dont use their cash shop regularly.Truly the pioneers of Classic+!
>>720228456I feel more comfortable playing on a server that makes a profit, because it means the developers have more incentive to keep it alive
>>720228258>didn't play at all since the garbage attempt at a releaseI won
>>720223851>>720224193Just. Play. Retail.Why go through all of these hoops?
>>720224779>>720226423>>720226003>work hard on something>advertise hard for money>take donations from hopeful idiots>suddenly just give up on server hosting because there's more than two players to fleece money from thus crashing the servers>let the greed take over>greed fucks you because sin never pays out, especially not wellNot the best ending by a long shot, but it's the ending they deserved.
>>720228703The hoops you have to go through to get a job are worse than the hoops to play a private server.
I play a cute healer and I get lots of whispersGuess my race/class>>720223851
>>720228258anyone who takes private servers even remotely seriously like that is unhinged
>>720228703>just pay to play a server infested with RMT and bots bro
>>720223851Hope the daily shill campaign was worth it
>>720228703What hoops lol
>>720228703Retail sucks ass.
>>720228957No he said not to play on private servers silly anon.
>>720228703retail is dogshit for 1,000,001 reasons that are fully calcified and unfixableat least a fresh new private instance has the opportunity to not come out of the gate as completely FUBAR
>>720223851get fucked lmao
>>720229058>he
I'm a 35 year old boomer how can you guys keep playing this shit? After nostalrius I was done. And seeing how they tried to sue nostris, it was inevitable they'd go after other big servers eventually.
>>720229346every private server is someone's nostalrius, anon
>>720229346I never played WoW before so these past few weeks have been new and exciting for meAlso I get to be a soft cow man
>>720229346>And seeing how they tried to sue nostrismisinformation. nothing was done to nostalrius beyond a cease and desist letter. they cucked and willingly shut down thinking blizzard would hire them for what would become classic.
>>720229591>literally siked the FBI on them>Nothing happened guys.
>>720229558>Also I get to be a soft cow manas a human male I want to pet your head and scratch your hears so I can hear you moo
all private servers are a scam that deserve to be shutdown and those who play them deserve to have their time wasted
>>720227341America doesn't usually extradite Russia or Kazakhstan, so at worst Americans will have to use a VPN.
>>720228703Go on, log into any official classic serv and watch the chat and the world>Boosts>RMT>BotsIt's all you'll see, that's why.
>>720224193
>>720224865they are blizz operated
>>720229756this image sucks because only dumb dipshits with bad opinions use it
>>720230195It's one of the same ~30 reaction images all newfags use.
why are people not doing the silithus rep? The gear is fantastic
>blizzard shutting down all the vanilla+ servers to force you to play their retail-all so tiresome
>>720230195It double sucks if you are somehow an earnest Norman Rockwell fan like myself.
>>720223851
>>720230779I'm not even criticizing the image itself, to be fair to the dozens of Normal Rockwell fans on this planetbasically just what >>720230324 said, it's used by retards to spew retard shit and I'm simply tired of seeing it used for that explicit purpose
>>720230324Let's see...Freedom of Speech, Wanderer above the Sea of Fog, Gigachad, another Gigachad, fat Gigachad at the computer, two Gigachads, the frog, another frog, a meme downloaded from the sharty, the guy smirking at someone else holding up three fingers... I can't even come up with thirty.
>>720230925No worries, I understood you. I just had to bitch about it lol.
>cash shopsthey just couldnt help themselves, could they?
>>720230195not an argument
>>720230847>i need games to cater to me because goldstein controls my life for 40+ hours a weekthis isn't the own you think it is
>>720230847I just play the game for fun.
>>720231092a hit dog will holler
>>720227026They will fill it with pride flags and man-brides out of spite.
>>720231704i don't even play classic because the class gameplay is shit. yeah spam frostbolt how fucking exciting. keep projecting wagey
>I want Classic+ feature TBC Talent system and Arena without TBC's content.
>>720229591>and willingly shut down thinking blizzard would hire themThey did.
>>720228703Faggot why would anyone pay a subscription to play a dead game
>>720228703i don't want my money to go to a commiefornian troon company. it really is that simple.
They were based in the UK right?Why would you try to host a server here publicly?At least try and obfuscate it somewhat>>720228703>hoops>just downloading a folder and running an EXE is considered "jumping through hoops"??
Decided to try it out. Nice game.
>>720232482yes, but why is Classic going all the way to pandaslop and beyond I feel like we've lost the plot either way
>>720228348See you at official Classic+ release
>>720228348>finished with classic WoW in any iterationFiremaw, Alliance. See you at Deadmines on Friday, 8 PM.
>>720229058turtle is better moderated and runs better than blissard slop. Its actually incredibly fucking embarrassing
>>720233959
>Playing the same iteration of the game after 20 yearsI'll fucking kill you.
>>720234024how many years on hrt are you, blizzsister?
>>720233274>>720233671Please no more.... I'm getting old and want to move on with my life. I can still find a good wife at 34 right?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh classic+ sisters????????????????????
