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Duolingo is an education video game so this counts. Does Duolingo actually help me learn Spanish beyond being essentially interactive flash cards? I'm on day 221 and honestly don't feel like I've improved as much as I'd hoped or expected. Is this worth continuing or should I find other means to grow in Spanish?
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I tried flashcards before but it only helped for about six months and I forgot the phraseology all over again.
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You're supposed to actually use the language and, god forbid, talk to people (in espanol)
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I'm just playing it out of habit at this point. I'm gaining absolutely nothing.
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oh look it's botnet anki
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>>720246702
Doesn't really teach u grammer and most of the sentences are random and don't really make sense tho.
Busuu is better imo, at least for german.
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>>720246869
That's basically what I'm doing. More that I'm just trying to maintain my streak without missing a day.

>>720246780
Not wrong. My problem is I don't have as many opportunities to do that unless I got to a Mexican restaurant or something. Eventually it just ends up being that I learn a bit, I can say the phrases anyone who took high school Spanish can say, and then basically never grow past that.
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>>720246702
yes and no
you'll learn keywords and stuff from it and that's a nice start but the real way you're gonna learn a new language is by making it part of your daily life
watching movies, playing games and especially talking to people in that language so that you can actually train it other then just knowing the words
You can start small tho... like with duolingo
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>>720246986
>Doesn't really teach u grammer
I can see that.
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>>720246702
No. If Duolingo is the only tool you use you will never learn a language. You should also immerse yourself in the language/culture, try watching videos in spanish or browsing threads in spanish (on /int) for example to try to learn. If you're on day 221 you rpobably at least know enough vocab to start understanding. Duolingo is garbage and I highly doubt you would ever get to a conversational level through just the app

>>720247136
Mate you have the internet, there are a million opportunities to use the language available to you. Talk to someone on a message board, watch videos en espanol, hire a tutor on italki, anything. I recommend looking up Dreaming Spanish and watching some of their beginner videos for a start
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>>720246702
I think duolingo is useful for getting your foot into the door of learning a language, but that's literally it. If you want to be even remotely conversational I'm pretty sure you need to seek out alternative means.
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>>720247136
Start consuming media in spanish, maybe change your system language in spanish. You gotta leave your comfort zone if you want to make any progress.
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>>720246939
Explain in great detail. If possible in 2 languages.
>>720247136
I un-installed it when I realized I was just keeping the streak but learning nothing
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>>720246702
if you want to learn a language playing vidya in your language of choice can help at least a little. it helps you learn grammar by usage, rather than by rules, and also helps you learn vocab.
thus far I have played FTL with the French translation and 'elldivers 2 with the French dub. it helps that I've played both games in English for a while so I know their scripts pretty well (and it's always interesting to see where the scripts diverge, such as the French 'elldivers saying "tunnel full of insects" instead of "bug tunnel breach").
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>>720246702
>Is this worth continuing or should I find other means to grow in Spanish?
Read books, short stories, comic books, news, watch movies, switch everything you own to Spanish (cellphones, consoles, etc.)
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>>720246702
MochiKanji is better.
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Honestly didn't expect this many genuine replies back. Instead of mass replying I'll just say thanks for the advice everyone. It sounds like watching Spanish movies/shows, playing games in Spanish and basically making things I use frequently default to Spanish might be more beneficial than what I'm doing so far. And >>720247275 is right that I do have opportunities online. I just get stuck in the mindset that I MUST go to the the Spanish stores or travel to a Spanish country to really get it and that I'm still in the early 2000s without these resources being as freely available.
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>>720246702
Consuma media en español y aprenderá fácil.
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>>720248017
Esta es buena idea. OP, lee libros y ve peliculas en español. Aqui tienes una pelicula argentina para empezar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhJcATLY7fw&pp=ygUTYm9vZ2llIGVsIGFjZWlvdG9zbw%3D%3D
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>>720247418
>I un-installed it when I realized I was just keeping the streak but learning nothing
I just did seconds ago.
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solo usa DeepL, nunca me tome el tiempo de aprender ingles asi que uso la extension para postear en 4chan
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just learn from fucking books and watching spanish language content why even try this zoomer brainrot shit? can't you fucking read?
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you could just talk to an anon of your target language here
blows my mind there's no such threads around
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>>720247136
watch TV shows in spanish with subtitles
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>>720246702
Aside from all the suggestions people gave you OP, I would also throw in playing games you're very familiar with, but in the language you want to learn. But the main gist at the end is that you absolutely need to engage with the language you want to learn and not just passively consume it.
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>>720246702
It's a supplementary material. I won't get you to fluency alone.

