Are we entering a new golden age?
I just shart myself
it's quite hard to call it gmod 2, people won't understand it.technically it will most likely eclipse it in time, since it's a continuation of what gmod has become - just a game engine.
>>720248784How autistic do you have to be to actually enjoy Gmod? I'm asking because I've always been very autistic but Gmod never tickled my fancy. I like things like Minecraft and the Sims so I should like this but I could never get into it like that.
>>720249049you make your own fun, really. addons and maps, exploring and shooting shit with weird weapons, or join a server and play with their game
>>720248784>cutesy reddit nameMillennial writing...
>>720249046not if no one adopts it, which is how things are currently lookingthe only reason to use this over a real game engine is the built-in multiplayer
>>720249302it's not even out yet, of course it's sparse.no extra licensing costs, hotloading, better editor experience than most
s&box is a huge failure. Nobody plays it, It will never be as fleshed out as roblox.Even simple design changes like the STUPID fucking sausage people told garry to change for YEARS he still wont remove them. He cant simply model a simple male and female default replicate of citizen male 07 from half life 2.Its buggy, It doesnt run that well, It has no good mods. Its garbage. GMOD will unironically live past 40 years of nostalgia before we get another good sandbox game.
>>720249607it's had a human model for over a year now
>>720249718The sausage people need to be removed. Garry has gone senile.
>>720250000removed why? there's a choiceroblox is really popular even with their really offputting model
He should just stick to making rust more RPG and quest PVE based instead of PVP
>>720250082Roblox have no fucking choice, you can have normal models but it be going through the hoops and no one doing that shit.This display itself as a realistic alternative, literally built on the success of its predecessor so you'd assume it be just that but better. But no, gotta add those ugly looking freaks as your MAIN MASCOT mind you, refusing to delete than even after everyone told you that it's is literally make or brake situation.Either Gary is absolute retard and being a manchild because "boo ho I made them and I want them", or situation is a little deeper considering realistic models are too generic which is plain and boring. The gmod and halflife models were also generic but they had a rich history behind them and so people recognize them, also the source jank. Here the normal models are actually normal, standardized UE5 slop looking, so in that sense you can't have any identity unless its slop so maybe that's why hes being so stubborn with these freak creations..
>>720248784unless roblox really really fucks up, this will go the way of Dreams (Mm)
Roblox is literally getting banned off the app store next year. EoS will follow shortly.
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>>720251093sure future man
>>720248784nah it will be a high specs roblox rather, for both good and ill, and considering it went thru like two or three development hell periods because garry can keep an idea straight for his life, unless the grooming cases finally consumes roblox it will end up like that one playstation game where you could do fuckall, forgot the name
>>720251608dreamsI had it and it was a tremendous letdown
>>720248784there's no real reason to using this vs something like Godot. Some of the problems I've had with s&box (note this was like a year ago my memory isn't the best):>everything C#, no scripts = slow to iterate>documentation is basically zero outside of basic examples>setting up custom shaders is a pain in the ass>custom effects in general are a pain in the assFor any decent project shaders and graphics in general are maybe 50-70% of what you do. C# is ok but when you want to write say small scripts it's not exactly the ideal language, I don't want to mess around with getting editable components working in the editor for every tiny thing I want to change and it's not a good time-value tradeoff.
>>720251608>>720251009
>>720251958>C# is ok but when you want to write say small scriptsbrain fart, I meant the opposite, C# is great for large technical projects but not for small game scripts that you want to change and iterate on.
>>720251958godot for 3d sucks balls, c# is fast as hell
>>720251848why did they think making a full game maker for an console audience was a good idea
>>720248784no, because what userbase would exist for this is already more invested in roblox (or gmod) and he decided to use fanboy and chumchum as the model for his characters for some godforsaken reasonwhy those models still exist i seriously have no idea, surely he isn't deaf to literally every person who has ever seen them going "that looks like shit"
>>720248784What's taking so long for them to release it properly anyway? Are they waiting for HL3 or something?
>>720252248i don't use them for my game, you don't have to either. just use the human models
>>720252317engine improvements, api additions, stability, performance, etc. they're basically rewriting everything that's shit
>>720248784>still in dev after a decadethe fuck i hate how protracted and dragged out this shit is
>>720248784why would someone play this over roblox? is being able to say fuck that valuable?
>>720252094Maybe I'm just not that familiar with C# then, but that hasn't been my experience.my point about graphics programming in s&box still applies, my project was barebones but I had to spend hours trudging through discord messages about what has changed/been removed etc. since the documentation was written. All just to get a background parallax space shader to work. Again this was like a year ago
>>720252523a lot has changed in a year, it's getting updates every day. docs have grown a lot
>>720252553hmmm. I might check it out again when I have time... if Garry has not revoked my beta key for disloyalty.