>>720223851Good. This tranny game needs to drop off the cultural zeitgeist ASAP.
playing on any big private server is a fool's errand. if it's large enough to be known by anyone with a passing interest in the game, it'll be known by the people who will kill it in due time. putting money into a server like this quite possibly the dumbest thing you could ever do
>>720234236>cultural zeitgeist
>>720234312>big word scare wowowawa player
>Watch WoW on Twitch>It's mostly Epoch streamers>Classic Era / Anniversary is nothing but Warriors raiding or Mages / Rogues world PVPing>Hardcore streams have trannies>Arenafags on Panda ClassicState of Classic, man. Will TBC Classic save it?
>>720234385>cultural zeitgeist>big word
Go home, white men
>>720234551>single player MMO????????????
>>720234394>TBC saving anythingLol. Lmao
>>720234120retail is for addicts, and anyone who willingly gives money to blizzard should be shot, but saying turtle is "better moderated" is insane
>>720234551if i wanted to play with unspeaking retards i would just play retail
>I want Classic+Why not just play Classic Era?
>>720234731it is. Objectively.I played both. You are retarded. There are literal fucking flying bots on classic slop
>>720234215>I can still find a good wife at 34 right?Yes. Lots of girls play on Classic Era, Firemaw. Ask any Night Elf Female Priest.
>>720235358girls (male)*
I told yaBut you didnt listen
>>720225274Cheatniggers deserve to be banned from all games regardless of whether they're actually cheating in them or not. Kill yourself.
>>720235014Because there's no "+" in it?
Get fucked turdel sharters
>>720224193AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
EPOCH HYP- ACKTWOW HYP -ACK>Last video was 1 month agoLAWSUIT HYPELAWSUIT HYPE
>>720223851I'm working on this hot take: I think IP law might be stupid.Because I've played a lot of modded servers across several games now, that I'm convinced the games themselves aren't bad, but the owning companies are deliberately making the user experience worse because fun isn't the priority anymore.
C-chat do we think turtlewow is safe? I don't want to invest time into something that'll die 2 months later and other servers just don't cut it, warmane is botted to hell and no new content comes out, ascension is too easy and leveling is a breeze.
>>720235636The modded servers are only good because they had the hard work was already done for them (making the base game). If IP law didn't exist the base game never would have existed in the first place.
>>720235689But my fellow turtle sissys said we won?
>>720228703>pay 2 play>RMT, botting, WoW tokensWhy are bootlickers so against private servers?
I can understand huge servers like Turtle and Epoch getting C&D'd but why does Blizzard go after shit like Shinobi story where there's about 20 active players during peak times and the game barely even resembles wow anymore
what the fuck do private server fags even want. Classic WoW but with new content added? You're reaching the point where you're better off playing a new game
>>720235601kek pussy>>720235689Chad.Ascension bros we remain KINGS!
>>720224193>Troonpoch ACKedHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>>720235856If you want to play an MMO, especially a tab target MMO, there's not really a lot to choose from.
>>720235856But it’s fun. I enjoy user made content of old games.You never play DOOM wads or custom maps?
>>720235689No p2w shop items. But definitely pay for extreme convenience shop items
I'll just run my solo Tabletop RPG for it, even if it is in the middle of hard calibrations. Making assets for it is piss easy compared to a video game, even if sharing it with others is harder. Also, having some kind of program to automate the resolution of actions on the side would be ideal, but I don't really know where or how to start.
>>720235856OSRS gaslit them into thinking that Classic+ would bring them to the promised land.
>>720235774private servers have 2 out of 3 of those things
>Was hyped for Project Epoch during its debut weekend>Had lots of fun at the disasterous launch on /v/ and /vg/>Turtle WoW shills badmouthing Epoch non-stop on 4chan of all places>TWOW getting shit kicked in by having better Classic+ content>Now possibly getting C&D'dNever played Epoch at all. I have enjoyed this shit show so much.
>>720236090Nothing of the kind in the shop yet, unlike Turtle's 36 slot bags and mobile AH and mailbox.
>>720235856I haven't seriously played classic since 2019, which was 6 years ago. You don't replay some games every 6 years or so? All the new stuff keeps it fresh enough
>>720235920Why are you so obsessed with transsexuals?
>>720235014>monthly fee>dead overworld because of boosting>rampant botting>90% of specs unplayable
>>720234551How can I get this going? Spoonfeed me bigtime please.
>>720236630But enough about Turtle WoW
>>720236696the sub you pay for Shenna’s onlyfans doesn’t count
FACT
>>720236271If you were hyped for Epoch you didn't pay attention to how obviously it was going to fail
>>720236825cringe
>>720236347MMOs are about progression and continuity, "replaying" one makes no sense, the playerbase and game world has changed without you
>>720236825>Wrath+Cataclysm
>>720236289>yetkey wordascension's shop is fucking BAD. content might be classic+ but every faggot will look like a retail glowing clown with their gay rainbow wings
I can't breathe BAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>720237249
>playing WoW at all
>>720237387and where does this item come from?
>Make private server for a game owned by a litigious company >Gets shut down WOW DUDE. NOTHING I COULD DO.
>>720237498Talk to any trannymogrifier and tell them you want trannies to fuck off, they give you the permanent buff for free
>>720237418I look like this while playing wow
>>720237498It's a toggle in tranymog menu.
