>shit weapons>shit story>no raritanium upgrades because reasons>shit enemy variety>shit soundtrack (pirate radio doesn't count)
There's literally no reason to play the post-PS2 R&C games
>>720231587I have nothing but fond memories from tools of destruction
>>720231587only Acit is a snoozefest, the others are fun mindless shooters, even the Demake
>>720231376Yeah, never got the hype, always preferred FToD, ACiT is all over the place and the Clank sections suck and drag the game down. FToD still feels like classic R&C even if it's clearly being pulled in the Disney direction writing and presentation wise
>>720232091it's actually my fav in the series
>>720231376Doctor Nefarious funni
>>720231376soundtrack must not have been shit because I actually remember some off the top of my hathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtDXR9TiWwE&list=RDTtDXR9TiWwEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnUAOCZ1PYo&list=RDlnUAOCZ1PYohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACK-76ZxKT8
>>720232498I'll still appreciate the newer games for their gameplay but the writing and acting took a nosedive.
>>720234135doesn't help that the Qwark voice actor got brain damage from covid or something like that
>>720232917>soulless orchestral shityou can't compare that to Gemlik base, Metropolis, Annihilation Nation and pretty much everything from the og trilogy
for me it's the forced unskippable clank minigame levels. just thinking about doing that shit kills all motivation to replay the game even on NG+
>>720234387Nothing tops the ghost station from Deadlocked
>>720234387I'm not comparing it, that's where you go wrong maybe.
>>720234495you can skip them for a bolts in ACiT as far as I can remember on NG+
>>720234628100% they can be skipped
>>720234495I don't mind the time puzzle minigames but this garbage can go fuck itself, a complete waste of time
>>7202313761 > Tools of Destruction > Deadlocked > Rift Apart > PS4 remake > 2 > Crack In Time > Nexus > Quest for BootyHaven't played any of the other ones. R&C1 is in my Top 10 favorite games of all time.
>>720234970>ps4 remake and rift apart higher than 2 and aCiTmy condolences for your rotting, dead taste
>>720235162some RC fans have GG shilling fatigue by now
>>720235304i don't know what that means but i'm sure that's no excuse
>>7202351622 just feels unfinished. The levels, the weapon selection, and especially the story all feel like they were rushed to completion and failed to stick the landing. The cutscenes with their short length and awkward cuts feel like beta footage.Rift Apart and PS4 at least feel like complete games.
Up Your Arsenal = Tools of Destruction = Rift Apart > Goin Commando = A Crack in Time = RC1 PS4 remake > Into the Nexus = Quest for Booty > RC1the first game is really honestly trash, in terms of gameplay mechanics, absolutely horrendous - I don't care how much you prefer the writing and characters and story, Ratchet and Clank 1 is absolutely godawful to play and to this day I have only ever completed it once
>>720235162we've been over this a million times and we'll go through it again and again until it finally sticks:2 is an unfinished, unpolished game whose quality drops off a cliff in the late game when the game starts throwing infinity bullet sponges at you and this is most obvious in the yeti planet being a pain in the ass but also happens in the other two final planets, meanwhile the endboss is a joke if you have any half-decent weapons. the fucking level leading up to the endboss is considerably harder.3 is also bad because resources were wasted developing multiplayershit
>>720235712ToD is not as good as UYA, and its also definitely not better than CiT.Into the Nexus is too low, its not a full game but it was also priced accordingly.
>>7202358593's only problem is the fucked up level scalingRatchet starts with 4 HP, and every enemy starts out doing 1 damage, so you have 4 hits before dyingEvery time Ratchet levels up he gains HP, so he goes from 4 hp to 5 hpexcept now enemy damage has scaled up a point to 2 damage, so now, despite having leveled up, Ratchet now has LESS real health - he can only take three hits before dyingand this arms race continues until you're max level at 100 HP, at which point all enemies deal 25 damage - meaning you had to level up nearly 100 times just to get back to where you were at the beginning of the game: 4 hits til you die.None of the other RC games were that artdif.
>>720235926I wanted to put Into the Nexus higher than QFB, but I can't honestly say it's on the same level as any of the other entries.CLiT ditched Aphelion and Talwyn for more nefarious redditry so it can fuck off
>>720236138The weird ranger missions, which are basically tutorials for how MP works, also sucked.
>>720236138>only problemyou sure?both Daxx and Holostar Studios ruined
>>720231376>shit weaponsWhat? Not only is every single weapon good but they're also extremely creative in their utility and gameplay, which is really the best you can ask for 6 games deep>shit storyIt's like the only game in the series to even have a halfway decent story other than the first>no raritanium upgradesWhat? Is this really something people missed? I know they put it in every RaC game after ACiT but it always felt like an arbitrary system to me, why not just get the upgrades from, you know, the actual weapon upgrades?>shit enemy varietyI never got this complaint.The only game that ever benefitted from good enemy variety was RaC 1, 2 had a bunch of enemies sure but they were mostly really simple or badly designed.The moment the series started honing in on different enemy types that show up through the whole game their design started getting way better - and it's not like this is some sin of the PS3 games, UYA and Deadlocked are designed like this too.>shit soundtrackYeah other than some standouts it's not the best the series has to offer, you can definitely tell some of it is Resistance 2 leftovers since they brought on the same composer
I'd rather replay deadlocked solo than try anything past ps2, if anything Jak needed the reboot more since it had more of a cogent story and they could have done some cool ass stuff with time
>>720236138>nefarious turns the tyhrranoids into robots>every fucking enemy depletes an entire gun to killi've replayed UYA a dozen times but this never ceases to be a problem
>>720237050don't look up who wrote the Lost Frontier then
>>720231376The hover boots were fun. Up your arsenal and tools are my favorites though
>he didn't beat my blaster runs red hot
>>720237078it sucks because you're basically forced to drop all the early guns because of it. Rip the shotgun, it was fun to use while it lasts
>>720236138Ratchet starts with 10 HP in UYA.