>>720252764no worries, it's been open for everyone on the site for over a year now, no keys needed
>>720252248ive read garrys explanation of the sausage people choice and its just kinda bizarre, calls normal healthy looking characters the hipster choice while making emphasis of the uglyness of 80s-90s british average joes to be more "unique and real", even tho the way he represents that doesnt look at all like that, but rather forcefully ugly for the sake of being so>https://garry.net/posts/mailbag-sausage-men
>>720252968it's cope, he can't admit they were a mistake without pissing off his girlfriend who designed them in the first place
>>720251958>there's no real reason to using this vs something like Godot.Online multiplayer. Literally the reason you would use s&box is that you're wanting to make something online with multiplayer and want to avoid the absolute hell that comes with using an engine that doesn't have that as its main priority. The entire primary goal of s&box was it was made with online multiplayer in mind and everything is built around trying to make the process of doing online multiplayer as painless as possible.Now, if you point out that s&box's netcode might be somewhat questionable or that a multiplayer focused platform would be limited by very few people actually using it. Yeah you'll then be pointing out the real problems with this thing.
>>720253079>his girlfriend who designed them in the first placeand now it all makes sense, the yoko onos of the world have done untold damage to every single industry
>>720253103netcode has gotten a lot better recently, but it absolutely has the problem of not being able to test 64+ players at once because it's very rare that enough players are on and willing to test
>>720253079that explains everything lol
>>720253236How's host migration? Is that a built in feature or not? When testing it in the editor it doesn't seem to work.
>>720253420yeah, but you really have to build your game for it. editor uses its own networking for the local instance so you can't test it there
>>720253103Godot's multiplayer support is rudimentary but it is there, technically. As in there have been released 3d games with lobbies and everything else included.It support remote procedure calls and channels.
>>720250082Roblox’s classic avatars are fucking timeless. No way you are comparing them to S&Box’s disgusting Rick & Morty-esque sausage people.
>>720248784did I miss domething
>>720253691it looks disgusting yeah, arms are too wide, no joints, looks awful
>>720253725the S key
garry newman thinks characters that look like this is the funniest shit in existence
>>720253759garry have you ever considered that maybe the reason sbox will literally never take off is that you're a retarded ugly narcissist nigger that can never admit that he's wrong even when the thing he's criticizing has a $90B market valuation thus making any perceived changes to your product disingenuous at best and spiteful at worst
>>720248784its dogshit
>>720255091great, comparing a 20+ year old engine to a modern oneit does have performance issues though, but if you're getting sub 20 you might want to upgrade your 960
>>720249607the sweeping declarations and insisting something that's far from release as a "failure" is so on par for /v/ discussion.
>>720253691nta but i think it looks horrible too
>>720255191the 20+ year old engine is far superior than S&box, yes
>>720255091>DA GAEM FRUM 20 YEARS AGO RUNS BETUR DAN DAA NEW OONNNEE THAS NOT EVUN FINUSHED!?!?!?!
>>720255279no shaders, way more engine limits, lua, authoring assets is shit
>this will in no way be gmod at all!>it's pretty much just new gmod and nothing makes it "not" gmod >no explanation about how exactly it's not suppose to be gmod, just "a trivial amount of things are slightly different"
I think garry mod should kill himself
>>720255509an engine that's nicer to work with, being able to export games, built in play fund so you get paid for games you make, modern features and graphics
>>720255331yeah they just forgot to turn the knob that increases fps back to 1000+, theyll do it before release
>>720255593no modern game runs at 1000 fps with any kind of environment loaded
>>720255509gmod but with 20 fps instead of 1000>>720255342yeah because having 20 fps is in no way limiting
>>720255670if you have a 15 year old computer just stick to gmod, no harm done. gmod will go nowhere
>>720255736if s&box was remotely well made, it would have MORE fps on the same computer playing gmod. you are just retarded
>>720255736just like s&box! (with more fps)
>>720255867more fps than your 30 yes, but not 1000. modern games just don't go that high with a full pbr render pipeline
>>720255909buy a 5090 so you can play s&box at a whopping 60 fps in empty gm_flatgrass singleplayer
>>720255959s&box looks worse visually than gmod too as shown here >>720255091, but interesting cope nevertheless Mr. Gayry
>>720256059if you took a proper screenshot without mspaint scaling it would look quite good, it's way more detailed than gmod (except the unfinished physgun model)
>>720256159feel free to provide your own screenshots
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garry is pozzed and worships trannys, you will never have "freedom" to make the games you want. your game has to be what garry wants, nothing less and nothing more.
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>>720253621>editor uses its own networking for the local instance so you can't test it thereWell that's annoying.Really wish Garry had just had it so hosting works like it does in Roblox, just with far better netcode. Really "it's roblox but the netcode isn't shit" would have been an amazing sell.
>>720256516i have no idea how roblox does it, do they use dedicated servers?