>>720236825Wrath is Classic+
>>720237580>>720237580huh, is this a new feature? i don't remember this being in the game last time i played. damn, i might actually start playing again.
>>720237661only TBC could reasonably make that claimWoTLK onwards is all varying degrees of retoilet slop
>>720223851I knew not to get invested in private server shit. I was pretty close but knew it was just a matter of time before some bean counter at blizzard felt there was enough competition that they're legitimately losing money
>>720237670It was advertised long before the server even went up
>>720230847>Vanilla is the biggest time sink out of any MMORPGSpoken like a true zoomer who only started to look at MMO with WoW. The mere fact that not a single post in this pic was made in the same minute just show that he was just replying to himself to try to pass his drivel as truth. Wrath is an even bigger useless time sink than vanilla since the time you spend in it turns irrelevant incredibly fast.
PLAY WALLCRAFTt. Wall
>>720237716I liked the changes to all the classes at the end of Wrath. Being able to cast scorch on a mage while running was fucking cool. If I could just play that patch forever, I would.
Another victory for the aryan race.You want to play WoW? Pay the sub, thief.
>>720238024jews aren't even human, much less aryan. Kill yourself, subhuman bootlicker.
>Didn't go for turtle despite it being over a decade old at this point>Didn't go for epoch despite being a known project since 2020 or so>They ONLY went after them after they started to hint of Classic+ and they demanded Turtle (and probably Epoch too) to give Blizzard all of their custom assets as wellKek such fucking jews.
>>720237842I've always loved this kind of crazy retarded shit, too bad it's usually like 5-10 players playing these kind of servers.
>>720238341>Didn't go for turtle>Didn't go for epochSee you on Classic+™ by Blizzard on December. Be sure to play as Paladin and wear the dress.
>>720235501anyone have that picture of alex with the funny eyes, i really miss it
>>720237842>1.12 clientYou can keep that jeet poorfag jank ass client to yourself sar.
>>720223851kek
>>720238341I mean, they already did this once when they went for Nostalrius just as they were starting to work on Classic.
Can't wait to play my chara....and it's all gone. Thanks private servers very cool!
Thanks to this I will now buy retail
>>720239367This!So much this!
>>720228703>just play a bad game (requires you to give money to Blizzard too)Mmmmmmmnyo
>>720236825I want TBC+, personally
>>720239770WoD/Legion
>>720223851as a slav i always though that WoW can only be played on private servers. Now that Blizzard have shut down the game, how exactly am I supposed to play? I guess I will not . Oh well.
>Hardcore>Anni TBC>MoPLegion RemixHow is this still not enough for some people? Blizzard is cooking and you idiots still play these slavic shitservers instead just to dodge a 15$ fee LMAO.
>>720240038Sure, but like, keep it an rpg and remove the gay stuff, and ill play those
>>720239770TBC with 71 talent points (still max level 70) and Wrath talents mite b kewl, what else would you throw in there? Playable Goblins?
>>720240083slav severs are one of the better ones>paying blizzard for a changed versionlol
>>720240083>Blizzard is cookingI'm not eating the shit blizz is cooking, shiteater.
>>720240185>>720240196>I’m poorall you had to say
>>720237661The problem with TBC and Wrath is that they make the 1-60 content irrelevant. I think a server which rescales TBC and Wrath content so that it's also 1-60 and keeps level cap at 60 could be cool. Either that or 75 cap and rescale the vanilla content so that it goes from 1-75. Either way, don't make the vanilla content irrelevant old power crept content, that's lame.
>>720240269Not a huge fan of gays and other flavors of faggot shit like you, shiteater-san.
>>720240269>proud of paying people who openly hate you and make the game worse out of spiteweird flex but ok
>>720237842>Can play as ogres!Horray!>Starts at level 60Lol no. Let me start at the lowest level.
>>720240269Not me bitch. I paid for a Shadowmourne :^)
>>720240269>trying to flex with paypigging for an MMO in 2025When WoW came out I paid it out of my own pocket money as a 10 year old, how fucking poor are you?
>You're welcome, goy.
>>720240373Yeah nevermind how Midnight is looking to be the most kino expansion yet I guess
>>720240659
>>720223851project nortubel > project epoch
>>720240656Don't be fooled by Ion's last name, his mother is Jewish.
How come people just not play Valheim? It has all the Classic Andies want.>Never ending grind with constant annoyance from the npc mobs making it more tedious>Game is all about preperation and not actual skills>No monthly fee
retail has better gameplay (mythic dungeons)
>>720240915Nostalgia is a hell of a drug
>>720240915I did play this, it was pretty fun for a bit. I think it's been almost a year now. It was pretty buggy and it seemed like the server owners wanted to increase the grind not lessen it, so I decided I had enough. Also dailies were a mistake, I fucking hate dailies.
>>720232482thisI literally just want TBC classes/spells/talents but in vanilla content and with 25man raid sizestart from there and work on adding new quests/dungeons/zones/raids/etcSoD went way too far and pretty much turned the game into retail in vanilla content
>>720234067>NO STOP PLAYING OLD GAME YOU MUST CONSOOOOOM NEW GAME AND ONLY NEW GAMEno thanks rabbi
>>720240915not really into viking stuff, people who gravitate towards viking related stuff tend to be the insufferable retribution paladin types
>>720241352>I literally just want TBCThen play TBC then.
