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This is what a Liberian looks like.
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>>720247701
we were liberians and excrement.
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>>720247701
It made more sense with sniper wolf since she was a kurd
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I dont think the game ever says Raiden works in a library.
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>>720247701
His backstory is certainly that his parents were either American or USSR aid workers. My fan theory:

>Family is Russian
>Raidonovich is indeed a distant relative
>family escapes to America
>enlists as aid workers for war torn africa
>Solidus the war lord kills his family and enlists him
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and this is what a Libertarian looks like.
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>>720248201
>This is what a Kurdish woman looks like.
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>>720248302
not canon btw
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>>720247701
>Original American protagonist replaced with some African guy
If it came out today you retards would shit your pants calling it woke.
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>>720247701
I wonder what Raiden thinks of General Butt Naked
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This is what a Liberlian looks like.
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>>720248639
If it came out today, the tanker would be sold as a separate game.
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This is what a librarian looks like.
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This is what a Lemurian looks like.
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>>720247701
It's okay, he's just light skinned.
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>>720247701
sounds like a have your cake and it eat it too situation. kojima wanted the post colonial settler racial mix but didn't want to actually wade into that white vs black can of worms, compared to just general African strife.
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this is what a Zimbabwean looks like
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>>720248302
Why did they turn him into 90% cyborg. Was he even cybernetically enhanced in MGS2?
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>>720247701
>>720250549
>>720250764
Why didn't he just make him Zimbabwean
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>>720250549
Or Kojima isn't American and thus isnt obsessed with worshipping black people.
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>>720251190
There weren't any Zimbabwean civil wars in the late 80s early 90s. The child soldier thing is more important and there's only so many options for that in the time period. Real question is why they didn't make him Yugoslavian.
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>>720251445
non sequitur
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>>720247701
BASED raiden filtering plebs since 2003
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>>720251456
China didn't bomb pearl harbor either, that didn't stop Kojima from swapping out Japan for China though
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>>720247701
You know, I thought the MGS2 hate spam was weird, but I recognize this talking point from a really shit youtube video where some fat zoomer shits on MGS2.
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>>720252074
I see this posted a lot recently, where is this in the games? Is this in a codec call, what is this, a meme?
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>>720252175
Is it the one where Kojima is accused of being a racist and a pervert?
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>>720251445
he is obsessed with worshipping white people tho
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>>720252370
Yeah, the guy links to that video, so I think he boosted it a fair bit.
That original video about Kojima being a racist is some mental breakdown shit, when the guy started talking about how he walks up to people and asks them what race Chico is, because he just has pictures of Chico on him, it becomes very obvious that he is deeply unweel.
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>>720252350
It's the plot of MGS3, where Kojima decided retcon WW1 and 2 and keep Japan out of it
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>>720253685
Provide video timestamp or shut the fuck up
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>>720247701
he's albino o algo
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>>720247701
Have the negroes complained about this yet?
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>>720247701
That's what a Liberian who's parents are Russian looks like (Raikov and one of those Soviet Officers from PO)
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>>720248828
that's ground zeroes
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>>720248550
says who?
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>>720253880
The average MGS player such as yourself has such a poor grasp of history and probably doesn't even pay much attention to what the characters are saying, but the amount of times china is used in place of Japan every single time the timeline of events is explained, is enough to make a history buff delete the game.
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>>720250965
too many people complaining he wasn't cool enough
most of raiden's issues in MGS2 can be chalked up to bad voice direction in the dub
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>>720248715
I would slap her butt in dem spats
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this is how a librarian looks like
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>>720248250
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>>720252074
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>>720254138
Pearl Harbor is never brought up in any MGS game, let alone MGS3, and Peace Walker itself is heavy on Japan's role within WW2 and its ultimate loss in WW2.
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>>720252779
>That original video about Kojima being a racist is some mental breakdown shit, when the guy started talking about how he walks up to people and asks them what race Chico is, because he just has pictures of Chico on him, it becomes very obvious that he is deeply unweel.
Yeah, I've seen that video. Personally, I really like the design of Raiden, but I can see where he's coming from. Nobody wants to play a medieval fantasy game with black guys in it, so I think it's only fair that if you're going to create a character who is ethnically sub-saharan african that he/she's physical appearance matches that description.
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>>720253880
nta, but China is mentioned over 30 times throughout the game as being the major super power of Asia in both world wars....