>>720248784>still no replacement for simfphys/lvs vehicle bases
>only getting 1200fps on flatgrassis it time to get a new pc?
>>720256570make sure to use frame generation so you can go from 1000 fps to 3000
>>720256415wow that looks like dogshit
>>720256823better than the flat plane of the other screenshotbut i know you're just here to bait
>>720256906no it actually did look like dogshit with the ugly lighting and vignette effect but i know you're just here to shill
>>720248784It's never gonna be as big as Gmod. Maybe if this elusive Half-Life 3 leakers keep talking about ever comes out, Gary could adapt the Half-Life style again. He would then have to add CS2 as a mod and it'll be a proper Gmod 2.
>>720248784I always read it as "setbox"
>>720257047someone could already write a cs2 mounter
>>720257095true but who would want to?
>>720257161so you can play cs2 at 20 fps
>>720257161anyone that wants cs2 content i presume?there's already a natural selection 2 and quake mounter bundled in the engine, people are working on gmod/hl2 mounters
>>720257273wow i cant wait to play gmod at 20 fps in s&box, revolutionary stuff
>>720256551From what I gather Roblox hosts the servers for you so you don't have to worry about doing it yourself. The catch is the quality of the netcode is really bad which is why Roblox is mainly suited for games where netcode quality doesn't matter so much.
>>720257335you're already set, you have gmod for your old pc
>>720257487roblox is suited for pedophiles
>>720257839which is why alternatives are good
The best UGC games are those where some assets are already done for you. GMod with its Valve piggybacking, LittleBigPlanet with its singleplayer campaigns, Roblox with its avatars and movement template. If you want a blank sandbox where your mind can go nuts, just download an engine and make your game.
>>720249195>BasedBooru.com - 39359 - closed_mouth frog glasses hand holding_object pepe basedjak stubble variant_sobot.
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>>720259449I think Facepunch will piggyback on Valve again for it. Supposedly they're gearing up for Half-Life 3 finally and maybe most if not all the assets can be exported to S&Box later on.
>>720255191>a modern onesource 2 is literally just source 1, nigger
>>720256415explain it to me slowly. why do you think this should run at 30 fps on a machine that can run garrysmod at 1000fps when it only looks marginally better at best?
>>720255581>nice to work with>UE slopLOL
>>720249195go back to your kiwifarms ripoff spam bot and pedophile ridden discord circlejerk website you stupid fucking wojackspamming onions party immigrant
>>720262163>marginallyFeel free to say it looks bad because of the lighting being washed out but that model is a blatant leap in quality over what source 1 could do.At this point you might as well be levelling your complaints at valve, because after what's basically been two decades you apparently think they've only managed a graphical improvement that's "marginally" better.
Gmod had its golden era thanks to big community content channels like Machinima and the magic of technical limitation of animation. Ever since SFM came people began to lose interests in phys-dragging ragdoll animation or stop motion animation and that led to the decline in GMOD videos.I doubt S&Box will be as big as GMOD.
>>720256415i can run alyx(same engine as s&box) in vr(thats 2 renders per frame) max settings 90fps, why does this piece of shit run so trash with 1/100th of the geometry?
>>720262689interesting that you still have not given me the only thing I asked for. how is that model quality worth a 330% decrease in performance? and yes, it is marginal>At this point you might as well be levelling your complaints at valveno, garry chose to use a shitty experimental engine branch that was only ever intended for vr and then made it run like absolute dogshit
>>720263197>interesting that you still have notI wasn't the anon you were talking to.>how is that model quality worth a 330% decrease in performance?It's not. >>720263085 worded the complaint in a far better way than asking why a mod for a two decade old game runs far better than something using modern graphics while trying to pretend two decades makes for a "marginal" improvement.
>>720248784itll be>moderated>woke>have a cash shop and DLCs>have less freedom than beforeand the big one>zoomers/alphies wont care cuz they already have Roblox
>>720248784I believe it will take time to get there, but if the developers keep working it on then it will turn in to a proper successor. Numan shot himself in the foot by not making it mainly a half-life, counter-strike, valve game themed on the other hand. He should have just settled on giving Valve royalties by using their assets and models. And the game modes should be front and centre above the Roblox aspect. What we generally want is unique game modes that played like GoldSRC modding communities of Half-Life. That's the real secret to success and something they should focus on above being some kind of Roblox instead, creating a Roblox is not the same as having some modified version of half-life or CS in which completely different gameplay mechanics changes how it plays. We would want modifications of existing valve games that are creative. So maybe even use counterstrike 2 or even half life Alyx as base if you have to. But Numan would make a big fuss about having to pay valve for every time he profited again.
>>720264786yeah it will be this>someone says nigger in your game>its posted on Garry's trooncord>you are told by some troon or garry personally that you must ban the ppl who said nigger or else your game is delisted and blacklisted, plus ur banned