>>720235014>6 years of GDKP leading to fucked economy>open world is dead because what few people are still playing, are just boosting to 60>PvP is unplayable since it's all full-naxx-bis players 2shotting each other>it's still normal classic where class balance in raids is fuckedthat's why not
>>720241446>but in vanilla contentreading comprehension
>>720241352you think you want this
>>720240659>BFA is great, blizz listened and fixed everything, it's the best the game has ever been!>Shadowlands is great, blizz listened and fixed everything, it's the best the game has ever been!>Dragonflight is great, blizz listened and fixed everything, it's the best the game has ever been!>TWW is great, blizz listened and fixed everything, it's the best the game has ever been!
>>720241617I don't think I want itI know I want it
>>720241707very cool Bellular
literally just take the vanilla trees that suck and stick a mana regen mechanic in them, ta da the 90% of unplayable builds are now competitive because vanilla is pretty simple and loosely designed and the unplayable builds were all unplayable because they'd go oom and just sit around for the rest of the raid boss.
>>720224865Dutch personally impregnates or kills any lawyer from Blizzard who approaches them.
>>720241971debuff cap cucks a lot of specs too
BBC+ won
>>720224865My guess is Ascension shit is way too different from regular WoW for Blizzard to complain, as in, they don't see them as direct competition but more like an alternative, so to speak.But yeah, the real answer might be the Russian thing.Besides if Ascension closes down who else is Blizzard going to steal ideas from.
So what do you think Blizzard's official Classic+ is gonna be? How are they going to somehow be worse than a couple of people working for free?
>>720242519Orc Warrior get ipad
Hello I need your help /v/. I am looking for an image that was posted right around when TBC classic was first announced it was an mspaint comic and the last panel was a kid going "OOOH BRING ON THE PANDAS!!" while everyone else left the server. It was making fun of retreading through all of the expansions but I didn't save it and I want it. SOMEONE PLEASE ASSIST ME
>>720242519>WoTLK Talents>Heroic dungeons at 60>Heroic raids by copypaste Season of Mastery tactics>Turn 40 man raids into 25 and 20 man raids into 10>Human Hunter>Dwarf Mage>Gnome Priest>Orc Mage>Troll Warlock>Troll Druid
>>720242519>retoilet class design>retoilet races>a handful of new instances that somehow manage to be shittier and buggier than what a small team of vatniks working out of a basement could come up with otherwise everything else is stock vanilla>RMT and botting out the ass>playerbase dwindles after a month
>>720224383Not if you think about it for more than 5 seconds
>>720235627I hate this shill nigger so much it's unreal, embodiment of balding 40 year old FRESH retards who willingly install rootkit clients and cryptominers just to spite blizzard
>>720234648>>720234865>Cryptominer Tranilla+ No.9999 pserver is better doeee!!!!!! Also I'm a tranny
>>720223851Get fucked, lmao
>>720242519basically this>>720242865WotLK talents, TBC and WotLK content available at lvl 60, but so lazily done that there are 2 Naxxramas in the game at the same time
>>720242815prophetic ain’t it
>>720238341>custom assetsDo turtle troons really?
>>720241971i tried one of those welfare specs in sod and it felt completely hollow. as a true gamer it's way more fun to optimize something that you know is suboptimal. now i'm angry about all the retarded for honor reworks like valk and hl and shinobi thanks a lot
>>720243194Yep that's the one. Truly prophetic.
>>720243194Minus the bring on the pandas shit, no one's playing that.
>>720242519>WoTLK talents and racials>Dwarf Shaman and Undead Paladin>Heroic Dungeons and Raids>UBRS as 10 man raid>Copypaste Karazhan from TBC>Copypaste Caverns of Time Dungeons and Mount Hyjal
Why can't normalfags get over WoW already? It was bad then and is still bad
based
>>720234648Vanilla WoW is honestly a better RPG than 90% of the slop that has been released in the last 10 years, even when you play it completely solo.
>>720243504>It was bad thenThat's a fucking delusional take. There was nothing on scale as what WoW did for video games, sure, you can cry about the gameplay, but the game was seamless and absolutely massive and could run on a fucking toaster.
>>720243690It was the Fortnite back in the days
>>720243504>one of the greatest and impactful games of all time>duuuhhh I dont understand??? just get over it???
>>720243740What's wrong with Fortnite? Articulate yourself in a meaningful way that doesn't boil down to "zoomers."
>>720243547eh its just Diablo 2 but less isometric
>>720223851Ifuckingtoldyouall
>>720243807Because of how casual and kid friendly it was.It basically removed the RPG from the MMORPG genre.
>>720243967>t. didnt reach level 60
>>720243967>It basically removed the RPG from the MMORPG genreNigger, what? Explain.
>>720244079It removed all the typical role playing stuff because it was so arcadey and streamlined.God I'm really getting too old for this place, /v/ is now actually filled with WoWbabies that worship it because it was their real first MMORPG.