In reality, china did absolutely nothing except get invaded by Japan over and over again. Millions were genocided. Speaking about the Japanese invasion of China and korea is illegal in Japan, so Kojima changed the plot of history when he made mgs3 and decided to omit Japan even being involved at all.
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>>720254882
Part of Raiden's character is that he wasn't black and yet living as a child soldier in Africa, because Solidus had killed his parents out there.
The issues are really with Chico and Paz, but Peace Walker is a game for Japanese teens. Paz is a literal idol girl with her own pop music.
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>>720247701
>white people don't live in africa
uhh ok.
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>>720247701
GYATT!
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Played this game 10 years ago, dropped it after 5 minutes. Booted it up again and played a couple of hours until
>get USP
>meander back to engine room
>shoot control box
>run forward, ship still explodes
>reload, look around and see no more control boxes
>realize the control box I saw in the kitchen was not optional
>I now have to spend another 20 minutes traversing the whole ship and back again
>realize there's probably at least one more besides the kitchen one, no idea where
>game cutely locking and breaking doors so god knows how long I'm gonna be running around this retarded patrol maze for
Tell me right now, does the game ever pull some retarded shit like this again or should I just drop it?
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>>720248250
He works out in one.
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>>720255007
>nta, but China is mentioned over 30 times throughout the game as being the major super power of Asia in both world wars....
Because it's a game about the cold war, but also, China is not 'mentioned over 30 times'. The script is fully dumped anon you don't have to be coy.
Here is every mention of China in MGS3.
>Volgin: Very well. I'll explain it before I kill you. During the last Great War, the most powerful men in America, China, and the Soviet Union had a secret pact. The pact was a blueprint for defeating the Axis Powers and creating a new world order.

>Boss: arly in the twentieth century the true holders of power in the United States, the Republic of China, and the newly-formed Soviet Union, gathered together in a secret meeting that would later be known as the Wiseman's Committee.

>October 16, 1964
>China conducts its first successful nuclear test in the Takia Makan desert.
And the remaining mentions are Eva talking about how she's a Chinese spy.

No historical revisionism occurs.
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>>720255171
Kojima says he intent was to make Raiden attractive to girls, but he's built like a chick himself
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>>720254138
>no video timestamp
As expected. Shut the fuck up nigger.
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>>720255273
Anon, Japan isn't mentioned a single time in the game. And game tells you China was the major asian super invading everyone during the world wars. Anyone who plays the game knows that
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This is what an American looks like.
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>>720248262
According to MGS2's game plan, his original name was Brannigan
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>>720255414
>Anon, Japan isn't mentioned a single time in the game.
It actually is, just not in any heavy way because Japan was irrelevant in 1964.
>And game tells you China was the major asian super invading everyone during the world wars. Anyone who plays the game knows that
I combed through the script already and posted all mentions of China within the game.

Additionally, MGS2 actually does talk about Japan's role in WW2 (you know, in the scene explaining Raiden's name), and again, Peace Walker is EXPLICIT about Japan losing in WW2 and having its constitution written by America in the aftermath.
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Japan is mentioned once in the game, btw
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>>720255007
retard post. china was supposed to fold in months, they resisted for 8 years until japan's final defeat, and that was in the middle of their own civil war. japan's total underestimation of china was the reason they couldn't consolidate their gains in asia and were out of resources by the time the US entered the pacific. and here you are 80 years later, with your stockpiles emptied, losing to putin, repeating history because you're too dumb to learn from it.
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>>720255683
This has nothing to do with what you're spamming though and you cut out the rest of the line, which I already posted.
>Volgin: Very well. I'll explain it before I kill you. During the last Great War, the most powerful men in America, China, and the Soviet Union had a secret pact. The pact was a blueprint for defeating the Axis Powers and creating a new world order.
It's talking on the Philosopher's Legacy. China is involved in it because the game's narrative is surrounding the Cold War, which China was involved in. That's it.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>720255717
A zigger!
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>>720255829
>his has nothing to do with what you're spamming though
Is Japan mentioned a single time in MGS3? No.

What county does the game state was the major super of Asia in both WW1 and 2 that was invading all of Asia?