Here sarge, you can have my gun!
>>720237050You're missing out, tools is basically a PS2 r&c game. All the others are bad imo
>>720237378Not only that but each level up gives you +10 HP not +1.I have no idea what anon was on about, probably thinking of the second game.
>>720237283hover boots could've been so much better they could be used while firing your weapons and not just a platforming tool.>>720237314I remember the shock cannon being relevant for the entire game and shredding bosses with the level 5 charge shot
>>720231376every single thing you said is wrong, which means it's bait, which means you just wanna talk about R&C
>>720237479why did ratchet toss all his guns away before heading into a war zone? is he stupid?
>>720237587it's alright but you basically HAVE to use the charge shot later on, which costs alot of ammo for performance similar to other later guns, while also being slower to use.
>>720237587Considering how much momentum and wind up there is to the movement with the hover boots I don't think they would have been much use in the combat, I think it was the right call to focus on making them feel as good as possible for platforming considering Ratchet's default move set is already a compromise for the sake of the gunplay feeling good.Later games like FFA and Nexus would make the hover boots more combat friendly and they just don't feel nearly as good to use.
>>720235712I was about to reply in great detail to your post concerning the mistreatment/abandonment of the staff that developed 1 & 2 just prior to 3's production (which was rushed by the developers' admission), when I noticed that you ranked Quest for Booty above 1 at dead last.
>>720238449In your opinion then, when did ratchet clank begin and end?
>>720238449Quest for Booty is slightly (but not very) fun1 is not fun at all
Insomniac being designated the new capeshit slop producer is so fucking goddamn sad, man. Spiderman 2 is an embarrassment that cost nearly 400,000,000 USD. Imagine the 10 other games sony could've made with that. We could've had an entire trilogy of R&C by now and a new Sly Cooperor something. God life is so fucking gay and lame.
>>720239010Insomniac was in a rough shape financially before they started working on Spider-Man.Insomniac doing capeshir is nothing compared to every Sony studio wasting about two years on GAAS that got cancelled.
>>720237731he wanted to do a wrench only run
Ratchet and Clank's main problem is the weapon progression. For some inane reason Insomniac is stuck on the exact same weapon progression every single game. (pistol, shotgun, bomb, etc.). MIX IT THE FUCK UP YOU HACKS. ADD SOME UNIQUE WEAPONS. DONT TURN THE LAVA GUN INTO A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT THROUGH A FORCED UPGRADE
>>720241205They should bring back gold weapons just once.
>>720241205bro it's been 22 years they've already apologized and gave us the liquid nitrogen gun.
Does Rift Apart have a new game+ where you get a bolt multiplier?
>>720241205The demake never ceases to bother me how they use not only recycled weapons from future, but Grummelnet weapons and not Gadgetron. Makes zero sense
>>720242602The PS4 remake is a retelling from Qwark's pov of the original events while in prison, not an actual retelling per se.This is canon as well.
I wish the PS3 games didn't use pre-rendered cutscenes it was really jarring seeing Ratchet loose his armor in every cutscene basically. CiT was especially bad because they treated the fucking customizable gun/bomb as the "default" weapon that always gets used in cutscenes, which was even dumber.
>>720242786naw it is a retelling, the movie ends with him being arrested so it's him telling the story of the game/movie after it concluded
>>720235712so I have to play tools of destruction? I only played the trilogy + the 4th game in the arena
>>720244545What even is this complaint?First off in ToD there's 0 pre-rendered cutscenes with Ratchet outside the intro level and ending, which is what the PS2 games did too.In ACiT they purposefully make his armor upgrades actual upgrades to the same base armor so that it can be "turned off" in cutscenes.In A4O and FFA there's no armor upgrading at all.ItN is basically the only time this is an "issue" but they even added an animation right before you enter a cutscene of Ratchet taking his armor off so who cares really.As for the weapon in ACiT, he uses the bombs in one single cutscene - GC has more scenes of Ratchet using the Lancer than that.
>>720231376Everything past Deadlocked is shit.
>>720238278 You're absolutely right, the hover boots in A Crack in Time were tuned perfectly for traversal, and using them mid-combat would've just broken the pacing or made everything way too floaty. They had this deliberate rhythm where you'd switch between the hover boots and your arsenal depending on the scenario, and it actually elevated the design. Nexus trying to blend the two just made both feel worse. I'm glad they prioritized one over trying to half-ass both.
Alright, it's that time again. You know this happens every thread.Post your favorite tunes.Gemlik Base, Oltanis Orbithttps://youtu.be/c906eLzscLM
>>720231376The series peaked with the PS2 games and should've retired after Deadlocked.
>>720252086you already posted mine but I really likehttps://youtu.be/E-kxKay1WiY?si=_RcbDO6GEvZx-Tmgandhttps://youtu.be/jOH7M1KdB1o?si=8gsJNKJDqGwIG02Ythe first game's OST is really the best one by far
Let me guess the PS3 don't emulate well or don't emulate at all or something? Is that the thread is filled with people glazing the PS2 games?
>>720231376ACiT is the best one.
>>720231376Bump