>>720235920I made a guild there and it wasnt hard to find based boys everywhere. Trannies are playing the retail, dumbass
>>720241971The problem is that even with mana buffs these specs would still be barred from entry because the only people who still play this shitty ass game are all poopsocking autists that can't have fun unless they optimize everything and watch numbers grow.
>>720244209larping 18 year oldyou never played EQ or UO
>>720227239>Runes you are expected to have alreadyprobably because blizzard said "fuck it" and put a rune vendor at each characters spawn that sold the runes for 1 copper each?
>>720244209>It removed all the typical role playing stuff because it was so arcadey and streamlinedFrom what standards? You mean faggot ass everquest? That game was genuine shit. You're a fuckin retard
>>720244209I played Lineage 2 before WoW, and the move was incredible. Yeah, people called WoW a carebear MMO, but it didn't take your entire fucking life to play and was actually fun, what a wild thought.
>>720228703For the 1 WEEK I played epoch I was witnessing bans left and right for Multiboxing, Gold selling, Botting, hacking, etc. Blizzard keeps all these faggots because they're viewed as paying accounts.
>>720243884Point proven then?
>>720244491Blizzard also has no human GMs to actually physically log into the game, see the botting going on, and pass out bans.The report system is completely automated and doesn’t do shit. In fact bots can mass report you and get you banned instead.
>>720228703Release it on steam where i can buy it for one singular cs2 item and i might.
>Blizzard releases Season of Mastery>Make raid bosses with 2 button mechanics than 1>Classic Andies quit in mass>Release Season of Discovery just to gain information what people want from Classic+ by experimenting>Turns out they want WoTLK+ with fast levelling and do endgame content like any iteration since WoTLK.>Classic Andies quit because it's not the authentic Classic experienceWoTLK talents confirmed. And people will still WIPE on Dire Maul and even on Stratholme on NORMAL difficulty.
>>720241390He just said stop playing the same game (that's fucking dogshit by the way, nigger with shit taste) not to "CONSUUM" anything else. >rabbiironic coming from a niggerfaggot that tries to twist other's words you kike faggot. Also go play better games that aren't for faggot ERPers who suck cock at video games.
>>720244802Crazy how none of this is accurate.
>>720242921You just posted what all these private servers have been doing, good job. Minus the bots because no one cares about dead games.
>>720223851Another W for BlizzgawdsRetailChads own this game, don't you ever forget that lil classic niggers
>>720228703Retail is too hard for these retarded subhumans
>>720244209After having played on the P99 server(s), your full of shit. Sure, there were some neat ideas in EQ like how your race and class can drastically change not just how you interact with the world but how the world interacts with you, but outside of stuff like that it's literally just WoW but with a fuckton of more timewasting bullshit. The one thing that EQ might still have over Vanilla WoW was that some gear that you could find/get at a very early level not only had niche uses but were considered BiS until you reached endgame or even late endgame.FF11 did a better job at being an immersive RPG than both EQ and WoW up until SE ruined it with the expansions.
>>720245036Literally nothing will happen. Same with troontle.
>>720240841"hazzi" is a prefix that gets added to your family name when you're a Greek that makes the pilgrimage to Israel.
>>720245149We WonBlizzGawds On Top
>>720224342I tried to play in the first two days but I kept getting disconnects and queues so I lost interest.
>>720245192Like Haji, or as the Turks spell it, Haci?
>>720245101mfw one button rotation made shitters "good" despite the treasure trove of easily accessible information out there to help them play their class>they still have to do mechs anyways
>>720245368Blizzard could give every player a bot that plays your rotation perfectly and the majority of players will still not be able to get cutting edge in 6 months
>>720244209watching retards get btfo with responses is fucking hilarious
>>720245101Retailfags always boast about how hard their garbage is when over 90% of players don't even do any of the hard content
>>720245629Because 90% of the players CANT do the hard content. I doubt very many people in this thread solo'd the underpin on hard mode
>Play Classic>People still don't know how to play with their classes like Rogue using Mind Numbing poison or Kick. Warlock never using CoT or Felhound on dungeons>People playing Ret Paladins and Shadow Priests unironically>For some reason Night Elf Players are the smartest despite having D-tier racials
>>720245727No one here even knows what the fuck an underpin is, retard
>>720245794Then don't talk about shit you know nothing about, you retarded fucking cunt. Kill yourself.
>>720245727>I doubt very many people in this thread solo'd the underpin on hard modeWhy would anyone in here bother to do that when they all know that retail is a dogshit game that is strictly designed to extract monies from mega-addicts instead of being a good game? Just because something is hard to do that doesn't make it fun to do.
>>720223851Can I get a QRD? Should I be thinking “based” or should I be thinking “aw man” or what?
>>720245869Calm down and go do your dailies
>>720245771i think some youtubers got really popular larping as noobs in some mmos and now it's a whole thing
>>720245928Based
>>720245928How about you make your own opinion you frog posting faggot
>>720245727>>720245794>complains about game>"i dont even play the game"classic /v/
>>720245771Nelfs have more agility to compensate the lack of specializations
>>720245928Based. Private Servers are enclaves for trannies because of the niche community. Any white American or European waits for the official Classic+. It's going to be level 60 content with WoTLK talents and it will be a massive success.