China
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>>720247701
Im out of the loop. Are zoomer troons bitching about MGS2 (a game they have never played) because they think Kojima is racist because Raiden is a lilly white twink instead of a black?
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>>720256459
Yeah, because MGS3 is about the cold war.
WW2's big point of relevancy is how it ties into the cold war. Japan is never brought up because they're irrelevant.
Please post the moments where they say China did Pearl Harbor, since, you know, you can't.
>What county does the game state was the major super of Asia in both WW1 and 2 that was invading all of Asia?
This is never stated at all throughout the entire game. If you type in "MGS3 script", you will get the entire game's script instantly. And you can look for yourself.
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Is there any way to pirate the master collection and actually get controller to work? Pretty much everything I tried is only usable with mkb
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>giga retards arguing about shit not in the game
One faggot said bullshit that ISN'T in the game and CANNOT PROVIDE DIRECT EVIDENCE to back his own claim, and the thread completely derails.
Absolute state of this fucking board.
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>>720248250
Liberian is his zodiac sign, dumbass
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>>720256894
>Yeah, because MGS3 is about the cold war.
WW1 and 2, you fucking retard. The game explicitly states China was the major Asian super power DURING WORLD WAR ONE AND TWO


NOT FUCKING JAPAN, WHICH IS COMPLETELY ABSENT FROM THE FUCKING GAME
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>>720258278
>WW1 and 2, you fucking retard
It's about the Cold War. Because it's set in 1964.
>The game explicitly states China was the major Asian super power DURING WORLD WAR ONE AND TWO
It does not actually. It states that America, China, and Russia gathered to form the Wiseman's Committee, yeah. But that's not saying what you're saying at all.
Please point to where the game directly ascribes blame to China for actions Japan committed in WW2.
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>>720255171
>this makes rose go HUMINA HUMINA HUMINA AWOOGA I GOTTA ASK IF HE REMEMBERS WHAT DAY TOMORROW IS
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>>720257548
guess it must be an outdated version because mine works just fine in MGS2
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>>720258418
This fucking retard is being obtuse on purpose, lmao. China is very deliberately stated to have have been beating the shit out of everyone else when the game explains the history of its in universe WW and 2 lesson
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>>720255305
Japanese and korean women all like effiminate men because theyre all hopped u[ on birthcontrol tricking their bodies into thinking theyre already pregnant.
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>>720258615
>China is very deliberately stated to have have been beating the shit out of everyone else when the game explains the history of its in universe WW and 2 lesson
Please post a line from the game stating that.
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>>720254175
that and too much of Raiden's character being colored by Rose's incessant nagging, which isn't really the character's fault
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>>720247701
He doesn't like books, he was raised in a simulation.
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>>720255717
>>720255609
>>720255273
>>720253880
You either didn't play Mgs3 or you were browsing tiktok during all the cutscenes
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>>720258949
Post the line.
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>>720258615
When does this happen at all
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>faggot thinks insulting others proves his point
Providing proof too difficult for you, retard?
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>>720255171
Why draw a clearly muscular beefy dude in such a feminine way, just confuses the dick, either he's a trap or he isn't those are the rules
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>>720252747
The ending was just dumb really but everyrhing else was great
>filename
More like Jagged Alliance desu
MGS doesn't tap into the soldier of fortune hijinks that it has, instead just relegating them to gimmicky bosses. PW's Outer Ops is the closest there is to it, but it's an auto-battler and the whole thing is made tedious than exciting.
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>>720260280
Get twunkpilled, chud
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>>720260130
When you progress to the point where the history of WW1 and 2 is explained
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Reminder that Naomi is a jeer who scammed Snake and Co. from 1 to 4
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>>720260832
Post a link of this, like what do you mean by beating the shit out of everyone else. Same with the Peal Harbor shit, post this
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>>720255683
Didn’t MGS3 shoehorned Snake having Japanese ancestry as well?
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>>720261004
Naomi was hot in 4, Snake should've given her a taste of his Old Snake
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>>720247701
This is what a mixed race Vietnamese looks like.
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>>720261209
No, that was for Solid Snake. In the previous games he's mentioned as having blood from the East, because the donor egg for the clones was Paramedic's Japanese assistant.
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>>720260280
Get new material
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>>720261319
I thought he was also a White African child soldier, from Mozambique
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Raiden works at a library?
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>>720255683
I don't normally butt into arguments but I am in awe at your stupidity. The Philosophers/Patriots began as an offshoot of the ALLIED POWERS. The US, the USSR, and China. The three superpowers of the Cold War. Is China being treated as a major world power pre-CCP anachronistic and unrealistic? Yeah, but it's fucking historical fantasy, who cares? Maybe the 1910s-era Russo-American Philosophers wanted to get a foothold in Asia, and they decided that China was the best option, so they networked with them. I mean, who else were they gonna pick? Russia fucking hated Japan on account of the Russo-Japanese War, and the Boxer Rebellion was a very relevant incident to the Western powers. To draw the conclusion that Kojima is literally replacing the Empire of Japan and its crimes with China is the most insane schizo bullshit I've ever heard. He simply wanted to add an Illuminati element to the Cold War
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>>720255175
There are three control boxes in the engine room. It's just those three you need to shoot. They're connected to three different laser tripwires and I believe one of them can only be shot from you being partially into the hallway, so shoot the ones you can see first, then inch forward and look around in first person view for the other.
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>>720261454
When WW1 and 2 are mentioned in the game, China, as in China during WW1... China during WW2, is stated as being the major super power of Asia.