You want a really good Spanish learning app? Like actually good?
Language Transfer. It's also 100% free.
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>>720248134
>argentina
Te querés cagar al pobre pibe, loco, ¿qué haces? Va a quedar hablando como un pelotudo y se va a terminar colgando hijo de puta
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>>720246702
You'd be better off just starting to read shit. Skim a grammar guide to acquire the basic shape of common verb tenses, then start reading. Something easy and repetitive is good to start, like picrel, FAQs/guides on fucking GameFAQs, etc. Do this for a while, then move into easy novels, easy vidya/VNs (Phoenix Wright), etc.
You will NOT get good or even decent using Duolingo. You need to read.
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>>720249454
There are threads for that on /int/ and also sometimes /soc/ but I'm sure those are just for sexting
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>>720246702
>help me learn Spanish
no, it helps you play useless game mechanics
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>>720246702
A small tip for spanish language, all words are gendered, for example friend is "amigo" for male and "amiga" for female, obviously with their exceptions but most words that end with "a" are female.
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>>720246702
used Duolingo to learn russian for a month then uninstalled. I can't say more than a sentence in russian but I can recognize some words.
What surprised me the most is how they turn a learning app into candy crush. If I'm not mistaken, the app was made in Unity too
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>>720246702
Tried to use it to learn Russian for about a year.
It really just wound up repeating itself for a while, the courses restructured randomly and deposited me twice in further locations along the general progress and did not at all explain the grammar which was super important.
I don't know if that was during the AI spree that fucked up a lot of other courses but it really took me off of using it to learn.
I just wanted to read roadside picnic and metro in their original languages, man.
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I am using Duolingo to learn Polish so I can take a trip to see CD Projekt and Bloober Team studios. It's handy for free but no option to learn mechanics sucks.
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>>720250931
For now.
White colonizers gotta white colonize
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>>720250396
What's a fun game that could be enhanced or more interesting by having Spanish dialogue and/or text?
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>>720246702
it's rote vocabulary memorization
won't help you much unless you are practicing irl and ideally reading too
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>>720246869
Dude that's a child
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>>720249454
I want /vint/ back
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>>720246702
>Does Duolingo actually help me learn Spanish beyond being essentially interactive flash cards? I'm on day 221 and honestly don't feel like I've improved as much as I'd hoped or expected. Is this worth continuing or should I find other means to grow in Spanish?
¿Si te pusistes a ver series en español sin subtitulos, cierto?
>>720247136
>Not wrong. My problem is I don't have as many opportunities to do that unless I got to a Mexican restaurant or something. Eventually it just ends up being that I learn a bit, I can say the phrases anyone who took high school Spanish can say, and then basically never grow past that.
If you live in the United States start speaking with your nearer ICE agent and they will help you.
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>>720255893
I don't think there's one game that is gonna be better in it. Maybe a game that has been developed in that language first? I think a more solid choice would be something that *you* are familiar with, so even if you don't specifically know what they're saying, you know the general context and that can help figuring things out.
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>>720246702
I've been doing Italian for almost 3 years, and besides maybe pronunciation, I don't speak Italian. I could probably read books in Italian, but parsing what they're saying in real time or (god forbid) speaking it myself would just make me look like someone who wasted a bunch of time on a language he never really learned.



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