>>720246015I trust you. Are these project epoch dudes troons so we’re glad they’re failing?>>720246016>Pepe makes him madI don’t trust you
>>720246032I don't play it anymore, but I used to play it. Is that hard for you to understand?
>>720246032How about people that used to play the game but quit because they finally grew enough of a brain to figure out that the game was shit and a complete waste of time and money?
>>720246169>they finally grew enough of a brain to figure out that the game was shit and a complete waste of time and money?But enough about OSRS
>>720246090This has to be the weakest bait everBut then Retoilet or Classic Paypiggies Trannies cant bait or play their garbage game right.
>>720246206Out of nowhere
>>720246206Both Run-Escape and Worlo are bad games though, what's your point?
I need to share my experience as a classic fag.I played: nostalgic, official classic launch, hc, sod, and now epoch, and while some classic players are chill dudes, the majority are no life spergy autistic adults who get mad if their run in Zulu Farak is taking 2 more minutes than expected because God forbid the tank pulled sub optimally, but here's the thing the playerbase is so fucking bad they will still wipe on shit like deadmines, gnomes, and bfd. Its the most confusing contradictory shit ever, they have all this energy to type and sperg out, claim gear before the dungeon, but they backpeddle, pull adds, and don't even know their rotation.I've played every competitive genre online that there is, along with different mmos but classic players mechanically are the worse I've ever seen in any gaming medium... ever.
>>720225274Really? Even retail WoW didn't do that back in the day, they would just tell you>shit nigger you have CE running better shut that shit down before you log inand that was it
Has ascension gotten hit by these or just epoch?
>>720224865Location.
>>720246405Epoch was flooded by the people you mentioned
>>720246032>cook adds literal feces to your steak>stop eating it>years later some faggot tries to convince you to try eating the steak again>tell him its shit>WOW BRO HOW COULD YOU KNOW IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE ACTUALLY EATING IT RIGHT NOW
>>720225274What can Cheat Engine even do in WoW?
>>720246506>Food analogy with shit
>>720246581You should be very familiar with such a scenario, saar!
>>720246640I wish you all the best as you attempt to emigrate to the US Anon. You may not make it in today's environment, but I'm rooting for you.
>>720246405It's because these people are all failed humans, they cling to the game like my diarrhea shits clings to my toilet bowl because they literally have nothing else in their lives that gives them any meaning, so they try to do the one thing that they think might give them even a smidgen of respect from others which is by comparing how little time they waste in a game that is all about wasting your time.
>>720246405>Zul Farrak>Gahz'rilla>No tank has ever tanked in the doorway to avoid fall damage
>>720246751>these people are all failed humansI thought failed humans play Dota2 or LoL
>>720247043Dota 2 and league players are more toxic and spergy, but the playerbase are objectively 1000x better at gaming in general than classics population
why are these people not just hosting in Russia where they're immune to C&D?
>>720247696Chudssia is le evil Biden said so.
>>720223851glad i only got to level 30 before silksong came out and stole my attention for the last week
>>720247696Shit pingNo one wants to play with russians>>720247762Sup HIVan
WoW is dead, just move to OSRS.Either way all mmo's are filled with bots and chinese gold sellers. Its all the same shit, just depends on what has more fun content.
>>720247696Because the majority of people that play wow live in north america right? Or does it just apply to their website. Id assume it applies to the server they can send a cease and desist to whoever is hosting the server with whatever company.Maybe they should host it in mexico
>>720244802>>Turns out they want WoTLK+ with fast levelling Not a single person askwd for this howeverthough
>>720246405>230 words just to tell us you got filtered by a deadmines run
>>720223851HAHA GET FUCKED
>>720243194who the fuck expected TBC+ to happen? anyone who wasn't a blizzard cultist saw they were about to watch the game go to shit in real-time a second time and this only became truer when they started adding e-shop garbage.even their shitty SoD eventually became retail-. when will you faggots learn the company as a whole is the problem and everything they touch turns to liquid shit?
>>720248635Many people are well aware of that which is why private servers are booming in popularity and Microactiblizz is having a meltdown over it.
When classic players shit on retail players, make fun of them for being addicts, doing dailies or whatever, isn't that hypocritical? Every iteration of classic wow has been exactly the same, questgiver tells you to go kill and loot 10 boar assholes you kill 10 mobs loot, and rinse and repeat, and that's the whole game... not to mention 5 levels through your current bracket you will run out of quests and have to spam frostbolt on 1000 mobs until the next zones..This notion of socialization, that classic has that retail lacks is compete bs. Everyone wants to hit 60 pretty fast and just farms in their own discord groups people don't fucking even chat up random strangers lmfao
>>720243194>To this day grifters and twitchdrones still think WOTLK wasn't the expansion that killed WoWGrim
>>720224779what do they mean by this
>>720225274What the fuck, private servers can have anticheat?
>>720248805>Everyone wants to hit 60 pretty fastyou wouldn't understand retailbrain
>>720248635Retail is objectively better than classic by every metric If SoD became more like Retail than shitnilla then thats proof modern blizzard is more capable than 2004 blizzard, which is pretty evident
>>720248919I suppose classicfags spam SM for 10 levels straight because they just really like the lore?