Japan isn't mentioned once in the game.

There is no use in trying to refute this, this is merely what is stated in the game itself : /
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>>720261742
Post the lines
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>>720252747
>S2
What the fucking goddamned shit was that?
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>>720261454
Japanese history and what it did during WW2 is illegal to discuss in Japan. That's why kojima changed the history of WW1 and 2;for the game. That's all that is being said here. Loosen up.
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>>720254175
I always hated this. Its been a while since I played 2/4 so I don't remember if it was explained in more detail but I didn't hate MGS 2 Raiden. Going from that character to 4 edgy cyborg ninja Raiden was like whiplash, it may as well have been an entirely different character.

He kinda pulls it off in Rising but still gets totally overshadowed by Sam.
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>>720261426
Kojima thought it was necessary to make a whole game to explain how Big Boss survived Outer Heaven's explosion (even though he still survives immolation later) but he was perfectly fine with Frank Jaeger man of a thousand backstories.
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>>720261934
Japan simply isn't relevant to the lore and worldbuilding of Metal Gear, because its geopolitics are based around the Cold War
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>>720261934
Not true, but the whole plot of information control and censorship in MGS2 was inspired by attempts to censor Japanese history in World War 2. Which Kojima opposed, it's why one of the last lines in 2 is Snake saying to let people "read our messy and sad history"
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>>720262058
>Japan simply isn't relevant to the lore

You mean when WW2 is brought and what country is the one invading everyone else? Because in my game China is the one invading everyone. You'd think they would have said Japan....
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>>720262205
Cite me the specific line of dialogue where a character says that China invaded anyone in WW2
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>>720262205
Please post a link or clip of your game saying that
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>Japan simply isn't relevant to the lore

How is anyone supposed to believe China ruled all of eastern Asia in the game time line?
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>>720262320
This is why anyone with an above temperature IQ doesn't take MGS3 seriously, the story is retarded
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>>720261934
illegal? no. but most japs are ignorant of their actions in WW2, that's true.
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>>720258949
Is this some kind of bit were you pretend something that never happened actually did? If so it's retarded and you should be ashamed of yourself for thinking that it's funny.
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>>720262007
I just assumed he had a fetish for White Africans, like he does for Off Shore oil platforms and shitting yourself.
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>>720262007
>Kojima thought it was necessary to make a whole game to explain how Big Boss survived Outer Heaven's explosion
You don't believe this. It's just shoved into MGSV's credits timeline as a convenient place to keep MGSV somewhat self-contained.
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>>720262007
its funnier when you remember that MG1 has a post credits scene where big boss swears vengeance
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>>720261934
>>720262205
Post the line.
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>>720252074
Retard alert perhaps?
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>>720257548
There is some kind of an .ini file does the trick but I'm not home to upload it. I tried googling but can't find the plebbit thread where I found it. It was in Spanish too, which doesn't help. I think I found it off of a comment on a YouTube video but not sure.
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>>720255578
That's a plot with some hair on it



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