>>720248805People are pretty chatty and chill on pservers. You bump into a lot of people while out questing or doing dungeons and can hit it off if you aren’t a total spergazoid.Maybe the atmosphere is different on official classic.
>>720248919>repeat the same>maze>dress>press 1 for frostbolt>quit at lvl 30>GDKPyeah
>>720248819most problems wotlk had originated in TBC. recycling content with bigger numbers and passing it off as more content, flying are the biggest examples. the activision sellout and the automated group finder were problems yes but the canary was already dying>>720248928paid blizzjeet post
>>720249036Sorry shitnilla is dead fag but I'll dance ok its grave every dayGet some taste for once in your life
There is literally no escaping scumbag WoW players and their minority control over an entire franchise. But in a world of lesser evils I choose TURDLE
>>720248928and what exactly do you like the most about retail? is it the endless capeshit tier storytelling or the constant LGBTQ pandering? sure as fuck isn't anything involving gameplay because you skip all that shit with your addons.
>>720234731he is right, any private server is better moderated than live blizz servers because blizz doesnt hire modsthat is the sad reality
>>720249036You're thinking of wotlk, not tbc. Wotlk had naxx 2 and reused all the old gear sets and got super lazy with tier and pvp gear too. Tbc had none of that bullshit. BUT most of tbc was done a year before its release so they already had a leg up foe that xpack.
>>720242519>So what do you think Blizzard's official Classic+ is gonna be?The absolute best scenario would be to be a bunch of modding tools that allow others to make their own servers on official blizzard servers.>How are they going to somehow be worse than a couple of people working for free?I think the biggest issue is that blizzard don't want to touch the client much. Classic+ will either suffer from too much system design changes or/and not enough content design changes.
>>720245771Shadowmeld is S-tier especially on pvp servers. Having a pause button is unmatched QOL.
>>720234731blizzard's moderation is literally automated. if enough people report you, you get automatically muted and even banned. and then you submit a ticket and the barely functional AI responds to your ticket telling you check wowhead.blizzard is a hallowed out shell of a company that deserves to go bankrupt and turtle is owned by notorious scam artists but this is still an insane statement to make.
>>720249374>>720234731On Turtle I can make a report and I'll get a response from an actual GM in under a minute. And I get this experience entirely for free.
>>720224193>implying they weren't expecting a C&D when they were making itSounds like an easy way out.
>>720249185>sure as fuck isn't anything involving gameplay because you skip all that shit with your addonsgray parser postsorry you cant keep up cryboomretail gameplay mogs your slop, stay mad
>>720250146you are wearing clown makeup
>>720250249except unlike shitnillas actual 1 button gameplay you have to cripple yourself to use itand again unlike shitnilla enemies have actual mechanics you still have to dosorry your boomerslop lost, maybe 2004 blizz should have learned to make decent classes
>>720250146>retail gameplay mogs your slop
>>720250410badass
>>720250410why does an irrelevant quest NPC matter when she doesnt impact my gameplay?
>>720248875>why do mentally ill discord troons behave like mentally ill discord troonshmm
>>720224383They need to make an example to put fear in the weak
>>720250526You are brown.
>>720250750wrong, I'm white and retail is the white mans game
Why are retailfags so desperate to seek approval in a thread that has nothing to do with them?
>>720250813Post hand with time stamp, Ranjeet.
>>720246568you can give yourself 100000 gold for a screenshot i guess
>>720224865Blizzard been copying thinsg Ascension made and putting them into retail. Its like killing a test server that activity trying new shit to see what the fans wantTheir adding the tranmog system from Ascension into Midnight. SoD would of never been a thing without Ascension. I bet their going to take the worldforged items and upgrade enemies from it to.
>>720250969you first Gonzalez
>>720228703i hate arpgs
>>720224798>It's pretty obvious now that MS thinks that there is no money left to gain from Retail are you fucking retarded? retail makes 99.999999% of the money for WoW in fact blizzard doesnt want to make classic+ they want to funnel everyone into retail.
>>720251137I will continue to assume Indian hands are behind this post. And therefore, not worth engaging. I accept your concession and I will be eating beef while I denounce the Talmud today.
>>720234394>release new epic tbc servers>1 year of classic where everyone bots a million gold firstno
What class and spec should I play in retail WoW if I am a jobless incel?
>tfw I’m white and have no problem paying a subfee to play a game I enjoy>tfw will never have to stoop to shoddy sketchy pirate servers hosted by russoids
>>720226231Had to check if they fixed the talent picture
>>720251243>spic cant do itof courseIm calling ICE to get you off this board
>>720230650They are shutting down only the ones with cash shops.
>>720251265>tfw I'm whiteCringe, stopped reading there
>>720251270Still makes no sense for 2H. He's holding that sword underhanded like it's a knife. One-handed...
>>720240083i play on private servers and have kept an unbroken sub to wow since i started in early 2005.i am legally allowed to play on any private server i want because blizzard loses nothing.
>>720251251ret paladin
>>720243547Only if you are an autist that enjoys doing repetitive tasks.
>>720251363>Im calling ICE to get you off this board
>>720251265>enjoying retoilet
>>720251787>twow
>>720251265>being whiteuh oh, gonna upset all the pserfs
>>720251251Tauren Male Druid or Shaman.Go melee DPS. Refuse to heal and tank.
>>720251265same but i quit playing
>>720251265>>720252081i'm white and as a white person it is my moral obligation to boycott israel and its ongoing genocide against the palestinians, which includes boycotting zionist-coded companies like blizzard. so they will not get a cent from me until palestine is free. sorry, kikes!
>>720252252how many empty rooms do they have in your buildingjust wondering
>>720252252>as a white person I need to care what happens to desert freaksnopeI hope they wipe each other out and you along with them
>>720251787>epoop
>>720251251the uninstall wizard
>>720248805it is pretty funny. i think it made sense in 2014 or 2019 at least
>>720251251magedruid if youre tranny
So all this shit means Blizz is actually working on a Classic+ or what?
>>720251565I purchased the discs and thus I am legally entitled to access the content of the discs for the rest of my natural life, through whatever means necessary, including reverse-engineered server code.
>>720254356Probably, although nu-Blizz could fuck up a wet dream, so don't hold onto hope that it'll be good.
>>720254874welp
Legion Remix bros where we at?
>>720230020imagine being this much of a fucking loser and saving that screenshot. you're a loser anon.
>>720228703
>>720245771Guidefags who demand everyone to optimize everything are the worst.
>>720257513>all those boarbots>one based owlchad
fuck wow niggas we playing runescape
>>720225468>running in the backgroundunless it was attached to the exe, this is stupidit's not magic, it cant just do shit on its own
>>720257717thats the screenshot taker
>>720257725I cant ever fathom playing fagscape. Why would you ever subject yourself to a browser mmo for favela niggers
>>720260171>show own name enabledEven MORE based.
>>720257513what these bots are farming
>>720257725even back in middleschool i knew runsescape was gay cringe
>>720257725retail runegay players are the same breed as retail wow players
I didn't really play it but wasn't SoD supposed to be Classic+
>>720248805No!I'm about to hit lvl 60 on TWOW and I'm already losing interest. My played is 6 days. 6 x 24 = 144 hours playedI mean... 144 hours of fun, seeing all the new content, quests, new dungeons and leveling zones. Since it's a fresh servers, it's also peak mmorpg experience.So.. stop projecting your miserable retail experience into everyone. Go play your lobbybased shitty trans pride blizzard server.
>>720262112im telling twow mods you were transphobic. enjoy your ban
>>720262017SoD was basically a failed experiment. At no point did Blizzard market it as "Classic+"
>>720233959i played in ambershire after getting sick of how shitty epoch was. just got banned for say nuck figgers right before the server reset. all for the best though, i hope i dont go back when it lifts.
>>720257725I tried but the client is awful. Trying to click to move around the world with the camera locked on a little 15x15 box around your character is maddening. I tolerated it when I was 12 but that was 20 years ago ffs
>>720243884>diablo 2... god damnit. whens the next season?
>>720235509Even in single player games?
>>720263223If you have cheat engine installed you're a bonafide piece of shit no matter what you're using it on. Real men mod in what they want in their single player games.
>>720263384Only time I ever used it was to make custom spells in elden ring when it first came out. I imagine it's mostly used for singleplayer games too.
>>720229058When you start pretending that pservers have mroe bots than retail you've lost the argument
>>720263384Probably the most retarded thing I've read yet. Wether you go into the gamefiles and mod a value or wether you use CE to change the value, the outcome is the same. You're an estrogen fueled little faggot whining that people do things differently (and arguably more efficiently) than you to achieve the same result.
>>720234731>t. doesn't even play world of warcraft at all and sources all of his opinions directly from /v/ Turtle moderation being shit doesn't mean retail isn't shittier.
>>720264251However you want to justify it, cheatnigger. Glad you fucking faggots catch bans for having it running lmao.
>>720223851>>720224193Why did they C&D this one of all the ones? I don't give a shit last time I played WoW was like 15 years ago, I'm just curious
>>720264394I've never been banned for using CE in any context, but good on you for evading the argument entirely and choosing to whine impotently instead. I'll keep using CE and there is literally nothing you can do about it. Cry about it, little bitch
>>720264570Yeah, you know what they say, once a cheater, always a cheater. Enjoy your pathetic fucking life, cheatnigger.
>>720264647I'm gonna head out now, but please reply to this one more time with impotent whining that won't keep anyone from using CE. You'll never get your way, little faggot
Everlook shutdown too. Is there any server not getting shutdown?
>>720264687You "head out" then, cheatnigger. Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if your skin matched the way you talk.
>>720264497They C&D every server, it's just that most servers ignore them. The Epoch team didn't ignore them, so they quit working on it out of fear.
>>720226231>ai generated slop
Epoch was a disaster at launch, wasn't it?Sounds like the C&D was a convenient excuse to just quit.
>>720251265See you at the gdkp run this evening xirster!
>>720265120>Epoch was a disaster at launch, wasn't it?It's actually seemingly gotten worse. We don't even have carts anymore now. They might have been causing crashes or something, I can't see any other reason they've been disabled, but it sucks because they were pretty convenient.
>>720229757Doesn't matter if the devs of Turtlewow are Russian, the servers are hosted in the UK and they will cave to legal pressure.